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"thibs and jimmy: best minny duo since jam and lewis?"


  

          

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/1/8/16861934/nba-jimmy-butler-minnesota-timberwolves-tom-thibodeau

since the beginning of december, the wolves have literally been the best team in the NBA. 1st in net rating, 1st in offense, 9th in defense. they're on pace to win TWENTY more games than they did last year. right today, butler is a top 5 MVP candidate and thibs is probably the frontrunner for exec of the year. they've even gotten KAT to actually try defensively.

ima really need y'all to talk about it more. word. because there's been a whole lot of greasy talk about those two on this board over the years.

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FUN TYUS STONES FACT:
Jan 09th 2018
1
better than lawson and rubio...all that's left is conley. we'll see. *sh...
Jan 09th 2018
4
oh, tyler?
Jan 09th 2018
5
Tyus vs. IT that game:
Jan 09th 2018
7
The Education of Tyler Jones
Jan 10th 2018
15
      Someday soon, it won't just be Wolves/Duke fans who notice him.
Jan 10th 2018
22
RE: FUN TYUS STONES FACT:
Jan 10th 2018
13
Lulz. Team has 3 and 4 all-star calibers getting significant minutes.
Jan 09th 2018
2
^^^focused
Jan 09th 2018
3
And correct. Where's the lie?
Jan 09th 2018
6
      https://tinyurl.com/y7tglrgj
Jan 09th 2018
8
      Yeah, they're not overachieving by any means
Jan 09th 2018
10
      (Team is better with Tyus than with Teague, for the record.)
Jan 09th 2018
11
           dude just stop it lol...
Jan 10th 2018
14
                RE: dude just stop it lol...
Jan 10th 2018
18
Speak that truth my G. I heard Stephen A. say the same thing today too.
Jan 09th 2018
9
I just want the usual suspects on this board that called Jimmy Butler...
Jan 10th 2018
12
not that anyone is a lebron stopper...
Jan 10th 2018
20
      RE: not that anyone is a lebron stopper...
Jan 10th 2018
35
Butler carried this team through late December
Jan 10th 2018
16
RE: Butler carried this team through late December
Jan 10th 2018
17
This is why I thought they might get that 3 seed over the Spurs
Jan 10th 2018
19
really with the Rockets in a free fall the 2 seed is up for grabs but...
Jan 10th 2018
21
Since folks in here are putting them on that pedestal
Jan 10th 2018
23
top 4. win a series.
Jan 10th 2018
24
No lower than 5 seed, barring major injury
Jan 11th 2018
43
Let's reel this in for a minute. Thibs isn't doing anything most coaches...
Jan 10th 2018
25
damn, bruh...
Jan 10th 2018
26
TheRealLavarBall?
Jan 10th 2018
27
LOL...Jamal...he gonna be the BEST EVA!
Jan 10th 2018
28
      "B-Knight, Bron, Young, Bam, and Daniel Orton. Title. It's a wrap."
Jan 10th 2018
29
      Says the guy who's written multiple posts on "Tyler Jones"
Jan 10th 2018
32
           To be honest, I just wanted to use the Var "wrap" format in a joke.
Jan 10th 2018
33
      My bad...didn't mean to poo poo your sideways Bulls success story
Jan 10th 2018
31
           How you mad at jokes? He called you LaVar Ball fam
Jan 11th 2018
37
                Lol... I'm saying fam I got serious gripes with the Wolves.
Jan 11th 2018
38
                idk man, i feel like they're running right on schedule.
Jan 11th 2018
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                RBO griping at Thibs
Jan 11th 2018
39
                     yeah i'm not going to defend the minutes thing...
Jan 11th 2018
40
                          A high usage rate is going to glaringly stand out though
Jan 11th 2018
42
Deadspin recently had a good article about the minutes
Jan 10th 2018
30
      right he's going to grind those dudes to dust, see Rose, Noah, Deng etc....
Jan 11th 2018
36
good game, jimmy.
Jan 10th 2018
34
jamal crawford on thibodeau:
Jan 17th 2018
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1. "FUN TYUS STONES FACT:"
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@AaronGleeman

Tyus Jones has now started 10 games. His plus/minus in those games:

+22
+3
+20
+4
+30
+23
+9
-8
+14
+36

Jones has been plus in all but one of his 10 starts, and overall as a starter he's +153 points in 337 minutes or +22 points per 48 minutes.

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4. "better than lawson and rubio...all that's left is conley. we'll see. *sh..."
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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5. "oh, tyler?"
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Tue Jan-09-18 06:50 PM by dula dibiasi

  

          

http://es.pn/2CTlc6h

bron getting old.

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7. "Tyus vs. IT that game:"
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Tue Jan-09-18 06:58 PM by Frank Longo

  

          

Tyus: 6 points, 3-8 shooting, 8 assists to 1 turnover, 2 steals, +36
IT: 9 points, 3-11 shooting, 3 assists to 3 turnovers, no steals, -20

I thought IT was the difference maker. Hmmm.

I would love nothing more than if the Wolves fucked around and somehow knocked out the Warriors.

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15. "The Education of Tyler Jones"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeamKWfJsoQ

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22. "Someday soon, it won't just be Wolves/Duke fans who notice him."
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Wed Jan-10-18 10:39 AM by Frank Longo

  

          

The fact that he's only 21 with his basketball IQ, even at the NBA level, is mind-boggling.

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13. "RE: FUN TYUS STONES FACT:"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2627956&mesg_id=2627956&listing_type=search

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2. "Lulz. Team has 3 and 4 all-star calibers getting significant minutes. "
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Including one of the best young players in the world in KAT,
another #1 overall, a former All star guard who has been hurt,
and Jimmy, who has been all world for years.

LOL.

They are playing like a loaded team with tons of talent
should play.

Sam Mitchell didn't get this team to play with, as niggas
like that never do.




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3. "^^^focused"
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i love it.

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6. "And correct. Where's the lie? "
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>i love it.

KAT is one of the 3 best big men in basketball, and
is going to be top 5 in the league for the next decade
plus.

Jimmy doing Jimmy.

Wiggins is still Wiggins: maybe the best athlete in
the league.

Teague was an All-star in 2015.

Team is loaded.



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8. "https://tinyurl.com/y7tglrgj"
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https://tinyurl.com/y7tglrgj

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10. "Yeah, they're not overachieving by any means"
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Although Wiggins "maybe the best athlete in the league"... come on

  

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11. "(Team is better with Tyus than with Teague, for the record.)"
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Tue Jan-09-18 11:37 PM by Frank Longo

  

          

(Tyus has better ORtg, better DRtg, better BPM, better VORP, better WS/48-- Teague has a *negative* BPM.)

(Not to discount anything else you're saying, just pointing out that they're better when the 2015 All-Star is on the bench. Carry on.)

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14. "dude just stop it lol..."
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>(Tyus has better ORtg, better DRtg, better BPM, better VORP,
>better WS/48-- Teague has a *negative* BPM.)

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18. "RE: dude just stop it lol..."
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>>(Tyus has better ORtg, better DRtg, better BPM, better
>VORP,
>>better WS/48-- Teague has a *negative* BPM.


lol

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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9. "Speak that truth my G. I heard Stephen A. say the same thing today too."
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Sam got shafted.

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12. "I just want the usual suspects on this board that called Jimmy Butler..."
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...A non star or whatever bullshit they uttered to just admit they were wrong...

Butler is in the MVP mix....He's leading the Wolves...On both sides of the ball....In the West...

The cracks about "The Mechanic," who happens to be one of the most clutch players in the league in the 4th quarter (his per in the 4Q and overtime is now up to 35.8...For a wild comparison Jordan holds the record at 32.9 back in 96/97) not being the caliber of Klay or whoever now come off as pretty much hilariously foolish....

Now back to breakfast...More Earl Grey....

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20. "not that anyone is a lebron stopper..."
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but butler is as close as it gets. (lebron slower?)

he's won their last 7 head-to-head matchups, and just held him to his lowest scoring game in 10 years.

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35. "RE: not that anyone is a lebron stopper..."
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Wow...never knew that stat....Interesting....

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16. "Butler carried this team through late December"
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When KAT was slumping and Wiggins continued with his inconsistent fuckery.

It's his team now.

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17. "RE: Butler carried this team through late December"
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>When KAT was slumping and Wiggins continued with his
>inconsistent fuckery.
>
>It's his team now.


This.....I mean.....it was his team as soon as he was traded there.....

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19. "This is why I thought they might get that 3 seed over the Spurs"
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and with Leonard banged up, the wolves hitting a decent stride, I think it'll happen.

  

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21. "really with the Rockets in a free fall the 2 seed is up for grabs but..."
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the Spurs have played well without Kawhi so I wouldn't count them out yet

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23. "Since folks in here are putting them on that pedestal"
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where will this team land in the post-season? Fair question to ask since folks have them on that next level, no?

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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24. "top 4. win a series."
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reasonable short term goal for a team coming off a 31 win season and a 14 year playoff drought.

lulz @ "pedestal" btw.

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43. "No lower than 5 seed, barring major injury"
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25. "Let's reel this in for a minute. Thibs isn't doing anything most coaches..."
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wouldn't be doing.

The team has talent.

What Thibs is doing is playing his guys too many minutes... AGAIN.

Thibs has also not transformed the defense. I thought that's what he was supposed to do.

Now Jimmy is finally playing well. He still shoots too much and plays ball stopping offense.

And Jimmy is still the same guy who blew an 0-2 lead last year to the Celtics after Rondo went down.

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26. "damn, bruh..."
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https://78.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4c72xeaBF1qkdieno1_500.gif

...private when I fly, ball out like Bron do. You in the game, but you sit n' coach like Tyronn Lue - Royce

  

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27. "TheRealLavarBall?"
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"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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28. "LOL...Jamal...he gonna be the BEST EVA!"
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-Why wouldn't John Wall be MVP?
-Rondo, Brow and Boogie = DYNASTY!!!
-I could out-GM Danny Ainge RIGHT NOW! He too white, can't identify with the players!
-BIG BLUEGRASS BRAND BABY!!! :-D
-Jay Triano done lost the team! He too young! Ain't no way you losing that much with that many UK players on the roster. He lost 'em!

  

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29. ""B-Knight, Bron, Young, Bam, and Daniel Orton. Title. It's a wrap.""
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32. "Says the guy who's written multiple posts on "Tyler Jones""
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33. "To be honest, I just wanted to use the Var "wrap" format in a joke."
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I wanted to throw Jon Hood in there but I thought that might be overplaying the gag.

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31. "My bad...didn't mean to poo poo your sideways Bulls success story"
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37. "How you mad at jokes? He called you LaVar Ball fam"
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I just added on mixing in RBOisms.

I guess if KAT don't get all the shine, you got the sad emoji face huh?

My bad.

For future reference...just laugh playboi.

  

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38. "Lol... I'm saying fam I got serious gripes with the Wolves. "
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My bad.

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41. "idk man, i feel like they're running right on schedule."
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they've got the highest scoring offense in the league outside of GS/HOU.

the defense is really starting to coalesce (http://on.nba.com/2mk2avu)

guys are starting to figure out their roles and get comfortable in them.

i think they're on track to be a legitimate title contender within the next season or two.

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39. "RBO griping at Thibs"
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mixed with the timing of Lavar Ball being in the sporting news cycle for throwing renewed shots at Luke Walton made it too hard for me not to make that reference. I didn't mean anything other than that because honestly, I don't have too much interest in the Wolves this regular season. And I think it's fair that if he is indeed playing his starters for huge minutes in the regular season, it stands to reason they will have it difficult in the post-season.

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40. "yeah i'm not going to defend the minutes thing..."
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i mean

http://bkref.com/tiny/6J1gk

that's just ridiculous.

but i do think it's kind of corny that it's literally the ONLY thing people ever want to talk about when they discuss thibodeau. as if him playing his main guys 3 or 4 mpg more than he probably should completely nullifies everything else about him that makes him a great coach.

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42. "A high usage rate is going to glaringly stand out though"
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given that other teams routinely rest their star players during the regular season. I don't follow the Timberwolves too tough, so I dunno if their bench is that weak as to where Thibs is forced to play his starter that hard. I suppose they could do well enough in the first rounds of the playoffs if they play against a lower seeded team that doesn't have the luxury of resting players due to trying get decent seeding, but they'll have to hard to play against top tier teams with reasonably rested players in further rounds.

This has nothing to do with the Timberwolves or this post in general, but it was pretty surprising to see Harrison Barnes and Wesley Mathews so high up on that minutes played list since the Mavericks are toxic refuse. I guess Mark Cuban is a believer of those dudes earning their relatively large paychecks.

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30. "Deadspin recently had a good article about the minutes"
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Crazy regular season minutes = burnout in May. I think there is some truth to that.

https://deadspin.com/tom-thibodeau-is-destruction-1821265024

  

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36. "right he's going to grind those dudes to dust, see Rose, Noah, Deng etc...."
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>Crazy regular season minutes = burnout in May. I think there
>is some truth to that.
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>https://deadspin.com/tom-thibodeau-is-destruction-1821265024
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>

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34. "good game, jimmy."
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44. "jamal crawford on thibodeau:"
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http://hoopshype.com/2018/01/15/jamal-crawford-on-the-wolves-success-tom-thibodeaus-minute-distribution-jimmy-butlers-dominance-lavar-ball-and-more/

You’ve played for so many different coaches. I think it’s up to 18 now. What is Tom Thibodeau like compared to your previous coaches and how has your experience with Thibs been so far?

JC: Nobody is more prepared than him. Nobody. Nobody has watched more film of us, and nobody has watched more film of the opposition. I’m willing to bet anything on that. He just spends so much time preparing and knowing everything about teams, inside and out. He’s unbelievable when it comes to that stuff. People may see him screaming on TV – or actually hear him screaming through the TV – but it’s because he truly loves the game and he’s really passionate. I’ve learned that about him. He’s just trying to get us to be the best versions of ourselves, and he really wants us to take that next step as a group. We’re trying and we’re getting a lot better, and I think we’re hearing his message clearer.

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