1. "I'd say Melo was the better scorer throughout his career but PP was the" In response to Reply # 0
better all around player.
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
3. "what??? lol cmon man." In response to Reply # 2
>On what basis has Pierce had the better career even without >the ring?
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
6. "thank you I'm sick of people trying to romanticize his career lol..." In response to Reply # 4
>and what his teams accomplished once they superteamed up. > >Melo's individual accomplishments are better: more All NBA >teams, scoring title, better stats.
13. "Pierce > Melo isn't degradation." In response to Reply # 7
At best (for Melo fans) it's REALLY close.
Look, we've been arguing about Melo on this board his entire career. Over a decade. I've been on every side of it. He's always overrated to one side and blasphemously disrespected by another. Well, guess what? He's much closer to the end than the beginning now, and he's looking at a career that yielded a handful of decent individual accolades and absolutely nothing noteworthy as far as winning goes. That doesn't entitle him to automatic superiority over a guy like Pierce, who is a Finals MVP and played LeBron to, at worst, a standstill they were both in their primes (Bron entering, Pierce exiting, of course). Melo's got NOTHING like that to boast about, and that trumps the fuck out of one scoring title and some gold medals.
8. "Y'all dumb niggaz would argue Johnny was better than Daniel Larusso." In response to Reply # 0 Tue Jul-25-17 04:04 PM by TheRealBillyOcean
"Yeah Johnny lost, but Daniel is overrated. If Johnny had better instruction from John Kreese he would've won. Plus if Bobby would've done a better job sweeping the leg."
25. "LOL before KG Pierce won as many series as Melo in his CAREER" In response to Reply # 10
They beat Philly, Detroit and Indy in a two-year span. That's as many series wins in two seasons under Jim O'Brien with Don 'Toine and a bunch of ragtag fucks as Melo has won in his whole career. Pretty lazy effort there, man.
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29. "Melo has won three total series in his career" In response to Reply # 27 Wed Jul-26-17 04:50 PM by ConcreteCharlie
Melo, one trip to the conference finals. Pierce pre-KG, one trip to the confereince finals. Melo, one trip to the second round, Pierce pre-KG, one trip to the second round. What I said was that before Garnett/Allen, Pierce had won as many series as Melo has in his whole career. That's a fact. The in a two-year span is also a fact added for emphasis.
So yes, prior to KG's arrival, Pierce had already had as much playoff success as Melo has in his whole career. Yeah, regular season the Nuggs won more games but we aren't talking about that. Are you going to cyse the Utah Jazz now or does this signal the end of this weak-ass "rebuttal?"
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38. "I am sure Melo's highlight reel of first-round sweeps impresses someone" In response to Reply # 33 Fri Jul-28-17 12:14 PM by ConcreteCharlie
I am not that someone.
Of course this is all just looking at an arbitrary period when the Celtics were extremely poorly run and basically got good by accident (smart coaching hire, though the Joe Johnson trade put a limit on how far they could go). Once they had competent management all they did was win a title, have a nice playoff run and then go to Game 7 of the finals again. Let's not poo-poo Pierce's contribution either, he was the Finals MVP. You can spin and spin here, nothing is putting Melo past Pierce. This has nothing to do with agendas because as you will recall I hated Pierce. Melo is just a nuisance, his name pops in conversations where it doesn't belong. Pierce was a legit rival, one of the craftiest (read: fucking annoying) players ever.
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44. "his teams sucked and missed the playoffs, so?" In response to Reply # 41
when they did get in they won series and when he got his chance at deep runs he was going toe to toe with lebron, winning the Finals MVP and generally doing shit Melo never came close to.
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Could get it done in more ways, more contexts, at both ends, etc. Even without a ring I would take Pierce. Obviously he had a ring and was one win away from another. I will also go out on a limb and predict that Melo will never have the sort of old-man glory that Pierce did in DC. It's not a HUGE gap between them but it's very clear that Pierce was better.
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