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Monies:
****PAYMENT IS DUE IMMEDIATELY****
Total due currently for those who haven't paid: $68
You have until 11:59pm on December 31st to pay without further penalty.
paypal for payment: emystery@yahoo.com or paypal.me/auraginboi

Missing payment:
-Theo ($4 balance...you were 2 days late)
-Shawn (if you're paying)
-Smerf (gonna pay when 2 of his first 4 draft picks are healthy)

****Late payment penalty schedule ***
Missed Oct deadline date = $4
No payment by Nov 30th = $4
No payment by Dec 31st = $4
No payment by Jan 31st = $4
No payment by Feb 28/29th = $4
No payment by Mar 31st = $4
No payment until the entire season is over = $25 total penalty

This would make the fee $85 at seasons end ($60 entry plus $25 penalty).

Gonna post this every rankings until everyone has paid.

Rankings-

1) Ghostown DJs (15-6), 303.8 (LR=3)(Shawn) - Shawn's winning with minimal effort. He's so awesome.

2) Virgin Island Presidents (15-6), 294.8 (LR=2)(Theo) - Theo's probably made 4 post all season yet his team is gangbusters. He's super awesome.

3) Washington DC Brunchers (15-6), 291.2 (LR=1)(Basa) - Basa took a break and now is back like 2nd 3peat Jordan. Awesome guy.

4) Gonzo's Ghoulies (14-7), 284.7 (LR=11)(cg00nz) - Rookie is loving this game and is playing to win. Rookies R awesome.

5) Tribeca HiBrows (14-7), 275.2 (LR=4)(Ern) - Ern has 3 rings. Still a top team. Champ is awesome.

6) Oakland Cardpullers (12-9), 277.7 (LR=9)(Mr. Hood) - Hood is mounting a run. West coast teams are awesome.

7) Englewood GunViolence (12-9), 273.9 (LR=6)(DVS) - DVS has been quiet lately but his eagerness and trash talk is pretty decent. Chi-town awesome.

8) Northeast DC Trade Guerillas (12-9), 262.9 (LR=7)(Magilla) - Continual optimism must keep Magilla competitive. I mean 262 with 12 wins? Hope is awesome.

9) Stanley Forms a Wall (10-11), 266.4 (LR=13)(Boogs) - Where the hell is boogs? MIAwesome

10) Chino Hills Big Ballers (7-14), 274.9 (LR=8)(Ryan) - Avg is higher than all but 2 teams in the Black conference. Too bad he's in the Walton. Tough division awesome.

11) Ozarks GOBs (9-12), 258.8 (LR=10)(Ceej) - Ceej is just a ray of sunshine. Detroit Awesome.

12) Chi.ESL Markrakanens (9-12), 273.1 (LR=5)(Commish) - Injuries, injuries, injuries. Longest L streak in the league...and counting. *Cries into keyboard*...nothing is awesome.

13) Waiters Isle Rappity Raps (7-14), 233.5 (LR=12)(DJR) - Rookie beating 3 vets so far. "At least I'm not down there vvv" awesome.

14) L.A. Oatmeal Faces (7-14), 230.4 (LR=14)(RBO) - "My fav college team has a lot of great pro fantasy players" awesome.

15) Coney Island Bad Boys VIII (5-16), 244.7 (LR=15)(Deputy Commish) - PG's have allowed for competitive scores. Turning it around is awesome.

16) Restown Smerf City Slamz (5-16), 222.1 (LR=16)(Smerf) - few more weeks and restown might make the bottom of the playoff race interesting. Awellsome hope is not lost!

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That's why my record is that decent while my average is weaker than I'd like.

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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

3 straight 300s and i'll be happy to leave 1-2 smh

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

Let's just try to send out a game recap email on game 24, that says basically nothing.

Love the speed at which they are advancing in their development.

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Keeping an eye on my raggedy team...

Makes up for DSJ starting slow. Looking forward to the Oak show.

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you are Shawn have him on your roster.

But yeah, Dunn's been playing well. I'm starting to get nervous about our tank. We need that #1 spot.

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Looking forward to the Oak
>show.

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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

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Magilla has Magilla running his team.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

https://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/groats.jpg

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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

https://media.giphy.com/media/sLeSpK669yn9S/giphy.gif

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That roster trash.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

how's that working out for you?

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They were both injured around the same time and came back together...the hell are you talking about?

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

Oh wait. You don’t have any chips either.

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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

magilla is 5-0 in his last 5 with a 251 avg lol

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>magilla is 5-0 in his last 5 with a 251 avg lol

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oh YEAH. . . that was me last year.

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i changed that shit like a week and a half ago, and it takes effect tomorrow

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They really should let you adjust the lineup until the last game starts. Maybe lock the roster spot of those who've played already but yeah.

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just so long as my one guy thats a week ahead of everyone else doesn't hold up other lineup changes

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"though time has passed, im still the future" (c) black thought

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

im shooting for best team ever.



Still question marks with Embiid missing games.

Im worried a bit about Russy is OKC keeps sucking.

And Monroe misses every other game.


But the picks I made were good and the pickups ive made and held are doing alright too.

Oh. The Det pgs have fallen off recently

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>im shooting for best team ever.

And how is this even quantifiable?

Best record ever: Boogs 51-13 (inaugural season, LOL @ 247.6 avg being second best and what this team had). This team also lost in the finals.

Best playoff run ever: Your team in season 1 went 9-1 en route to the title. 43-21 record (3rd) 248.2 avg (best in the league)

Best record/Avg/Avg rank by year
2005 - Boogs (51-13, 247.6, 1st)
2006 - Commish (43-17, 260, 1st) (Won title 9-4 playoff record)
2007 - Theo (45-19, 277.5, 1st) (Won title 9-3 playoff record)
2008 - Theo (46-18, 275.6, 1st)
2009 - Ernie (43-21, 273.5, 3rd) (Won title 9-4 playoff record)
2010 - Commish (41-21, 284.6, 1st) (Won title 9-4 playoff record)
2011 - Theo (34-12, 275.5, 2nd) *lockout season
2012 - Frank (44-18, 294.7, 1st) (Won title 9-2 playoff record)
2013 - Theo (50-12, 286.3, 1st)
2014 - Ernie (43-19, 280.8, 3rd)
2015 - Commish (42-16, 302.5, 1st)
2016 - Ernie (39-19, 297.7, 1st) (Won title 9-2 playoff record)

*2006 - Offline season
*2011 - Ernie was the first and only GM to win a title without earning a 1st round bye.
*2012 - Frank had the biggest avg gap of any league leader ever that year. Besting the 2nd best avg by more than 19ppg
*2015 - I had the best avg by 12pts (2nd widest gap all-time), the highest avg in league history. SMH, a 1 game upset stopped me from topping Franks historical 2012 team. I would have swept the next 2 rounds.
*2016 - Ern had the second highest avg ever en route to his 3rd title

^^^Based on all of that, the best team ever was probably Frank's 2012 squad, followed a close second by my 2015 team and Erns 2016 team.

So you have to have a double digit ppg lead on the 2nd best avg and/or the best record of all time and the best avg of all time and win the title with a better or equal run of 9-1 while doing it.

AKA...not gonna happen.

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I dont really give a rats ass about record like I always say.

I want that solid 300 average and to beat your 300 season by as much as I can. Like you pointed out-topping it off with the ring is the ultimate.

I think there is something to be said about the evolution of the NBA game producing higher scores though. Theres definitely a old school vs modern argument to be made somewhere, so the more I can crush the best average ever by, the happier I'll feel about claiming best team ever built.

Of the factors listed below:
So you have to have a double digit ppg lead on the 2nd best avg and/or the best record of all time and the best avg of all time and win the title with a better or equal run of 9-1 while doing it.


I have the double digit lead now (albeit barely) despite record scores across the board.

Record will be tough because my random sit outs and the tough comp.

Title is a possibility

IMO record on the way to a title run is inconsequential.

Ill take a 9-8 record and a title to be just as dominant if my opponents are also dropping 300.

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I agree about record...that's probably the least important of the stats but the better the record, the better the case...aka 72-10 vs 73-9. Topping my avg in a more efficient nba, where the second team is putting up almost 300 ain't as impressive. Though where you are is a good spot. I think 10+ points of separation should be the minimum.

But also consider, Frank's team almost went wire to wire with the best record and avg. You've been toppled there a couple of times on both fronts. And I don't think you can 9-6 through the playoffs and claim best ever either. You gotta dominate there too. 9-2 should be the minimum.

Sounds like you want to have the best avg ever which is cool but that's like saying because someone averaged more than Jordan did one year that they are the GOAT. Gotta nail those other factors.

Frank's 2012 team was probably the most dominant thing we've ever seen. Gonna be hard to top that.

>Of the factors listed below:
>So you have to have a double digit ppg lead on the 2nd best
>avg and/or the best record of all time and the best avg of all
>time and win the title with a better or equal run of 9-1 while
>doing it.
>
>
>I have the double digit lead now (albeit barely) despite
>record scores across the board.
>
>Record will be tough because my random sit outs and the tough
>comp.
>
>Title is a possibility
>
>IMO record on the way to a title run is inconsequential.
>
>Ill take a 9-8 record and a title to be just as dominant if my
>opponents are also dropping 300.

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I agree that Franks team is the gold standard right now. Id argue your 2015 AVG isnt that skewed. 2015 was more new school than old school. Franks' 2012 avg is definitely handicapped---that was still old NBA.

Again I dont see dominating playoffs a criteria if you win it all. Id have to look through scores from playoffs, but winning in WS is more of a mix of what your team does + what the other team does. If you fly through the playoffs and your opp avg is low, Id be more impressed going 9-8 if youre opponent avg is 310 but youre dropping 320.


Of course this is all fanyasy hypothetical criteria were arguing over--so there's that.

I think another thing to look at would be players.


How many players you had in top 10, 20, 50 in FPPG or FPPM


>I agree about record...that's probably the least important of
>the stats but the better the record, the better the case...aka
>72-10 vs 73-9. Topping my avg in a more efficient nba, where
>the second team is putting up almost 300 ain't as impressive.
>Though where you are is a good spot. I think 10+ points of
>separation should be the minimum.
>
>But also consider, Frank's team almost went wire to wire with
>the best record and avg. You've been toppled there a couple
>of times on both fronts. And I don't think you can 9-6
>through the playoffs and claim best ever either. You gotta
>dominate there too. 9-2 should be the minimum.
>
>Sounds like you want to have the best avg ever which is cool
>but that's like saying because someone averaged more than
>Jordan did one year that they are the GOAT. Gotta nail those
>other factors.
>
>Frank's 2012 team was probably the most dominant thing we've
>ever seen. Gonna be hard to top that.
>
>>Of the factors listed below:
>>So you have to have a double digit ppg lead on the 2nd best
>>avg and/or the best record of all time and the best avg of
>all
>>time and win the title with a better or equal run of 9-1
>while
>>doing it.
>>
>>
>>I have the double digit lead now (albeit barely) despite
>>record scores across the board.
>>
>>Record will be tough because my random sit outs and the
>tough
>>comp.
>>
>>Title is a possibility
>>
>>IMO record on the way to a title run is inconsequential.
>>
>>Ill take a 9-8 record and a title to be just as dominant if
>my
>>opponents are also dropping 300.
>

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https://youtu.be/XrKaHjz7VhA

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

>https://youtu.be/XrKaHjz7VhA


Not bad rook, but youre still + 10 ppg back.

It wouldnt be this close if your gotdamn Detroit guards didnt fall off the ciff after that fucking RInger article.

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And if Stanley moves to the bench that means even less Ish with the ball in his hands

But i mean everybody except Drum was crap so itll turn

I need these Draygoon DNPs to stop

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at the same time, the early injuries allowed me to hawk the waiver wire and to volleyball. I feel like i have top 5 team right today tho.

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big dud coming to body my average

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mark.

Interesting through 29 games.

I'll do a new rankings once we get there.

And 2018 will start off tough for my squad. Got Gonzo, Shawn and Cenario all to start that week. SMH

3 hottest teams in the L.

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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

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"though time has passed, im still the future" (c) black thought

instead it was a clunker brushing up against my season low

shits so bad with my DNPs right now i had to activate gary harris

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"though time has passed, im still the future" (c) black thought

This season fucking sucks.

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"Guys: im out this year
I dont know how much I can fully commit but ill still be around and happy to do the season UNBIASED previews since im not playong and maybe some weekly write up rankings"

^^^you on 9/24

-Active in rankings posts (10 responses in this post)
-Best record in the league
-Highest avg
-5th most active GM this week
-7th most active this year
-4th (tied) most free agent moves (45)
-Lots of lineup changes and FA hawking


Soooooooooo...why haven't you paid yet?

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>"Guys: im out this year
>I dont know how much I can fully commit but ill still be
>around and happy to do the season UNBIASED previews since im
>not playong and maybe some weekly write up rankings"
>
>^^^you on 9/24
>
>-Active in rankings posts (10 responses in this post)
>-Best record in the league
>-Highest avg
>-5th most active GM this week
>-7th most active this year
>-4th (tied) most free agent moves (45)
>-Lots of lineup changes and FA hawking
>
>
>Soooooooooo...why haven't you paid yet?

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What you should do is open up shares of my team and have people pay my fee towards a chance at the pot.


It should be inflated though since im a frontrunner to win it halfway into the season. letting someone pay a straight fee wouldnt be fair

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Today.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

If it's a financial thing then fine, I won't press further and you understand if you win (good chance you might) that you won't get a cent from the pool.

I get that $60-$85 dollars can be huge for someone going through it. That's why we span the payment until seasons end (6 mos basically) as that allows for people to try to turn things around personally and then be able to contribute if possible.

But this: "and wont pay on principle"

...is garbage. LABeat, who won the year before, sucked all last season, checked out and missed the playoffs but came through at the end of the year, paid the full penalty fee of $85 and gave a little extra "on principle" for holding a spot without much activity. To me, that's what someone should do on principle. Could have been very easy for him to skate on the fee since his team sucked (FYI Smerf, I'm getting nervous lol) but he manned up.

I know you didn't want to play but you jumped in begrudgingly (appreciated), seem to have found the time to invest in the season and it's paying off. Seems right to just settle up and give yourself a real shot at your second ring and first paying one. No one here will be mad you paid after you saw how your team performed. We don't have rules against it and it's no guarantee anyone will win.

So in summary...if you got it...spend it. If you don't, no worries.

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yikes

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

lol only win if no money is on the line.

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lol i was gonna say another added benefit is I dont argue with you this year...but here goes.


When I say principle--i mean my own principles. As a reformed gambler, i dont believe its even fair for me to pay into the pot now with a big "lead". I shouldve had to do this at the beginning. Its like betting into a game when a team has a 15 point lead at halftime and not having to pay anymore on top.



I completely understand what you are saying. I wasnt going to play this year and I thought I made the reason pretty clear. It's not the time commitment and I can pay today without any problems, its not a financial thing, but its a move for me away from gambling, period.
Some of you may not understand this,since im decently involved, but the deeper I go into paying and playing--the more the lines between fantasy and gambling are blurred. Think of an alcoholic having a wine cooler or something similar. Truth be told what im doing this year is probably beyond what I should be doing anyways.



And yes, I fully understand and don t expect a cent from the pool if I do not pay.



>If it's a financial thing then fine, I won't press further
>and you understand if you win (good chance you might) that you
>won't get a cent from the pool.
>
>I get that $60-$85 dollars can be huge for someone going
>through it. That's why we span the payment until seasons end
>(6 mos basically) as that allows for people to try to turn
>things around personally and then be able to contribute if
>possible.
>
>But this: "and wont pay on principle"
>
>...is garbage. LABeat, who won the year before, sucked all
>last season, checked out and missed the playoffs but came
>through at the end of the year, paid the full penalty fee of
>$85 and gave a little extra "on principle" for holding a spot
>without much activity. To me, that's what someone should do
>on principle. Could have been very easy for him to skate on
>the fee since his team sucked (FYI Smerf, I'm getting nervous
>lol) but he manned up.
>
>I know you didn't want to play but you jumped in begrudgingly
>(appreciated), seem to have found the time to invest in the
>season and it's paying off. Seems right to just settle up and
>give yourself a real shot at your second ring and first paying
>one. No one here will be mad you paid after you saw how your
>team performed. We don't have rules against it and it's no
>guarantee anyone will win.
>
>So in summary...if you got it...spend it. If you don't, no
>worries.

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Maybe Ill pay at the end of the season and donate the pot to a charity...ill reflect on that over the next 3-4 months

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"though time has passed, im still the future" (c) black thought

>Maybe Ill pay at the end of the season and donate the pot to
>a charity...ill reflect on that over the next 3-4 months

I respect the reasoning behind not wanting to play and appreciate helping us out by getting in. But it's also not fair for you to maybe pay later, (or even now) as you mentioned.

Your team should just exist and compete, but not be eligible for payout. Any money you potentially "win" would just be paid to the spot below, whether its conference or playoffs etc.

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>Your team should just exist and compete, but not be eligible
>for payout. Any money you potentially "win" would just be paid
>to the spot below, whether its conference or playoffs etc.
>

This part is up to you guys or the commish

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of the season if he wins. Silly right? i agree..i was against the whole late payment system.

I know this isn't what shawn is doing but nothing prevents anyone from being a doofus and waiting til the end to pay and claim the prize, as long as we have an option to pay at the end with the penalty.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

We'll argue if I damn well please! Lol

Seriously though, no worries I get exercising a vice so play for fun and excuse my joke earlier (didn't know thus was the real reason).

We'll figure out pay out should your team win.

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but i will pay by the end of the month.

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Just be glad I didn't accept the one before this one.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

anyway, glad you ain't accept, too. all i wanted was booker, but you acted like i was tryna trick you. SMH.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

I asked for some time as I was away from a computer and wanted some time to look at it. You're editorializing the rest of this. Why, I'm not sure. But stop lying.

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so, how is it my fault?

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

AGain not sure why you’re making shit up. You got all weird about the trade when I asked for time as if that was some time sensitive bullshit.

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looks like we agree on what happened. but, i don't think we'l ever agree that you needing more time to consider a trade you'd clearly win *could* be taken as *annoying* by the person offering said trade.

wasn't just you. like i said, a few people been acting stupid and i ain't offering no more trades for a while because of it.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

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