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"Brazilian Jiujitsu (BJJ) Post Blue Belt"


  

          

So I promised to reply to this post, http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2530159&mode=full

but never did.

I am now comfortably 1.25 years into my blue belt and not having the blue belt blues at all. My 1st year at Blue belt was frustrating since I had some random injuries and life things that probably kept me off the mat 4 out of 12 months. Over the last 6 months (knock on wood) ive been pretty consistent.

The toughest part is balancing work, family and time for bjj. Luckily for me my new job is literally across the street from the academy so most of my training is done at lunch.

I feel pretty confident as a blue belt. I cant beat everyone by any stretch of the imagination, but i feel like I can get into a roll and know what to do or how to survive -- except against the real high level guys who still toy with me.

My game has been so focused on passing, and now Ive really been trying to transition to playing more guard --since thats such a fundamental part of BJJ.
Over the last week Ive also gone to 2 nogi classes (and enjoyed it) which is more than I had done in the prior 8 months combined.

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Marcelo highlight pt. 45934857145
Jan 25th 2018
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Ben Asken on Jiu Jitsu school doing it wrong
Jan 25th 2018
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RE: Ben Asken on Jiu Jitsu school doing it wrong
Jan 26th 2018
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It rubs me the wrong way that Keenan is marketing himself
Jan 26th 2018
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RE: Ben Asken on Jiu Jitsu school doing it wrong
Jan 29th 2018
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      Drilling just to drill I think is sometimes fairly criticized in having
Jan 29th 2018
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      RE: Drilling just to drill I think is sometimes fairly criticized in hav...
Jan 29th 2018
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           Very cool to hear from an instuctor's perspective
Jan 29th 2018
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                RE: Very cool to hear from an instuctor's perspective
Jan 29th 2018
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      Repetition is the mother of learning,
Jan 29th 2018
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           slow is smooth, smooth is fast!
Jan 29th 2018
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sidenote: I wish we could get just 1-2 guys to start
Jan 25th 2018
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If you jump in this post, post your zip code and I’ll tell you places ...
Jan 26th 2018
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91362
Jan 27th 2018
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Hmm Thousand Oaks
Jan 27th 2018
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      much appreciated
Jan 27th 2018
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           Would highly recommend GB northridge
Jan 27th 2018
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90301
Jan 29th 2018
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Man you live near the Mecca
Jan 29th 2018
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      Heard nothing but great things about Kron's school from people
Jan 30th 2018
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      RE: Man you live near the Mecca
Jan 30th 2018
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           Word man I can’t believe we grew up in the shadow of Bjj mecca
Jan 31st 2018
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man fuck it. ive been thinking bout it for a long time - 48170
Apr 04th 2018
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      Dope, both experiences will help you
Apr 05th 2018
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inbox
Sep 23rd 2018
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btw did ytou catch the replay of how JT put it on Benson
Jan 26th 2018
6
Oh shit that actually ended up happening?
Jan 26th 2018
7
Omoplata game Level 1000
Jan 29th 2018
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yo wtf?!
Jan 30th 2018
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      Rafa is god.
Jan 30th 2018
28
Not specifically BJJ, but I'm a full-on Khabib stan now.
Jan 29th 2018
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hmm better than Maia? definitely more complete
Jan 30th 2018
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MMA related - El Cucuy skill study
Jan 31st 2018
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I love Khabib, hes also my favorite fighter now and want him to win
Jan 31st 2018
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      I hope you're right
Jan 31st 2018
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           RE: I hope you're right
Jan 31st 2018
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                tony didn't beat kevin, staph beat kevin © kevin
Jan 31st 2018
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                     A W is a W an L is an L
Jan 31st 2018
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                          Tony woulda got him regardless
Jan 31st 2018
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Did anyone make it for a trial class?
Feb 16th 2018
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this post is cool, glad to see people int bjj, martial arts in general.
Feb 17th 2018
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up cause im bored
Mar 27th 2018
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gonna train at the downtown brooklyn masterskya this saturday
Mar 27th 2018
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RE: gonna train at the downtown brooklyn masterskya this saturday
Mar 27th 2018
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      RE: gonna train at the downtown brooklyn masterskya this saturday
Mar 27th 2018
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           RE: gonna train at the downtown brooklyn masterskya this saturday
Mar 27th 2018
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                RE: gonna train at the downtown brooklyn masterskya this saturday
Mar 27th 2018
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                     how was it?
Apr 02nd 2018
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                          I caught a bad cold so I didn't go smh
Apr 02nd 2018
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Saw this up and was thinking someone got a purple belt
Mar 29th 2018
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      RE: Saw this up and was thinking someone got a purple belt
Mar 30th 2018
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What are y'all working on plugging into your game?
Apr 02nd 2018
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I hear you on training with the younger competitors
Apr 02nd 2018
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RE: I hear you on training with the younger competitors
Apr 03rd 2018
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I'm not really implementing anything new at the moment.
Apr 02nd 2018
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This must be the toughest part of the journey
Apr 03rd 2018
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      It's not that bad really.
Apr 04th 2018
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           Any plans for when you get the black?
Apr 05th 2018
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                Only plan I have is to get a dope belt.
Apr 06th 2018
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                     I got mine from here
Apr 07th 2018
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                     Gotta get some dope katakana / kanji embroidered on it!
Apr 16th 2018
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Mostly focusing on playing guard
Apr 03rd 2018
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      RE: Mostly focusing on playing guard
Apr 03rd 2018
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Nephew heading west to train at Jackson/Wink....
Apr 04th 2018
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RE: Nephew heading west to train at Jackson/Wink....
Apr 04th 2018
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RE: Nephew heading west to train at Jackson/Wink....
Apr 17th 2018
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Prime age. Wish I had started training younger
Apr 05th 2018
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      True.
Apr 17th 2018
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Dirty White Belt Radio
Apr 05th 2018
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RE: Dirty White Belt Radio
Apr 05th 2018
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yeah it was through the friend
Apr 05th 2018
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      RE: yeah it was through the friend
Apr 05th 2018
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           10+ year of power yoga, various forms
Apr 05th 2018
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saved it to Pocket for later
Apr 05th 2018
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One of our coaches, Matheus Diniz-- Kasai MW champ
Apr 16th 2018
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AYO
Apr 16th 2018
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      RE: AYO
Apr 16th 2018
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           Nah when I went to the class they were still hype about the seminar
Apr 16th 2018
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here we go, signed up for an intro class next week at Meraki in LA
May 08th 2018
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Congrats man....
May 08th 2018
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mostly the location
May 08th 2018
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Looks like a cool gym
May 08th 2018
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      yeah, the judo class was a very nice bonus
May 08th 2018
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Our other coach Marcos Tinoco ran through his Div at Brasilieros
May 08th 2018
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Professor really coming on recently
May 08th 2018
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yea man was gonne comment on that
May 08th 2018
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      I remember a class with a bunch of the spunky white belts
May 08th 2018
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Here they are...
May 08th 2018
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      paul's comment on that first armbar says it all
May 08th 2018
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Shawn and Trey - any info on Paul's next dvd w/ Digitsu?
Aug 22nd 2018
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Good question, I'll ask around and come back.
Aug 23rd 2018
90
      Thanks for asking around.
Aug 23rd 2018
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           Been out since Monday with a shoulder but I shot some texts
Aug 24th 2018
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                RE: Been out since Monday with a shoulder but I shot some texts
Aug 25th 2018
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                     great points I will keep in mind
Aug 27th 2018
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                          RE: great points I will keep in mind
Aug 27th 2018
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Starting today
Oct 08th 2018
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You 100% will make it
Oct 08th 2018
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thanks man
Oct 08th 2018
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      That gym looks really nice
Oct 08th 2018
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      My guess is no, since its an hour
Oct 08th 2018
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      Oh, hey. Looks like we live in the same area.
Oct 09th 2018
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           inbox
Oct 11th 2018
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Dope man...im just seeing your inbox so my bad...
Oct 08th 2018
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      RE: Dope man...im just seeing your inbox so my bad...
Oct 08th 2018
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      His performance at worlds was legendary
Oct 08th 2018
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           yea, if NJ was actually in Charlotte I wouldve been like
Oct 08th 2018
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Anyone else wanna try BJJ after watching Khabib maul McG
Oct 08th 2018
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B-b-but Danis said that Sambo is shit!
Oct 08th 2018
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how do you grade Conor's grappling against khabib?
Oct 08th 2018
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      I think overall he did okay til he got finished
Oct 08th 2018
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      Yeah the first take down he defended ok at first, khabib was just not
Oct 08th 2018
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      Just to be clear
Oct 09th 2018
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      I thought he did pretty bad.
Oct 09th 2018
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           You don't agree with Gordo's assessment?
Oct 09th 2018
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                RE: You don't agree with Gordo's assessment?
Oct 09th 2018
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                PS quintet looks fun as fuck
Oct 09th 2018
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                I haven't read it.
Oct 09th 2018
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                     RE: I haven't read it.
Oct 09th 2018
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                          Give him trouble... yes.
Oct 10th 2018
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inpulse:
Oct 08th 2018
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Trey and Shawn -
Nov 08th 2018
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Quinn is that dude
Nov 08th 2018
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      RE: Quinn is that dude
Nov 08th 2018
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           We got some interesting music choice at MGA lol
Nov 08th 2018
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WHO THE FUCK IS READY FOR KASAI PRO 4 + Return of Marcelo?
Nov 09th 2018
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T Reynolds
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1. "Marcelo highlight pt. 45934857145"
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from reddit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3o9SNW97yI&feature=youtu.be

i've been out for 6 weeks now with an injury so there's already that stress of going back and getting worked by your bros

but watching shit like this is just super humbling today

  

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2. "Ben Asken on Jiu Jitsu school doing it wrong"
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Granted I got injured drilling scrambles in Hudson's class (wrestling)

But his take on aimless rounds of sparring vs drilling from positions is spot on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijAMRqBZgo8

  

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5. "RE: Ben Asken on Jiu Jitsu school doing it wrong"
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>Granted I got injured drilling scrambles in Hudson's class
>(wrestling)
>
>But his take on aimless rounds of sparring vs drilling from
>positions is spot on
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijAMRqBZgo8
>
>

We've talked about this. How most of the way BJJ is taught is not the most efficient way to learn. Its not that you cnat learn, but its just not as easy if you arent a natural. There's no consistent drilling, no scaffolding of techniques. I think this is one of the thing's Keenan is trying to do with his online channel. It's unfortunbate that a lot of the guys doing this type of research/work liek Kit Dale and keenan are white.

MG in action was game changing when it came out, and it has the potential to be so much more...but Marcelo is on autopilot with it these days.


My wrestling friends who now do jiujitsu have similar critiques. WIth all that being said. Jiujitsu isnt hs or college wrestling. Those guys that do that are doing it with a goal of competition in mind.

BJJ has that but also has hobbyists and guys who just want exercise, so the environment isnt intense. If BJJ rooms were treated like wrestling rooms, they'd lose like 70% of their customer base...easily. Not many adults after a long day of work or with the kids (if they arent training for comp would take that kind of "abuse") --especially without a really good supportive community.

I love BJJ, and was in that Unity pro training before Christmas break, and while I reveled in the 12 rounds in a hot ass room for 2 hours--it's not something I would do more than once every couple weeks lol. Most people would tap out just from the training condition and environment if they aren't seriously "pro training"

Ive said this before, but in terms of marketing and community building, if a BJJ gym really wants to grow (and doesnt have a world class guy running it) there are some lessons to learn from some of the top Crossfit gyms and how they build community.

My neighborhood really needs an academy. I would love to run a social project /community type grappling program like Fernando, but Im nowhere near the level to teach yet. It's a shame because rent in my neighborhood for a studio could still be affordable.

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T Reynolds
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8. "It rubs me the wrong way that Keenan is marketing himself"
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Fri Jan-26-18 11:22 AM by T Reynolds

  

          

for being a white guy who speaks English well

I've joked about hating to to watch Lepri's vids because of his accent (it's not incomprehensible as much as Italian-sounding Brazilian 'poot your ahrrrm ovurh heerah'), not to mention Maia, but to have these white guys overtly market themselves on their English to the detriment of a lot of great Brazilian guys is borderline disrespectful.

>
>We've talked about this. How most of the way BJJ is taught is
>not the most efficient way to learn. Its not that you cnat
>learn, but its just not as easy if you arent a natural.
>There's no consistent drilling, no scaffolding of techniques.
>I think this is one of the thing's Keenan is trying to do with
>his online channel. It's unfortunbate that a lot of the guys
>doing this type of research/work liek Kit Dale and keenan are
>white.
>
>MG in action was game changing when it came out, and it has
>the potential to be so much more...but Marcelo is on autopilot
>with it these days.
>
>
> My wrestling friends who now do jiujitsu have similar
>critiques. WIth all that being said. Jiujitsu isnt hs or
>college wrestling. Those guys that do that are doing it with a
>goal of competition in mind.
>
>BJJ has that but also has hobbyists and guys who just want
>exercise, so the environment isnt intense. If BJJ rooms were
>treated like wrestling rooms, they'd lose like 70% of their
>customer base...easily. Not many adults after a long day of
>work or with the kids (if they arent training for comp would
>take that kind of "abuse") --especially without a really good
>supportive community.
>
>I love BJJ, and was in that Unity pro training before
>Christmas break, and while I reveled in the 12 rounds in a hot
>ass room for 2 hours--it's not something I would do more than
>once every couple weeks lol. Most people would tap out just
>from the training condition and environment if they aren't
>seriously "pro training"

Yeah I would be down to visit once or twice maybe, just to feel the levelz.

Describe their dudes though. Their blue belts. The vibe. The style of rolling. The smell. The mold. The inside-out gis for afternoon sessionz. Paint a picture for those that have never set foot on the brackish, Everglade-like mats.

>Ive said this before, but in terms of marketing and community
>building, if a BJJ gym really wants to grow (and doesnt have a
>world class guy running it) there are some lessons to learn
>from some of the top Crossfit gyms and how they build
>community.

You can't spell crossfit without the oss

>My neighborhood really needs an academy. I would love to run a
>social project /community type grappling program like
>Fernando, but Im nowhere near the level to teach yet. It's a
>shame because rent in my neighborhood for a studio could still
>be affordable.

That would be off the chain. Rolling outside of the academy is more and more appealing to me. Trying to get together with my man that used to fight MMA and my boy who got his brown in Judo and just started submission wrestling on the side at my JKD school, and have the assistant instructor and the instructor just work some easy rounds with all of us. That's my goal in like a month when I'm back in shape.

  

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13. "RE: Ben Asken on Jiu Jitsu school doing it wrong"
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Ben is correct on drilling. IMO, it should be done in 3 phases:

1. rote technique - 100% success for the person to learn the movement
2. intensity and speed - still 100% success but done at a speed and intensity closer to sparring. This will help better integrate the movement into someone's game
3. positional drilling - staying in the context of whatever the lesson is but now against a resisting opponent. This allows you to see how fully integrated a movement is and how well you can incorporate it into your game

once those things are done, then you can spar

I got some of this from Andre Galvao who is notorious for how he drills:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSYeB5DcUgE

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T Reynolds
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14. "Drilling just to drill I think is sometimes fairly criticized in having"
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Mon Jan-29-18 01:08 PM by T Reynolds

  

          

limited benefit

but when you take a multi-tiered approach to familiarizing yourself with a technique, like you said and like I'm seeing Andre say in this vid, it seems to have huge benefits

most guys spend time between classes drilling at bjj, but one of the guys who teaches a takedown class and has a pretty extensive wrestling background is a big vocal proponent of this approach during class

  

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15. "RE: Drilling just to drill I think is sometimes fairly criticized in hav..."
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i agree. its only worthwhile in conjunction with other teaching methods. in the past, i have taught classes where i wanted to pack in so much information that all we got to do was rote technique and then spar. in hindsight, those classes was some of the more disjointed classes i've ever taught and add to that the fact that my students didn't really gain anything of substance that they could apply.

recently, i have found drilling to drill to be beneficial. I use a set up where me and a partner drill whatever a technique or sequence of moves for 2-3 mins a piece. minimal to no chit chat, just solid foundational stuff that we can plug into our games or fortify our games. after we both had a turn, we positional spar our technique or position for an additional 2-3 mins a piece, then we either switch partners or move on to different technique. an hour of that feels worse than an hour of sparring and the benefit to your game is greater, imo.

finally, being one of the few black belts in my gym, i try to set the example that you have to put in some real dedicated work to see gains. i grab the most lost looking white belt and drill technique with them. i don't talk much, just drill. by the end, we're both pretty lathered up and ready to move on to positional sparring.

  

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16. "Very cool to hear from an instuctor's perspective"
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>i agree. its only worthwhile in conjunction with other
>teaching methods. in the past, i have taught classes where i
>wanted to pack in so much information that all we got to do
>was rote technique and then spar. in hindsight, those classes
>was some of the more disjointed classes i've ever taught and
>add to that the fact that my students didn't really gain
>anything of substance that they could apply.

This is like 99% of the classes I have taken so far into my 3rd year doing this. 1) Warm ups. 2) Practice technique(s) of the day with variations w/ partner (2 and 2). 3) Sparring.

If you're in tune and open minded in your training you can successfully bring the technique into the sparring, but your partner kind of has to be 'in on it' i.e. not just going for his A game. Good sparring partners will do this but those are kind of few and far between.


>recently, i have found drilling to drill to be beneficial. I
>use a set up where me and a partner drill whatever a technique
>or sequence of moves for 2-3 mins a piece. minimal to no chit
>chat, just solid foundational stuff that we can plug into our
>games or fortify our games. after we both had a turn, we
>positional spar our technique or position for an additional
>2-3 mins a piece, then we either switch partners or move on to
>different technique. an hour of that feels worse than an hour
>of sparring and the benefit to your game is greater, imo.

yeah. that is something I was very impressed with when I visited Cobrinha's Las Vegas academy. They did 2-5 minutes straight, one person, one technique, BOTH SIDES (so key). Then switched. Then they added a wrinkle and added resistance etc. Those guys mopped me up! (I was a brand new blue belt at the time)

>finally, being one of the few black belts in my gym, i try to
>set the example that you have to put in some real dedicated
>work to see gains. i grab the most lost looking white belt and
>drill technique with them. i don't talk much, just drill. by
>the end, we're both pretty lathered up and ready to move on to
>positional sparring.

Very cool. I always appreciate when a black belt takes the time to work with me. At my school it's kind of rare.

  

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19. "RE: Very cool to hear from an instuctor's perspective"
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Cobrinha's drilling is next level. I went out to his academy in LA in preparation for Pans in 2011. All we did for about 3 days was omoplata set ups, finishes and transitions. it was too much information for me at the time but we drilled so much that it stuck. luckily, another training partner of mine retained so much and we came home and drilled relentlessly for months. that weekend of training became the foundation of a good bit of my attacks from guard.

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17. "Repetition is the mother of learning,"
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and when you're new to a move or skill you HAVE to drill it slowly and increase pace and resistance gradually. A problem would occur when people stop short of live-speed and the opponent being a good opponent. Also, doing things slow and controlled can actually make you faster when it's go-time because the neural networks you form during the slower practice(this applies more to complex skills like submissions, and not as much with striking or sprinting).

  

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18. "slow is smooth, smooth is fast!"
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3. "sidenote: I wish we could get just 1-2 guys to start"
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4. "If you jump in this post, post your zip code and I’ll tell you places ..."
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Where you can train

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9. "91362"
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10. "Hmm Thousand Oaks"
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so I see 3 schools Id recommend

Gracie Morumbi right in Thousand Oaks
ZR team in Westlake
Paragon in Agoura

So depending on where you live/work. Morumbi is the closest to the actual Zip.
They have a good lineage through the Renzo/Ryan Gracie line and the instructor there is legit. Looks like they have a huge facility, but I dont see their schedule posted

http://www.graciejiujitsufabioleopoldo.com/


ZR team is a well known team but the instructor is a brown belt. He has good credentials listed, but otherwise I dont know him.
http://www.zrwestlake.com/
Also a really limited schedule also


Paragon is a really well known team in the Valley and up the Central Coast. The main school is in Santa Barbara and I believe thats where Paul Walker trained. Theyve also produced a couple of the sports stars at some point in Jeff Glover and Bill Cooper. The school in Agoura is an affiliate but the instructor there also has a good pedigree. I like that paragon in general is pretty laid back on the traditional martial arts aspects of things and if its nearby Id recommend checking it out.
What I didnt like about the site is their schedule is kind of limited. So that may give you less options to train

http://paragonbjjacademy.com/schedule/


If you can get to Northridge, one of the best competition schools in the area is there: Gracie Barra northridge

Let me know if you need more or if you work closer to another area

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11. "much appreciated"
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i work in thousand oaks but live in the valley not too far away from northridge. gracie barra is looking like a good choice

  

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12. "Would highly recommend GB northridge"
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I generally dont liek the Gracie barra franchise model...but from what ive heard they have the freedom to do things a bit different there because of who they are.


Romulo Barral (the head guy there) is a legend and one of my favorites to watch both because of technique and attitude and they have a crop of young super stars stars that train there part or full time

Felipe Pena
Gabriel Arges
Edwin Najmi
Samuel Braga

You can look them all up and there is probably a bjjheroes page for them all

https://www.bjjheroes.com/bjj-fighters/romulo-barral-wiki

A video on the new gym they just rolled out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDUHwkvwE4g


They have a nice schedule, though lots of it is geared toward the competitors/black belts
http://www.gbnorthridge.com/?page_id=2221

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20. "90301"
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sometimes u gotta leave ur inner nigger in the bank vault. - desus

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23. "Man you live near the Mecca"
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You can go south to the South Bay

Near you is Kron Gracie in Culver City. A lot of people like his school but its a lot more traditional. If getting to Koreatown in the traffic isnt bad--Id recommend Cobrinha's school. One of the best competition schools and a friendly place to learn. Kron and Cobrinha will be pricey---I bet I can get you a more affordable place like Nino Schembri in Lawndale. tell me what our priorities are
i.e.
best school for competing
best school for self defense
best school for workout
best school for learning
best school for community
best lineage
location
cost
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24. "Heard nothing but great things about Kron's school from people"
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who visited

I went with the one closer to the hotel I was staying in, Tsunami, which is smaller and more old school, but Kron's is right near the 405 and one of the best school in SoCal

  

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26. "RE: Man you live near the Mecca"
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Good looking, Lawndale would probably be the best for me, but Culver isn't that bad of a journey after work. I'm looking to workout, get into shape and learn some general self-defense. I'm either way on price depending on the lineage and quality of training.

There was a Gracie school near my old house in Torrance, I just never went cause I thought it was a fad school and not one for good training.

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30. "Word man I can’t believe we grew up in the shadow of Bjj mecca"
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>Good looking, Lawndale would probably be the best for me, but
>Culver isn't that bad of a journey after work. I'm looking to
>workout, get into shape and learn some general self-defense.
>I'm either way on price depending on the lineage and quality
>of training.
>
>There was a Gracie school near my old house in Torrance, I
>just never went cause I thought it was a fad school and not
>one for good training.


And never trained. All the time I spent in Torrance, Carson, gardens— the academy was there. The Gracie school I’ve heard some mixed things about. The guys who run it are skilled and they’ve produced some good fighters— but they have an old school kind of model.

I think nino in lawndale could be a good option for you. I imagine that school and kron’s school in Culver City will have some type of trial option you can try. I think overall Ninos in lawndale will be a lot cheaper and you will probably get more black and brown practioners

But try them out and see. I think both schools will offer a great workout and self defense
And both guys have top notch lineage and history in the sport

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58. "man fuck it. ive been thinking bout it for a long time - 48170"
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i made it to the green/blue cusp in judo as a youth before giving it up for football and ive been thinkong about trying BJJ for a while

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62. "Dope, both experiences will help you"
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>i made it to the green/blue cusp in judo as a youth before
>giving it up for football and ive been thinkong about trying
>BJJ for a while
Check these schools

http://www.kaizenbjj.com/plymouth_location/
This school has a good old school lineage. I t seems like a great place to train because they have such a robust schedule --lots of class times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-BExc9SS68
The guy the main instructor got his black belt from is featured heavily in this film


http://www.plymouthjj.com/page04.html
This school also has a good lineage.


http://www.313bjj.com/
If youre nearer to Detroit or work there check out this place. The instructors are affiliated with our academy and instructors and Ive heard good things.


Most schools offer a trial class, so id recommend checking them out and feeling where you like the vibe/schedule the best.

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96. "inbox"
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n/m

"Things aren't looking too good for black people right now PR-wise"
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"The way that you control a motherfucker that ain't don't nothing is you give them something. Then you hold it over their heads."
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6. "btw did ytou catch the replay of how JT put it on Benson"
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I mean i couldve predicted the outcome, but to watch JT just control every aspect of the match and then choke him the fuck out was a thing of beauty.

That's another example of levels...

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7. "Oh shit that actually ended up happening?"
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Supposed you can't link cause FloGrappling and all

JT is fucking world class I couldn't picture it happening any other way

MMA grappling vs JiuJitsu pros is not always so one-sided though.

From what I hear Max Holloway who just got a purple will be tapping fools out in training. And there was that recent clip of Khabib throwing Leandro Vieira around

https://jiujitsutimes.com/khabib-nurmagomedov-rolls-3rd-degree-black-belt-leandro-vieira-caught-darce-choke/

At the same time I heard Dillon was catching Luke Rockhold with a lot of shit when he visited several months ago.

  

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21. "Omoplata game Level 1000"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwwXQx6HBNw

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27. "yo wtf?!"
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Rafa is fucking next level

  

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28. "Rafa is god."
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His movement is so dope. I feel like he is the embodiment of Terere’s legacy. The way those dudes move is just beautiful, and this is coming from a marcelo student.

I don’t even aspire for that game I just enjoy it. I’m a sloppy pressure passer—nothing pretty about my game at this stage.


Man wtf


https://www.instagram.com/p/Bdxr0OslRUc/

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22. "Not specifically BJJ, but I'm a full-on Khabib stan now."
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He was always quite good, but he somehow went up another few levels since he came back from that long layoff - this Horcher - Johnson - Barboza "streak". Also seems like he is STILL GETTING BETTER.

I mean, he came back with a new approach and has been murdering these guys with it. I've been trying to emulate some of his looks in class. Specifically with takedowns, attacking in half- and quarter- guard, and with passing from standing. IMO, he's the best grappler in MMA. Even better than Maia.

I think he beats Tony pretty easily. Tony's best chance is the Darce, imo. I don't see him KOing/TKOing Khabib. The triangle won't be there for him because Khabib is going to stay on the feet until he is "safely" in Tony's half-guard, which is one place Khabib loves to attack from.

That said, Tony stands a better chance than Conor...

  

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25. "hmm better than Maia? definitely more complete"
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maybe that's the difference between a guy that has added wrestling onto a world-class level BJJ base vs. a guy who has sambo, judo and freestyle wrestling throughout his foundation

When I talk to people at my job from the casual fan to a guy that has been training jiujitsu for years, they can't get over the level of force he can generate while also not compromising anything with his base and control of the opponent. He seems to be very conscious of the fact that the road back up to the feet starts with the legs and he wraps up and shuts down the legs better than anyone in the game. I wonder if Tony is strong enough to drag the fight back up to standing since it's almost a certainty the fight will end up there at some point.

Tony's strengths really only play into Khabib's strengths. He likes creatives sweeps... that means Khabib has to have attempted to take him down which is bad news. He likes to work submissions from bottom, that means he has to withstand the best top pressure in MMA. I agree that I don't see anybody beating him right now if he's at 100%

  

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29. "MMA related - El Cucuy skill study"
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All the strengths they address in this video can get Tony eaten up by Khabib

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V71AOI25LKQ

Bladed Square Dance... basically you are just making Khabib choose between if he wants to shoot a single if you're bladed or double if you're square lol.

Spinning Elbows... soooo you're gonna turn your back on a Dagestani?

Elbows from guard... but Khabib will be in side control soooo

  

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31. "I love Khabib, hes also my favorite fighter now and want him to win"
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But I also think Tony is being undersold quite a bit. He's a D1 level athlete with dangerous/tricky striking and still a competenmt ground game. 10 fights in a riow at the diviusion.


>All the strengths they address in this video can get Tony
>eaten up by Khabib
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V71AOI25LKQ
>
>Bladed Square Dance... basically you are just making Khabib
>choose between if he wants to shoot a single if you're bladed
>or double if you're square lol.
>
>Spinning Elbows... soooo you're gonna turn your back on a
>Dagestani?
>
>Elbows from guard... but Khabib will be in side control soooo
>
>

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32. "I hope you're right"
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The difference in level of domination between Khabib's last wins vs Tony's are really what's making the projections though

  

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33. "RE: I hope you're right"
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It keeps going back and forth publicly. Tony has an impressive perormance and it flips. I mean he beat Thompson Dos anjos and Barboza then his stock was sky high before the kind of unimpressive (but still finish) of kevin Lee

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34. "tony didn't beat kevin, staph beat kevin © kevin"
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grossest example of a staph infection i've seen in a minute

  

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35. "A W is a W an L is an L"
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he shouldnt have fought with Staph, and since he did, no excuses.

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36. "Tony woulda got him regardless"
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I'm just bullshitting about staph being THE factor

I was in the camp that this is the best fight possible for the division, but now I'm just thinking how does Tony fend him off?

He has the length and the striking to delay the inevitable but can he withstand the pressure

  

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37. "Did anyone make it for a trial class?"
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38. "this post is cool, glad to see people int bjj, martial arts in general."
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39. "up cause im bored"
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40. "gonna train at the downtown brooklyn masterskya this saturday"
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you down?

  

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41. "RE: gonna train at the downtown brooklyn masterskya this saturday"
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Maybe....

Saturday is John's last day before he has his kid. Hes gonna be out 3 months or so...so i may train at MGA. I do want to get a day in at Masterskya though

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42. "RE: gonna train at the downtown brooklyn masterskya this saturday"
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Purple belt John? Oh shit
I had coffee with him and Peter last weekend. I didn't realize he had a baby so soon on the way

But the new location is dope. I could probably walk there in 5-10 minutes from the crib so I might alternate there and MGA on Saturdays.


  

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43. "RE: gonna train at the downtown brooklyn masterskya this saturday"
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>Purple belt John? Oh shit
>I had coffee with him and Peter last weekend. I didn't realize
>he had a baby so soon on the way
>
>But the new location is dope. I could probably walk there in
>5-10 minutes from the crib so I might alternate there and MGA
>on Saturdays.
>
>
>
Nah, grants homie John who took that Paul private with us back in the day. he started training a lot more recently, but he does AM crew.

have you actually trained there yet?

Id prefer them Sunday (but they are ogi Sundays)

They have an open mat friday night that I may do to get closer to home friday evenings

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44. "RE: gonna train at the downtown brooklyn masterskya this saturday"
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nah haven't trained there but Matt told me they opened a location in Downtown Brooklyn so I hit Alex Masterskya up on IG. I had already been thinking of maybe doing Boxing / Wrestling at Class One MMA since it's also close. the MMA fighting female purple from MGA teaches nogi there I think.

I was debating Saturday or Sunday myself, but just went with Saturday since it will probably be the better attended

it's been a bitch getting in and out of the city especially 23rd st on the weekend. would be nice to keep it local in BK.

I'll let you know how it goes

  

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47. "how was it?"
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48. "I caught a bad cold so I didn't go smh"
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Told him I'm going next Saturday.

  

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45. "Saw this up and was thinking someone got a purple belt"
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46. "RE: Saw this up and was thinking someone got a purple belt"
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Lmao too soon. I don’t want mynpurple til at least our winter ceremony. I’m not a purple yet. I’m a tough blue if you let me play my game, but if you force me to play guard...I’m pretty bad. Give me 8 more months and I’ll feeel a lot better about my guard. Over the past 2 months I’ve been working it more

Need to make my closed guard more offensive
Continue my work with DLRx guard which is my favorite open guard
And I’m getting better at half guard as a recovery guard when I get passed. I use guards for transitions to my top game though, I hate being In guard too long.

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49. "What are y'all working on plugging into your game?"
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Bottom Game:

- old school butterfly guard sweeps
- transitioning to X-guard and subs from X
- lasso guard and getting to omoplatas from it

Top game:

- leg drags
- taking the back

the main thing for me is the timing of everything. I'm a hair slower than more seasoned black belts (and younger, more athletic dudes)

Competition:
- pushing myself to my mental and physical edge and trying to find more in the tank
- finding the guys who give me the worst time at the end of a sparring session and having them push me to the point of wanting to quit

I got complacent right after getting promoted to black but now I got the hunger back. I also came to understand fully that there are no bad training days regardless of if you're the hammer, the nail or the wood being nailed.

  

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50. "I hear you on training with the younger competitors"
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some of the younger competitor blues will just murk me relentlessly.

Bottom Game:

left side - single leg X entry to sweep
right side - DLR to back take
half guard - half guard sweep / back take tandem
better timing on hook sweep / butterfly sweeps while opponent is passing

really, really, really, need to get more subs from my back. I have not landed a single armbar from closed guard in training. Was catching triangles for a little while, but it's been some time.

also, I keep almost catching guys in the loop choke when they are trying to pass, but not finishing


Top game:

build chain of submissions from side control
build an over-under / smash-pass game: so far have been using standing passing, but with a healing ankle, I can't use agility and footwork as much

  

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53. "RE: I hear you on training with the younger competitors"
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ahhh yea... finishing triangles.

I cnat do that anymore. I just get stuck adn stacked on my shoulders and cant back up to make space.


Such a mindfuck when you have that triangle, youre squeezing or cutting angle, and then you finally have to give it up and youre stuck in side control

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51. "I'm not really implementing anything new at the moment."
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I've been a brown belt since Dec 2016. Had a talk with my instructor, and he essentially said he just wants me refining my game and able to define it. So I've mostly just been trying to tighten everything up, and get rid of any mistakes I make.

  

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55. "This must be the toughest part of the journey"
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being so close

I see some guys who have been brown for a minute and working with what the expectations are from them as leaders as well as jiujitsu wise. I've heard guys talking about being suspended years ago for fighting and feeling the need to actively engage people positively because of that. Others kind of seem to not care.

But yeah it seems like it can be the longest mile to walk

  

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56. "It's not that bad really."
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Before I was being given much larger tasks and goals to work on - it's kind of nice being told to just improve on a macro level.

I mean, I work on the small details myself, and I work on timing, leverage, etc... but honestly, it's been a a bit liberating to just go to the gym and just work on whatever I want, or conversely, nothing at all. Just go in and roll and see what presents itself that day.

*shrug*

If I have questions or need to troubleshoot or workshop stuff, my instructor always, always jumps in and helps.

  

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64. "Any plans for when you get the black?"
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would you like to open a school, or teach more extensively?

Do you plan to train just as consistently as before?

  

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69. "Only plan I have is to get a dope belt."
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I have always bought cheap to average gis and belts - I figure for black I will finally get some nice shit.


>would you like to open a school, or teach more extensively?


I don't have any aspirations to open an academy, particularly since the area I live in is already oversaturated. If I moved to an area where there wasn't a school within 30 minutes or so or there wasn't a gym I felt comfortable with, then I would probably open a school. But otherwise, I'm good.

I still am always learning new things from my instructor. Getting a black belt won't change that and motivate me to leave.


>
>Do you plan to train just as consistently as before?
>
>


Yeah, I'll maintain the same schedule as long as I can. I train 2-5x/week.

  

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70. "I got mine from here"
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excellent quality. Embroidering was a lil pricey but I figured since it'd probably be the belt I wear til I die in, it might as well be nice.

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75. "Gotta get some dope katakana / kanji embroidered on it!"
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52. "Mostly focusing on playing guard"
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and being more comfortable there. Over the last 2 months of playing more guard, I would say I dont have a good guard, but I have figured out how to get to recovery guards. I can get passed and be a lot more proactive finding and underhook or getting underneath my opponent to get to half or deep half.

Still a lot of work to do there.

In terms of guard, in my mind I have a map of where I want to be

Closed Guard
- collar choke
- armbar
- triangle
-hip bump
-back take
(I can do all these, but need to tighten them up technically).

Once they stand, sleeve grips to Day 1 sweep, or Leandro Lo Mermaid sweep

If i have to open my legs then I try to get to DLR. If I can get DlR im trying to get the DLR x hook in. Im more and more comfortable with DLRX as my strongest guard...but of course the battle is getting there.


Sometimes in training when I get the DLRX inm, guys just sit and let me come up...which kind of sucks. I find at MGA people still play guard more so sometimes I try to play guard and guys wont let me lo. My instinct is to just come up on top.




On top I love to half guard smash pass. Its my best move, but Im trying to add some variety to it. At the beinning of the roll im trying to control your hips to either side and go to work. If I cant get you to half, I can get you to butterfly and work from there. There's a skip leg drag to dope mount I've hit a couple times, that's a nice option 2 from the halfguartd pressure pass, and also getting around to the back side.

Ive also been playing a lot with leandro Lo passing from DLR. Stuffing the DLR hook, spamming for an underhook on that side and using active postinbg and pressure to get past.


I need to refine my closed guard and spider/lasso guard passing.... but Not enough guys are playing it on me


Im working with a few different finishes right now from side control...sharpening my north south and looking for farside armbars

Ive spent a lot of time with a lapel choke I learned from Bernardo, and I still hit it a lot, but I want to add some variety here.



I need to work on my standup in a major way too if I continue want to compete


>Bottom Game:
>
>- old school butterfly guard sweeps
>- transitioning to X-guard and subs from X
>- lasso guard and getting to omoplatas from it
>
>Top game:
>
>- leg drags
>- taking the back
>
>the main thing for me is the timing of everything. I'm a hair
>slower than more seasoned black belts (and younger, more
>athletic dudes)
>
>Competition:
>- pushing myself to my mental and physical edge and trying to
>find more in the tank
>- finding the guys who give me the worst time at the end of a
>sparring session and having them push me to the point of
>wanting to quit
>
>I got complacent right after getting promoted to black but now
>I got the hunger back. I also came to understand fully that
>there are no bad training days regardless of if you're the
>hammer, the nail or the wood being nailed.

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54. "RE: Mostly focusing on playing guard"
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oh and im doing more nogi and actually starting to enjoy it

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57. "Nephew heading west to train at Jackson/Wink...."
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He's 22 but he has been building up to this for years.

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59. "RE: Nephew heading west to train at Jackson/Wink...."
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Hes an MMA guy? what promotions has he fought in?

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76. "RE: Nephew heading west to train at Jackson/Wink...."
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Hasn't fought in promotions, but has trained locally with cats that do. Wrestled in high school, had a great Sifu, got up to Brown belt then his trifling ass mama sabotaged the shit and wouldn't pay for classes. Took him with me to Capoeira. He is serious about it. Been trying to get him to head west for years, and he finally went last week.

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60. "Prime age. Wish I had started training younger"
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77. "True. "
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61. "Dirty White Belt Radio"
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Covers BJJ in the Southeast and is likely expanding its focus nationally very soon. My boy founded it and I understand it to get rave reviews from dedicated practionners and big-name guests.

http://www.dirtywhitebelt.com/

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63. "RE: Dirty White Belt Radio"
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Nice, Ive listened to some of their episodes. Werent you thinking about training forr awhile? Was it through this friend?

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66. "yeah it was through the friend"
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torn rotator cuff and bicep (from yoga!) probably put paid to that idea forever, though. now i won't do anything with that shoulder that i don't feel completely comfortable with.

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67. "RE: yeah it was through the friend"
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yea jiujitsu on a bad shoulder is TOUGH


damn man wtf kind of yoga were you doing?


We have a yoga/pilates teacher cme every thursday to our jiujitsu studio to teach a class. She runs that shit hard, and we sometimes jokingly call it Submission Yoga...but never felt close to injuring myself like that

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68. "10+ year of power yoga, various forms"
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Culminating with 3.5 hour sessions and 12 hour weekends during teacher training, which progressed to starting a daily ashtanga practice while approaching 40. That’s way too many chatarangas and a recipe for a repetive stress injuries. Morale of the story: intelligence doesn’t keep one from being really fucking stupid

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65. "saved it to Pocket for later"
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71. "One of our coaches, Matheus Diniz-- Kasai MW champ"
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didnt have a single point scored on him.

I wouldve liked to see Matheus vs Craig Jones, but im happier Matheus got the W

Love the tight (upper body) but Dynamic hip movement passing hes been using for the last year or so. Hopefully he can get after Lo this year and win Worlds/

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72. "AYO"
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>Love the tight (upper body) but Dynamic hip movement

It's funny cause Craig Jones did a seminar at Masterskya and so the lesson was going over a heel hook set-up he taught off the g-roll when I went on Saturday (bro by the way I felt like I was cheating on my wife learning heel hooks for the first time). Everybody is on a big Craig Jones high based on his recent performances and to be honest I thought he would be going to the finals too.

I know Matheus is a fucking savage and had a good chance to win Group B, but he exceeded my expectations. He was by far the most old school in his progress-through-positions approach and the fact that he actually went for takedowns, but he was also super wrestley. From how he looked during his really impressive run at EBI to how he looked at Kasai, his style is just way more grinding now. His transitions are still super fast, though.

  

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73. "RE: AYO"
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>
>>Love the tight (upper body) but Dynamic hip movement
>
>It's funny cause Craig Jones did a seminar at Masterskya and
>so the lesson was going over a heel hook set-up he taught off
>the g-roll when I went on Saturday (bro by the way I felt like
>I was cheating on my wife learning heel hooks for the first
>time). Everybody is on a big Craig Jones high based on his
>recent performances and to be honest I thought he would be
>going to the finals too.
>

You went to that? How many other celebs or MGA guys? I saw eddie and Ottavia were there. Craig is good, but he gets lots of social media love like Keenan because he is...WHITE.

Mike perez is good though. He gamed that fight right to win. It sucks cause imo he was running a lot of it, but it wasnt blatant enough to lose.



>I know Matheus is a fucking savage and had a good chance to
>win Group B, but he exceeded my expectations. He was by far
>the most old school in his progress-through-positions approach
>and the fact that he actually went for takedowns, but he was
>also super wrestley. From how he looked during his really
>impressive run at EBI to how he looked at Kasai, his style is
>just way more grinding now. His transitions are still super
>fast, though.


Yea group B was so much easier once DJ jackson pulled out. I was mad the non-Shawn Williams dude was acting like Matheus passed and stalled. He would pass and guys would just shell up. I was glad he looked good on the feet. At pans (albeit in the Gi) he was getting beat on teh feet a lot

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74. "Nah when I went to the class they were still hype about the seminar"
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I think the seminar was the week prior

>Mike perez is good though. He gamed that fight right to win.
>It sucks cause imo he was running a lot of it, but it wasnt
>blatant enough to lose.

For sure he did.

>Yea group B was so much easier once DJ jackson pulled out. I
>was mad the non-Shawn Williams dude was acting like Matheus
>passed and stalled. He would pass and guys would just shell
>up. I was glad he looked good on the feet. At pans (albeit in
>the Gi) he was getting beat on teh feet a lot

Yeah that was laughable about the stalling insinuations. Most aggressive guy in the tournament.

I have a feeling the Sub Only crowd vs. the IBJJF crowd is just going to not put emphasis on takedowns or even sweeps as much. I rolled with a really good purple on Saturday from 10th Planet in PA and when I swept him he was like 'oh yeah I just give up sweeps I don't care about points' and he was really into sub-only reflecting real life etc. Obviously with strikes IBJJF is already building real life into the points and you should definitely work NOT to get swept whenever possible, but it's just bizarre people's games will be so different based on what rule-set they train for.

  

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78. "here we go, signed up for an intro class next week at Meraki in LA"
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79. "Congrats man...."
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how did you choose? Closest location?

That space is absolutely beautiful. I want to live there lol.

From all Ive heard Kenny is a good coach.

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88. "mostly the location"
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i moved to westwood this past weekend. plus what T Reynolds was saying about how it's a BJJ specific gym rather than an MMA type of place, seems more focused

  

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81. "Looks like a cool gym"
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Great location over near Sawtelle and a cool aesthetic they got going on. Also cool that Kenny Florian is an MMA guy that opened a pure jiujitsu school rather than an MMA gym. Seems like a guy that will emphasize a good school culture. Also a big plus that they offer a judo class. Take advantage of that!


  

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87. "yeah, the judo class was a very nice bonus"
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80. "Our other coach Marcos Tinoco ran through his Div at Brasilieros"
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LOl 4 submissions in 5 matches.

The 1st 3 subs

Armbar, Anke Lock, NS choke....all different parts of the body


Beat Yago De Souza in the final...


Its Worlds Season!!!

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82. "Professor really coming on recently"
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It was really crazy how long he held that NS with the arm in then adjusted to get the pressure the way he wanted it.

  

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84. "yea man was gonne comment on that"
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he was just so patient. Good lesson for me there...to not rush it. I actually had a similar position today and my arm was held. I thought to myself "what did marcos do" and just waited till I freed my hand...then settled for the choke.

In a 5 min training round though, sometimes you dont have that much time.

The pressure there mustve been insane. When the dude got up he was rubbing his head and maybe tearing up a bit.

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86. "I remember a class with a bunch of the spunky white belts"
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Marcos was teaching

Every round he would just tap them with pressure from side control lol

I'd like to think I wouldn't tap to his pressure but I probably would

  

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83. "Here they are..."
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BifUL8RFQLJ/?taken-by=hanafishersilva
armbar from guard pull

NS choke in two parts
https://www.instagram.com/p/BicapGdFzgC/?taken-by=hanafishersilva
The setup
https://www.instagram.com/p/BicbEKOl_b8/?taken-by=hanafishersilva
the finish

https://www.instagram.com/p/BicZTm3F0Xa/?taken-by=hanafishersilva
Ankle lock

Opening Round Armbar
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85. "paul's comment on that first armbar says it all"
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89. "Shawn and Trey - any info on Paul's next dvd w/ Digitsu?"
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What it is on, when it is coming out, etc.

I'm not huge on DVDs but I love both of his.

I also got the Eddie Cummings seminar on Digitsu, and it's pretty good.

  

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90. "Good question, I'll ask around and come back. "
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I know in the gym he's been working on a ton of cool bolos and backtakes with Gianni and a couple of the really good brown belts at the gym.

He just shouted out Matt Darcy's new Iron Maiden Back Control set on IG, which I promptly bought this morning. I hadn't heard of him before but he runs Guerrilla BJJ and is a 2nd degree Camarillo bb. It's good so far.

But yeah I love the 1/2 DVD. So far I've only worked on the most basic 2 or 3 half guard set-ups and sweeps while sparring but it's been pretty awesome revisiting 1/2 over and over again as you try out the techniques in live sparring. the Pressure Passing dvd I haven't really drilled and worked on as much. I'm going to try to start drilling some more to work out these techniques before classes.

Did you watch Kasai 3? What did you think?


  

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91. "Thanks for asking around."
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I've gone over/drilled the Pressure Passing material many times, but 1/2 only a bit. I like 1/2, though.

I saw that Iron Maiden back control, too, but didn't know that guy. I know Dave and Dan have interesting back mount and guard techniques, so not surprised to hear he is a Camarillo black belt.

Haven't watched Kasai 3. Wasn't surprised one bit to read about about Paul Harris.

90% of my YouTube/internet grappling viewing these days is wrestling, judo, and MMA grappling. That's where my head and game has been. I've been working on takedowns and non-sport oriented BJJ a lot the past 1.5 years.

  

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92. "Been out since Monday with a shoulder but I shot some texts"
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sounds like they are keeping the release date and full content pretty quiet. All I heard was the same thing I later saw you can find online, that it's a conceptual dvd. Weird that it's been like 7 months since they finished filming, but Digitsu doesn't even have a release date.

clip you probably saw: https://www.facebook.com/DigitsuOnline/videos/1908690492505621/

Shawn has been busy lately but hopefully he can weigh in.

With the pressure passing, I still find myself more comfortable using some speed or athleticism to pass rather than heavy shoulders, hips, head positioning that is the bread and butter of pressure passing. Demian Maia showed a great detail to use shoulder pressure to get out of a pesky quarter-guard at his seminar though, so I've been using that. It's funny because it's the guys that have a glacier like, monstrous-grip, slow advance passing technique that are killing me in training recently.

I've been doing a wrestling class at the academy and it's improved my comfort with takedown techniques. Head positioning, shot / re-shot, levels of defense (head, hands, forearms, hips, and escapes / tricks).

Something I noticed with some of our seasoned brown belts is that they focus less on sport and get back to the old school aspects. I rolled with one recently and he was showing multiple wrist locks during positional sparring where I was on the back (without finishing) and also slowly applied a knee on neck submission. Grade A in-the-streets stuff.

Kasai 3 was cool to attend and the round robin was pretty fun. I thought the Calestine / Grippo decision was lame, but I guess JC had more attacks. Grippo outworked him and out-positioned him which should still count towards the decision, but whatever.

  

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93. "RE: Been out since Monday with a shoulder but I shot some texts"
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>
>With the pressure passing, I still find myself more
>comfortable using some speed or athleticism to pass rather
>than heavy shoulders, hips, head positioning that is the bread
>and butter of pressure passing.


I started out a pressure passer, became a mobility passer, went back to pressure passing, and now do a hybrid version of both. The goal for me is be able to alternate btwn the two styles, so the opponent isn't able to predict what route you will take, especially if you mix passing to both sides, rather than just one. It can be overwhelming for the guard player.


Demian Maia showed a great
>detail to use shoulder pressure to get out of a pesky
>quarter-guard at his seminar though, so I've been using that.
>It's funny because it's the guys that have a glacier like,
>monstrous-grip, slow advance passing technique that are
>killing me in training recently.


That's the point - pressure passing drains the opponent, and also utilizes the least amount of energy for the passer, when properly done. By the time you pass, the opponent is exhausted, and you are still fresh and can proceed quickly to attacking the submission. This is one way to keep ahead of the opponent.



>
>I've been doing a wrestling class at the academy and it's
>improved my comfort with takedown techniques. Head
>positioning, shot / re-shot, levels of defense (head, hands,
>forearms, hips, and escapes / tricks).


Nice! I have a feeling you would give me a hard time.


>
>Something I noticed with some of our seasoned brown belts is
>that they focus less on sport and get back to the old school
>aspects. I rolled with one recently and he was showing
>multiple wrist locks during positional sparring where I was on
>the back (without finishing) and also slowly applied a knee on
>neck submission. Grade A in-the-streets stuff.
>


For me, and I also wonder how much this is true for others, but there is definitely a positive correlation btwn the old-school game and aging and accumulation of injuries. I've been doing this for a little over 8 years (ages 28-37 in November), with only 2 extended breaks that weren't even all that long. So all that mat time and the natural aging process has definitely molded my propensity towards old-school/old-man BJJ.

Also, I feel like I've seen so many BJJ trends come and go, but the basics/old-school game has always stayed the same, and for most folks (i.e. non-pros) that is probably the best and safest BJJ path that you can ever be on. One that you can do for the rest of your jiu-jitsu "life". Plus, it's fun, bc the old-school game is probably the most ruthless and imposing. : )

  

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94. "great points I will keep in mind"
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>The goal for me is be able to alternate btwn the two
>styles, so the opponent isn't able to predict what route you
>will take, especially if you mix passing to both sides, rather
>than just one. It can be overwhelming for the guard player.

>That's the point - pressure passing drains the opponent, and
>also utilizes the least amount of energy for the passer, when
>properly done. By the time you pass, the opponent is
>exhausted, and you are still fresh and can proceed quickly to
>attacking the submission. This is one way to keep ahead of the
>opponent.

>For me, and I also wonder how much this is true for others,
>but there is definitely a positive correlation btwn the
>old-school game and aging and accumulation of injuries. I've
>been doing this for a little over 8 years (ages 28-37 in
>November), with only 2 extended breaks that weren't even all
>that long. So all that mat time and the natural aging process
>has definitely molded my propensity towards old-school/old-man
>BJJ.
>
>Also, I feel like I've seen so many BJJ trends come and go,
>but the basics/old-school game has always stayed the same, and
>for most folks (i.e. non-pros) that is probably the best and
>safest BJJ path that you can ever be on. One that you can do
>for the rest of your jiu-jitsu "life". Plus, it's fun, bc the
>old-school game is probably the most ruthless and imposing.
>: )

haha, only a jiujitsu guy would say fun, ruthless and imposing in the same sentence

I'm 37 myself, so I'm definitely working to keep myself healthy actively. Another old head who is a beast just put me up on turmeric which I just started taking along with Triflex (glucosamine and chondroitin).

That's impressive that you've only had a couple breaks over a pretty long career.

  

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95. "RE: great points I will keep in mind"
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>
>I'm 37 myself, so I'm definitely working to keep myself
>healthy actively. Another old head who is a beast just put me
>up on turmeric which I just started taking along with Triflex
>(glucosamine and chondroitin).



I've been thinking about turmeric. I've done BJJ with and without fish oil, and I definitely notice a difference when I am off it.


>
>That's impressive that you've only had a couple breaks over a
>pretty long career.
>


One 4 month break when I switched gyms (...gym drama, of course), and one 6 month period where I would only go once every couple weeks or so (due to having our first child, while working a third shift job).

  

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97. "Starting today"
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The gym I'm going with does a month-long, 2x/week grappling basics class geared toward new folks.

After that you can start attending other classes/open mat.

Hopefully my fat, out of shape ass makes it. The class I observed was not super intense and after warm-up was all drilling a sequence with focus on technique and class size was pretty small (like 10-12 people).

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98. "You 100% will make it"
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Congrats on getting in there

The aim is retention so I'm sure it will be manageable.

Is there live rolling in the basics class or just technique?

I started real slow myself, 1x a week just technique no rolling, then 2x a week, then have been going 3x a week for the last 3 years.

  

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101. "thanks man"
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here is the spot:

www.elevatemmacademy.com

i don't know if there is any live rolling in the basics class. i didn't see any when i visited and it was the second to last class of the cycle. the class basically just worked on learning the sequence for sweep after the warm-up was completed. i would be surprised if there was any live rolling at all.

owner, head instructor of the school is a BB under Robert Drysdale and i stayed to watch him teach the gi class after basics. really appreciated his teaching style. space is limited and the mats were crowded during gi and the rolling class after that.

thanks for the support will keep y'all posted

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104. "That gym looks really nice"
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A Drysdale black belt is as official as it gets.

I'm guessing you are going for the Basecamp classes, but do they only actually roll in the Rolling classes? That would be interesting.


  

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106. "My guess is no, since its an hour"
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but looking at their site it doenst say yes, doesnt say no.

Maybe some real basic supervised rolling

Welcome to the Tribe, for our newest members we have designed a program to give the true essentials for starting your journey. Students will be exposed to the fundamentals of grappling, with an emphasis on correct body mechanics and continual progression.


Throughout this course students will learn:
Basic solo ground movements
Positions on the ground
How to takedown your opponent and prevent takedowns
Controlling your opponent with proper technique and leverage
Escaping from bottom position
How to grapple in an efficient manner


This course will serve as an on ramp for new students, where they can expect to receive greater individual attention as they prepare for the consistent classes.

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112. "Oh, hey. Looks like we live in the same area."
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>here is the spot:
>
>www.elevatemmacademy.com
>


I've rolled with Cody before; he's talented. I've never been to his gym, but I've heard lots of good things about him/it. If I'm being honest, I've heard some not so nice things, too. However, that's pretty much any BJJ gym, especially around the Triangle.

I've also stopped in at the Lepri affiliate you may have been interested in and trained with Tony. Tony is very good also. Same situation I just mentioned. Good and bad. Unfortunately, that comes with doing BJJ. Lots of egos and machismo.

I should say I've never seen either Tony or Cody teach, so I can't speak to their ability.

If you ever make it to Durham to train, feel free to hit me up.

  

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121. "inbox"
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n/m

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99. "Dope man...im just seeing your inbox so my bad..."
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I dont know if you went with the Lucas Lepri affiliate, but man I love Lucas. probably my favorite modern competitor. he's so good from everywhere.

Also, impulse who is our resident upper belt is from NC I think so he may have a good pulse (no pun) on the schools there.


Looks like you found something. For someone as athletic as you with combat sports experience, Im gonna guess the foundations class (while great for fundamental and techniques) will feel boring for you in terms of cardio and getting an actual workout in. I know thats how I felt doing fundamental only.There was a guy kinda like you that was fuckin all us true white belts up and teaching us shit lol. appreciated the safe space to not get thrown into live rolls. Inevitably though when you start rolling, you will get fucked up and tapped left and right.

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102. "RE: Dope man...im just seeing your inbox so my bad..."
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all good homie. don't even worry about it

I ended up choosing Elevate because it's so much closer and didn't want to deal with traffic being a potential blocker. I visited and got a good feel from the gym, Cody and the community.

plus, i appreciated the Foundations type approach as an intro. and my background no longer applies so i am legit nervous about even the rudimentary conditioning aspects. plus i'm nursing sedentary lifestyle/desk job injuries so I'm good on doing a crazy warm-up or any of that shit until I get back toward some modicum of fitness.

i'll definitely keep you posted. thanks to you and the rest of the folks for your contributions to this post

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107. "His performance at worlds was legendary"
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really nice guy too when he visited MGA

I love his nogi instructional

  

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109. "yea, if NJ was actually in Charlotte I wouldve been like"
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No questions asked, have to go to Lucas'

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100. "Anyone else wanna try BJJ after watching Khabib maul McG"
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with grappling. Let Trey, Impulse and I know....

LOl i guess you can try Sambo too....

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103. "B-b-but Danis said that Sambo is shit!"
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"Things aren't looking too good for black people right now PR-wise"
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Patrice O'Neal

  

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105. "how do you grade Conor's grappling against khabib?"
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part of me says ok considering, but could he have done more?

  

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108. "I think overall he did okay til he got finished"
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I mean he took a lot less damage in GNP than a lot of "better" grapplers. He did a good job of dirty grappling -- holding the cage and gloves to keep himself relatively safe. His TD defense wasnt as good as I thought it would with his athleticism and hip movement, but he kinda slipped away once or twice I think. he got out of that Kimura which some people are saying Khabib let go ---- but then he made like the pre-white belt mistake of just getting frustrated and giving up his back. I mean I dont know what it feels like to be punched while grappling, and when you are getting punched, turtling seems like a nice option im sure....

On the flip side, Khabibs pressure and transitions between positions is so good.

LOL this thread is gold

https://www.reddit.com/r/bjj/comments/9meons/stuff_nongrapplers_have_said_about_khabib_vs/

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110. "Yeah the first take down he defended ok at first, khabib was just not "
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letting go of that low single. He stuffed a couple shots well in the third I believe.

I'm surprised he didn't limp leg the way Ragin Al had so much success doing, or use lateral movement + sprawls.

But yeah first round he wasn't even gassing himself under khabib, and didn't take much punishment. Second round he caught some big shots but nowhere near Edson Barboza levels. And not for nothing but as hard as Khabib throws those, why is he not knocking more people out in GNP?

he definitely got himself out of the kimura, I also saw that dumb comment that khabib let him live so he could make him suffer more lol

Yeah, I saw that thread on reddit. Thank God the resident MMA expert hasn't come over to my desk to shower me with his knowledge yet, but it'll get here. He'll say something outlandish that seems totally logical to him on what Conor could have done differently smh lol.




  

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113. "Just to be clear"
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>He did a good job of dirty grappling --
>holding the cage and gloves to keep himself relatively safe.

all of this was illegal and Herb Dean should have stopped McGregor when this was going down, especially the grabbing of the gloves. If I'm not mistaken, McGregor grabbed the cage with his hands and his toes on more than one occasion.

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114. "I thought he did pretty bad."
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The only times he was successful was when he cheated. Which was almost every minute of every grappling exchange. (What the hell is Dillon coaching him on? Conor's grappling looks about the same as before he started training with Dillon.)

The small amount of success he had was bc he a) grabbed Khabib's shorts, b) grabbed Khabib's gloves, or c) kept his guard down when standing. And that led to him getting dropped.

There was just basic shit Conor was doing wrong. I think after the Diaz submission and this one by Khabib, I agree that Conor looks for ways out of the fight when he is losing. I mean, he gave up his back way too easy both submissions.

  

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115. "You don't agree with Gordo's assessment? "
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Gordon looked unstoppable at Quintet 3 by the way. But he basically said Conor's jiujitsu was a lot better than he's been given credit for, even though he still can't defend the back but I think he was broken by that point, didn't manage to sweep or threaten with any subs but mitigated damage, recovered guard after mounted, conserved energy etc. he didn't absorb as much damage as guys who are less comfortable on the ground like edson because he made small adjustments, recovered his hooks, overhooked / underhooked the arms. If you take this Conor and put him up against Mendes again I think he looks much better on the ground. He already proved his improvement against Nate the second time around, and I think he will have improved even more by this point.

Tony for sure will give Khabib more problems, on the feet and on the ground, i think.

  

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116. "RE: You don't agree with Gordo's assessment? "
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I think you also gotta separate sport from fight a bit. Not to get all Gracie, but maybe you're right in terms of sport bjj there's a lot more improvement to be made. But in a fight BJJ perspective... dirty grappling is more allowed and acceptab;le while using basic bjj principles and techniques

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117. "PS quintet looks fun as fuck"
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I didnt see this last one yet, but love the format and read the PBP recap

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118. "I haven't read it."
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>Gordon looked unstoppable at Quintet 3 by the way. But he
>basically said Conor's jiujitsu was a lot better than he's
>been given credit for,


Eh, that strikes me as opportunistic and Gordon angling to get in Conor's good graces with a comment like that.


even though he still can't defend the
>back but I think he was broken by that point, didn't manage to
>sweep


I've watched the fight 4 times now. I don't recall Conor even attempting a sweep or sub, and his escapes did not look good. I don't think he ever even got close to getting back up after each takedown.


>or threaten with any subs but mitigated damage,


I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say this, if Conor wasn't getting hit, he was probably hooking Khabib's gloves. When he wasn't able to do that, he almost got finished (round 2).


>recovered guard after mounted,


I remember him doing that once. I think Khabib is fine with not passing, which is how partially how Conor got his guard back. Khabib is not afraid to strike in the guard.



conserved energy etc. he didn't
>absorb as much damage as guys who are less comfortable on the
>ground like edson because he made small adjustments, recovered
>his hooks, overhooked / underhooked the arms.


I don't remember Conor getting either overhooks or underhooks. I will say, at least Edson was able to get back up and (I think) break away a few times from Khabib, despite getting taken back down again. But keep in mind the Edson fight was 3 rounds. After watching the Iaquinta and MsGregor fights, you can clearly see Khabib does pace himself in the 5 rounders. The 3 round fights he goes ham, and is definitely inflicting a lot of damage faster.


If you take this
>Conor and put him up against Mendes again I think he looks
>much better on the ground.


I think Mendes that does a full camp beats Conor, especially now that we've seen the blueprint.


He already proved his improvement
>against Nate the second time around, and I think he will have
>improved even more by this point.


I didn't think he looked better against Nate the second time. He just came with a game plan and stuck to it instead of throwing everything he had behind the left hand. Essentially his/Kavanaugh's game plan was the JacksonWink point-fight game plan. Conor even turn and ran like some of the JacksonWink fighters do.

  

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119. "RE: I haven't read it."
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Tue Oct-09-18 04:56 PM by T Reynolds

  

          

>Eh, that strikes me as opportunistic and Gordon angling to get
>in Conor's good graces with a comment like that.

Oh, he openly angled for a job right after the comments. But if he was gonna knock Danis' coaching he would have done it like AJ Agazarm did and just basically said what Conor did was trash.

>I've watched the fight 4 times now. I don't recall Conor even
>attempting a sweep or sub, and his escapes did not look good.
>I don't think he ever even got close to getting back up after
>each takedown.

You are correct. He did not a once. He got his feet out of the legwrap and reestablished leg hooks, elevated. He got back up a couple times after takedowns though, but maybe you mean getting back up immediately. I've only watched it twice. To me, he didn't try a tripod sweep (he's hit one in a fight against diaz) in round 2 where he was getting bombed on but managing the hips of Khabib with his feet, because his hands were covering up so he couldn't create a push pull with his hands. He couldn't execute stuff he obviously knows how to do either because Khabib's base is crazy or he was frozen up.


>I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say this, if Conor
>wasn't getting hit, he was probably hooking Khabib's gloves.
>When he wasn't able to do that, he almost got finished (round
>2).

I don't think he was hooking gloves other than before Khabib started complaining. So round 1 I think went well for him. He took almost no damage.

>>recovered guard after mounted,
>
>
>I remember him doing that once. I think Khabib is fine with
>not passing, which is how partially how Conor got his guard
>back. Khabib is not afraid to strike in the guard.

It's not so much an issue of not passing it's that he recovered guard after being mounted which under khabib is a fight-ending position. I think he had half guard (not a good one since he was flattened) but he had good foot and leg positioning for a lot of the fight, he just didn't balance with good upper body control against Khabib because Khabib is so good.


>conserved energy etc. he didn't
>>absorb as much damage as guys who are less comfortable on
>the
>>ground like edson because he made small adjustments,
>recovered
>>his hooks, overhooked / underhooked the arms.
>
>
>I don't remember Conor getting either overhooks or underhooks.
>I will say, at least Edson was able to get back up and (I
>think) break away a few times from Khabib, despite getting
>taken back down again. But keep in mind the Edson fight was 3
>rounds. After watching the Iaquinta and MsGregor fights, you
>can clearly see Khabib does pace himself in the 5 rounders.
>The 3 round fights he goes ham, and is definitely inflicting a
>lot of damage faster.

That's a fair point, but Conor was also conserving energy on bottom due to the length of the fight. I know people laughed at Dom's comments, but I 100% believe Conor was letting Khabib tire himself out to a large extent. Khabib had almost every takedown thwarted by Iaquinta's limp leg. I know Al is a excellent wrestler so maybe Conor couldn't recreate that skillset under the time frame he had but he stuffed 2 or 3 takedowns straight up, just like he did against Diaz in the second fight. He almost escaped the first but couldn't de-incentivize Khabib's grip on his leg.

>If you take this
>>Conor and put him up against Mendes again I think he looks
>>much better on the ground.
>
>
>I think Mendes that does a full camp beats Conor, especially
>now that we've seen the blueprint.

I think wrestling is clearly Conor's kryptonite

>He already proved his improvement
>>against Nate the second time around, and I think he will
>have
>>improved even more by this point.
>
>
>I didn't think he looked better against Nate the second time.
>He just came with a game plan and stuck to it instead of
>throwing everything he had behind the left hand. Essentially
>his/Kavanaugh's game plan was the JacksonWink point-fight game
>plan. Conor even turn and ran like some of the JacksonWink
>fighters do.

People forget Diaz couldn't dominate him grappling because he couldn't get the fight to where he wanted it (not for lack of trying). Conor outboxed him straight up for the first two rounds, and then came back in the last rounds after Diaz started to turn it around like the first fight. If it DOES go to the ground I don't think Diaz' top pressure is strong enough to completely nullify Conor's jiujitsu like it did in this fight.

SO big question
Does Tony's elbows from bottom / rubber guard / funky 10th planet game give Khabib trouble?

  

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120. "Give him trouble... yes."
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Beat him... probably not.

Tony really pressures forward, which will give Khabib the easy takedown. I think Tony's guard is good, but I don't think it is better than Khabib's top game.

I think both of them will take a lot of damage, but I think ultimately Khabib wins. Tony's defense is not so good and he has gotten dropped a few times now.

I do think that if Tony wins it won't be from the guard, but it will be a Darce off a takedown.

  

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111. "inpulse:"
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https://www.reddit.com/r/bjj/comments/9miko1/ufc_vet_cole_miller_is_looking_to_hire_an/

Dont know about Warner Robbins....near Macon, military base...so you might get a crowd you dont really want to fuck with

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122. "Trey and Shawn -"
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Is Quinn Mulhern training at MGA now? I've seen him there in a few pictures on social media. I was thinking he was at 50/50 now, but I guess he moved on.

He's a really good guy. I trained with him for a month in Santa Fe back in 2012. Him and almost all of the other folks I met at GB Santa Fe were great folks and good jiujitsu, too.

Oh, one other thing - I am in the process of sending out PhD apps. I'm applying to a lot of schools, but NYU, Columbia, and John Jay are on my list. I would really like to go to NYU or John Jay. Who knows, maybe I'll be in your area permanently this time next year. Also, I was in Manhattan (stayed in the Lower East Side) a month ago for an overnight trip. I really wanted to stop in MGA, but there wasn't enough time.

  

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123. "Quinn is that dude"
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>Is Quinn Mulhern training at MGA now? I've seen him there in
>a few pictures on social media. I was thinking he was at 50/50
>now, but I guess he moved on.

He is at MGA full time and he did come from 50/50. his brother is actually Paul Schreiner, not sure if he moved up because of that or for other reasons, but he's been a great addition to our gym. I wonder if he is originally from that same Santa Cruz lineage as his brother or not.

>He's a really good guy. I trained with him for a month in
>Santa Fe back in 2012. Him and almost all of the other folks I
>met at GB Santa Fe were great folks and good jiujitsu, too.

Was in a group of four with him once (basically a shark tank positional sparring session for back control). He was so helpful with how to defend the choke and just with general tips that I still use. That's aside from being really cool as a staff member.

>Oh, one other thing - I am in the process of sending out PhD
>apps. I'm applying to a lot of schools, but NYU, Columbia, and
>John Jay are on my list. I would really like to go to NYU or
>John Jay. Who knows, maybe I'll be in your area permanently
>this time next year. Also, I was in Manhattan (stayed in the
>Lower East Side) a month ago for an overnight trip. I really
>wanted to stop in MGA, but there wasn't enough time.

Shit! That's cool! I went to NYU undergrad and my wife went to John Jay. She loved it. Wish you good luck on your applications and maybe one day you can join MGA! lol

or at least visit when you are in town.


  

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124. "RE: Quinn is that dude"
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>>Is Quinn Mulhern training at MGA now? I've seen him there
>in
>>a few pictures on social media. I was thinking he was at
>50/50
>>now, but I guess he moved on.
>
>He is at MGA full time and he did come from 50/50. his brother
>is actually Paul Schreiner, not sure if he moved up because of
>that or for other reasons, but he's been a great addition to
>our gym. I wonder if he is originally from that same Santa
>Cruz lineage as his brother or not.


Wait, what? Paul and Quinn are brothers? I had no idea. Funny bc you know I am big fan of Paul and his game, and I admired Quinn's a lot, too.

It's possible Quinn may remember me without seeing my face. It's worth a shot. You could mention my name, Justin; I was a blue belt at the time. Light-skinned, beard, built pretty much like Daniel Cormier. I was in SF for a month back in 2012, and my wife came out for a week and she trained there, too. Quinn (and Robert) were two of the kindest people I've met in jiujitsu and both are very talented.

I remember one time Quinn played Radiohead during sparring at open mat and I was cracking up about it. Like he played one of the really slow, depressing songs from In Rainbows, and I thought it was hilarious. I remember stopping mid-roll to look around the room to see if anyone noticed, but I was the only one.

I mentioned it to him in good fun a couple times, but I think he may have thought I was picking on him. Either way, he might remember that, too.

Of course, if you bring me up you get to have the awkward conversation of how we know each other from OKP and ... well, I'll let you decide that one.


>
>>He's a really good guy. I trained with him for a month in
>>Santa Fe back in 2012. Him and almost all of the other folks
>I
>>met at GB Santa Fe were great folks and good jiujitsu, too.
>
>Was in a group of four with him once (basically a shark tank
>positional sparring session for back control). He was so
>helpful with how to defend the choke and just with general
>tips that I still use. That's aside from being really cool as
>a staff member.


Yep, same. He introduced me to the N/S choke and the monoplata, and I still use his tips. I imagine he fit right in at MGA with his game. N/S is huge part of my game today.


>
>>Oh, one other thing - I am in the process of sending out PhD
>>apps. I'm applying to a lot of schools, but NYU, Columbia,
>and
>>John Jay are on my list. I would really like to go to NYU or
>>John Jay. Who knows, maybe I'll be in your area permanently
>>this time next year. Also, I was in Manhattan (stayed in the
>>Lower East Side) a month ago for an overnight trip. I really
>>wanted to stop in MGA, but there wasn't enough time.
>
>Shit! That's cool! I went to NYU undergrad and my wife went to
>John Jay. She loved it. Wish you good luck on your
>applications and maybe one day you can join MGA! lol
>
>or at least visit when you are in town.
>


Yeah, I'm applying to like 15 schools or so, but really hoping to get accepted by NYU, John Jay, UCLA, or Howard. I would love to live in NYC.

Even if I don't get accepted, I'll stop in MGA my next trip to NYC.

  

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125. "We got some interesting music choice at MGA lol"
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>Wait, what? Paul and Quinn are brothers? I had no idea. Funny
>bc you know I am big fan of Paul and his game, and I admired
>Quinn's a lot, too.

yep. official brothers they got pics as kids together. the way they move on the mat even outside of rolling is similar

>It's possible Quinn may remember me without seeing my face.
>It's worth a shot. You could mention my name, Justin; I was a
>blue belt at the time. Light-skinned, beard, built pretty much
>like Daniel Cormier. I was in SF for a month back in 2012, and
>my wife came out for a week and she trained there, too. Quinn
>(and Robert) were two of the kindest people I've met in
>jiujitsu and both are very talented.
>
>I remember one time Quinn played Radiohead during sparring at
>open mat and I was cracking up about it. Like he played one of
>the really slow, depressing songs from In Rainbows, and I
>thought it was hilarious. I remember stopping mid-roll to look
>around the room to see if anyone noticed, but I was the only
>one.

Man we got some interesting playlists at MGA, so this doesn't even sound weird to me. We got Marcelo playing "if you gonna be dumb" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3Mn6V1IzHw. Paul playing Kodak Black and French. Satava playing The Misfits, Matheus playing Kevin Gates, and Philzhino playing 90s dancehall. I'm sure Quinn will get control of the playlist soon enough.

>I mentioned it to him in good fun a couple times, but I think
>he may have thought I was picking on him. Either way, he might
>remember that, too.
>
>Of course, if you bring me up you get to have the awkward
>conversation of how we know each other from OKP and ... well,
>I'll let you decide that one.

I'll wait til you drop in to relive this one with yall lol


>Yep, same. He introduced me to the N/S choke and the
>monoplata, and I still use his tips. I imagine he fit right in
>at MGA with his game. N/S is huge part of my game today.

One of the hardest to master but most devastating subs

>
>Yeah, I'm applying to like 15 schools or so, but really hoping
>to get accepted by NYU, John Jay, UCLA, or Howard. I would
>love to live in NYC.

My man was a assistant professor UCLA a lot of my people were living in Delta Terrace freshman year and I grew up a Bruins fan. Another good choice man.

>Even if I don't get accepted, I'll stop in MGA my next trip to
>NYC.

You definitely should. Especially cause Quinn is at the front desk.

  

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126. "WHO THE FUCK IS READY FOR KASAI PRO 4 + Return of Marcelo?"
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You going Shawn?

https://youtu.be/Xwmd5Epeh68

  

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