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BrooklynWHAT
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"Dallas Mavs come on down. You're next on that #MeToo Summer Jam screen"


  

          

Original story
https://www.si.com/nba/2018/02/20/dallas-mavericks-sexual-misconduct-investigation-mark-cuban-response

Cuban's Response
https://www.si.com/nba/2018/02/20/mark-cuban-mavericks-response-dallas-mavericks-statement-sexual-misconduct

i'd swipe but there's a looooot here. makes a lot of sense why Cuban was so adamant that making Sterling sell was a slippery slope. other NBA teams are under investigation as well at the moment...

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I don't understand it
Feb 21st 2018
1
Ussery seems like he just enjoyed tormenting women flat out.
Feb 21st 2018
2
Yeah, there is no scenario in which she can respond
Feb 21st 2018
4
It's about power and control
Feb 21st 2018
3
they like to exercise power over women
Feb 21st 2018
22
he's already using that law degree
Feb 21st 2018
25
Damn, damn, damn....
Feb 21st 2018
5
LOL Cubes on that "I didn't know." Fuck you, dirtbag.
Feb 21st 2018
6
Yeah, that's a hard sell from him.
Feb 21st 2018
7
Cannot claim to be "hands-on" then not know things like this
Feb 21st 2018
8
RE: Yeah, that's a hard sell from him.
Feb 21st 2018
13
Yup, and lol @ they handle the business side of things
Feb 21st 2018
16
Pretty much
Sep 25th 2018
42
I mean the one dude personally thanked Cuban for a second chance
Feb 21st 2018
14
this part is gonna destroy a lot of talking points:
Feb 21st 2018
9
MAN!!!!!!! Hell yeah...and even the racial aspects behind this.
Feb 21st 2018
10
the two dudes in the piece are also black tho...
Feb 21st 2018
11
      Ah, that's all bad. I need to read the whole thing
Feb 21st 2018
12
           Still, that image of athletes is there
Feb 21st 2018
15
                Yeah it is though
Feb 21st 2018
18
I was grinning like shit when I read that part.
Feb 21st 2018
19
Oh it should, unfortunately people will ignore it
Feb 21st 2018
20
Now we know what Cuban meant by "slippery slope"
Feb 21st 2018
17
yuuup
Feb 21st 2018
23
Mark absolutely knew. Just a matter of proving it
Feb 21st 2018
21
head of HR was sending anti-gay e-mails to entire departments.
Feb 21st 2018
24
That was the "business side" not the "operations side" *eyeroll*
Feb 22nd 2018
26
Should have been fired that day.
Feb 22nd 2018
29
the most damning part for the Mavs org imo
Feb 22nd 2018
27
srsly, it's really not that hard to get right
Feb 22nd 2018
28
It would be interesting if Disney/ABC
Feb 22nd 2018
30
seems like the tanking comments are getting way more coverage.
Feb 22nd 2018
31
Mark Cuban is such a supreme shitbag
Feb 24th 2018
32
Mark Cuban "on that summer jam screen"?
Mar 07th 2018
33
Fuck Mark Cuban.
Sep 20th 2018
34
props to Rachel...
Sep 20th 2018
35
ah the old throw 10 million at it and hope that works routine
Sep 20th 2018
36
It's like they don't think we understand percentages.
Sep 20th 2018
39
10 mil is a lot. i cant believe he did that interview tho.
Sep 20th 2018
41
It's nuts how one of the most well known owners in the league
Sep 20th 2018
37
Folks don't care when a potential Supreme Court nominee does it
Sep 20th 2018
38
seriously why did mark cuban even do that interview?
Sep 20th 2018
40

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1. "I don't understand it"
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You have degrees out the ass from the top schools. You can have any exec job you want. Everyone will like you and respect you.
So why pull that kinda crap? What a waste.

And if you want the skins, why not run smooth game?

  

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BrooklynWHAT
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2. "Ussery seems like he just enjoyed tormenting women flat out."
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like...there's no end game for "so you getting gang-banged this weekend?"

other than just seeing how she reacts to it.

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4. "Yeah, there is no scenario in which she can respond"
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That isn't uncomfortable for someone (most likely her.) That's the point.

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3. "It's about power and control "
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22. "they like to exercise power over women"
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people kept wondering "why are weinstein and louis ck pulling their dicks out and jerking off in front of women, what does that even do?"

it's just power shit. I'm going to do this and there's nothing you can do to stop it.

they see women as having less power, and specifically manipulate the situation so they can do what they want.

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25. "he's already using that law degree"
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"During my nearly 20 year tenure with the Mavericks, I am not aware of any sexual harassment complaints about me..."

*not aware*

"In fact, on multiple occasions I and other senior executives at the organization raised concerns—both in person and in emails—about other Mavericks employees who had engaged in highly inappropriate—and in some cases, threatening—sexual conduct."

*saved a reply all where I told Pittman to stop re-using the same anti-gay jokes*

"The organization refused to address these concerns, and I believe these misleading claims about me are part of an attempt to shift blame for the failure to remove employees who created an uncomfortable and hostile work environment within the Mavericks organization.”

*I'm going to find another scapegoat for this shit*

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5. "Damn, damn, damn...."
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6. "LOL Cubes on that "I didn't know." Fuck you, dirtbag. "
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7. "Yeah, that's a hard sell from him."
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As the article notes, his whole image is built on "I'm way more connected than the other owners." So either his line is bullshit or his whole image is bullshit, or both. Whichever is true, it's a bad look.

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8. "Cannot claim to be "hands-on" then not know things like this"
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13. "RE: Yeah, that's a hard sell from him."
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https://sports.yahoo.com/fired-mavericks-employee-signed-contract-prohibiting-1-1-contact-female-employees-alleged-assault-164757022.html

How would an owner so famously devoted to the minutiae of the way his team was covered that he revoked ESPN.com’s credentials to make a statement about the perils of automated game stories not know that his team’s own full-time beat writer — one who, as Luther and Wertheim note, first got a freelance look from the team by cold-emailing Cuban, and was bumped up to full-time only after another direct conversation with the owner — was prevented by his assault record from traveling to Canada to cover road games against the Toronto Raptors? How would an owner whose attention to detail drills down to the specific selection and broadcast of replays not be aware that one of the organization’s public-facing employees was arrested at the Mavericks’ facility, and was then presented with a contract specifically forbidding that employee from having one-on-one contact with female colleagues? If Cuban was completely siloed from Sneed’s arrest, subsequent incidents, contract and “counseling,” then why the thanks to Cuban for “facilitating growth” in the years since the incidents?

  

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16. "Yup, and lol @ they handle the business side of things"
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Oh word? The Shark Tank Billionaire is hands off on the business side of the only company he really cares about???

  

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42. "Pretty much"
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>As the article notes, his whole image is built on "I'm way
>more connected than the other owners." So either his line is
>bullshit or his whole image is bullshit, or both. Whichever is
>true, it's a bad look.

Dude insists being at games dressed like a normal fan, but somehow never had a culture where employees could talk to him about serious and sensitive issues? Would be interested to know whether any of the harassed females ever went to him and his reaction (obviously not a positive one).


  

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14. "I mean the one dude personally thanked Cuban for a second chance"
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Zero chance he didn't know

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9. "this part is gonna destroy a lot of talking points:"
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While sources referred to the Mavericks office as a “locker room culture,” the team’s actual locker room was a refuge. Says one female former senior staffer: “I dealt with players all the time. I had hundreds of interactions with players and never once had an issue…they always knew how to treat people. Then I'd go to the office and it was this zoo, this complete shitshow. My anxiety would go down dealing with players; it would go up when I got to my desk.”
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10. "MAN!!!!!!! Hell yeah...and even the racial aspects behind this."
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The "spoiled, overpaid" Black men who are seen as being sexual deviants were way more respectful than these white collar, suit n tie, older White men. They aren't gonna acknowledge this side of things, though.

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11. "the two dudes in the piece are also black tho..."
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Ussery and the reporter dude.

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12. "Ah, that's all bad. I need to read the whole thing"
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15. "Still, that image of athletes is there"
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That was the original logic behind not letting female reporters in locker rooms, because what would happen if they were around all those testosterone-soaked athletes coming out of the showers?

Suit and tie guys are worse.

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18. "Yeah it is though"
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19. "I was grinning like shit when I read that part. "
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>------
>While sources referred to the Mavericks office as a “locker
>room culture,” the team’s actual locker room was a refuge.
>Says one female former senior staffer: “I dealt with players
>all the time. I had hundreds of interactions with players and
>never once had an issue…they always knew how to treat
>people. Then I'd go to the office and it was this zoo, this
>complete shitshow. My anxiety would go down dealing with
>players; it would go up when I got to my desk.”
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20. "Oh it should, unfortunately people will ignore it"
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or at least the people who shouldn't ignore it will.

  

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17. "Now we know what Cuban meant by "slippery slope""
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He was vocal about revoking ownership of the Clippers. This could be a glimpse into why. He knew his own front office was being ran like a frat and there were some potential landmines.

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23. "yuuup"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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21. "Mark absolutely knew. Just a matter of proving it "
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For someone who prides himself about being a hands-on owner with an intimate knowledge of the pulse of his team and organization...and now suddenly he's only involved in basketball ops?

Yes, he delegates a lot of the financial ops to his CEO and if it was a few problems then there's a chance that it never got back to him...but considering it was rampant and on multiple levels, there's no way he didn't know.

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24. "head of HR was sending anti-gay e-mails to entire departments."
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wow.

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26. "That was the "business side" not the "operations side" *eyeroll*"
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29. "Should have been fired that day. "
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27. "the most damning part for the Mavs org imo"
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This guy went to a company with a real HR department and got shown the door in less than 2 months:

Multiple sources tell SI that early in his tenure with Under Armour, Ussery rode in an elevator with a female co-worker, far lower in rank. During the elevator ride, he behaved in a sexually inappropriate manner. The employee complained to Human Resources. In early November, after less than two months on the job, Ussery abruptly resigned from Under Armour in what was called an “organizational reshuffle.” (Says a spokeswoman for Under Armour: “While we cannot disclose specific personnel matters, Under Armour takes these matters very seriously.”)

  

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28. "srsly, it's really not that hard to get right"
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every company should read this article to see the contrast btw the Mavs' response and UA's response. Night and Day.

  

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30. "It would be interesting if Disney/ABC"
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reacts in terms of his Shark Tank show, assuming enough of a stink is raised on this matter.

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31. "seems like the tanking comments are getting way more coverage."
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32. "Mark Cuban is such a supreme shitbag"
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Nice to have irrefutable evidence.

  

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33. "Mark Cuban "on that summer jam screen"?"
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https://sports.yahoo.com/report-mark-cuban-investigated-alleged-sexual-assault-2011-charges-never-filed-054514266.html

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34. "Fuck Mark Cuban. "
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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35. "props to Rachel..."
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36. "ah the old throw 10 million at it and hope that works routine"
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fucking hate that guy.

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39. "It's like they don't think we understand percentages."
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That's .25% of his net worth. I've donated a higher percentage of my net worth to Facebook birthday charities.

Not to mention we all know it's gonna be a tax write-off anyway.

I don't know what the "right amount" to donate is when you get caught overseeing some bullshit... but it's more than .25%. If he donated, like, between 100+ million? Maybe I'd be more inclined to think he's taking this shit seriously.

I'm not sure I know where the scale tips to even between "he's just a billionaire tossing money at a problem" and "that's enough money helping a good cause and enough of a hit to him that he's not just bullshitting." I reckon that number varies from person to person. But it's definitely more than .25%. Way more.

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41. "10 mil is a lot. i cant believe he did that interview tho. "
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what a bad look

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37. "It's nuts how one of the most well known owners in the league"
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letting his male employees do whatever to their female colleagues for years just kind of got pushed aside for the usual NBA offseason drama.

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The Real
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38. "Folks don't care when a potential Supreme Court nominee does it"
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So why would they care if an visible NBA owner turns a blind eye to it.

As long as he don't kneel, they cool.

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Reeq
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40. "seriously why did mark cuban even do that interview?"
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how do 'accept responsibility' for something by claiming ignorance and
unawareness...but then when confronted with the fact that you were made aware, your defense is basically 'sorry i believed the guy'?

these rich dudes be really thinking they can just hop on camera with the disgraced televangelist face and use their crisis management team talking points to 'show contrition'.

leagues need to start handing out ncaa level penalties to teams/owners for 'lack of institutional control'.

  

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