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"OKPW: Extreme Rules to Summerslam"


  

          

Now that these aren't every 2 weeks they kinda sneak up on us, huh?

https://tinyurl.com/OKPXR

As always:

-The "titleholder rule" is in effect and is listed below the names

-The picks lock at the first eligible match.

-"First match" refers to the main card, not the preshow. Preshow matches ARE eligible for "shortest match" however. So far they haven't announced which matches are on the preshow.

Let me know if you have any questions.

  

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Couldn't be less excited to be going to this show
Jul 11th 2018
1
I hope everyone goes to the bathroom during Roman/Lashley
Jul 11th 2018
2
      I hope they're smart enough to not put it on last
Jul 12th 2018
11
I just don't care about a single champ besides AJ
Jul 11th 2018
3
That's where I am
Jul 11th 2018
4
Kaitlyn is coming BACK for the Mae.
Jul 11th 2018
5
same, I remember that AJ/Kaitlyn feud being really good n/m
Jul 11th 2018
6
oh boy i like me some kaitlyn
Jul 12th 2018
9
Looks like they're dusting off the shark cage again
Jul 11th 2018
7
NXT continues to show up the main roster tag division
Jul 12th 2018
8
my guess is they're waiting on Sasha/Bayley for Brooklyn
Jul 12th 2018
10
G1 Climax Tournament to have all English commentary
Jul 12th 2018
12
kinda feel the same way
Jul 12th 2018
13
      Comes down to who would co-headline WK
Jul 12th 2018
14
           Tough to tell how they view Ibushi
Jul 12th 2018
15
ROH and NJPW G1 Supercard is on for Mania weekend
Jul 13th 2018
16
I'm road tripping out west right now so I have no idea whats going on
Jul 13th 2018
17
i include stips on the excel sheet now but i'll list them here:
Jul 13th 2018
18
Hogan reinstated
Jul 15th 2018
19
I'd be mad about it if I didn't see it coming
Jul 16th 2018
25
What a stupid fucking finish...
Jul 15th 2018
20
Yep. There's no need to Dusty a finish that already benefits the heel
Jul 16th 2018
22
G1 Night 2 - wow!
Jul 15th 2018
21
This is how you do a press conference
Jul 16th 2018
23
LOL.
Jul 16th 2018
24
Vince really about to force feed us more Roman. Get this nigga out
Jul 16th 2018
26
In the old days it would be time to let him go to WCW for a couple years...
Jul 16th 2018
27
      yep. in lieu of that he needs to work his way back up
Jul 16th 2018
29
the way they're fumbling Sasha left and right is hilarious
Jul 16th 2018
28
Real question: has the show ever been this consistently shitty?
Jul 16th 2018
30
This is the worst it's been in my life. Flat out. I feel bad for the tal...
Jul 16th 2018
33
hol up so we gotta run back Reigns and Lashley again...
Jul 16th 2018
31
This shit don't make no sense
Jul 16th 2018
32
the people demand it! n/m
Jul 17th 2018
34
We knew it was a main event match
Jul 17th 2018
35
      Rumor is the IC match was supposed to be first
Jul 17th 2018
36
It's beyond ridiculous at this point
Jul 17th 2018
37
I almost like this Orton thing going on
Jul 17th 2018
38
As much as the RKO pops the crowd, Randy is a GREAT heel when he's focus...
Jul 18th 2018
39
Women's Tag Belts and an all women PPV incoming. Thoughts?
Jul 21st 2018
40
In a bubble, it's a great idea
Jul 21st 2018
41
They need to unify the singles belts and have them defended across brand...
Jul 21st 2018
42
      Or turn one into a Women's IC belt.
Jul 23rd 2018
43
Impact Slammiversary was really good
Jul 23rd 2018
44
"We invented women's wrestling even tho it existed already." - WWE
Jul 23rd 2018
45
Look at the hurdles* they've overcome
Jul 23rd 2018
46
What a shocker...Lesnar/Reigns @ SummerSlam
Jul 24th 2018
47
RE: What a shocker...Lesnar/Reigns @ SummerSlam
Jul 24th 2018
48
At this point Lashley should just beat him down next week
Jul 24th 2018
49
and they STILL think this is a "Roman overcomes the odds" story
Jul 24th 2018
50
      I think he might actually turn heel
Jul 24th 2018
54
man this is fucking dumb.
Jul 24th 2018
51
They've also ruined Elias. he's just a gag act now
Jul 24th 2018
52
from the minute he caught on, there was a strategy behind Cena
Jul 24th 2018
53
Anyone see that Randy Orton promo?
Jul 25th 2018
55
"I've had enough of you people" is a solid promo formula
Jul 25th 2018
56
Yup. There are times it doesn't come off as believable.
Jul 25th 2018
63
I don't get it
Jul 25th 2018
57
yeah that was a headscratcher
Jul 25th 2018
59
      I shouldn't complain because it gives them something to do
Jul 25th 2018
60
           I think this just ties back to recent programming
Jul 25th 2018
64
It was a very solid promo
Jul 25th 2018
58
      he has been saying for the last year at least he wanted to turn heel
Jul 25th 2018
61
      The vitriol he spews when he simply says "Bingo Halls"
Jul 25th 2018
62
Soooo.... anybody catch NXT?
Jul 26th 2018
65
Not digging that the buzzword in promo class was "repetition" this week
Jul 27th 2018
66
      I liked Ricochet's promos during the Dream feud, but in general I'm not ...
Jul 29th 2018
67
           Cole's also giving me pre-"Mr. Wrestlemania" HBK vibes right now.
Jul 31st 2018
70
R.I.P. Brian Christopher (Lawler) and Nikolai Volkoff
Jul 29th 2018
68
so we get Elias vs Lashley aka the Fumbled Wave Feud
Jul 30th 2018
69
watched Miz and Maryse last night since i was too lazy to change
Jul 31st 2018
71
Didn't even want to bother with it
Jul 31st 2018
72
      Miz' dad is really funny too.
Aug 01st 2018
76
In the name of all that is right and holy....
Jul 31st 2018
73
I definitely think it's Joseph's time...
Aug 01st 2018
75
      It was his time at Balls last year.
Aug 01st 2018
77
           I remember the build for their program being great...
Aug 01st 2018
           I remember the build for their program being great...
Aug 01st 2018
80
it's gotta be real smoke between the Miz and Bryan (Cena too)
Jul 31st 2018
74
Those are the guys he can open up on
Aug 01st 2018
78
      Miz made it because of how big of a wrestling fan he was
Aug 01st 2018
79
So… EC3’s gonna be the next wellness suspension, yeah?
Aug 01st 2018
81
I am thoroughly enjoying this Ciampa promo too.
Aug 01st 2018
82
      RE: I am thoroughly enjoying this Ciampa promo too.
Aug 06th 2018
86
G1 Climax Night 14 = HO-LEE-SHIT!!
Aug 04th 2018
83
Video
Aug 06th 2018
84
Watching now.
Aug 06th 2018
85
      It's all about who is going to main event WK
Aug 07th 2018
87
This All In card is . . . kinda wack
Aug 07th 2018
88
Shit... can we get Omega vs. Pentagon?
Aug 07th 2018
89
it's the right talent used in a bunch of wrong ways
Aug 07th 2018
90
If they do it right, they can remake the NWA title.
Aug 07th 2018
91
Gotta wonder what kind of politics play in to this kind of card
Aug 08th 2018
92
Anyone going to WM weekend next year?
Aug 08th 2018
93
I think I'm personally done with Manias for a while
Aug 08th 2018
94
      I wasn't even going for that lol
Aug 08th 2018
95
           probably the best play
Aug 08th 2018
96
I think they're going to turn Roman Reigns heel
Aug 08th 2018
97
Hmm I don't really see it...
Aug 09th 2018
98
What you said made a lot of sense
Aug 09th 2018
99
That’s an even better idea
Aug 09th 2018
101
I wouldn't boo Roman for that at all though...
Aug 09th 2018
102
      Can you just walk away?
Aug 09th 2018
103
           I hear that but I couldn't boo the guy who went all out on Braun...
Aug 09th 2018
104
RE: I think they're going to turn Roman Reigns heel
Aug 09th 2018
100
I think the addition of the Uso's has to be "Roman Empire"
Aug 09th 2018
106
I thought that back around 'Mania time
Aug 11th 2018
107
You guys, Takeover's going to be so good
Aug 09th 2018
105
Video: Omega vs. Ibushi 2018
Aug 13th 2018
108
It's pretty amazing how many stories they can weave into the G1
Aug 13th 2018
109
      It really sets the stage for so many possibilities
Aug 13th 2018
110
Oh no! Jim Neidhart passed away.
Aug 13th 2018
111
Who?
Aug 13th 2018
112
      He really was!
Aug 13th 2018
113
      Eh. RIP and all but best? I don't see how he sits in the top tier.
Aug 13th 2018
114
           Always the dude to pour cold water on shit.
Aug 13th 2018
115
           Otherwise known as sense, reason, rationality, perspective, etc.
Aug 14th 2018
117
                ain't nobody showed up mad in this post but you, as usual
Aug 14th 2018
119
                     And, as usual, there's zero evidence to back up that assertion
Aug 14th 2018
124
                          Dog, it's an RIP thread that you showed up to "well actually" all over.
Aug 14th 2018
127
                               Psst..you brought up the quality of his career. Not me.
Aug 14th 2018
129
                                    That's a whole lot of assumptions you're making, chief.
Aug 15th 2018
131
                                         No, it's a lot of facts that, again, you don't have an actual basis to o...
Aug 15th 2018
132
                                              I'm not the one vomiting paragraphs here (so allow me to retort)
Aug 15th 2018
134
                                                   No vomit. Just facts.
Aug 15th 2018
136
                                                        Jesus Christ you're delusional.
Aug 15th 2018
137
                                                             I posted an opinion. You posted a snarky insult.
Aug 15th 2018
138
                                                                  Sure. I've created this mess.
Aug 15th 2018
139
                                                                       It's really not up for debate. Not sure why this is so hard for you to a...
Aug 15th 2018
140
                                                                            Wait, what did I do?
Aug 15th 2018
141
                                                                                 Wait, you can't read now?
Aug 15th 2018
142
                                                                                      Yeahhhhh, still not seeing it.
Aug 15th 2018
143
                                                                                      I know. As I said: talk about delusions
Aug 15th 2018
144
                                                                                      So this constant need to have the last word: addiction, compulsion
Aug 15th 2018
146
                                                                                      People who bring up "the last word" do so because they want the last wor...
Aug 15th 2018
147
                                                                                      CT’s argument style: “nuh uh, you.”
Aug 15th 2018
148
                                                                                      ^^proving my point. A back and forth requires two parties.
Aug 15th 2018
149
                                                                                      If you think I'm taking this seriously at all, go seek help.
Aug 16th 2018
150
                                                                                      I don't think you know what "rage" looks like.
Aug 16th 2018
151
                                                                                      https://www.fightersgeneration.com/np6/char/gifus/sagat-laughing2.gif
Aug 16th 2018
154
                                                                                      I'm sure someone will click on that.
Aug 16th 2018
155
           OK, fine. Hart Foundation and the Bulldogs are Citizen Kane
Aug 15th 2018
133
                Agreed
Aug 15th 2018
135
Ambrose came back looking like Haitch.
Aug 13th 2018
116
LMAO Dean came out like a Bushwacker
Aug 14th 2018
118
his new look is odd.
Aug 14th 2018
120
      Instead of looking like a guy playing crazy for tv
Aug 14th 2018
121
      old look sucks, new looks sucks, music sucks, matches suck
Aug 14th 2018
122
      He looked a little crisper out there
Aug 14th 2018
123
      I'm pretty sure this version of Dean has murdered somebody in a bar
Aug 14th 2018
126
      He looks like the walking manifestation of an angry Bill Burr rant
Aug 14th 2018
125
           lmfao
Aug 14th 2018
128
           Silver lining: he does look pretty ripped
Aug 15th 2018
145
                He does look like the son of Marduk from Tekken
Aug 16th 2018
156
                     Shoemaker called him Colin Quinn
Aug 18th 2018
159
SUMMERSLAM PREDICTIONS
Aug 14th 2018
130
2/3 of this weekend is going to be incredibly good
Aug 16th 2018
152
      Having Roman win only to be MiTB'd could possibly help him big time
Aug 16th 2018
153
           Yep. KO would be the good heel to chase
Aug 16th 2018
157
                I don't really want to see this, but...
Aug 18th 2018
158
                     RE: I don't really want to see this, but...
Aug 18th 2018
160
                          I actually think KO cashing in after Reigns wins makes the most sense
Aug 18th 2018
161
                               I think they felt like Braun needed a big win
Aug 18th 2018
162
Velveteen Dream vs EC3 is a great program
Aug 19th 2018
163
velveteen's coogi vest...
Aug 20th 2018
175
So the plans for the women's PPV are Alexa vs Trish and Ronda vs Nikki
Aug 19th 2018
164
Asuka's rumoured opponent is Lita
Aug 21st 2018
189
jeff doing a moonsault onto the apron nah fam
Aug 19th 2018
165
Where the fuck is Jeff Hardy buying those jeans in 2018?
Aug 19th 2018
166
I almost thought about googling Jnco
Aug 20th 2018
173
he buys 'em at those ICP gigolo festivals. lol.
Aug 20th 2018
176
A Jeff Hardy match is essentially performance art that imitates his life
Aug 19th 2018
167
RE: A Jeff Hardy match is essentially performance art that imitates his ...
Aug 20th 2018
168
MAN they need to get Road Dogg away from agenting the WWE title
Aug 20th 2018
169
are you saying..
Aug 20th 2018
177
That briefcase throw was by far the most impressive thing in that match
Aug 20th 2018
170
Good PPV last night, but the Boredom Era is now here
Aug 20th 2018
171
Joe's about to have a great run.....he shined last nigh
Aug 20th 2018
172
      ^^^^
Aug 20th 2018
174
      I said the 3 squashes on a SummerSlam PPV was terrible...
Aug 21st 2018
190
is seth's role now...
Aug 20th 2018
178
I can see him getting his run against Finn soon
Aug 20th 2018
179
you still suck chants. omg the crowd is ruthless.
Aug 20th 2018
180
It was GREAT...then....
Aug 20th 2018
181
HHH still knows how to run his mouth far beyond his welcome
Aug 20th 2018
182
Get ready for another month and a half of it...
Aug 20th 2018
183
which one of you used to defend Baron Corbin? He's basura
Aug 20th 2018
184
I've liked Corbin since he's come up
Aug 20th 2018
186
Me. Can't say there's a shred of anything worth defending right today
Aug 20th 2018
187
I was on the Corbin train too
Aug 21st 2018
193
lmao i tried to tell folks he's a scrub. dude is channel change status.
Aug 21st 2018
195
sasha and bailey reactions during ronda's segment are gold.
Aug 20th 2018
185
Will The Shield ever *not* be magical?
Aug 21st 2018
188
The last 10 minutes of that show were flawless
Aug 21st 2018
191
Also, Dean fucking HOUSING Ziggler was fantastic
Aug 21st 2018
192
Vince reeeeeeally wants cheers for Roman lol
Aug 21st 2018
194
Pains me to say it but I'm glad we have Roman as champ
Aug 21st 2018
196
Roman in a vacuum is dope
Aug 21st 2018
197
they've been going w/ long title runs...
Aug 21st 2018
198
But Roman can't talk and has ZERO Charisma
Aug 21st 2018
199
      Nah he’s a great talent, just used wrong
Aug 21st 2018
200
      Roman's charisma was a HUGE part of why the Shield worked
Aug 21st 2018
201
           I don't know what you see. He can't talk for nothing.
Aug 22nd 2018
211
                hmmm....certainly not Sting
Aug 22nd 2018
213
                RE: hmmm....certainly not Sting
Aug 22nd 2018
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                RE: hmmm....certainly not Sting? What! You Crazy!
Aug 23rd 2018
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                     Like this?
Aug 23rd 2018
217
                     I didn’t watch Sting until the early 90s
Aug 23rd 2018
218
                     Lmao Sting was widely criticized AT THE TIME for his weak promo
Aug 23rd 2018
219
                          Lol I even linked your man an example
Aug 24th 2018
222
                               This dude said "you must not know!....killing the verbal word play!...
Aug 24th 2018
223
                Bret was a mediocre promo. Talking was absolutely not what made him a le...
Aug 23rd 2018
220
                You said Sting, Michaels and Hart, but didn't mention Savage???
Aug 23rd 2018
221
                I mean, he might as well have mentioned Warrior
Aug 29th 2018
232
                     hell, I'd say that would have been better
Aug 29th 2018
233
                          That's fair; Warrior's terribleness was just refreshed for me
Aug 30th 2018
234
                Charisma and talking are two different things
Aug 27th 2018
228
2 smackdown observations
Aug 21st 2018
202
Becky as a heel helps her
Aug 21st 2018
203
      Maybe. why can’t she just be a pissed off and aggressive face though?
Aug 21st 2018
206
           The fans are cheering for her so who cares what it's called?
Aug 22nd 2018
207
                It matters because of how the writing will bear out
Aug 22nd 2018
208
                     yup, when she claimed that “you all cheered when Charlotte won”...
Aug 22nd 2018
209
PLEASE GIVE JOE THE BELT
Aug 21st 2018
204
"Oh Weeennnddddyyyyyyyy!!"
Aug 22nd 2018
210
I still think Miz is who takes it from AJ
Aug 23rd 2018
216
      I think the title goes to Joe, then Bryan, then Miz, then Mania
Aug 24th 2018
226
           I think they skip Joe and Bryan and go directly to Miz then Bryan
Aug 24th 2018
227
Great. Another face champion.
Aug 21st 2018
205
I'm actually in favour of some face champs being honest...
Aug 22nd 2018
212
I really can't wait for Matt Riddle on NXT TV
Aug 24th 2018
224
Mat Ridle/TVD ---probably wont suck
Aug 24th 2018
225
The iiconics are pure so bad it's good territory.
Aug 28th 2018
229
zelina is an excellent manager too.
Aug 28th 2018
230
      RE: zelina is an excellent manager too.
Aug 29th 2018
231
Watching the ALL IN pre-show
Sep 01st 2018
235
What a great weekend!!!! Place was full from start to finish
Sep 04th 2018
241
they stuck braun w/ beavis and butthead
Sep 03rd 2018
236
I accept putting Strowman with McIntyre and Ziggler
Sep 03rd 2018
237
Was I the only one that watched All In this weekend?
Sep 03rd 2018
238
I watched it live
Sep 04th 2018
239
I was there, had a blast
Sep 04th 2018
240
I was too, had a great time
Sep 04th 2018
242
I'm actually glad the main event needed to be short
Sep 04th 2018
243
oh no more Okada and less Young Bucks oh noooooooo
Sep 04th 2018
244
In your opinion, did it come off better live or on TV?
Sep 04th 2018
245
      I dont think either was bad, the broadcast shed a little more light on a...
Sep 04th 2018
247
RE: I was there, had a blast
Sep 04th 2018
246
Been watching in bits and pieces
Sep 04th 2018
248
Dream/Gargano was hot motherfuckin fire.
Sep 05th 2018
249
the best thing to happen to Dream was Cena's endorsement
Sep 06th 2018
250
He just walks the character. It's so great.
Sep 06th 2018
251
Dream is destined to be a joke character unless Vince croaks
Sep 06th 2018
252
      idk man, i think he's undeniable.
Sep 06th 2018
253
           he's got it. but lots of people have had it
Sep 07th 2018
255
           Unfortunately, I agree...
Sep 11th 2018
263
           Nakamura was Austin level over in NXT
Sep 07th 2018
256
                It's too bad that outside of his debut w/ Sami
Sep 07th 2018
257
                The difference is that Nak was already established.
Sep 07th 2018
258
                     lol
Sep 07th 2018
259
                     Dude went from vignette videos to holding a Kassius Ohno L. SMH.
Sep 07th 2018
260
                     and tbh Nak isn't as hungry
Sep 07th 2018
261
I buy Dream as a star
Sep 09th 2018
262
I'd be totally cool with a main roster division based on MYC alums
Sep 07th 2018
254

Y2Flound
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1. "Couldn't be less excited to be going to this show"
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This card sucks ass

  

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2. "I hope everyone goes to the bathroom during Roman/Lashley"
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Shit, if it's last, we could see over 50% of the crowd walk out

  

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11. "I hope they're smart enough to not put it on last"
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I could see it being the third to last match, with a cooldown match and then AJ vs Rusev last.


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3. "I just don't care about a single champ besides AJ"
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And I think I may be over Braun.

God, how do you fuck this up so bad?
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4. "That's where I am"
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>And I think I may be over Braun.
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>God, how do you fuck this up so bad?
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I have lost all interest in him at this point. They've made him a cartoon instead of a monster and they lost me.

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5. "Kaitlyn is coming BACK for the Mae. "
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Probably the last of the excellent "Divas," and probably one of the wrestlers that most significantly improved during their time with WWE.

I hope she sticks around beyond the tournament.

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6. "same, I remember that AJ/Kaitlyn feud being really good n/m"
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>I hope she sticks around beyond the tournament.

  

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9. "oh boy i like me some kaitlyn"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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7. "Looks like they're dusting off the shark cage again"
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Ellsworth will be in the cage for Carmella/Asuka.

I think it's a fun gimmick so I don't mind, but goddamn do they over-rely on it.

  

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8. "NXT continues to show up the main roster tag division"
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Again: this shit is not that hard. If you tell an emotional story in the ring, it's SUPER fucking compelling. Mustache Mountain are GREAT. UE are perfect shithead killer heels - I actually care about shit Roddy Strong is doing! (that Texas Cloverleaf Liontamer was MYYYY SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTT (c)Key and Peele)

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10. "my guess is they're waiting on Sasha/Bayley for Brooklyn"
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As a callback to their Takeover match, but this is one of those feuds I think deserves a trilogy and that trilogy could've ended in BK at Summerslam.

Not even shitting on these guys, but the idea that we need to see Corbin/Balor more than Sasha/Bayley (at Extreme Rules nonetheless, which is perfect for blood feuds) is absurd.

  

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12. "G1 Climax Tournament to have all English commentary"
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I honestly can't wait. If its even close to as good as last years we're in for a special treat.

You already have crazy matches, and I think close to the end you have Ibushi vs. Omega.

I have no idea who could win this thing. I would even go for Naito winning it again and then finally winning the title at Wrestle Kingdom, although I would rather see him beat Okada at the Tokyo Dome.

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13. "kinda feel the same way"
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>I have no idea who could win this thing. I would even go for
>Naito winning it again and then finally winning the title at
>Wrestle Kingdom, although I would rather see him beat Okada at
>the Tokyo Dome.

Okada is the test Naito hasn't passed yet and I think it would be better at Wrestle Kingdom, but they can also have those 2 meet in the G1 finals and then Naito goes on to win the title of Omega at WK13.

Personally, I'd love to see Ishii win. That Ishii/Omega match in California last year was bananas and I'd love to see them top it.

  

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14. "Comes down to who would co-headline WK"
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I feel its too soon for another Okada vs. Omega.

Naito and Ibushi are two names that stand out to me that could give an amazing match on their biggest show.

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15. "Tough to tell how they view Ibushi"
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Seems like he's content with not being under contract ever so I think that will continue to stifle any push. On the other hand, Omega/Ibushi would be fucking fantastic and it's easy to set up with all the history they have.

Looks like they'll be facing each other late in the tourney if what I read was correct. Maybe Ibushi gets a win there, wins the G1, then at WK Omega gets his win back + retains? I could see that happening.

  

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16. "ROH and NJPW G1 Supercard is on for Mania weekend"
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https://www.rohwrestling.com/news/rohnjpw-present-g1-supercard-live-madison-square-garden


They're holding this event in MSG. I didn't even know Mania was going to be in NYC this year, looks like I'm going with my main focus being this show! Finally something I can drive to!

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17. "I'm road tripping out west right now so I have no idea whats going on"
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Which matches are the iron man and cage matches?

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18. "i include stips on the excel sheet now but i'll list them here:"
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Ironman: Rolins vs. Ziggler

Cage: Strowman vs. Owens

Extreme Rules: Nia vs. Alexa

Tables Match: New Day vs. Sanity

James Ellsworth in a Shark Cage match: I mean I'd hope you know which one that is...

  

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19. "Hogan reinstated"
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At this point I guess everyone just says the N word so we can' punish Hogan for so long?

https://www.wwe.com/article/hulk-hogan-reinstated-into-wwe-hall-of-fame?sf193730743=1

  

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25. "I'd be mad about it if I didn't see it coming"
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I'm surprised they kept him on ice for 3 years

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20. "What a stupid fucking finish..."
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I was annoyed with the crowd doing the fake Rumble countdown the whole match but that ending retroactively justified treating the whole thing as one big joke.

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22. "Yep. There's no need to Dusty a finish that already benefits the heel"
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21. "G1 Night 2 - wow!"
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Ibushi vs. Zach Saber JR
Omega vs. Naito

These matches fucking delivered! I'm talking edge of my seat the entire time and it's only night 2 of a month long tournament.

This is wrestling!

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23. "This is how you do a press conference"
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https://youtu.be/gzi8MZEcWd8

Next meeting we have at work I'm giving the same speech.

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24. "LOL."
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26. "Vince really about to force feed us more Roman. Get this nigga out"
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Of the title picture once and for all.

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27. "In the old days it would be time to let him go to WCW for a couple years..."
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He badly needs a change of scenery.

  

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29. "yep. in lieu of that he needs to work his way back up"
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kick him down to the IC belt

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28. "the way they're fumbling Sasha left and right is hilarious"
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she easily has the most crossover potential of any of the women

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30. "Real question: has the show ever been this consistently shitty?"
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33. "This is the worst it's been in my life. Flat out. I feel bad for the tal..."
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Because they are being misused by a bunch of buffoons.

None of the storyline make sense anymore. The match booking doesn't make any sense. Even the actual matches themselves are a bunch of what the fuck moves and then bam finisher.

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31. "hol up so we gotta run back Reigns and Lashley again..."
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man fuck this mess.

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32. "This shit don't make no sense"
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Bobby beats Roman in a PPV match.

The next night he has to wrestle in a triple threat match to get the "privilege" to fight Roman again for a shot at the title at Summerslam.

Why would you have to fight the guy you just beat again?! The guy that keeps losing to Brock? Honestly it makes these PPV matches worthless because they just run the same match over again on the following or next Monday. You even got Nak vs Hardey again on Smackdown.

I can't wrap my head around this.

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34. "the people demand it! n/m"
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>man fuck this mess.

  

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35. "We knew it was a main event match"
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Next week we can fix our mistake.

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36. "Rumor is the IC match was supposed to be first"
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I bet they really wanted Roman to go on last but didn't want to show people getting up and leaving early which would have happened.

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37. "It's beyond ridiculous at this point"
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You have Michael Cole announcing him like he's Cena, the Rock, and 80's Hogan rolled into one...all while being just about drowned out by boos week after week. Let him go away for a while. It's fairly obvious that the years of push won't make anyone over 16 cheer him, and the booking certainly doesn't help more often than not.

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38. "I almost like this Orton thing going on"
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If for no other reason than it isn't the typical RKO out of nowhere and stand around for photo ops. I'm wondering where it's going with him and Hardy, but I'm certain all the intrigue will be gone shortly.

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39. "As much as the RKO pops the crowd, Randy is a GREAT heel when he's focus..."
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40. "Women's Tag Belts and an all women PPV incoming. Thoughts?"
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tag belts to be defended across all brands.

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41. "In a bubble, it's a great idea"
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and there are enough women not just to pull it off but to justify it. Some of the women will never truly be in title contention so it gives them something to do.

In reality, the cruiserweight title can't even get on the preshow anymore, so I doubt they put much time and effort into this. That may be better than nothing, but I'm guessing we'll be complaining about the women's tag scene not being taken seriously REAL soon.

  

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42. "They need to unify the singles belts and have them defended across brand..."
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*****

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43. "Or turn one into a Women's IC belt."
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44. "Impact Slammiversary was really good"
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Just off of this PPV alone I'll be checking out the show weekly now. Honestly one of the better North American PPV's I've seen this year. If you can find the Pentagon Jr vs Sami Callihan match do yourself a favor and check it out.

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45. ""We invented women's wrestling even tho it existed already." - WWE"
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46. "Look at the hurdles* they've overcome"
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*hurdles we set up for them cause we never took them seriously

  

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47. "What a shocker...Lesnar/Reigns @ SummerSlam"
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I'm glad WWE Kreative dug deep to come up with that matchup.

Unless, of course, they do the unimaginable and find a way to make it a three way match with Lashley...another original concept.

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48. "RE: What a shocker...Lesnar/Reigns @ SummerSlam"
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>I'm glad WWE Kreative dug deep to come up with that matchup.
>
>Unless, of course, they do the unimaginable and find a way to
>make it a three way match with Lashley...another original
>concept.

It would be fine if Reigns didn’t get a million shots that don’t make sense. With this Lashley thing, he lost, then got a rematch for some reason, wins, and now he’s just in a title match. Again. Maybe Lashley IS gonna get himself added somehow.

  

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49. "At this point Lashley should just beat him down next week"
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And proclaim he's sick of Roman getting so many unnecessary opportunities. Crowd would go crazy for it so that means it won't happen.

In other news, my Mondays are now spent doing things I enjoy and I watch the highlights later. I don't feel guilty about wasting 3 hours on it anymore.

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50. "and they STILL think this is a "Roman overcomes the odds" story"
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>It would be fine if Reigns didn’t get a million shots that
>don’t make sense.

He shouldn't have even been in the triple threats last week.

  

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54. "I think he might actually turn heel"
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Because the minute he beats Brock, shit is gonna be so toxic that it will actually seem like they have no choice but to have Strowman cash in.

  

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51. "man this is fucking dumb."
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i'd rather have the CENA WINS LOL days back over this.

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52. "They've also ruined Elias. he's just a gag act now"
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shame because he could be one of the leading guys of the company if they let him.

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53. "from the minute he caught on, there was a strategy behind Cena"
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they quickly realized they had a star and they put a progression plan in place to get him where they needed him

I can assure you, such a plan does not exist for Elias.

  

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55. "Anyone see that Randy Orton promo?"
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Really enjoyed the whole episode, but this was the highlight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUZWG-em5dM

  

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56. ""I've had enough of you people" is a solid promo formula"
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And heel Randy is great.

Also, 6 minutes. All the great promos are 7 minutes or under, start to finish. Pipe Bomb, Cane Dewey, Hard Times, Dined with Kings and Queens, Ric Flair's entire 80s oeuvre, 3:16, "God? It's me, Billy," Cream of the Crop.

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63. "Yup. There are times it doesn't come off as believable."
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Like when they trot out Ziggler to give that speech once a month, but usually it works.

  

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57. "I don't get it"
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So the entire basis of the promo is I'm the biggest star of the last 20 years, I outlasted everyone and yet never get the proper recognition for it.

That is why I must end the career of someone always known for tag team wrestling who had a peak a long time ago and was never as successful as me.

  

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59. "yeah that was a headscratcher"
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60. "I shouldn't complain because it gives them something to do"
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I don't really want either of them in the main event and am glad we are getting AJ vs Joe.

But Kayfabe wise he literally could have shown up and cut the exact same promo on AJ about being an indy darling and not earning a spot on Orton's show AND he'd be going after the champ, why would you not do that if you're Orton storyline wise?

  

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64. "I think this just ties back to recent programming"
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If I'm not mistaken, a couple months ago Randy was about to answer an open challenge and then Hardy came out and answered instead. It was odd how many times Orton insisted he wasn't upset in interviews. I was kinda expecting them to do something with that, although he hasn't mentioned it yet.

  

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58. "It was a very solid promo"
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I love that he made reference to the "dive" thing again. Even focusing on the two sweet hand gesture.

A motivated Randy Orton is what we needed. Maybe this feud will light a fire under him and we'll get to see that vicious heel once again.

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61. "he has been saying for the last year at least he wanted to turn heel"
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in every podcast or interview I have seen him in thats all he ever talks about. He is bored with being a baby face. It definitely showed in his work. I wasnt around for his legend killer run. But he just has a really food smug arrogant look. Plus the RKO is built for sneaking into the ring and taking dudes out.It just makes so much sense.

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62. "The vitriol he spews when he simply says "Bingo Halls""
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is pretty fucking impressive.

And yeah, more than the content of the promo, it just looks like he gives a shit. And that's a great sign.

  

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65. "Soooo.... anybody catch NXT?"
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lmao

Poor Johnny. You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

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66. "Not digging that the buzzword in promo class was "repetition" this week"
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Ric, Sane and Bianca all repeating themselves over and over again (especially Ricochet repeating EVERY. SENTENCE. Repeating EVERY sentence.) was a slog to get to the brilliance of Black/Ciampa. Word up to Sean Maluta taking the Shelton Benjamin Memorial Superkick Bump, too.

I liked the extra effort on the ref bump. LOVED Ciampa repeatedly calling Drake over to raise his hand (see, that's how repetition WORKS).

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67. "I liked Ricochet's promos during the Dream feud, but in general I'm not ..."
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Can't speak for the other 2 you named, and I think Ricochet has a good sense of humor outside of the ring, but for whatever reason he can't string it together consistently enough on the mic. It bums me out only cause I know they have guys who are ready to go in both areas.


>I liked the extra effort on the ref bump. LOVED Ciampa
>repeatedly calling Drake over to raise his hand (see, that's
>how repetition WORKS).
>

Yup! For a second I was annoyed at how quick he recovered compared to other refs, but he was kind of a beast as an indie wrestler so I let it slide. Ciampa has been a revelation though. His non-entrance entrance is 90x better than Ziggler's. What a fantastic troll. Everything I hear about him outside of the ring paints him as such a nice dude too!

  

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70. "Cole's also giving me pre-"Mr. Wrestlemania" HBK vibes right now."
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He's going to make WWE a shit ton of money if they get out of his way and give him the time to have bust-ass matches and cut promos on his own terms.

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68. "R.I.P. Brian Christopher (Lawler) and Nikolai Volkoff"
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BC was a Saturday morning staple for me before he made it to the wwf. Hate him and Lawller didn’t have the prototypical father/son bond but that’s life. Hate his life sprialed out of control at the end


*Edit: R.I.P. to Brickhouse Brown as well. Also someone I grew up watching on Saturday mornings

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69. "so we get Elias vs Lashley aka the Fumbled Wave Feud"
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71. "watched Miz and Maryse last night since i was too lazy to change"
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the channel after RAW.

1) they're very funny, especially Maryse's mom
2) Maryse pregnancy titties are BIG AS FUCK HOLY SHIT.

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72. "Didn't even want to bother with it"
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>2) Maryse pregnancy titties are BIG AS FUCK HOLY SHIT.

I may bother with it for a minute.

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76. "Miz' dad is really funny too."
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73. " In the name of all that is right and holy...."
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PLEASE give Joe a belt!

I don't think this is his time, but he cuts decent promos, he fits his character perfectly, he has skills....if bums like Slater, Dallas, and Axel can hold belts, why not Joe??

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75. "I definitely think it's Joseph's time..."
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Well, I said the same about Shinsuke but this time I definitely think it's going to be Joseph for the SummerFest win.

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77. "It was his time at Balls last year."
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He was a credible threat to Brock, and would have opened up so many other programs if they pulled the trigger then.

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Him choking out Heyman, the pull-apart... But it was never going to happen back then with Roman being the big picture.

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80. "I remember the build for their program being great..."
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Him choking out Heyman, the pull-apart... But it was never going to happen back then with Roman being the big picture.

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74. "it's gotta be real smoke between the Miz and Bryan (Cena too)"
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whenever the Miz is feuding w/ either one his material is savage lmao.

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78. "Those are the guys he can open up on"
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Miz is smart as shit about wrestling and how to keep the heat where the heat needs to go. Bryan and Cena are untouchable. They're both extremely good promos who can match levels with the worst Miz has to offer (or they inspire Miz to elevate his material).

On top of that, those two are completely cemented in the crowd's eyes -- Cena is what he is at this point, and Bryan is pretty well perma-over. So it's not like a feud with Ziggler where nothing he ever does sticks, and one savage line from Miz would win the crowd in his favor (for as much as Ziggler puts himself forward as the ultimate heel on social media and shit, Miz is WAY WAY better as a wrestling heel because he knows how to keep the crowd wanting to see his ass get kicked-- Ziggler was nominally a heel when he cashed in his MITB). And it's not like a feud with Strowman where Miz being a total asshole would be unbelievable, so he plays it as a chickenshit heel, which is perfect.

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79. "Miz made it because of how big of a wrestling fan he was"
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>Miz is smart as shit about wrestling and how to keep the heat
>where the heat needs to go. Bryan and Cena are untouchable.
>They're both extremely good promos who can match levels with
>the worst Miz has to offer (or they inspire Miz to elevate his
>material).
>
>On top of that, those two are completely cemented in the
>crowd's eyes -- Cena is what he is at this point, and Bryan is
>pretty well perma-over. So it's not like a feud with Ziggler
>where nothing he ever does sticks, and one savage line from
>Miz would win the crowd in his favor (for as much as Ziggler
>puts himself forward as the ultimate heel on social media and
>shit, Miz is WAY WAY better as a wrestling heel because he
>knows how to keep the crowd wanting to see his ass get
>kicked-- Ziggler was nominally a heel when he cashed in his
>MITB). And it's not like a feud with Strowman where Miz being
>a total asshole would be unbelievable, so he plays it as a
>chickenshit heel, which is perfect.


Our first ever glimpse of this guy was on the Real World pretending he was The Rock. He wanted to be a wrestler more than anything and it shows how he has studied and understood wrestling psychology.

If it weren't for his love of it he'd have never gotten to the level he was because his barrier of entry was very high and he kept failing for a long time.

  

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81. "So… EC3’s gonna be the next wellness suspension, yeah?"
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Just watching NXT and dude’s bacne is off the damned chain

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82. "I am thoroughly enjoying this Ciampa promo too. "
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LOLLLLLLLL at Johnny getting the “you deserve it” chants.

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86. "RE: I am thoroughly enjoying this Ciampa promo too. "
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Ciampa might be my favorite dude in the whole company right now. Everything he does is gold.


>LOLLLLLLLL at Johnny getting the “you deserve it” chants.
>

Loved that. I like Johnny, but that was great. I try to avoid NXT spoilers, so I don't know if it's already out there, but I'd be super down for a Ciampa-Johnny-Black triple threat for the title at Takeover.

  

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83. "G1 Climax Night 14 = HO-LEE-SHIT!!"
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The last two matches were off the chart!!!!

Omega vs Ishii
Ibushi vs Naito

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84. "Video"
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Kenny vs. Ishii
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Ibushi vs. Naito
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85. "Watching now."
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This is why I want Ishii to win the whole tourney. He and Omega never disappoint. I really hope they put the title on Ishii someday. He's not really talked about in the conversation of the best, but he should be cause he's an absolute badass.

  

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87. "It's all about who is going to main event WK"
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I have a strange feeling its going to be Naito again and this time he'll win the title at WK. Ishii gets a title shot because he beat Omega in that non title match so I have a feeling that'll happen before the end of the year.

Right now I'm thinking Naito, Ibushi, or Tanahashi will main event WK with Omega.

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88. "This All In card is . . . kinda wack"
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No matches announced yet for Omega or Pentagon but the star of a B-level CW/DC "action" series is definitely on the card.


Zero Hour: The Briscoes vs. SCU (Frankie Kazarian and Scorio Sky)
Zero Hour: The Over Budget Battle Royale, a fifteen-wrestler battle royal which will include Rocky Romero, Jordynne Grace, Moose, Ethan Page, and Colt Cabana.
Christopher Daniels vs. Stephen Amell
Hangman Page vs. Joey Janela (with Penelope Ford)
Kazuchika Okada vs. Marty Scurll
Rey Mysterio, Bandido, and Fenix vs. Kota Ibushi and The Young Bucks
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89. "Shit... can we get Omega vs. Pentagon? "
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I had assumed Penta would be teaming with Fenix when they were announced, but he's such a big star at this point that i guess he demands a singles bout. Omega and him could put on a really fun and intense match.

Maybe they're holding out on Omega's matchup cause it's with a certain someone from Chicago??? If it's like Omega vs. Flip Gordon or something then I'll shit on it.

>Zero Hour: The Briscoes vs. SCU (Frankie Kazarian and Scorio
>Sky)
>Zero Hour: The Over Budget Battle Royale, a fifteen-wrestler
>battle royal which will include Rocky Romero, Jordynne Grace,
>Moose, Ethan Page, and Colt Cabana.
>Christopher Daniels vs. Stephen Amell

these do very little for me, especially that last one.

>Hangman Page vs. Joey Janela (with Penelope Ford)

I've been getting into Hangman recently and think this could be really good.

>Kazuchika Okada vs. Marty Scurll

I'm actually really intrigued by this one. I could see it disappointing, and everyone seems to agree it's not the match they would've guessed for Okada, but that's exactly why I'm curious. Still, it's gonna be tough to sell Scurll as legit competition for Kazu. He's gonna need a bigger umbrella or something.

>Rey Mysterio, Bandido, and Fenix vs. Kota Ibushi and The Young
>Bucks

Don't really understand this hodgepodge. I like Rey more than ever now, and he's in the best shape of his career, so it's a bit of a bummer to see him in a tag. Him vs. Fenix or Kota would be way better imo. I also don't think they've done enough to establish that the Bucks and Kota are friends rather than just have a mutual friend/common interest, ya know?

>NWA World Heavyweight Championship Match: Nick Aldis (c) vs.
>Cody (with Brandi Rhodes)

I like that Cody is going for the NWA belt, but not particularly excited for this matchup.


Edit: oh, didn't even see that Penta/Omega was being tossed around in the rumor mill. fingers crossed.

  

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90. "it's the right talent used in a bunch of wrong ways"
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Cody booking himself in a main event for a title no one cares about , or Rey in a tag, or Okada against someone that isn't equally as special...all headscratchers for sure

  

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91. "If they do it right, they can remake the NWA title. "
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However, IDK that Cody v. Magnus is the best match for that. If they can somehow have Pentagon or even Punk sneak the title away in the next month, then baby they got a stew going.

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92. "Gotta wonder what kind of politics play in to this kind of card"
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A For Us By Us card is a great idea, but what happens when there are essentially no head bookers or bosses to impress or nobody who gets the final say because it's their company?

I wonder if there was a lot of people not wanting to be exposed in certain matches, fight certain guys, difficulty in agreeing how certain things would go since this is essentially the biggest indy show ever in America.

Maybe none of it happened, we may never know true stories, but I can see this being difficult for Cody to book and main event and make everyone happy. I know that's a throwback to how it used to be done but these are not wrestlers from that era

  

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93. "Anyone going to WM weekend next year?"
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Scored me some G1 Supercard tickets so looks like I'm going. This will be my first WM weekend.

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94. "I think I'm personally done with Manias for a while"
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Been to 4 of the last 5 and each one just feels more and more like a chore.

Mania is the worst part of the whole weekend and you can't go and just not go to Mania (I mean you could but that's weird). By the time it ends you feel like you've been through a marathon.

Of course I say that and will probably be buying tickets when they go on sale.

  

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95. "I wasn't even going for that lol"
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Now you got me thinking I should just get super cheap Mania tickets since I'm there. Honestly more interested in the other things taking place that weekend.

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96. "probably the best play"
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>Now you got me thinking I should just get super cheap Mania
>tickets since I'm there. Honestly more interested in the
>other things taking place that weekend.

me and my friends spent a bit. we had a great time and I don't regret it, but for how far away we were we should've probably just went with nosebleeds. The indie shows, Takeover, and the Raw after Mania is where you should splurge.

  

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97. "I think they're going to turn Roman Reigns heel "
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Now I know this is giving them a lot of benefit of the doubt - there's really no evidence to think they're qualified to pull something like this off anymore. But I think the stars may actually be aligning for a Lesnar exit/Reigns turn/Strowman cash in at Summerslam

- Brock seems to have one foot out the door, and they wouldn't book this match a FOURTH time to have Reigns come up short AGAIN would they? The one certainty is that he's definitely and finally beating Lesnar at Summerslam.

- But they also couldn't possibly expect Reigns to be received well at the end of their 2nd biggest show of the year in Brooklyn of all places could they? Surely, as dumb as they are, they know how a whitebread babyface win by Reigns will go.

- Watch this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSzvxxUnjgI
Heyman's "unless..." is worth paying attention to

- Why give the MITB briefcase to a babyface? To put a bow on Summerslam and not have it turn out a total disaster. Heyman turns on Lesnar, Reigns cheats to win, Strowman cashes in...and that works because a babyface can't cash in fairly otherwise. They're even trying to tease that Strowman is going to lose the briefcase to lead you another way.


Am I giving these bozos way too much credit?



  

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98. "Hmm I don't really see it..."
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The anti-Brock angle seems to be working and Roman has had a good response over the last few weeks. Obviously the NY crowd will want to change that though so who knows?!

Separating Heyman and Brock has been interesting - as you say, not sure if it's been done to have Heyman involved in the match/finish somehow or if it was just done to generate more heat on Brock.

Yes the MITB briefcase seems to be another unknown quantity here. I'd love KO to win it but doubt that it'll happen. Being honest - I hope that Lesnar/Reigns isn't interrupted and that Roman just gets the win he was scheduled for 18 months ago. Just get it over with so the product can move on.

I'm actually anticipating another Shield heel-turn though with Ambrose. I'm guessing Ambrose will return to help Seth (maybe this coming RAW) but cost him the title at SummerFest.

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99. "What you said made a lot of sense"
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So yes, you gave them too much credit.

A little fantasy booking here. I would have Roman go over Brock clean. You get a massive amount of boo's at the end, at this point don't even mute the crowd let the boo's be heard.

Bruan's music hits, he runs down the ramp and hands the ref the briefcase. Crowd is going ape shit thinking they'll be a title change this quick. Match starts and Roman cheats his ass off and destroy's Bruan. I'm talking using chairs, low blows, everything he can. Match ends either with Roman pinning him, or the preferred way with Bruan winning via DQ but Roman keeping the title.


On Raw Roman gives his heel speech. There you have it.

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101. "That’s an even better idea "
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102. "I wouldn't boo Roman for that at all though..."
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He would have just defeated Brock Lesnar so for anyone to have to fight Braun straightaway, I think it would be more than fair for him to use chairs, etc. A heel turn for Roman would be to just walk away. Have Braun come down and have Roman clutch the belt to him and just say no as he walks away. It can be a count-out loss or not even start but him playing the coward would piss people off more than taking the fight to the legit monster.

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103. "Can you just walk away?"
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Bruan would chase his ass down and toss him back in the ring. Braun is so loved by the fans that an absolute beating on him would bring straight heat to whoever delivered it. It makes sense to us that someone would walk away from another title defense after immediately defeating Lesnar, but the average fan doesn't want Roman to win, they absolutely don't want Roman to beat Braun after a cash in.

That's happened to Roman before, this time he needs to be prepared and by that he needs to go all out on Braun. He's failed too many times to let it slip away again.

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104. "I hear that but I couldn't boo the guy who went all out on Braun..."
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Fans hate the coward not the guy who stands and fights. There isn't a heel tactic Roman could do in that situation - low blows, chair shots, etc - that people could hold against him. Him cheating against Lesnar though is a different matter and that would be heelish as Lesnar hasn't cheated to beat Roman before (despite the ref's call at the cage match).

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100. "RE: I think they're going to turn Roman Reigns heel "
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I think I want a heel Shield. Ambrose, Reigns, and...eventually, Rollins. Or the Usos. Either way. They spend the fall beating Strowman in the shadiest ways possible to keep Roman as champ.

But I don’t trust WWE to execute it well enough for the crowd to not cheer it like crazy so I assume we get Heyman shenanigans where he aligns with Reigns and then the heeling will happen. And it will be fun. And Strowman will still be getting beat in the shadiest ways possible to ensure that Roman stays heel.

>Now I know this is giving them a lot of benefit of the doubt -
>there's really no evidence to think they're qualified to pull
>something like this off anymore. But I think the stars may
>actually be aligning for a Lesnar exit/Reigns turn/Strowman
>cash in at Summerslam
>
>- Brock seems to have one foot out the door, and they
>wouldn't book this match a FOURTH time to have Reigns come up
>short AGAIN would they? The one certainty is that he's
>definitely and finally beating Lesnar at Summerslam.
>
>- But they also couldn't possibly expect Reigns to be received
>well at the end of their 2nd biggest show of the year in
>Brooklyn of all places could they? Surely, as dumb as they
>are, they know how a whitebread babyface win by Reigns will
>go.
>
>- Watch this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSzvxxUnjgI
>Heyman's "unless..." is worth paying attention to
>
>- Why give the MITB briefcase to a babyface? To put a bow on
>Summerslam and not have it turn out a total disaster. Heyman
>turns on Lesnar, Reigns cheats to win, Strowman cashes
>in...and that works because a babyface can't cash in fairly
>otherwise. They're even trying to tease that Strowman is going
>to lose the briefcase to lead you another way.
>
>
>Am I giving these bozos way too much credit?
>
>
>
>

  

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106. "I think the addition of the Uso's has to be "Roman Empire""
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Instead of The Shield. Or better yet, AOP.

And their first act should be to beat the brakes off Ambrose and Rollins AND the Uso's, in a really, really bad way.

In a perfect WWE world, Ronda would turn heel the same night, that night would close with her, Roman, and AOP in the middle of the ring, with Paul Heyman standing in front of them, mic in hand, saying "Ladies and Gentlemen....", and then tossing the mic.

  

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107. " I thought that back around 'Mania time"
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but they are going so hard with the Lesnar nasty heel act that I don't see it now. <aybe he goes "y'all booed me all this time trying to beat Lesnar and now that I did it, screw y'all" but unless he turns to start a series with Strowman, not happening IMO.

I wouldn't mind seeing a turn though...I might even like him.

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105. "You guys, Takeover's going to be so good"
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108. "Video: Omega vs. Ibushi 2018"
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https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6ruusr


Final Match of the G1 Climax 2018
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109. "It's pretty amazing how many stories they can weave into the G1"
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Kenny and Kota had to face each other at the end and were dreading it.

Okada having an existential crisis that involved balloons for some reason.

Tanahashi looking like a worldbeater.

Naito having his block in the bag only to lose it at the end.

Juice Robinson had an injury/losing streak and was reevaluating his career.

Ishii looking like a badass all tourney and earning a title match.

I wasn't always crazy about the Firing Squad interference, but they had to do something to keep them strong as they lost I guess.

  

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110. "It really sets the stage for so many possibilities "
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>Kenny and Kota had to face each other at the end and were
>dreading it.

I really wanted to see this run back at WK but I understand. That long term booking that njpw does, I'm sure Kota will get his main event one of these days and I'll be epic as hell.


>Okada having an existential crisis that involved balloons for
>some reason.

He just said that Gedo was no longer going to be his manager. The man was champ for so long and lost his title and himself in the process. Maybe we're going to see the rainmaker rebuild himself. Something tells me he could beat Tanahashi for that briefcase.


>Tanahashi looking like a worldbeater.

Dude performed like a God in the G1 and let everyone know that he's still the Ace. I was pulling for Kota but I'm not even mad Tana won this. Everything he's done for new japan he deserves this win. Him and Kenny may put on one hell of a show at WK.



>Naito having his block in the bag only to lose it at the end.

Naito is in a weird spot right now. Lost the WK main event, lost the IC title to Jericho, and still is one of the most popular wrestler on the roster. I have no idea what's next for him and I think that's exactly what the company wants us to feel. He's going to get that title win one of these days.


>Juice Robinson had an injury/losing streak and was
>reevaluating his career.

Him losing all those matches in the tournament set so many people up for a US Title shot, and I really feel like he's going to pull off those wins against them for his underdog story.


>Ishii looking like a badass all tourney and earning a title
>match.

Ishii is absolutely on fire now and I'm already marking out for Omega's title defense against him. I've never seen these two not perform well with each other. The next match is going to be sick and I almost feel like Ishii was the MVP of the G1. I think these two will face each other on the Destruction tour next month.


>I wasn't always crazy about the Firing Squad interference, but
>they had to do something to keep them strong as they lost I
>guess.

The interference got on a lot of people's nerves but I think we're looking at the real bad boys of njpw. They're doing what Suzuki-Gun has been doing all along but they don't care if they get caught or not. They won the Never tag titles and tossed them out of the ring pretty much saying fuck em. One good thing is I'm interested in every aspect of what they've set up so far and I know each story will be handled well in ring.

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111. "Oh no! Jim Neidhart passed away."
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https://lordsofpain.net/wwe-legend-jim-the-anvil-neidhart-passes-away/

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112. "Who? "
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RIP to one of the best tag team wrestlers to ever do it.

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113. "He really was!"
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Hart Foundation are my favourite tag team - complimented each other really well and Anvil was awesome being able to do the stuff he could for a guy of that size.

So sad to think that Owen, Davey, Anvil, Pillman... Bret's the last one.

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114. "Eh. RIP and all but best? I don't see how he sits in the top tier. "
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Love me some HF and Anvil. Sad to see he's passed.

But there's a long line before his name comes up as an individually great tag team wrestler. Arn, Tully, Eaton, R&R Express (both) Michaels, *ahem* Bret, Owen, E&C both, The Hardys (both), The Dudleys (both), Booker T, both Steiners, LOD, Dynamite Kid, I mean... even newer cats like Cesaro.

He's pretty far back on the list, and THF doesn't exactly sit well on that top tier list as a team, let alone him as an individual.

  

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115. "Always the dude to pour cold water on shit."
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117. "Otherwise known as sense, reason, rationality, perspective, etc. "
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I guess you can be mad and try to create a "thing" out of Anvil not really being in that GOAT class. I won't be a participant, but hey... have fun trying lmao

  

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119. "ain't nobody showed up mad in this post but you, as usual"
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124. "And, as usual, there's zero evidence to back up that assertion"
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I can't even give you a "nice try" sticker for that.

  

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127. "Dog, it's an RIP thread that you showed up to "well actually" all over. "
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129. "Psst..you brought up the quality of his career. Not me. "
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You introduced that to the discussion

And ONE reply hardly constitutes "all over", and your hurt ass feelings don't magically change that fact.

If you *just* wanted to see a string of RIP followed by over the top embellishments just because the man is dead, that's your problem. If you didn't want to discuss his actual stature within the business, you shouldn't have brought it up.

Literally the only example of "mad" in here is the guy who couldn't handle a differing opinion, entirely expressed without snark or vitriol.

It's not my fault that you don't possess enough nuance to be able to hold to distinctly different discussions without getting pissy about it.

Look, if it makes you feel better to continue trying to make a "thing" because I expressed a different take on his career, have at it.

Chalk it up to part of the grieving process, I dunno. What I do know, as an observable fact, is that you don't have a single reasonable argument to justify your absurd reaction to a rather tame and wholly uncontroversial take on his career.

  

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131. "That's a whole lot of assumptions you're making, chief. "
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132. "No, it's a lot of facts that, again, you don't have an actual basis to o..."
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You were bothered that I disagreed with you on whether or not he's a goat tag wrestler and tried to create a thing out of it.

You had a pissy reaction to a completely benign, non confrontational, snark free opinion that disagreed with you.

Further, you chose to derail an RIP portion of this thread for a wrestler you clearly like just because I didn't agree with your assessment.

Great job, "chief".

You're just plain wrong and chose derail the post for absolutely no good reason.

None of this is remotely up for debate.

  

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134. "I'm not the one vomiting paragraphs here (so allow me to retort)"
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I made a simple statement in tribute to the man, who ranks as *ONE OF* the best people to feature in a tag team. ONE OF. That's a qualifier that leaves a lot of leeway, does it not?

You could have let that slide and said RIP. Or just said nothing. You could have done that too.

Not you. Nope.

So I pointed out that, wherever there's a chance to be superior and negative, there you are. And there, indeed, you were.

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136. "No vomit. Just facts."
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>I made a simple statement in tribute to the man, who ranks as
>*ONE OF* the best people to feature in a tag team. ONE OF.
>That's a qualifier that leaves a lot of leeway, does it not?

Actually... no. It doesn't.

>You could have let that slide and said RIP. Or just said
>nothing. You could have done that too.
>
>Not you. Nope.

...just as you could have let my reply slide, yes?

Just as you could have chosen, multiple times, to not continue to derail the RIP portion of this thread because you have an oddly asinine issue with me disagreeing with you.

You created a "thing" out of nothing, because I don't think he qualifies as goat tier.

>So I pointed out that, wherever there's a chance to be
>superior and negative, there you are. And there, indeed, you
>were.

I posted a different opinion. Not a "superior" or even negative opinion. Just one that disagreed with yours. Youre projecting in a big way.

And you decided that it was such an egregious offense that you decided to derail the post over it.

LMAO

  

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137. "Jesus Christ you're delusional. "
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I forgot, man. You're the hero of this place. Never, ever wrong. How could I have been so foolish?

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138. "I posted an opinion. You posted a snarky insult. "
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You're doing this bullshit, deflective tapdance right now, but the only delusion here is you thinking you didn't create an issue from nothing.

You've taken multiple personal jabs instead of addressing whether or not you had any justification for taking any issue at all with me simply expressing an opinion. Conversely, I've focused on the specifics of this discussion and how it got from point a to point b- all without the potshots, mind you.

You could have posted your take, as you eventually did anyways, and a good discussion could have been had regarding his career.

Instead you chose to create a mess in response to an opinion that didn't agree with you.

  

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139. "Sure. I've created this mess."
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140. "It's really not up for debate. Not sure why this is so hard for you to a..."
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I posted an opinion.
You responded with a snarky insult.

Then somehow managed to blame me for your inability to have a civil discussion whe someone simply doesn't agree with you.

Talk about delusions.

  

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141. "Wait, what did I do?"
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142. "Wait, you can't read now?"
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I'll summarize:

You've been a dick for absolutely no good reason, from the very beginning of this little dance, manufactured a "conflict" out of thin air, and somehow still tried to pretend that it was me.

  

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143. "Yeahhhhh, still not seeing it."
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144. "I know. As I said: talk about delusions "
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You chose to completely derail an RIP post over an issue that didn't exist.

  

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146. "So this constant need to have the last word: addiction, compulsion"
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Or something else entirely?

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147. "People who bring up "the last word" do so because they want the last wor..."
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But aren't getting it.

So you should ask that question of yourself.

  

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148. "CT’s argument style: “nuh uh, you.”"
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This is amusing.

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149. "^^proving my point. A back and forth requires two parties. "
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At no point have you shown a willingness to just drop it.

Further, I've explained your foolishness several times and in great detail.

Conversely, you do nothing but make assertions that don't match up with readily observable reality. Then you say things about me that clearly apply to yourself, throw insults, and then throw tantrums.

Instead of pointing out how and where I'm wrong, as I've done with you, you say dumb shit like "I forgot you're the hero and are never wrong".

The most amusing thing about this is the fact that you started this, don't want to let it go, and accuse me of having to have that word as you keep trying yo get the last word. Its not "no, YOU!"...its what you actually demonstrate.

  

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150. "If you think I'm taking this seriously at all, go seek help."
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You keep diving in with rage posts about your superior mind. Cool story, bro.

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151. "I don't think you know what "rage" looks like."
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And this "superior" thing is funny from someone saying they don't take this seriously, yet created an issue out of thin air over a different opinion.

You either say things that make sense, or you don't, and you haven't said a single thing that makes sense.

But hey keep pretending you're not trying to get that last word 😂

  

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154. "https://www.fightersgeneration.com/np6/char/gifus/sagat-laughing2.gif"
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https://www.fightersgeneration.com/np6/char/gifus/sagat-laughing2.gif

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155. "I'm sure someone will click on that."
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And to summarize, again:

this is all because you have an issue me stating a pro wrestler wasn't quite GOAT material.

You can lob all the message board cliches you want, but nothing can change that.

  

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133. "OK, fine. Hart Foundation and the Bulldogs are Citizen Kane"
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The big tag teams of the era right around when they hit - Road Warriors, Rock n Roll, The Midnight, even the Rockers - were teams of similar dudes. There wasn't a lot to split Shawn and Marty (in HOW they wrestled; obviously history will show what the real difference was there). Hawk and Animal were going to hoss you to shit. Ricky Morton was going to take all the punishment in the world before he tagged in Gibson. Even Arn and Tully didn't have too much variation in how they wrestled (neither, for that matter, did the big three of the Attitude era). The Bulldogs and Hart Foundation changed that. And I'd say that the Bulldogs get remembered more fondly primarily because Dynamite's story is so tragic (and because he was a very clear influence on two of the Web's favorite wrestlers ever).

And yes, Bret was a generational talent, while Anvil stumbled around in shit gimmicks like Who. But when the time came to run the heel side of the Hart fam against Bret, Anvil was right there to be the consistent hoss platform for Owen. And his lack of singles success doesn't erase his importance in the Hart Foundation's run.

I'd still put them in the top 15-20 tag teams of all time, which is, yes, semantically speaking, one of the best to ever do it.

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135. "Agreed"
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The contrast in styles made the Hart Foundation more interesting to me than the teams where both guys did and said basically the same things. Anvil played his role beautifully in that team, IMO.

But even if one disagrees at how good he was individually, I don’t understand how the Hart Foundation aren’t right near the top of the all time great tag teams. I’d put them way up there. Like...top 5. They were a lynchpin of the division and probably the most consistent team for the longest time in WWF in a great era for tag wrestling. I’d only see the Steiners and Road Warriors as their competition from that era.

And maybe Hardys, Edge and Christian, and Dudleys with arguments from newer eras.

  

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116. "Ambrose came back looking like Haitch. "
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https://twitter.com/rantwithant/status/1029205560699367429?s=21

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118. "LMAO Dean came out like a Bushwacker"
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120. "his new look is odd."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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121. "Instead of looking like a guy playing crazy for tv"
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He looks like a crazy guy fresh off a bid.

  

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122. "old look sucks, new looks sucks, music sucks, matches suck"
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he sucks

  

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123. "He looked a little crisper out there "
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I know, 2-minute brawl segment, but the boot to Dolph and the Deeds on Drew looked like an actual attempt to fight someone.

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126. "I'm pretty sure this version of Dean has murdered somebody in a bar"
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Before casually sitting down for another drink

  

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125. "He looks like the walking manifestation of an angry Bill Burr rant"
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128. "lmfao"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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145. "Silver lining: he does look pretty ripped"
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But his head is fucking weird and it looks like his spine is at a 30 degree angle.

  

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156. "He does look like the son of Marduk from Tekken"
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I still contend that Bill Burr is the other father.

I haven't worked out the mechanics of how this happened. I'm only certain that this is how it happened.

  

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159. "Shoemaker called him Colin Quinn "
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and now I can't get that out of my mind.

  

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130. "SUMMERSLAM PREDICTIONS"
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posting early cause I'm traveling. you know the drill. picks will lock pretty early cause there are 3 preshow matches.

https://tinyurl.com/OKPSSlam

  

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152. "2/3 of this weekend is going to be incredibly good"
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The go-home setup for Sane/Baszler was awesome. Ciampa grinning like a shithead with the belt in the championship match video package was so perfectly timed. I still don't believe Angry Johnny, but whatever, that match is gonna be flames. Dream/EC3 will be great. Tag Match will be great.

The SummerSlam pre-show looks like it's going to be worth watching, even. I'm trepidatious about Brock/Roman, because, well, we've been fooled before with Brock, and the reports that he's having a Hogan meeting at 4 on Sunday with the brass isn't very heartening. That said, there's a series of possible events that could lead to KO holding the belt as the fade out image, which would be FANTASTIC.

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153. "Having Roman win only to be MiTB'd could possibly help him big time "
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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157. "Yep. KO would be the good heel to chase"
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But Braun aligning with Heyman could be interesting.

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158. "I don't really want to see this, but..."
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>But Braun aligning with Heyman could be interesting.

Braun cashing in before the match begins to make it a triple threat would be fire.

  

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160. "RE: I don't really want to see this, but..."
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>>But Braun aligning with Heyman could be interesting.
>
>Braun cashing in before the match begins to make it a triple
>threat would be fire.

I think this is what makes the most WWE sense. And yeah, a triple threat hossathon is $ on the table.

I just hope they don't do the thing where 2 folks gang up on Brock so he can lay around for 17 minutes before getting up and winning (again) thing. I'd be fine if they actually ganged up on Brock, wiped him the fuck out, and just go with whatever they're going with (hopefully Braun).

That way, Brock could show up 5 months from now and suplex some folks for revenge and it would actually be fun again.

  

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161. "I actually think KO cashing in after Reigns wins makes the most sense"
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I think a Braun win would pop the crowd, especially if he makes it a triple threat before the match starts, but I don't think it does anything to get Reigns over. If they have KO win the briefcase and cash in after a Reigns win I think it tells the best story and can get Roman over as he chases a sneaky heel champ (who maybe has Heyman's help).

With that said, all the stuff about that KO/Braun match stipulation feels like a swerve. It's been played up too much and I think (even) Braun will be smart enough not to get DQed. Not to mention it's pretty lame to put the briefcase on the line in the first place, so it already feels like a swerve.

On the other hand, Strowman doesn't need the briefcase to enter the title picture and KO would be a better choice... but if they felt that way they would've given Owens the briefcase in the first place, right???

All this is to say there are some interesting possibilities for an otherwise "just get it over with" match.

  

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162. "I think they felt like Braun needed a big win"
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He hasn't really had a "big match" win since Reigns in the Ambulance Match. He lost to Brock, was eliminated in the Chamber, didn't win the Rumble (GRR is ehhhh since they don't have him carrying around the Saudi Arabian Championship title), Wrestlemania was that bullshit. I think they felt like they needed it to keep him from cooling off.

Whereas KO is KO, and they feel they can fire him up whenever.

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163. "Velveteen Dream vs EC3 is a great program"
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Because Velveteen Dream is by far the coolest character in all of WWE and feels like the perfect superstar for the current social climate

and

EC3 is a spray tanned juicehead create-a-wrestler with clumsy offense who can’t sell. He looks and wrestles like a Nitro midcarder.

So VD beating EC3 is great booking

  

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175. "velveteen's coogi vest..."
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and the "call me up vince" on his tights. i love it all. i do hope they don't call him up right now though, i wanna see a few more feuds in nxt.

  

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164. "So the plans for the women's PPV are Alexa vs Trish and Ronda vs Nikki"
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Boy if this company ain't slam fucking retarded 😂😂😂😂

Sasha, Bayley and Asuka need to riot.

Vince just has to have his blondes and his big fake titties as the feature

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189. "Asuka's rumoured opponent is Lita"
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hmm.

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165. "jeff doing a moonsault onto the apron nah fam"
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166. "Where the fuck is Jeff Hardy buying those jeans in 2018?"
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Does he have an army of people on his payroll to pick through local Ross stores at each stop or what?

Did he win a lifetime supply of white label JNCO's in the late 90's?

I need an answer.

  

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173. "I almost thought about googling Jnco"
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But I dont want to get put on a watch list
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176. "he buys 'em at those ICP gigolo festivals. lol."
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167. "A Jeff Hardy match is essentially performance art that imitates his life"
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He gets a handle on the match, finds himself winning, and inevitably fucks everything up by doing something incredibly stupid.

  

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168. "RE: A Jeff Hardy match is essentially performance art that imitates his ..."
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>He gets a handle on the match, finds himself winning, and
>inevitably fucks everything up by doing something incredibly
>stupid.

Ha! This is it. I now assume it has been on purpose the whole time. Per NXT, I buy that WWE is capable of something like this.

  

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169. "MAN they need to get Road Dogg away from agenting the WWE title"
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like 95% of AJ's big feuds, that was a great match undermined by the bullshit thrown on top of it.

That said, the classic 80s NWA ending for Miz/Bryan was DELECTABLE.

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177. "are you saying.."
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their "ass bettaaaaa callllll someboddddyyyyyy". lol sorry.

  

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170. "That briefcase throw was by far the most impressive thing in that match"
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It was a perfect toss.

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171. "Good PPV last night, but the Boredom Era is now here"
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Way too many face champions to keep my interest...

Charlotte
Rollins
Rousey
Reigns
B Team
A.J. Styles

and one of the heel champs - Bludgeon Brothers - has the personality of sand. Thank goodness for Nakamura. The only thing that could keep my interest in the near future is one or two solid heel turns ( maybe boring ass Becky Lynch or Bayley) or at least let a decent heel get some good shine for a while (maybe Samoa Joe can get a title run)

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172. "Joe's about to have a great run.....he shined last nigh"
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RIP KO

We fucking had 3 squashes and the World Title defended 80 minutes into a 4 hour show....what are they doing but really why?

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174. "^^^^"
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given these guys' history and how that ended, i'm hoping this is a long lasting feud.

  

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190. "I said the 3 squashes on a SummerSlam PPV was terrible..."
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My buddy responded by saying "They all made sense".

No they phucking didn't.

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178. "is seth's role now..."
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basically the jericho role of fodder for the hardcore fans but not in the main event? i mean, i guess i can't complain, he's been entertaining as hell but damn i would love to see him get a major run again.

  

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179. "I can see him getting his run against Finn soon"
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Just really cant buy him against Brock or Braun.
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180. "you still suck chants. omg the crowd is ruthless."
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181. "It was GREAT...then...."
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they announce the Geritol match of Undertaker vs HHH. My interest disappeared that fast.

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182. "HHH still knows how to run his mouth far beyond his welcome"
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get the fuck off the stage clown.

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183. "Get ready for another month and a half of it..."
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184. "which one of you used to defend Baron Corbin? He's basura"
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186. "I've liked Corbin since he's come up"
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He isn't terrible in the ring...he's just terrible on the mic and he hasn't been a good character/gimmick. They put him in his most vulnerable spot - a big talking role, and he's a robot.

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187. "Me. Can't say there's a shred of anything worth defending right today "
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I don't agree that there was never a time where there wasn't potential, because I think there absolutely was.

All I'll say is that WWE has a habit of muting a lot of the natural strengths of their talent, instead favoring contrivances.

For people who are oozing ability, it's bad enough. When you're green and those strengths are limited as it is, well....

That's how you get Baron Corbin.

  

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193. "I was on the Corbin train too"
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But 1) you can't have someone wrestle dressed like a sexy waiter (c) Mero and 2) stooge characters in general never work to elevate a guy.

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195. "lmao i tried to tell folks he's a scrub. dude is channel change status."
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185. "sasha and bailey reactions during ronda's segment are gold."
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188. "Will The Shield ever *not* be magical?"
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191. "The last 10 minutes of that show were flawless"
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The idea that a Strowman cash-in is an automatic win is just so great. Don’t over think it, obviously if he cashes in he wins. Lesnar knew it Sunday and the Shield knew it last night. It’s phenomenal.

  

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192. "Also, Dean fucking HOUSING Ziggler was fantastic"
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I'm totally here for all-business Ambrose tossing fools around.

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194. "Vince reeeeeeally wants cheers for Roman lol"
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196. "Pains me to say it but I'm glad we have Roman as champ"
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Just to get the title off of Brock and have someone who will be on tv almost weekly.

I'm not one for title defenses on every tv show, I feel like it cheapens the PPV's and the champ. I feel like the biggest title should only be defended on tv rarely. However I do like the champ being around, mostly to talk his shit, or to be in tag matches that help develop his story. I'm digging them having the shield keep Bruan of Roman because they know Bruan has a huge chance at winning. This will either make them heels, or make the crowd cheer for them not taking shit and delivering good beat downs on a guy that is seemingly unstoppable.

My question now is how is going to be the one to take it off of Roman? Bruan would make the most sense but that's why I almost don't want to see it happen.

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197. "Roman in a vacuum is dope"
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He's a good-looking dude who makes everything look super intense, especially during a finishing sprint. As the final boss of The Shield, where Seth and Dean can do the talking, it works. But since the breakup, he's been given poochie-level promos to deliver, and his matches are booked in that Hogan/Cena "ignore everything that happened in the previous 16 minutes, it's time for me to bring it home" style.

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198. "they've been going w/ long title runs..."
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with the majority of their belts. they waited so long to get roman this chance, i don't see them getting the belt off him unless he really screws it up. w

you've got some built in feuds that will take you all the way to mania. braun, shield break up. but other than braun, there's no one else who i can see them giving the belt to. my guess is he holds it til mania or longer, than someone from the draft comes over to eventually win it (joe? aj after losing to joe? somehow get joe a run dammit!)

  

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199. "But Roman can't talk and has ZERO Charisma "
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200. "Nah he’s a great talent, just used wrong"
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They’re trying to fit a Samoan peg into a Cena hole

He’s not Cena, he’s what Batista would be if he were an actual athlete

Talk less, do more, wrestle physical matches

He’s obviously a star, but they’ve done him no favors creatively

  

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201. "Roman's charisma was a HUGE part of why the Shield worked"
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211. "I don't know what you see. He can't talk for nothing. "
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The art of talking is what made the Rock, Stone Cold, Ric Flair, Hulk, HHH, Shawn Michaels, The Hit Man, Sting, Etc. all memorable great legends. If they couldn't talk they would only be good - not great.

Roman is not great. He's just good.
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213. "hmmm....certainly not Sting"
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He was at his most popular when he didn’t talk at all for over a year.

Roman has never been a good talker, but I also think he had a certain level of charisma just on how he acted, when he was in the Shield.

  

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214. "RE: hmmm....certainly not Sting"
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>He was at his most popular when he didn’t talk at all for
>over a year.
>
>Roman has never been a good talker, but I also think he had a
>certain level of charisma just on how he acted, when he was in
>the Shield.

If we're piling on, Shawn was a shaky promo too. He was the king shit in the ring though.

Even Bret was more of a great character than a great promo.

Roman is fine when he has real matches against even decent rasslers. Brock was the biggest problem with Roman. The plan to have Brock be the roadblock was okay methinks, but Brock not being on the show hardly ever just cockblocked any momentum that could come. Add in that he rarely did anything on his Raw appearances and it was a shitshow. Braun is basically alternate Brock. He shows up, yells, blows shit up, yells again, then leaves. And he's usually smart enough to avoid the obvious traps. It's great.

It is also gonna be a damn party when the Wyatts turn out the lights to save Strowman a week or two from now.

  

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215. "RE: hmmm....certainly not Sting? What! You Crazy!"
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>He was at his most popular when he didn’t talk at all for
>over a year.
>

You must not know about the NWA years! Sting was on par with Ric when it came to spitting that Show Game. The years when he was silent was a gimmick that played well, but it was not even close to when Sting was killing the verbal wordplay in the NWA




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217. "Like this?"
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https://youtu.be/fD8qvFiHlOc

Certainly it was on par with Flair

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218. "I didn’t watch Sting until the early 90s"
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Probably 91-92. I don’t remember him being particularly memorable on the mic.

Regardless, he still had a ton of charisma as a performer.

  

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219. "Lmao Sting was widely criticized AT THE TIME for his weak promo "
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>You must not know about the NWA years! Sting was on par with
>Ric

There was never a time when this was true. Never. Not ever. Sting is easily a bottom tier main event or in both promos and ring workers. He's top tier charisma and "it" factor, but despite his considerable strengths, his talking and ring work are absolutely below par.

This was the perception of him at the time, by the way, and there was very little confidence in him to carry things in any program that didn't include Flair.

The years when he
>was silent was a gimmick that played well

Played "well"? As much as you overstate his prior promo work, you understate the "Crow" run. Until the Hogan match at Starcade, it was, and remains, one of the single best executed storylines in the history of the business, all without saying a word.

And yes..I do mean business. As in $$.Sting not talking was not only his best work, it proved vital to extending the heat of the NWO run, which on it's own was rife with issues very soon after its formation.

He was one the one thing that made the NWO visibly, consistently fearful. DDP was running hot, and Crow Sting gave him an additional rub. It gave Luger meaningful screen time.

Sting had


but it was not even
>close to when Sting was killing the verbal wordplay in the
>NWA

Crow Sting objectively, verifiably eclipsed everything he had done prior.

There's nothing on his Captain Crunch resume that can compete with anything beyond warm fuzzy "back on my day" ruminations. Crow lapped drumline Sting in a bad way.

Surf Warrior Sting would have died an awkward, painful death after the NWO game change and everyone with a brain knew it.

  

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222. "Lol I even linked your man an example"
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Sting on par with Flair? LMAO

Case wild for that one. Ain't no way.

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223. "This dude said &quot;you must not know!....killing the verbal word play!..."
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About a guy whose weak promo ability has been the principal criticism from jump, with his limited in-ring ability a close second, and he actually put him in the same breath as the God Tier/MtRushmore of Hogan/Rock/Austin/Flair.

And included Bret as another so-called "great" in that category. Its baffling.

  

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220. "Bret was a mediocre promo. Talking was absolutely not what made him a le..."
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>The art of talking is what made the Rock, Stone Cold, Ric
>Flair, Hulk, HHH, Shawn Michaels, The Hit Man, Sting, Etc. all
>memorable great legends. If they couldn't talk they would only
>be good - not great.

Welp, Bret was merely decent until his anti-American turn and Sting's greatest stretch involves him not saying a word.

Shawn was a mercurial promo who could eviscerate someone one night and come across like an awkward cornball the next. Talking was definitely part of his overall formula, but he's got a lot of misses.

Punk, Jericho and Piper are far more accurate examples IMO.

>Roman is not great. He's just good.

Talking wasn't what made him great in the Shield, and he WAS/IS great as part of the Shield.

  

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221. "You said Sting, Michaels and Hart, but didn't mention Savage???"
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Stop it.

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232. "I mean, he might as well have mentioned Warrior"
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233. "hell, I'd say that would have been better"
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He'd still be wrong, just not *as* wrong, and would actually have something to defend.

Warrior wound up with an oddly memorable promo style that stood out as larger than life.

Sting was animated but couldn't really pull off anything particularly notable. I mean, you understood what he was saying, but that was about it. No lifting his hands to the heavens and talking like he's possessed by some spirit.

Personally I'd take the guy spitting bizarre, meandering eccentricity over bland coherence.

  

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234. "That's fair; Warrior's terribleness was just refreshed for me"
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Been listening to the Wrestle Me podcast, which is a lot of fun (Wrestlemania/Summerslam through the eyes of a seasoned wrestling fan and a complete newbie), and they played a clip of one of Warrior's Summerslam promos in a recent episode. MY WORD was it incoherent.

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228. "Charisma and talking are two different things"
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Roman was the bad motherfucker that threw people through tables, looked menacing and said “believe that” to punctuate promos. The point was that in that group he didn’t HAVE to talk to be a draw then.

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202. "2 smackdown observations"
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1. zelina is alexa sized. i didnt realize that
2. creative made becky the heel instead of charlotte. how do you end up w/ such a dumb idea when their feud practically writes itself.

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203. "Becky as a heel helps her"
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She's so incredibly boring and dry that she needs the attitude change for people to care about her. (either Sasha or Bayley need the same treatment IMO)

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206. "Maybe. why can’t she just be a pissed off and aggressive face though?"
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Why can’t a face have a chip on their shoulder, especially when they’ve got a reason?

It’s amazing how you’ve pretty much got to be a heel to do anything cool and likable. It’s like ever since they neutered Cena in like 2005, they haven’t known how to book a face.

  

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207. "The fans are cheering for her so who cares what it's called?"
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Becky has a chip and the crowd will cheer her

Charlotte won't get why everyone is mad at her, she's just taking her opportunities she's given and capitalizing, it's not her fault she is a Flair while the crowd boos her.

They can call Becky a heel all they want, but that won't be the story we watch.

  

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208. "It matters because of how the writing will bear out"
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And because if she's not getting booed, then she's not "doing her job." And that's how you get Handsome Rusev on the preshow instead of the upper part of the card.

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209. "yup, when she claimed that “you all cheered when Charlotte won”..."
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That let me know that they’re not going to just tell the story and let the crowd cheer who they want. Because...they absolutely did not cheer when Charlotte won.

It reminds me of Christian/Orton a little bit, when Orton took the title immediately after Christian won it. They turned the wrong guy in that one too.

  

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204. "PLEASE GIVE JOE THE BELT"
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"Daddy already went night night"...LOLOL

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210. ""Oh Weeennnddddyyyyyyyy!!""
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216. "I still think Miz is who takes it from AJ"
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The win over Bryan seemed to seal that for me to.

He deserves a run as much as anyone else, I can totally see him getting the belt and Bryan finally beating him at Mania. That's a great 2nd main event.

  

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226. "I think the title goes to Joe, then Bryan, then Miz, then Mania"
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At least, that's what I see as the logical sequence to get there. I think the story works best with Bryan chasing Miz for the title, but after Miz takes it from him.

Joe takes it from AJ at HIAC, Bryan gets it from Joe at the December PPV, Miz screws Bryan for it at the Rumble, and they work that program through Mania.

  

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227. "I think they skip Joe and Bryan and go directly to Miz then Bryan"
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*****

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205. "Great. Another face champion."
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This is gonna suck for a while.

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212. "I'm actually in favour of some face champs being honest..."
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I sometimes feel that WWE plays it safe with heels like Miz and Bliss. Roman's already in a really interesting spot with Braun, AJ has to be mere weeks away from dropping the belt to Joe (even though we all said that for like 3 months with Shinsuke), Rhonda now has to compete way more than the four matches she's so far had this year...

Personally, I'm happy with the landscape for now.

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224. "I really can't wait for Matt Riddle on NXT TV"
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That bro is going to be an absolute STAR.

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225. "Mat Ridle/TVD ---probably wont suck "
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229. "The iiconics are pure so bad it's good territory. "
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The good being they're both really hot. Bless the bookers for this iconics vs Naomi feud

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230. "zelina is an excellent manager too."
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smackdown and raw dont feel like theyre coming from the same company

SD is so much better.

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231. "RE: zelina is an excellent manager too."
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>smackdown and raw dont feel like theyre coming from the same
>company
>
>SD is so much better.
>
>

Raw is disappointing because it can be so good now that they have an active champion who can have good matches with anyone who isn’t full of shit in the ring. And Reigns is such a fun chess piece to work with now that the shield fellows are all healthy and doing well at the same time. Even the mid card could be printing money if WWE got the lead out and did things with them. They need their ass kicked for how they’ve done things with Elias.

  

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235. "Watching the ALL IN pre-show"
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Crowd is live, and I am ready for this card!

The Briscoes vs S.C.U. didn't make the main card?? Wow...

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241. "What a great weekend!!!! Place was full from start to finish "
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236. "they stuck braun w/ beavis and butthead"
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is this for real? is this a decision this company made?

or course. because it's stupid as fuck.

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237. "I accept putting Strowman with McIntyre and Ziggler"
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as being a better idea than trotting the same old recycled horseshit like the Shield and the Bellas.

I guess the point is to make Strowman look heel-ish so they'll stop booing the hell out of Reigns (it would take some super Saiyan heel work to do that IMO). For me, that's a stupid assed idea.

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238. "Was I the only one that watched All In this weekend?"
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The card was pretty good...a little rough around the edges, but the action and the matches themselves were as good as any WWE PPV this year. Kenny Omega vs Pentagon was excellent as was Cody vs Nick Aldis. The only reservations I had about the card was it seemed too ROH-centric...if there was more balance between the other promotions in terms of contributions of tlent, it would have been amazing IMO.

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239. "I watched it live"
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Was a very solid card and wrestling wise it was on par or above anything wwe has put on this year. Cody and the Bucks did a hell of a job and I think this show far exceeded expectations for it basically being an indy show.

I heard Okada vs. Marty went 12 minutes over and that's why they had to rush the Young Bucks match at the end.

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240. "I was there, had a blast"
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It may have been ROH centric, but that's primarily because the best indie dudes have at least a foot in ROH. They had the only NWA-related guy, some people big in Impact, NJPW's GOAT, etc.

What it really ended up being was the culmination of a lot of storylines on Being The Elite, so if you weren't familiar with what's going on with the Bucks and them's weekly YouTube series, you were probably lost at a few moments or didn't fully appreciate a few of the others.

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242. "I was too, had a great time"
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At the time I didnt think Okada/Marty was long I thought it was the Street fight that screwed up the timing. After watching it again, the match feels long. And god damn at all the shit those dudes fit in, in 10 minutes. Loved the whole weekend there.

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243. "I'm actually glad the main event needed to be short"
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I loved that it was just 12 minutes of non-stop spots, it was a blast.

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244. "oh no more Okada and less Young Bucks oh noooooooo"
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Selassie I God
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245. "In your opinion, did it come off better live or on TV?"
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Just curious...I know people that like live shows better and some that rather watch at home, and since you did both....

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Ceej
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247. "I dont think either was bad, the broadcast shed a little more light on a..."
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But feeling it was pretty incredible to witness. It felt like a game changer and it delivered in my opinion.

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Selassie I God
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246. "RE: I was there, had a blast"
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>It may have been ROH centric, but that's primarily because
>the best indie dudes have at least a foot in ROH. They had the
>only NWA-related guy, some people big in Impact, NJPW's GOAT,
>etc.
>
>What it really ended up being was the culmination of a lot of
>storylines on Being The Elite, so if you weren't familiar with
>what's going on with the Bucks and them's weekly YouTube
>series, you were probably lost at a few moments or didn't
>fully appreciate a few of the others.


I see what you're saying, and I agree with you. I guess my thing is for a PPV of this type, I'd rather see matches that I wouldn't see on regular TV (which is why I can't stand WWE PPVs when they basically have the match 2-3 times on RAW/SD in the weeks leading up). For example, Briscoes vs SCU can happen at any ROH show. I'd rather see Briscoes vs Guerillas of Destiny or Briscoes vs Evil and Sanada.

Please don't take the ROH-centric comment as a diss...I'm an old school wrestling fan, especially of the old Philly promotions (pre-WWE ECW, ROH, and Combat Zone Wrestling). I guess I was just nitpicking to make a 8,5 show into a 10.

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248. "Been watching in bits and pieces"
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Penta/Omega was everything I thought it would be. I was actually jumping out of my seat at those kickouts. But Cody/Aldis really dragged to me, especially after the ref's "X" spot. So far enjoying the show but I haven't finished yet.

  

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magilla vanilla
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249. "Dream/Gargano was hot motherfuckin fire. "
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Shades of Zayn/Neville with Gargano debating whether to go full Ciampa (and falling for Dream’s mindgames in the process). Goddamn can Dream print money if they just let him when he gets to the main.

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250. "the best thing to happen to Dream was Cena's endorsement"
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Cena recently declared Velveteen Dream "the one"

I think that type of endorsement can prevent Dream from becoming Adam Rose or No Way Jose

  

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magilla vanilla
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251. "He just walks the character. It's so great."
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252. "Dream is destined to be a joke character unless Vince croaks"
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before his callup.

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253. "idk man, i think he's undeniable."
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he's got IT if you will.

  

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255. "he's got it. but lots of people have had it"
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and we've seen one after another after another after another get fumbled and fizzle out, while they shove their pet projects down our throats.

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263. "Unfortunately, I agree..."
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I hope I'm proved wrong but I can't imagine that Vince will see nothing more in Dream than being Goldust 2.0.

I used to look forward to NXT stars being called up but I genuinely dread it now.

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256. "Nakamura was Austin level over in NXT"
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Had sold out arenas singing his theme and chanting holy shit at his entrance alone

Having It means nothing

  

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257. "It's too bad that outside of his debut w/ Sami"
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Naka wasn't much after the music stopped and lights came back on.

He rode an amazing entrance as long as he could, but once you get to the main roster and you make that entrance once a week plus a Sunday per month it loses its specialness.

I only caught the very tail end of his NJPW run but quite frankly he hasn't lived up to any of the hype. His entrance is top notch, but he can't cut a promo (not sure why they are even trying with him, but that's another story) and outside of his match against Cena and some moments against AJ (who is impossible to have a bad match against) he just hasn't moved the needle for me at all since moving up to SmackDown.

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magilla vanilla
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258. "The difference is that Nak was already established. "
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And could sleepwalk to a passable match (the booking really fucked him in that AJ series). However, Kreative still overestimates the language barrier (Nak cut pretty decent promos with Sami in NXT, for example). There's also a lot of blank filling that they leave out when they advance Nak. He's "The Artist," according to Cole, but what does that mean? The Great One/The Brahma Bull was evocative of what the Rock did in the ring. The Texas Rattlesnake fit Austin. Excellence of Execution worked to explain Bret. They haven't established anything with Nak other than "fly-ass entrance" and "likes nut shots."

Dream is over as fuck, walks the gimmick, AND is frequently putting on EXCELLENT matches in his spots. You can watch him with the sound off and know exactly what he's about. He doesn't hamfist his catchphrases (Kona Reeves, looking at you buddy).

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259. "lol"
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>He doesn't hamfist his catchphrases (Kona Reeves, looking at you
>buddy).

I don't get this shit at all. The finest? ok?
Then why you got that generic ass ring gear and haven't looked fresh yet.

Changed dudes character and he already needs another character change. Dude is "go check the fridge" material to me. One of the more skippable parts of NXT.


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magilla vanilla
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260. "Dude went from vignette videos to holding a Kassius Ohno L. SMH."
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261. "and tbh Nak isn't as hungry"
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Not taking anything away from him. His body of work speaks for itself and he's earned the right to get some money while not having to work strong style. But Dream just demands the spotlight and is hungry af.

Things could change. He's 23 and we've certainly seen people fizzle out after a fast start, but this one feels different. I sincerely believe they struck gold in a way they haven't since The Rock.

  

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262. "I buy Dream as a star"
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