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"WOJ BOMB: Bucks fired Jason Kidd"


          

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RE: WOJ BOMB: Bucks fired Jason Kidd
Jan 22nd 2018
1
that's what he gets for doing the Nets dirty
Jan 22nd 2018
2
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DULHm_TV4AA9eoX.jpg
Jan 22nd 2018
3
Knicks on line 1
Jan 22nd 2018
4
HAHAHAHAHA!!!! Right.
Jan 22nd 2018
44
"We're a young team" excuse couldn't last forever.
Jan 22nd 2018
5
Right
Jan 22nd 2018
11
Never having a post player might be a reason.
Jan 22nd 2018
16
o so Monroe was completely useless?
Jan 22nd 2018
17
      Lmao..... YES.
Jan 22nd 2018
25
           9th highest scoring C in the NBA in 29 mpg was USELESS in 15-16
Jan 22nd 2018
33
Funny how that worked for Thibs LAST YEAR. His team was 31-51.
Jan 22nd 2018
24
*spills drink*
Jan 22nd 2018
6
nice.
Jan 22nd 2018
7
I see what you did there...
Jan 22nd 2018
8
Man, Kidd just can't get ahead huh?
Jan 22nd 2018
9
Joe Torry rosting Kidd's son
Jan 22nd 2018
13
It does lol one of the first google replies was "TJ Kidd head STILL big"
Jan 22nd 2018
39
Top Okayplayer moment from like 15 years ago
Jan 22nd 2018
43
bwahahahhaaa
Jan 22nd 2018
10
classic
Jan 22nd 2018
19
ROCK N ROLL FIRING!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jan 22nd 2018
12
no reason on earth that team should be 25th in defense
Jan 22nd 2018
14
ROCK N ROLL STATISTICS!!!!!!
Jan 22nd 2018
15
Thibs had Minnesota 27th last year. Explanation?
Jan 23rd 2018
72
      yeah that sucks. they prolly should've fired him.
Jan 23rd 2018
74
Fizdale incoming??
Jan 22nd 2018
18
Luke hopes lol
Jan 22nd 2018
21
Rough series of developments for the Orbster.
Jan 22nd 2018
20
Trump is in office, bro. O_E won.
Jan 22nd 2018
23
      You sound just like him
Jan 22nd 2018
47
           You sound like his friends.
Jan 23rd 2018
51
Lulz. Minnesota was 31-51 last year. Bucks are .500 this year.
Jan 22nd 2018
22
Any Woj bombs on Luke Walton?
Jan 22nd 2018
26
^My. Nigga. It's like the world just trolling blk people at this point.
Jan 22nd 2018
28
It's like they're trolling all of us.
Jan 22nd 2018
40
right lol...
Jan 22nd 2018
29
damn
Jan 22nd 2018
30
Sickening
Jan 22nd 2018
34
gawd damn.. dylan dylan dylan... lol
Jan 22nd 2018
45
I mean Walton is trash but the Lakers arent as far along
Jan 22nd 2018
48
Nailed it
Jan 22nd 2018
50
wooooooo!
Jan 23rd 2018
56
that team has always seemed like the island of misfit toys, outside of.....
Jan 22nd 2018
27
And they don't have Jabari. Thibs was 31-51 last year. Bucsk .500 now.
Jan 22nd 2018
31
They couldn't even wait for jabari
Jan 22nd 2018
32
The timing seems odd.
Jan 22nd 2018
35
never getting past the 1st round in the weak-ass East aint winning
Jan 22nd 2018
36
      How about Thibs being 31-51 last year? With awful defense?
Jan 22nd 2018
37
      Idgaf about no Tibadoo
Jan 23rd 2018
55
           "Your team" has the face of the NBA for the next decade.
Jan 23rd 2018
64
                cool...only problem is coaching is about more than that
Jan 23rd 2018
66
                     Coaching isn't maximizing talent, getting the most out of players?
Jan 23rd 2018
68
                          is he doing that this year? no.
Jan 23rd 2018
75
                               Bucks don't have their second player player. Minny ADDED Jimmy Butler.
Jan 23rd 2018
85
      True
Jan 22nd 2018
38
We'll take him in LA
Jan 22nd 2018
41
Fiz sitting at home like:
Jan 22nd 2018
42
o so Giannis disapproves?!?!
Jan 22nd 2018
46
This gonna solve everything, right?
Jan 22nd 2018
49
BWHAHAHA!!! GIANNIS ACTIVELY TRIED TO KEEP KIDD!!
Jan 23rd 2018
52
It's the only coach he's known. Is this surprising?
Jan 23rd 2018
54
      No, Einstein. It's the coach who taught him how to be 29 and 10.
Jan 23rd 2018
62
LMAO. Note how all the shit talk stopped when the Giannis shit broke.
Jan 23rd 2018
53
Thibs was 31-51 last year? I didn't know this
Jan 23rd 2018
57
White people get to fail, and it's NEVER their fault. EVER.
Jan 23rd 2018
65
      brian schoettenheimer almost broke me this week
Jan 23rd 2018
78
I don't think anybody expected Kidd to get fired
Jan 23rd 2018
58
What if Kidd's sleepy style isn't actually the best thing for Giannis?
Jan 23rd 2018
59
Right, OBVIOUSLY Kidd doesn't develop talent, right? (LMAO)
Jan 23rd 2018
63
Could someone tell me what Thibs's record was last year?
Jan 23rd 2018
60
      31-51, 27th in the league in DEFENSIVE rating.
Jan 23rd 2018
61
      Thanks!
Jan 23rd 2018
67
      espn has them at 31-51
Jan 23rd 2018
69
           It's just a hard stat to find, wasn't sure if it was noted anywhere.
Jan 23rd 2018
71
RE: WOJ BOMB: Bucks fired Jason Kidd
Jan 23rd 2018
70
This had to be something behind the scenes, right?
Jan 23rd 2018
73
meh they are pretty trashy. so is the organization though
Jan 23rd 2018
76
He black. So insert "attitude problem," "wasn't get along with managemen...
Jan 23rd 2018
77
white people who don't play basketball are mad at his defensive scheme
Jan 23rd 2018
79
The behind the scenes info...
Jan 23rd 2018
80
smh..."alpha male"
Jan 23rd 2018
81
Just from reading the comments, not sure if that's typical Reddit...
Jan 23rd 2018
82
damn.
Jan 23rd 2018
83
White folks love to hate the Black folks on their team
Jan 23rd 2018
84
::waves at OKS dickfaces::
Jan 23rd 2018
86
any of you idiots decide to read the bottom?
Jan 23rd 2018
87
      I read it
Jan 23rd 2018
88
      the whole thing is hearsay
Jan 24th 2018
91
           The future of the league being with Kidd isn't "heresay."
Jan 24th 2018
93
      What Giannis say? His word mean anything?
Jan 23rd 2018
89
      Jabari says he talked to Kidd all the time.
Jan 24th 2018
90
      "Kilpatrick > Giannis" (c) White people, when the coach is black.
Jan 24th 2018
94
      kipatrick just got on and made the team .. I think that’s fake news
Jan 24th 2018
96
           NOPE! Kilpatrick opinion > Giannis opinion.
Jan 24th 2018
99
                Unfortunately...agreed.
Jan 28th 2018
124
      shaq/kobe, blatt/bron, iverson/brown...
Jan 24th 2018
92
           LMAO one of those 3 things is not like the other 2
Jan 24th 2018
102
                in soooo many ways lmao
Jan 24th 2018
110
why exactly should we be surprised by a premature Kidd firing?
Jan 24th 2018
95
RE: why exactly should we be surprised by a premature Kidd firing?
Jan 24th 2018
97
You mean "one of the best basketball minds to ever live?"
Jan 24th 2018
98
      smart people can also be assholes and wrong
Jan 24th 2018
100
           Right. I'm saying the defining comments on Kidd for 20 years...
Jan 24th 2018
101
                well then why are they losing?
Jan 24th 2018
103
                I didn't even like Kidd, but they were losing cause they have no bigs
Jan 24th 2018
104
                     lots of better teams don't have legit centers though
Jan 24th 2018
105
                          Thon is possibly the most useless player in the League
Jan 24th 2018
106
                          That is another lie. Why people gotta Liiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeee?
Jan 24th 2018
107
                               you basically proved my point. Handful of guys on your list aren't C's
Jan 24th 2018
109
                He also tried staging a coup on Billy King in Brooklyn
Jan 24th 2018
108
                RE: He also tried staging a coup on Billy King in Brooklyn
Jan 24th 2018
112
                Hard to summon tears for dude
Jan 24th 2018
113
                     EXACTLY. A black man must be PERFECT to be a victim of racism.
Jan 25th 2018
121
                          It's not that he's an imperfect victim... he's a reasonable victim
Jan 30th 2018
150
                               Good grief. You're a stinking liar, and I hope you're not a negro.
Jan 30th 2018
152
                                    There's a reason you focus on his playing career
Jan 31st 2018
153
                                         My honest take is that you're an embarassment.
Jan 31st 2018
154
                                              bro...you CAN'T be this damn naive
Jan 31st 2018
155
                                                   He's not but he wouldn't have much to post if he were reasonable
Jan 31st 2018
156
                                                   Ahh so your alternative is to call Jabari a liar? Bwhaahahah
Feb 02nd 2018
157
                lol we know your schtick. keep glancing over what i wrote
Jan 24th 2018
111
                     RE: lol we know your schtick. keep glancing over what i wrote
Jan 24th 2018
116
                          RE: lol we know your schtick. keep glancing over what i wrote
Jan 25th 2018
117
Giannis speaks, defends Kidd, OKS silent and sad.
Jan 24th 2018
114
139-152? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Jan 24th 2018
115
he's a genius, don't forget
Jan 25th 2018
118
      i had no idea he had coached there that long
Jan 25th 2018
119
           Lol. He inherited a 15-67 team, been .500 or above 3/4 seasons.
Jan 25th 2018
120
Dunc'd on Pod pointed out, easiest stretch of schedule coming
Jan 25th 2018
122
interesting read...
Jan 27th 2018
123
Bucks been ballin since the genius left Wisconsin
Jan 29th 2018
125
Kidd was fired after the toughest part of the schedule, the easiest...
Jan 29th 2018
126
Genius was 0-2 against the Bulls before getting shitcanned
Jan 29th 2018
128
      LOL. No backtracking. You're late and getting fucked up.
Jan 29th 2018
130
post #122. n/m
Jan 29th 2018
127
facts don't matter (c) desus
Jan 30th 2018
139
      the only fact is the Bucks are 4-0 since the fire
Jan 30th 2018
140
           The fact is that this is the easiest stretch of the season.
Jan 30th 2018
145
                Genius lost all kinds of "easy" games on the schedule
Jan 30th 2018
147
                     Thibs lost 51 last year, with two #1 overalls, and was given a chance.
Jan 30th 2018
149
LMAO!! Well, looks like everyone else shitting on you. Embarassing.
Jan 29th 2018
129
      Giannis playing like ass since Genius left
Jan 29th 2018
131
           Lolz. Giannis an all-time great, and attached to Kidd forever.
Jan 30th 2018
132
                Let's give Genius 100% of the credit for Giannis
Jan 30th 2018
135
                     LMAO "entitled." He was coaching at .500. Thibs coached a 31-5...
Jan 30th 2018
136
                          can you just admit thibs is in year 2 and kidd was in year 4
Jan 30th 2018
137
                               not to mention he's been past the first round multiple times
Jan 30th 2018
138
                               With a league MVP #1 overall pick and multiple all-stars, you imbecile.
Jan 30th 2018
143
                               Admit Thibs had 2 #1 overall picks, one already a surefire superstar.
Jan 30th 2018
142
Jabari denies beef with Kidd...PR move or no?
Jan 30th 2018
133
Yeah, obvious at this point that they lied, and tarnished Kidd's name
Jan 30th 2018
134
Lol...if he did, why the hell would he admit it?
Jan 30th 2018
141
      Are you on drugs? Do you need help?
Jan 30th 2018
144
           I'm 30 now bro...everything's going downhill fast
Jan 30th 2018
146
                Just admit the The front office lied, and is getting embarrassed.
Jan 30th 2018
148
Probably a little unfair. But fuck Kidd.
Jan 30th 2018
151
Bucks are 9-2 since the firing, now the 4 seed
Feb 14th 2018
158
post #122
Feb 14th 2018
159
because if there's one thing Genius was good at, it was
Feb 15th 2018
160
FOH no stretch guarantees a .900 winning percentage lmao
Feb 15th 2018
161
7th seed now could be 8th by the weekend
Feb 28th 2018
165
DEVELOPPING SITUATION: 6-4 in the last 10
Feb 26th 2018
162
I've had enough: I'm paypalling you beer money.
Feb 26th 2018
163
1-6 vs teams with winning records in February, lost 5 of their last 8...
Feb 28th 2018
164
RE: 1-6 vs teams with winning records in February, lost 5 of their last ...
Mar 01st 2018
166
While you bullshitting, that actually happens to black people.
Mar 01st 2018
167
Shoulda grabbed Fizdale now
Mar 01st 2018
168
      How about this option: Neither Kidd NOR Fitzdale should have been fired....
Apr 11th 2018
172
8th place fortunately for them the rest of the east is so bad there's...
Mar 06th 2018
169
Somebody oughta rank the most screwed over black coaches
Mar 06th 2018
170
So: this was a better basketball team before they fired Jason Kidd.
Apr 11th 2018
171
Shelly v. Andrew Sharp.
Apr 11th 2018
173
Hi.
Apr 18th 2018
174

murph71
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1. "RE: WOJ BOMB: Bucks fired Jason Kidd"
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Shit....WTF.....

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2. "that's what he gets for doing the Nets dirty"
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j/k i don't blame him for leaving Brooklyn

  

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3. "https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DULHm_TV4AA9eoX.jpg"
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4. "Knicks on line 1"
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we need a pg

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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44. "HAHAHAHAHA!!!! Right."
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5. ""We're a young team" excuse couldn't last forever."
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my patience ran thin. No reason this team should be .500 this year, even with Jabari out.

  

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11. "Right"
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16. "Never having a post player might be a reason."
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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17. "o so Monroe was completely useless?"
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25. "Lmao..... YES."
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33. "9th highest scoring C in the NBA in 29 mpg was USELESS in 15-16"
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52+ FG % is a USELESS post player. What kind of C do you think they needed? Cuz?

  

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24. "Funny how that worked for Thibs LAST YEAR. His team was 31-51. "
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Wolves were 31-51 with MULTIPLE studs and were allowed to
ADD A PERENNIAL ALL-STAR.

I wonder how good the Bucks would be if they added...say..
...Paul George (Butler is actually better than George, tho).




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6. "*spills drink*"
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7. "nice."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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8. "I see what you did there..."
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LOL!

  

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9. "Man, Kidd just can't get ahead huh?"
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MAN, dude dwarfs the whole family...STILL. He didn't grow into it...it grew into HIM.

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13. "Joe Torry rosting Kidd's son"
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at that old Shaq comedy special still holds up.

I have to wonder if Kidd ever spoke to Shaq face to face over that.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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39. "It does lol one of the first google replies was "TJ Kidd head STILL big""
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smh

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43. "Top Okayplayer moment from like 15 years ago"
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10. "bwahahahhaaa"
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19. "classic"
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12. "ROCK N ROLL FIRING!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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14. "no reason on earth that team should be 25th in defense "
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and barely hanging onto a playoff spot.

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15. "ROCK N ROLL STATISTICS!!!!!!"
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72. "Thibs had Minnesota 27th last year. Explanation? "
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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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74. "yeah that sucks. they prolly should've fired him."
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18. "Fizdale incoming??"
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21. "Luke hopes lol"
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20. "Rough series of developments for the Orbster."
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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23. "Trump is in office, bro. O_E won. "
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Y'all can't do the 'racially paranoid' thing anymore.

White people aren't fond of black people.

I won that longstanding debate around here, when y'all
used to say I make shit up.

The TWolves were 31-51 last year.

The Bucks are .500 this year. Without Jabari. Having
added Bledsoe, who was a mess, during the season.

There is no reason Kidd deserved to be fired.

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47. "You sound just like him"
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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51. "You sound like his friends. "
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Cry, wimp


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22. "Lulz. Minnesota was 31-51 last year. Bucks are .500 this year. "
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With 2 #1 overall picks. Thibs was allowed to ADD
another All-Star, and is now applauded as a genius.

Bucks are .500 this year, without their
highest draft pick. (Jabari), having added
a dude (Bledsoe) who nobody wanted, who has
actually transitioned in nicely (unquestionably
because he's coached by one of the best guards
ever)

Giannis developed entirely under Jason Kidd, but
apparently he gets no credit for that. (including
as a playmaker, which I guess Kidd had nothing to
do with)

Lulz.


The world is the gift that keeps on giving the Orbster.

  

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26. "Any Woj bombs on Luke Walton? "
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Just wondering.

So the big story was Ty Lue's job is in jeopardy. Now it's Jason Kidd gets fired. But Luke Walton is just figuring it out.

Gotcha.

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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28. "^My. Nigga. It's like the world just trolling blk people at this point. "
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>Just wondering.
>
>So the big story was Ty Lue's job is in jeopardy. Now it's
>Jason Kidd gets fired. But Luke Walton is just figuring it
>out.
>
>Gotcha.

It's ALMOST funny.


In fact....nah, it IS funny.


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40. "It's like they're trolling all of us. "
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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29. "right lol..."
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>Just wondering.
>
>So the big story was Ty Lue's job is in jeopardy. Now it's
>Jason Kidd gets fired. But Luke Walton is just figuring it
>out.
>
>Gotcha.

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30. "damn"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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34. "Sickening"
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>Just wondering.
>
>So the big story was Ty Lue's job is in jeopardy. Now it's
>Jason Kidd gets fired. But Luke Walton is just figuring it
>out.
>
>Gotcha.


  

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45. "gawd damn.. dylan dylan dylan... lol"
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>Just wondering.
>
>So the big story was Ty Lue's job is in jeopardy. Now it's
>Jason Kidd gets fired. But Luke Walton is just figuring it
>out.
>
>Gotcha.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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48. "I mean Walton is trash but the Lakers arent as far along"
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The Cavs are thinking title. The Bucks are thinking second-round or further. The Lakers are still thinking ping-pong balls. Do they have a good replacement lined up? Also an issue. But yeah, Walton is doing a garbage job.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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50. "Nailed it"
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56. "wooooooo!"
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27. "that team has always seemed like the island of misfit toys, outside of....."
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Giannis who do they have? Bledsoe ain't never won shit.

The Bucks got some young hot shot white boy as GM and I'm sure he's trying to make his mark.

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31. "And they don't have Jabari. Thibs was 31-51 last year. Bucsk .500 now. "
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>Giannis who do they have? Bledsoe ain't never won shit.
>
>The Bucks got some young hot shot white boy as GM and I'm sure
>he's trying to make his mark.

This is unreal racism.

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32. "They couldn't even wait for jabari"
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the worse part about the superteams era is that it makes everyone in win now or nothing mode. If you have an ounce of talent, there's no window for it to be develop cohesively. They just added bledsoe this season.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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35. "The timing seems odd."
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Unless they have a line on Fizdale and think they can bring him in and have him work some magic during the season, I can't think why he would be fired mid-season.

Kidd was alright to me. He at least had the team winning and brought Giannis along so he should get credit for that.

That being said, maybe the GM thinks MIL is like GS before Kerr was hired - a young team with good to great parts which could be improved if they played under the right coach / system.

I don't know if that is the right line of reasoning. Kerr figured it out better than anyone expected. It isn't likely that a scenario like that works itself out again. Thinking that hiring a coach with a great sense of tactics is going to magically make MIL a top 3 team might be wishful thinking.

<--- Me when my head hits the pillow

  

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36. "never getting past the 1st round in the weak-ass East aint winning"
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it's treading water.

  

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37. "How about Thibs being 31-51 last year? With awful defense? "
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He was able to "tread water" and ADD AN ELITE NBA
player to his team.

Why didn't Kidd at least get to wait for Jabari, if not
be able to add an ELITE All-star level player?

The answer is racism.
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55. "Idgaf about no Tibadoo"
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just my team

  

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64. ""Your team" has the face of the NBA for the next decade. "
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Who entered the league as raw as any first round prospect
ever.

Who developed him?

Who nurtured his all around game, sat him down when he
didn't play a full floor game? He emphasized his ball
handling and passing?



































Oh.


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66. "cool...only problem is coaching is about more than that"
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68. "Coaching isn't maximizing talent, getting the most out of players? "
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Oh, okay

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75. "is he doing that this year? no."
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even your ridiculous thibs comparison doesn't hold water. the team improved slightly in his first year and has improved greatly this year. kidd had the team improving, now they have taken a significant step back. i am surprised he got canned and they didn't handle it well BUT it's not an apple/apple comparison by any stretch and no one can defend kidd by saying he was getting great or even adequate results this year.

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85. "Bucks don't have their second player player. Minny ADDED Jimmy Butler. "
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>even your ridiculous thibs comparison doesn't hold water. the
>team improved slightly in his first year and has improved
>greatly this year. kidd had the team improving, now they have
>taken a significant step back. i am surprised he got canned
>and they didn't handle it well BUT it's not an apple/apple
>comparison by any stretch and no one can defend kidd by saying
>he was getting great or even adequate results this year.

Wolves were 31-51 and 27th in the league defensively last year
with two number 1 overall picks one of them a pure ultra stud.

NOBODY was calling for Thibs' head.

The Bucks are a .500 team WITHOUT THEIR SECOND BEST PLAYER.



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38. "True"
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He was an average head coach which doesn't usually get you fired in the middle of the year.

I know some media members, as I guess their fans as well, didn't think highly of him. But to be fired mid-year with the team currently in the playoffs seems out of the ordinary.

<--- Me when my head hits the pillow

  

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41. "We'll take him in LA"
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42. "Fiz sitting at home like:"
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https://images.dailykos.com/images/209142/large/DocHolliday.jpg?1455400479

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One Hundred.

  

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46. "o so Giannis disapproves?!?!"
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Ummmhmmmmmm


Fuck y’all

  

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49. "This gonna solve everything, right?"
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55 wins and sunshine from here on out right?

Accountability is coming.

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52. "BWHAHAHA!!! GIANNIS ACTIVELY TRIED TO KEEP KIDD!! "
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https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne/status/955598302266798080

BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH


EAT ASSSSS

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


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54. "It's the only coach he's known. Is this surprising?"
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Why you partying so hard? What if they get a better coach next year?

  

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62. "No, Einstein. It's the coach who taught him how to be 29 and 10. "
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>Why you partying so hard? What if they get a better coach
>next year?

And the future of the league.


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53. "LMAO. Note how all the shit talk stopped when the Giannis shit broke. "
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So Bucks OPENLY DEFYING their best player since Kareem,
one of the 5 best players in basketball, and the arguably
the future of the LEAGUE

Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahhahahahahahahahahah

And LMAO @ the management not even having the decency to
TELL Kidd like adults.

But Bucks supposed to be a 60-win team, right? WITHOUT
Jabari, having brought in Bledsoe (who wasn't even PLAYING
ball before the trade)

It's essentially Giannis and a bunch of misfits
(an overachieving Brogdon, etc). Not to mention the fact
that Giannis is one of the great projects in league HISTORY
who has panned out ENTIRELY under Jason Kidd's tutelage

Kidd gets no credit, right?

Meanwhile, Thibs was 31-51 last year with MORE talent. Was
ALLOWED to ADD a PERENNIAL All-Star, and niggas in here
partying

You guys are such pathetic sacks of shit

Almost all of y'all


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57. "Thibs was 31-51 last year? I didn't know this"
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someone posted that 3 NBA coaches have been fired this year. All Black.

****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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65. "White people get to fail, and it's NEVER their fault. EVER. "
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>someone posted that 3 NBA coaches have been fired this year.
>All Black.

But somehow Jason Kidd is supposed to have the Bucks
as a 60-win team.

LOL


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78. "brian schoettenheimer almost broke me this week"
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58. "I don't think anybody expected Kidd to get fired"
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I think it's mostly jokes and real bucks fans being surprised.

But to your point, I was watching the bucks game last night and they interviewed the GM and dude has to be like 28 and has that smug "I know what I'm doing but I really don't know what I'm doing" resting face.

https://tinyurl.com/y9ce58da

He'll be fired within 2 yrs and I wouldn't be surprised if he's the entire reason Giannis wants out in a few seasons.

That said, if they trade for Jordan and hire Fitz and go on a 15 game win streak...I take it all back. lol

Kidd did a decent job from my perspective. Developed Jarbari, Giannis and Middleton. Working on Thon (who's potential had me nervous about this team but now I'm not sure about). Coach Brogdon to ROY.

The Bucks to me are like 1 allstar and an injury free Jabari away from being REALLY scary. Feels like that's on the horizon too and I think Kidd would have done well with it.

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59. "What if Kidd's sleepy style isn't actually the best thing for Giannis?"
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It's an NBA coaching change, lmao...you acting like Kidd was untouchable because Giannis liked him...because he has no experience with other NBA coaches to compare. Maybe he'll just learn to adapt, and the next coach will end up being better.

  

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63. "Right, OBVIOUSLY Kidd doesn't develop talent, right? (LMAO)"
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Because Brogdon is a total bust, and Giannis
isn't one of the great project success stories
in league history, right?

Oh Giannis would have been 29 and 10 with anyone?

He didn't OPENLY SAY that Kidd has developed him?





























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60. "Could someone tell me what Thibs's record was last year? "
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Having trouble finding this information.

My movies: http://russellhainline.com
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61. "31-51, 27th in the league in DEFENSIVE rating. "
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https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/MIN/2017.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016%E2%80%9317_Minnesota_Timberwolves_season



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67. "Thanks!"
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69. "espn has them at 31-51"
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this seems to corroborate with the written ledger I kept last year of Wolves games.

  

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71. "It's just a hard stat to find, wasn't sure if it was noted anywhere. "
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70. "RE: WOJ BOMB: Bucks fired Jason Kidd"
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i think we should wait for a 4th black coach to get fired before a white coach before assuming anything, 4 seems more compelling than 3

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73. "This had to be something behind the scenes, right?"
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If I'm not mistaken, Giannis has been out the most recent couple of games due to knee soreness, so Kidd wasn't even fired when Giannis was on the court to assess if the Bucks were truly trash or not.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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76. "meh they are pretty trashy. so is the organization though"
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just because they ZOMG LOOK HOW LONG HE IS!!!! scouting strategy paid off once or twice doesn't mean they are all that smart.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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77. "He black. So insert "attitude problem," "wasn't get along with managemen..."
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>just because they ZOMG LOOK HOW LONG HE IS!!!! scouting
>strategy paid off once or twice doesn't mean they are all that
>smart.


But he black, so let's go ahead and give credit to
someone else.

Or say "Giannis would have done that reegardless.



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79. "white people who don't play basketball are mad at his defensive scheme"
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something something over agressive.

you also hear some of the WPWDPB standard complaint of bad offensive system (because only one black coach has ever been allowed to have a mind for offense, hallowed be Alvin Gentry's name) and, of course, bad out of bounds plays. can't be a good coach unless you run five picks coming out of every time out.

the defensive charges have some merit (EDIT: then again, I too am a WPWDPB), but mostly he's being blamed for a mismatched, offensively challenged roster and for being black.

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80. "The behind the scenes info..."
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MkeBucks/comments/7sgtd9/bill_michaels_inside_info_on_how_everything_went/

Look I’m not Kidd’s biggest fan as a coach but any non-white person can look through this situation and see racism and white privilege 101

So kidd curses out Horst who is technically his boss, sure but this motherfucker has been director of basketball operation ( a pretty high up) job since he was 25. Any non-white people get those jobs or can even imagine them for a dleague level team?

Anywhoo this dude gets cursed out by a coach and throws a tantrum and decides to turn over the whole table — not even considering his franchise player in all this. Smart movevthere small market never win anything franchise— you just put blood in the water for some sharks.

Anyhoo part 2 read the Reddit comments from racist American white people applauding this with no eye or considerations for implications of any racism in the situation and actually call what Horst did an “alpha” move as opposed to a 3 yr old tantrum move that my daughter has every day....


Oh America

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81. "smh..."alpha male""
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.

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82. "Just from reading the comments, not sure if that's typical Reddit..."
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comments cuz I don't fuck with Reddit like that. But Fuck That Fanbase too.

Giannis gonna leave them motherfuckers sooner or later.

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83. "damn. "
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84. "White folks love to hate the Black folks on their team"
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As a Steeler fan I witness this shit after every game.

They can’t wait for Tomlin to get fired even tho history shows the FO never fires their coaches.

****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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86. "::waves at OKS dickfaces:: "
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Hiiiiiii

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87. "any of you idiots decide to read the bottom?"
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-Confirms reports that Jabari and Kidd weren't speaking. Had a non-existent relationship.

-The blowup at shootaround was between numerous people. "Kidd was involved, players were involved, other people were involved." It was all over and done with in about 20 minutes.

-There was a sizable group of players in the locker room that no longer respected Kidd and didn't think he had their back. There was a smaller group of 3-4 guys that were still loyal Kidd fans.

Tell me...how's a team supposed to win in a toxic climate like that?

  

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88. "I read it "
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wasnt even worth citing because the bottom line is racism. This part is all hearsay and could be a part of teh Bucks Pr engine.

Who were the ones who didnt like him? Let me guess Delly?

and at the end of the day if only Brogdon, Middleton, and GIANNIS had his back...who cares...thats the core.

>-Confirms reports that Jabari and Kidd weren't speaking. Had
>a non-existent relationship.
>
>-The blowup at shootaround was between numerous people. "Kidd
>was involved, players were involved, other people were
>involved." It was all over and done with in about 20 minutes.
>
>-There was a sizable group of players in the locker room that
>no longer respected Kidd and didn't think he had their back.
>There was a smaller group of 3-4 guys that were still loyal
>Kidd fans.
>
>Tell me...how's a team supposed to win in a toxic climate like
>that?

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91. "the whole thing is hearsay"
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>wasnt even worth citing because the bottom line is racism.
>This part is all hearsay and could be a part of teh Bucks Pr
>engine.
>
>Who were the ones who didnt like him? Let me guess Delly?

lolz. even if it was that would still makes it Delly + more black players against Kidd than for him.


>and at the end of the day if only Brogdon, Middleton, and
>GIANNIS had his back...who cares...thats the core.

that's *if* Brogdon and Middleton are 2 of the 3-4 with Kidd. and it's an untenable team dynamic regardless.

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93. "The future of the league being with Kidd isn't "heresay." "
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Giannis openly and aggressively defended Kidd.

If Kidd is white, the narrative is that model immigrant
Giannis is the only one who is tough and can handle criticism,
while these lazy sensitive millennial American negroes don't
take well to coaching, especially from one of the smartest
players to ever pick up a basketball. (note how Kidd's
intelligence never comes up...ever...it's offensive)

Either way,

Lebron was the only Cav who had a problem with Blatt.

Blatt got fired, Cavs won a chip.

That's basketball.


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89. "What Giannis say? His word mean anything? "
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I'm noting how you are taking the word of random
white dudes on reddit and NOT one of the hardest,
most hard working, nice dudes in the league who also
happens to be a super duper star.

So apparently his opinion on the matter doesn't matter.

This is what I mean: instead of just admitting you're
wrong, openly shit on your best player who is by all
accounts a great guy.

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90. "Jabari says he talked to Kidd all the time. "
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Bout one of the few that didn't like him was Kilpatrick so......

  

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94. ""Kilpatrick > Giannis" (c) White people, when the coach is black. "
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96. "kipatrick just got on and made the team .. I think that’s fake news"
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I imagine Kidd had some sayvthere in him making the squad. Unless that was a Horst power “alpha” move lol

There was a tweet kilpatrick made hours before the firing that somehow got people thinking it was about the firing.

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99. "NOPE! Kilpatrick opinion > Giannis opinion. "
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>I imagine Kidd had some sayvthere in him making the squad.
>Unless that was a Horst power “alpha” move lol
>
>There was a tweet kilpatrick made hours before the firing that
>somehow got people thinking it was about the firing.


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124. "Unfortunately...agreed. "
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92. "shaq/kobe, blatt/bron, iverson/brown..."
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>Tell me...how's a team supposed to win in a toxic climate like
>that?

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102. "LMAO one of those 3 things is not like the other 2"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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110. "in soooo many ways lmao"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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95. "why exactly should we be surprised by a premature Kidd firing?"
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or a rather abrupt NBA coaching change?

not that i'm cool with it in general and not saying that racism in the L doesn't exist.
i wouldn't be surprised at all if it plays a role here.

but if we go by the things that have been reported in the past 20 years abut Kidd (which may all be fake news) then i would be hesitant to prematurely cry victim.

i can see the white privilege in the young buck calling the shots.

the one-dimensional selective reading of the sources here is just smh worthy.

''i went from bashful to asshole to international''- CdoubleO

  

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97. "RE: why exactly should we be surprised by a premature Kidd firing?"
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No because whatever source or story you have... which most of us have read... underlying issue is still very much racism. Period.

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98. "You mean "one of the best basketball minds to ever live?""
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>but if we go by the things that have been reported in the past
>20 years abut Kidd (which may all be fake news) then i would
>be hesitant to prematurely cry victim.

That what you mean?

You mean the things coaches say about his prodigious ball
IQ and unselfishness?

  

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100. "smart people can also be assholes and wrong"
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and there are a lot of dumb MFers with jobs because they are white or rich or male or just know the right people…

but yeah, have fun overlooking that possibility.


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101. "Right. I'm saying the defining comments on Kidd for 20 years..."
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...have been out:

(i) his extremely high intelligence
(ii)his extreme unselfishness

Coaches have said it. Over and over and over.
He had been an actual coach on the floor for years.
This is not a debate.

And he works like a maniac: few have ever improved their
shooting more...ever. He's top 10 all time in 3s, for
crying out loud, and was horrid coming into the league

He's one of the most impressive and unique players in
league history.

Everything else is silly. And so all this shit you're
talking about that should make us believe what bums
on the team are saying (AND NOT WHAT THE STAR OF THE
FUCKING TEAM IS SAYING)?

LOL.


What, you think Kidd wrong because of the Jimmy
Jackson feud over Toni Braxton back in 94-95?

LMAO.

You referring to dude's marital problems?

LOL.


This is my point:

When you're black, you can be a savant and people still
define you by random, nutjub rumors and shit from 20
years ago.

It's so offensive.

>and there are a lot of dumb MFers with jobs because they are
>white or rich or male or just know the right people…
>
>but yeah, have fun overlooking that possibility.
>
>
>


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103. "well then why are they losing?"
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the bucks have THE unicorn to end all unicorns, and are completely healthy, and they are mediocre

so who's not as advertised, Giannis or Kidd?

because SOMEONE is most certainly underperforming

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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104. "I didn't even like Kidd, but they were losing cause they have no bigs"
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Thon Maker isn't even a G League guy, John Henson weighs 35 pounds
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105. "lots of better teams don't have legit centers though"
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106. "Thon is possibly the most useless player in the League"
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And Henson can't to anything with anyone who has any strength. Those losers gave up 27 to fucking Whiteside
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107. "That is another lie. Why people gotta Liiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeee?"
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> Guys its ok to argue your side of a debate without just outright lying



Pacers - Myles Turner Better C + sabonis
Wizards - Gortat Better C
Heat - Whiteside Better C
Cavs - Love Better C
Raptors - Jonas Better C
Celtics - Horford Better C

thats just the east

Lets do worse teams with better Cs

76ers - Embiid Better C
Pistons - Drummond Better C
Knicks - Enes Better C
Hornets - Dwight Better C
Bulls - Robin Lopez Better C
Nets - Zeller (ok you win one)
Hawks - Ilyasova et al. ( ok ill give you another)
Orlando - Vuc Better C


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109. "you basically proved my point. Handful of guys on your list aren't C's"
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just tall guys.

I'm not trying to defend Thon or Henson at all, btw. I know they trash.

  

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108. "He also tried staging a coup on Billy King in Brooklyn"
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And has been mostly remarkable in his coaching career for his strange, if innovative and hilarious, late game tactics. So he's famous for things besides his unselfishness and brilliance.

And lots of great, brilliant players made for shit coaches. Magic and Larry seem like the obvious ones here, but all great passers always worry me as far as coaching goes because they just see shit that can't always be taught.

Full disclosure: I haven't watched enough Bucks basketball over the last two years to really judge Kidd as a coach. I just also know a lot of other people in here haven't either.

  

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112. "RE: He also tried staging a coup on Billy King in Brooklyn"
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>Full disclosure: I haven't watched enough Bucks basketball
>over the last two years to really judge Kidd as a coach. I
>just also know a lot of other people in here haven't either.

shit, ask okps if they can list you 5 actual bball decisions that ANY coach did that speak for their good rep...

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113. "Hard to summon tears for dude"
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>And has been mostly remarkable in his coaching career for his
>strange, if innovative and hilarious, late game tactics. So
>he's famous for things besides his unselfishness and
>brilliance.

My lingering impression of him over the years is of him being a bit of an asshole but I had to refresh myself on his track record.

http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york/brooklyn-nets/post/_/id/19596/history-of-jason-kidds-past-incidents

not saying he's singularly the worst person in the NBA or even, objectively, THAT bad (other than the alleged wife beating). But with all the little power plays he's participated in over his career, this whole situation reads more like karma than racism.


>And lots of great, brilliant players made for shit coaches.
>Magic and Larry seem like the obvious ones here, but all great
>passers always worry me as far as coaching goes because they
>just see shit that can't always be taught.
>
>Full disclosure: I haven't watched enough Bucks basketball
>over the last two years to really judge Kidd as a coach. I
>just also know a lot of other people in here haven't either.

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121. "EXACTLY. A black man must be PERFECT to be a victim of racism. "
In response to Reply # 113
Thu Jan-25-18 02:17 PM by Orbit_Established

  

          


That might be the single most absurd and unfortunate,
yet wildly pervasive, idea in America. And it has really
sad and unfortunate consequences.

In fact, the worst racism happens precisely TO imperfect
black men (the criminal justice system). Check the death
penalty data. Check the war on drugs data. In fact, we
make YOUR EXACT EXCUSE whenever this issue comes up:

"I"m not drumming up sympathy for a guy who did X."

What does him having done X have anything to do with him
deserving unfair treatment? Racism and racism.

An analogous issue has come up in the #MeToo movement:

A sex worker doesn't deserve to be raped or beaten any
more than any other woman. Rape is rape.

I recognize that you're probably not intelligent enough
to grasp this, and that's cool, almost nobody is.

But your post is exactly how racism operates, perniciously.

And that you so boldly walked into the issue, is exactly
why everything is fucked up.

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150. "It's not that he's an imperfect victim... he's a reasonable victim"
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He's consistently made destructive political moves throughout his playing and coaching career that should make anybody that's paying attention a little leery of his ability to build and develop constructive relationships in a basketball organization.

That makes his questionable relationship with Jabari more believable and, given the teams general lack of progress and some of the other issues directly attributable to him, gives the organization sufficient reason to make a move.

That doesn't mean prejudice plays no role; if he were white, I suspect he would've been given more times (undeservedly). That sounds more like white privilege than black oppression to me.

I understand they're 2 sides of the same coin but the nuance helps me train my ire correctly...i.e. I'd be more upset that a shiesty guy gets to keep his job unfairly than I would that a shiesty guy reasonably lost his job.

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152. "Good grief. You're a stinking liar, and I hope you're not a negro. "
In response to Reply # 150
Tue Jan-30-18 08:12 PM by Orbit_Established

  

          

>He's consistently made destructive political moves throughout
>his playing and coaching career that should make anybody
>that's paying attention a little leery of his ability to build
>and develop constructive relationships in a basketball
>organization.

He lead what is probably the worst team to every get to an
NBA Final in those New Jersey Nets (carried them by himself),
won a Championship with the 2011 Mavs. And Carlisle routinely
said how "he had a coach on the floor," and he was roundly praised
by everyone on that team.

So you're lying right off the bat.

Lol.

>That makes his questionable relationship with Jabari more
>believable

You mean the rumor spread by management that Jabari himself
just debunked? That "questionable relationship?"

All you need is a gun and a badge, because you're posting
exactly like a racist cop who is lying, copping reasons
to pull me over.


and, given the teams general lack of progress and
>some of the other issues directly attributable to him, gives
>the organization sufficient reason to make a move.

"Lack of progress."

You mean the development of maybe the biggest NBA project
in the last 15 years (at least)? Giannis went from a legit
nobody to one of the 5 best players in the league under
Kidd. And Giannis OPENLY CREDITED Kidd. Funny how we discredit
intelligent black athletes when they compliment somebody black.

And he did it this year WITHOUT their second best player,
and other future franchise cornerstone (Jabari).

So what in the entire fuck are you talking about?

>That doesn't mean prejudice plays no role; if he were white, I
>suspect he would've been given more times (undeservedly). That
>sounds more like white privilege than black oppression to me.

Wait...what?

Are you 11 years old?

If a black person isn't afforded opportunities that a white
person would have, that is, by definition, racist.

Good grief.

Do you read at all?


>I understand they're 2 sides of the same coin but the nuance
>helps me train my ire correctly...i.e. I'd be more upset that
>a shiesty guy gets to keep his job unfairly than I would that
>a shiesty guy reasonably lost his job.

Stop, and go read...anything.


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153. "There's a reason you focus on his playing career"
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Wed Jan-31-18 10:56 AM by Cocobrotha2

          

>>He's consistently made destructive political moves
>throughout
>>his playing and coaching career that should make anybody
>>that's paying attention a little leery of his ability to
>build
>>and develop constructive relationships in a basketball
>>organization.
>
>He lead what is probably the worst team to every get to an
>NBA Final in those New Jersey Nets (carried them by himself),
>
>won a Championship with the 2011 Mavs. And Carlisle routinely
>
>said how "he had a coach on the floor," and he was roundly
>praised
>by everyone on that team.
>
>So you're lying right off the bat.
>
>Lol.


And even when you talk about his playing career, you have to ignore the repeated incidents where he's undermined his teammates and coaches.

No doubt he was a supremely talented player who understands the X's and O's, has a feel for the flow of the game and maximized his talent on the court to be a hall of fame player.

He was still a repeated dick to those around him and that aspect of him has carried on into his coaching career and is likely limiting his career.

>>That makes his questionable relationship with Jabari more
>>believable
>
>You mean the rumor spread by management that Jabari himself
>just debunked? That "questionable relationship?"
>
>All you need is a gun and a badge, because you're posting
>exactly like a racist cop who is lying, copping reasons
>to pull me over.


Cmon man, these players very rarely own up to disliking their coaches in the media. They don't want that "coach killer" label.

I mean, I believe Giannis' relationship was genuine because of how far he went to try to save Kidd but Jabari's lukewarm statement well after the fact reads like PR.


>and, given the teams general lack of progress and
>>some of the other issues directly attributable to him, gives
>>the organization sufficient reason to make a move.
>
>"Lack of progress."
>
>You mean the development of maybe the biggest NBA project
>in the last 15 years (at least)? Giannis went from a legit
>nobody to one of the 5 best players in the league under
>Kidd. And Giannis OPENLY CREDITED Kidd. Funny how we
>discredit
>intelligent black athletes when they compliment somebody
>black.
>
>And he did it this year WITHOUT their second best player,
>and other future franchise cornerstone (Jabari).
>
>So what in the entire fuck are you talking about?

Is he Giannis's personal coach or the coach of the Bucks? Because while Giannis has been improving, the team has remained around .500 with a foot in and out of the playoffs despite their growing pool fo talent.

So it's great the he helped Giannis improve but that isn't his only job.

Every coach deals with issues like injuries that are outside of their control.. building strong relationships with the front office and their players helps them weather those issues.

>>That doesn't mean prejudice plays no role; if he were white,
>I
>>suspect he would've been given more times (undeservedly).
>That
>>sounds more like white privilege than black oppression to
>me.
>
>Wait...what?
>
>Are you 11 years old?
>
>If a black person isn't afforded opportunities that a white
>person would have, that is, by definition, racist.
>
>Good grief.
>
>Do you read at all?
>
>
>>I understand they're 2 sides of the same coin but the nuance
>>helps me train my ire correctly...i.e. I'd be more upset
>that
>>a shiesty guy gets to keep his job unfairly than I would
>that
>>a shiesty guy reasonably lost his job.
>
>Stop, and go read...anything.


You clearly DON'T read so ... happy POASTING.

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154. "My honest take is that you're an embarassment. "
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>
>And even when you talk about his playing career, you have to
>ignore the repeated incidents where he's undermined his
>teammates and coaches.

When? The Championship team with the Mavs, when Carlisle
routinely praised him as indispensable? Or the time he lead
an awful Nets team to the NBA Finals?

LOL

>He was still a repeated dick to those around him and that
>aspect of him has carried on into his coaching career and is
>likely limiting his career.

LMAO. Except for the times when he wasn't a dick, but was
a great teammate winning championships.

But ignore that, if youw ant.

>Cmon man, these players very rarely own up to disliking their
>coaches in the media. They don't want that "coach killer"
>label.

Oh, so you willing to call Jabari a LIAR just to hang on to
some fake story that you MADE UP?

>I mean, I believe Giannis' relationship was genuine because of
>how far he went to try to save Kidd but Jabari's lukewarm
>statement well after the fact reads like PR.

OH, "reads like." LMAO. That's what we doing now? We
calling Jabari a LIAR?

I BET IF GIANNIS HAD SAID ANYTHING NEGATIVE Y'ALL MOTHERFUCKERS
WOULD HAVE TAKEN IT AS GOSPEL.

You guys are such, sad, silly, wimpy sacks of shit.


>Is he Giannis's personal coach or the coach of the Bucks?
>Because while Giannis has been improving, the team has
>remained around .500 with a foot in and out of the playoffs
>despite their growing pool fo talent.

"Growing pool of talent!??!:

Where??!?

Tony Snell!?!?

LMAO

THE SECOND BEST PLAYER BLEW OUT HIS KNEE LAST YEAR.

And CONVENIENTLY he's coming back RIGHT as Kidd got
fired.

The Suns legit GAVE UP on Bledsoe, which is the only
reason he was available. (He's been playing well btw...
....but Kidd ain't got nothing to do wit that, right?)


>Every coach deals with issues like injuries that are outside
>of their control.. building strong relationships with the
>front office and their players helps them weather those
>issues.


OH WORD!?!?!?

So if the front office is toxic, you blaming the coach for it!?!?!!?


BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


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155. "bro...you CAN'T be this damn naive"
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>>Cmon man, these players very rarely own up to disliking
>>their coaches in the media. They don't want that "coach killer"
>>label.

>Oh, so you willing to call Jabari a LIAR just to hang on to
>some fake story that you MADE UP?

I really can't take you seriously on this...I believe you know his statement was PR bullshit, but since it lends to your argument that everyone must have loved Genius, you're taking it as scripture. It's fucking see-through and phony, stoppit.

>>I mean, I believe Giannis' relationship was genuine because
>of
>>how far he went to try to save Kidd but Jabari's lukewarm
>>statement well after the fact reads like PR.
>
>I BET IF GIANNIS HAD SAID ANYTHING NEGATIVE Y'ALL
>MOTHERFUCKERS
>WOULD HAVE TAKEN IT AS GOSPEL.

NO SHIT WE WOULD HAVE, BECAUSE PLAYERS DON'T SAY NEGATIVE SHIT ABOUT COACHES EVER, UNLESS THEY'RE DUMB. THAT'S MY FUCKING POINT.

  

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156. "He's not but he wouldn't have much to post if he were reasonable"
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157. "Ahh so your alternative is to call Jabari a liar? Bwhaahahah"
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>NO SHIT WE WOULD HAVE, BECAUSE PLAYERS DON'T SAY NEGATIVE SHIT
>ABOUT COACHES EVER, UNLESS THEY'RE DUMB. THAT'S MY FUCKING
>POINT.

So because Jabari's comments didn't fit the bullshit
narrative in your head, you ignore what he said and keep
the bullshit, unsubstantiated idea in your head?

Meanwhile, Giannis OPENLY DEFENDED Kidd. You want to
talk about not common? A superstar being like "I'll call
management for you" isn't common either.

You didn't focus on that, though, because you guys are
stinking liars.

Giannis will probably go down as one of the 3 greatest
project-success stories ever. (greater than Yao, Mutumbo,
or any other those guys, by a lot. Even Olajuwon was
able to hone his skills in college) He OPENLY praised
Kidd all the time. And when Kidd was fired, he OPENLY
expressed disdain.

Comment from you? "Oh, Giannis just being loyal."

This is the double standard bullshit I'm talking about.

Give Kidd the credit -- he turned Giannis into a well
rounded superstar, and Giannis the best Bucks player since
Kareem, and might be the best player in the league post-Lebron.

And Kidd did not get the opportunity to coach Giannis anywhere
NEAR his prime, or develop the team around the tandem of Jabari
and Giannis. And he didn't, like Thibs, get the chance to
bring anyone else in. (Other than Bledsoe who is mostly
head-case reclamation project that is actually succeeding...but
again, no credit to Kidd!)

It's unfair, full of double standards.


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111. "lol we know your schtick. keep glancing over what i wrote"
In response to Reply # 101


  

          

>
>...have been out:
>
>(i) his extremely high intelligence
>(ii)his extreme unselfishness
>
>Coaches have said it. Over and over and over.
>He had been an actual coach on the floor for years.
>This is not a debate.
>
>And he works like a maniac: few have ever improved their
>shooting more...ever. He's top 10 all time in 3s, for
>crying out loud, and was horrid coming into the league
>
>He's one of the most impressive and unique players in
>league history.


lol i'm not at all denying that and i don't think that the people that hired and fired him will.
Nothing is out there that implies the opposite.


>
>Everything else is silly. And so all this shit you're
>talking about that should make us believe what bums
>on the team are saying (AND NOT WHAT THE STAR OF THE
>FUCKING TEAM IS SAYING)?
>
>LOL.
>
>
>What, you think Kidd wrong because of the Jimmy
>Jackson feud over Toni Braxton back in 94-95?
>
>LMAO.
>
>You referring to dude's marital problems?
>
>LOL.
>
>
>This is my point:
>
>When you're black, you can be a savant and people still
>define you by random, nutjub rumors and shit from 20
>years ago.
>
>It's so offensive.

lol @ u naming 2 pre-tmz storylines.
i wasn't even thinking about that in the first place.
there are other documented workplace "problems". pretty recent ones, too.
we all have them. don't mean he is the guilty one. don't neccessarily mean he's always the victim either.
it's just one guy in here very desperate to ignore that possibility.
and that's actually the offensive part.

i said one-dimensional answers mostly don't apply in these situations.
i'm not saying being a troublemaker is what defines him. he's just been in situations (even in MIL) where this news doesn't come totally out of the blue.

kidd can be many things at the same time. one of those is being a HOFer, while maybe being "difficult" to other people and at the same time being liked by his star player.
just a possibility. i don't limit him to a bball genius, a race or one character trait.
you do that.

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116. "RE: lol we know your schtick. keep glancing over what i wrote"
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Wed Jan-24-18 10:21 PM by COOLEHMAGAZINE

          

>>
>>...have been out:
>>
>>(i) his extremely high intelligence
>>(ii)his extreme unselfishness
>>
>>Coaches have said it. Over and over and over.
>>He had been an actual coach on the floor for years.
>>This is not a debate.
>>
>>And he works like a maniac: few have ever improved their
>>shooting more...ever. He's top 10 all time in 3s, for
>>crying out loud, and was horrid coming into the league
>>
>>He's one of the most impressive and unique players in
>>league history.
>
>
>lol i'm not at all denying that and i don't think that the
>people that hired and fired him will.
>Nothing is out there that implies the opposite.
>
>
>>
>>Everything else is silly. And so all this shit you're
>>talking about that should make us believe what bums
>>on the team are saying (AND NOT WHAT THE STAR OF THE
>>FUCKING TEAM IS SAYING)?
>>
>>LOL.
>>
>>
>>What, you think Kidd wrong because of the Jimmy
>>Jackson feud over Toni Braxton back in 94-95?
>>
>>LMAO.
>>
>>You referring to dude's marital problems?
>>
>>LOL.
>>
>>
>>This is my point:
>>
>>When you're black, you can be a savant and people still
>>define you by random, nutjub rumors and shit from 20
>>years ago.
>>
>>It's so offensive.
>
>lol @ u naming 2 pre-tmz storylines.
>i wasn't even thinking about that in the first place.
>there are other documented workplace "problems". pretty recent
>ones, too.
>we all have them. don't mean he is the guilty one. don't
>neccessarily mean he's always the victim either.
>it's just one guy in here very desperate to ignore that
>possibility.
>and that's actually the offensive part.
>
>i said one-dimensional answers mostly don't apply in these
>situations.
>i'm not saying being a troublemaker is what defines him. he's
>just been in situations (even in MIL) where this news doesn't
>come totally out of the blue.
>
>kidd can be many things at the same time. one of those is
>being a HOFer, while maybe being "difficult" to other people
>and at the same time being liked by his star player.
>just a possibility. i don't limit him to a bball genius, a
>race or one character trait.
>you do that.
>


I used to think OE was a white guy trolling.

Then I decided, nah, he's a black guy havin' a laff©

Now I think maybe all of it's true.

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117. "RE: lol we know your schtick. keep glancing over what i wrote"
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>>>
>>>...have been out:
>>>
>>>(i) his extremely high intelligence
>>>(ii)his extreme unselfishness
>>>
>>>Coaches have said it. Over and over and over.
>>>He had been an actual coach on the floor for years.
>>>This is not a debate.
>>>
>>>And he works like a maniac: few have ever improved their
>>>shooting more...ever. He's top 10 all time in 3s, for
>>>crying out loud, and was horrid coming into the league
>>>
>>>He's one of the most impressive and unique players in
>>>league history.
>>
>>
>>lol i'm not at all denying that and i don't think that the
>>people that hired and fired him will.
>>Nothing is out there that implies the opposite.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Everything else is silly. And so all this shit you're
>>>talking about that should make us believe what bums
>>>on the team are saying (AND NOT WHAT THE STAR OF THE
>>>FUCKING TEAM IS SAYING)?
>>>
>>>LOL.
>>>
>>>
>>>What, you think Kidd wrong because of the Jimmy
>>>Jackson feud over Toni Braxton back in 94-95?
>>>
>>>LMAO.
>>>
>>>You referring to dude's marital problems?
>>>
>>>LOL.
>>>
>>>
>>>This is my point:
>>>
>>>When you're black, you can be a savant and people still
>>>define you by random, nutjub rumors and shit from 20
>>>years ago.
>>>
>>>It's so offensive.
>>
>>lol @ u naming 2 pre-tmz storylines.
>>i wasn't even thinking about that in the first place.
>>there are other documented workplace "problems". pretty
>recent
>>ones, too.
>>we all have them. don't mean he is the guilty one. don't
>>neccessarily mean he's always the victim either.
>>it's just one guy in here very desperate to ignore that
>>possibility.
>>and that's actually the offensive part.
>>
>>i said one-dimensional answers mostly don't apply in these
>>situations.
>>i'm not saying being a troublemaker is what defines him.
>he's
>>just been in situations (even in MIL) where this news
>doesn't
>>come totally out of the blue.
>>
>>kidd can be many things at the same time. one of those is
>>being a HOFer, while maybe being "difficult" to other people
>>and at the same time being liked by his star player.
>>just a possibility. i don't limit him to a bball genius, a
>>race or one character trait.
>>you do that.
>>
>
>
>I used to think OE was a white guy trolling.
>
>Then I decided, nah, he's a black guy havin' a laff©
>
>Now I think maybe all of it's true.

Shit, he could at least be funny with it. black or white it's somehow amazing this dude is going so hard investing so much time to be loud and wrong... for years lol. I hope it's the only board he's wasting his time.


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114. "Giannis speaks, defends Kidd, OKS silent and sad. "
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Openly credits Kidd with success

OKS: "But Kidd fought with Jimmy Jackson over Toni Braxton
in 1995"

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22202564/giannis-antetokounmpo-milwaukee-bucks-wished-jason-kidd-conversation-only-them



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115. "139-152? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
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thats an even longer period of shittiness than i realized

youre taking a stand over a guy that won less than half of THREE HUNDRED GAMES

lololololololololol

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118. "he's a genius, don't forget"
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119. "i had no idea he had coached there that long"
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i honestly thought he started like this time of year in 2016

but a losing record through 4 fuckin years?

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120. "Lol. He inherited a 15-67 team, been .500 or above 3/4 seasons. "
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He's doing a fine job.

Again: y'all didn't say this when Thibs was going
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122. "Dunc'd on Pod pointed out, easiest stretch of schedule coming"
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and the management fired him now, after the hardest part, so the new guy could get the credit for the Ws.

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123. "interesting read..."
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http://journaltimes.com/print_specific/column/gery-woelfel-kidd-had-rocky-relationships-with-several-players/article_919bcbe3-8e6e-55f2-b6d0-156c242d960c.html

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125. "Bucks been ballin since the genius left Wisconsin "
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Mad?

  

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126. "Kidd was fired after the toughest part of the schedule, the easiest..."
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part was coming up that’s why that shitbag Horst fired him when he did.

Nice try though.

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128. "Genius was 0-2 against the Bulls before getting shitcanned"
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130. "LOL. No backtracking. You're late and getting fucked up. "
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127. "post #122. n/m"
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139. "facts don't matter (c) desus"
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----
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140. "the only fact is the Bucks are 4-0 since the fire"
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you guys just have speculation about motives.

  

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145. "The fact is that this is the easiest stretch of the season. "
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That is a fact.

Something is wrong with you, not sure what.

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147. "Genius lost all kinds of "easy" games on the schedule"
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alllllll kinds.

  

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149. "Thibs lost 51 last year, with two #1 overalls, and was given a chance. "
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Kidd had his team at .500, without their second best player,
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129. "LMAO!! Well, looks like everyone else shitting on you. Embarassing. "
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131. "Giannis playing like ass since Genius left"
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Unmotivated, dejected, confused. Poor attitude.

Just kidding, loser. The master player developer is no longer needed. And you’re mad as fuck, praying the Bucks go on a long losing streak.

  

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132. "Lolz. Giannis an all-time great, and attached to Kidd forever. "
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>Unmotivated, dejected, confused. Poor attitude.

Actually, no. According to Giannis, Kidd taught him how
to be well rounded and a star. So Giannis gonna be incredible.

>Just kidding, loser. The master player developer is no longer
>needed. And you’re mad as fuck, praying the Bucks go on a
>long losing streak.

Kidd was fired right when the schedule gets easy, it's
transparent. AND JABARI coming back.


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135. "Let's give Genius 100% of the credit for Giannis"
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just for the sake of your argument, even though it's dumb to believe. You still haven't explained why that made Kidd immune and entitled him to keep his coaching job going FORWARD.

  

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136. "LMAO &quot;entitled.&quot; He was coaching at .500. Thibs coached a 31-5..."
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>just for the sake of your argument, even though it's dumb to
>believe. You still haven't explained why that made Kidd
>immune and entitled him to keep his coaching job going
>FORWARD.

And Thibs was afforded the opportunity to see his project
through.

Kidd DIDN'T HAVE HIS HIGHEST DRAFT PICK and second best
player on HIS TEAM.

Now it's in the open that the team was lying about his
broken relationships with players.

If you just admit that it was unfair now, then it's all
good, I won't judge you

But don't keep doing this.


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137. "can you just admit thibs is in year 2 and kidd was in year 4"
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apples to oranges comparison there.
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138. "not to mention he's been past the first round multiple times"
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and made a conference final.

  

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143. "With a league MVP #1 overall pick and multiple all-stars, you imbecile. "
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What is wrong with you?

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142. "Admit Thibs had 2 #1 overall picks, one already a surefire superstar. "
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Kidd inherited a 15-67 team, and Giannis, who is
one of the great projects in NBA history.

(He'll end his career the greatest project success
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133. "Jabari denies beef with Kidd...PR move or no?"
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https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nba/bucks/2018/01/23/jabari-parker-rejects-reports-rift-jason-kidd/1057094001/

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134. "Yeah, obvious at this point that they lied, and tarnished Kidd's name"
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>https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nba/bucks/2018/01/23/jabari-parker-rejects-reports-rift-jason-kidd/1057094001/

Pretty obvious at this point.

Fairly routine for black folks.



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141. "Lol...if he did, why the hell would he admit it?"
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what would be gained by doing so? Of course every player gonna say shit was all good.

  

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144. "Are you on drugs? Do you need help? "
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>what would be gained by doing so? Of course every player
>gonna say shit was all good.

I'm serious -- what is wrong with you?

I don't recall you being this much of an idiot.

This is sad to watch

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146. "I'm 30 now bro...everything's going downhill fast"
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jk. Care to answer my questions though?

  

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148. "Just admit the The front office lied, and is getting embarrassed. "
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It's really not that uncommon

>jk. Care to answer my questions though?

The superstar player, and the teams' biggest star since
Kareem, openly and aggressively supported Kidd.

With that having leaked and ruined the PR smear campaign,
they then leaked a story about Kidd not getting along with
the second best player (and other potential future star).
Jabari Parker.

So that means two of most promising pieces of the team
had nothing to do with the firing.

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151. "Probably a little unfair. But fuck Kidd."
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One of the biggest douchebags and coach-killers in NBA history winding up on the business end of the sort of bullshit he orchestrated time and time again? Outstanding schadenfreude. Byron Scott says hello.

  

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158. "Bucks are 9-2 since the firing, now the 4 seed"
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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159. "post #122"
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160. "because if there's one thing Genius was good at, it was "
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winning all the games that should have been won.

  

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161. "FOH no stretch guarantees a .900 winning percentage lmao"
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it's a small sample but so far the coaching change seems like it was the right move.

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165. "7th seed now could be 8th by the weekend "
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162. "DEVELOPPING SITUATION: 6-4 in the last 10"
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the wins are an impressive OT win in Toronto and 5 wins against the absolute dregs of the league. they're 1-4 during that stretch against potential playoff teams.

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163. "I've had enough: I'm paypalling you beer money. "
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>the wins are an impressive OT win in Toronto and 5 wins
>against the absolute dregs of the league. they're 1-4 during
>that stretch against potential playoff teams.

Enough of this, we're battling for the heart of
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164. "1-6 vs teams with winning records in February, lost 5 of their last 8..."
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still Kidd’s fault?

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166. "RE: 1-6 vs teams with winning records in February, lost 5 of their last ..."
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Obviously. He really must have been a bad coach since he is affecting their ability to win games over a month after being let go.

  

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167. "While you bullshitting, that actually happens to black people. "
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>Obviously. He really must have been a bad coach since he is
>affecting their ability to win games over a month after being
>let go.

Black people get blamed in that way all the time


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168. "Shoulda grabbed Fizdale now"
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Let him work his systems in the rest of the year and playoffs, be ready to go all in next year.


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172. "How about this option: Neither Kidd NOR Fitzdale should have been fired...."
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How about that one?

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169. "8th place fortunately for them the rest of the east is so bad there's..."
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little chance of them falling all the way out of the playoffs

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bshelly
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170. "Somebody oughta rank the most screwed over black coaches "
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jason kidd has to be pushing for the top five, but has been more screwed over than nate mcmillian? mike brown might be the GOAT, except he did get 3 jobs (even though he got completely screwed at the last two).

last place: alvin gentry

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171. "So: this was a better basketball team before they fired Jason Kidd. "
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Just an FYI.

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173. "Shelly v. Andrew Sharp. "
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Shelly: so this still kidd’s Fault or naw

SI sports celebrity Andrew Sharp: emphatic yes

Shelly: I applaud your dedication to a dying argument.

Sharp: ....

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174. "Hi. "
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