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Orbit_Established
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"Wait : Pippen lead a Jordan-less Bulls to 55-27 and ECF in 1994????"


  

          


(And shoulda gone to the NBA Finals, TBH, took Knicks
to 7)

I thought Jordan was leading bums and losers to titles?

Please discuss.


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SEMIFINALS!!!
Jun 13th 2018
1
he's the Dwight Shrute of Bron cysage
Jun 13th 2018
2
RE: SEMIFINALS!!!
Jun 13th 2018
11
NOTICIAS DE ULTIMA HORA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jun 13th 2018
3
archive
Jun 13th 2018
4
the privilege of playing on an all-time great team & competent org-chart
Jun 13th 2018
5
GIVE HIM TONI KUKOC AND IT'S A WRAP
Jun 13th 2018
7
RE: GIVE HIM TONI KUKOC AND IT'S A WRAP
Jun 13th 2018
8
RE: GIVE HIM TONI KUKOC AND IT'S A WRAP
Jun 14th 2018
14
      because he was a Bulls fan from '91-'93 and '96-'98
Jun 14th 2018
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      RE: GIVE HIM TONI KUKOC AND IT'S A WRAP
Jun 16th 2018
59
'95 Kucoc would have
Jun 14th 2018
40
He had this in Miami and went 2-2 FOH
Jun 14th 2018
17
lol
Jun 14th 2018
19
welp.. lol
Jun 14th 2018
21
jordan's Bulls wasn't beating that spurs team either
Jun 14th 2018
24
prime bulls stomp all over them and i loved that spurs team.
Jun 14th 2018
27
spit that game to these lames!
Jun 14th 2018
28
goddamn y'all gotta stop listening to sports talk
Jun 16th 2018
53
      RE: goddamn y'all gotta stop listening to sports talk
Jun 16th 2018
54
      lol got it, u completely clueless. just watch games before u post.
Jun 16th 2018
60
           absolutely no counter argument. Got it.
Jun 16th 2018
61
                u said the suns were the only good team lol. the discussion ends here.
Jun 17th 2018
62
PLEAS COPPED! LMAO wow
Jun 14th 2018
36
add in his other pair of all nba teammates and its 3-3
Jun 14th 2018
25
never happened! 8 straight finals in the wack ass east tho = goat!
Jun 14th 2018
26
I dunno I mean playing these games is getting boring
Jun 14th 2018
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      RE: I dunno I mean playing these games is getting boring
Jun 15th 2018
44
           Hmmmm ...
Jun 15th 2018
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                RE: Hmmmm ...
Jun 16th 2018
57
bro, there's still time
Jun 13th 2018
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RE: bro, there's still time
Jun 13th 2018
13
Check the archives. I’m sure you said something about it in 1994.
Jun 13th 2018
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RE: Check the archives. I’m sure you said something about it in 1994.
Jun 13th 2018
10
Yikes. This one hurt me. Time for another break, OE
Jun 13th 2018
12
Jambone, you need to come out of the closet
Jun 14th 2018
16
Google "Blazers Pippen"
Jun 14th 2018
15
Serious question...WTF happened to homie
Jun 14th 2018
32
      that Blazers squad was loaded, so he played a different role
Jun 16th 2018
55
      he had back surgery and was 33
Jun 16th 2018
56
Please discuss shoulda gone to the NBA Finals, TBH
Jun 14th 2018
18
LoLz
Jun 14th 2018
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lol
Jun 14th 2018
22
he really ain't come back to the thread. SMH.
Jun 14th 2018
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best move at this point.
Jun 14th 2018
29
DC in a few weeks. Let's have dinner. I'm serious.
Jun 14th 2018
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      lol...aight
Jun 14th 2018
38
*patiently awaits the BWAHAHAHAHA reply*
Jun 14th 2018
30
*leisurely roasts a hotdog on a stick*
Jun 14th 2018
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Good looks...y'all answered my question. I KNEW that couldn't be true.
Jun 14th 2018
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Watch this...
Jun 14th 2018
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RE: Watch this...
Jun 14th 2018
42
Pippenomics is a zero sum game (c) The Money Man
Jun 14th 2018
39
Wait...if Bron smashed Beyonce...I might take it all back lol
Jun 15th 2018
43
Nope - Vex didn't see them cavorting in nightclubs so that's impossible.
Jun 15th 2018
45
Pippen is not a HOF w/o 23
Jun 15th 2018
46
When the debate was about Kobe, the number was set to 7
Jun 15th 2018
48
      i remember the partying in 12-13
Jun 15th 2018
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           8.
Jun 15th 2018
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           Haha
Jun 16th 2018
51
           Oh, if Lebron has Pippen, he got 5 at least. (easily)
Jun 16th 2018
52
           he's got more than Wilt - as many as Bird.
Jun 16th 2018
58

bentagain
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1. "SEMIFINALS!!!"
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You clearly don't read posts

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you can't understand it with an explanation

  

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2. "he's the Dwight Shrute of Bron cysage"
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ASSISTANT(to the)MANAGER

EASTERN CONFERENCE(semi)FINALS

<------- La Potencia

  

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11. "RE: SEMIFINALS!!!"
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Why read posts if you don't watch the games?

I'm from the lost black tribe of Israel, the Yos

http://coolehmag.com/frontEnd/

  

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3. "NOTICIAS DE ULTIMA HORA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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4. "archive"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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5. "the privilege of playing on an all-time great team & competent org-chart"
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Imagine LeBron on that kind of a caliber team?

In Bron's last year w/ Cleveland during his first stint - they won 61 games. The very next year they win 19 games! lol

yiiiiiiikes.

Further, in Bron's last season with Miami - they won 54 games and made it to the Finals. The very next year? 37 wins and didn't even make the playoffs.

Meanwhile Jordan was cushioned by the greatest Robin of all-time and had championship pieces all around him. He leaves - the Bulls experience very subtle drop-off and still compete at a very high-level. In Jordan's last season w/ the Bulls prior to taking a hiatus - the Bulls won 57 games. The year after with Pippen at the helm?
They win 55 games! Great team.

#MustBeNice

  

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7. "GIVE HIM TONI KUKOC AND IT'S A WRAP"
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Oddly '94 Kukoc WOULD have challenged Love as the second best player in this Cavs team

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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8. "RE: GIVE HIM TONI KUKOC AND IT'S A WRAP"
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>Oddly '94 Kukoc WOULD have challenged Love as the second best
>player in this Cavs team

sad but true.

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14. "RE: GIVE HIM TONI KUKOC AND IT'S A WRAP"
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>>Oddly '94 Kukoc WOULD have challenged Love as the second
>best
>>player in this Cavs team
>
>sad but true.
>
>-->

Why sad? Kukoc was a damn good basketball player, especially at that point in his career.

  

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41. "because he was a Bulls fan from '91-'93 and '96-'98"
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<------- La Potencia

  

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59. "RE: GIVE HIM TONI KUKOC AND IT'S A WRAP"
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>Why sad? Kukoc was a damn good basketball player, especially
>at that point in his career.

Kukoc was quite good - but the notion that you'd win a title w/ him as your 2nd best player is suspect.

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40. "'95 Kucoc would have"
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'94 was his first year in the NBA + was still adjusting to the league. '95 though, yeah.


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17. "He had this in Miami and went 2-2 FOH"
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<---The Coon Chicken Inn
(Salt Lake City, Portland, Seattle)

  

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19. "lol"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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21. "welp.. lol"
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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24. "jordan's Bulls wasn't beating that spurs team either"
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and the Mavs year was his first year in Miami. They got outcoached

  

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27. "prime bulls stomp all over them and i loved that spurs team."
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>and the Mavs year was his first year in Miami. They got
>outcoached

lol many things happened, being outcoached was not the main problem.
one of the main problems was lebron shrinking in those finals which people are still wondering about to this day. that was classic passive-lebron.

a year later it was bosh saving bron's ass against bsoton in gm7.
and ray allen saved his ass against the spurs with an all-time miracle sequence.

great player. just not the goat yall want him to be.

''i went from bashful to asshole to international''- CdoubleO

  

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28. "spit that game to these lames!"
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STAND OUT HAND OUTS: http://basquiatwhenipaint.tumblr.com

TWEET ME: @PROMO206

  

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53. "goddamn y'all gotta stop listening to sports talk"
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Mavs won that series on the defensive end due to using the zone and forcing Bron to get the ball out of his hands and making the *right* play.
Spolestra got undressed that series. Bron could have been more aggressive, sure, but that series got won by scheme.

ONLY good team the Bulls beat in the finals was the Suns.

  

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54. "RE: goddamn y'all gotta stop listening to sports talk"
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>Mavs won that series on the defensive end due to using the
>zone and forcing Bron to get the ball out of his hands and
>making the *right* play.
>Spolestra got undressed that series. Bron could have been more
>aggressive, sure, but that series got won by scheme.
>
>ONLY good team the Bulls beat in the finals was the Suns.

Lol, cmon.

Blazers and Sonics were “good”. Blazers were in their second finals in 3 years.

Lakers were good too, but they were shot when Worthy got hurt. That would’ve been a good series otherwise IMO.

  

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60. "lol got it, u completely clueless. just watch games before u post."
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all this shit u type is a waste of time.
btw, mofo was the third best player on the heat in that series. FOH
no escapin this.





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61. "absolutely no counter argument. Got it."
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Cool.

  

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62. "u said the suns were the only good team lol. the discussion ends here. "
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you want me to watch old games with you?
no counter arguments for that type of cluelesness from me. that's like arguing with those flat earth people.

btw, lebron disappeared in the mavs finals.
yeah right, mavs the only team that figured out how to stop lebron lol
are you the guy that put the soft cast on lebron's hand before the presser?
FOH

''i went from bashful to asshole to international''- CdoubleO

  

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36. "PLEAS COPPED! LMAO wow"
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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25. "add in his other pair of all nba teammates and its 3-3"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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26. "never happened! 8 straight finals in the wack ass east tho = goat!"
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''i went from bashful to asshole to international''- CdoubleO

  

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37. "I dunno I mean playing these games is getting boring"
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It was a lot more fun and easy to bash the fuck out of Kobestan and their weak arguments like ZOMG BRON LOST TO DALLAS when their team as defending champions got sodomized in a four-game sweep the same season.

The Jordan thing, ehhh, the only thing you can really say is that his peak was diluted by expansion but in terms of his individual performance, it's pretty much beyond reproach. Similarly with LeBron the same is true and all that can be said is that generally he hasn't had the very best team top to bottom in the league. It is starting to reek of one of those eternal, pointless arguments unless the Kang keeps going and in the right situation to boot.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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44. "RE: I dunno I mean playing these games is getting boring"
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>It was a lot more fun and easy to bash the fuck out of
>Kobestan and their weak arguments like ZOMG BRON LOST TO
>DALLAS when their team as defending champions got sodomized in
>a four-game sweep the same season.

true.

>The Jordan thing, ehhh, the only thing you can really say is
>that his peak was diluted by expansion but in terms of his
>individual performance, it's pretty much beyond reproach.
>Similarly with LeBron the same is true and all that can be
>said is that generally he hasn't had the very best team top to
>bottom in the league. It is starting to reek of one of those
>eternal, pointless arguments unless the Kang keeps going and
>in the right situation to boot.

yea I more/less agree. Thing is: I still have Jordan as GOAT - and Bron as 1(b) (which most would say is #2). But the notion that Jordan's resume is unblemished simply because he never lost in the Finals is a lazy analysis - as is not acknowledging the nuances of team dynamics and playing with all-time great talent.


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47. "Hmmmm ..."
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http://dsz7vodgjx60a.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/bil-wilt-lakers.jpg

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57. "RE: Hmmmm ..."
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>http://dsz7vodgjx60a.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/bil-wilt-lakers.jpg

It's a shame that I wasn't able to watch Wilt (before my time) - and it's an even bigger shame that it's hard to re-capture his greatness as there wasn't really any replay/coverage of him that can be easily accessed - so I just have to take people's word for his dominance. I've got him in my top 5 - mainly because of deference to the mythic history of him - and because you can't just fake the kind of stats and output that he achieved.

But I wish I could've seen him in his prime.

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6. "bro, there's still time"
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...private when I fly, ball out like Bron do. You in the game, but you sit n' coach like Tyronn Lue - Royce

  

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13. "RE: bro, there's still time"
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Indeed there is — to apologize to LeBron James.
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9. "Check the archives. I’m sure you said something about it in 1994."
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I remember you saying something like...

“Pippen is better without Jordan. He’s the real Alpha.



I’m enjoying this Papya and Kiwi Capri Sun.....






It’s so delicious.




















You Mad?















I’m about to go watch Duck Tales.









MJ is a non curve hitting fraud.


















I miss David Dinkins.














Still Mad?

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10. "RE: Check the archives. I’m sure you said something about it in 1994."
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WOULD READ AGAIN

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12. "Yikes. This one hurt me. Time for another break, OE"
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A long one.

You need to compose yourself.

  

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16. "Jambone, you need to come out of the closet"
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15. "Google "Blazers Pippen""
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32. "Serious question...WTF happened to homie"
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If people are going to assume MJ wasn't shit without Pip...WTF happened to him when he left CHI?

It was like overnight...dude went from one of the best...to a ring chasing vet trying to squeeze every ounce out of a career

He was not THAT good in HOU or POR...and basically became a defense first kinda player...?

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55. "that Blazers squad was loaded, so he played a different role"
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didn't need to do as much in the scheme as he did in chicago.

  

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56. "he had back surgery and was 33"
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Those last playoffs and finals in Chicago, it seemed like he was gutting it out but didn’t have it physically like he used to and was limited. Then he had back surgery that summer.

Still a smart and skilled player, but that athleticism wasn’t what it was pre-back problems.

  

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18. "Please discuss shoulda gone to the NBA Finals, TBH"
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20. "LoLz"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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22. "lol"
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lebron stans almost more pressed to change the narative than lebron himself with his corny press conference exit.

''i went from bashful to asshole to international''- CdoubleO

  

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23. "he really ain't come back to the thread. SMH. "
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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29. "best move at this point."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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34. "DC in a few weeks. Let's have dinner. I'm serious. "
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I'm serious. I'll inbox you.

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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38. "lol...aight"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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30. "*patiently awaits the BWAHAHAHAHA reply*"
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31. "*leisurely roasts a hotdog on a stick*"
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______________________________
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33. "Good looks...y'all answered my question. I KNEW that couldn't be true. "
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Bulls were too ass cheeks for that, Pippen was some shit

  

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35. "Watch this..."
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Jordan actually made his teammates better...he pushed them to improve and aim for excellence...even sometimes at the expense of alienating them (Kerr). And they still loved and revered him for it. They all worked harder because of and for him and when he took his break...that success was still sustainable...to a degree.

They needed him to win it all.

And mind you, they added some offensive firepower they didn't have the year prior in Kukoc which helped ease the offensive burden and BJ Armstrong developed (thanks to MJ as well).

While on the other hand, Bron is like a f*cking black hole of dependency. He refuses to take his foot off of the usage pedal because he's hella pressed to correct the mistakes of Finals past, as he chases a ghost he can only catch by winning.

So when his stat hounding ass departs a city, it's worse for ware BECAUSE he was there. He has to make every pass, get every rebound, score a bulk of the points. Yet, he wanted to run away from taking the blame and STILL does (broken hand cuz you punched a wall in the midst of the finals?...you f*cking idiot).

So instead of his teammates actually getting better because of his presence, they flail and flop when he leaves because of his excessive need to be depended on.

Playoff Bron is essentially the non-scowling version of Westbrook. He, in essence, makes his team mates LAZY and less than they could actually be. But because he does, it masks all the deficits of the squad and so they win, with the east being so weak, and it worked well enough to get them to the finals, where 'anything can happen'. A suspension or injury and tides change rapidly.

And let's stop acting like LeBron James is coachable. He's not. He's likable, talented and a cash cow so organizations let him do what he wants. Coaches consult him and it started as a rookie because the Cavs had no idea how to handle a talent that bright.

Even Jordan had to be coached up and change his approach a bit to be more successful. But because Bron is uncoachable, he's fallen short of what he could have been.

So, with that said, LeBronon, pray that your king goes somewhere that has a few other allstars that he's comfortable with and coach willing to shrink and let Bron run the show. Because father time stalking him and he's running out of opportunities. The league is targeting both him and the Warriors and they've almost caught up with Bron.

Right today, there's only a handful of scenarios that gets LeBron 2 more rings. And even THOSE are shrinking.

Ultimately, history respects winners and accomplishments not losers and excuses.

You want this throne...come take it.

Otherwise, keep crying about teammates and sit beneath it for all time.

<---The Coon Chicken Inn
(Salt Lake City, Portland, Seattle)

  

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42. "RE: Watch this..."
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>Jordan actually made his teammates better...he pushed them to
>improve and aim for excellence...even sometimes at the expense
>of alienating them (Kerr). And they still loved and revered
>him for it. They all worked harder because of and for him and
>when he took his break...that success was still
>sustainable...to a degree.
>
>They needed him to win it all.
>
>And mind you, they added some offensive firepower they didn't
>have the year prior in Kukoc which helped ease the offensive
>burden and BJ Armstrong developed (thanks to MJ as well).
>
>While on the other hand, Bron is like a f*cking black hole of
>dependency. He refuses to take his foot off of the usage
>pedal because he's hella pressed to correct the mistakes of
>Finals past, as he chases a ghost he can only catch by
>winning.
>
>So when his stat hounding ass departs a city, it's worse for
>ware BECAUSE he was there. He has to make every pass, get
>every rebound, score a bulk of the points. Yet, he wanted to
>run away from taking the blame and STILL does (broken hand cuz
>you punched a wall in the midst of the finals?...you f*cking
>idiot).
>
>So instead of his teammates actually getting better because of
>his presence, they flail and flop when he leaves because of
>his excessive need to be depended on.
>
>Playoff Bron is essentially the non-scowling version of
>Westbrook. He, in essence, makes his team mates LAZY and less
>than they could actually be. But because he does, it masks
>all the deficits of the squad and so they win, with the east
>being so weak, and it worked well enough to get them to the
>finals, where 'anything can happen'. A suspension or injury
>and tides change rapidly.
>
>And let's stop acting like LeBron James is coachable. He's
>not. He's likable, talented and a cash cow so organizations
>let him do what he wants. Coaches consult him and it started
>as a rookie because the Cavs had no idea how to handle a
>talent that bright.
>
>Even Jordan had to be coached up and change his approach a bit
>to be more successful. But because Bron is uncoachable, he's
>fallen short of what he could have been.
>
>So, with that said, LeBronon, pray that your king goes
>somewhere that has a few other allstars that he's comfortable
>with and coach willing to shrink and let Bron run the show.
>Because father time stalking him and he's running out of
>opportunities. The league is targeting both him and the
>Warriors and they've almost caught up with Bron.
>
>Right today, there's only a handful of scenarios that gets
>LeBron 2 more rings. And even THOSE are shrinking.
>
>Ultimately, history respects winners and accomplishments not
>losers and excuses.
>
>You want this throne...come take it.
>
>Otherwise, keep crying about teammates and sit beneath it for
>all time.


https://tinyurl.com/y9favqg8

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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39. "Pippenomics is a zero sum game (c) The Money Man"
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<------- La Potencia

  

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43. "Wait...if Bron smashed Beyonce...I might take it all back lol"
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<---The Coon Chicken Inn
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45. "Nope - Vex didn't see them cavorting in nightclubs so that's impossible."
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<------- La Potencia

  

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46. "Pippen is not a HOF w/o 23"
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Not sure who you trying to save but 6 is the modern day number. Anything less is less.

Funny that dudes trying to go the judges score cards trying to make a case. Shit already settled on the courts. 6 >

"hey, make this right mayne
stop at the light mayne,
my yester night thang got me hung off the night train "

  

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48. "When the debate was about Kobe, the number was set to 7"
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Now that we’re talking about LeBron, 3 with a slew of turded up stats is ok. Just so there’s no confusion though. Bron > Kobe. But the hypocrisy and post moving is funny to watch.

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49. "i remember the partying in 12-13"
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cats were so sure he was getting 7.

lulz

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50. "8."
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<------- La Potencia

  

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51. "Haha"
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52. "Oh, if Lebron has Pippen, he got 5 at least. (easily) "
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Hi


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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58. "he's got more than Wilt - as many as Bird."
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He's won plenty. He's a winner. Anything else is just icing.

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