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legsdiamond
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"Hi Hader"


          

https://thebiglead.com/2018/07/18/josh-hader-twitter-racist-homophobic/

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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Anne Arundel county hillbilly
Jul 18th 2018
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Yeah can't get more Maryland hillbilly than that.
Jul 18th 2018
4
      damn i figured that was a rich area
Jul 18th 2018
5
           It mostly is, and even when it's not...
Jul 18th 2018
6
                Apt description.
Jul 18th 2018
7
                     We need a word for an intentional hillbilly
Jul 18th 2018
8
                          Country black folk here
Jul 30th 2018
10
its always weird to me that that stuff doesn't come up earlier
Jul 18th 2018
2
he'll be fine once hes traded to Boston
Jul 18th 2018
3
another guy who made insensitive tweets...
Jul 29th 2018
9
Trea Turner Too
Jul 31st 2018
11
      IDK, they have a point...
Jul 31st 2018
12
      facebook was the wild wild west for us back in HS
Jul 31st 2018
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I am eternally grateful social media wasn't around when I was in school
Jul 31st 2018
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Beezo
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1. "Anne Arundel county hillbilly "
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B.J.S.301
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Wed Jul-18-18 10:19 AM

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4. "Yeah can't get more Maryland hillbilly than that. "
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BrooklynWHAT
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Wed Jul-18-18 10:29 AM

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5. "damn i figured that was a rich area"
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we do some work for the HS and they spend big bucks.

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Walleye
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Wed Jul-18-18 10:34 AM

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6. "It mostly is, and even when it's not..."
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Wed Jul-18-18 10:36 AM by Walleye

          

... you can absolutely be more hillbilly in Maryland than in Anne Arundel county. In a tiny state, there are probably ten other counties where the term would be more apt. Pretty much the entire Eastern shore, plus the two or three in western Maryland, at least.

edit: if the above two posters are from Baltimore, that would explain a great deal. It's where greater Baltimore keeps a bunch of its more horrifying white residents.

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B.J.S.301
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7. "Apt description. "
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They do have money but act very much like they don't. Anne arundel and Howard County white folks suck the life outta you.

  

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Walleye
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8. "We need a word for an intentional hillbilly"
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Wed Jul-18-18 10:54 AM by Walleye

          

I grew up in Maryland, so I'd have agreed with your initial post ... until I moved to Tennessee for awhile. That's not quite the same thing as, say, people who have spent so much time cosplaying as rednecks that they actually became them. The ideal of a family in Anne Arundel county is a dad with strong opinions about his riding lawn mower who buys his son a Ford F-150 for graduation - which his son promptly decorates with a Gadsden Flag decal on the rear window. Or, if he's particularly edgy, a confederate flag.

Sort of like how every popular country song is just an elaborate secret handshake about to achieve white exurban authenticity.

Most (maybe not so much in Western Maryland) of the actually country parts of Maryland are distinguishable because they have actual country black people. Southern Maryland and the less touristy parts of the Eastern Shore, in particular.

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The Real
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10. "Country black folk here"
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I was the director of PR, Marketing and Community engagement for Washington County. You hit the county breakdown on the head.

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rob
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2. "its always weird to me that that stuff doesn't come up earlier"
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i'd have assumed ludnow would know about that shit and tell him to clean it up, or teams would do that as part of their diligence on a draft/trade.

  

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houston_hardhead
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Wed Jul-18-18 09:50 AM

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3. "he'll be fine once hes traded to Boston"
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So i'm smokin on this cactus, bangin Fat Patrick
hustla til i die baby grindin like a savage
pimp game sweet, breakin ankles and feet
cuz these hoes break they toes til they job complete

H-Town made L.A. paid

  

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Dstl1
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9. "another guy who made insensitive tweets..."
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when he was "young and stupid". But, hey...he's grown so much, guys.
Love how the tweets always get aired as the guy is in the midst of doing something good on the field.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/24229334/sean-newcomb-atlanta-braves-regrets-offensive-tweets

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11. "Trea Turner Too"
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Honestly, I'm probably more pissed at the plea coppage from some of the fans and sports media...most of them saying the same "we all did stupid stuff at that age" bs

Sigh

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/nationals/2018/07/29/nationals-trea-turner-racist-homophobic-tweets/861555002/

Washington Nationals shortstop Trea Turner is the next in what's becoming a long line of athletes answering for inappropriate social media posts that are coming to light years after they were shared.

In Turner's case, tweets from 2011 and 2012 that were racist, used homophobic slurs and insensitivity toward the developmentally disabled were unearthed just a few hours after Atlanta Braves left-handed pitcher Sean Newcomb watched the same storyline unfold.

In a statement released by the Nationals on Sunday night, Turner said he was "sincerely sorry" for the tweets.

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Turner, now 25, was 18 at the time of the tweets. A native of Florida, he attended North Carolina State before being drafted in the first round by the San Diego Padres in 2014.


Turner has not addressed the tweets, but Nationals general manger Mike Rizzo released a statement saying that Turner apologized to him and the organization, and that "he understands the comments - regardless of when they were posted - are inexcusable."

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Turner is the third major league player to come under scrutiny for offensive remarks on social media in the past two weeks.

First came the Milwaukee Brewers' Josh Hader, who wasn't a household name until he gave up a home run in his first All-Star Game followed a little while later by an impromptu chat in front of the media - not to discuss his disastrous outing on the field, but to apologize for something he did off the field years ago.

Newcomb, whose tweets containing homophobic and racial slurs from 2011 and 2012 came to light as he missed a no-hitter by one strike, issued an apology after Sunday's game, saying "This is something that obviously can’t be happening. I feel bad about it. I don’t mean to offend anybody. I definitely regret it."


Both those players saw old tweets emerge after significant events on the field in front of national TV audiences.

That's where Turner is in a bit different circumstance. He is a bigger name in the sport - a shortstop for a team in the playoff hunt, and a candidate promoted by Major League Baseball for the "final vote" contest for the last All-Star Game roster slot for the National League. He was on the field Sunday in the Nationals' 5-0 loss to the Miami Marlins, but there was no precipitating on-field event that cast his name in the spotlight.

MLB did not suspend Hader, but it is requiring him to complete sensitivity training and participate in the league's diversity and inclusion initiatives. It is expected Newcomb's case will be handled similarly

  

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Nodima
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Tue Jul-31-18 09:20 AM

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12. "IDK, they have a point..."
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Tue Jul-31-18 09:21 AM by Nodima

  

          

I mean, in Turner's case specifically, he's making clear references to the "know how I know you're gay" scene from 40 Year Old Virgin and apparently directly quoting Terry Crews from White Chicks with the wheelchair line. If I were 17 and had a Twitter I'd probably be quoting offensive lines from my favorite comedies as well.


And I think it's also kind of silly to be expecting teenaged baseball players to be identity or race sensitive. We all know what the culture of baseball is, especially at the youth level. The best players especially are predominantly southern-born, throwing the ball around with their other white friends all day and crushing pussy all night dudes. You wish they were better people but you know they're likely not.


Personally I can't fully describe how useful (and painful) the On This Day / Memories feature on Facebook is for me in finding all the jokes I wish I hadn't made on social media regarding drugs, women and rap music when I was 16, and I wasn't a great athlete, just a guy with a crush on my next door neighbor who only ever hung out with his same five friends from middle school and never went to parties. I can only imagine the stuff I would've tried out on social media if I felt like I had an audience.



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BrooklynWHAT
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13. "facebook was the wild wild west for us back in HS"
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lord knows if i had twitter back then. just the stuff from when i was in college was wild enough.
just lots of cringeworthy regrettable stuff. so i see why folks are copping pleas over it.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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Beamer6178
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Tue Jul-31-18 09:55 AM

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14. "I am eternally grateful social media wasn't around when I was in school"
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Tue Jul-31-18 09:58 AM by Beamer6178

  

          

And even my craziest days were fairly pedestrian.....
I didn't even get a cell phone till 2000, my first year in law school, and didn't start text messaging until 2003-2004 I think, by which time, I was dating my wife and missed all THAT shit.

I have verbally uttered some of the most vitrolic, offensive, and insensitive things in the company of friends without ever intending or hoping for those things to manifest.

However, as a ubiquitous member of the community and active in PTAs on different levels and possibly a future school board member, I'm glad to not have to explain that shit.

Like even my worst Facebook stuff is when the storm knocked off my TV during the NBA finals one year and I wrote a bunch of curse words. Nothing lewd, even though at times I may comment on other's posts with subtle humor of the adult variety, but still little to no cursing. I had kind of already peeped the importance of watching one's online profile, but not being in the dating game when social media and handheld devices paired up definitely avoided me some headaches.

These revelations are definitely NOT A GOOD LOOK for them, but unless their present day actions align with their words, I don't think they need to be crucified.

If it hasn't been done so already, social media best practices need to be incorporated into professional athlete orientation programs.

#deletedeletedelete

  

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