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"LiAngelo Ball one of three UCLA players arrested in China..."


          

for shoplifting...allegedly, from a Louis Vitton store.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/21331147/ucla-players-liangelo-ball-cody-riley-jalen-hill-arrested-china-shoplifting

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I mean, he's young and dumb and prone to do young and dumb shit.
Nov 07th 2017
1
And Lavar just bought a multi-million $$$ mansion a few months ago...
Nov 07th 2017
2
good ol' tourist entitlement.
Nov 08th 2017
30
Stay in your lane, son....the checkout lane
Nov 07th 2017
3
lmao, that's good
Nov 07th 2017
6
Sounds like some bull$hit IMO
Nov 07th 2017
4
Poppa Ball Better Get Out DAT BIG BALLER BELT
Nov 07th 2017
5
Yeah, if LaVar pops shit to China, they're going to jail.
Nov 07th 2017
7
99.2% conviction rate. He bout to be LiParole Ball.
Nov 07th 2017
8
I can only think that's the wrong country to get arrested in
Nov 07th 2017
9
They got a Steve Alford free throw conviction rate.
Nov 07th 2017
10
Marbury gonna intercede like Jesse and free LiAngelo.
Nov 07th 2017
11
Chinese Legend
Nov 07th 2017
12
Still got my Starbury 1's
Nov 08th 2017
17
      Collectors item man. Hold on to those joints
Nov 08th 2017
21
Nah, there's a path to freedom.
Nov 07th 2017
13
      So basically, he's going to do some Chinese time.
Nov 07th 2017
14
      trump couldn't mess anything up that Kobe Bryant
Nov 08th 2017
19
           I'm not worried about basketball if I'm them.
Nov 08th 2017
20
                I think the point is as basketball players they may get a little more...
Nov 08th 2017
22
                Sure, they may.
Nov 08th 2017
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                RE: Sure, they may.
Nov 08th 2017
31
                dudes in here acting like they don't remember Brokedown Palace.
Nov 08th 2017
33
                     never heard of it and had to google but apparently its about 2 random...
Nov 08th 2017
35
                     like Locked Up Abroad ain't a thing
Nov 08th 2017
36
                          how many celebrities and famous athletes you seen on there?
Nov 08th 2017
37
                               I'm mostly funning...
Nov 08th 2017
38
                               LiAngelo Ball and Big Baller's names aren't cutting much ice in China.
Nov 08th 2017
39
                               this is a national story though, right?
Nov 08th 2017
40
                                    I doubt that Fox News would care about the plight of 3 random Black
Nov 12th 2017
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                               It's three black kids right?
Nov 09th 2017
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                                    Neither of them care for Black people much.
Nov 12th 2017
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                                    Which is my point.
Nov 12th 2017
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                                    China is basketball crazy and black basketball players are extremely...
Nov 12th 2017
52
                                         So is America. What's your point.
Nov 12th 2017
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                                         They're most likely the only Blacks in the country, living there
Nov 12th 2017
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                that would actually be hilarious
Nov 08th 2017
25
                I just busted out laughing...
Nov 08th 2017
26
                Like I said, jail.
Nov 13th 2017
61
JAILO BALL
Nov 08th 2017
15
LiAngelo Bail
Nov 08th 2017
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      Big Baller Bail
Nov 08th 2017
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           Bail Bondsmen Ball
Nov 08th 2017
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                Swap Meet Li'o
Nov 08th 2017
32
From I what understand, this was the wrong city for this to happen
Nov 08th 2017
27
BBB gonna have to move their production to china to free him
Nov 08th 2017
29
how not Big Baller of him
Nov 08th 2017
28
UCLA gonna be even more Chinese next fall.
Nov 08th 2017
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This is all allegedly.
Nov 08th 2017
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right...
Nov 09th 2017
42
there is no allegedly in China, really.
Nov 09th 2017
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      I’m saying. If there’s a video of what happened...
Nov 09th 2017
45
      ^^^ this. do y'all realize you can't even get on twitter or fb from chin...
Nov 09th 2017
48
Good article from Bleacher Report about getting arrested in China
Nov 09th 2017
43
dumb
Nov 09th 2017
46
The best thing that could come out of this is the players getting deport...
Nov 12th 2017
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not coming home with the team...
Nov 12th 2017
54
wtf were they thinking?
Nov 12th 2017
57
yeah idk why ppl are in here questioning the veracity...
Nov 12th 2017
58
      ryan lochte got his ass on a plane back home
Nov 12th 2017
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      uh cause it's china. always be a little skeptical of them
Nov 13th 2017
60
LaVar got Trump on the case now
Nov 14th 2017
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lmao at told yall.. followed by coming home in a week or 2.
Nov 14th 2017
63
vs. jail time and both governments NGAF about this case
Nov 14th 2017
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Lolol right.
Nov 14th 2017
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Marbury did it!
Nov 14th 2017
65
HOOP GAME HANK KISSINGER.
Nov 14th 2017
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RE: LaVar got Trump on the case now
Nov 14th 2017
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      bruh, they're literally on a plane flying back right now
Nov 14th 2017
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Ungrateful nigras
Nov 15th 2017
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Lol wow
Nov 15th 2017
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lmfao. trump always delivers on predictable shit
Nov 15th 2017
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Did one of these dudes have a Chinese gift bag carry-on?
Nov 15th 2017
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jesus, give them a chance to get back and get settled for a sec
Nov 15th 2017
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      lol...you asking Trump to be reasonable?
Nov 15th 2017
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suspended indefinitely...
Nov 15th 2017
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOsj1ILUQAAX5Zw.jpg:large
Nov 16th 2017
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I know its probably hard seeing his brothers in Marvel/NBA commercials.....
Jun 22nd 2021
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nah. even in h.s. he wasn't it. didn't have the skillset for the body ty...
Jun 22nd 2021
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well all know NBA siblings that have gotten shots based on who their...
Jun 23rd 2021
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Gelo should've played football or tried to be a gymfluencer
Jun 23rd 2021
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what the fuck
Jun 23rd 2021
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Seth Curry and LiAngelo Ball both went to the G-League.
Jun 23rd 2021
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RE: Seth Curry and LiAngelo Ball both went to the G-League.
Jun 24th 2021
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      wasn’t Austin Rivers 5 star and ranked #1 in his class? Bagley? Giles?
Jun 25th 2021
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what he should do, is try out for an NFL team.
Jun 23rd 2021
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      He isn't Tim Tebow.
Jun 25th 2021
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Hornets bringing him in for Summer League
Jul 24th 2021
88
Hitch your wagon to Melo, Gelo.
Jul 24th 2021
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I'm definitely rooting for the kid
Jul 24th 2021
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Dude is only a bit over 6’2?
Jul 24th 2021
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      I'd put him closer to 6'4. But it doesn't matter.
Jul 24th 2021
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           Huh? it matters a lot imo
Aug 09th 2021
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                If you're a 6'7 wing who's slow, can't defend, and can't pass...
Aug 09th 2021
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16 pts in Summer League debut . 5/8 from 3
Aug 08th 2021
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I WONDER IF FIRED TRUMP WILL CONGRATULATE HIM??!!
Aug 08th 2021
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lololol
Aug 10th 2021
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I'd love to see him make a squad and prove a lot of these wannabe...
Aug 09th 2021
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I'd love to see him make it, because it'd show exceptionally hard work.
Aug 09th 2021
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      outside of 7 footers and athletic freaks isn't that how everybody's in.....
Aug 10th 2021
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           Certain limitations are harder than others.
Aug 10th 2021
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Aug 10th 2021
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                     Didn't say he wasn't.
Aug 10th 2021
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he still doesn't look like an NBA player to me but I think he
Aug 10th 2021
100
      the line between what "looks like an NBA player" and doesn't is pretty.....
Aug 10th 2021
101
           Payne was out of the league for like eight months
Aug 10th 2021
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A thread full of Ls
Aug 19th 2021
107

mrhood75
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1. "I mean, he's young and dumb and prone to do young and dumb shit."
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But dude needs to have some sense that doing this type of thing in another country has the potential to get you extremely fucked up.

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2. "And Lavar just bought a multi-million $$$ mansion a few months ago..."
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... sounds like some ol' knucklehead shit.

  

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30. "good ol' tourist entitlement."
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I saw it a lot in Mexico -- bros getting in street fights over girls or a brush-by. um, you're not a citizen here and don't have your typical US rights.

coincidentally enough, the influx of Chinese tourists to other countries has earned them the same ugly reputation.

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3. "Stay in your lane, son....the checkout lane"
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6. "lmao, that's good"
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4. "Sounds like some bull$hit IMO"
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3 black American basketball players stole something from a LV store next to their hotel in China...c'mon son

Sounds like some...you buy now (c) $hit to me

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5. "Poppa Ball Better Get Out DAT BIG BALLER BELT"
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And handle his lightweight

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7. "Yeah, if LaVar pops shit to China, they're going to jail."
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China gives less than zero fucks.

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8. "99.2% conviction rate. He bout to be LiParole Ball."
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9. "I can only think that's the wrong country to get arrested in"
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What an F up

  

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10. "They got a Steve Alford free throw conviction rate. "
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11. "Marbury gonna intercede like Jesse and free LiAngelo."
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That's about the only shot he got of getting out of this.

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12. "Chinese Legend"
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17. "Still got my Starbury 1's"
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21. "Collectors item man. Hold on to those joints"
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13. "Nah, there's a path to freedom."
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It involves LaVar and UCLA begging forgiveness publicly, and it involves Trump not fucking up relations during his visit.

So it's a path fraught with peril. But it's there.

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14. "So basically, he's going to do some Chinese time."
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19. "trump couldn't mess anything up that Kobe Bryant "
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can't fix with some phone calls..

those kids will be aight....

suspended for a while...but none of them are major factors for the team this season.

  

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20. "I'm not worried about basketball if I'm them."
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They've been released, but they've been ordered not to leave their hotel until the judge decides what to do. There's no due process in China, so that could take weeks of essentially hotel arrest. And if they decide to press charges, China doesn't give a fuck. They've jailed foreigners before, likely for less. There's no extradition treaty with China. There's a 99% conviction rate in cases like these. So if the Louis Vuitton manager feels like being an asshole or "making an example," then their asses may go to Chinese prison. *Will* it happen? Hopefully not, I'd even say it's more likely to not... but it's a more tenuous situation than I think most people realize.

I asked a friend who studies international relations with China for a living about the situation. Her eyes got big when I told her the details, and she said, "They better not give anyone a reason to be petty. Or they're toast."

So if I'm them, I don't care a scrap about basketball right now. I care about not landing in Chinese prison. Which, regardless of who they know, is an actual possibility.

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22. "I think the point is as basketball players they may get a little more..."
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leniency than a regular Joe Blow. They may have to play a season for the Shanghai Dragons though lol

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23. "Sure, they may."
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I'm just pointing out that China has literally all the cards here, so the school/family/gov't lawyers need to give them whatever they want, because China has proven in the past they'll lock foreigners up to make an example-- and it's a pretty cut-and-dry case in this situation. It'll all depend on how lenient the folks in China choose to be-- so everyone needs to give them a reason to feel like being lenient.

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31. "RE: Sure, they may."
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>I'm just pointing out that China has literally all the cards
>here, so the school/family/gov't lawyers need to give them
>whatever they want, because China has proven in the past
>they'll lock foreigners up to make an example-- and it's a
>pretty cut-and-dry case in this situation. It'll all depend on
>how lenient the folks in China choose to be-- so everyone
>needs to give them a reason to feel like being lenient.

Is the case really that “cut-and-dry” at this point? Do we even know what actually happened?

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33. "dudes in here acting like they don't remember Brokedown Palace."
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35. "never heard of it and had to google but apparently its about 2 random..."
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chicks who were smuggling drugs in Thailand, not quite the same as 3 UCLA basketball players who may have been in a Louis Vitton store when sunglasses were stolen.

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36. "like Locked Up Abroad ain't a thing"
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37. "how many celebrities and famous athletes you seen on there? "
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The optics of China sending a 18 year old famous athlete from the United States to Chinese prison for years over petty shoplifting on a sports cultural exchange trip would be horrible.

China isn't trying to start shit with the United States and locking up a Big Baller would be a step in the wrong direction.

As long as he apologizes and Lavar doesn't say anything stupid, LiAngelo will be back at UCLA to underwhelm everybody for the next four years.

Think you guys are getting China and North Korea mixed up

  

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38. "I'm mostly funning..."
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and while I agree, I don't think anything is gonna happen to them...you're bugging if you think the US gives two shits about a Ball being jammed up in China. It'd be like that Chapelle skit....
https://youtu.be/_2ASPUkkHMs?t=125

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39. "LiAngelo Ball and Big Baller's names aren't cutting much ice in China."
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This isn't a "celebrity," it's the middle Ball kid and two other players.

China is probably the #1 economic power in the world right now. And they don't particularly care about the optics of the situation. Especially about three kids from a country who's President has made it a habit about talking spicy about that country for the better part of two years.

>As long as he apologizes and Lavar doesn't say anything
>stupid, LiAngelo will be back at UCLA to underwhelm everybody
>for the next four years.

This part is likely true. But the Ball family and UCLA don't have any negotiating power here.

>Think you guys are getting China and North Korea mixed up

This isn't N. Korea, but it's a fairly totalitarian regime when it wants to be. And it's not exactly fearing the reprucussions of anything here.

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40. "this is a national story though, right? "
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It's plastered all over ESPN I imagine. The casual sports fan in the United States will follow the story, and you can bet if he serves jail time it will be an international story. If he was some random dipshit visiting from UCLA and got jail time it would still make headlines. But college basketball players on a sports visit? And the littlest big baller? This story is getting coverage no matter what.

I know China's big shit and doesn't fear the United States, but diplomatically speaking they have two options. Accept a sincere apology and let the kids walk as a show of good faith to the United States or punish them heavily and have every talking head on faux news yapping about how it's a slap in the face to the US. Trumps dumb ass will be coerced into popping shit on Twitter, and so starts an escalation. Not saying BBB leads to WWIII but if this is mishandled it could bring unwanted tension. China has simply nothing to gain by jailing them whereas letting them walk on China's terms shows a willingness to cooperate and not be petty.

Countries ALWAYS care about the optics in international affairs.

  

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56. "I doubt that Fox News would care about the plight of 3 random Black"
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basketball players getting busted in a country known for human rights violations, air pollution and being one of the last remaining (officially) Communist strongholds on Earth.

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47. "It's three black kids right?"
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Both countries about to make an example on the low.

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49. "Neither of them care for Black people much."
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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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51. "Which is my point. "
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Ain't nothing that China could do that THESE folks wouldn't excuse.
There was a study done recently about informing white people about the statistical differences with punishments applied to.black people.
When informed of how lopsided the punishments are, white people support the punishment MORE not less

*2014 Stanford study.
https://www.vox.com/2014/8/7/5978551/study-racism-criminal-justice-stop-and-frisk-reform-support

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52. "China is basketball crazy and black basketball players are extremely..."
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popular over there

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53. "So is America. What's your point. "
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55. "They're most likely the only Blacks in the country, living there"
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on temporary visas aside from a handful of African migrants.

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25. "that would actually be hilarious"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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26. "I just busted out laughing..."
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could you imagine? Sentence: 1 season with the Shanghai Dragons...with no pay. LOL! ESPN would be broadcasting Dragons' games.

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61. "Like I said, jail. "
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15. "JAILO BALL"
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LMAO

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16. "LiAngelo Bail"
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18. "Big Baller Bail"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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24. "Bail Bondsmen Ball"
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32. "Swap Meet Li'o"
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27. "From I what understand, this was the wrong city for this to happen"
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There's apparently no middle class in Hangzhou: there's either really rich or really poor, and the culture in the city is designed to protect the rich from the poor. And in this particular LV store, there are guards armed with machine guns at the door and LOTS of hidden cameras. Everything about that screams "DON'T SHOP LIFT."

So yeah, I hope for these three kids sake the store manager, owner, and Chinese Government is ready to let this slide. And if so, they need to take those three and putting them on the first plane back to the U.S.

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29. "BBB gonna have to move their production to china to free him"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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28. "how not Big Baller of him"
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34. "UCLA gonna be even more Chinese next fall."
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41. "This is all allegedly."
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Several days later, and still no real details.

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42. "right..."
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>Several days later, and still no real details.

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44. "there is no allegedly in China, really."
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I get what you're saying, but when dealing with the Chinese authorities, it is what they say it is.

In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
-Hunter S. Thompson

  

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45. "I’m saying. If there’s a video of what happened..."
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(And there most certainly is) I really doubt we ever see it. No matter if it incriminates him or exonerates him. The Chinese Government is going to do what’s its going to do regardless.

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48. "^^^ this. do y'all realize you can't even get on twitter or fb from chin..."
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ain't no allegedly. they. don't. give. a. fuck.

no appeals, none of that shit.

seems like it worked out for dude. prolly was some $$$ under the table and some ucla tickets and undisclosed future draft picks.

dude really dodged a bullet, tho.

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43. "Good article from Bleacher Report about getting arrested in China"
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Bottom line is: don't. And if you do, don't let it go to trial. Things work differently over there, in the sense that if a case goes to trial, there's already the presumption that the investigation is over and you're guilty; the only thing left is the sentencing.

However, the legal experts that they've talked to seem to think the most likely outcome is that the three spend 20 days under house arrest in the hotel, quietly get put on a plane to leave, and then get permanently banned from ever coming back.

That said, the article also includes a pretty harrowing story about an athlete from the U.S. working in China who's been arrested, gone to trial, and, many months later, still awaiting sentencing. And he still hasn't been allowed to contact his family.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2743394-experts-on-liangelo-balls-murky-legal-situation-after-arrest-in-china

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46. "dumb"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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50. "The best thing that could come out of this is the players getting deport..."
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and permanently banned from the country.

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54. "not coming home with the team..."
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may have to remain in China for another "week or two". They were even kept in a separate hotel from the rest of the team, once they were released. Apparently, there's video of them stealing from three different stores. SMH.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/21370055/three-ucla-players-arrested-shoplifting-charges-fly-home-team

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57. "wtf were they thinking?"
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I can't even imagine why anyone -- even a dumb teenager -- would try this.


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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58. "yeah idk why ppl are in here questioning the veracity..."
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young dumb americans behaving badly abroad isn't exactly a stretch (shout out to ryan lochte)



>Apparently, there's video of them
>stealing from three different stores. SMH.
>
>http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/21370055/three-ucla-players-arrested-shoplifting-charges-fly-home-team

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59. "ryan lochte got his ass on a plane back home"
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he might be dumb but he ain't stupid

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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60. "uh cause it's china. always be a little skeptical of them"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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62. "LaVar got Trump on the case now "
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told y'all, it's all about the optics. these kids are coming home in a week, two tops.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/11/13/trump-personally-asked-xi-jinping-to-help-resolve-case-of-ucla-basketball-players-arrested-in-china/?utm_term=.f061ceed4894

  

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63. "lmao at told yall.. followed by coming home in a week or 2. "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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64. "vs. jail time and both governments NGAF about this case"
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POTUS knew it was enough of a bad look to have to ask a favor to free the kids.

  

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67. "Lolol right."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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65. "Marbury did it!"
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66. "HOOP GAME HANK KISSINGER. "
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68. "RE: LaVar got Trump on the case now "
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President Donald Trump has a plan. It’ll be ready in two weeks.

From overhauling the tax code to releasing an infrastructure package to making decisions on Nafta and the Paris climate agreement, Trump has a common refrain: A big announcement is coming in just “two weeks.” It rarely does.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-06/in-trump-s-white-house-everything-s-coming-in-two-weeks

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69. "bruh, they're literally on a plane flying back right now "
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in no way am I defending or praising Trump, just saying this is result was obvious from the start. Expect a public apology tomorrow.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/21409577/ucla-bruins-players-detained-china-set-return-united-states

UCLA freshmen LiAngelo Ball, Cody Riley and Jalen Hill, who have been detained in China for the past week on suspicion of shoplifting, are headed back to the United States and are scheduled to arrive later Tuesday in Los Angeles, the Pac-12 confirmed.

The players were seen checking into a Los Angeles-bound Delta flight at Shanghai's Pudong International Airport, airline staff told The Wall Street Journal, who first reported that the players were heading back to the U.S.

Delta's flight tracker currently shows that two planes departed from Shanghai at around the same time Tuesday night local time, and both are scheduled to arrive at Los Angeles International Airport at around 5 p.m. PT.

  

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70. "Ungrateful nigras"
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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/930815626460921856

Do you think the three UCLA Basketball Players will say thank you President Trump? They were headed for 10 years in jail!

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71. "Lol wow"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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72. "lmfao. trump always delivers on predictable shit"
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73. "Did one of these dudes have a Chinese gift bag carry-on? "
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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74. "jesus, give them a chance to get back and get settled for a sec"
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always gotta turn everything into a culture war.

  

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75. "lol...you asking Trump to be reasonable?"
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76. "suspended indefinitely..."
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https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/930876844047503360

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77. "https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOsj1ILUQAAX5Zw.jpg:large"
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOsj1ILUQAAX5Zw.jpg:large

****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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78. "I know its probably hard seeing his brothers in Marvel/NBA commercials....."
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and wondering what could've been for been for him. I know people say he wasn't as talented but I feel like he would've been on a roster if he hadn't had this moment of stupidity

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79. "nah. even in h.s. he wasn't it. didn't have the skillset for the body ty..."
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chino hills he ain't really have to play d. he was the 'big' on the squad (well one of them). brothers shooting from halfcourt. it was oops and breakaways. more importantly, they pop had them thinking their shit ain't stink.

even when they went to yugoslavia or where the fk ever the rap on him and melo was that they were entitled and didn't work hard.

they could have really made strides and didn't. but melo was just way more talented and a better nba fit. gelo wasn't even getting major run at ucla. he got the scholly on that 'lemme sign you so i can sign your brother' shit.


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80. "well all know NBA siblings that have gotten shots based on who their... "
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brother was.

David Webber was in the league, Steph got Seth in the league, Giannis has his whole family in league

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82. "Gelo should've played football or tried to be a gymfluencer"
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81. "what the fuck"
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dude was not an nba player

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83. "Seth Curry and LiAngelo Ball both went to the G-League."
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Seth Curry scored 20 PPG in the G-League his first season and 24 PPG his second, making the G-League All-Star team both years.

LiAngelo Ball couldn't get on a G-League roster.

This is likely because LiAngelo Ball was a three-star recruit who wasn't going to earn minutes in the worst major conference in college basketball at the time, and Seth Curry was an All-ACC First Team and All-American Second Team player.

LiAngelo's always been slow, always been a bad defender, always been a mediocre scorer outside of standstill shooting. His only chance to make an NBA roster would've been to become a 45+% 3PT shooter consistently. Even then it'd be a stretch. He's just not an NBA prospect and never was to anyone who'd actually seen him play.

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85. "RE: Seth Curry and LiAngelo Ball both went to the G-League."
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>Seth Curry scored 20 PPG in the G-League his first season and
>24 PPG his second, making the G-League All-Star team both
>years.
>
>LiAngelo Ball couldn't get on a G-League roster.
>
>This is likely because LiAngelo Ball was a three-star recruit
>who wasn't going to earn minutes in the worst major conference
>in college basketball at the time, and Seth Curry was an
>All-ACC First Team and All-American Second Team player.
>
>LiAngelo's always been slow, always been a bad defender,
>always been a mediocre scorer outside of standstill shooting.
>His only chance to make an NBA roster would've been to become
>a 45+% 3PT shooter consistently. Even then it'd be a stretch.
>He's just not an NBA prospect and never was to anyone who'd
>actually seen him play.

Steph, Dame and Russ were all 3 star recruits, Jimmy Butler was a 2 star recruit, PG & CJ McCollum were 3 stars, Cameron Payne was out of the league last year. Not saying Gelo would've been as good as any of those dudes but lets you know what high school rankings mean.

When you get to borderline NBA roster guys its a fine line between making a team, g-league, 10-day contract whatever.

I was just saying its probably hard for Gelo watching his brothers in national commercials and WONDERING what could've been for him.

Would any of Giannis' brothers be in the league if they're last name was Jackson?

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86. "wasn’t Austin Rivers 5 star and ranked #1 in his class? Bagley? Giles?"
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84. "what he should do, is try out for an NFL team."
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87. "He isn't Tim Tebow."
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88. "Hornets bringing him in for Summer League"
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89. "Hitch your wagon to Melo, Gelo. "
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It's genuinely his only chance to ever wear an NBA uniform. (Unless he's become an exceptionally gifted shooter in the last couple of years.)

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90. "I'm definitely rooting for the kid"
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91. "Dude is only a bit over 6’2? "
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I don’t see how he sticks

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92. "I'd put him closer to 6'4. But it doesn't matter."
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I know people question the listed 6'5, but they could list him at 6'7, and it wouldn't matter. He's slow. Not very athletic. Can't pass. Can't dribble. Can't defend. Unless he's a consistent 40+% catch-and-shoot guy from NBA 3-point range, he has zero chance to stick.

And even if he did shoot that well... he still may not stick. Jimmer's 6'2 and an elite shooter (including off-the-bounce) with better handles and passing than Gelo, and he can't stick. If Gelo made it to even Jimmer's level (G-League All-Star/MVP overseas), it'd be incredible.

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96. "Huh? it matters a lot imo"
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if he weren't a guard there would be way less pressure to handle the ball and be a good playmaker

  

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97. "If you're a 6'7 wing who's slow, can't defend, and can't pass..."
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... unless you're a Top 30 shooter in the NBA, you're just not going to stick.

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93. "16 pts in Summer League debut . 5/8 from 3"
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94. "I WONDER IF FIRED TRUMP WILL CONGRATULATE HIM??!!"
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103. "lololol"
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95. "I'd love to see him make a squad and prove a lot of these wannabe..."
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"experts" wrong

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98. "I'd love to see him make it, because it'd show exceptionally hard work."
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Slow shooting guards who can't pass or defend just don't make the NBA unless they're elite shooters. If he makes the NBA, that means he's become such an elite shooter that he can't be left off a roster. And he wasn't that kind of shooter at any point to date, so it'd show extreme discipline and hard work on his part. That sort of improvement would merit celebrating.

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99. "outside of 7 footers and athletic freaks isn't that how everybody's in....."
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the NBA?

and even those guys have to put in the work

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102. "Certain limitations are harder than others."
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LiAngelo would be, out of all NBA wings, something like bottom 10% in both foot speed and athleticism. He will be unable to defend any NBA wing-- even if he exerts maximum effort and plays the highest IQ team defense imaginable, he has physical limitations that are insanely tough to overcome. Like, Joe Harris simply can't defend NBA players either. But he's one of the best shooters in the NBA.

LiAngelo is a good, if streaky, shooter. But to stick as an end-of-rotation NBA player, I genuinely think he has to be, like, a 43%+ shooter consistently from 3. And even then, there are plenty of guys who shoot well in the G-League who just never stick as pros due to limitations.

I think there's a reason, to date, why LiAngelo hasn't even been able to make it into a G-League game, let alone an NBA game. And it's not because he doesn't work hard. He's just got to work that much harder than even other NBA players to make it work here. It's going to be a really tough road for him. And I don't think anyone expressing skepticism that he can make it is being unfairly judgmental-- they're just being practical. Exceedingly few players with his limitations become NBA players.

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104. ""
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Stop it, Gelo is a better athlete than Joe Harris and he didn’t have…

the most direct route to the NBA either, he continued to work on his game and found the right spot.

Same thing with Jeremy Lin.

The shit is not rocket science lol

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105. "Didn't say he wasn't."
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I said Gelo would be a bottom 10th percentile athlete on the wing in the NBA. And that's true. Might even be generous.

And again, you're describing the insane exceptions to the rule. Of course anyone *can* find a path to success. But when people say "Player X isn't an NBA player," it's because 99+% of the time, college/overseas players like that player can't make it in the NBA.

I'm rooting for him, because I have sympathy for anyone with a clear dream that has serious impediments to overcome. But again, it is exceedingly unlikely that Gelo can stick in the NBA, regardless of how Summer League goes. And if he does, it's because he's made himself into one of the best shooters in the world.

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100. "he still doesn't look like an NBA player to me but I think he"
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could play overseas

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101. "the line between what "looks like an NBA player" and doesn't is pretty....."
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thin.

Cam Payne of the Suns went from a 1st round pick to being cut to 10-day contracts to being out of the league, to playing in China, to the G-League, to the Phoenix Suns even starting a few games when Chris Paul was out and earning a 3/yr-$19mil contract.

Several players bounce around a similar timeline its all about getting the right opportunity so its comical for folks to say definitively that someone is or isn't a NBA player when actual NBA coaches, GM's and scouts don't see it that way.

Especially now with players coming out so young for some it takes time to mature and develop.

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106. "Payne was out of the league for like eight months"
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after multiple broken bones in his feet

this is not the same thing

healthy, cameron payne was never at any point not regarded as an NBA player

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107. "A thread full of Ls"
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