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dula dibiasi
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"anyone read any good sports books lately?"


  

          

just threw the new shea serrano and the rapaport onto the kindle.

https://www.amazon.com/Basketball-Other-Things-Collection-Illustrated/dp/1419726471
https://www.amazon.com/This-Book-Has-Balls-Talking/dp/1501160311/

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Unfortunately no.
Nov 14th 2017
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the simmons jawnt is a superfast read.
Nov 14th 2017
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      Thx for the info.
Nov 14th 2017
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           the best book i've read on strategy + tactics:
Nov 14th 2017
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                Came in here to post this
Aug 08th 2018
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just realized the gawd mccallum has a new one out.
Nov 14th 2017
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"Assisted", by John Stockton, and re-reads of Kobe "Showtime" and Tyson'...
Nov 14th 2017
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Last sports book I read was Jalen Rose book
Nov 14th 2017
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SEE, thanks for this...
Nov 15th 2017
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just started the new howard bryant. so far, it's a banger.
Aug 08th 2018
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"The Boys in the Boat" was excellent.
Aug 08th 2018
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I've read two in the last 6 weeks and recommend both
Aug 08th 2018
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Good looks
Aug 08th 2018
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last one I read was Invictus
Aug 09th 2018
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everyone should read Phil Knight’s “SHOE DOG”
Sep 04th 2018
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not new but I liked Pete Carroll's: Win Forever
Sep 05th 2018
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obsidianchrysalis
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Tue Nov-14-17 08:48 PM

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1. "Unfortunately no."
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I keep wanting to get to Bill Simmons' Big Book of Basketball but haven't pulled the trigger to buy it.

I think the last book I got to was Phil's Sacred Hoops. But that was at least three years ago.

  

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dula dibiasi
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2. "the simmons jawnt is a superfast read. "
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you can knock it out in a Saturday afternoon.

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obsidianchrysalis
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3. "Thx for the info."
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Since this post is here. Let me ask you, or anyone, if they know of a good book on sports strategy or the technical details of a sport?

Back when I was younger, I could watch games and get a feel of the strategy but either because I'm not as interested in the games or my feel of sports isn't what it used to be since I don't play, my mind doesn't capture the nuances of the game. Maybe reading up on that would improve the entertainment of the game.

  

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dula dibiasi
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4. "the best book i've read on strategy + tactics:"
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https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3621358-inverting-the-pyramid

not sure if you're a soccer fan, but this one's a must read if you're into the game at all. utterly brilliant. a bit of a dry read but fascinating as hell if you nerd out on that type of shit.

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it is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - sherlock holmes

  

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13. "Came in here to post this"
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It's incredible

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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dula dibiasi
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5. "just realized the gawd mccallum has a new one out."
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https://www.amazon.com/Golden-Days-California-Reinvented-Basketball-ebook/dp/B073YTHL7X

i feel like i did know that, but maybe forgot.

either way, auto-copped.

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Cold Truth
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6. ""Assisted", by John Stockton, and re-reads of Kobe "Showtime" and Tyson'..."
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Undisputed Truth

Not sure if you count Jim Ross's life in pro wrestling, but that too.

Currently sitting on Furious George.

  

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DJR
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Tue Nov-14-17 10:37 PM

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7. "Last sports book I read was Jalen Rose book "
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I enjoyed it, but from listening to the podcast I’d heard a lot of the stories before.

Still found it a fun read though.

  

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8. "SEE, thanks for this..."
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as a long time listener to the pod, I keep debating with myself if I'm going to even hear anything new.

<<<< the Tate-over, ya breaks over

  

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dula dibiasi
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9. "just started the new howard bryant. so far, it's a banger."
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076GM8FXC/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

The Heritage: Black Athletes, a Divided America, and the Politics of Patriotism
Following in the footsteps of Robeson, Ali, Robinson and others, today's Black athletes re-engage with social issues and the meaning of American patriotism

It used to be that politics and sports were as separate from one another as church and state. The ballfield was an escape from the world's worst problems, top athletes were treated like heroes, and cheering for the home team was as easy and innocent as hot dogs and beer. "No news on the sports page" was a governing principle in newsrooms.

That was then.

Today, sports arenas have been transformed into staging grounds for American patriotism and the hero worship of law enforcement. Teams wear camouflage jerseys to honor those who serve; police officers throw out first pitches; soldiers surprise their families with homecomings at halftime. Sports and politics are decidedly entwined.

But as journalist Howard Bryant reveals, this has always been more complicated for black athletes, who from the start, were committing a political act simply by being on the field. In fact, among all black employees in twentieth-century America, perhaps no other group had more outsized influence and power than ballplayers. The immense social responsibilities that came with the role is part of the black athletic heritage. It is a heritage built by the influence of the superstardom and radical politics of Paul Robeson, Jackie Robinson, Muhammad Ali, Tommie Smith, and John Carlos through the 1960s; undermined by apolitical, corporate-friendly "transcenders of race," O. J. Simpson, Michael Jordan, and Tiger Woods in the following decades; and reclaimed today by the likes of LeBron James, Colin Kaepernick, and Carmelo Anthony.

The Heritage is the story of the rise, fall, and fervent return of the athlete-activist. Through deep research and interviews with some of sports' best-known stars—including Kaepernick, David Ortiz, Charles Barkley, and Chris Webber—as well as members of law enforcement and the military, Bryant details the collision of post-9/11 sports in America and the politically engaged post-Ferguson black athlete.

“A fascinating, insightful look at race, politics, and sport.”
—Booklist

“A well-researched meditation on the historical pressures on African-American athletes to embrace (or avoid) political engagement. . . An appealing blend of sports history and provocative discussion of race and success, respect, and representation in America.”
—Kirkus Reviews

“In this timely book, Bryant, senior writer for ESPN Magazine, astutely explains how sports serves ‘as a barometer of blacks’ standing in the larger culture.’ . . . . This indispensable book expertly chronicles a fractured nation dealing with black players who no longer want to (as Fox News host Laura Ingraham told LeBron James) ‘shut up and dribble.’”
—Publishers Weekly

“A fascinating and complex look at the role of black athletes as political activists. Bryant’s analysis of the intersection of professional sports and promoting patriotism (or nationalism, depending on one’s point of view) is especially enlightening.”
—Library Journal

“Bryant keeps his eye on the ball. On top of that, Bryant writes with the kind of vim, in turns darkly comic and serious, that pulls you from page to page. It’s a bracing analysis that brings clarity during a hazy season.”
—Pacific Standard

“Bryant’s The Heritage is required reading for young people to realize what they’re seeing isn’t new, for current adults to understand the current climate in American sports and for older folks who lamented the lack of activist voices in the athletic ranks. The baton has been tossed.”
—New York Amsterdam News

“It may make people uncomfortable, but I’m pleased that Howard Bryant has chosen to tell the story of our heritage, and even more pleased that there are still ballplayers today who are willing to stand up for what they think is right.”
—Henry Aaron, Major League Baseball Hall of Famer

“Serious times call for serious action. After leaving a communist totalitarian country when I was eighteen, I was free to speak out, and I did. The Heritage gives the clearest breakdown I’ve read on why we athletes not only have the right to advocate for what we believe in—but oftentimes a duty.”
—Martina Navratilova, eighteen-time tennis Grand Slam winner

“If you believe that sports can be a lens for interpreting and understanding our world, then The Heritage is the Rosetta stone. Howard Bryant’s latest explains so much about racism and the black athlete’s place in US history that every chapter could be its own college course. But Bryant’s book is less history than twenty-first-century prophetic fire: a polemic homing in on the ways that militarism, sports, and black athletic resistance have become volcanically explosive in the era of Trump. This is the book for explaining our times, whether you give a damn about sports or not.”
—Dave Zirin, sports editor, The Nation, and author of Jim Brown: Last Man Standing

About the Author
Howard Bryant is an award-winning journalist for ESPN.com and ESPN the Magazine and the sports correspondent for NPR's Weekend Edition. He is also the author of six books for adults and middle grade readers. Bryant lives in Northampton, MA.

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Buck
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10. ""The Boys in the Boat" was excellent."
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https://www.amazon.com/Boys-Boat-Americans-Berlin-Olympics-ebook/dp/B00AEBETU2

  

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Tiger Woods
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11. "I've read two in the last 6 weeks and recommend both"
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"Education of a Coach" by David Halberstam

really interesting read, written after BB's first three SB titles. What's unique about the book is that it's actually a lot more about the people and experiences that inform Belichick's outlook and processes more than it is about Belichick himself. Especially great stuff on his time with Parcells, LT, and the Giants. He lets LT slide on a lot of shit because he's such a special player, and reading that in the current context of Brady was fun.

"The QB: The Making of the Modern Quarterback" by Bruce Feldman

A deep dive on the position, in search of an explanation for why and how great QBs become great QBs. Spends time with everyone from a young Deshaun Watson and Josh Rosen to Aaron Rodgers. Digs into the cottage industry of developing young QBs and the lengths some of these kids (and their dads) go to help them advance at the position and in the sport. Awesome access to Manziel too.

  

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12. "Good looks"
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>
>"Education of a Coach" by David Halberstam
>
>really interesting read, written after BB's first three SB
>titles. What's unique about the book is that it's actually a
>lot more about the people and experiences that inform
>Belichick's outlook and processes more than it is about
>Belichick himself. Especially great stuff on his time with
>Parcells, LT, and the Giants. He lets LT slide on a lot of
>shit because he's such a special player, and reading that in
>the current context of Brady was fun.
>
>"The QB: The Making of the Modern Quarterback" by Bruce
>Feldman
>
>A deep dive on the position, in search of an explanation for
>why and how great QBs become great QBs. Spends time with
>everyone from a young Deshaun Watson and Josh Rosen to Aaron
>Rodgers. Digs into the cottage industry of developing young
>QBs and the lengths some of these kids (and their dads) go to
>help them advance at the position and in the sport. Awesome
>access to Manziel too.


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14. "last one I read was Invictus"
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bit of a feel good story, but still a fascinating look at two men (Nelson Mandela and Springbok captain François Pienaar) and how they represented the transition in South Africa to majority rule, and what rugby meant in SA.

  

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15. "everyone should read Phil Knight’s “SHOE DOG”"
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Thought this made more sense to post here than in the Kaepernick post, but relevant all the same given the unorthodox mindset of Phil Knight and the oddball culture he established and nurtured. I finished this a little over a week ago and found it to be shockingly inspiring and colorful. Reads like fiction, like the long journey of someone on a soul searching mission.

  

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16. "not new but I liked Pete Carroll's: Win Forever"
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interesting applications if you are in any kind of management role

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