1. "Yeah, he's doing it wrong" In response to Reply # 0 Mon Sep-18-17 10:17 AM by bentagain
In no way am I a FT fan
but they were on it today with the ?s
I can't figure out why 'Rie would do the interview if he never intended to answer the ?s
'I don't have an ego' (c) Kyrie Irving
...then why leave CLE, which gives you the best chance to Win...
those 2 ideas are in direct conflict, and he's smart enough to know that
Doing it wrong = instead of coming on and doing the politically correct thing...he needs to go full heel!
...I'm better than IT3 and I will be better than LBJ...
something like that would go a long way in BOS
but being a swarmy dickhead with a fresh cut and agent suit, ducking and dodging answering direct questions for a half an hour...and being visibly agitated by reasonable ?s
= L.
I don't see this ending well in BOS for him
this interview is going to get run, probably through the whole season
40. "because the team gon be some shit. stop talkin in circles. " In response to Reply # 36
celts stacked. everyone under 27 and they got two more lottery picks coming. shut up and stop making this about ONE season, when he has 10 more years to play.
6. "More than likely the worst move of his career..." In response to Reply # 3
As long as LeBron stays in the east then he will never reach the Finals again. Kyrie has yet to prove that he can win games without LeBron. His three years before LBJ came back the Cavs were one of the worst teams in the league. When LBJ came back and he sat out they couldn’t win. In the playoff game against Indiana where they made that huge comeback, Kyrie was on the bench for that. None of that resonates with this dude though. Gone will be the double teams that LeBron gets which allow Kyrie to have the success that he does.
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20. "I remember Kyrie talking shit to Kobe " In response to Reply # 6
this was prolly summer before his rookie year. Kobe shrugged at him. While I admire the competitive spirit I think Kyrie might be a little to arrogant for his own good.
Then again, maybe he wants to try and prove he can do it without LB.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
45. "We have the eye test to prove that he is good..." In response to Reply # 20
but not elite.
Boston will be okay this year, but they gutted that team. IT 3 was responsible for a majority of that success. Crowder and Bradley anchored the defense. Kyrie who will be the primary ball handler is not one to get others involved i.e. the first three years of his career in Cleveland. He just looks like the type that doesn’t learn much. He would be better served to take the things that he learned from Bron in what it take to be a winner... prolly not though.
9. "If you can't concede Bron did these two hoe ass things, don't speak" In response to Reply # 0
1. was actively consulting with gilbert on trades involving kyrie around time of draft and gave tacit approval to PG/Bledsoe for Kyrie in a 3 team trade. that's been reported. it is a FACT.
2. bron leaked his trade request. been reported. don't know it's fact, but SOMEONE leaked it and why would it be the cavs as it would hurt their leverage?
if you gon not be fair and support bron's antics, just say you a hater.
11. "yeah bron been playing these games at every stop of his career so far" In response to Reply # 9 Mon Sep-18-17 12:27 PM by Cenario
i'm not surprised that someone finally got tired of it.
I dont 'need' to hear kyrie's reasons to know he tired of the Bron BS. And now he's in a great situation in Boston.
If he wound up on some crap team like the knicks, than he'd have some explaining to do.
But this dude gets to be the best player on a young squad with other all stars and a winning tradition AND be in the East. Homie just checkmated. When you checkmate, you don't need to explain why you did what you did. Its obvious. Nigga won.
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
12. "why would he have explaining to do..." In response to Reply # 11
if he ended up on the Knicks? He didn't have a choice where he was going. He took a gamble, he's in a great spot...but, if he had got sent to the Knicks for a package Cleveland liked...it was still a result of the same gamble.
...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft
13. "i know it was out of his control where he wound up." In response to Reply # 12
i'm just saying he wound up in a great situation. harping on why he wanted to leave is irrelevant bc he's now in an arguably better situation.
If he wound up in a bad situation like the knicks, then to me, it would be like 'damn you wound up on the knicks, was that worth being traded, why would you rather be there than on Cle.'?
But since he's in a better situation, its like going back in the past to rehash that cle situation. Homie done moved up and moved on.
Maybe i felt like they just asking the wrong questions idk. But it should be obvious that he was tired of bron. Of course espn just wants those headline quotes.
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
19. "man, you already know" In response to Reply # 9
>1. was actively consulting with gilbert on trades involving >kyrie around time of draft and gave tacit approval to >PG/Bledsoe for Kyrie in a 3 team trade. that's been reported. >it is a FACT. > >2. bron leaked his trade request. been reported. don't know >it's fact, but SOMEONE leaked it and why would it be the cavs >as it would hurt their leverage?
the thing different this time around, LeBron is playing the fans like a fiddle and covering ALL his bases
to the point I can't even be mad. again, 2016 happened and they both got over Donkeylips and 'em.
GOATs, I'm going to really miss Kyrie in Wine and Gold, was hoping he could be our "Kobe" for real
21. "Bron has a statue in front of the hoe shit hall of fame..." In response to Reply # 9
> > >1. was actively consulting with gilbert on trades involving >kyrie around time of draft and gave tacit approval to >PG/Bledsoe for Kyrie in a 3 team trade. that's been reported. >it is a FACT. > >2. bron leaked his trade request. been reported. don't know >it's fact, but SOMEONE leaked it and why would it be the cavs >as it would hurt their leverage? > >if you gon not be fair and support bron's antics, just say you >a hater.
One of the things he did was veto a prime Amare for JJ Hickson trade, allegedly. That's one of the things, allegedly....
He had to green light the PG/Bledsoe trade but I am unsure if he consulted if Gilbert on trades for Ky.
Ky is a disciple of Big Boss so it's hard to hate on him unless he bashes the city for no reason.
49. "Welcome to the darkside.." In response to Reply # 9
Bron being a great player make him no less a self-centered, egotistical control freak who thinks everyone should cater to his best interest. Rie was like nah playa...You ain't leaving me to rot alone in this hell hole. Besides nga, you can't close games w/o me anyway. Good luck with the midget. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <---- 5.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo
15. "I certainly agree that he doesn't owe LeBron any explanation" In response to Reply # 0
And he ended up in a good situation, so it doesn't really matter now. He won't have to spend the year waiting to see if LeBron wants to come back or not.
17. "pretty much...not sure what's so hard about this." In response to Reply # 15
>And he ended up in a good situation, so it doesn't really >matter now. He won't have to spend the year waiting to see if >LeBron wants to come back or not.
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
22. "Was Kyrie there to promote sneakers? His Uncle Drew or whatever commerci..." In response to Reply # 0
From reading this post, it seems as if this was a train wreck is the purpose of his visit was pertaining to the Boston trade, which even if that wasn't the main reason for him being on the show, he had to know that was going to be something the hosts were going to bring up.
Did Kyrie manage to somehow look even worse than Screaming A normally does?
"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.
23. "UPDATE: This was the best career move he could make for basketball reaso..." In response to Reply # 0
Ky had to change his game to play with Lebron. He actually doesn't like to iso so much but our system leans so much on Bron that's all Ky could do. We don't move the ball nearly as much as other teams and our system relies on drive and kick that Bron is known for.
Ky going to Boston allows him to show a lot more versatility than we've seen. They should move the ball more and this will benefit Ky. Jayson Tatum and Marcus Smart take pressure off Ky to do everything along with Gordon Hayward etc.
Good for Ky for ethering Max Kellerman and destroying all these false narratives. He kicked Kobe out of this story was one of the best moments of the whole interview. Let Kobe rest in retirement.
29. "Max did the classic white liberal thing of hating on a uppity black guy" In response to Reply # 28 Tue Sep-19-17 01:47 PM by Basaglia
He's been doing it all summer and he's smart enough to know it's not about his questions yesterday. Max has flat out called Kyrie stupid several times (based solely on the flat-earth fiasco, which even if true, doesn't indicate the entirety of one's intelligence anymore than someone believing a man in the sky is watching all of us while they interpret Constitutional law and set policy for our lives), so Kyrie roasted his dumb ass.
I bet Max wouldn't nitpick the public speaking skills of LeBron, who be cooking the fukk outta some English whenever a mic is in his face. I bet that.
31. "Reading in between the lines here " In response to Reply # 30
it seems as if Screaming A came out looking to most sensible in that whole episode. I almost want to watch how beautiful that car wreck of an episode was.
"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.
BrooklynWHAT Member since Jun 15th 2007 85056 posts
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33. "Kyrie was blocking and deflecting like Neo in The Matrix." In response to Reply # 28
shit was a clinic man. i see why athletes just stick to the cliches man. Screamin A and them couldn't handle that it could just be as simple as it actually is.
47. "RE: Kyrie was blocking and deflecting like Neo in The Matrix." In response to Reply # 33
>“Why not?” Smith asked. > >“Why would I have to?” Irving replied. > >“If you don’t speak to somebody about it, they might take >it personally,” Smith said. > >“Yeah,” Irving agreed. > >“Do you care about that at all?” Smith asked. > >“No,” Irving said.
I saw a snippet of this exchange this morning and laughed so loud. I think I'm going to carve out sometime after work to watch this whole episode on YouTube. On some level, Kyrie clearly cares because he agreed to do this interview, but it's great that Kyrie clearly doesn't care what the majority of the public thinks about him wanting to get traded. I hope the awkwardness of the whole interview provides for some good laughs.
"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.
38. "Kyrie indeed came off as an arrogant...." In response to Reply # 0
....asshole, Kobe Mamba cliche.....But the truth is he doesn't owe shit to Bron James...
The only thing that matters is Kyrie proving that he can lead his own team. He has to prove that his play will elevate his teammates. He does that then everybody will shut the fuck up. He doesn't? Then we know what will happen next....
GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....
39. "nobody's gonna shut up. that's naive. " In response to Reply # 38
all you w=can do is try to win a chip every year. bron is STILL seen by his haters as a choker who foldes under pressure. kobe is STILL seen as selfish. chris paul seen as a risk-averse loser. you pick the player and they got haters who still say the same wack shit no matter how much success they have.
41. "RE: nobody's gonna shut up. that's naive. " In response to Reply # 39 Tue Sep-19-17 07:10 PM by murph71
> >all you w=can do is try to win a chip every year. bron is >STILL seen by his haters as a choker who foldes under >pressure. kobe is STILL seen as selfish. chris paul seen as a >risk-averse loser. you pick the player and they got haters who >still say the same wack shit no matter how much success they >have.
Winning >>>> Hate...
As much as I hate Kobe, he has led his team to wins and chips....Same with Bron....Leading your team means that you can be a known asshole (see Jordan) and it's water under the bridge. It also covers up your flaws (as it has done with Bron James...The only people still screaming that he is a choker r Skip Bayless, NBA fans of the opposing teams of the Cavs in the Central Division, and fat trolls.....)
Like I said, Kyrie can say whatever he wants. He's a grown man....Just be prepared to back it up....
GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....
42. "well "elevate his teammates" isn't exactly concrete" In response to Reply # 41
they can make the damn nba finals and if he misses a wide open hayward on a series-changing possession, then what? he ain't make his teammates better. that's what haters LIVE for.
hell, i know i do. one play. adrian peterson whole career is some playoffs fumbles, as far as i'm concerned. some niggas love hyping those two losses to the giants to shit on brady.
like i said, nothing will change. if YOU feel different, that's cool.
46. "to all those saying "bron did the same thing"" In response to Reply # 0
...not really. Bron was a free agent and kept his commitment to both Cleveland and Miami. Ky aws not a free agent and forced hands to accommodate him with this - so that is a distinctive difference.
At the end of the day I always support players exercising their free agency - even when under contract. Bron carried to cross for moves like these and that's why he's not mad at it - but Ky definitely put himself first in this situation and was not comfortable finishing up the contractual commitment. That's his right but it is diff. than how Bron left.
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