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"OKPWrassling Post: Summerslam & Fall PPVs"


  

          

Here's the Summerslam predictions, let me know if you have any questions. I will actually be there drinking a lot so I will update it whenever I roll out of bed on Monday. Also going to Takeover, this is gonna be a great weekend.

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Aug 16th 2017
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FIXED
Aug 16th 2017
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I'm SO glad we're not getting a boring ass Baron title run
Aug 16th 2017
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RE: I'm SO glad we're not getting a boring ass Baron title run
Aug 16th 2017
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      RE: I'm SO glad we're not getting a boring ass Baron title run
Aug 16th 2017
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RE: OKPWrassling Post: Summerfest & Fall PPVs
Aug 16th 2017
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so i peruse the other posts and i have a question...
Aug 16th 2017
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Booking always has and always will be worth discussing
Aug 17th 2017
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this deserves more than i can give right now. ill be back later.
Aug 17th 2017
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      Welp, it's later.
Aug 29th 2017
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it's the natural progression once you realize it's scripted though
Aug 17th 2017
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      But at the same time, with Punk/Cena, we weren't talking about booking
Aug 17th 2017
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           Every discussion about what happens is about booking
Aug 17th 2017
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           much of the reception of Cena/Punk was about booking
Aug 17th 2017
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           Your issue seems to just be with the word "booking"
Aug 17th 2017
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Aug 18th 2017
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Aug 18th 2017
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                     cmon, man. I ain't need to see that shit.
Aug 18th 2017
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                          ^^soft as Sid's knees
Aug 18th 2017
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Six new episodes of Southpaw is up!!!
Aug 18th 2017
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Aug 18th 2017
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RE: Six new episodes of Southpaw is up!!!
Aug 19th 2017
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Do they do a call back to SS97 main event with Styles/KO/Shane?
Aug 18th 2017
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Yeah, it's an interesting one...
Aug 19th 2017
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RE: Do they do a call back to SS97 main event with Styles/KO/Shane?
Aug 19th 2017
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IMPORTANT NOTES ON BONUS QUESTIONS:
Aug 19th 2017
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Crowd just chanted "Where's your briefcase?" at Corbin
Aug 19th 2017
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Incendiary playing AB's theme live. JR announcing.
Aug 19th 2017
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The crowd was CRAZY hot for Asuka/Ember
Aug 20th 2017
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You watch these big NXT shows and forget it's WWE
Aug 20th 2017
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      I can't remember a time where NXT "overbooked" things
Aug 20th 2017
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           The one complaint I have is I don't know who those 3 dudes at the end ar...
Aug 20th 2017
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           reDragon and Adam Cole, ROH guys. And they're excellent additions to NXT
Aug 20th 2017
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           I still maintain that they have the roster to be able to do what NXT doe...
Aug 21st 2017
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Cesaro tearing up the beach ball is the highlight of the show so far...
Aug 20th 2017
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I marked out hard for that
Aug 20th 2017
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      Nothing save Cass-Show has been actively terrible...
Aug 20th 2017
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           Crowd seems quiet as hell the last couple hours
Aug 20th 2017
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           RE: Nothing save Cass-Show has been actively terrible...
Aug 21st 2017
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                RE: Nothing save Cass-Show has been actively terrible...
Aug 22nd 2017
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                I have no idea where this angle is/was supposed to heading anyway...
Aug 22nd 2017
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What garbage, lol...
Aug 20th 2017
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*bites tongue*
Aug 20th 2017
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all Shield guys wore red. Strowman or Brock getting a triple powerbomb?
Aug 20th 2017
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If they're smart enough to go full heel with the Shield, then Strowman.....
Aug 20th 2017
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      Given that they protected Punk's reign when they formed . . .
Aug 22nd 2017
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           Here's my ideal booking scenario...
Aug 22nd 2017
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                Might work, BUT...
Aug 23rd 2017
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                I'm banking on the fans loving Braun enough to get them over as heels...
Aug 23rd 2017
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                Its gonna be Brock/Reigns at WM
Aug 23rd 2017
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                     I know that was the early rumor, doesn't mean they'll stick to it...
Aug 23rd 2017
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                          Jones just guaranteed Brock isnt goin anywhere
Aug 23rd 2017
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                               Well, still...
Aug 23rd 2017
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this fuckin rules
Aug 20th 2017
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Quite possibly the hoss fight to end all hoss fights. Holy shit.
Aug 20th 2017
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RE: Quite possibly the hoss fight to end all hoss fights. Holy shit.
Aug 20th 2017
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What the fuck happened during that finish?
Aug 20th 2017
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Saved a bland show. Established a new title. Strowman's a real star.
Aug 20th 2017
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I was initially bummed they didn't take the belt off Lesnar but...
Aug 20th 2017
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SMH, they're booing Sasha Banks now?
Aug 22nd 2017
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1 year ago exactly I tweeted this (maybe I stole it, I don't remember)
Aug 22nd 2017
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      Yeah, basically
Aug 22nd 2017
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           Bookmark this post for when they hate Braun by Rumble 2019
Aug 23rd 2017
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           Disagree. Vince kills every top star he has.
Aug 28th 2017
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Bobby Roode just looks right on a show like Smackdown
Aug 22nd 2017
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*glorious
Aug 22nd 2017
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Finally watched Summerslam last night. Pretty good.
Aug 23rd 2017
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sounds like they're sending off Asuka with class
Aug 25th 2017
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lol...I suspect he says, or at least thinks, this quite a bit:
Aug 25th 2017
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Well looks like I was wrong about Cena-Reigns at WM...
Aug 28th 2017
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Since they did the Shield triple threat at Battleground '16 all bets are...
Aug 29th 2017
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      Football season is back
Aug 29th 2017
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      They were treading water to the max from Mania to SS
Aug 29th 2017
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           I think this is the start of a long Reigns Cena series
Aug 31st 2017
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      they did Wyatts/Shield at the show BEFORE Mania...
Aug 29th 2017
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Damn Roman is still terrible on the mic
Aug 28th 2017
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I thought he did alright but Cena still mopped the floor with him
Aug 29th 2017
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      watched today. Torn on this but was entertained
Aug 29th 2017
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      RE: watched today. Torn on this but was entertained
Aug 29th 2017
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      cena's at the point in his career...
Aug 31st 2017
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           he has got to speak up for his character at some point
Aug 31st 2017
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                Only 2 things will get Reigns over at this point
Aug 31st 2017
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      I interpreted it more as a challenge to Reigns than a burial
Aug 29th 2017
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      Roman kinda sorta did ok but not really...
Aug 31st 2017
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      Yeah, the "Fake Bitch thing was where he lost me too
Aug 31st 2017
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           Definitely...
Sep 01st 2017
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                good question. He no-sells most opponent's promos
Sep 01st 2017
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                You're right. Ironically, Cena wrote Roman's promo for him...
Sep 01st 2017
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                     Batista wasn't smart enough for his job either, but they protected him
Sep 03rd 2017
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                          RE: Batista wasn't smart enough for his job either, but they protected h...
Sep 03rd 2017
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                Cena laying the accent on so thick, yuck
Sep 01st 2017
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                I feel like mocking his "passionate" promos is the way to go
Sep 01st 2017
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      cena ran over him it was brutal. roman needed Southwest Airlines.
Sep 01st 2017
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Anyone been watching the Mae Young classic (no spoilers not on network y...
Sep 04th 2017
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I need to play catch up today
Sep 12th 2017
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Dolph Zigger has been the same "it's not fair!" whiner for like five yea...
Sep 06th 2017
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I want to like him too
Sep 06th 2017
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Lol, his gear is baffling
Sep 06th 2017
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His problem is that face turn on the cash-in
Sep 07th 2017
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The entire gimmick is so dumb in kayfabe terms
Sep 06th 2017
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They've done an excellent job using Reigns and Cena to rehab JJ
Sep 11th 2017
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The Bar's interview with Jericho was outstanding.
Sep 12th 2017
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if Dolph never actually wrestles, maybe it's a better gimmick
Sep 13th 2017
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This Ziggler thing couldn't bore me any more than it does
Sep 13th 2017
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      I'd be all for him showing up in a Mr. Perfect style singlet next week
Sep 14th 2017
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           haha, this is my favorite part about Perfect's matches
Sep 14th 2017
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i dont think the Uso's and New Day can have a bad match
Sep 13th 2017
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They absolutely do an incredible job together!
Sep 15th 2017
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it's really a shame they were on the preshow of Summerslam
Sep 15th 2017
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i love the evil uso's...
Sep 15th 2017
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      Yeah definitely check it out
Sep 15th 2017
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      its on the network
Sep 15th 2017
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      Definitely watch the SummerSlam match...
Sep 15th 2017
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New Day vs Usos in the Cell is being rumored. That would rule.
Sep 16th 2017
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      one of the only tag matches I could get excited for in the cell tbh
Sep 17th 2017
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have we talked about old man vince coming back?
Sep 15th 2017
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That was pretty crazy to see
Sep 15th 2017
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It was a great segment...
Sep 15th 2017
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They've done a handful of things very right over the last three weeks.
Sep 15th 2017
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      I can see this feud going to more than one match...
Sep 16th 2017
119
Damn, RIP Bobby Heenan
Sep 17th 2017
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Ugh, I mean we saw it coming but sad that it finally happened
Sep 17th 2017
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One of the best to do it. RIP.
Sep 17th 2017
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An absolute natural.
Sep 17th 2017
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Lol, he put on a SHOW in the 92 Rumble
Sep 17th 2017
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That's one of my top moments for him on commentary
Sep 18th 2017
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RE: An absolute natural.
Sep 20th 2017
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RIP, glad he's no longer suffering...
Sep 18th 2017
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"Jannetty tried to dive through the window to escape!"
Sep 20th 2017
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      RE: "Jannetty tried to dive through the window to escape!" <- LMFAO
Sep 20th 2017
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      ARE YOU BLIND???
Sep 20th 2017
139
Alroght... I gave the Jinder experiment a fair shot
Sep 20th 2017
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on the flip side: enjoying Natty as champ n/m
Sep 20th 2017
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RE: on the flip side: enjoying Natty as champ n/m
Sep 20th 2017
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RE: Alroght... I gave the Jinder experiment a fair shot
Sep 20th 2017
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      He is moving into the wrong kind of heat
Sep 20th 2017
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      if his work were half as good as his look he'd be incredible
Sep 20th 2017
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           Yep. On a certain level I'm glad they gave him a shot
Sep 21st 2017
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      Jinder has to accuse people of xenophobia
Sep 20th 2017
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           That's the point, right now he's the hypocritical heel
Sep 20th 2017
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           I just don't think it's very effective.
Sep 20th 2017
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           RE: That's the point, right now he's the hypocritical heel
Sep 20th 2017
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           the point is that, as presented, it's not a good gimmick by any standard
Sep 20th 2017
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           RE: Jinder has to accuse people of xenophobia
Sep 20th 2017
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Prediction Series: No Mercy
Sep 21st 2017
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I think we see Samoa Joe spoil Strowman's chance
Sep 22nd 2017
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      yeah there's no chance this is a clean finish
Sep 22nd 2017
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Take 2. Glacier was a surprise entrant to Honor Rumble
Sep 22nd 2017
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1. "You have it set to view only"
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2. "FIXED"
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also I should note that the preshow is probably starting at 6 Eastern. Haven't seen an official announcement but I believe that's the way it's been for 2 years now.

  

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3. "I'm SO glad we're not getting a boring ass Baron title run"
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Not saying Nakamura is for sure gonna be great, but to go from Randy, to Jinder, to Baron would kill anything the title had going for it.



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5. "RE: I'm SO glad we're not getting a boring ass Baron title run"
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>Not saying Nakamura is for sure gonna be great, but to go
>from Randy, to Jinder, to Baron would kill anything the title
>had going for it.
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Having an obvious heel foreign champ is actually a great call if they go straight into Nak. It's potentially solid mark reprogramming. Foreign = heel is an institution in rasslin.

  

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6. "RE: I'm SO glad we're not getting a boring ass Baron title run"
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>Having an obvious heel foreign champ is actually a great call
>if they go straight into Nak. It's potentially solid mark
>reprogramming. Foreign = heel is an institution in rasslin.


This^^^^

It's old school and it works if done right. So far, they have hit a mark....

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4. "RE: OKPWrassling Post: Summerfest & Fall PPVs"
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>Here's the Summerslam predictions, let me know if you have
>any questions. I will actually be there drinking a lot so I
>will update it whenever I roll out of bed on Monday. Also
>going to Takeover, this is gonna be a great weekend.
>
>http://bit.ly/2wguGEU

Enjoy! I'm prolly gonna watch takeover and summerfest in one long session. At least that'll allow me to skip some of the commercials/rando stuff. During all of it, I'll be playing that damn WWE Champions game. I'm addicted to level-ups and bullshit!

  

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7. "so i peruse the other posts and i have a question..."
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is the booking the "thing" now? like thats the story worth discussing?

seems odd to me

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8. "Booking always has and always will be worth discussing"
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>is the booking the "thing" now? like thats the story worth
>discussing?

>seems odd to me

That question seems odd to me. Pro wrestling is storytelling and psychology, and booking is essentially the script to said story.

Discussing booking= discussing the story=discussing pro wrestling.

Quality booking means letting guys ride on their strengths and not only listening to fan reactions but crafting a response to those reactions to maximize a return on that emotional investment.

It's pretty much the backbone of a successful promotion. Terrible booking contributed a great deal to the demise of WCW. Quality booking of characters in ways that accentuated their strengths instead of highlighting their weakness was a major factor in the rise of ECW.

None of the greats of yesteryear- yes, I said NONE- would be able to rise to their prior stature under this current culture without Vince making serious exceptions.

Modern WWE is quite literally the mostly tightly scripted and controlled product they've ever presented and it shows. 50/50 booking in WWE has lead to a general mediocre product that gets by in excellent ring work and brand loyalty. Everyone about even with everyone else and nobody is on any real journey. Yes, this stuff matters in creating an exciting and engaging product.

Booking isn't the thing "now", it is and always has been THE thing and is always worth discussing. Hulk Hogan very well might not happen if Vern Gagne stubbornly held fast to his initial booking of Hogan as a heel in the face of fans cheering him to the rafters.

Conversely, had Vince been savvy enough to listen and react to the incredibly negative fan reactions to the Roman Reigns project early on, Reigns would likely have come full circle by now as a considerably less polarizing baby face.

Vince today would have likely forced Steve Austin into his prefabricated Fang McFrost or Ice Dagger characters instead of letting him rock with the golden goose of a name Steve's wife picked out: Stone Cold, and booked him accordingly.

Asking if booking is worth discussing in a pro wrestling conversation is no different than Asking baseball fans What the point of discussing a manager's batter lineup and bullpen rotations. Even shoot combat sports like MMA and boxing rely heavily on Booking because that's how you sell a fight.

Booking is the creative direction that drives the story and the psychology behind it.

  

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9. "this deserves more than i can give right now. ill be back later."
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72. "Welp, it's later. "
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10. "it's the natural progression once you realize it's scripted though"
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>is the booking the "thing" now? like thats the story worth
>discussing?
>
>seems odd to me

I view it the same way as critiquing a TV show I like. The characters should achieve things/make decisions that make sense to them and the situation. Not to say that everything should be predictable. Surprises should happen fairly often but those can be good or bad too.

  

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11. "But at the same time, with Punk/Cena, we weren't talking about booking"
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Austin/Hart. nWo in the beginning. Just about every great angle, you talk about how the performers connected and how great the matches were. It's when the booking seams are so visible (Women's MiTB, nWo/Sting blowoff, Dolph Ziggler's entire career, Bray Wyatt, Cena/Ryder/Kane) that you complain about how things should be booked.

Especially now in the era of 50/50 booking where you see the PPV match 5 different ways before the PPV, wins and losses get traded, and nothing seems to mean anything, it's like fresh water in the middle of the desert when you get anything like the WM30 Daniel Bryan angle. And even that was almost fucked up by WWE insisting on Batista having a big triumphant return.

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12. "Every discussion about what happens is about booking "
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Whether or not people say the word "booking", that's what's being discussed.

Austin/Hart?

People talk about Steve passing out with that bloody face and not giving up. That was a fantastic booking decision that understood the things that made the character work. When we talk about how someone connects with the crowd, it's booking.

When we talk about how great that early NWO angle was, it was because it was booked so well with a slow, patient burn.

The pro wrestling media built that business on discussion heavily centered around booking.

Punk/Cena? Booking was front and center. Everyone was surprised at the booking decision to let Punk go off with his pipe bomb... And people wondered if they would actually let him go over on Cena, especially with his contract expiring, and particularly in light of Vince's penchant toward jobbing people in their hometown. Then when Punk left for the next month people spoke about the choice to have him running around with the strap off screen and when he returned we discussed the choice to put him with triple h.

A booking.

The booking of Daniel Bryan was a very hot topic throughout that run.

Pro wrestling discussion is, nearly by definition, booking discussion, with or without the buzz word itself.

  

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13. "much of the reception of Cena/Punk was about booking"
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1. that they let the pipe bomb happen

2. that they let cena get pinned clean by a fan favorite

>Austin/Hart. nWo in the beginning. Just about every great
>angle, you talk about how the performers connected and how
>great the matches were.

Somewhat disagree for the reasons CT listed, but also the discussion of booking has become much more prevalent in recent times because fans know more about the business than they ever did.

  

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14. "Your issue seems to just be with the word "booking""
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Like others have said, simply by dissecting if what happened was good or bad we are talking about the booking in the same way that we are talking about the writing when we discuss if we liked this week's Game of Thrones storyline.

When things are great you hear less complaining, but when we say, "that was so awesome the way this happened, I never saw it coming" That is complimenting the booking, even if we don't say the word.

Discussing the booking is how we analyze wrestling. We can also discuss someone's ability to carry out an interview/angle/match, but as for what actually happened- the story told and the end result- that is booking.

  

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19. "cmon, man. I ain't need to see that shit."
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Fuckin Softball Sid, man.

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21. "^^soft as Sid's knees"
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Suck it up, sweetheart. You'll survive.

  

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18. "Six new episodes of Southpaw is up!!!"
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About to check these out now

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20. "https://media.giphy.com/media/uTuLngvL9p0Xe/giphy.gif"
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25. "RE: Six new episodes of Southpaw is up!!!"
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>About to check these out now

Glorious. So glorious. Saturday morning good times. Here I go.

  

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22. "Do they do a call back to SS97 main event with Styles/KO/Shane? "
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In the main event of SummerSlam 1997 HBK, as special referee, tries to hit rival Bret Hart with a steel chair, but Bret ducks and Shawn drills Undertaker by accident. Bret covers Taker and Shawn apprehensively makes the 3 count, awarding Bret the win and title.

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23. "Yeah, it's an interesting one..."
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I'm looking at it as a set-up to a Shane/KO match though.

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26. "RE: Do they do a call back to SS97 main event with Styles/KO/Shane? "
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>In the main event of SummerSlam 1997 HBK, as special referee,
>tries to hit rival Bret Hart with a steel chair, but Bret
>ducks and Shawn drills Undertaker by accident. Bret covers
>Taker and Shawn apprehensively makes the 3 count, awarding
>Bret the win and title.

That almost has to be the finish now that it is in my head.

I'm probably going to watch NXT and summerfest back to back Sunday.

  

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24. "IMPORTANT NOTES ON BONUS QUESTIONS:"
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SINGLES match was meant to disqualify the Fatal 4-way. I have realized in both my pools that this wasn't clear enough. Also...

great12k6: You skipped Bonus 3
Selassie: I have no idea what your last 4 answers mean and suspect that someone might have written over your stuff. You also have Bonus 3 blank.
Oak: You skipped Bonus 1
y2Flound: SD Tag team was already announced as preshow.

Actually how about everyone check over their answers. This is getting messy.

  

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27. "Crowd just chanted "Where's your briefcase?" at Corbin "
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Hot crowd. Gonna be a fun one.

  

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28. "Incendiary playing AB's theme live. JR announcing. "
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Great start until the cameraman fucked up and Kevin Dunn'd AB's backflip spot.

  

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29. "The crowd was CRAZY hot for Asuka/Ember"
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I hope it came across on screen cause I can't overstate the frenzy people were in at that point. This show is a great lesson in show structure. On paper 5 matches that weren't very personal feuds looks measly when compared to the previous 2 shows, but everything on the card just built the crowd up perfectly. Tremendous storytelling by everyone involved (Gargano/Almas especially). There was also a tag match with the UK guys that'll probably air this week and you guys should look out for that. Going in I was disappointed there wasn't a Bate-Dunne title rematch, so this was a pleasant surprise.

  

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30. "You watch these big NXT shows and forget it's WWE"
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It's so confusing, that these NXT shows could be so well-balanced and these characters could be so fully realized while Raw is nearly unwatchable.

It's the same company. Same resources. Most of the top guys on TV now came from NXT!

How good would a Hunter/Regal-produced Raw and Smackdown show be?

  

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31. "I can't remember a time where NXT "overbooked" things"
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i'm sure it's happened, but they usually keep it simple. WWE puts out SO much content that they're always trying to outsmart the audience and it usually just convolutes everything. It seems like every WWE ppv suffers from some overbooking. Like a ref gets knocked down and then it doesn't come into play or Great Khali interferes and then disappears again. If I was a casual fan I don't know how I'd keep track of it all when half of it is thrown away anyhow. NXT's attention-to-detail in the storytelling is partially a result of it's limited programing, but it still amazes me the big leagues can't take some notes.

  

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32. "The one complaint I have is I don't know who those 3 dudes at the end ar..."
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All I know is that they're midgets next to McIntyre and the end of the show and the attack on Sanity was just kinda like...ok
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33. "reDragon and Adam Cole, ROH guys. And they're excellent additions to NXT"
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Roode is on his way out soon. Word is they want a faction of former ROH guys so my guess is they add either KO or Roderick Strong to the mix.

It's a good move to replenish the roster with Roode, Asuka and AOP likely on their way out.

  

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48. "I still maintain that they have the roster to be able to do what NXT doe..."
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They just have to juggle the stories.

The Brock shit, for the most part, works largely because Brock's not there every week to LOL CENA all over everyone. Then on the other hand, you see every other PPV match (especially the tag division) played out five different ways even in the runup to like a GABF.

They've done OK when they go to "local talent" to build ppl up (Braun's build worked perfectly for exactly that reason -- even if it did give us fuckin Ellsworth).

Basic problem is that they think they're building conflict by having most storylines include escalating interaction. The problem is that they're just exhausting that conflict until the majority of the viewing audience doesn't give a shit any more. Granted, the Summerslam main is the exception, because holy shit did the match pay off, but you're not going to be able to do pullapart-pullapart-pullapart-HOSS with every angle.

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34. "Cesaro tearing up the beach ball is the highlight of the show so far..."
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I mean, the bar is pretty low to this point but still awesome.

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35. "I marked out hard for that"
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Him ripping up a beach ball being thrown around the crowd. Holy shit this PPV has been not good. NXT was pretty amazing from front to back.

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36. "Nothing save Cass-Show has been actively terrible..."
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But there's been nothing terribly memorable either with the exception of New Day-Usos, which was on the pre-show.

The Shield vs. The Bar is probably match of the main show so far, followed by AJ-KO which got bogged down in the Shane stuff. Naomi-Natalya was a nice little surprise. Everything else has either been meh or a time filler seemingly designed to ensure this crowd is worn out by the time the main event happens.

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37. "Crowd seems quiet as hell the last couple hours "
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Which probably underscores the problem....these things are too damn long. I don't want to do anything for 6 hours straight.

  

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49. "RE: Nothing save Cass-Show has been actively terrible..."
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>But there's been nothing terribly memorable either with the
>exception of New Day-Usos, which was on the pre-show.
>
>The Shield vs. The Bar is probably match of the main show so
>far, followed by AJ-KO which got bogged down in the Shane
>stuff. Naomi-Natalya was a nice little surprise. Everything
>else has either been meh or a time filler seemingly designed
>to ensure this crowd is worn out by the time the main event
>happens.

And to make it worse, cass fucked around during that bullshit raw match and might be hella hurt. Knee. I thought it was a well-executed work but it is being sold as legit. Damn shame even if I was terrified that cass was gonna be tall Rusev in 6 months.

  

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50. "RE: Nothing save Cass-Show has been actively terrible..."
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When he pounded the mat I felt it was legitimate.

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52. "I have no idea where this angle is/was supposed to heading anyway..."
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I don't know how much truth there is to the rumors that Enzo's got nuclear heat backstage but I can't see the weird inertia of his "feud" with Cass being anything other than a punishment or a giant rib. I mean, it's just him getting his head kicked off, week after week after week. The "logical" progression would've been Enzo turning on Big Show at Summerslam to get back in Cass's good graces and reforming the team as heels, but nope—just another boot to the face.

And the shitty thing is that if it's supposed to punish Enzo, it's killing Cass, too. He should've moved on to something else a month ago. Instead, he's been stuck just, well, kicking his former partner's face off on an endless loop. And now he's hurt, apparently legitimately. Pretty shitty all around.

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38. "What garbage, lol..."
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I thought Jinder was leaving as champion but thought they'd do have him Honky Tonk Man his way out with a DQ or something. Pinning Nakamura there, even with the typical Singh Bros. interference, is dumb as hell. Dude couldn't even apply his finisher correctly.

They gotta put the belt on Strowman or Joe after that. If Reigns wins this crowd might legit riot.

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39. "*bites tongue*"
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40. "all Shield guys wore red. Strowman or Brock getting a triple powerbomb?"
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41. "If they're smart enough to go full heel with the Shield, then Strowman....."
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But with Nakamura losing I dunno if they go with that finish. But obviously that Shield storyline has to make its way to Reigns eventually.

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53. "Given that they protected Punk's reign when they formed . . . "
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and the last 3 months of Reigns/Strowman maybe they reunite in full at No Mercy? Roman can take the IC belt off Miz to do the whole "Shield own all the secondary belts" bit too.

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54. "Here's my ideal booking scenario..."
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I don't know exactly how these events would be spaced out, but you have Braun win the title at No Mercy, then have the Shield reunite and help Reigns take the title from Braun—Braun's over enough that I think would negate any face heat they'd get from the reunion. Then they run roughshod over Raw, and Reigns goes into Mania as the heel champ vs. Cena, with Cena going over for No. 17.

Either way, seems like the only way for WWE to get the reaction they want out of the inevitable Reigns-Cena showdown is to have someone go in as a full-fledged heel, and we know it ain't gonna be Cena.

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59. "Might work, BUT..."
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Is WWE savvy enough to avoid using the triple powerbomb? That move is so over I think it would prevent them from getting over as heels

  

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63. "I'm banking on the fans loving Braun enough to get them over as heels..."
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They'll have to use the move, and it will look especially cool if they use it on Braun, but I think the crowd hates Reigns enough and is so into Braun that if it's a deal where three guys are needed to beat one dude they'll treat them accordingly.

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60. "Its gonna be Brock/Reigns at WM "
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61. "I know that was the early rumor, doesn't mean they'll stick to it..."
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For one thing, that's giving Vince a little too much credit when it comes to sticking with a yearlong plan. Then you've got Brock looking to give UFC another try—I don't follow MMA, so maybe the Jon Jones news throws a wrench in those plans, but either way the dude is notoriously fickle about
pro-wrestling in general—and Cena coming over to Raw. A lot can change between now and then.

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62. "Jones just guaranteed Brock isnt goin anywhere "
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65. "Well, still..."
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Just because the rumor was one thing doesn't mean it's etched in stone.

Either way, based on how he's been booked since WM, I sense that they may finally be shifting away from the idea of Reigns as the brand's top face. Maybe reforming the Shield will be their last-ditch attempt to get him over as a face, and have him finally vanquish Brock after a year with the title or something. But he also just ate a clean pin in a match where he was basically the fourth most important participant.

Plus, I don't know how much longer they're gonna want to wait before having Cena win his 17th title. Seems like he's being brought over to Raw for a reason.

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42. "this fuckin rules"
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43. "Quite possibly the hoss fight to end all hoss fights. Holy shit."
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Goddamn.

Seriously.

This shit.

Summer Slam 2016: TOTALLY HOSSED OUT!!
Braised Beast a/Extra Hoss!

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45. "RE: Quite possibly the hoss fight to end all hoss fights. Holy shit."
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>Goddamn.
>
>Seriously.
>
>This shit.
>
>Summer Slam 2016: TOTALLY HOSSED OUT!!
>Braised Beast a/Extra Hoss!
>
>Jeebus.

When Samos Joe is the least hossy dude in a 4-man match, you know it's going down. And it did. I hope they don't miss the boat with Strowman after actually doing well enough to build him tho. Him going around throwing folks into and off of shit as champ is money on the table. The shield would have to reunite to beat him and it could all work out.

  

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44. "What the fuck happened during that finish?"
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That was such an awkward, choppy, disjointed finish.

Very odd.

  

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46. "Saved a bland show. Established a new title. Strowman's a real star."
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Everyone got their offense in. It looked and felt violent.

Brock ain't dumb, he knows there's money in a Strowman program - "sure I'll take two table bumps!" (Heyman's faux weeping while the table was on top of Brock was just beautiful)

Roman: The superman punch is so goddamn dumb. You're 250 dude. But whatever.

The Universal Title became THE belt with that match. And for contrast, you got clown Jinder Mahal who know one is bought in on.

We'll see when they pull the trigger on Strowman. Could be, like, SOON. It's gonna take some creativity to keep him hot. And to keep him as a fan favorite, not a babyface per se, is the right move but could prove challenging. But you worry about that stuff later. For now you've got yourself the big money hoss you wanted Ryback to be, except even bigger and more charismatic. Strike while the iron is hot, print money, and never look back.

  

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47. "I was initially bummed they didn't take the belt off Lesnar but..."
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... there's obviously a lot of money in having Braun dethrone Brock in a singles match, and with the way that match was booked that *has* to be where they're going. Not sure if they'll draw it out but this is so obvious not even the idiots in creative could fuck this up.

As was said, that saved the show and will go down as a pretty legendary match.

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51. "SMH, they're booing Sasha Banks now?"
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Wrestling fans are some clowns.

  

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55. "1 year ago exactly I tweeted this (maybe I stole it, I don't remember)"
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"You either die an indie darling or live long enough to see yourself become the Cena."

Don't even remember who it was about, but it holds just as true today about wrestling fans. I'm guessing it was when the fans were booing the Rollins/Balor match

  

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58. "Yeah, basically"
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They don't like ANY face that's on top. It's corny.

Probably would've turned on Bryan too if he didn't get hurt right after winning the title.

  

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66. "Bookmark this post for when they hate Braun by Rumble 2019"
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71. "Disagree. Vince kills every top star he has. "
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It's a long ass list of poorly booked top guys who had the crowd in the palm of their hand one minute and people either rolling their eyes or lukewarm the next.

Reigns
Seth
Sasha
Bailey
Dolph
Ryback
Dean
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Plenty more where that came from. Each of these had a white hot moment in time where wwe proceeded to go away from the things that made them hot, failed to properly refine/upgrade into a more main event style act, etc.

It's a whole lot of failure in the main event scene and if the fans hate Braun, I bet it's a result of undisciplined or lackluster booking.

  

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56. "Bobby Roode just looks right on a show like Smackdown"
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57. "*glorious"
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64. "Finally watched Summerslam last night. Pretty good."
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Somebody said "bland," but while not much really popped me, there weren't any real clunkers either.

  

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67. "sounds like they're sending off Asuka with class"
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Vince: give me Asuka now with dragon dancers and a translator manager

Hunter: how about we just do it like adults?


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68. "lol...I suspect he says, or at least thinks, this quite a bit:"
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>Hunter: how about we just do it like adults?

  

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69. "Well looks like I was wrong about Cena-Reigns at WM..."
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I forgot this company no longer has the patience to foreshadow a match and actually wait to do it, and they've got like 87 PPVs to fill before then, anyway. Meltzer did say it had been strongly considered as the WM main, though.

I guess that doesn't mean they couldn't do the rematch and make it for the title at that point I don't know why you'd blow one of the last big "for the first time ever" money matches you've got left on a B show like No Mercy, especially when you're already doing your *other* money match on the same show.

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73. "Since they did the Shield triple threat at Battleground '16 all bets are..."
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especially
>when you're already doing your *other* money match on the same
>show.

But it does surprise me they're doing BOTH of these on No mercy

  

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75. "Football season is back"
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Can't afford to lose more viewers

  

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76. "They were treading water to the max from Mania to SS"
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So I can't complain that they're giving everything away. Could force them to get more creative next mania too.

  

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82. "I think this is the start of a long Reigns Cena series"
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Likely that would end at Mania with a Roman win.

Cena will take this one, probably another match at Rumble with another Cena win or false finish and then a mania match.

Start the process now, see how they work and let it blow off at Mania without having to make it an every week feud.

  

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77. "they did Wyatts/Shield at the show BEFORE Mania..."
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and Evolution/Shield the two shows AFTER

three mega matches, sandwiching a completely forgettable Kane and New Age Outlaws vs the Shield match at Wrestlemania

  

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70. "Damn Roman is still terrible on the mic"
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74. "I thought he did alright but Cena still mopped the floor with him"
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Felt like 98% real and I loved it. Cena has kinda cheekily broken the 4th wall before but never to that extent.

  

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78. "watched today. Torn on this but was entertained"
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on one hand: should Cena have tried harder to put Roman over? Three straight Mania main events, ended Undertaker, multi-time champion...dude's resume is stellar so far.

on the other hand: nahhhhh that shit was fire!

I don't know what to make of it, I can't determine if it was more helpful or harmful but I liked it. ( the part about "cmon pal, it's a promo learn to do it" I thought was a little messed up)

I wish someone would just slow Roman Reigns down and help him realize all of the things he IS that John Cena ISN'T - specifically, Reigns is a dad and actual athlete, Cena pretends to be everyone's dad and just lifts a lot of weights. You could win some people over there.

  

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79. "RE: watched today. Torn on this but was entertained"
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ive only watched for a year but hasnt the wwe been pushing Reigns for a few years now? Why should Cena be going out of his way to do something Roman should have done on his own by now?

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83. "cena's at the point in his career..."
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where he should be the vet that's putting people over. reigns isn't the greatest but i wouldn't put the blame on him for all the boos. 70% of those boos are people that cheered him in the shield and turned when wwe pushed him down people's throats.

  

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85. "he has got to speak up for his character at some point"
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He has to know why people dont like him. Its pretty obvious to everyone not named Vince McMahon. Ive heard it several times in interviews with all the Shield members how they were shooting shit down left and right to protect themselves when they were the Shield. Now all of a sudden he cant speak up? He was too busy cashing them Wrestlemania Main Event checks to care. I think he is still the highest in merch sales not named John Cena. So he is still getting paid so he probably could care less. Until he gets murdered in front of 15,000 people and a couple of million on TV. Maybe this lights a fire under his ass. But Cena definitely shouldnt waste energy on helping this guy get over when the WWE machine cant do it.

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86. "Only 2 things will get Reigns over at this point"
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1) Reigns himself

2) A drastic change in booking (i.e. a heel turn, cause even a Shield reunion is a short term solution)

The second is seemingly not happening so it's gotta be on Roman. Cena can launch all the superlatives in the world at him and it won't matter one bit. No one will buy in who hasn't already... but when he calls him out for not being shit??? NOW we're paying attention. NOW Reigns can actually do something with this. Will he? Idk, but the Cena vs. Another face schtick where he compliments the guy all the way up to the fight won't do shit here and will probably make the feud forgettable.

  

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80. "I interpreted it more as a challenge to Reigns than a burial"
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I believe Cena has more pull backstage than he admits and has refused to put over some young guys he doesn't feel are worthy (most recently Corbin), but this situation is unique imo. This is not a young guy that needs the rub and isn't getting it, it's a young guy who has gotten the rub over and over again and hasn't really earned it. That's not to say he's a bum cause there are few who have the PPV match resume he has over the past few years, but when he gets on the mic it's a real snoozefest. Cena has been handed all the same opportunities, but when he gets on the mic you get it.

So in Cena's eyes: he's a made man but still has to earn it and now John is forcing him to step up to the plate. I'm all for it. I'm really intrigued to see how Reigns responds over the next few weeks. Even if he loses this match/feud I doubt Vince gets off board completely. They've invested WAY too much time and effort to turn back now, and a big loss can be used as a stepping stone or the wrinkle his character so desperately needs.

>
>I don't know what to make of it, I can't determine if it was
>more helpful or harmful but I liked it. ( the part about "cmon
>pal, it's a promo learn to do it" I thought was a little
>messed up)

I get that, but the reason these meta promos pop the crowd so much is the adult crowd says "finally they're not treating us like morons." If everything was meta it would suck ass, but it works for these big programs in the modern era that have the future of the company at stake. When they portrayed Roman as a Daniel Bryan-style underdog being held down by the authority it was IMPOSSIBLE to suspend disbelief. This is both fun and doesn't treat us like idiots.

  

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81. "Roman kinda sorta did ok but not really..."
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As soon as he called him a "fake bitch" it was over as it was complete desperation. From there he went the "part time shovel digging" route that everyone else does so it was definitely 100% over from there and Cena let him know it. I don't blame Roman though - Cena is a master at the talking game and he proved that once again. For anyone that feuds with Cena going forward, they HAVE HAVE HAVE to stop using the part-time lines because it's not original at all.
Like everyone else, I thought it came off legit - the part where Cena pounced on him for losing his trail of thought was vicious.

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84. "Yeah, the "Fake Bitch thing was where he lost me too"
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He was doing fine till them, but as Punk said to Cena a few years ago "Your arms are too short to box with God."

> they HAVE HAVE HAVE to stop using the
>part-time lines because it's not original at all.

Plus that set up Cena for the knockout blow at the end. "I do this part-time better than you could ever do this full-time. "

Even If Cena had let him run his mouth for a few minutes and then ONLY said that he would have sonned him cause it's blatantly true.

  

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87. "Definitely..."
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In terms of that knockout blow, you're absolutely right - Cena's sooo good on the mic, if you come at him with the same thing everyone else has been saying for over a year then his responses will only get better (as Roman found out).

It's interesting though because how would you go at Cena? I think Punk genuinely did it best with the "you are what you hate" angle which was genius. Took me a while to find it but this promo from Punk (at the 20min mark) is epic (the whole thing is being honest): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FouccjzEEPU

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89. "good question. He no-sells most opponent's promos"
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which is annoying and makes it tough to get to him, but he only started no-selling Roman when he got to the part-timer stuff so I think Reigns was on the right path. The "You don't matter as much as you think you do" stuff was good even if it's only partially true. I think acting above it all may work because people are gonna boo Reigns regardless and that will feed the fire without changing the character too much. I'm all for guys who are normally faces working heelish against Cena. He's a boy scout, so it works. Reigns can also point out that people were bored with the company because of Cena and he and the Shield had to rescue the company. "Wrestling was cool again once we showed up." Again, only partially true, but who cares?

  

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92. "You're right. Ironically, Cena wrote Roman's promo for him..."
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Had Roman said "You're not as big a deal as you think you are - you ain't main evented Mania in 5 years, you opened at Summerfest and you're telling me that I'm not doing MY job?!?!"

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93. "Batista wasn't smart enough for his job either, but they protected him"
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The more I've thought about it, the more I've come to think it was completely unfair of them to put Reigns out there like that. It's not a prerequisite that top guys have to be great promos - Ultimate Warrior's promos were ridiculous.

  

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94. "RE: Batista wasn't smart enough for his job either, but they protected h..."
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Warriors promo's were ridiculous but you believed the shit he said. That shit got people hyped. He said that nonsense with passion and it worked with the mad man from Parts Unknown.

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90. "Cena laying the accent on so thick, yuck "
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91. "I feel like mocking his "passionate" promos is the way to go"
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Those ones where he gets all dramatic and starts ranting and yelling about how passionate he is.

  

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88. "cena ran over him it was brutal. roman needed Southwest Airlines."
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95. "Anyone been watching the Mae Young classic (no spoilers not on network y..."
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I know they filmed everything up to the semis already so I only want to talk about what is on the network at this point which is first 2 rounds.

I'm really enjoying it, even more than the CWC. I think JR on announcement may be the difference between the 2.

It's funny not knowing anyone so everytime I think someone is going to go far they seem to lose right away. Lacey Evans is a great example.

The girl from Straight Edge Society is in and they were pushing her comeback from alcoholism and ruining her career storyline then she just lost in the 2nd round so I clearly have no idea what's happening.

The forced in 4 horsewomen vs 4 horsewomen feud makes it obvious Shayna Baszler is going far in this thing and they have a storyline planned, but outside of that it feels very cool to watch.

  

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103. "I need to play catch up today"
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I watched the first four that were released now I need to watch the updated shows. Gonna try to knock them all out before the final afters smackdown tonight.

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96. "Dolph Zigger has been the same "it's not fair!" whiner for like five yea..."
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go figure it out, carve out a niche, and develop an actual character other than "did with six pack who wears pink"

The Miz figured it out.

Good riddance

  

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97. "I want to like him too"
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he can wrestle and he is believable on the mic. But this whole heel turn has been weak. I didnt mind the gimmick thief thing he did. But I am not going to believe you as a heel when you are rocking metallic silver tights with an American flag and your graphics are hot pink. Get some new gear and graphics at least.

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98. "Lol, his gear is baffling"
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The saddest part is EVERYONE was begging for a heel run for him... and THIS is what he does with it?

  

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100. "His problem is that face turn on the cash-in"
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He was hot fire as a heel with AJ and Big E as his team. But, whereas someone like Kevin Owens knows how to play with a crowd to stay heel when he's supposed to be heel, Ziggler bought the reaction too much, and WWE had no choice but to turn him face. That CAN work great - see Corporate-to-People's Champ era Rock. But they didn't do any of the ground work. And then when he was making progress, they nerfed his Survivor Series momentum because they had to have Face Roman doing Big Dog things.

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99. "The entire gimmick is so dumb in kayfabe terms"
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So you say you aren't successful because you don't have a stupid gimmick like the fans want and that nobody can beat you in a wrestling ring, yet he loses all his matches.

So is his gimmick basically a smarky fan who says the WWE picks me to lose matches because I don't do dumb things? I know they operate in the wrestling is fake world a lot, but that seems a bit much.

  

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101. "They've done an excellent job using Reigns and Cena to rehab JJ"
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We'll see if they find a way to continue this trajectory.

Cena and Reigns is must see right now.

Braun is made. He's a revelation.

I LOVE The Bar. I hope they have two more years together.

I also like the loose Hardy/ Shield-Lite alliance. The tag scene is nice right now.

I've hated this recent wwe run but these last three weeks have built nicely.


  

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102. "The Bar's interview with Jericho was outstanding. "
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104. "if Dolph never actually wrestles, maybe it's a better gimmick"
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but so far he still seems like a pussy.

KO got the hot program doe. Can't believe Vince signed off on all of that, but damn if it didn't land with impact.

  

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105. "This Ziggler thing couldn't bore me any more than it does"
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His complaints make little sense as a shoot and even less sense in kayfabe.

  

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107. "I'd be all for him showing up in a Mr. Perfect style singlet next week "
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and getting down to business. He could pull it off- he's got a beautiful dropkick, bumps like a motherfucker, and he's got the spaghetti hair that turns into a puff by the end of the match.

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108. "haha, this is my favorite part about Perfect's matches"
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and he's got
>the spaghetti hair that turns into a puff by the end of the
>match.

he looked like a crazy person after each match.

  

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106. "i dont think the Uso's and New Day can have a bad match"
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every single time they absolutely kill it. That was a really really good match and they only got 1 full segment.

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109. "They absolutely do an incredible job together!"
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110. "it's really a shame they were on the preshow of Summerslam"
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I think I've pegged them as match of the night on every PPV they've been on and they were a tough act to follow that night. I was pretty excited for this feud and it has topped my expectations. New Day will still need to move into a different phase to keep things fresh, but this extended their run for at least a few months. Repeating battle rap lines notwithstanding, the Evil Usos have been outstanding. Their mic work has improved considerably and I think their ring work has too (even with less comfortable wrestling clothes!).

  

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111. "i love the evil uso's..."
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i still haven't watched their summerslam match, i hope it's on the network. i've heard it was right up there for match of the night.

  

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112. "Yeah definitely check it out"
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>i still haven't watched their summerslam match, i hope it's
>on the network. i've heard it was right up there for match of
>the night.

They upload the preshows. It is tough to judge just cause the fatal 4way was CRAZY (everyone was losing their minds in the building), but Usos and New Day was definitely better technically. It wasn't until the Raw tag match that people started to wake up again. Nothing could follow it.

  

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113. "its on the network"
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Iwatched it like 3 days after

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116. "Definitely watch the SummerSlam match..."
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It absolutely was match of the night!

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120. "New Day vs Usos in the Cell is being rumored. That would rule."
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124. "one of the only tag matches I could get excited for in the cell tbh"
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The fact that that all 5 wrestlers are great but aren't particularly known for their hardcore skills makes me curious to see what they do with it. Big E's through the ropes spear always makes me mark out so I bet he'll have something up his sleeve. They've yet to disappoint so they can probably do something fun with any stipulation. Also when they force mediocre singles feuds into the cell it's a huge bummer so this is probably the best call.

KO/Shane in a cell should be pretty lit too as long as they don't make it too long. Jinder has been whatever but I'm actually digging Natalya as champ. Smackdown is mostly back on track after a rough few months.

  

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114. "have we talked about old man vince coming back?"
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...and going hardway no less?!

  

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115. "That was pretty crazy to see"
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70+ year old billionaire taking a head butt that's so hard it busts him open? That's a crazy man right there.

  

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117. "It was a great segment..."
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I love how KO manipulated that situation into being *allowed* to beat him up.

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118. "They've done a handful of things very right over the last three weeks."
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This was one of them.

Hopefully it's the beginning in a stature promotion for KO

  

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119. "I can see this feud going to more than one match..."
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I think Shane needs the win as he's lost to Taker and AJ since his return so I can see Shane winning at HITC but losing to KO afterwards maybe?

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121. "Damn, RIP Bobby Heenan"
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*****

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122. "Ugh, I mean we saw it coming but sad that it finally happened"
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Or maybe better in reality because I'm sure the last few years for him were not very great.

The GOAT manager, one of the GOAT announcers and the standard for all heel work on the microphone.

  

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123. "One of the best to do it. RIP."
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125. "An absolute natural."
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The perfect heel manager/commentator. I'm kinda glad I've only discovered his work as an adult because I had so much appreciation for it immediately. His commentary on the '92 Rumble where he promises to be good if Flair wins and then IMMEDIATELY rubs it in everyone's face after Flair wins is what always sticks in my mind.

  

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126. "Lol, he put on a SHOW in the 92 Rumble"
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I had that on tape as a kid, I watched that Rumble all the time and cracked up at Heenan every time.

  

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127. "That's one of my top moments for him on commentary"
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The man absolutely killed it.

R.I.P. Brain

Think I'll watch the 92 Rumble again while I'm at work, they should have shut this place down for him passing anyway!

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132. "RE: An absolute natural."
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>The perfect heel manager/commentator. I'm kinda glad I've
>only discovered his work as an adult because I had so much
>appreciation for it immediately. His commentary on the '92
>Rumble where he promises to be good if Flair wins and then
>IMMEDIATELY rubs it in everyone's face after Flair wins is
>what always sticks in my mind.


Great moment....lol

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128. "RIP, glad he's no longer suffering..."
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he looked to be in bad shape over the last few years.

  

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130. ""Jannetty tried to dive through the window to escape!""
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My favorite line ever uttered in all of wrestling. RIP

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136. "RE: "Jannetty tried to dive through the window to escape!" <- LMFAO"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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139. "ARE YOU BLIND???"
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129. "Alroght... I gave the Jinder experiment a fair shot"
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But his promos are really bad and they're all the same. His physicality is impressive and the entrance is pretty dope, but he needs some acting school.

  

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131. "on the flip side: enjoying Natty as champ n/m"
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134. "RE: on the flip side: enjoying Natty as champ n/m"
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Cat Lady!!!!!! lol

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133. "RE: Alroght... I gave the Jinder experiment a fair shot"
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>But his promos are really bad and they're all the same. His
>physicality is impressive and the entrance is pretty dope, but
>he needs some acting school.


He gets heat though...It's that old school wrestling heat....lol....

He pushing those Iron Sheik buttons....I have no beef...

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135. "He is moving into the wrong kind of heat"
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People are mad because his experiment as champ sucks. He had the crowd on his side at the beginning of his run, smarks were into it, but they've turned on him because it sucks.

His promos are stale, his matches are very bad and his run is a giant dud in the middle of a great time for storylines.

Get the belt off of him, start moving into feuds like Nak vs KO for the title and let Jinder be a midcard heel where he belongs. It's failing badly

  

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138. "if his work were half as good as his look he'd be incredible"
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but this is his ceiling I'm afraid

  

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145. "Yep. On a certain level I'm glad they gave him a shot"
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I'm just annoyed that they went and ran with every shitty, obviuous, un-creative and uninspired element they could have run with.

More annoying to me is that this could have easily been an excellent Del Rio run using the same template.

  

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137. "Jinder has to accuse people of xenophobia "
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in order to get a reaction. It's just very forced and doesn't make much sense when he's feuding with Nak.

  

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140. "That's the point, right now he's the hypocritical heel"
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>in order to get a reaction. It's just very forced and doesn't
>make much sense when he's feuding with Nak.

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141. "I just don't think it's very effective."
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Like y2flound said, I think it's the wrong kind of heat.

  

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143. "RE: That's the point, right now he's the hypocritical heel"
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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144. "the point is that, as presented, it's not a good gimmick by any standard"
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Yes, he's the hypocritical heel.

That's a broad description though and all versions of that archetype are not equal. Jinder is not only a particularly boring iteration of that character, he's one of the worst iterations.

  

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murph71
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142. "RE: Jinder has to accuse people of xenophobia "
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>in order to get a reaction. It's just very forced and doesn't
>make much sense when he's feuding with Nak.


Yeah,,,I think y'all are overthinking this....lol....

He is being a full blown hypocrite....And it's working in terms of the MAD reaction of the crowds....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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pretentious username
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146. "Prediction Series: No Mercy"
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hell of a main event

http://bit.ly/2w8lgZa

  

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Tiger Woods
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147. "I think we see Samoa Joe spoil Strowman's chance "
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They seem hellbent on keeping the title on Brock so he can drop it to Reigns.
But they'll also aim to protect Strowman in a loss.

The truth is Strowman will never be hotter than he is now. They need to strike now. Do it.

  

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pretentious username
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148. "yeah there's no chance this is a clean finish"
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>They seem hellbent on keeping the title on Brock so he can
>drop it to Reigns.
>But they'll also aim to protect Strowman in a loss.
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>The truth is Strowman will never be hotter than he is now.
>They need to strike now. Do it.

I agree. I think Brock wins in a schmoz and Reigns beats Cena, but I wish they'd put the title on Braun (at least to see how it goes for a few months) and have Reigns lose to Cena to add another obstacle to overcome.

I forgot Samoa Joe wasn't doing anything right now. You're probably right that he gets involved in one of these matches.

  

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Cold Truth
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149. "Take 2. Glacier was a surprise entrant to Honor Rumble"
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http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/884691-former-wcw-star-makes-surprise-debut-during-roh-honor-rumble#/slide/1

This was cool as fuck. I like Glacier and I'm glad he got a pop.

  

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