And by about 40,000 miles at this point. It's embarrassing.

You'll probably never see a man of 33 average a triple double
over a month.

You'll almost surely never see another 30K-8K-8K in your lifetime.

It's special.

The comedy part is even the plea cops are in his favor:

"HE CAME RIGHT OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL!"

LOL. Exactly, dickhead. Dude was a legit highly skilled
elite level player, and not just a big man dunking on
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I like taking shots at Bron as much as the next man, mainly for jokes and riling up some of you hardcore stans, but dude truly is one of the best players ever. With that being said.....Cheese Eyes better.

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Never really put metrics on it...but he's still got work to do

OP says all around

Do that and we can drop the qualifiers

My own...win a chip as player/owner of the Cavs

#2 to me...

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>Never really put metrics on it...but he's still got work to
>do
>
>OP says all around
>
>Do that and we can drop the qualifiers
>
>My own...win a chip as player/owner of the Cavs
>
>#2 to me...

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its kinda an arbitrary bar to set for lebron in terms of elevating his rank in history (and he will prolly end up breaking it in a few years anyway).

rings is obviously a legit standard tho. even if he caught or passed jordan...the winning percentage would still be an issue. jordan made himself peerless in that regard (in the modern era).

It’s better to win 6 of 10 than 6 of 6.

6 of 10 means you made 4 more Finals where as the other player got bounced early in the playoffs and assuming they would’ve won if they had gotten there.

It’s knocking someone for the negative of not winning the Finals but not knocking someone for getting bounced earlier in the Playoffs. You can’t have it both ways.

Shit is borderline idiotic by any measure.

Since when isn’t making it to the Finals better than not making it?

Shit is some backward ass way to try to knock a player for an accomplishment.

another accomplishment

Now had he gone 6 for 6 in the finals...different convo

being that he didn't

he needs another historical achievement

#1 in points would fulfill that criteria

datall

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But major props to him for that accomplishment, he’s an absolutely incredible
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If you look at that draft class, he’s the only guy that’s still playing and that hasn’t fallen off significantly. He’s only 33, but at the same time he’s played a ton of minutes and has carried a huge load the whole time.

It’s pretty incredible that he hasn’t slipped at all. Will be interesting to see how long that goes.

It doesn't really make any sense.

seriously tho the only valid criticism against him at this point is that he hasnt been consistently greater than jordan in nba finals.

dude is the goat by most any other measure tho.

nobody has been better at all of the sum parts of playing basketball than he has.

and I won't get into the G.O.A.T. arguments since that's a fairly complicated debate, but nothing but respect to him for averaging a triple double in February. Very commendable stat to maintain given all the mileage on his tires.

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the Cavs lost, but I'll remember that game forever for a number of reasons.

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LeBron is on Rushmore but Jordan the GOAT.

I'm from the lost black tribe of Israel, the Yos

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It's funny sometimes.

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and you're applying the same bent logic to all Lebron discussions.

Have a nice day.

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30k 8k 8k at 33 is out-of-this-world. He really might get to 40k 10k 10k -- not only we will never see this again in our lifetime - it won't be seen again in any lifetime.

It's now abundantly clear that he's in a league of his own when it comes to all-around basketball ability. It's crazy.

He has but one peer on the mountain-top of all-time Greatness. It's Jordan. Mentioning anyone else is laughable at this point.

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The dude played 4 years of college and still played into his 40's and is atop the scoring boards.

6 MVPs, 6 rings, 2 FMVPs, 19x all star (Bron may beat this one but who knows), etc...

There's an argument.

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Nothing but respect to him.

But in terms of all-around basketball ability and all-time greatness - are we really going to say that Kareem is a better basketball player than LeBron with a straight face?


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Hot take. Kareem's accomplishments are "gaudy".

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lol do you know what "gaudy" means? It was a compliment. Relax.

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But gaudy pretty much means flashy without any substance...it's never really used as a compliment.

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>But gaudy pretty much means flashy without any
>substance...it's never really used as a compliment.

I meant it as absurdly bright - like - so bright it makes you squint to comprehend how he did it. Which is why I can have nothing but respect for what he accomplished. His career stats shine so bright that it's almost blinding. He's more accomplished than even Jordan - but he's not a better basketball player than Jordan - nor LeBron.

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Big players weren’t shooting 3’s and handling the ball back then. So any big that wasn’t doing so can’t win the “all around” debate against anyone with versatility. Scottie Pippen, Grant Hill, hell Steve Smith were better “all around” players than Kareem, Shaq, Wilt, etc. if we’re focusing on the “all around” part. Which is why it’s meaningless.

>Big players weren’t shooting 3’s and handling the ball
>back then. So any big that wasn’t doing so can’t win the
>“all around” debate against anyone with versatility.

Bron is the next evolution of basketball player. Some say he's a "big" but he has the speed, handle, and skill of a much smaller player. The reason we have to say "different era - different type of player" is because we've never seen a player like LeBron in any era - at any size.

>Scottie Pippen, Grant Hill, hell Steve Smith were better
>“all around” players than Kareem, Shaq, Wilt, etc. if
>we’re focusing on the “all around” part. Which is why
>it’s meaningless.

Sure - but they never accomplished even close to what LeBron has accomplished (and throwing Steve Smith in there is a stretch lol). Kareem is on Rushmore - but he won't be considered a better basketball player than LeBron when it's all said & done (save for Laker fans and old head nostalgics).

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>>Big players weren’t shooting 3’s and handling the ball
>>back then. So any big that wasn’t doing so can’t win
>the
>>“all around” debate against anyone with versatility.
>
>Bron is the next evolution of basketball player. Some say
>he's a "big" but he has the speed, handle, and skill of a much
>smaller player. The reason we have to say "different era -
>different type of player" is because we've never seen a player
>like LeBron in any era - at any size.

Well, there have....but LeBron has surpassed them all. Fair to say he’s the most well rounded great player ever.


>>Scottie Pippen, Grant Hill, hell Steve Smith were better
>>“all around” players than Kareem, Shaq, Wilt, etc. if
>>we’re focusing on the “all around” part. Which is why
>>it’s meaningless.
>
>Sure - but they never accomplished even close to what LeBron
>has accomplished (and throwing Steve Smith in there is a
>stretch lol). Kareem is on Rushmore - but he won't be
>considered a better basketball player than LeBron when it's
>all said & done (save for Laker fans and old head
>nostalgics).

That’s usually how it goes. As time passes fewer people will have seen Kareem play, and those that care enough to look up old games might have a tougher time putting things into context. Comparing great players that are several generations apart from each other is pretty much impossible IMO.

It's so disrespectful.

Dude don't even look to shoot most of the time


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It's just that he's so talented that he can do anything. Shoots the 3 ball better than other pure scorers of the past (like kobe/jordan) - but it doesn't get him syced up to score. He's literally a hybrid of Magic/Jordan possessing their best respective traits.

Will never be seen again.

And think about his peers in his draft: Melo & Wade -- both hall of famers and truly *great* players. They are both physically wearing down in dramatic fashion (with significantly less basketball mileage on their bodies).

To be *this* great for *this* long is astounding.


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he's top ten all time in field goal attempts lol

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Kobe was a shitty scorer relative to Bronny, by
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i.e. nowhere near LeBron.

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Mr. "cold blooded offensive machine" was a brick throwing
inefficient mess compared to Lebron. Kinda weird how true
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https://image.ibb.co/dZqEk6/CHRTTKMUMAI4q_OD.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=716klJCYfwM

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Little facts like that make the world go round

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...in his life before making it to the pros.

There will always be a case to be made for Kareem.

>30k 8k 8k at 33 is out-of-this-world. He really might get to
>40k 10k 10k -- not only we will never see this again in our
>lifetime - it won't be seen again in any lifetime.
>
>It's now abundantly clear that he's in a league of his own
>when it comes to all-around basketball ability. It's crazy.
>
>He has but one peer on the mountain-top of all-time Greatness.
> It's Jordan. Mentioning anyone else is laughable at this
>point.
>
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I'm crying

Lebron will be an elite grade basketball player for a longer
time than anyone, ever.

Lebron's maximum is as maximum as it gets in basketball.


His career doesn't make any sense.



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teams that didn't win a title

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and if he gets in the lane Mailman got that soupbone waiting for him

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And you got Malone on KD?


Cmon man.
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those squads weren't great, at all

They are no '16 Warriors, '01 Kings, etc. They aren't.

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a couple of years earlier


>They are no '16 Warriors, '01 Kings, etc. They aren't.

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(Just so I’m clear - between the years of 1997 and 2000 the Jazz went from one of the best who didn’t win a ring to...old and past their prime. Cool. )

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but both of those Jazz teams were just right place right time

post Drexler/Barkley/Magic/Dream

pre Kobe/Duncan/Webber/KG/Dirk/Sheed

also...the Hornets/Sonics/Magic collective failure to launch really robbed us of some compelling stuff.

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx72AoXsYY4

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The way the center position has fallen off in the past 20 years and the shifts in the game to account for it really make for tough comparisons to Kareem, Wilt, and all the great bigs, tho

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