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""Why is this Pelly so heavy?" - 2017-18 New Orleans Pelicans post"


  

          

The best Power Forward in the Game? Check

The best Center in the Game? Check

The best passer of his generation? Check

The best Holiday of the Holidays? Check

Let's play some ball.

The season can't start soon enough.

Sure this team isn't stat nerd/hoops blogger friendly... but it's gonna work.

Do they still need to make another move? Sure. It'll work itself out during the season.

Tony Allen just jumped on board.

Even Darius has come back from Germany to join the party.

This squad as it stands will make the playoffs. And should make the 2nd round.

Alvin needs to get on his job and make it work.

The pick and rolls are gonna be lovely. The lobs are gonna be often. I'm looking forward to see how the defense looks.

Of course health is a major concern, as this team doesn't have depth.

This squad is Tier One League Pass priority for me. And I'm gonna enjoy every last bit of this season.

It should be better than when I got souped about Rondo on the Kings, but George Karl shitted on the season.

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I'm on board.
Sep 13th 2017
1
Yeah I love the Tony pick-up.
Sep 13th 2017
3
This should be a fun post for a variety of reasons this season.
Sep 13th 2017
2
I see them anywhere from 3 to 6.
Sep 13th 2017
4
      i think 5/6 is their ceiling
Sep 13th 2017
7
           That's fair.
Sep 13th 2017
8
           should be better rather than will be...but yeah.
Sep 14th 2017
12
           Same. I think 7 seed is a realistic prediction
Sep 14th 2017
16
They have no backcourt shooting though...
Sep 13th 2017
5
Adding Rondo doesn't make everyone else shoot worse, lol.
Sep 14th 2017
15
Rondo is an average 3 pt shooter.
Sep 14th 2017
20
      defenses don't respect him tho.
Sep 14th 2017
21
           Yeah, I don't think it's a coincidence that his best 3P% season...
Sep 14th 2017
22
           right his 3 point attempts are basically all uncontested jimmys
Sep 14th 2017
23
           Stands to reason Gentry will make him
Sep 14th 2017
24
           As long as he makes the right play, it's irrelevant.
Sep 14th 2017
27
I want them to do well but i see more things going wrong then right.
Sep 13th 2017
6
If they miss the playoffs, anyone giving passes on OKS is a pure hoe
Sep 13th 2017
9
Also...fair
Sep 14th 2017
10
Reading in between the lines here
Sep 14th 2017
11
i'd like to see them succeed, but i have my doubts.
Sep 14th 2017
13
yeah i'm here. i want it to work. but i just don't know.
Sep 14th 2017
14
they aint gonna do shit
Sep 14th 2017
17
Is the fryer pre-heating for Alvin, or just on stand-by?
Sep 14th 2017
18
He's too hard to evaluate due to injuries and terrible Demps moves, imo
Sep 14th 2017
19
He's a black coach he's always in the frying pan.
Sep 14th 2017
25
      Fact
Oct 29th 2017
30
      New Orleans has had almost exclusively black coaches
Jan 09th 2018
41
too bad they couldn't get a Korver or a Reddick
Sep 14th 2017
26
yeah but the price was prohibitively high for them on both those guys
Jan 09th 2018
40
Pels!
Oct 28th 2017
28
Smooge still smoog'n. 10/13, 24 pts vs Cavs
Oct 29th 2017
29
8-6 and Rondo came back tonight.
Nov 13th 2017
31
are the pelicans maximizing cousins?
Dec 27th 2017
32
They fucking suck
Jan 07th 2018
33
the FO, easily.
Jan 07th 2018
34
Hmmm this is odd. Well we had last night. Go Pistons!
Jan 09th 2018
36
lmao how dominant can one be while losing consistently?
Jan 09th 2018
43
      When was Sheed ever the best player of anything?
Jan 09th 2018
44
           your guy's a loser. period.
Jan 13th 2018
46
                So you were wrong and have nothing to back it up with?
Jan 13th 2018
47
                     did you want to argue that sheed wasnt the blazers best player?
Jan 13th 2018
50
                     I’m gonna argue that a nigga averaging 15 & 7 as a big....
Jan 13th 2018
52
                          most minutes and leading scorer on a team that won 2 playoff series
Jan 13th 2018
55
                               You said most minutes! Lmao!
Jan 13th 2018
58
                                    playoffs nm
Jan 13th 2018
59
                                         Most minutes!
Jan 14th 2018
65
                     and lol @ bringing up Drummond
Jan 13th 2018
51
                          Woooooah well blow me away. He made the playoffs in the east.
Jan 13th 2018
53
                               LMAO so the "rough and tumble" bottom of the West is the problem?
Jan 13th 2018
56
                                    And got swept. And just got sonned by Boogie this week.
Jan 13th 2018
57
                                         playoffs nm
Jan 14th 2018
60
                                              The proof is always right in front of you bro.
Jan 14th 2018
66
RE: the FO, easily.
Jan 10th 2018
45
The underachieving 26-16 Wolves?
Jan 09th 2018
35
Lol you mad
Jan 14th 2018
61
how exactly have the wolves underachieved?
Jan 09th 2018
37
they were underachieving at the moment I made the comment
Jan 14th 2018
62
      Lolz
Jan 14th 2018
63
The Wolves are currently the 4 seed, WTF were you expecting?
Jan 09th 2018
38
The Wolves are currently the 4 seed, WTF were you expecting?
Jan 09th 2018
39
      I TRIED TO TOLD EM CHUCK
Jan 09th 2018
42
           Lolz @ bball is 2 on 2 now?
Jan 13th 2018
48
                man...
Jan 14th 2018
64
Whats up with rondo...alotta nights he only playing 20 mins
Jan 13th 2018
49
I can’t call it bruh.
Jan 13th 2018
54
48/17 - fuck a unicorn
Jan 14th 2018
67
AD took a royal shit on the Celtics tonight.
Jan 16th 2018
68

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1. "I'm on board."
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Tony Allen is a great pickup for leadership and grit. And I am completely rooting for Gentry to gel it together...just because I think he's doing a bad job doesn't mean I don't want him to succeed. I just want a season of 80% injury uptime or better. The frontcourt depth is too poor for any less than that.
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3. "Yeah I love the Tony pick-up."
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None of the key players can miss extended time or this shit falls a part.

It should be exciting.

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2. "This should be a fun post for a variety of reasons this season."
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Just out of curiosity, what seed do you see the Pelicans getting in the playoffs and who do you see them upsetting since you have them making the second rounds? That is unless you actually have them being a top four seed in the West.


If you have them being a top four seed in the West, how high a grade is that bluegrass you are smoking, sir?

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4. "I see them anywhere from 3 to 6."
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The only teams that should be better the Warriors and Rockets. After that, it's up in the air. So they're in the mix with the Wolves, Spurs and Thunder.

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7. "i think 5/6 is their ceiling"
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Dubs, Rox, Spurs, OKC and Minny will be better.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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8. "That's fair. "
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12. "should be better rather than will be...but yeah."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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16. "Same. I think 7 seed is a realistic prediction"
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And it would also be reasonable to predict them as out of the playoffs.
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5. "They have no backcourt shooting though..."
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15. "Adding Rondo doesn't make everyone else shoot worse, lol."
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It's true that there are no snipers back there, especially with Ryan Anderson long gone. But Jrue is an underrated shooter imo, and Crawford can light it up in spurts. If anything, they could use a stretch guy/3 point specialist like Anderson, Morrow, etc. I don't think shooting is terribly lacking at guard.
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20. "Rondo is an average 3 pt shooter. "
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21. "defenses don't respect him tho."
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it's not really a matter of his percentage (which has increased over the last 2 1/2 seasons). he only attempts 1 or 2 a game so the impact of his actual shooting is negligible.


what's more significant is the fact that he has no gravitational pull in terms of drawing a defender out to the line to space the floor and keep the defense honest. teams still continue to ignore him out there and pack the paint, making it harder for their inside guys.

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22. "Yeah, I don't think it's a coincidence that his best 3P% season..."
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... came the same time as his worst 2P% season, lol. Defenses are saying "cool, shoot the 3. We're good on the rest." Rondo ain't taking those 3s enough to make up for the Pelicans' lack of distance shooting.

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23. "right his 3 point attempts are basically all uncontested jimmys"
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they gon keep letting him shoot them until he starts making em pay more than once per game.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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24. "Stands to reason Gentry will make him"
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up those attempts since he's a big fan of the three ball and all.




That is unless Gentry and Rondo clash for some reason, which is of course possible since Rondo has clash with his head coaches in the past.

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27. "As long as he makes the right play, it's irrelevant."
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If you're wide open, shoot. If there is a better play, make it.

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6. "I want them to do well but i see more things going wrong then right."
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They should be in the playoffs tho if everyone stays healthy.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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9. "If they miss the playoffs, anyone giving passes on OKS is a pure hoe"
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10. "Also...fair"
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11. "Reading in between the lines here"
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it seems as if you think it's a disappointment if this team doesn't make the playoffs.

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13. "i'd like to see them succeed, but i have my doubts."
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ian clark could be big for them. they need shooting bad.

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14. "yeah i'm here. i want it to work. but i just don't know."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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17. "they aint gonna do shit"
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18. "Is the fryer pre-heating for Alvin, or just on stand-by?"
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19. "He's too hard to evaluate due to injuries and terrible Demps moves, imo"
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25. "He's a black coach he's always in the frying pan."
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30. "Fact"
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41. "New Orleans has had almost exclusively black coaches"
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Kinda hard to play that card there.

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26. "too bad they couldn't get a Korver or a Reddick"
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40. "yeah but the price was prohibitively high for them on both those guys"
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i agree they need someone like that to space the floor but reddick at $20M they couldnt match and a first for korver wouldnt have been a good look either

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28. "Pels!"
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29. "Smooge still smoog'n. 10/13, 24 pts vs Cavs"
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31. "8-6 and Rondo came back tonight. "
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Let's keep up the momentum.

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32. "are the pelicans maximizing cousins?"
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The Center Cannot Hold: Are the Pelicans Maximizing DeMarcus Cousins?
Boogie, one half of New Orleans’s fearsome Twin Towers, has been having a career season. But the Pels’ defense craters when he isn’t playing alongside his partner. There’s a way to fix that.
By Jonathan Tjarks Dec 27, 2017, 8:25am EST

DeMarcus Cousins and the Pelicans are at a crossroads. New Orleans is stuck in the middle of the pack in the Western Conference, hanging on to the no. 8 seed with a 17–16 record, and Cousins will be an unrestricted free agent this summer. Anthony Davis is starting to grumble, and the only thing worse than trading the best teammate Davis has ever had would be watching him walk for nothing. As the calendar flips to 2018 and the February trade deadline gets closer, the Pelicans have to find an answer to the dilemma that has plagued Cousins his entire career: how to translate his eye-popping individual stats into team success.

New Orleans has been running in place since it acquired Cousins at the last trade deadline. The Pelicans’ statistical profile has turned 180 degrees over the past 10 months. They went from having the no. 26 offense and the no. 9 defense last season to the no. 7 offense and the no. 24 defense this season. The numbers started to change after the Cousins trade. Their offensive rating was three points higher in the last 25 games of the season, while their defensive rating worsened by a point. The transformation is now complete. New Orleans is a more talented version of the teams Cousins played on in Sacramento. The Kings had a top-20 defense exactly once in his seven years there, and it was in Cousins’s rookie season.

Cousins is the common denominator in a long line of bad defenses. A clear picture of what’s going on emerges when you separate out his playing time from Davis. Alvin Gentry staggers the minutes of his two star big men so that one is almost always in the game. The Pelicans have played only 147 minutes without either Davis or Cousins in. There are essentially three versions of the team: the lineups in which Davis and Cousins play together, the ones where Davis plays without Cousins, and the ones where Cousins plays without Davis. Almost all of their defensive issues come when Cousins is by himself:

Pelicans Lineup Efficiency
Lineups | Minutes | Offensive Rating | Defensive Rating | Net Rating

Cousins and Davis | 690 | 107.6 | 104.3 | Plus-3.3
Davis w/o Cousins | 292 | 109.9 | 100.9 | Plus-9.1
Cousins w/o Davis | 471 | 108.2 | 112.9 | Minus-4.7

Cousins has been on the floor for 76.4 percent of the minutes Davis hasn’t played, and those are the minutes that are killing New Orleans. Their defensive rating goes from 103.2 with Davis, which would be no. 7 in the league, to 113.9 without him, which would be the worst by a margin of 4.4 points. The difference between the Pelicans without Davis and the Kings, the no. 30 defense in the NBA, is the same as the difference between the Kings and the no. 15 defense.

For as much as it seems like Cousins and Davis are playing two-on-five on many nights, offense is not the problem in New Orleans. Cousins, Davis, and Jrue Holiday are all averaging at least 18 points per game, and the Pelicans are second in the league in assists per game (26.4) and top-five in 3-point percentage (38.4 percent). They just aren’t getting enough stops, and the easiest solution is to stop asking Cousins to get them.

Cousins is a 27-year-old in his eighth season in the league. He may never figure it out completely on defense. He has gotten better since his rookie season, when he averaged 1.1 blocks and 5.2 personal fouls per 36 minutes of playing time, but his progress on that end of the floor has stalled. There are some things he can do well. He can be a good individual defender: According to the tracking numbers at Synergy Sports, Cousins is in the 77th percentile when guarding isolations, and in the 83rd percentile when defending post-ups. What he can’t do, at least not consistently, is cover for his teammates.

Cousins has been miscast as a traditional center. He has the size (6-foot-11 and 270 pounds with a 7-foot-4 wingspan) and bruising low post-game of one, but he has neither the lateral agility nor the desire to anchor a defense. He doesn’t have the same margin for error on that side of the ball as Davis, who can stay in front of guards at the 3-point line and rotate across the court to block a shot in the blink of an eye. Cousins has to be fully engaged to get himself in the right position to make a play, and there are too many situations when he isn’t.

The Pelicans’ 130–123 loss to the Rockets on December 11, which Davis missed with a groin injury, is a perfect example. New Orleans played four 3-point shooters around Cousins, allowing him to pick apart the Houston defense. He finished with eight assists, while the Pelicans went 54.5 percent from 3, hitting a franchise-high 18 shots from deep. It was one of the best offensive performances in team history, but it doesn’t matter how many points you score if you give up even more. Cousins was caught in no-man’s-land trying to guard the pick-and-roll: He was dropping back to protect the paint without actually protecting the paint. He wasn’t really guarding anyone at all, and the result was a layup line for Clint Capela, who had 28 points on 13-for-14 shooting. The tape from this game is a cry for help. All these plays were just in the first half:

https://youtu.be/y8YZcDVVCEY

Cousins is not the only traditional big man who struggles against the Rockets, who spread the floor as well as any team in the league. However, he has had trouble guarding the pick-and-roll regardless of who he’s facing. He’s in the 41st percentile when defending the ball handler in the two-man game, and in the 37th percentile when defending the roll man.

Cousins isn’t a minus defensively in every situation. He just needs to play with someone who can protect the rim, which is why his partnership with Davis is so interesting. When Davis is patrolling the back side of a play, Cousins can be a little more aggressive, knowing there is someone behind him who can protect him. For the first time in his career, Cousins is playing with someone who can clean up the messes he creates instead of being responsible for cleaning up the ones his teammates make. Watch how Cousins extends out on Steph Curry for a half second on a ball screen, knowing that Davis will cut off Zaza Pachulia as the help-side defender:

https://tinyurl.com/y9wv3yed

Cousins is one of the most polarizing players in the league. His attitude and on-court antics have always been blamed for his team’s failures, but the underlying problem may have been that he was playing out of position. A center’s most important job is on defense, and no team with Cousins at center has ever been able to play any. He is a combo forward trapped in the body of a center. Defenses have to respect him on the perimeter: He is shooting 35.3 percent from 3 on 6.2 attempts a game. Just because a 5 can shoot doesn’t mean he can play the 4, but Cousins has a complete offensive arsenal: He can put the ball on the floor, shoot off the dribble, and make plays on the move. He’s a rumbling locomotive who can grab a rebound and go coast-to-coast, and he can catch-and-shoot 3s as easily as he can bulldoze his way to the rim.

When the Pelicans traded for Cousins, they were bucking the leaguewide trend toward small ball. Pairing two traditional big men together almost never works anymore, but Cousins and Davis are the furthest thing from traditional. Twin Towers lineups can succeed when both 7-footers are as multidimensional as those two. The reason New Orleans is still stuck in a rut is what happens when they go smaller: Cousins can’t handle the defensive responsibilities that come with being the only player his size on the floor. Instead of asking him to carry offensive-minded players on defense, the Pelicans should see if he can carry defensive-minded players on offense. The only thing left for them to do is to double down even more on big lineups.

One option would be to pair Cousins with one of their other centers when Davis is out, although both have flaws. Omer Asik missed the first month of the season after being diagnosed with Crohn’s disease, and he has played only 75 minutes since returning in mid-November. Asik can’t score in an empty gym, and his block rate has steadily declined over the last six seasons. Cheick Diallo, a second-round pick in 2016, has played only 323 minutes in the NBA. Diallo is an athletic big man with a 7-foot-4 wingspan who had a 11.9 percent block rate in college, but he may be too inexperienced to anchor a defense.

The other option would be to play Cousins and Davis more together, and let Holiday anchor the second unit with Asik or Diallo as the center. Holiday is having a career season, averaging 18 points and 5.4 assists a game on 48.5 percent shooting. According to NBA.com, the Pelicans have an offensive rating of 117.5 in the 73 minutes he has played without Davis or Cousins. In the 50 minutes Asik has played with Holiday, New Orleans has a net rating of plus-28.5. Those numbers would go down in a bigger sample size, but the Pelicans wouldn’t need much from those lineups. They just have to find a way to stop bleeding points when Davis is out.

New Orleans doesn’t have to make major changes to make noise in the postseason. The Western Conference is wide open after Houston and Golden State; the Pelicans just need to avoid the bottom-two seeds in the playoff standings. Even a matchup with San Antonio shouldn’t frighten them: The Spurs play two traditional big men for most of the game, too, and they wouldn’t be able to attack Cousins and Davis on defense in the same way as the Rockets or the Warriors. The Pelicans beat the Spurs by 17 in a game in November, albeit without facing Kawhi Leonard. New Orleans doesn’t have to solve all its problems this season. It just needs to show some progress to keep Cousins in town long term.

It would be a shame if the partnership between Davis and Cousins broke up because of what happens when Cousins is by himself. Davis is the perfect frontcourt partner for Cousins. He can space the floor and play high-low on offense, while also being able to protect the rim and guard smaller and faster 4s on the perimeter. If Cousins doesn’t stay in New Orleans, his new team should have a unicorn of their own, and they should keep him far away from the center position. It’s the closest thing there is to a solution to the DeMarcus Cousins dilemma.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2017/12/27/16820018/demarcus-cousins-pelicans-anthony-davis

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33. "They fucking suck"
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Underachieving Wolves completely annihilated them, coming of an end of a back-to-back, after being outclassed in Boston the previous night. And Pels we're well rested too.

I mean the Wolves were begging them to make a run in the 4th and the Pelicans just refused to. They are so bad in every aspect of the game, it's mind-bogging.

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34. "the FO, easily. "
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Boogie is a career loser who will win nothing unless he gets a parallel "Sheed to Detroit" trade. and i say parellel but the reality is that Boogie is way more malignant than Sheed ever was, and Sheed had a preternatural understanding of team ball to work with.

the Pelicans need to get him gone and get back some wing help and some secondary ballhandling, wven if its 60¢ on the dollar talent wise.

dude is a loser, flat out, and the organization is wasting Davis's early prime on him. If im Davis, im ready to walk soon.

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36. "Hmmm this is odd. Well we had last night. Go Pistons!"
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But Boogie is also more dominant than Sheed has ever been. So miss me with that bullshit.

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43. "lmao how dominant can one be while losing consistently?"
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and sheed actually won some playoff series as his team's best player. cousins will retire without that honor.

dude is an anchor around Davis's neck and was lucky to even be in the game in the 2nd half

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44. "When was Sheed ever the best player of anything? "
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And basketball is a team game.

But sure, tell me more about how your cantankerous ornery, unfulfilled talent, never averaging a double double PF/C is great.

He was lucky to be in the game and beat the shit out of your bullshit squad. Finish the sentence.

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46. "your guy's a loser. period. "
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dude cant even reach the level of "playoff disappointment" as he approaches 30.

sorry bout it.

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47. "So you were wrong and have nothing to back it up with?"
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Just be mad he hung that L on your bullshit squad.

Maybe George the Animal Steel shoulders should focus on his skills and he’d be great like Boogie too.

(He can’t cuz he’s an average big doofus Center)

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50. "did you want to argue that sheed wasnt the blazers best player?"
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because that would be absurd and he was a western conference finalist twice by 25

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52. "I’m gonna argue that a nigga averaging 15 & 7 as a big...."
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is never the best anything.

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55. "most minutes and leading scorer on a team that won 2 playoff series"
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holla when that applies to boogie

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58. "You said most minutes! Lmao! "
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Argue that 16 & 7?

Holla at me when he ever averaged a double double. Even a small one like 12 & 10.

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59. "playoffs nm"
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65. "Most minutes!"
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51. "and lol @ bringing up Drummond"
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a player about to make his second playoffs as a team's best player, and also only 25

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53. "Woooooah well blow me away. He made the playoffs in the east."
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And to get swept?

Cuz he’s trash.

Just like you though Reggie Jackson was as good as John Wall and he’s fucking trash.

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56. "LMAO so the "rough and tumble" bottom of the West is the problem?"
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lolololololololololol

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57. "And got swept. And just got sonned by Boogie this week."
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Yet you still barking.

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60. "playoffs nm"
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66. "The proof is always right in front of you bro. "
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45. "RE: the FO, easily. "
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35. "The underachieving 26-16 Wolves? "
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Nigga you sound dumb as shit. FOH

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61. "Lol you mad"
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I don't blame you

If them Pels miss the playoffs... ohhhhhh boyyyy

I can already smell that good frying

And they are gonna miss the playoffs, they play like trash:

- Just mentally weak and not ready
- Gentry may be the worst coach of all time when it's all said and done
- Unbalanced roster
- Rondo washed
- Boogie being Boogie
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37. "how exactly have the wolves underachieved?"
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the narrative surrounding that team this season is so strange to me. they're by far the most improved team in the league. but every time i see any of the pundits discussing them, it's in negative terms.

i don't know what more ppl want.

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62. "they were underachieving at the moment I made the comment"
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Dropped two straight to Brooklyn and Boston

Since then...

Hot fiya

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Dropped two straight to Brooklyn and Boston

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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38. "The Wolves are currently the 4 seed, WTF were you expecting?"
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That said, the Pelicans continue to be unimpressive. They have two established "superstars" and are right there with a very young Nuggets team while barely fending off Utah and the Clippers, two teams who first lost their best players in the offseason and then proceeded to get demolished by injuries. In the words of Derrick Coleman, whooptydamndooooooooo

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39. "The Wolves are currently the 4 seed, WTF were you expecting?"
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That said, the Pelicans continue to be unimpressive. They have two established "superstars" and are right there with a very young Nuggets team while barely fending off Utah and the Clippers, two teams who first lost their best players in the offseason and then proceeded to get demolished by injuries. In the words of Derrick Coleman, whooptydamndooooooooo

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42. "I TRIED TO TOLD EM CHUCK"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2619892&mesg_id=2619892&listing_type=search#2619926

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48. "Lolz @ bball is 2 on 2 now?"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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64. "man..."
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i said the clipps were better than NO and niggas acted like i was nuts.

meanwhile, they got the same fucking record, with bev / gallo / blake / austin / teodosic missing most of the goddamn season.

smfh.

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49. "Whats up with rondo...alotta nights he only playing 20 mins"
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other nights he got 20 assists.

What gives?

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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54. "I can’t call it bruh."
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Some nights he doesn’t have it defensively or they’re trying to preserve his legs

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67. "48/17 - fuck a unicorn"
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68. "AD took a royal shit on the Celtics tonight."
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