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KiloMcG
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"2017 Washington Football Team Post "


  

          

Cmon, DC fans, let's not fall all the way off.

Didn't look good week 1. Kurt is not the answer, and definitely not worth the money he thinks he is.

We'll be 8-8 at best. What say you?

  

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We're staring down the barrel of an 0-4 start
Sep 13th 2017
1
0-4 is in play...
Sep 13th 2017
2
      that that cross country trip isn't going to help us any
Sep 15th 2017
3
well how about that...
Sep 18th 2017
4
they tried to blow it
Sep 18th 2017
5
      i couldn't just sit and watch it that intently. there was a lot going
Sep 18th 2017
6
           Pryor is a practice phenom
Sep 18th 2017
8
                losing Garcon was bigger than losing DJack.
Sep 18th 2017
10
                if Pryor had Garcon's hands he'd be AJ Green
Sep 18th 2017
11
Nice to see the run game work
Sep 18th 2017
7
Indeed...
Sep 18th 2017
9
      aside from a shitty pre season, he's supposed to be a better version
Sep 18th 2017
12
           Supposedly
Sep 18th 2017
13
When did the D learn to tackle?
Sep 24th 2017
14
That was a thorough ass kicking in all phases
Sep 24th 2017
15
The LBs look legit
Sep 24th 2017
16
Someone help me out.... What team was I just watching??
Sep 24th 2017
17
Lol for real
Sep 25th 2017
18
Week to week league. Week to week team
Sep 25th 2017
19
      if they can play with this kind of focus and attitude consistently...
Sep 25th 2017
20
the fuck got into VD?? he looked washed as FUCK in Denver.
Sep 25th 2017
21
a lot of great HGH
Sep 25th 2017
22
he was great last year too
Sep 25th 2017
23
think we can keep the momentum going tonight?
Oct 02nd 2017
24
if we win I'll believe we're actually good
Oct 02nd 2017
25
Huge test
Oct 02nd 2017
26
gutsy performance
Oct 02nd 2017
27
Doctson needs to "Pro Up"
Oct 02nd 2017
28
this is his first season with actual healthy playing time
Oct 02nd 2017
29
      Nah. Throw the whole receiver away. lol.
Oct 03rd 2017
30
      lol.
Oct 03rd 2017
32
      You're obviously right, I'm just blown.
Oct 03rd 2017
31
Chiefs game pros and cons:
Oct 03rd 2017
33
I realized something during this game
Oct 03rd 2017
34
      Kirk has definitely grown a lot.
Oct 03rd 2017
35
           yeah
Oct 03rd 2017
36
           Honestly, tonight it was Preston Smith and Breeland
Oct 03rd 2017
37
All Doctson had to do was control it.....Ugggghhhh!!!
Oct 03rd 2017
38
Doctson played it really well too
Oct 03rd 2017
39
Think there will be fallout from Reed?
Oct 03rd 2017
40
      not unless Reed chooses to be an ass about it.
Oct 03rd 2017
41
the penalties on 3rd down cost us more than that drop.
Oct 03rd 2017
42
HTTR
Oct 15th 2017
43
Garcon is so special
Oct 15th 2017
44
      bc he's not nearly as good as those players
Oct 16th 2017
45
Clutch by Kirk (!)
Oct 16th 2017
46
How we feeling ya'll for Monday Night Football?
Oct 22nd 2017
47
everyone is ready to anoint the Eagles
Oct 23rd 2017
48
they're due for a L. it's gonna be a close game, hopefully.
Oct 23rd 2017
49
if the defense has fallen off
Oct 23rd 2017
50
Not sure why Jordan Reed gets any snaps over V Davis
Oct 23rd 2017
51
Reed seems more dynamic, but there has to be a way to play both at once
Oct 24th 2017
52
      He's a good RZ target
Oct 24th 2017
55
Pitiful. Kurt kurted right on cue.
Oct 24th 2017
53
I mean, he got hit as he threw
Oct 24th 2017
54
      yeah the pick was definitely because he got hit.
Oct 24th 2017
56
           Kirk is good not great
Oct 24th 2017
57
                i agree with everything you just typed
Oct 24th 2017
58
                With players like Kirk, Joe Flacco, and even Matt Ryan
Oct 24th 2017
59
                     Kirk is both not special and not the problem with the offense
Oct 24th 2017
60
                          I can't believe I am saying this
Oct 24th 2017
61
                          There was no way to pay Garcon and DJax
Oct 25th 2017
62
                               both, no. But I would've kept Garcon
Oct 25th 2017
64
The four good offensive linemen are all injured as shit
Oct 25th 2017
63
sorry ass receivers, injuries, and rain
Oct 29th 2017
65
Really disappointed in Doctson today
Oct 30th 2017
66
A for effort
Oct 30th 2017
67
I can't get over these injuries
Oct 30th 2017
68
The injuries are killing the team.
Nov 01st 2017
69
      I don't necessarily believe in curses....
Nov 02nd 2017
70
           Yeah that's really what I'm talking about.
Nov 02nd 2017
71
                I strongly agree.
Nov 02nd 2017
72
                     i know, how shitty.
Nov 02nd 2017
73
                          I know we all know this but
Nov 02nd 2017
74
                               Ugh, I know..... Damnit
Nov 03rd 2017
75
DOCTSON CAUGHT ONE.
Nov 05th 2017
76
the signature Cousins/Gruden win
Nov 05th 2017
77
      i almost couldn't believe what i was watching there at the end.
Nov 06th 2017
84
Seattle's field goal kicker lost this game
Nov 05th 2017
78
Defense and a timely drive by Kirk & Co won this game.
Nov 05th 2017
79
      say what you want
Nov 06th 2017
80
           Still would be less than 20 points
Nov 06th 2017
81
So Fat Rob and Perine just aren't very good, right?
Nov 06th 2017
82
they're not
Nov 06th 2017
83
Worst defense....
Nov 12th 2017
85
didn't watch, was surprised how garbage it looked
Nov 13th 2017
86
i didn't watch either, had other shit going on yesterday afternoon
Nov 13th 2017
88
      lol same
Nov 13th 2017
89
linebackers and, especially, Josh Norman were awful
Nov 13th 2017
87
      Thielen is good but damn. Unexpected.
Nov 13th 2017
90
      I can't blame this game on Norman, even as awful as he played.
Nov 14th 2017
91

Tiger Woods
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1. "We're staring down the barrel of an 0-4 start"
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Lose Sunday and it's a wrap.
5-11 is in play.

The main thing I kept thinking watching that game Sunday is "what did you guys do all Summer?"

  

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2. "0-4 is in play..."
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We were given a layup with the Philly game but blew it. They better show up or its going to get ugly quickly! I think the Rams are ripe for the taking because they flying high after whipping a Colts team that is TURRIBLE (Barkley voice) however, they gotta play!

  

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3. "that that cross country trip isn't going to help us any"
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i dunno, yall. i'm not real hopeful for a positive season this year.

  

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4. "well how about that..."
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i thought for sure they were gonna blow it again yesterday. honestly surprised it was a W.

  

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5. "they tried to blow it"
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When the score was 10-0 and we were at their 4 and threw two consecutive fade routes, I thought we were done! We had just run the ball down their throats but start throwing fades to Doctson who seem to be the ONLY route they trust him to run. But we held on...tough game next week.

  

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6. "i couldn't just sit and watch it that intently. there was a lot going"
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on at my house during that time Haha. and i was a little lit off tequila, but anyways...

what is up with Pryor?

  

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8. "Pryor is a practice phenom"
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But hard to figure on game day. He doesnt seem to 'fit' the offense meaning his natural movements seem out of sync with what they want him to do. Garcon (who they should have signed) was a fit, quickly in and out of breaks, tough and could catch in traffic Pryor is slow in and out and drops too many passes, especially in traffic. If this is a contract year and he is starting out like this!?!?

  

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10. "losing Garcon was bigger than losing DJack. "
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he catches pretty much everything thrown to him. my not get a ton of YAC, but he makes catches.

too bad about Pryor so far. i was happy we had a bigger receiver to target, we haven't had that in a long time. gotta make catches.

  

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11. "if Pryor had Garcon's hands he'd be AJ Green"
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7. "Nice to see the run game work"
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I only caught parts of the game.

  

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9. "Indeed..."
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But Fat Rob got cracked ribs so we gonna see what we got in Perine.

  

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12. "aside from a shitty pre season, he's supposed to be a better version"
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right?

  

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13. "Supposedly"
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He struggled in the first half, it was his first pro carries but did better in the second as the went to some zone read plays (which he ran at Oklahoma). I think with some more reps in practice he'll be fine. Especially with Thompson being as explosive as he is...we dont need him wearing down so Perine is going to get carries.

  

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14. "When did the D learn to tackle?"
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They made their hits stick.

Chris Thompson went off. And there was a rare Doctson sighting.

<-- Dave Thomas knows what's up...
__________________________

Jay: Look here homie, any nigga can get a hit record. This here is about respect.
Game: Like Gladys Knight.
Jay: Aretha Franklin.
Game: Word, I like her too.
Jay: Nigga...

  

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15. "That was a thorough ass kicking in all phases"
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Man that was a joy to watch.

Chris Thompson man.

Defense could not have played better. Brutally physical end to end and did not fatigue. Holding Oakland to a field goal late in the game after the PI call proved to me that these guys actually do have some heart. These tackles looked like they hurt dude.

  

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16. "The LBs look legit"
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Fewest yards allowed by the team since 1991.

  

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17. "Someone help me out.... What team was I just watching??"
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18. "Lol for real"
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19. "Week to week league. Week to week team"
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This weeks Washington team looked promising on both sides of the ball (and without starting RB or TE). Will it hold next week at KC? Who knows. But the potential is definitely there.

When Lynch was slammed to the ground to prevent getting the 1st down, that was a sign the game was going to be something different...

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20. "if they can play with this kind of focus and attitude consistently..."
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...anything is in play.

For as messy as the offseason got, there's no denying how much better this defense is. Under Gruden we've consistently questioned what this team's "identity" was. But maybe they're finally realizing it, maybe they're determined to be physical-first on both sides of the ball.

  

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21. "the fuck got into VD?? he looked washed as FUCK in Denver."
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wait...y'all goin to Oklahoma???

You can raise a child in a house full of love
but, can't keep him safe in a world full of hate - Oddisee

  

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22. "a lot of great HGH"
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23. "he was great last year too"
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I don't know what was going on in DEN but he's still got speed.

  

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24. "think we can keep the momentum going tonight?"
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i think we're gonna have a tough time getting the offense going. Oakland doesn't exactly have great D, KC does. and it's at Arrowhead.

i'm not sure i'm gonna make it to the end unless somehow we're still in it.

  

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25. "if we win I'll believe we're actually good"
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26. "Huge test"
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no idea what to expect

  

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27. "gutsy performance"
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within inches of winning it after 2/3rds of the defense went out injured, against the only undefeated team.

  

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28. "Doctson needs to "Pro Up""
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Thus far, your first round receiver toy has played about 5 games, caught one TD, and lost a game. Until he does something special again, Doctson's reputation will be "he blew the Chiefs game in 2017"

You've got an in grown toe nail? Practice through it dogg.

  

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29. "this is his first season with actual healthy playing time"
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I've got patience for now.

  

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30. "Nah. Throw the whole receiver away. lol. "
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Throw Pryor away too.

Seriously though, I have slight concern for his long term potential if he keeps producing like this.

  

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32. "lol."
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this is a weird bridge season with the receivers

it was actually somewhat wise by Cerrato 2.0:

You had to let 88 and 11 walk, and take your lumps with two young, raw talents in order to spend the money elsewhere.

One of them will need to become a true #1 in 2018 though.

you know what's making it all work (besides Kirk not Kirking):

for the first time in almost 20 fucking years (not since Chris Samuels) they drafted a goddamn offensive line.

funny how that works.

  

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31. "You're obviously right, I'm just blown."
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Really feel like Kirk and defense deserved that one.

  

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33. "Chiefs game pros and cons:"
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Cons:
- We have no dynamic running backs. Several "guys". But watching Hunt for a full game was a revelation. Skins are talent depraved in the backfield. Perine especially may not be a pro.

- Lack of discipline from Preston Smith proved too costly in too many crucial spots. He has potential to be a special player. But committing the same penalty more than twice means it's a habit.

- Doctson blew it obviously. Hope he learns.

- lost seemingly half of the defensive starters. Hope they get healthy on bye


Pros:
- Cousins made plays and singlehandedly put them in position to win on last drive. A deserved criticism in years past was he can't improvise. He improvised down the stretch and got them where they needed to be. Masterful, shame it ended how it did.

- can't sufficiently describe my enthusiasm for this defense. Norman, Allen, Ionnidis, Kerrigan, and Swearinger in particular seem bloodthirsty. Would dread playing them if I were an opposing offense. They gassed early in the 3rd and still hung tough with a bunch of reserves chipping in. Such an inspired effort by them tonight and through last three weeks in general.

  

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34. "I realized something during this game"
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I no longer have a sneaking sense of dread of a turnover every time Kirk drops back.

I actually trust him to make plays most of the time.

  

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35. "Kirk has definitely grown a lot. "
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I am proud of him.

Gruden though, I'm still not sold. I hate undisciplined teams because you lose unnecessary games no matter how talented you are.

  

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36. "yeah"
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I wish there was some way to magically get him to accept the OC job.

He's a great OC, and not a great HC.

  

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37. "Honestly, tonight it was Preston Smith and Breeland "
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In all, I think the team seem poised. Maybe I'm wrong but I can't even recall a holding penalty

  

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38. "All Doctson had to do was control it.....Ugggghhhh!!!"
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Hopefully the kid won't let that happen, again. I'm sure Kirk has regrets throwing him the 50/50. It was perfectly thrown, though.

Also....the injuries too, young!! My gawd!! The bye couldn't have come at a better time. Man...

It takes all kinds to make up a world, son. -My pops

  

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39. "Doctson played it really well too"
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he had it until the defender (wisely) slammed down on top of him.

Doctson turned his body in mid air, secured the ball and put his other arm out. But when the defender fell on top of him it bounced out.

  

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40. "Think there will be fallout from Reed?"
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It takes all kinds to make up a world, son. -My pops

  

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41. "not unless Reed chooses to be an ass about it. "
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42. "the penalties on 3rd down cost us more than that drop."
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but that's typical skins ball. overall we looked good and could have won. just need more discipline on defense. it's hard to really complain about the defense because they are playing so cot damn well, but that shit on 3rd downs killed us.

some of the plays the D made were amazing. Norman ROCKING Kelce was fucking dope. and then the very next play Breeland came off that block and made a tackle out of nowhere. that shit was awesome.

but then we'd give it all right back and they scored TDs off the mistakes. smh.

and damnit i turned it off right after their winning kick. brushed my teeth and got in bed. looked on the phone checking the gram and shit and saw the final score of 29-20. i was so confused Haha. i hit my skins group text asking wtf happened, and they told me.

  

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43. "HTTR "
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Thought for sure we were gonna give it away again.

And I wish we still had Garcon.

  

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44. "Garcon is so special"
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how that guy hasn't made a half dozen pro bowls is beyond me. Talk about a PROFESSIONAL football player, he's the intersection of Anquan Boldin and Hines Ward - physical + great hands + incredible football IQ.

  

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45. "bc he's not nearly as good as those players"
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I love watching the guy play and he was great for WFC, but he just doesn't have the speed, quickness or route running of a guy like Boldin.

He puts up numbers with physicality, effort and attitude, and that's to his credit. But he was always a 2nd-tier WR, production-wise.

  

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46. "Clutch by Kirk (!)"
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Defense starting to show some warning signs though.

No pass rush from the 2nd quarter onwards, nearly catastrophic breakdowns in the secondary.

I like where the team is at, but only if the defense is better than it was yesterday.

  

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47. "How we feeling ya'll for Monday Night Football?"
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Kirk has yet to win a MNF game I think.

Norman bout to be out this game. Trent not 100% at all.

Defense is porous ya'll. Kirk gonna have to be Super Kirk.

What say you guys about it?

  

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48. "everyone is ready to anoint the Eagles"
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I just don't know that the Eagles are very good.

I think we keep it close.

  

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49. "they're due for a L. it's gonna be a close game, hopefully."
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if it's not a close one, then we have a problem.

  

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50. "if the defense has fallen off"
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this will be a tough game

  

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51. "Not sure why Jordan Reed gets any snaps over V Davis"
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Vernon is significantly better in almost all facets.

  

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52. "Reed seems more dynamic, but there has to be a way to play both at once "
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55. "He's a good RZ target"
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Davis seems better in nearly every facet.

  

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53. "Pitiful. Kurt kurted right on cue. "
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54. "I mean, he got hit as he threw"
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He was throwing into single coverage, it wasn't a bad read.

Eagles are the better team right now, Wentz is better than Cousins, and WFC's offensive line is walking wounded.

I thought the team played pretty well yesterday. Wentz's two houdini acts were unlucky/impressive. The PI call on third down in the end zone was total garbage and a huge call. And the two missed 3rd and ones were bad plays by Kirk and Gruden.

  

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56. "yeah the pick was definitely because he got hit."
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but how about those other occasions where he held onto the ball too damn long and took sacks?

and yeah, the Eagles are a better team. and our 3rd down play calling was classic skins shit.

and Kurt plays well at times, but not often enough or when it really counts to justify this notion that he has that he needs to be paid out the ass.

we need to move Pryor to DB. we wouldn't necessarily need him to catch the ball then, just get to it and knock it down like he's so good at doing. and our secondary is thin af right now. haha

  

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57. "Kirk is good not great"
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He would be hard to replace, but also if you pay him the $100M he's going to get next year, you know full well you're entering into a Joe Flacco situation.

It's a very hard call.



Pryor is just not a good WR.

And I like Ryan Grant but any throw that goes to Pryor or Grant needs to be going to Doctson. Get that dude as much exp as possible. That's on Gruden.

The third downs yesterday were bad football.

  

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58. "i agree with everything you just typed"
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such a frustrating existence being a WFC fan.

  

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59. "With players like Kirk, Joe Flacco, and even Matt Ryan"
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They need lots of talent around them to be great. Matt Ryan been super lucky with the talent and systems he has had around him, otherwise he'd be Philip Rivers.

Kirk needs a running game, badly. Gruden is not doing him any favors making him throw 40 times a game. The team needs a Brian Westbrook type RB but unfortunately, those type are not common.

  

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60. "Kirk is both not special and not the problem with the offense"
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I'd gladly overpay for a Matt Ryan. Most teams would, as most successful quarterbacks do need ample talent around them to be competitive. That's literally every quarterback in the league not named Brady, Rodgers, and Brees.

Which makes the decision to bank on Pryor and let Garcon and Desean go all the more confusing. Worse yet, we have a half dozen running backs on the team and none are NFL-starting caliber. It's as if they deliberately hindered Kirk's potential with his weapons.

How anyone could watch last night's game and pin the blame on Cousins is beyond me. He wasn't perfect, but boy did the run game suck, Pryor suck, and the playcalling suck.

  

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61. "I can't believe I am saying this"
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But if Kirk had the weapons now that Matt Ryan has had his whole career, we wouldn't be questioning his ability. (But I also really despise Matt Ryan and think he is super overrated so take that with a grain of salt if you must).

I do agree that the Front office nor Gruden has given Kirk much help.

Maybe this lack of a running game is from Morris. He cursed us! Shouldn't have left Morris or Darrel Young go.

PS: Gruden unfortunately is so pig headed that he doesn't realize that he really does need a Fullback for his running game to be the most effective. While none of his RBs have been of great talent, the O-Line is definitely not the best when it comes to opening holes for RBs either.

  

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62. "There was no way to pay Garcon and DJax"
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it was not an option

(unless they did something idiotic like cut Kirk with no replacement plan)

  

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64. "both, no. But I would've kept Garcon"
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63. "The four good offensive linemen are all injured as shit"
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This season might go to shit over injuries and the transition year of receivers, but the team shouldn't panic over it.

Keep Tommy Boy one more year. Try to sign Kirk (I guess?). DEVELOP DOCTSON. Maybe draft a RB (Perine and Kelly put in good effort, but neither are very talented). Let the OL heal.

Continue to try to improve the defense.

http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/33898/injuries-to-trent-williams-brandon-scherff-highlight-redskins-health-issues

Summary:

Trent Williams
A bad right knee that he said will require surgery to repair ligament damage whenever he stops playing this season.

Brandon Scherff
Grade 2 MCL sprain

Morgan Moses
two sprained ankles

Spencer Long
Knee/quad tendonitis, missed time in the last game

Bonus: starting-quality back up Ty Nsekhe has been out since week 3

  

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65. "sorry ass receivers, injuries, and rain"
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I can't call it on the turnovers, guys like Chris Thompson - and Zeke for that matter - never just cough the ball up. It was soaked out there today.

O-line was held together by scotch tape and volunteer firefighters.

I just don't get Doctson or Pryor man. At least in Doctson's case there may be hope - maybe all of these hugely costly fuck-ups by Doctson get filed away in his head and work towards making him better. The play is way too inconsistent, when he's targeted in a big spot he usually botches it somehow, either with a drop or by running the wrong route altogether. He has everything but the focus.

Pryor however is a lost cause and, even with that build, might be out of the league soon.


At Seattle next week to put the nail in this season's coffin.

  

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66. "Really disappointed in Doctson today"
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that drop was painful.

I keep yelling that he should be getting all the reps so he can develop, but damn dude.

OL injuries are a massacre at this point. Most important unit on the team and they were down their 3 best players (plus a starting caliber back up OT in Nsekhe). Even Lauvao went out and he's not that good.

"don't do anything drastic to this roster" is still my refrain.

  

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67. "A for effort"
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lol

  

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68. "I can't get over these injuries"
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Ioannidis broke his fucking hand? Third string starting OT got injured? At this point 6 of the top 7 offensive linemen were unavailable?

Two TEs injured in the first half.

This team is mostly doing the best it can, damn.

  

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69. "The injuries are killing the team."
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Man, we barely have anyone left.









And I really hate to do this, but the curse seems to be real. Just change the fucking name already and shift the energy a little bit. It's affecting every team in the city.

  

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70. "I don't necessarily believe in curses...."
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But the negative energy by keeping the name does seem to hold this team back.

  

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71. "Yeah that's really what I'm talking about. "
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I don't really believe in curses either, but we gotta get rid of this negative energy.

  

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72. "I strongly agree."
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but it won't change until Snyder dies or the courts force the change.

  

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73. "i know, how shitty. "
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i wish Dan would get his head out of his ass and realize that he is a detriment to this team/organization that he claims to love so much. he drives me nuts.

  

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74. "I know we all know this but"
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Egos like Dan Snyder’s are fundamentally incapable of admitting something like that.

  

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75. "Ugh, I know..... Damnit "
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76. "DOCTSON CAUGHT ONE."
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Kirk!

two ice cold throws to finish the GW drive.

  

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77. "the signature Cousins/Gruden win"
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I’m in complete shock. Defense was coached up and executed masterfully, KC saves the season, Doctson finally delivered on his potential. Time will tell if it’s the most important win of the Gruden era, but it’s without question the biggest. They should all be proud, a true stunner.

HAIL

  

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84. "i almost couldn't believe what i was watching there at the end."
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78. "Seattle's field goal kicker lost this game"
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79. "Defense and a timely drive by Kirk & Co won this game."
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If you hold Seattle to under 20 points in Seattle, you've done enough to win.

should out to the second string offensive line who started a 4 of the 5 positions for WFC.

  

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80. "say what you want"
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he makes just 2/3 and they win

  

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81. "Still would be less than 20 points"
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And if we’re playing hypotheticals I’ll take at least two of the team’s five injured OL back.

  

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82. "So Fat Rob and Perine just aren't very good, right?"
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I know investing a high pick in a RB is a bad idea, especially if you already have a good OL.

But damn, those mid-round RBs need to be better than these two guys.

  

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83. "they're not"
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I think we're seeing a shift in the NFL now - from thinking teams can thrive with unheralded cheap RBs to realizing the difference that an elite RB prospect can make. Zeke, Fournette, Dalvin Cook...those guys had an impact from jump.

I'm hopeful we address it in next year's draft. Barkley won't be there but Bryce Love may be

  

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85. "Worst defense...."
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And I can't blame it all on the coaching either this time. Bruce fucked this team up.

  

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86. "didn't watch, was surprised how garbage it looked"
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defense has it share of injuries but had been playing well. Shut down Russ just last week.

  

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88. "i didn't watch either, had other shit going on yesterday afternoon"
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but it didn't sound great on the radio and my group text was poppin with moans and groans, so i didn't feel like i was missin' much.

  

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89. "lol same"
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87. "linebackers and, especially, Josh Norman were awful"
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Hate to pin so much of it on Norman but he got roasted by Thielen all day. Norman is a special player, but to date his worst game as a Skin will be against Case Keenum and Adam Thielen, not, say, Dak Prescott and Dez Bryant. Just awful.

  

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90. "Thielen is good but damn. Unexpected. "
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>Norman is a special player, but to date his
>worst game as a Skin will be against Case Keenum and Adam
>Thielen, not, say, Dak Prescott and Dez Bryant. Just awful.

  

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91. "I can't blame this game on Norman, even as awful as he played. "
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He's still a corner with a specific specialty and we all know having Norman on an island like that is not gonna yield the best results. Frontline was especially terrible, linebackers included.

  

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