well, i just checked the standings. it's not true. they still sorry.

oh well.

sooner or later, potential is just pretendtial.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

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those three problems are all related. when embiid is not on the floor, they are not a competitive team and with both him and simmons sitting they are terrible. mcconnell tries to pull his weight and i respect his hustle but he is not a good player. redick is not entirely one-dimensional but pretty close, if his shot is off what he gives you in other areas won't really help you win. these are their guys. bayless is junk, that was a junk signing from minute 1. you can't win much with weak guard play. simmons is the only decent guard they have and they have a some gap-pluggers (covington, saric, holmes) who are adequate in their roles. if fultz pans out, they are in great shape long-term. if embiid can stay healthy, they can finish .500 this year. this thread is just factless, agenda-based bullshit.

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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

TJ has been phenomenal doing all he can, but not having a 3rd facilitator has been KILLING.

And Bayless being one of our top 3 shooting guards, man...

(and that's shooting a way higher percentage of mid-range jumpers/3s)

(also scored the same number of points as Simmons on the season on 100 fewer shot attempts)

... TATUM FOR ROY

*darts out of post dodging tomatoes/cheese steaks*

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Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

Mitchell so not sure why you expect anyone to take your opinions remotely serious when it involves a Duke agenda.

Tatum is absolutely great at what he does, but he's not asked to do all things that Simmons does. Also, Simmons has plenty of time to develop into an elite player. His ceiling is higher. And while he has a glaring weakness, he's still highly productive and impacting the game in a variety of ways.

nm

tatum don't HAVE to do all the padding BS that don't translate into a winning record shit simmons does.

tatum is an efficient and highly-skilled scorer and potentially an all-D guy, something bulldog head and simmons are not.

just recognize and stop looking for things to say.

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Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

First it was Kennard was way better than Mitchell.

Then it was, "well, anyone can put up #'s if given the green light he's given."

Then it was, "well, he's a basic combo guard that will never put up 20 points in a game in the NBA."

Now, it's just pretend you never said anything and compare Mitchell to Tatum and not the guy you said would be much better who also happened to be drafted 1 spot ahead of Mitchell.

>First it was Kennard was way better than Mitchell.

he is. and? kennard's last performance was a sign of things to come and his skill level, not an aberration. you just setting up to get walked down when your guy tops out as bledsoe II. but quinn is a great coach, so you might get lucky.


>Then it was, "well, anyone can put up #'s if given the green
>light he's given."

it's true. anyone from rodney stuckey to monta.


>Then it was, "well, he's a basic combo guard that will never
>put up 20 points in a game in the NBA."

he not at 20.

>Now, it's just pretend you never said anything and compare
>Mitchell to Tatum and not the guy you said would be much
>better who also happened to be drafted 1 spot ahead of
>Mitchell.

YOU made them about mitchell and tatum over a summer league game.

a summer league game.

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Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

>Mitchell so not sure why you expect anyone to take your
>opinions remotely serious when it involves a Duke agenda.

I liked Kennard more coming into the draft, as did many. Mitchell is having a better season. I said it just now if I haven’t before. Is that a comment no one should take serious too?

>Tatum is absolutely great at what he does, but he's not asked
>to do all things that Simmons does.

I agree. (Kennard is not asked to do the things Mitchell is asked to do either. Wouldn’t you agree? Or is that just my Duke bias making me wrong for thinking that’s true?)

Also, Simmons has plenty
>of time to develop into an elite player.

I agree.

His ceiling is
>higher.

I agree.

And while he has a glaring weakness, he's still highly
>productive and impacting the game in a variety of ways.

I agree. Should all of your comments that I never disagreed with be discounted because I agree with them?

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expectations went thru the roof.

2 weeks ago i saw some talking head saying that other than cleveland, philly could beat anyone in the east in a playoff series.

last night, barkley said that if they miss the playoffs this would be a "disastrous" season for them. disastrous!

when the ringer ranked their top 25 last month, i think they had simmons and embiid both in the top 12.

like, niggas REALLY came off the top rope with the philly hype this year.

this is the nba. you can't skip steps. they won 28 games last year. if they get to 35 or 40 wins, simmons goes RotY, they get 60 healthy games out of embiid, and fultz shows anything at all whenever he gets on the court, then they've had a perfectly fine season. their train's running on schedule imo.

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very disappointing

IRT Simmons, teams are giving him the Tony Allen treatment, playing off of him outside the paint and daring him to shoot

Embiid gon Embiid though, very happy with him this year

still looks to be running at about 80%, but his face up/perimeter game, eurostep, defense...very very impressive

some things to mention

they've had the hardest schedule to date

Embiid still in and out of the lineup

still don't see an identity on O or D, side eye to Brett Brown

Fultz is going to play soon...

...so this could turn into another Basa diarrhea post quickly

but yes, a team relying on a rookie and 2nd year player as their primary producers are not setting the league on fire

thanks for pointing it out

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really?

i'd rather a "harder" schedule than 5 more games in the same amount of time.

plus, strength of schedule is in part affected by the team's quality--good teams have worse SoS because they can't play themselves. So, for example, the two games the Cs and 76ers played hurt the Cs' SoS because the sixers aren't good but helped the sixers because the Cs are good. That's about 8% of the sixers' current schedule. that matters for these numbers.

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+ as expected with a young team, they're losing close games

through 34 games they've been outscored by a total of 37 points

SOS is one thing I mentioned among a few things

when take them into consideration

and have a 15-19 result, is it time to jump out the window?

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you can't understand it with an explanation

and it's a pathetic one.

embiid is a much better one. 1-7 without him = 14-12 with him.

but were those "hard" games on the schedule??!?!?!

also, losing close games? they're right at their expected win/loss. they should be about 4 games under .500 if they've been outscored by <40 points. WTF type of plea is that?


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mentioning

We're not chasing BOS or GSW

As we get into some easier stretches and hopefully the other issues get addressed, I still do expect us to be in the offs this year

It sounds like you disagree with the premise of the OP

Care to discuss?

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how different is it, really?

also, you are competing with BOS and GSW. It ain't about being a mediocre playoff team, it was about being a championship level squad. y'all aren't. /story (for this year and almost definitely next year too).

the team is joel embiid, a potentially amazing but extremely flawed Ben Simmons and then some average NBA dudes and some shouldn't see the court dudes. it's meh. like its record, it's average at best. could be good real soon, but we've seen that before.

maybe next year. then again, next year the Cs will be even better than this year's version, so...

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FOH

Is there any precedent for a team going from 28Ws to a chip in 1 year?

Maybe the year Robinson sat out for SAN?

Last time, the schedule was 1 of a few issues I raised

You don't believe it's a valid problem for any NBA team, got it

Care to discuss any of the other issues I raised?

LOL@chip this year or L, that's not even quality trolling, it's just delusional.

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you can't understand it with an explanation

but "we aren't competing with..." is bullshit. yeah, not this year but that's what the goal always is--is a team on the way to that level.

the process was blowing up a mediocre playoff squad so that it'd have a chance at a chip. that's the goal. anything less than chip-level squad is a fail of a process.

you are competing with boston and GSW in the upcoming few years. and people were talking pretty cocky about how it'd be faster than expected. man...it's slower than expected right today.

so when does the process end? when do we talk about THIS YEAR'S team instead of it's potential to get better in the "future"?
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best case scenario is the balls bounce right and they get two top 5 picks with their own and the lakers pick.

i guarantee they will party like shit and count that as a win. that's how wack they are.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

you made this thread looking at the standings but that is BS. they dropped when embiid's back got fucked up. no one is claiming that they are much to look at beyond their two stars and maybe fultz in the future.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

premise of your post: i thought the sixers had two young legends, how come they aren't winning with them? maybe they aren't that good because the team isn't winning with them.

reality: team lost their ass without them.

not hard to grasp you obtuse loser.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

nm

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

either way we are partying off the near future. if the season ended right today, they'd be in the playoffs. that's fine but not a huge deal. if they miss and add a good player in the draft, also fine. you're making it out like someone had huge expectations for them. they were the worst team in the league last year so anything around .500 would be a big step forward.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

TJ is a fine rotation player. Everybody else on the bench shouldn’t be in an nba rotation.

I’m getting real worried about Colangelo. All of the FAs he’s brought in are unplayable except for JJ, who was a good signing but is only here this year. He’s also left the team bereft of wings and ball handlers. Fultz should help there eventually, but the lack of wings are going to haunt this team.

Of course, none of this has anything to with Embiid or Simmons, so I’m gonna go ahead and bookmark yet another thread for when Simmons is averaging 20 ppg next season and the Sixers are the 4 seed.

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and get him more on the block

Having him try to get to the hoop while also bringing the ball up the court is getting easy to defend

and when he swings it, it's not coming back to him

Still hopeful for this year

and Saric will then probably go to the bench

with Booker, we should have some assemblance of a bench

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They have two good players, one potentially good player (and another who is injured) and two or three guys who are in their appropriate roles more or less.

Colangelo has been trash from day one. He bungled the asset management of Noel and Okafor. He signed Bayless inexplicably to a three-year deal, the only redeeming thing is that it will expire before Simmons' rookie contract is up. The Fultz deal is TBD but it didn't seem all that process-y, we'll see how the two guys pan out and what the pick turns into though. And, of course, he has done nothing good to redeem his fuckups or shown any kind of clear approach like even above-average GMs do. He seems to be from the Ernie Grunfeld school of mediocrity and capriciousness.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

they count as good. not difference makers, but those dudes could both start on teams making deep runs. cleveland would kill to swap crowder for cov.

saric, yeah you're probably right that he's not quite there yet. he needs to be able to trigger the second team offense better before we say he's good, but he certainly seems on track. and tj is a damn good backup PG.

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"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

Not the same thing as a good player. Covington is kinda close and Saric may get there. The other guys are who they are.

Seems like semantics overall as our overall assessment is the same.

The team is not very deep and the most talented guys are still pretty wet behind the ears. This thread is just opportunism partying off the slump while Embiid has been out or playing at 70%. Of course the Tatum/Simmons comparison is also ridiculous. Simmons is the only guy who can make plays with the ball on his team and carries a huge load. Tatum can pick his spots and take advantage of space from a much better team with an established No. 1 star.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

He’s in year 3 and firmly behind the corpse of Amir Johnson. You gotta give me more than that for me to care.

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"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God