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"OKPWrassling Post: Summerslam & Fall PPVs"


  

          

Here's the Summerslam predictions, let me know if you have any questions. I will actually be there drinking a lot so I will update it whenever I roll out of bed on Monday. Also going to Takeover, this is gonna be a great weekend.

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Aug 16th 2017
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Aug 16th 2017
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I'm SO glad we're not getting a boring ass Baron title run
Aug 16th 2017
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RE: I'm SO glad we're not getting a boring ass Baron title run
Aug 16th 2017
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      RE: I'm SO glad we're not getting a boring ass Baron title run
Aug 16th 2017
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RE: OKPWrassling Post: Summerfest & Fall PPVs
Aug 16th 2017
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so i peruse the other posts and i have a question...
Aug 16th 2017
7
Booking always has and always will be worth discussing
Aug 17th 2017
8
this deserves more than i can give right now. ill be back later.
Aug 17th 2017
9
      Welp, it's later.
Aug 29th 2017
72
it's the natural progression once you realize it's scripted though
Aug 17th 2017
10
      But at the same time, with Punk/Cena, we weren't talking about booking
Aug 17th 2017
11
           Every discussion about what happens is about booking
Aug 17th 2017
12
           much of the reception of Cena/Punk was about booking
Aug 17th 2017
13
           Your issue seems to just be with the word "booking"
Aug 17th 2017
14
           https://media.sticker.market/gif/neil-degrasse-tyson-589faf8bd74108533f6...
Aug 18th 2017
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                http://i1.wp.com/sportsgrumble.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/pentagon-j...
Aug 18th 2017
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                https://goo.gl/images/87kPhy
Aug 18th 2017
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                     cmon, man. I ain't need to see that shit.
Aug 18th 2017
19
                          ^^soft as Sid's knees
Aug 18th 2017
21
Six new episodes of Southpaw is up!!!
Aug 18th 2017
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https://media.giphy.com/media/uTuLngvL9p0Xe/giphy.gif
Aug 18th 2017
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RE: Six new episodes of Southpaw is up!!!
Aug 19th 2017
25
Do they do a call back to SS97 main event with Styles/KO/Shane?
Aug 18th 2017
22
Yeah, it's an interesting one...
Aug 19th 2017
23
RE: Do they do a call back to SS97 main event with Styles/KO/Shane?
Aug 19th 2017
26
IMPORTANT NOTES ON BONUS QUESTIONS:
Aug 19th 2017
24
Crowd just chanted "Where's your briefcase?" at Corbin
Aug 19th 2017
27
Incendiary playing AB's theme live. JR announcing.
Aug 19th 2017
28
The crowd was CRAZY hot for Asuka/Ember
Aug 20th 2017
29
You watch these big NXT shows and forget it's WWE
Aug 20th 2017
30
      I can't remember a time where NXT "overbooked" things
Aug 20th 2017
31
           The one complaint I have is I don't know who those 3 dudes at the end ar...
Aug 20th 2017
32
           reDragon and Adam Cole, ROH guys. And they're excellent additions to NXT
Aug 20th 2017
33
           I still maintain that they have the roster to be able to do what NXT doe...
Aug 21st 2017
48
Cesaro tearing up the beach ball is the highlight of the show so far...
Aug 20th 2017
34
I marked out hard for that
Aug 20th 2017
35
      Nothing save Cass-Show has been actively terrible...
Aug 20th 2017
36
           Crowd seems quiet as hell the last couple hours
Aug 20th 2017
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           RE: Nothing save Cass-Show has been actively terrible...
Aug 22nd 2017
49
                RE: Nothing save Cass-Show has been actively terrible...
Aug 22nd 2017
50
                I have no idea where this angle is/was supposed to heading anyway...
Aug 22nd 2017
52
What garbage, lol...
Aug 20th 2017
38
*bites tongue*
Aug 20th 2017
39
all Shield guys wore red. Strowman or Brock getting a triple powerbomb?
Aug 20th 2017
40
If they're smart enough to go full heel with the Shield, then Strowman.....
Aug 20th 2017
41
      Given that they protected Punk's reign when they formed . . .
Aug 22nd 2017
53
           Here's my ideal booking scenario...
Aug 22nd 2017
54
                Might work, BUT...
Aug 23rd 2017
59
                I'm banking on the fans loving Braun enough to get them over as heels...
Aug 23rd 2017
63
                Its gonna be Brock/Reigns at WM
Aug 23rd 2017
60
                     I know that was the early rumor, doesn't mean they'll stick to it...
Aug 23rd 2017
61
                          Jones just guaranteed Brock isnt goin anywhere
Aug 23rd 2017
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                               Well, still...
Aug 23rd 2017
65
this fuckin rules
Aug 20th 2017
42
Quite possibly the hoss fight to end all hoss fights. Holy shit.
Aug 20th 2017
43
RE: Quite possibly the hoss fight to end all hoss fights. Holy shit.
Aug 20th 2017
45
What the fuck happened during that finish?
Aug 20th 2017
44
Saved a bland show. Established a new title. Strowman's a real star.
Aug 20th 2017
46
I was initially bummed they didn't take the belt off Lesnar but...
Aug 21st 2017
47
SMH, they're booing Sasha Banks now?
Aug 22nd 2017
51
1 year ago exactly I tweeted this (maybe I stole it, I don't remember)
Aug 22nd 2017
55
      Yeah, basically
Aug 22nd 2017
58
           Bookmark this post for when they hate Braun by Rumble 2019
Aug 23rd 2017
66
           Disagree. Vince kills every top star he has.
Aug 29th 2017
71
Bobby Roode just looks right on a show like Smackdown
Aug 22nd 2017
56
*glorious
Aug 22nd 2017
57
Finally watched Summerslam last night. Pretty good.
Aug 23rd 2017
64
sounds like they're sending off Asuka with class
Aug 25th 2017
67
lol...I suspect he says, or at least thinks, this quite a bit:
Aug 25th 2017
68
Well looks like I was wrong about Cena-Reigns at WM...
Aug 28th 2017
69
Since they did the Shield triple threat at Battleground '16 all bets are...
Aug 29th 2017
73
      Football season is back
Aug 29th 2017
75
      They were treading water to the max from Mania to SS
Aug 29th 2017
76
           I think this is the start of a long Reigns Cena series
Aug 31st 2017
82
      they did Wyatts/Shield at the show BEFORE Mania...
Aug 29th 2017
77
Damn Roman is still terrible on the mic
Aug 28th 2017
70
I thought he did alright but Cena still mopped the floor with him
Aug 29th 2017
74
      watched today. Torn on this but was entertained
Aug 29th 2017
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      RE: watched today. Torn on this but was entertained
Aug 29th 2017
79
      cena's at the point in his career...
Aug 31st 2017
83
           he has got to speak up for his character at some point
Aug 31st 2017
85
                Only 2 things will get Reigns over at this point
Aug 31st 2017
86
      I interpreted it more as a challenge to Reigns than a burial
Aug 29th 2017
80
      Roman kinda sorta did ok but not really...
Aug 31st 2017
81
      Yeah, the "Fake Bitch thing was where he lost me too
Aug 31st 2017
84
           Definitely...
Sep 01st 2017
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                good question. He no-sells most opponent's promos
Sep 01st 2017
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                You're right. Ironically, Cena wrote Roman's promo for him...
Sep 01st 2017
92
                     Batista wasn't smart enough for his job either, but they protected him
Sep 03rd 2017
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                          RE: Batista wasn't smart enough for his job either, but they protected h...
Sep 04th 2017
94
                Cena laying the accent on so thick, yuck
Sep 01st 2017
90
                I feel like mocking his "passionate" promos is the way to go
Sep 01st 2017
91
      cena ran over him it was brutal. roman needed Southwest Airlines.
Sep 01st 2017
88
Anyone been watching the Mae Young classic (no spoilers not on network y...
Sep 04th 2017
95
I need to play catch up today
Sep 12th 2017
103
Dolph Zigger has been the same "it's not fair!" whiner for like five yea...
Sep 06th 2017
96
I want to like him too
Sep 06th 2017
97
Lol, his gear is baffling
Sep 06th 2017
98
His problem is that face turn on the cash-in
Sep 07th 2017
100
The entire gimmick is so dumb in kayfabe terms
Sep 06th 2017
99
They've done an excellent job using Reigns and Cena to rehab JJ
Sep 11th 2017
101
The Bar's interview with Jericho was outstanding.
Sep 12th 2017
102
if Dolph never actually wrestles, maybe it's a better gimmick
Sep 13th 2017
104
This Ziggler thing couldn't bore me any more than it does
Sep 13th 2017
105
      I'd be all for him showing up in a Mr. Perfect style singlet next week
Sep 14th 2017
107
           haha, this is my favorite part about Perfect's matches
Sep 14th 2017
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i dont think the Uso's and New Day can have a bad match
Sep 13th 2017
106
They absolutely do an incredible job together!
Sep 15th 2017
109
it's really a shame they were on the preshow of Summerslam
Sep 15th 2017
110
i love the evil uso's...
Sep 15th 2017
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      Yeah definitely check it out
Sep 15th 2017
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      its on the network
Sep 15th 2017
113
      Definitely watch the SummerSlam match...
Sep 15th 2017
116
New Day vs Usos in the Cell is being rumored. That would rule.
Sep 16th 2017
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      one of the only tag matches I could get excited for in the cell tbh
Sep 17th 2017
124
have we talked about old man vince coming back?
Sep 15th 2017
114
That was pretty crazy to see
Sep 15th 2017
115
It was a great segment...
Sep 15th 2017
117
They've done a handful of things very right over the last three weeks.
Sep 15th 2017
118
      I can see this feud going to more than one match...
Sep 16th 2017
119
Damn, RIP Bobby Heenan
Sep 17th 2017
121
Ugh, I mean we saw it coming but sad that it finally happened
Sep 17th 2017
122
One of the best to do it. RIP.
Sep 17th 2017
123
An absolute natural.
Sep 17th 2017
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Lol, he put on a SHOW in the 92 Rumble
Sep 17th 2017
126
That's one of my top moments for him on commentary
Sep 18th 2017
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RE: An absolute natural.
Sep 20th 2017
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RIP, glad he's no longer suffering...
Sep 18th 2017
128
"Jannetty tried to dive through the window to escape!"
Sep 20th 2017
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      RE: "Jannetty tried to dive through the window to escape!" <- LMFAO
Sep 20th 2017
136
      ARE YOU BLIND???
Sep 20th 2017
139
Alroght... I gave the Jinder experiment a fair shot
Sep 20th 2017
129
on the flip side: enjoying Natty as champ n/m
Sep 20th 2017
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RE: on the flip side: enjoying Natty as champ n/m
Sep 20th 2017
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RE: Alroght... I gave the Jinder experiment a fair shot
Sep 20th 2017
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      He is moving into the wrong kind of heat
Sep 20th 2017
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      if his work were half as good as his look he'd be incredible
Sep 20th 2017
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           Yep. On a certain level I'm glad they gave him a shot
Sep 21st 2017
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      Jinder has to accuse people of xenophobia
Sep 20th 2017
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           That's the point, right now he's the hypocritical heel
Sep 20th 2017
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           I just don't think it's very effective.
Sep 20th 2017
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           RE: That's the point, right now he's the hypocritical heel
Sep 20th 2017
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           the point is that, as presented, it's not a good gimmick by any standard
Sep 21st 2017
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           RE: Jinder has to accuse people of xenophobia
Sep 20th 2017
142
Prediction Series: No Mercy
Sep 21st 2017
146
I think we see Samoa Joe spoil Strowman's chance
Sep 22nd 2017
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yeah there's no chance this is a clean finish
Sep 22nd 2017
148
Damn... n/m
Sep 25th 2017
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RE: I think we see Samoa Joe spoil Strowman's chance
Sep 24th 2017
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I totally forgot about this.....
Sep 24th 2017
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Take 2. Glacier was a surprise entrant to Honor Rumble
Sep 22nd 2017
149
For Vince so loved his Reigns, he gave his only white hot character
Sep 24th 2017
152
Welp. Cancelling.
Sep 24th 2017
153
      If the fans Daniel Bryan it in support for Braun, Reigns is cooked
Sep 24th 2017
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           I just don't get the forced Brock mystique in 2017
Sep 25th 2017
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                I don't even care that Brock won
Sep 25th 2017
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                     the match made no sense whatsoever
Sep 25th 2017
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                          If anything , the Kimura should have crazed Braun
Sep 25th 2017
159
Anyone else think the Reigns/Cena match was a bit unusual?
Sep 25th 2017
160
I think everything with Cena is business-focused
Sep 25th 2017
161
Cena on Raw Talk was very interesting...
Sep 25th 2017
165
      listen to him on Edge and Christian's podcast
Sep 26th 2017
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           Thanks, I just listened...
Sep 26th 2017
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                RE: Thanks, I just listened...
Sep 26th 2017
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                     Yes, but I don't think that's something that rests solely with the wrest...
Sep 27th 2017
189
                          Or look at how they put the brakes on Cesaro
Sep 27th 2017
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I was saying the same thing to my friends
Sep 25th 2017
162
Yes! That's exactly how it came off to me watching it...
Sep 25th 2017
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The ramp thing was just playing with the crowd I think
Sep 25th 2017
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I misheard the crowd chant...
Sep 25th 2017
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RE: The ramp thing was just playing with the crowd I think
Sep 26th 2017
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RE: Anyone else think the Reigns/Cena match was a bit unusual?
Sep 25th 2017
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RE: Anyone else think the Reigns/Cena match was a bit unusual?
Sep 25th 2017
168
I can't wait for the arena groan when romey Rome kicks out of a F5
Sep 25th 2017
169
It took 3 to beat Taker so I bet Roman gets 4 and still wins
Sep 26th 2017
170
      ... after ONE spear.
Sep 26th 2017
173
Cena's Raw Talk interview showed a lot of respect for Roman
Sep 26th 2017
175
      he's all about kayfabe though, i don't think he would let that show.
Sep 26th 2017
178
isn't it because he's leaving to film the transformers movie?
Sep 26th 2017
179
      he also just signed on for a buddy cop movie with kumail nanjiani
Sep 26th 2017
182
I honestly found Enzo's 12-on-1 beatdown post RAW uncomfortable to watch...
Sep 26th 2017
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RE: I honestly found Enzo's 12-on-1 beatdown post RAW uncomfortable to w...
Sep 26th 2017
176
That's a difficult point to argue...
Sep 26th 2017
180
RE: I honestly found Enzo's 12-on-1 beatdown post RAW uncomfortable to w...
Sep 27th 2017
192
Why did they give him the belt?
Sep 26th 2017
177
If Enzo's turned heel, I'm not sure what he's done to make him a heel...
Sep 26th 2017
181
too over to fire, so every segment we'll remind you we hate him
Sep 26th 2017
185
      how big of an asshole can the guy be?
Sep 26th 2017
186
           HAHA
Sep 27th 2017
190
           supposedly the 205 ratings went back down this week
Sep 28th 2017
197
Natalya has had so much Botox she looks like she's wearing a mask
Sep 26th 2017
187
Ziggler as Taker now...Go and stay away dude.
Sep 26th 2017
188
I hope they do right by Rusev
Sep 27th 2017
193
Dude was OVER AS FUCK in a RUSSIAN TANK
Sep 28th 2017
195
Ultima Lucha Tres
Sep 27th 2017
194
I gotta rewatch
Sep 28th 2017
196
      UPDATE: goddamn that was brutal
Oct 08th 2017
200
HELL IN A CELL PREDICTION SERIES
Oct 04th 2017
198
GET. YOUR. PICKS. IN. (clap. clap. clapclapclap.)
Oct 08th 2017
199
RE: Shane silly spot watch
Oct 08th 2017
201
      Shane’s dumb as hell to still be doing that
Oct 08th 2017
204
The Good news: Seems Nak vs AJ at Mania is happening
Oct 08th 2017
202
Great event overall
Oct 08th 2017
203
man i was nervous as hell watching them fight on the cage
Oct 09th 2017
205
When the crowd booed as they came back down I was like "No, good!"
Oct 09th 2017
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      I got yelled at for asking my son if he can see the cage
Oct 09th 2017
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      RE: When the crowd booed as they came back down I was like "No, good!"
Oct 10th 2017
208
           Yeah I was hoping for this a while back. I'd love it.
Oct 10th 2017
210
Honestly? They should just go all out goofy with Bray Wyatt at this poin...
Oct 10th 2017
209
if we're getting Owens/Zayn vs the New Day or Usos... woa
Oct 10th 2017
211
That Shield reuinion was practically perfect...
Oct 10th 2017
212
I didnt like it because well everyone knew it was coming
Oct 10th 2017
213
      Yes can't argue with that part...
Oct 10th 2017
214
           this reunion is obviously to get Reigns in the good graces of fans
Oct 10th 2017
215
                I dunno, maybe I'm being a Mark but...
Oct 10th 2017
216
                the best Reigns is Shield Reigns
Oct 10th 2017
217
                     They tried to make him Rocky Cena. And he's not that
Oct 11th 2017
220
                Just don't give him written promos. Dude's not an actor.
Oct 11th 2017
219
                Yep. I've said it before: Reigns is best as The Big Homie
Oct 11th 2017
221
                     Yep. They moved him completely away from Ambrose.
Oct 12th 2017
222
                he'll be hated solo again. it's too forced. they just need to move on fr...
Oct 12th 2017
223
word is Neville walked out of Raw last night
Oct 11th 2017
218
when that audience realized Shield was coming through the crowd...WOO
Oct 16th 2017
224
can you imagine if they used the crowd entrance as the initial reunion?
Oct 17th 2017
226
*WHO* *THE* *FUCK* *CARES* *ABOUT* *KANE*
Oct 17th 2017
225
hopefully enough voters in Knox County!
Oct 17th 2017
227
TLC Predictions:
Oct 18th 2017
228
Picking Asuka. But I have the feeling there will be some dumb shenanigan...
Oct 18th 2017
229
the whole card looks a little too straight forward
Oct 18th 2017
230
      If they bait and switch us into a Sara Del Rey/Pumpkin Spice Balor match...
Oct 18th 2017
231
Is it genuinely Balor vs Abigail???
Oct 18th 2017
232
At worst, he's facing Bray in Oogie Boogie cosplay
Oct 18th 2017
233
There'sspeculation it's Paige.
Oct 18th 2017
235
      shit. Paige/Balor could be phenomenal too.
Oct 18th 2017
240
      At this point make it Daffney from tna
Oct 20th 2017
242
           Rosemary would be the move. That said, Serena Deeb WAS back in the MYC
Oct 20th 2017
244
                You know what that would be even better
Oct 20th 2017
245
They're actually calling it "The Demon vs. Sister Abigail"
Oct 18th 2017
234
      Don't know if I'm intrigued or not....
Oct 18th 2017
236
      I am absolutely not excited
Oct 18th 2017
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           I agree the last few weeks on RAW have been terrible...
Oct 19th 2017
241
      RE: They're actually calling it "The Demon vs. Sister Abigail"
Oct 18th 2017
238
Is this the worst PPV card of all time?
Oct 18th 2017
239
not quite, but it's really bad
Oct 20th 2017
243
      What is the worst card (on paper) ever?
Oct 20th 2017
246
           they may be the same answer
Oct 20th 2017
249
Its been reported that...
Oct 20th 2017
247
Roman and Bray out for TLC according to WWE.com
Oct 20th 2017
248
      Bray and Bo supposedly have Meningitis.
Oct 20th 2017
251
MAJOR MATCH CHANGES HAVE BEEN UPDATED
Oct 20th 2017
250
Speaking of Samoans named Joe. . . why no SmoJoe return?
Oct 20th 2017
252
This changes things
Oct 20th 2017
253
AJ vs Balor is basically just a replacement match to excite fans
Oct 20th 2017
257
      They may even be struggling to sell tickets
Oct 20th 2017
259
The show got better and worse at the same time...
Oct 20th 2017
254
very UFC of this show to fall apart the day before
Oct 20th 2017
255
I'm speechless...
Oct 20th 2017
256
I wonder if they'll kayfabe why Bray is out...
Oct 20th 2017
258
      Abigail needed to head to the Performance Center first.
Oct 20th 2017
260
RE: Is the sheet good to go?
Oct 22nd 2017
261
it's opening on my end
Oct 22nd 2017
262
for the purposes of bonus #3:
Oct 22nd 2017
263
      I want to change mine to 1
Oct 22nd 2017
264
      Can you change a pick for me
Oct 22nd 2017
265
           you got it.
Oct 22nd 2017
266
Asuka already getting the Nakamura misuse
Oct 22nd 2017
267
Jason Jordan blows. Like "Rocky Maiva" blows, and he ain't that.
Oct 22nd 2017
268
Angle in the Shield gear just reeks of Vince cheese
Oct 22nd 2017
269
oh, I know where this is going. This is gonna rule.
Oct 22nd 2017
270
Horrendous main event on so many levels.
Oct 22nd 2017
271
the dump truck is pleasantly appropriate
Oct 22nd 2017
273
      Fitting end to a garbage match.
Oct 22nd 2017
274
Michael Cole just won the night: "what's wrong with you?"
Oct 22nd 2017
272
We couldn't get Stone Cold Angle Face from jump?
Oct 22nd 2017
275
that's what I thought they were going to do. It seemed so obvious
Oct 22nd 2017
278
Also, is Miz still trolling Daniel Bryan with the Burgundy?
Oct 22nd 2017
276
pure comedy
Oct 22nd 2017
277
Well that was fucking stupid. But kinda dope. But really stupid. But kin...
Oct 24th 2017
279
RE: Well that was fucking stupid. But kinda dope. But really stupid. But...
Oct 24th 2017
280
RE: Well that was fucking stupid. But kinda dope. But really stupid. But...
Oct 24th 2017
284
RE: Well that was fucking stupid. But kinda dope. But really stupid. But...
Oct 24th 2017
281
I would've spun that invasion a little different...
Oct 24th 2017
285
The New Day out here being the best....lol
Oct 24th 2017
282
Hilarious!!!!
Oct 24th 2017
283
finally watched the TLC main event
Oct 24th 2017
286
RE: finally watched the TLC main event
Oct 24th 2017
287
      Oh we're def getting Brock vs. Roman for WM
Oct 25th 2017
289
I love this heel iteration of Sami Zayn.
Oct 24th 2017
288
The fact he's barely changed is what makes it so good
Oct 25th 2017
290
      The sarcastic skanking is the goddamned best, though.
Oct 26th 2017
291
yo, have we discussed Corbin vs Miz on Twitter ???
Oct 31st 2017
292
Man, I like Corbin alright
Oct 31st 2017
293
I still maintain that without the frog face and Jonathan taylor thomas h...
Oct 31st 2017
294
Corbin doesn't want Miz on the mic...
Oct 31st 2017
296
Once Roman (I'm hoping for Braun, but cmon) retires Brock
Nov 01st 2017
297
kayfabe he's the dumbest wrestler in the company
Nov 01st 2017
299
Yep. IMO he's wasted potential. Also, Usos vs The Bar would have been my...
Nov 01st 2017
302
Does anyone? If CM Punk came back, he'd get eaten alive.
Nov 01st 2017
303
RE: yo, have we discussed Corbin vs Miz on Twitter ???
Nov 01st 2017
298
Hi everyone...it's good to be back after a couple of month hiatus
Oct 31st 2017
295
They got rid of Emma? That sucks
Nov 01st 2017
300
They never viewed her on the level of the other Women
Nov 01st 2017
301
Omega v. Jericho at WK12
Nov 05th 2017
304
Dope!
Nov 05th 2017
305
I marked out
Nov 05th 2017
306
RE: Omega v. Jericho at WK12
Nov 06th 2017
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      word is he didnt tell WWE
Nov 07th 2017
309
           Seems like he has one of those contracts where he calls the shots
Nov 07th 2017
310
                he is not under contract right now
Nov 08th 2017
316
Thank you
Nov 06th 2017
308
OH SHIT!!!!!
Nov 07th 2017
311
If your reaction is to what I think it is
Nov 07th 2017
312
I hope this is what I think it is
Nov 07th 2017
313
Opps wrong thread. Thought this was the LeBron twitter nonstory post
Nov 07th 2017
314
      lol, I saw that headline this morning and shook my head
Nov 07th 2017
315
I kind of hate WWE for this
Nov 08th 2017
317
      On the other hand, imagine how the Brits must feel
Nov 08th 2017
318
      Bet they got those ratings tho
Nov 08th 2017
319
           there's never a wrong time to take the title off of Jinder Mahal
Nov 09th 2017
320
                Right...I’m actually considering getting my network sub. back
Nov 13th 2017
322
                     They couldn't let Brock vs. Jinder happen
Nov 13th 2017
323
                          Yup. Still can’t believe he had a 6 month reign though
Nov 13th 2017
324
                               yeah... I loved the shock of it initially
Nov 13th 2017
325
                               I figured AJ would take it for the SS match...
Nov 15th 2017
332
                                    at the same time "2-time WWE champion" is tough to picture
Nov 15th 2017
333
                                         Well it would appear that phase 1 was a failure...
Nov 15th 2017
334
Please don't let mushmouth Cesaro talk anymore
Nov 13th 2017
321
Yeah, I get that he wears the mouthguard to wrestle...
Nov 15th 2017
331
they don't deserve my attention after the Summer they had, but damn...
Nov 13th 2017
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Love New Day, but they're not exciting opponents for Shield to me
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the match doesn't make sense, you're right. But it will be great
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eh, their Usos feud got serious by the end
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So now the reunion is complete
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Y2Flound
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1. "You have it set to view only"
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2. "FIXED"
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also I should note that the preshow is probably starting at 6 Eastern. Haven't seen an official announcement but I believe that's the way it's been for 2 years now.

  

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3. "I'm SO glad we're not getting a boring ass Baron title run"
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Not saying Nakamura is for sure gonna be great, but to go from Randy, to Jinder, to Baron would kill anything the title had going for it.



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5. "RE: I'm SO glad we're not getting a boring ass Baron title run"
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>Not saying Nakamura is for sure gonna be great, but to go
>from Randy, to Jinder, to Baron would kill anything the title
>had going for it.
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Having an obvious heel foreign champ is actually a great call if they go straight into Nak. It's potentially solid mark reprogramming. Foreign = heel is an institution in rasslin.

  

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6. "RE: I'm SO glad we're not getting a boring ass Baron title run"
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>Having an obvious heel foreign champ is actually a great call
>if they go straight into Nak. It's potentially solid mark
>reprogramming. Foreign = heel is an institution in rasslin.


This^^^^

It's old school and it works if done right. So far, they have hit a mark....

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4. "RE: OKPWrassling Post: Summerfest & Fall PPVs"
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>Here's the Summerslam predictions, let me know if you have
>any questions. I will actually be there drinking a lot so I
>will update it whenever I roll out of bed on Monday. Also
>going to Takeover, this is gonna be a great weekend.
>
>http://bit.ly/2wguGEU

Enjoy! I'm prolly gonna watch takeover and summerfest in one long session. At least that'll allow me to skip some of the commercials/rando stuff. During all of it, I'll be playing that damn WWE Champions game. I'm addicted to level-ups and bullshit!

  

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7. "so i peruse the other posts and i have a question..."
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is the booking the "thing" now? like thats the story worth discussing?

seems odd to me

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8. "Booking always has and always will be worth discussing"
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>is the booking the "thing" now? like thats the story worth
>discussing?

>seems odd to me

That question seems odd to me. Pro wrestling is storytelling and psychology, and booking is essentially the script to said story.

Discussing booking= discussing the story=discussing pro wrestling.

Quality booking means letting guys ride on their strengths and not only listening to fan reactions but crafting a response to those reactions to maximize a return on that emotional investment.

It's pretty much the backbone of a successful promotion. Terrible booking contributed a great deal to the demise of WCW. Quality booking of characters in ways that accentuated their strengths instead of highlighting their weakness was a major factor in the rise of ECW.

None of the greats of yesteryear- yes, I said NONE- would be able to rise to their prior stature under this current culture without Vince making serious exceptions.

Modern WWE is quite literally the mostly tightly scripted and controlled product they've ever presented and it shows. 50/50 booking in WWE has lead to a general mediocre product that gets by in excellent ring work and brand loyalty. Everyone about even with everyone else and nobody is on any real journey. Yes, this stuff matters in creating an exciting and engaging product.

Booking isn't the thing "now", it is and always has been THE thing and is always worth discussing. Hulk Hogan very well might not happen if Vern Gagne stubbornly held fast to his initial booking of Hogan as a heel in the face of fans cheering him to the rafters.

Conversely, had Vince been savvy enough to listen and react to the incredibly negative fan reactions to the Roman Reigns project early on, Reigns would likely have come full circle by now as a considerably less polarizing baby face.

Vince today would have likely forced Steve Austin into his prefabricated Fang McFrost or Ice Dagger characters instead of letting him rock with the golden goose of a name Steve's wife picked out: Stone Cold, and booked him accordingly.

Asking if booking is worth discussing in a pro wrestling conversation is no different than Asking baseball fans What the point of discussing a manager's batter lineup and bullpen rotations. Even shoot combat sports like MMA and boxing rely heavily on Booking because that's how you sell a fight.

Booking is the creative direction that drives the story and the psychology behind it.

  

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9. "this deserves more than i can give right now. ill be back later."
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72. "Welp, it's later. "
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10. "it's the natural progression once you realize it's scripted though"
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>is the booking the "thing" now? like thats the story worth
>discussing?
>
>seems odd to me

I view it the same way as critiquing a TV show I like. The characters should achieve things/make decisions that make sense to them and the situation. Not to say that everything should be predictable. Surprises should happen fairly often but those can be good or bad too.

  

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11. "But at the same time, with Punk/Cena, we weren't talking about booking"
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Austin/Hart. nWo in the beginning. Just about every great angle, you talk about how the performers connected and how great the matches were. It's when the booking seams are so visible (Women's MiTB, nWo/Sting blowoff, Dolph Ziggler's entire career, Bray Wyatt, Cena/Ryder/Kane) that you complain about how things should be booked.

Especially now in the era of 50/50 booking where you see the PPV match 5 different ways before the PPV, wins and losses get traded, and nothing seems to mean anything, it's like fresh water in the middle of the desert when you get anything like the WM30 Daniel Bryan angle. And even that was almost fucked up by WWE insisting on Batista having a big triumphant return.

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12. "Every discussion about what happens is about booking "
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Whether or not people say the word "booking", that's what's being discussed.

Austin/Hart?

People talk about Steve passing out with that bloody face and not giving up. That was a fantastic booking decision that understood the things that made the character work. When we talk about how someone connects with the crowd, it's booking.

When we talk about how great that early NWO angle was, it was because it was booked so well with a slow, patient burn.

The pro wrestling media built that business on discussion heavily centered around booking.

Punk/Cena? Booking was front and center. Everyone was surprised at the booking decision to let Punk go off with his pipe bomb... And people wondered if they would actually let him go over on Cena, especially with his contract expiring, and particularly in light of Vince's penchant toward jobbing people in their hometown. Then when Punk left for the next month people spoke about the choice to have him running around with the strap off screen and when he returned we discussed the choice to put him with triple h.

A booking.

The booking of Daniel Bryan was a very hot topic throughout that run.

Pro wrestling discussion is, nearly by definition, booking discussion, with or without the buzz word itself.

  

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13. "much of the reception of Cena/Punk was about booking"
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1. that they let the pipe bomb happen

2. that they let cena get pinned clean by a fan favorite

>Austin/Hart. nWo in the beginning. Just about every great
>angle, you talk about how the performers connected and how
>great the matches were.

Somewhat disagree for the reasons CT listed, but also the discussion of booking has become much more prevalent in recent times because fans know more about the business than they ever did.

  

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14. "Your issue seems to just be with the word "booking""
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Like others have said, simply by dissecting if what happened was good or bad we are talking about the booking in the same way that we are talking about the writing when we discuss if we liked this week's Game of Thrones storyline.

When things are great you hear less complaining, but when we say, "that was so awesome the way this happened, I never saw it coming" That is complimenting the booking, even if we don't say the word.

Discussing the booking is how we analyze wrestling. We can also discuss someone's ability to carry out an interview/angle/match, but as for what actually happened- the story told and the end result- that is booking.

  

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15. "https://media.sticker.market/gif/neil-degrasse-tyson-589faf8bd74108533f6..."
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https://media.sticker.market/gif/neil-degrasse-tyson-589faf8bd74108533f6502d4-g.gif

Sorry, y'all.

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17. "https://goo.gl/images/87kPhy"
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https://goo.gl/images/87kPhy

  

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19. "cmon, man. I ain't need to see that shit."
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Fuckin Softball Sid, man.

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21. "^^soft as Sid's knees"
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Suck it up, sweetheart. You'll survive.

  

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18. "Six new episodes of Southpaw is up!!!"
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About to check these out now

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20. "https://media.giphy.com/media/uTuLngvL9p0Xe/giphy.gif"
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https://media.giphy.com/media/uTuLngvL9p0Xe/giphy.gif

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25. "RE: Six new episodes of Southpaw is up!!!"
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>About to check these out now

Glorious. So glorious. Saturday morning good times. Here I go.

  

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22. "Do they do a call back to SS97 main event with Styles/KO/Shane? "
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In the main event of SummerSlam 1997 HBK, as special referee, tries to hit rival Bret Hart with a steel chair, but Bret ducks and Shawn drills Undertaker by accident. Bret covers Taker and Shawn apprehensively makes the 3 count, awarding Bret the win and title.

*****

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23. "Yeah, it's an interesting one..."
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I'm looking at it as a set-up to a Shane/KO match though.

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26. "RE: Do they do a call back to SS97 main event with Styles/KO/Shane? "
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>In the main event of SummerSlam 1997 HBK, as special referee,
>tries to hit rival Bret Hart with a steel chair, but Bret
>ducks and Shawn drills Undertaker by accident. Bret covers
>Taker and Shawn apprehensively makes the 3 count, awarding
>Bret the win and title.

That almost has to be the finish now that it is in my head.

I'm probably going to watch NXT and summerfest back to back Sunday.

  

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24. "IMPORTANT NOTES ON BONUS QUESTIONS:"
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SINGLES match was meant to disqualify the Fatal 4-way. I have realized in both my pools that this wasn't clear enough. Also...

great12k6: You skipped Bonus 3
Selassie: I have no idea what your last 4 answers mean and suspect that someone might have written over your stuff. You also have Bonus 3 blank.
Oak: You skipped Bonus 1
y2Flound: SD Tag team was already announced as preshow.

Actually how about everyone check over their answers. This is getting messy.

  

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27. "Crowd just chanted "Where's your briefcase?" at Corbin "
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Hot crowd. Gonna be a fun one.

  

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28. "Incendiary playing AB's theme live. JR announcing. "
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Great start until the cameraman fucked up and Kevin Dunn'd AB's backflip spot.

  

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29. "The crowd was CRAZY hot for Asuka/Ember"
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I hope it came across on screen cause I can't overstate the frenzy people were in at that point. This show is a great lesson in show structure. On paper 5 matches that weren't very personal feuds looks measly when compared to the previous 2 shows, but everything on the card just built the crowd up perfectly. Tremendous storytelling by everyone involved (Gargano/Almas especially). There was also a tag match with the UK guys that'll probably air this week and you guys should look out for that. Going in I was disappointed there wasn't a Bate-Dunne title rematch, so this was a pleasant surprise.

  

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30. "You watch these big NXT shows and forget it's WWE"
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It's so confusing, that these NXT shows could be so well-balanced and these characters could be so fully realized while Raw is nearly unwatchable.

It's the same company. Same resources. Most of the top guys on TV now came from NXT!

How good would a Hunter/Regal-produced Raw and Smackdown show be?

  

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31. "I can't remember a time where NXT "overbooked" things"
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i'm sure it's happened, but they usually keep it simple. WWE puts out SO much content that they're always trying to outsmart the audience and it usually just convolutes everything. It seems like every WWE ppv suffers from some overbooking. Like a ref gets knocked down and then it doesn't come into play or Great Khali interferes and then disappears again. If I was a casual fan I don't know how I'd keep track of it all when half of it is thrown away anyhow. NXT's attention-to-detail in the storytelling is partially a result of it's limited programing, but it still amazes me the big leagues can't take some notes.

  

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32. "The one complaint I have is I don't know who those 3 dudes at the end ar..."
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All I know is that they're midgets next to McIntyre and the end of the show and the attack on Sanity was just kinda like...ok
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33. "reDragon and Adam Cole, ROH guys. And they're excellent additions to NXT"
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Roode is on his way out soon. Word is they want a faction of former ROH guys so my guess is they add either KO or Roderick Strong to the mix.

It's a good move to replenish the roster with Roode, Asuka and AOP likely on their way out.

  

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48. "I still maintain that they have the roster to be able to do what NXT doe..."
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They just have to juggle the stories.

The Brock shit, for the most part, works largely because Brock's not there every week to LOL CENA all over everyone. Then on the other hand, you see every other PPV match (especially the tag division) played out five different ways even in the runup to like a GABF.

They've done OK when they go to "local talent" to build ppl up (Braun's build worked perfectly for exactly that reason -- even if it did give us fuckin Ellsworth).

Basic problem is that they think they're building conflict by having most storylines include escalating interaction. The problem is that they're just exhausting that conflict until the majority of the viewing audience doesn't give a shit any more. Granted, the Summerslam main is the exception, because holy shit did the match pay off, but you're not going to be able to do pullapart-pullapart-pullapart-HOSS with every angle.

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34. "Cesaro tearing up the beach ball is the highlight of the show so far..."
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I mean, the bar is pretty low to this point but still awesome.

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35. "I marked out hard for that"
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Him ripping up a beach ball being thrown around the crowd. Holy shit this PPV has been not good. NXT was pretty amazing from front to back.

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36. "Nothing save Cass-Show has been actively terrible..."
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But there's been nothing terribly memorable either with the exception of New Day-Usos, which was on the pre-show.

The Shield vs. The Bar is probably match of the main show so far, followed by AJ-KO which got bogged down in the Shane stuff. Naomi-Natalya was a nice little surprise. Everything else has either been meh or a time filler seemingly designed to ensure this crowd is worn out by the time the main event happens.

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37. "Crowd seems quiet as hell the last couple hours "
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Which probably underscores the problem....these things are too damn long. I don't want to do anything for 6 hours straight.

  

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49. "RE: Nothing save Cass-Show has been actively terrible..."
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>But there's been nothing terribly memorable either with the
>exception of New Day-Usos, which was on the pre-show.
>
>The Shield vs. The Bar is probably match of the main show so
>far, followed by AJ-KO which got bogged down in the Shane
>stuff. Naomi-Natalya was a nice little surprise. Everything
>else has either been meh or a time filler seemingly designed
>to ensure this crowd is worn out by the time the main event
>happens.

And to make it worse, cass fucked around during that bullshit raw match and might be hella hurt. Knee. I thought it was a well-executed work but it is being sold as legit. Damn shame even if I was terrified that cass was gonna be tall Rusev in 6 months.

  

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50. "RE: Nothing save Cass-Show has been actively terrible..."
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When he pounded the mat I felt it was legitimate.

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52. "I have no idea where this angle is/was supposed to heading anyway..."
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I don't know how much truth there is to the rumors that Enzo's got nuclear heat backstage but I can't see the weird inertia of his "feud" with Cass being anything other than a punishment or a giant rib. I mean, it's just him getting his head kicked off, week after week after week. The "logical" progression would've been Enzo turning on Big Show at Summerslam to get back in Cass's good graces and reforming the team as heels, but nope—just another boot to the face.

And the shitty thing is that if it's supposed to punish Enzo, it's killing Cass, too. He should've moved on to something else a month ago. Instead, he's been stuck just, well, kicking his former partner's face off on an endless loop. And now he's hurt, apparently legitimately. Pretty shitty all around.

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38. "What garbage, lol..."
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I thought Jinder was leaving as champion but thought they'd do have him Honky Tonk Man his way out with a DQ or something. Pinning Nakamura there, even with the typical Singh Bros. interference, is dumb as hell. Dude couldn't even apply his finisher correctly.

They gotta put the belt on Strowman or Joe after that. If Reigns wins this crowd might legit riot.

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39. "*bites tongue*"
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40. "all Shield guys wore red. Strowman or Brock getting a triple powerbomb?"
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41. "If they're smart enough to go full heel with the Shield, then Strowman....."
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But with Nakamura losing I dunno if they go with that finish. But obviously that Shield storyline has to make its way to Reigns eventually.

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53. "Given that they protected Punk's reign when they formed . . . "
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and the last 3 months of Reigns/Strowman maybe they reunite in full at No Mercy? Roman can take the IC belt off Miz to do the whole "Shield own all the secondary belts" bit too.

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54. "Here's my ideal booking scenario..."
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I don't know exactly how these events would be spaced out, but you have Braun win the title at No Mercy, then have the Shield reunite and help Reigns take the title from Braun—Braun's over enough that I think would negate any face heat they'd get from the reunion. Then they run roughshod over Raw, and Reigns goes into Mania as the heel champ vs. Cena, with Cena going over for No. 17.

Either way, seems like the only way for WWE to get the reaction they want out of the inevitable Reigns-Cena showdown is to have someone go in as a full-fledged heel, and we know it ain't gonna be Cena.

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59. "Might work, BUT..."
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Is WWE savvy enough to avoid using the triple powerbomb? That move is so over I think it would prevent them from getting over as heels

  

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63. "I'm banking on the fans loving Braun enough to get them over as heels..."
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They'll have to use the move, and it will look especially cool if they use it on Braun, but I think the crowd hates Reigns enough and is so into Braun that if it's a deal where three guys are needed to beat one dude they'll treat them accordingly.

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60. "Its gonna be Brock/Reigns at WM "
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61. "I know that was the early rumor, doesn't mean they'll stick to it..."
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For one thing, that's giving Vince a little too much credit when it comes to sticking with a yearlong plan. Then you've got Brock looking to give UFC another try—I don't follow MMA, so maybe the Jon Jones news throws a wrench in those plans, but either way the dude is notoriously fickle about
pro-wrestling in general—and Cena coming over to Raw. A lot can change between now and then.

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62. "Jones just guaranteed Brock isnt goin anywhere "
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65. "Well, still..."
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Just because the rumor was one thing doesn't mean it's etched in stone.

Either way, based on how he's been booked since WM, I sense that they may finally be shifting away from the idea of Reigns as the brand's top face. Maybe reforming the Shield will be their last-ditch attempt to get him over as a face, and have him finally vanquish Brock after a year with the title or something. But he also just ate a clean pin in a match where he was basically the fourth most important participant.

Plus, I don't know how much longer they're gonna want to wait before having Cena win his 17th title. Seems like he's being brought over to Raw for a reason.

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42. "this fuckin rules"
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43. "Quite possibly the hoss fight to end all hoss fights. Holy shit."
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Goddamn.

Seriously.

This shit.

Summer Slam 2016: TOTALLY HOSSED OUT!!
Braised Beast a/Extra Hoss!

Jeebus.

  

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45. "RE: Quite possibly the hoss fight to end all hoss fights. Holy shit."
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>Goddamn.
>
>Seriously.
>
>This shit.
>
>Summer Slam 2016: TOTALLY HOSSED OUT!!
>Braised Beast a/Extra Hoss!
>
>Jeebus.

When Samos Joe is the least hossy dude in a 4-man match, you know it's going down. And it did. I hope they don't miss the boat with Strowman after actually doing well enough to build him tho. Him going around throwing folks into and off of shit as champ is money on the table. The shield would have to reunite to beat him and it could all work out.

  

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44. "What the fuck happened during that finish?"
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That was such an awkward, choppy, disjointed finish.

Very odd.

  

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46. "Saved a bland show. Established a new title. Strowman's a real star."
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Everyone got their offense in. It looked and felt violent.

Brock ain't dumb, he knows there's money in a Strowman program - "sure I'll take two table bumps!" (Heyman's faux weeping while the table was on top of Brock was just beautiful)

Roman: The superman punch is so goddamn dumb. You're 250 dude. But whatever.

The Universal Title became THE belt with that match. And for contrast, you got clown Jinder Mahal who know one is bought in on.

We'll see when they pull the trigger on Strowman. Could be, like, SOON. It's gonna take some creativity to keep him hot. And to keep him as a fan favorite, not a babyface per se, is the right move but could prove challenging. But you worry about that stuff later. For now you've got yourself the big money hoss you wanted Ryback to be, except even bigger and more charismatic. Strike while the iron is hot, print money, and never look back.

  

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47. "I was initially bummed they didn't take the belt off Lesnar but..."
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... there's obviously a lot of money in having Braun dethrone Brock in a singles match, and with the way that match was booked that *has* to be where they're going. Not sure if they'll draw it out but this is so obvious not even the idiots in creative could fuck this up.

As was said, that saved the show and will go down as a pretty legendary match.

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51. "SMH, they're booing Sasha Banks now?"
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Wrestling fans are some clowns.

  

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55. "1 year ago exactly I tweeted this (maybe I stole it, I don't remember)"
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"You either die an indie darling or live long enough to see yourself become the Cena."

Don't even remember who it was about, but it holds just as true today about wrestling fans. I'm guessing it was when the fans were booing the Rollins/Balor match

  

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58. "Yeah, basically"
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They don't like ANY face that's on top. It's corny.

Probably would've turned on Bryan too if he didn't get hurt right after winning the title.

  

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66. "Bookmark this post for when they hate Braun by Rumble 2019"
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71. "Disagree. Vince kills every top star he has. "
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It's a long ass list of poorly booked top guys who had the crowd in the palm of their hand one minute and people either rolling their eyes or lukewarm the next.

Reigns
Seth
Sasha
Bailey
Dolph
Ryback
Dean
Ryder

Plenty more where that came from. Each of these had a white hot moment in time where wwe proceeded to go away from the things that made them hot, failed to properly refine/upgrade into a more main event style act, etc.

It's a whole lot of failure in the main event scene and if the fans hate Braun, I bet it's a result of undisciplined or lackluster booking.

  

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56. "Bobby Roode just looks right on a show like Smackdown"
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57. "*glorious"
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64. "Finally watched Summerslam last night. Pretty good."
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Somebody said "bland," but while not much really popped me, there weren't any real clunkers either.

  

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67. "sounds like they're sending off Asuka with class"
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Vince: give me Asuka now with dragon dancers and a translator manager

Hunter: how about we just do it like adults?


http://uproxx.com/prowrestling/asuka-vacates-nxt-championship-pics-video/2/

  

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68. "lol...I suspect he says, or at least thinks, this quite a bit:"
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>Hunter: how about we just do it like adults?

  

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69. "Well looks like I was wrong about Cena-Reigns at WM..."
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I forgot this company no longer has the patience to foreshadow a match and actually wait to do it, and they've got like 87 PPVs to fill before then, anyway. Meltzer did say it had been strongly considered as the WM main, though.

I guess that doesn't mean they couldn't do the rematch and make it for the title at that point I don't know why you'd blow one of the last big "for the first time ever" money matches you've got left on a B show like No Mercy, especially when you're already doing your *other* money match on the same show.

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73. "Since they did the Shield triple threat at Battleground '16 all bets are..."
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especially
>when you're already doing your *other* money match on the same
>show.

But it does surprise me they're doing BOTH of these on No mercy

  

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75. "Football season is back"
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Can't afford to lose more viewers

  

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76. "They were treading water to the max from Mania to SS"
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So I can't complain that they're giving everything away. Could force them to get more creative next mania too.

  

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82. "I think this is the start of a long Reigns Cena series"
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Likely that would end at Mania with a Roman win.

Cena will take this one, probably another match at Rumble with another Cena win or false finish and then a mania match.

Start the process now, see how they work and let it blow off at Mania without having to make it an every week feud.

  

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77. "they did Wyatts/Shield at the show BEFORE Mania..."
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and Evolution/Shield the two shows AFTER

three mega matches, sandwiching a completely forgettable Kane and New Age Outlaws vs the Shield match at Wrestlemania

  

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70. "Damn Roman is still terrible on the mic"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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74. "I thought he did alright but Cena still mopped the floor with him"
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Felt like 98% real and I loved it. Cena has kinda cheekily broken the 4th wall before but never to that extent.

  

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78. "watched today. Torn on this but was entertained"
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Tue Aug-29-17 03:47 PM by Tiger Woods

  

          

on one hand: should Cena have tried harder to put Roman over? Three straight Mania main events, ended Undertaker, multi-time champion...dude's resume is stellar so far.

on the other hand: nahhhhh that shit was fire!

I don't know what to make of it, I can't determine if it was more helpful or harmful but I liked it. ( the part about "cmon pal, it's a promo learn to do it" I thought was a little messed up)

I wish someone would just slow Roman Reigns down and help him realize all of the things he IS that John Cena ISN'T - specifically, Reigns is a dad and actual athlete, Cena pretends to be everyone's dad and just lifts a lot of weights. You could win some people over there.

  

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79. "RE: watched today. Torn on this but was entertained"
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ive only watched for a year but hasnt the wwe been pushing Reigns for a few years now? Why should Cena be going out of his way to do something Roman should have done on his own by now?

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83. "cena's at the point in his career..."
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where he should be the vet that's putting people over. reigns isn't the greatest but i wouldn't put the blame on him for all the boos. 70% of those boos are people that cheered him in the shield and turned when wwe pushed him down people's throats.

  

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85. "he has got to speak up for his character at some point"
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He has to know why people dont like him. Its pretty obvious to everyone not named Vince McMahon. Ive heard it several times in interviews with all the Shield members how they were shooting shit down left and right to protect themselves when they were the Shield. Now all of a sudden he cant speak up? He was too busy cashing them Wrestlemania Main Event checks to care. I think he is still the highest in merch sales not named John Cena. So he is still getting paid so he probably could care less. Until he gets murdered in front of 15,000 people and a couple of million on TV. Maybe this lights a fire under his ass. But Cena definitely shouldnt waste energy on helping this guy get over when the WWE machine cant do it.

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86. "Only 2 things will get Reigns over at this point"
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1) Reigns himself

2) A drastic change in booking (i.e. a heel turn, cause even a Shield reunion is a short term solution)

The second is seemingly not happening so it's gotta be on Roman. Cena can launch all the superlatives in the world at him and it won't matter one bit. No one will buy in who hasn't already... but when he calls him out for not being shit??? NOW we're paying attention. NOW Reigns can actually do something with this. Will he? Idk, but the Cena vs. Another face schtick where he compliments the guy all the way up to the fight won't do shit here and will probably make the feud forgettable.

  

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80. "I interpreted it more as a challenge to Reigns than a burial"
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I believe Cena has more pull backstage than he admits and has refused to put over some young guys he doesn't feel are worthy (most recently Corbin), but this situation is unique imo. This is not a young guy that needs the rub and isn't getting it, it's a young guy who has gotten the rub over and over again and hasn't really earned it. That's not to say he's a bum cause there are few who have the PPV match resume he has over the past few years, but when he gets on the mic it's a real snoozefest. Cena has been handed all the same opportunities, but when he gets on the mic you get it.

So in Cena's eyes: he's a made man but still has to earn it and now John is forcing him to step up to the plate. I'm all for it. I'm really intrigued to see how Reigns responds over the next few weeks. Even if he loses this match/feud I doubt Vince gets off board completely. They've invested WAY too much time and effort to turn back now, and a big loss can be used as a stepping stone or the wrinkle his character so desperately needs.

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>I don't know what to make of it, I can't determine if it was
>more helpful or harmful but I liked it. ( the part about "cmon
>pal, it's a promo learn to do it" I thought was a little
>messed up)

I get that, but the reason these meta promos pop the crowd so much is the adult crowd says "finally they're not treating us like morons." If everything was meta it would suck ass, but it works for these big programs in the modern era that have the future of the company at stake. When they portrayed Roman as a Daniel Bryan-style underdog being held down by the authority it was IMPOSSIBLE to suspend disbelief. This is both fun and doesn't treat us like idiots.

  

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81. "Roman kinda sorta did ok but not really..."
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As soon as he called him a "fake bitch" it was over as it was complete desperation. From there he went the "part time shovel digging" route that everyone else does so it was definitely 100% over from there and Cena let him know it. I don't blame Roman though - Cena is a master at the talking game and he proved that once again. For anyone that feuds with Cena going forward, they HAVE HAVE HAVE to stop using the part-time lines because it's not original at all.
Like everyone else, I thought it came off legit - the part where Cena pounced on him for losing his trail of thought was vicious.

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84. "Yeah, the "Fake Bitch thing was where he lost me too"
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He was doing fine till them, but as Punk said to Cena a few years ago "Your arms are too short to box with God."

> they HAVE HAVE HAVE to stop using the
>part-time lines because it's not original at all.

Plus that set up Cena for the knockout blow at the end. "I do this part-time better than you could ever do this full-time. "

Even If Cena had let him run his mouth for a few minutes and then ONLY said that he would have sonned him cause it's blatantly true.

  

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87. "Definitely..."
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In terms of that knockout blow, you're absolutely right - Cena's sooo good on the mic, if you come at him with the same thing everyone else has been saying for over a year then his responses will only get better (as Roman found out).

It's interesting though because how would you go at Cena? I think Punk genuinely did it best with the "you are what you hate" angle which was genius. Took me a while to find it but this promo from Punk (at the 20min mark) is epic (the whole thing is being honest): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FouccjzEEPU

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89. "good question. He no-sells most opponent's promos"
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which is annoying and makes it tough to get to him, but he only started no-selling Roman when he got to the part-timer stuff so I think Reigns was on the right path. The "You don't matter as much as you think you do" stuff was good even if it's only partially true. I think acting above it all may work because people are gonna boo Reigns regardless and that will feed the fire without changing the character too much. I'm all for guys who are normally faces working heelish against Cena. He's a boy scout, so it works. Reigns can also point out that people were bored with the company because of Cena and he and the Shield had to rescue the company. "Wrestling was cool again once we showed up." Again, only partially true, but who cares?

  

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92. "You're right. Ironically, Cena wrote Roman's promo for him..."
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Had Roman said "You're not as big a deal as you think you are - you ain't main evented Mania in 5 years, you opened at Summerfest and you're telling me that I'm not doing MY job?!?!"

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93. "Batista wasn't smart enough for his job either, but they protected him"
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The more I've thought about it, the more I've come to think it was completely unfair of them to put Reigns out there like that. It's not a prerequisite that top guys have to be great promos - Ultimate Warrior's promos were ridiculous.

  

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94. "RE: Batista wasn't smart enough for his job either, but they protected h..."
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Warriors promo's were ridiculous but you believed the shit he said. That shit got people hyped. He said that nonsense with passion and it worked with the mad man from Parts Unknown.

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90. "Cena laying the accent on so thick, yuck "
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91. "I feel like mocking his "passionate" promos is the way to go"
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Those ones where he gets all dramatic and starts ranting and yelling about how passionate he is.

  

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88. "cena ran over him it was brutal. roman needed Southwest Airlines."
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95. "Anyone been watching the Mae Young classic (no spoilers not on network y..."
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I know they filmed everything up to the semis already so I only want to talk about what is on the network at this point which is first 2 rounds.

I'm really enjoying it, even more than the CWC. I think JR on announcement may be the difference between the 2.

It's funny not knowing anyone so everytime I think someone is going to go far they seem to lose right away. Lacey Evans is a great example.

The girl from Straight Edge Society is in and they were pushing her comeback from alcoholism and ruining her career storyline then she just lost in the 2nd round so I clearly have no idea what's happening.

The forced in 4 horsewomen vs 4 horsewomen feud makes it obvious Shayna Baszler is going far in this thing and they have a storyline planned, but outside of that it feels very cool to watch.

  

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103. "I need to play catch up today"
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I watched the first four that were released now I need to watch the updated shows. Gonna try to knock them all out before the final afters smackdown tonight.

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96. "Dolph Zigger has been the same "it's not fair!" whiner for like five yea..."
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go figure it out, carve out a niche, and develop an actual character other than "did with six pack who wears pink"

The Miz figured it out.

Good riddance

  

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97. "I want to like him too"
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he can wrestle and he is believable on the mic. But this whole heel turn has been weak. I didnt mind the gimmick thief thing he did. But I am not going to believe you as a heel when you are rocking metallic silver tights with an American flag and your graphics are hot pink. Get some new gear and graphics at least.

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98. "Lol, his gear is baffling"
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The saddest part is EVERYONE was begging for a heel run for him... and THIS is what he does with it?

  

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100. "His problem is that face turn on the cash-in"
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He was hot fire as a heel with AJ and Big E as his team. But, whereas someone like Kevin Owens knows how to play with a crowd to stay heel when he's supposed to be heel, Ziggler bought the reaction too much, and WWE had no choice but to turn him face. That CAN work great - see Corporate-to-People's Champ era Rock. But they didn't do any of the ground work. And then when he was making progress, they nerfed his Survivor Series momentum because they had to have Face Roman doing Big Dog things.

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99. "The entire gimmick is so dumb in kayfabe terms"
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So you say you aren't successful because you don't have a stupid gimmick like the fans want and that nobody can beat you in a wrestling ring, yet he loses all his matches.

So is his gimmick basically a smarky fan who says the WWE picks me to lose matches because I don't do dumb things? I know they operate in the wrestling is fake world a lot, but that seems a bit much.

  

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101. "They've done an excellent job using Reigns and Cena to rehab JJ"
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We'll see if they find a way to continue this trajectory.

Cena and Reigns is must see right now.

Braun is made. He's a revelation.

I LOVE The Bar. I hope they have two more years together.

I also like the loose Hardy/ Shield-Lite alliance. The tag scene is nice right now.

I've hated this recent wwe run but these last three weeks have built nicely.


  

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102. "The Bar's interview with Jericho was outstanding. "
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104. "if Dolph never actually wrestles, maybe it's a better gimmick"
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but so far he still seems like a pussy.

KO got the hot program doe. Can't believe Vince signed off on all of that, but damn if it didn't land with impact.

  

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105. "This Ziggler thing couldn't bore me any more than it does"
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His complaints make little sense as a shoot and even less sense in kayfabe.

  

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107. "I'd be all for him showing up in a Mr. Perfect style singlet next week "
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and getting down to business. He could pull it off- he's got a beautiful dropkick, bumps like a motherfucker, and he's got the spaghetti hair that turns into a puff by the end of the match.

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108. "haha, this is my favorite part about Perfect's matches"
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and he's got
>the spaghetti hair that turns into a puff by the end of the
>match.

he looked like a crazy person after each match.

  

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106. "i dont think the Uso's and New Day can have a bad match"
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every single time they absolutely kill it. That was a really really good match and they only got 1 full segment.

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109. "They absolutely do an incredible job together!"
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110. "it's really a shame they were on the preshow of Summerslam"
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I think I've pegged them as match of the night on every PPV they've been on and they were a tough act to follow that night. I was pretty excited for this feud and it has topped my expectations. New Day will still need to move into a different phase to keep things fresh, but this extended their run for at least a few months. Repeating battle rap lines notwithstanding, the Evil Usos have been outstanding. Their mic work has improved considerably and I think their ring work has too (even with less comfortable wrestling clothes!).

  

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111. "i love the evil uso's..."
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i still haven't watched their summerslam match, i hope it's on the network. i've heard it was right up there for match of the night.

  

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112. "Yeah definitely check it out"
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>i still haven't watched their summerslam match, i hope it's
>on the network. i've heard it was right up there for match of
>the night.

They upload the preshows. It is tough to judge just cause the fatal 4way was CRAZY (everyone was losing their minds in the building), but Usos and New Day was definitely better technically. It wasn't until the Raw tag match that people started to wake up again. Nothing could follow it.

  

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113. "its on the network"
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Iwatched it like 3 days after

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116. "Definitely watch the SummerSlam match..."
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It absolutely was match of the night!

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120. "New Day vs Usos in the Cell is being rumored. That would rule."
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124. "one of the only tag matches I could get excited for in the cell tbh"
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The fact that that all 5 wrestlers are great but aren't particularly known for their hardcore skills makes me curious to see what they do with it. Big E's through the ropes spear always makes me mark out so I bet he'll have something up his sleeve. They've yet to disappoint so they can probably do something fun with any stipulation. Also when they force mediocre singles feuds into the cell it's a huge bummer so this is probably the best call.

KO/Shane in a cell should be pretty lit too as long as they don't make it too long. Jinder has been whatever but I'm actually digging Natalya as champ. Smackdown is mostly back on track after a rough few months.

  

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114. "have we talked about old man vince coming back?"
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...and going hardway no less?!

  

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115. "That was pretty crazy to see"
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70+ year old billionaire taking a head butt that's so hard it busts him open? That's a crazy man right there.

  

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117. "It was a great segment..."
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I love how KO manipulated that situation into being *allowed* to beat him up.

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118. "They've done a handful of things very right over the last three weeks."
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This was one of them.

Hopefully it's the beginning in a stature promotion for KO

  

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119. "I can see this feud going to more than one match..."
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I think Shane needs the win as he's lost to Taker and AJ since his return so I can see Shane winning at HITC but losing to KO afterwards maybe?

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121. "Damn, RIP Bobby Heenan"
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*****

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122. "Ugh, I mean we saw it coming but sad that it finally happened"
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Or maybe better in reality because I'm sure the last few years for him were not very great.

The GOAT manager, one of the GOAT announcers and the standard for all heel work on the microphone.

  

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123. "One of the best to do it. RIP."
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125. "An absolute natural."
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The perfect heel manager/commentator. I'm kinda glad I've only discovered his work as an adult because I had so much appreciation for it immediately. His commentary on the '92 Rumble where he promises to be good if Flair wins and then IMMEDIATELY rubs it in everyone's face after Flair wins is what always sticks in my mind.

  

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126. "Lol, he put on a SHOW in the 92 Rumble"
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I had that on tape as a kid, I watched that Rumble all the time and cracked up at Heenan every time.

  

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127. "That's one of my top moments for him on commentary"
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The man absolutely killed it.

R.I.P. Brain

Think I'll watch the 92 Rumble again while I'm at work, they should have shut this place down for him passing anyway!

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132. "RE: An absolute natural."
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>The perfect heel manager/commentator. I'm kinda glad I've
>only discovered his work as an adult because I had so much
>appreciation for it immediately. His commentary on the '92
>Rumble where he promises to be good if Flair wins and then
>IMMEDIATELY rubs it in everyone's face after Flair wins is
>what always sticks in my mind.


Great moment....lol

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128. "RIP, glad he's no longer suffering..."
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he looked to be in bad shape over the last few years.

  

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130. ""Jannetty tried to dive through the window to escape!""
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My favorite line ever uttered in all of wrestling. RIP

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136. "RE: "Jannetty tried to dive through the window to escape!" <- LMFAO"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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139. "ARE YOU BLIND???"
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129. "Alroght... I gave the Jinder experiment a fair shot"
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But his promos are really bad and they're all the same. His physicality is impressive and the entrance is pretty dope, but he needs some acting school.

  

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131. "on the flip side: enjoying Natty as champ n/m"
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134. "RE: on the flip side: enjoying Natty as champ n/m"
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Cat Lady!!!!!! lol

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133. "RE: Alroght... I gave the Jinder experiment a fair shot"
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>But his promos are really bad and they're all the same. His
>physicality is impressive and the entrance is pretty dope, but
>he needs some acting school.


He gets heat though...It's that old school wrestling heat....lol....

He pushing those Iron Sheik buttons....I have no beef...

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135. "He is moving into the wrong kind of heat"
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People are mad because his experiment as champ sucks. He had the crowd on his side at the beginning of his run, smarks were into it, but they've turned on him because it sucks.

His promos are stale, his matches are very bad and his run is a giant dud in the middle of a great time for storylines.

Get the belt off of him, start moving into feuds like Nak vs KO for the title and let Jinder be a midcard heel where he belongs. It's failing badly

  

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138. "if his work were half as good as his look he'd be incredible"
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but this is his ceiling I'm afraid

  

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145. "Yep. On a certain level I'm glad they gave him a shot"
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I'm just annoyed that they went and ran with every shitty, obviuous, un-creative and uninspired element they could have run with.

More annoying to me is that this could have easily been an excellent Del Rio run using the same template.

  

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137. "Jinder has to accuse people of xenophobia "
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in order to get a reaction. It's just very forced and doesn't make much sense when he's feuding with Nak.

  

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140. "That's the point, right now he's the hypocritical heel"
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>in order to get a reaction. It's just very forced and doesn't
>make much sense when he's feuding with Nak.

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141. "I just don't think it's very effective."
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Like y2flound said, I think it's the wrong kind of heat.

  

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143. "RE: That's the point, right now he's the hypocritical heel"
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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144. "the point is that, as presented, it's not a good gimmick by any standard"
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Yes, he's the hypocritical heel.

That's a broad description though and all versions of that archetype are not equal. Jinder is not only a particularly boring iteration of that character, he's one of the worst iterations.

  

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142. "RE: Jinder has to accuse people of xenophobia "
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>in order to get a reaction. It's just very forced and doesn't
>make much sense when he's feuding with Nak.


Yeah,,,I think y'all are overthinking this....lol....

He is being a full blown hypocrite....And it's working in terms of the MAD reaction of the crowds....

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146. "Prediction Series: No Mercy"
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hell of a main event

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147. "I think we see Samoa Joe spoil Strowman's chance "
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They seem hellbent on keeping the title on Brock so he can drop it to Reigns.
But they'll also aim to protect Strowman in a loss.

The truth is Strowman will never be hotter than he is now. They need to strike now. Do it.

  

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148. "yeah there's no chance this is a clean finish"
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>They seem hellbent on keeping the title on Brock so he can
>drop it to Reigns.
>But they'll also aim to protect Strowman in a loss.
>
>The truth is Strowman will never be hotter than he is now.
>They need to strike now. Do it.

I agree. I think Brock wins in a schmoz and Reigns beats Cena, but I wish they'd put the title on Braun (at least to see how it goes for a few months) and have Reigns lose to Cena to add another obstacle to overcome.

I forgot Samoa Joe wasn't doing anything right now. You're probably right that he gets involved in one of these matches.

  

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156. "Damn... n/m"
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151. "RE: I think we see Samoa Joe spoil Strowman's chance "
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>They seem hellbent on keeping the title on Brock so he can
>drop it to Reigns.
>But they'll also aim to protect Strowman in a loss.
>
>The truth is Strowman will never be hotter than he is now.
>They need to strike now. Do it.

I want it to happen almost too bad.

Sometimes I think they fear putting a title on someone 'too early' after the way things went with Sheamus. To me, the money is on the table here.

Strowman is on the verge of being a made man if they don't try to milk it too much. People love watching him hoss it up. He's getting at least all of 'spectacle heat' that they wanted when they got Big Show forever ago. He's getting 'Jeff Hardy is about to do something silly' crowd reactions any time he goes near a ledge or table. It's everything that they claim they want from a hoss.He can show up and be a Brockish 'it's an event when I fight' type of guy with a little more frequency. And he can still just pop up and punk folks. And it would be great.

I mean really...folks lose their shit to see him fight BIG SHOW. IN 2017. Belt this kid and let's have a fun fall watching people try to beat him.

  

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150. "I totally forgot about this....."
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Just made some picks off the top of my head, not feeling very confident....



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149. "Take 2. Glacier was a surprise entrant to Honor Rumble"
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http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/884691-former-wcw-star-makes-surprise-debut-during-roh-honor-rumble#/slide/1

This was cool as fuck. I like Glacier and I'm glad he got a pop.

  

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152. "For Vince so loved his Reigns, he gave his only white hot character"
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153. "Welp. Cancelling. "
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154. "If the fans Daniel Bryan it in support for Braun, Reigns is cooked"
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I just don't see any harm in putting the title on that guy

  

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155. "I just don't get the forced Brock mystique in 2017"
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tbf, he's been on TV with the belt far more than usual so far but I think that's about to change again. Either way, what's the harm in having Braun win here? He can always drop it back to Brock at the Rumble and then you can have your Brock/Roman match. They've stumbled onto something great and I think it's time to find out what the mileage is on it. Maybe he fails, but it's the fall for christ's sake. You have all the time in the world to get creative before Mania. Try something new Vince!

  

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157. "I don't even care that Brock won"
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It was that Brock won a Cena match - take the opponent's finisher three times, fight it off just barely, then LOL F5.

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158. "the match made no sense whatsoever"
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the last time these two fought Braun threw him through a table and dropped another one on him.

Braun has blown the ring up, picked up an ambulance, thrown the Big Show through the cage...

So he goes out and just wrestles a normal main event? Not only did he lose when he shouldn't have, but he did nothing crazy.

  

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159. "If anything , the Kimura should have crazed Braun"
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He should have gone full wounded animal at that point. As it was, it's Kimura -> suplex city -> LOL F5 LOL

And this was after it was established that full-strength Brock couldn't German a distracted Braun. So, so stupid.

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160. "Anyone else think the Reigns/Cena match was a bit unusual?"
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Why did Cena leave the ring and head up the ramp? Then the way he basically just let Reigns beat him for the first half of the match made me wonder if he was doing some kind of protest to something backstage. A couple of good spots but not really the match I was expecting. Also thought that would go beyond one match but it doesn't seem like that's going to be the case.

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161. "I think everything with Cena is business-focused"
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He's saying he's winding down, beaten up, and loaded with obligations. And maybe I'm just cynical but I think he's deliberately doing this to set up the next match where he over comes the odds and wins then sets up a climactic rubber match.

At this point I couldn't be any less interested with him, Reigns, or Lesnar, and that's the only guys they appear to care about.

  

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165. "Cena on Raw Talk was very interesting..."
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It would appear he's fallen into the category now of being there to put people over.

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174. "listen to him on Edge and Christian's podcast"
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I definitely got the impression that he has one foot out the door.

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183. "Thanks, I just listened..."
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Really interesting take on things. Can't say that I really agree with several of their perceptions (which is crazy arrogant of me seeing as they're the ones actually in the business) but I really don't think Roman is going to get over with the crowd at this stage based on his ability to cut a promo.

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184. "RE: Thanks, I just listened..."
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I think Cena said it best when talking about how he doesnt know who a lot of the guys are. With Shinsuke he is a unique and interesting guy and at some point you will have to explain why he is interesting. But same goes for Roman who is he? He is a good looking Samoan dude who is jacked up. No personality and no gimmick. I mean I've never really even been impressed with his wrestling either. I would rather watch Aiden English or Elias Samson wrestle for 7 minutes over Reigns in a main event. At least they have something unique about them. I put him in the same category as someone like Apollo Crews. Apollo is athletic as hell and insane in the ring but no personality so I dont give a shit about him.

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Af-1
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189. "Yes, but I don't think that's something that rests solely with the wrest..."
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Cena was very big on the wrestler needing to dig deep and find that within himself, then going out there and snatching that torch and running with it - some guys have made that happen for themselves but if it isn;t who Vince has wanted in that spot then they have been glossed over (Zack Ryder, Daniel Bryan, Dolph Ziggler). Wrestlers can't go out there and book themselves so it's kinda a two-way thing so I get irritated at the notion that every wrestler could be a star if they did it themselves cos it's not true.

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191. "Or look at how they put the brakes on Cesaro"
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Sure, he's mostly meh on the mic. So then make him a Heyman guy. He's hot fucking fire in the ring. Everybody loves the swing. The Neutralizer is a baller-ass finish. Paul E. talking up the Swiss Superman! The PINNACLE of human evolution! and then letting the man cook would be money.

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162. "I was saying the same thing to my friends"
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He was selling like Michaels was to Hogan and it just felt like he didn't want the match at all. It was like a protest of some sorts for the match.

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166. "Yes! That's exactly how it came off to me watching it..."
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The HBK/Hogan match is a great comparison.

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163. "The ramp thing was just playing with the crowd I think"
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>Why did Cena leave the ring and head up the ramp? Then the
>way he basically just let Reigns beat him for the first half
>of the match made me wonder if he was doing some kind of
>protest to something backstage. A couple of good spots but
>not really the match I was expecting. Also thought that would
>go beyond one match but it doesn't seem like that's going to
>be the case.

They were chanting "You both suck" so he pretended to leave but it looked weird. I didn't notice the rest of that.

  

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167. "I misheard the crowd chant..."
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I thought they were saying "You still suck" to Roman after his shoulder block. Still, the fact he made it halfway up the ramp was so weird for me watching it.

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171. "RE: The ramp thing was just playing with the crowd I think"
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>>Why did Cena leave the ring and head up the ramp? Then the
>>way he basically just let Reigns beat him for the first half
>>of the match made me wonder if he was doing some kind of
>>protest to something backstage. A couple of good spots but
>>not really the match I was expecting. Also thought that
>would
>>go beyond one match but it doesn't seem like that's going to
>>be the case.
>
>They were chanting "You both suck" so he pretended to leave
>but it looked weird. I didn't notice the rest of that.

Nah...it was You Still Suck being chanted at Roman.....

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164. "RE: Anyone else think the Reigns/Cena match was a bit unusual?"
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>Why did Cena leave the ring and head up the ramp? Then the
>way he basically just let Reigns beat him for the first half
>of the match made me wonder if he was doing some kind of
>protest to something backstage. A couple of good spots but
>not really the match I was expecting. Also thought that would
>go beyond one match but it doesn't seem like that's going to
>be the case.

It's possible that he for real doesn't think much of Roman and he couldn't fully cover that up. Maybe it's a 'I don't want to pass the torch to this dude who isn't over yet' type of thing. Who knows really?

That last hour was pretty damn flat. I'm most unpleased by the way Braun went out to Brock. Joe got a better show out of Lesnar. Every time I think old Beef Con Carne is turning a corner and trying a little bit, I get one of these matches and remember that suplex city is not awesome. At least not anymore.

  

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168. "RE: Anyone else think the Reigns/Cena match was a bit unusual?"
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With Brock, they're also really protecting the F5. No one has kicked out of that for a long time. Goldberg fell to just one, as did Joseph, Roman and Braun. Vince is thinking the roof will blow off the building at Mania when Roman kicks out of it. But it won't.

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169. "I can't wait for the arena groan when romey Rome kicks out of a F5"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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170. "It took 3 to beat Taker so I bet Roman gets 4 and still wins"
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173. "... after ONE spear."
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175. "Cena's Raw Talk interview showed a lot of respect for Roman"
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I mean that could be a work too so you could still be right, just wanted to point that out.

  

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178. "he's all about kayfabe though, i don't think he would let that show."
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179. "isn't it because he's leaving to film the transformers movie?"
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182. "he also just signed on for a buddy cop movie with kumail nanjiani"
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he is doing big things.

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172. "I honestly found Enzo's 12-on-1 beatdown post RAW uncomfortable to watch..."
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Did they expect the crowd to be cheering that? I honestly don't know what's happening to Enzo backstage but maybe it's just me but I thought that whole segment with Neville/Strowman(!?)/205 roster just going way too far.

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176. "RE: I honestly found Enzo's 12-on-1 beatdown post RAW uncomfortable to w..."
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The thing is...I will be watching 205 Live for the first time just to see how all this is going to go. If nothing else they made it a bit intriguing to watch. For me at least.

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180. "That's a difficult point to argue..."
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I don't watch 205 but I will watch it tomorrow as a result.

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192. "RE: I honestly found Enzo's 12-on-1 beatdown post RAW uncomfortable to w..."
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>The thing is...I will be watching 205 Live for the first time
>just to see how all this is going to go. If nothing else they
>made it a bit intriguing to watch. For me at least.


This^^^^^

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177. "Why did they give him the belt?"
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I thought maybe that would be the end of the burying, like ok we had fun with you, now here is your reward.

But nope instead the title is a worthless prop as they show that everyone on the roster hates him and is better than him. Really add value to that belt.

  

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181. "If Enzo's turned heel, I'm not sure what he's done to make him a heel..."
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He's right in that the Cruiserweights secured the main event segment of RAW solely down to him, he defeated Neville with a tactic Eddie Guerrero or Austin would've been cheered for, and he still talks the same shit that made people love him. So did he turn heel for patting himself on the back or did the whole 205 roster turn heel?

Everything about it was weird and I really want to know the rationale behind it all.

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185. "too over to fire, so every segment we'll remind you we hate him"
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were they trying to paint neville as a sympathetic figure last night too? uhhhh, dude was putting his feet on the ropes to retain all the time. probably threw in some nut shots too, i don't remember.

  

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186. "how big of an asshole can the guy be?"
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Man everything you hear about the Attitude Era is about how competitive it was backstage and how egotistical all of the players were - Hunter and Rock and Austin brag about how abrasive everyone was behind the scenes.

Just so many questions...

What did this guy do to warrant this treatment?

Is Enzo the babyface? Or is he just a chickenshit heel with catchphrases?

Is Neville the babyface? If not, well then why is he so unlikable? Is Neville the heel? If not, then why does he mope around and bully Enzo?

Is Enzo wrong about the rest of those 205 guys being irrelevant? If not, then why beat his ass?

hmmm...

the more I think about it, is this a good angle? I've got a lot of questions which means I'm interested I guess. Far more intrigued by this than anything Reigns is going to do.

  

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190. "HAHA"
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"the more I think about it, is this a good angle?" --- I've been saying the same thing. And I have the same questions. I don't get who the face and heel is. At a guess, I'd say Neville's turned face but I have no idea how or why.

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197. "supposedly the 205 ratings went back down this week"
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>
>hmmm...
>
>the more I think about it, is this a good angle? I've got a
>lot of questions which means I'm interested I guess. Far more
>intrigued by this than anything Reigns is going to do.
>

but this is a very good point.

  

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187. "Natalya has had so much Botox she looks like she's wearing a mask"
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188. "Ziggler as Taker now...Go and stay away dude."
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193. "I hope they do right by Rusev"
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man he is fantastic. Last week he had me dying when he was backstage yelling I GOT HIM and Renee comes over and says you must be elated and without skipping a beat WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? Still smiling.

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195. "Dude was OVER AS FUCK in a RUSSIAN TANK"
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And they torpedoed it . . . for what?

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194. "Ultima Lucha Tres "
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Killshot vs Dante Fox Hell of War match. Holy shit.

"the older i get man, the dumber that i was" the grouch

  

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196. "I gotta rewatch"
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>Killshot vs Dante Fox Hell of War match. Holy shit.

my roommate's dog was losing his mind during that and I couldn't pay attention. When a match ends in stunned silence like that though... sweet jesus.

  

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200. "UPDATE: goddamn that was brutal"
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Dario gotta put down the coke though. His unique opportunities don't make any sense anymore, even if they're still fun.

  

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198. "HELL IN A CELL PREDICTION SERIES"
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http://bit.ly/2yIEp4K

you know the drill

  

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199. "GET. YOUR. PICKS. IN. (clap. clap. clapclapclap.)"
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201. "RE: Shane silly spot watch"
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>http://bit.ly/2yIEp4K
>
>you know the drill

They put Shane at the end because something silly is gonna happen, right? Right?

I assume they won't do a pretaped shenanigan? Maybe that's what we get here.

  

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204. "Shane’s dumb as hell to still be doing that"
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47 years old and his family owns the business, and he’s jumping 20 feet onto hard tables.

  

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202. "The Good news: Seems Nak vs AJ at Mania is happening"
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The Bad news: We have to suffer another 2 months of Jinder as champ probably.

AJ losing the belt makes me think he is coming for the world title and I'm assuming a Rumble win setting up a match vs Nak at Mania.

I didn't want Nak to get a B card first title win where he loses it quickly back to Jinder anwyay and assumed Jinder would win but god is this experiment failing badly.

He's going to hold it through the India tour before we finally get AJ vs Nak

  

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203. "Great event overall "
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Tag cell was lit.
Ziggler's silent entrance is the best thing that's happened to him in years.
Was legit uncomfortable watching Shane and KO fighting on the top.
Sami saving KO is very intriguing. Is he gonna turn heel or just didn't want to see his friend die?
Nak losing basically clean lolol.

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205. "man i was nervous as hell watching them fight on the cage"
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my son was watching it with his eyes watering. He would cover his face with a blanket then peak out every once in a while. He was so relieved when they finally came down the side. Then when showed Sami he was PISSED! He went through every emotion possible during that match.

Usos and New Day though. That match was fucking BRUTAL! I dont know how they keep topping their previous matches but they are just amazing. Stupid putting that first. I was drained after the match. It seemed like the crowd was too.

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206. "When the crowd booed as they came back down I was like "No, good!""
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I was so nervous for them the whole time

>Tag cell was lit.

Those dudes were punishing each other. I hope the New Day members do their own thing while staying together. Definitely want a singles run for Big E

>Sami saving KO is very intriguing. Is he gonna turn heel or
>just didn't want to see his friend die?

Perfect ending for that.

>Nak losing basically clean lolol.
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Sucks, but I do agree with the above that his first title shouldn't have come here.

  

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207. "I got yelled at for asking my son if he can see the cage"
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Its a cell, asshole. Tells u all u need to know about that crowd.

We all wanted the spot and we got it, real cool to see.

Tags were sick but the next chapter needs to start.

Does Jinder really need two clean wins over Nak?

Dolph basically just stole RTruths entrance from a few years ago.

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208. "RE: When the crowd booed as they came back down I was like "No, good!""
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what do you think about New Day winning a single belt and passing it around Free Bird style? That would be awesome.

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210. "Yeah I was hoping for this a while back. I'd love it."
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My idea involved the briefcase, but you can easily insert Big E or even Kofi into the main event with no problems. A curveball like this would be way more exciting and fresh than similar curveballs like the Jinder title run. Even if it's a secondary title it's still fun, but I'd like to see these guys make the morning talk show circuit and all that.

  

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209. "Honestly? They should just go all out goofy with Bray Wyatt at this poin..."
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He should be a reborn Doink The Clown or something cause he will never be taken seriously again. It's fucking sad at this point. This gimmick had SO much potential.

  

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211. "if we're getting Owens/Zayn vs the New Day or Usos... woa"
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212. "That Shield reuinion was practically perfect..."
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I LOVE that they came for Strowman as well!

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213. "I didnt like it because well everyone knew it was coming"
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but once Miz went into go get Dean and Seth you knew it was happening. I would have rather Roman went in there trying to take on all 4 of them. It would have made you at least forget about the reunion for a second before Dean and Seth coming in to save him. Or better yet during the promo have Dean and Seth enter from the crowd. But just try and make it a surprised.

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214. "Yes can't argue with that part..."
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the head nod exchange from last week shouldn't have happened and Miz shouldn't have referenced it too. Other than that I thought it was awesome and I'm really looking forward to TLC.

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215. "this reunion is obviously to get Reigns in the good graces of fans"
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my son started cheering for him for the first time last night. I wonder what happens when he goes solo again.

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216. "I dunno, maybe I'm being a Mark but..."
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it isn't hitting me as something as forced just to get Reigns over. The timing kinda feels right to me for them to do this - Lesnar and Cena are both gone for a bit and there's kind of a void in that there isn't really a dominant program going on.

It is fascinating though how people who hate Reigns still crave this reunion. If people hated him then surely the union of Dean and Seth would have been enough but the reaction on RAW was crazy.

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217. "the best Reigns is Shield Reigns"
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because he's distilled down to what he's really good at - standing still looking cool, saying hardly anything, and kicking ass

He's spent the last three years trying to do so much more

  

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220. "They tried to make him Rocky Cena. And he's not that"
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He can be a Man With No Name type of character and everyone would lose their minds.

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219. "Just don't give him written promos. Dude's not an actor."
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Having him say shit like "suffering' succotash, son" turns him into a corny-ass cartoon.

Like everyone else said, we liked Shield Roman because he showed up, dove over the barricade, looked handsome and speared motherfuckers. Let him be like a Clint Eastwood character out there and you can print money.

That's all they need to do with all these guys. Play to their strengths, stop the 50-50 bullshit where we see the match 50 times before the "special event," and let the outstanding talkers like Miz and Zo (when he's not just catchphrasing) go on their own.

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221. "Yep. I've said it before: Reigns is best as The Big Homie"
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Type of dude who makes people think thrice about fucking with anyone remotely near his circle, and makes those who don't know better a shining example of why everyone who knows steers clear.

That's it. The end. That's all he needs to be.

The only real wrinkle wrinkle to him that I want them to push is the brotherhood element. My favorite post-Shield Reigns match was the fatal fourway with Orton and either Seth or Kane. All I remember is Roman and Dean were the two left standing after the other were laid out and Roman and Dean looked at each other and Roman says "loser buys beers?" Before they started wailing on each other.

That's magic with these guys. I'd pay for a Mania main event with all three members fighting each other while still a team and everyone being cool as fuck going forward because, again... Brothers.

  

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222. "Yep. They moved him completely away from Ambrose."
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When the two of them SHOULD have been popping up to help each other (or at least been in each other's stories) since the breakup. Like, everything they've been doing with Owens and Zayn since really KO joined NXT (i.e. telling a long-game story that they periodically check in on but don't have to focus on) was what they could have been doing with the Shield. And it would have gone a long way.

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223. "he'll be hated solo again. it's too forced. they just need to move on fr..."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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218. "word is Neville walked out of Raw last night"
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rumor is he was supposed to face Enzo in the lumberjack match and lose. But he bounced. So Kalisto got the spot and the belt..title.

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224. "when that audience realized Shield was coming through the crowd...WOO"
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226. "can you imagine if they used the crowd entrance as the initial reunion?"
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*****

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225. "*WHO* *THE* *FUCK* *CARES* *ABOUT* *KANE*"
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227. "hopefully enough voters in Knox County!"
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*****

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228. "TLC Predictions:"
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why yes, there IS already another PPV

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229. "Picking Asuka. But I have the feeling there will be some dumb shenanigan..."
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It's either going to be a 3 minute squash for the Empress or like a full Bayley -> Pentagon Dark heel turn.

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230. "the whole card looks a little too straight forward"
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>It's either going to be a 3 minute squash for the Empress or
>like a full Bayley -> Pentagon Dark heel turn.

so i wouldn't be too surprised by something like this to swerve everyone.

  

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231. "If they bait and switch us into a Sara Del Rey/Pumpkin Spice Balor match..."
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I'd be 5000% down with that.

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232. "Is it genuinely Balor vs Abigail???"
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Is he not billed to fight Bray?

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233. "At worst, he's facing Bray in Oogie Boogie cosplay"
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I *hope* it's SDR (Sara Amato - SA - Sister Abigail?). But it's probably going to be Bray with some stupid "power" like the dumbass Wrestlemania match with Orton.

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235. "There'sspeculation it's Paige."
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240. "shit. Paige/Balor could be phenomenal too. "
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242. "At this point make it Daffney from tna "
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Would at least be a little more believable

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244. "Rosemary would be the move. That said, Serena Deeb WAS back in the MYC"
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245. "You know what that would be even better"
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I don't think its possible since she's still active on Impact, or whatever the hell is called now but yes I'd really like to see that.

It's a program involving Wyatt though so I'm totally looking forward to bullshit.

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234. "They're actually calling it "The Demon vs. Sister Abigail""
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on their website

  

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236. "Don't know if I'm intrigued or not...."
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Dammit I think I am.

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237. "I am absolutely not excited"
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This program has left much to be desired, and Bray's Abigail voice was fucking hilarious.

  

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241. "I agree the last few weeks on RAW have been terrible..."
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but the notion that Abigail will be an actual person intrigues me.

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238. "RE: They're actually calling it "The Demon vs. Sister Abigail""
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And I'm still watching....lol

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239. "Is this the worst PPV card of all time?"
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243. "not quite, but it's really bad"
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the one thing I'm excited about looks like it will be overbooked to hell and I'm still not sure why Kane is involved (I guess a shoutout to their first match, but who gives a shit?). They shoulda just had Miz manage a team of Braun and The Bar.

edit: and I'm still laughing that they thought Kalisto was gonna get a huge pop when he was revealed as Enzo's surprise opponent.

  

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246. "What is the worst card (on paper) ever?"
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Interesting topic. I'd have to dig in, but this one sure comes to mind. Not so much the worst PPV by what happened, but the one that you look at the card and can't believe that was an event.

Probably also whatever PPV had Cena vs R Truth as the main event.

  

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249. "they may be the same answer"
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>Interesting topic. I'd have to dig in, but this one sure
>comes to mind. Not so much the worst PPV by what happened, but
>the one that you look at the card and can't believe that was
>an event.
>

for my money (and I haven't seen everything but I've seen a lot), this is the worst PPV and it's also horrendous on paper:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_to_Dismember_(2006)#Results



>Probably also whatever PPV had Cena vs R Truth as the main
>event.

good pick, but the midcard on that was actually pretty strong:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWE_Capitol_Punishment#Results

  

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247. "Its been reported that..."
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Angle is replacing Reigns in the TLC match and AJ is replacing Bray in his match due to injuries...

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248. "Roman and Bray out for TLC according to WWE.com"
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http://www.wwe.com/shows/wwetlc/article/kurt-angle-returns-replace-roman-reigns-at-wwe-tlc-aj-styles-the-demon?sf123717574=1

WTF is this?

I've heard rumors that Bray and Bo are trying to get released and that's why neither has actually been on Raw in a few weeks. This would really add to that.

  

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251. "Bray and Bo supposedly have Meningitis. "
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Along with Bray's gf, Jojo the ring announcer.

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250. "MAJOR MATCH CHANGES HAVE BEEN UPDATED"
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Roman Reigns and Bray Wyatt are out. Kurt Angle will be taking Roman's place and AJ Styles will be taking Bray's place.

  

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252. "Speaking of Samoans named Joe. . . why no SmoJoe return?"
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Because Jesus do we not need Kurt Angle trying to wrestle a TLC match with a BROKEN FREAKING NECK.

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253. "This changes things"
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Do they have AJ a Smackdown guy go over Finn a Raw guy on a Raw themed show? Like what is the purpose for them? With AJ wanting a piece of Jinder they really can't have him losing to someone like Finn. Unless they let Jinder interfere on a Raw PPV since he wants to face Brock at Survivor Series.

I can see Angle with Ambrose and Rollins since Miz has been a pain in his ass. Loved Kurt in the ring but now I scared he'll get hurt lol. Almost would have been better if he made the decision to throw Jason Jordon in there to make it seem like he's playing favorites with his "son".

This flu or whatever is going on is the most over heel this year.

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257. "AJ vs Balor is basically just a replacement match to excite fans"
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They were already going to struggle to get viewers.

Now you have an Angle match (as poorly promoted as it is) and the AJ vs Balor dream match and people will tune in, even if it has no storyline purpose.

If they just put some random Raw heel in there even less people would watch.

  

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