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Vex_id
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"I'm mining crypto current shares on Lonzo Ball"
Mon Nov-20-17 09:59 AM by Vex_id

  

          

Yea I see everyone clowning him - but I also see a future PG stalwart in LA with the physical tools and gifts to be a multi-AllStar. Once he grows into his frame, I think he'll be a triple-double waiting to happen every night.

It's rare to see a top prospect who is so intent on perfecting non-scoring processes of the game. He'll only get better @ defense-to-offense transitions after defensive boarding and pushing ahead - and he'll start to process up-temp transition faster and faster until he goes Super Saiyan Quantum. He'll never be a high volume scorer - but there's enough of those to go around - his skillset is complementary to any team trying to play up-tempo.

Also - people say he's aloof and doesn't show enough urgency in interviews and his posture - but I like that he doesn't get too high or low after good/bad performances. He's under a fiery microscope - but his resolve and ahead of his time maturity has created a situation where players react to him more like John Wall did than Pat Bev - with a neutrality and reserve respect.

Plus - best bars of any NBA player maybe ever. Fight me.

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he's a number two pick with a bunch of hype.
Nov 20th 2017
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super saiyan quantum lmao
Nov 20th 2017
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Lol
Nov 20th 2017
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      EASILY FIXED I SAID
Oct 26th 2018
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           you were right.
Oct 26th 2018
93
Everyone clowning him except for those who know or play the game
Nov 20th 2017
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yes
Nov 20th 2017
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*ugh*
Nov 20th 2017
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it's maddening.
Nov 20th 2017
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Fans are too impatient anyways
Nov 20th 2017
8
so here's my lonzo take...
Nov 20th 2017
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I agree with all of this but...
Nov 21st 2017
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true.
Nov 21st 2017
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      Yup and I don't think he's a horrible 'shooter' per say
Nov 21st 2017
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      He isn't above scrutiny...
Nov 21st 2017
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Not an athlete? He's fast as fuck and got bounce.. I disagree
Nov 22nd 2017
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      not explosive. or strong.
Nov 22nd 2017
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Nah
Nov 21st 2017
10
Rubio was a year older and had being playing professionally in Europe...
Nov 21st 2017
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      Bullshit
Nov 22nd 2017
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           lol @ Dancin' all in his videos hahahaha
Nov 22nd 2017
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i haven't watched LA, but the debate and the #s + the attitude
Nov 21st 2017
11
is this a compliment?
Nov 21st 2017
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Yes and no
Nov 21st 2017
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I wouldn’t be mad honestly.
Nov 22nd 2017
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Stop. He’s nothing like Rondo. Niggas kill me.
Nov 22nd 2017
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For sure....He's NOTHING like Rondo
Nov 22nd 2017
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And now, here you come. Sensitive.
Nov 22nd 2017
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      I thought we were agreeing.
Nov 22nd 2017
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It begins
Nov 22nd 2017
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      Numbers and attitude are very different, thus the debate is as well
Nov 22nd 2017
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      damn
Nov 22nd 2017
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      No, they aren't.
Nov 22nd 2017
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           the debate is the same
Nov 22nd 2017
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                Oh look. He hit 5 threes. Just like Rondo!
Dec 23rd 2017
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                     and his 3 pt % is still <.300
Dec 23rd 2017
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                          Strokes been pure last month.
Dec 23rd 2017
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                               your reading comprehension is worse than Lonzo's FG%
Dec 23rd 2017
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This is really lazy broad brush strokes- cmon
Nov 22nd 2017
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      good addition, thanks for replying
Nov 22nd 2017
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I'm very sure he's going to develop beyond the hype.
Nov 21st 2017
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Kobe was backing up an all star on a 56 win team
Nov 21st 2017
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Only 1 year he was done w/ the Bruins - no slaving for free
Nov 22nd 2017
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This agenda will pay out in Ws during the rookie year
Nov 22nd 2017
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terrible
Dec 04th 2017
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Patiently waiting to hear the latest excuse from him fans.
Dec 04th 2017
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Bitcoin & Litecoin fell a bit - but back on the surge
Dec 22nd 2017
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He starting to bring the heat but he too loyal to the idea of team
Dec 22nd 2017
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43% and 38% from 3 in December
Dec 23rd 2017
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What are these other #’s? Only points matter
Dec 23rd 2017
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#DatLeBronZo
Jul 01st 2018
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Kang on Zo: "I believe he's destined for greatness"
Sep 26th 2018
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Add onto that, every opposing player asked about Lonzo...
Sep 26th 2018
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      people being out on lonzo is the weirdest thing
Sep 26th 2018
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           I disagree. If his shooting remains where it’s at, he’ll be replaced...
Sep 26th 2018
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           I don't think it's possible for him to remain as bad around the rim
Sep 26th 2018
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                I agree. Naturally he’ll improve with his shot.
Sep 26th 2018
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                     ^^^ yeah, I don't think the criticism is so much about his %s
Sep 26th 2018
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                          I don't see how this is an issue.
Sep 27th 2018
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                               You don't go 2nd overall to be the 4th or 5th option
Sep 27th 2018
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                                    Lakers knew that about him and still drafted him 2nd.
Sep 28th 2018
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           I always maintained this
Sep 26th 2018
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                SMH...yeah, he should just do that.
Sep 26th 2018
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                     That's all. Then... poof... All-NBA.
Sep 26th 2018
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anyone betting against this kid is a fool...
Sep 26th 2018
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You talking about Daniel Day Lewis in "My Left Foot"?
Sep 26th 2018
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lmao!
Sep 27th 2018
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      right? cyren deserved that.
Sep 27th 2018
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           LOL...he my dude, too...but he laid it on kinda thick with that one
Sep 27th 2018
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                “I’ll do it myself” - Chappelle
Sep 27th 2018
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                     RE: “I’ll do it myself” - Chappelle
Sep 27th 2018
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Be a fan, but come on, "Lonzo Ball the underdog" is a BS narrative
Sep 27th 2018
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saying he's defied the odds isn't exactly claiming he's an underdog?
Sep 27th 2018
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C’mon fam. “he’s defied the odds his entire life”?
Sep 27th 2018
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that seems like an extreme interpretation of the post.
Sep 27th 2018
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      Not really. We were fine at “he defied the odds his entire life”
Sep 27th 2018
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           Lonzo had it rough man. Had to share a bathroom with two siblings.
Sep 28th 2018
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You're reaching for a dumb argument based on a dumber statement
Sep 28th 2018
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where am I reaching?
Sep 28th 2018
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stop making sense.
Sep 28th 2018
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      Where are you getting your odds from, a scratcher?
Sep 28th 2018
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           where did you get underdog from?
Sep 28th 2018
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reading is fundamental...
Sep 28th 2018
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      "he's done nothing but defy the odds his entire life"
Sep 28th 2018
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           I never said his odds were greater than most...
Sep 28th 2018
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LOL...can't believe y'all did the most like this...
Sep 28th 2018
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      It’s OKP... anything is possible (c) KG
Sep 28th 2018
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It’s gon be a long year of basic hit ahead passes & crooked J highligh...
Sep 27th 2018
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Lonzo makes people irrationally mad.
Sep 28th 2018
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there will literally be no mad people
Sep 28th 2018
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      k.
Sep 28th 2018
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you see me rocking ZO2, Super Saiyan ZO2, LeBronZO2
Oct 08th 2018
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that step back 3 in crunch time went Super Saiyan Quantum.
Oct 26th 2018
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more folks been wrong about this young man
Oct 26th 2018
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The compelling, irrefutable case for Lonzo Ball to remain a Lakers start...
Oct 27th 2018
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i see no reason to change the current line up...
Oct 27th 2018
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Pete Zayas' (Laker Film Room) breakdown on Lonzo
Oct 27th 2018
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Cenario
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1. "he's a number two pick with a bunch of hype."
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You are either against him or with everyone else.

The expectation is for him to be great.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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2. "super saiyan quantum lmao"
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at this rate w/ how the show is just cranking out transformations i wouldn't be surprised if that ends up being a thing.

RE Zo tho: he'll gonna be good. real good. i remain unworried about his shooting as that's easily fixed.

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3. "Lol"
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> that's easily fixed.

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92. "EASILY FIXED I SAID"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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93. "you were right."
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4. "Everyone clowning him except for those who know or play the game "
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No need for crypto shares - the general viewing public doesn’t understand much outside of scoring then you factor in the childish emotional reactions of disliking Lonzo bc of his dad...it’s pretty much case in point for how basketball ignorant and emotionally base many folks are.

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5. "yes"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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6. "*ugh* "
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7. "it's maddening. "
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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8. "Fans are too impatient anyways"
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People really expect Lonzo to put up prime Bron numbers as a rookie. Sorry folks but the young man has to learn how to play the game at an elite level. That happens through failure, practice, and repetition. He plays a selfless game for the most part to the point that people have to encourage him to be aggressive. Give him time and do not let his recent triple double coerce you into demanding he do it every night. Remember the NBA isn't NBA 2K's Myplayer mode on rookie.

  

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9. "so here's my lonzo take..."
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great playmaker. great vision. uncanny talent for passing. will prolly be top 3-5 in apg for as long as he wants to be.

good defender. good rebounder for his position.

he isn't a great athlete, or a great dribbler. so i don't think he's ever going to be able to consistently create separation from his defender, or turn the corner on the man in front of him.

when you look at players historically with his build and handle, in order for them to develop into all star / all league types, they typically need to be great shooters.

not good. GREAT.

so i don't see him being that. i honestly see a slightly better rubio type. which is fine. i'm prolly the biggest rubio fan here. so if lonzo is that, surrounded with shooters / scorers, that's great. and that team will be very good.


but i don't think they drafted him #2 overall to be rubio 2.0. and i don't see this transcendent superstar that the league and media are desperately trying to market and shove down our throats. and that's honestly prolly what annoys ppl.

if he's just a solid but unspectacular point guard... essentially rubio on a glamour franchise in a glamour market with a boxing promoter dad, is all this hype REALLY worth it? and are all these magic/kobe/kidd comps really doing him any favors?

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12. "I agree with all of this but..."
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I just can't discount development.

I never saw Kidd being a good 3pt shooter. It happened.
I didn't think Kevin Martin would have a long NBA career with that shooting form. It happened.
I didn't think Steph Curry was a PG nor would he ever have the type of handle that facilitated it in the NBA. It happened.
I thought Hassan Whiteside was a complete bum. Now he's a fringe allstar.

These guys eventually develop if they're committed. And I see Lonzo's situation as very fluid for him to develop. He's good at everything but shooting. He can work on his handle and shot. Plus he'll get stronger so that'll help as well. Magic is in his corner. His dad's ego won't let him not push Lonzo to be better. And his game is built around making his teammates better in a 'flashy' LA sort of way.

We know the internet likes 'hot takes' and OKP likes agendas but Lonzo is going to be fine IMO and probably one of the top PG's in about 2-3 seasons. 3rd or 4th year is when I expect everything to hit but you'll see it coming more and more by yr 2.

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13. "true."
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i'm just pointing out that there are legitimate criticisms of his actual game.

when a guy's shooting 23% from 3, 37% from 2, and 46% from the line, he isn't above scrutiny. it isn't all just irrational anti-laker or anti-lavar bias.

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16. "Yup and I don't think he's a horrible 'shooter' per say"
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I just think he doesn't have confidence in his shot and I think he has to tweak a few mechanics.

I know overhauling a form is tough and probably not the 'best' thing to do if you've been shooting one way your whole life but I think he definitely has to refine it a bit to be effective as a pro.

He'll get there.

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17. "He isn't above scrutiny..."
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but going into the draft the team knew he isn't built to be a primary scorer. His skillset is suited as the 3rd/4th best scorer on the team (just like at UCLA).

Granted, his shooting is worse than anyone imagined, but relying on his scoring isn't something the team expected in the first place. That's probably why Laker/Lonzo fans are generally optimistic about his play so far and aren't too worried about the shooting (yet).

Edit: His activity on defense (both on/off ball) has also been a pleasant surprise, especially since that was one of the knocks on him at the draft. Lonzo's currently tied (with Lebron) for 15th in the league in combined steals/blocks.

  

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21. "Not an athlete? He's fast as fuck and got bounce.. I disagree "
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He's definitely not a shooter and never will be. You can't just fix that shit like *snap* like others have alluded to

I agree w the rest of your assessment esp the handle. He only goes one direction...

He'll be in the league a long time tho bc of his overall game


>great playmaker. great vision. uncanny talent for passing.
>will prolly be top 3-5 in apg for as long as he wants to be.
>
>good defender. good rebounder for his position.
>
>he isn't a great athlete, or a great dribbler. so i don't
>think he's ever going to be able to consistently create
>separation from his defender, or turn the corner on the man in
>front of him.
>
>when you look at players historically with his build and
>handle, in order for them to develop into all star / all
>league types, they typically need to be great shooters.
>
>not good. GREAT.
>
>so i don't see him being that. i honestly see a slightly
>better rubio type. which is fine. i'm prolly the biggest rubio
>fan here. so if lonzo is that, surrounded with shooters /
>scorers, that's great. and that team will be very good.
>
>
>but i don't think they drafted him #2 overall to be rubio 2.0.
>and i don't see this transcendent superstar that the league
>and media are desperately trying to market and shove down our
>throats. and that's honestly prolly what annoys ppl.
>
>if he's just a solid but unspectacular point guard...
>essentially rubio on a glamour franchise in a glamour market
>with a boxing promoter dad, is all this hype REALLY worth it?
>and are all these magic/kobe/kidd comps really doing him any
>favors?

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28. "not explosive. or strong."
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baseline to baseline speed? sure. he'll be great in transition.

but getting past guys in the halfcourt? iono.

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10. "Nah"
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https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Lonzo+Ball&player_id1_select=Lonzo+Ball&y1=2018&player_id1=balllo01&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Ricky+Rubio&player_id2_select=Ricky+Rubio&y2=2012&player_id2=rubiori01&idx=players

This Rubio rookie season vs Lonzo #s so far.

Spoiler: Rubio numbers are better across the board.

And you fucking shitted on Rubio.

Same 'tensity yall!

  

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15. "Rubio was a year older and had being playing professionally in Europe..."
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since he was like 14

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25. "Bullshit"
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so he gonna shoot above 30% next year? boo fucking hoo... and if we gonna talk about irrelevant shit, at least Rubio's father wasn't "dancing in all his videos".

nah... he's the same kind of player as Ricky was (only worse), but now niggas wanna talk about advanced stats, +/- and "intangibles"?

Guinness ain't die for that shit.

  

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11. "i haven't watched LA, but the debate and the #s + the attitude"
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scream that he's this generation's rondo.


except worse at connect four.

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14. "is this a compliment?"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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20. "Yes and no"
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Will be overly praised by fans and ripped by haters and actually just be a fun and flawed player you can win with, but can't be a contending team's best player (and debatable second best)

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22. "I wouldn’t be mad honestly. "
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James. Ingram. Ball. Kuzma. Stephenson. Rondo. Caldwell-Pope. Zubac. McGee. Beasely. TBD...

  

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23. "Stop. He’s nothing like Rondo. Niggas kill me."
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24. "For sure....He's NOTHING like Rondo"
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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26. "And now, here you come. Sensitive. "
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27. "I thought we were agreeing. "
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29. "It begins"
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I didn't compare playing styles. Numbers, attitude, and debate are pretty damn similar.

At least rondo knew he couldn't shoot

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30. "Numbers and attitude are very different, thus the debate is as well"
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31. "damn"
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>At least rondo knew he couldn't shoot

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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33. "No, they aren't. "
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>Numbers, attitude, and
>debate are pretty damn similar.

  

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34. "the debate is the same"
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defenders think he has the right attitude, haters think he's a problem.

both are high volume assists but people are already pulling a rondo-hater and arguing his assist numbers are inflated. both have the same huge numbers flaw--they can't shoot. it isn't that they're compiling similar rookie numbers (different situation, for one but rookie per 36 numbers are actually damn near identical), but same basic tendencies.

like i said, i haven't watched LA enough to take a strong stance. All I'm noticing is that their pass-first, no-shooting ability and unique personality/cockiness is creating the same divide rondo did, just different people on different sides.

From afar--he's looking a lot like generation's rondo. Some will think he was a key player for a team, others will call him overrated and everyone will fight over it for years.

and y'all are already playing your part. the intense defense in response to a relatively harmless statement. yep. Rondo.

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45. "Oh look. He hit 5 threes. Just like Rondo!"
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46. "and his 3 pt % is still <.300"
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and his A:T ratio was 1:1. And the team took that L. when rondo hit 5 3s, his team won.

so no, not just like rondo. worse.

don't be a bad hit-dogg. he's polarizing like rondo. people are being dumb about him, just like w/ rondo. you're just proving the point here.

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47. "Strokes been pure last month. "
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>and his A:T ratio was 1:1.

His ratio's been great all season.

>And the team took that L. when

Oh no! They lost to the Ws!

He's a way more fluid and natural scorer than Rondo ever was and this post is still stupid.

  

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48. "your reading comprehension is worse than Lonzo's FG%"
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"I didn't compare playing styles. Numbers, attitude, and debate are pretty damn similar."

numbers (yep). attitude (yep). debate (YEP).

you keep pointing out their playing style is different like I claimed something i didn't.

that type of purposeful misreading is quintessential rondo debate tactics on here.

edit: while we're talking his shooting in december--10/20 FT looking real rondo-esque

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35. "This is really lazy broad brush strokes- cmon"
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---------------------------------
<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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36. "good addition, thanks for replying"
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y'all read into things what you want, really kinda proving the rondo comp is kinda perfect.

I'll just quote from the original post "aloof" (rondo). "so intent on perfecting non-scoring processes" (rondo). "never be a high volume scorer" (rondo). "resolve and ahead of his time maturity" (rondo). " reserve respect" (rondo).

oh wait, those were about Ball. my bad.

my point, in caps:
SPECIFICS MAY BE DIFFERENT, BUT Y'ALL ARE ALL GONNA FIGHT ABOUT HIM THE SAME WAY WE ALL FOUGHT ABOUT RONDO 10 YEARS AGO.

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18. "I'm very sure he's going to develop beyond the hype."
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His mind is in the right place.
We are actively see him make adjustments night to night.
He is finding what works for him and taking coaching at the same time.

Kobe was a different kind of player but if you look at his rookie stats,
they were trash by today's standards.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

  

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19. "Kobe was backing up an all star on a 56 win team"
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He didn’t get the minutes to put up impressive looking stats, but he was productive in the minutes he did get. He was also only 18 during his rookie year.

On a bad team that would’ve played him a lot, he would’ve had no problem putting up numbers.

  

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37. "Only 1 year he was done w/ the Bruins - no slaving for free"
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he was offered a movement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFYFJbh42CE

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38. "This agenda will pay out in Ws during the rookie year"
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potential
development
ceiling
...blah blah blah...

nobody wants to hear that crap

you can up posts when it does happen

the payout this year is Ws

don't look now, but the LAL are in the 8th seed

of the mighty mighty Western Conference

if the LAL make the playoffs this year

IDC if Zo doesn't make another shot the entire season

that's a W.

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39. "terrible"
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don't compare him to Rubio, he's Evan Turner.

  

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40. "Patiently waiting to hear the latest excuse from him fans."
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<---
Fuck a sig, my presence is enough.

  

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41. "Bitcoin & Litecoin fell a bit - but back on the surge"
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Super Saiyan Zo stock looking real pristine.

I'm holding for long term gains.

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42. "He starting to bring the heat but he too loyal to the idea of team"
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He doesn’t know the balance yet.

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43. "43% and 38% from 3 in December "
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Along with like 12.5 points, 6.5 assists, 6.7 rebounds, 1.4 blocks and 1.2 steals.

I’d say he’s okay.

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'18-'19 LA Lakers

James. Ingram. Ball. Kuzma. Stephenson. Rondo. Caldwell-Pope. Zubac. McGee. Beasely. TBD...

  

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44. "What are these other #’s? Only points matter "
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---------------------------------
<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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49. "#DatLeBronZo "
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Level'd up on Super Saiyan.

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50. "Kang on Zo: "I believe he's destined for greatness""
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkIkEC5Q5rU

Not sure the boards are ready for Super Saiyan LeBronZo 'genda extraordinaires.

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51. "Add onto that, every opposing player asked about Lonzo..."
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Has said this dude is going to be an extremely good player and understands how to play the game.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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52. "people being out on lonzo is the weirdest thing"
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like..if his shooting remained roughly where it is then he'd still be a starting guard in the NBA, for good.


if it improves a *reasonably projected amount* and he becomes league-average at finishing around the rim...then he'll be everything the lakers hoped for.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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53. "I disagree. If his shooting remains where it’s at, he’ll be replaced..."
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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55. "I don't think it's possible for him to remain as bad around the rim"
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as he was last season, and with that I think he has enough.

we'll see

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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56. "I agree. Naturally he’ll improve with his shot."
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But he will also learn how to pick his spots, get stronger and finish around the rim, and get easier looks from playing with better players.

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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57. "^^^ yeah, I don't think the criticism is so much about his %s"
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as it is that he defers first and doesn't look for his shot

I haven't seen him display the ability to get his own shot when needed

we can goof on his form and turrabull 3pt %

but, IMO, the bigger issue is that he never thinks score first.

He's really good in every other area

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67. "I don't see how this is an issue."
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> but, IMO, the bigger issue is that he never thinks score first.

This is RARE in the league, and was a known characteristic going back to UCLA.

Because of that, no one high on Lonzo thinks he can carry a team with his scoring. But surround him with scorers? Oh fuck, it's on.

He's happy as a clam moving the ball around and being the fourth or fifth-best scorer on the team (but with the ability to be two or three on any given night, *as needed*).

How many guys fit that profile in the league? Rondo and... ?

With the right team around him, that unselfishness is a positive, not a negative. You don't evaluate players in a vacuum.

  

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70. "You don't go 2nd overall to be the 4th or 5th option "
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Also, it's rare that such a high draft pick goes to a ready made team of elite players that a #2 can defer to...

He needs to be more aggressive on offense and force Ds to respect that ability

Ds were playing under the arch on him, daring him to shoot...that can't continue.

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88. "Lakers knew that about him and still drafted him 2nd."
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What is with this myopic view? I 100% agree he needs to improve his shot but his offense at UCLA wasn't solely as a shooter... he was used primarily off-ball with a lot of cuts to the basket. Lakers tried to use him as the primary halfcourt ballhandler for a while, and he was fine, but nowhere near as comfortable. Guess what? Lakers just got two of the best halfcourt ballhandlers in the league.

So what is Lonzo good at right today? Pace, defense, rebounding and of course getting the ball where it needs to be. That's why he was picked 2nd. All the other dudes can score, but no one on the team can run the break better than Lonzo.

  

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54. "I always maintained this"
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Also, if he added 3 layups, possibly 2 midrange jumpshots per game in addition to what he did last season. ALL-NBA not first team but one of the others.

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58. "SMH...yeah, he should just do that. "
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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60. "That's all. Then... poof... All-NBA. "
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I wish more players would adopt this outside the box thinking.

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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59. "anyone betting against this kid is a fool..."
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..he's done nothing but defy the odds his entire life.




*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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61. "You talking about Daniel Day Lewis in "My Left Foot"?"
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Y'all niggaz sound nuts.

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62. "lmao!"
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65. "right? cyren deserved that. "
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____________________________________________________


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Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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66. "LOL...he my dude, too...but he laid it on kinda thick with that one"
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<<<< the Tate-over, ya breaks over

  

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68. "“I’ll do it myself” - Chappelle "
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69. "RE: “I’ll do it myself” - Chappelle "
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63. "Be a fan, but come on, "Lonzo Ball the underdog" is a BS narrative"
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71. "saying he's defied the odds isn't exactly claiming he's an underdog?"
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I think you can say the odds were against him ever fulfilling his dad's claim that he'd play for his lakers.


that's not an unreasonable statement. if you disagree with a different statement "lonzo ball is an underdog" that's fine, but...idk who said that?

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72. "C’mon fam. “he’s defied the odds his entire life”? "
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Was Lonzo a child soldier in the Congo & managed to make it to the NBA and start for the Lakers?

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73. "that seems like an extreme interpretation of the post."
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if y'all want to be mad, go off.

but recognize that you have to keep saying stuff that it doesn't say.

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74. "Not really. We were fine at “he defied the odds his entire life”"
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That’s enough.

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76. "Lonzo had it rough man. Had to share a bathroom with two siblings."
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Until he was 7 and they moved to a split level 4/5.5, but it was rough before that.

There were days when he didn't know when he'd get his next meal, 7:00 or 7:30, depending on if his mom had yoga that night.

In elementary school, he had to walk .2 miles, uphill, to and from the bus stop in every type of weather Orange County has.


At the age of 14, Lonzo experienced a 5.0 earthquake that put a small crack in the left corner of their driveway. Some say his jumper has never recovered.

At 16, on his way to an AAU tournament in the badlands of Malibu, his father's car suffered a flat tire on the 101 in the wilds of Tarzana. It took AAA a whole hour before they were rescued.

Yes, just like Drake, he started from the bottom and now he is here. The odds were surely stacked against Lonzo Ball, elite AAU player, NCAA blue chip and #2 draft pick. When will the world learn to stop doubting this man forged of unimaginable adversity?

  

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75. "You're reaching for a dumb argument based on a dumber statement"
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Pass.

  

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86. "where am I reaching?"
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77. "stop making sense. "
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*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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78. "Where are you getting your odds from, a scratcher? "
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80. "where did you get underdog from?"
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*skatin' the rings of saturn*


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79. "reading is fundamental..."
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..comprehension is crucial.

i never said he was an underdog. in fact, i don't think he's an underdog at all. for all accounts, he grew up in a 2 parent suburban household. Still, that doesn't mean he didn't face challenges. Poverty isn't the only form of adversity.

Lonzo ball has been living with a target on his back since high school. His blowhard of a father made sure that every ounce of pressure you could possibly bestow upon a kid (talented or not) was thrown at him early (and often) and he still managed to exceed and excel at an elite level.

some of y'all act like height and handles guarantee a spot on an nba roster. there are plenty of gifted athletes that wash out long before they ever come close to the kind of success Lonzo has. and he did that with a loudmouth father and a mother facing chemo.

how many children dream of playing in the nba. better yet, how many children claim they'll be starting PG for the Lakers and actually do it?








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82. ""he's done nothing but defy the odds his entire life""
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ENTIRE LIFE?


That is overly dramatic, to say the absolute least, all because he has an asshole hypeman for a father. I have nothing but sympathy for him and his brothers, personally. But he is and has been talented for a long time. If anything, he's proven the odds of how talent in the sport is nurtured, identified and anointed at a young age. Defying the odds would be him not getting drafted or drafted late and flopping out of the NBA on his rookie contract.

  

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84. "I never said his odds were greater than most..."
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..gifted or not, he still had to put in the work.

i simply said it was foolish to bet against someone that has yet to back down from a challenge and continues to succeed.




*skatin' the rings of saturn*


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81. "LOL...can't believe y'all did the most like this..."
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over some innocuous funnin'. Recipes misplaced.

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83. "It’s OKP... anything is possible (c) KG"
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Seriously though. I rarely get surprised on here.

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64. "It’s gon be a long year of basic hit ahead passes & crooked J highligh..."
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Can’t wait.

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85. "Lonzo makes people irrationally mad."
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boards gonna explode when LeBrondzo starts clicking.

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87. "there will literally be no mad people"
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that are specifically mad that LeBron and Lonzo are playing well together. literally no one

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89. "k. "
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90. "you see me rocking ZO2, Super Saiyan ZO2, LeBronZO2"
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91. "that step back 3 in crunch time went Super Saiyan Quantum. "
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Zo is the starting PG for this squad. Rondo a tremendous back-up.
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94. "more folks been wrong about this young man"
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than almost anyone whose recently come into the league..

what you're seeing right now is everything we saw from him at UCLA...

and defensively he's far beyond what folks were saying he would be..particularly with his help defense..

  

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95. "The compelling, irrefutable case for Lonzo Ball to remain a Lakers start..."
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The compelling, irrefutable case for Lonzo Ball to remain a Lakers starter


By Bill Oram Oct 26, 2018

SAN​ ANTONIO​ — When​ Lakers​ guard Rajon Rondo returns​ from his three-game​ suspension on Saturday​ against the Spurs, coach Luke​ Walton​​ will have a decision to make. He can either revert to his opening night lineup, with Rondo starting at point guard and Lonzo Ball coming off the bench, or he can accelerate a decision that most assumed would eventually come and name Ball the permanent starter.

The case Ball made for himself in those three games was compelling and, perhaps, irrefutable.

With Rondo in the penalty box, Ball averaged 12.7 points, 6.7 assists and 6.3 rebounds per game, while shooting 40 percent from 3-point range. The Lakers won two of three games. The new starting lineup, with Ball and Kyle Kuzma alongside LeBron James, Josh Hart and JaVale McGee, posted a beefy net rating of 11.6 while holding opposing teams to just 93.6 points per 100 possessions. The group that included Rondo, Brandon Ingram and Kentavious Caldwell-Pope posted a net rating of 1.6 in its two starts.

If you saw Thursday’s 121-114 win over Denver, you witnessed just how valuable Ball is to the Lakers when he is at his best, especially on defense. Pete Zayas of The Athletic comprehensively broke down his performance, which saw Ball finished with five steals after spending most of his night hounding Denver point guard Jamal Murray full-court.

Ball pressured Murray into a backcourt turnover in the second quarter that led to a Lonzo layup that brought the Lakers even with the Nuggets. Walton pointed to that play as swinging the momentum of the game.

“His instincts for the game when he’s aggressive and active,” Walton said, “he changes games.”

Later, Ball forced crunch-time mistakes by Nuggets star big men Paul Millsap and Nikola Jokic when he switched onto them in the post.

“He’s had some of the quickest hands that this league has,” LeBron James said. “A lot of people always try to discredit what he does offensively, but they never give him enough credit for what he does defensively.”

What else does James think of Ball now that they’ve won a couple games together?

“He’s a very gifted basketball player,” James said. “Very cerebral basketball player. I think when he’s playing aggressive basketball and thinking shot first (because) everything opens up for him.”


Declaring the worst parts of Ball’s game fixed just five games into the season would be premature, as would announcing that he is now mature enough to handle the attention he received last season. He will continue to make strides and suffer setbacks. But the difference between Ball’s first season and now has been dramatic. He is fully engaged on both ends of the court, he is physically up to challenges he tried to engage in last season and, frankly, looks like a worthy No. 2 pick.

Ball had forced his way onto the court before last week’s brawl with Houston. He played well against the Rockets, and when Walton put Rondo back on the floor for what figured to be the final 8:22, he left Ball on the floor.

Then all hell broke loose shortly thereafter and the NBA determined Rondo spit on Chris Paul to set off a fistfight that created an earlier-than-expected chance for Ball to start alongside James.

Ball said Thursday he recognized the door that had opened for him.

“Most definitely,” he said.”Now that they took the minutes restriction off, because they had no choice, helped me a lot to get back into the swing of things.”

It’s important to note that the momentum for Ball to remain the Lakers’ starting point guard has next to nothing to do with Rondo. Before going all Fountains of Bellagio in Paul’s kisser, the one-time Celtic had been exemplary. He scored 13 points in each of his two appearances while averaging 10.5 assists and knocking down two of his four 3-pointers. His chemistry with James was among the best things the Lakers had going for them in the narrow losses to Portland and Houston that opened the season.

In none of the Lakers’ preferred scenarios, however, was Rondo ever more than a capable placeholder, directing the offense while Ball came into form. It is the best case imaginable that Ball would take advantage of an unforeseen opportunity and make it impossible for Walton not to reward him with the job – upon earning it.

That was a critical step Ball missed as a rookie, when he was the starter from Day 1 by both design and default.

After the insatiable scrutiny Ball faced as a 19-year-old, starting 50 of the 52 games he played, the Lakers this time around created a situation in which the young point guard could exceed expectations. He underwent arthroscopic surgery on his left knee in July, and it was unclear how much he was able to work on his game in the summer.

It was really just a matter of fine tuning. Lest we forget, Ball averaged 10.2 points, 7.2 assists and 6.9 rebounds. That’s really good. But he was left off the All-Rookie first team, an indictment of his sporadic and overconfident 3-point shooting, as well as an acknowledgement of the 30 games he missed.

Getting James also helped alleviate some of the pressure that was once deposited solely on Ball’s shoulders. The hordes of media that used to camp out around his locker now orbit that of James.

In Year 2, a bulked-up Ball has been freed to play basketball. And with Rondo starting from the season’s opening tip, he was free to make mistakes.

To the Lakers’ delight, he rarely has.

Following the win over Denver, Walton was evasive on the subject of future starting lineups. Kuzma has been dynamic alongside James, and with Brandon Ingram’s impending return on Monday in Minnesota, his role may yet surface as a different debate.

Regarding point guard, however, Walton said he needed to watch the tape and talk to his coaches. Ball said it doesn’t matter.

“As long as we win games, that is all I care about,” Ball said. “Whoever starts is whoever starts. But we are all going to play. That is all that matters.”

Yet when it comes to Ball, there is always more to the story. Lonzo earning the starting job at some point this season was critical to the Lakers’ ability to snap a puzzle piece in place next to James for their planning beyond this season.

Earning that spot on Oct. 27? It would be damn impressive. And deserved.

  

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97. "i see no reason to change the current line up..."
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..we know how valuable Rondo can be as the floor general for the 2nd unit.

The only real concern here is how something like this could impact Ingram. As long as he recognizes it as an opportunity to improve (ie: Odom), the Lakers could be a problem.

The last time the Lakers had this "issue" was '09 & '10.


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96. "Pete Zayas' (Laker Film Room) breakdown on Lonzo"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVpTsi_S0Hg

  

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