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Heinz
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"MLB Trade Deadline"


  

          

Quintana to the Cubbies for 4 prospects (2 top top prospects in Eloy Jimenez and Dylan Cease)

  

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That's a nice haul for Quintana
Jul 15th 2017
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The Cubs trading all that for Quintana makes me happy
Jul 15th 2017
2
      Surprised they didn't go after Cueto but that's a potential rental
Jul 15th 2017
3
           I imagine they're looking at it as willing to run a fire sale in two yea...
Jul 16th 2017
4
Nationals get relievers Ryan Madson & Sean Doolittle
Jul 16th 2017
5
Your bullpen is sooooo fucking key in the playoffs
Jul 16th 2017
6
i wish the astros had made this trade
Jul 17th 2017
7
Do you guys have a connection with the Oakland or Chicago FO?
Jul 17th 2017
8
It's kind of weird
Jul 17th 2017
9
      Gio Gonzalez is patient zero for CHI/OAK/WAS trades
Jul 17th 2017
11
better than nothing. still not great.
Jul 17th 2017
15
JD, JV, Miggy, Justin Wilson
Jul 17th 2017
10
I think honor keeps JV and Miggy around.
Jul 17th 2017
12
I believe JD is our biggest asset
Jul 17th 2017
13
I think $192 million keeps Cabrera around
Jul 17th 2017
14
      Yea I don't think he gets moved
Jul 18th 2017
16
and...JD's gone...to the Diamonbacks for prospects...
Jul 18th 2017
17
      What a bag of dicks we got
Jul 19th 2017
18
Yanks get The Toddfather and 2 live power-arms...
Jul 19th 2017
19

ConcreteCharlie
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Sat Jul-15-17 09:42 AM

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1. "That's a nice haul for Quintana"
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I guess his contract status factored in, I think he has three years left on a reasonable deal. He had a pretty lousy start to the year but has pitched better lately for sure.

I get that the Cubs' pitching has been iffy and two of their better pitchers are pending FAs but it seems like a lot to give up. I wonder what other offers were out there.

Hopefully Quintana can return to form, I would love to see a Colombian with a prominent role in the playoffs. I guess they have an outside chance of catching Milwaukee or Colorado, who seems to be sputtering.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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cantball
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2. "The Cubs trading all that for Quintana makes me happy"
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He's going to have a real hard time pitching in NL Central bandbox parks, and the fact that they gave up that much for him is awesome.



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ConcreteCharlie
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3. "Surprised they didn't go after Cueto but that's a potential rental"
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I guess they didn't want to have a third potential big-ticket FA pitcher but wow to trade the #5 prospect in baseball and your organization's top pitching prospect for a guy who projects as maybe a No. 3 starter seems heavy. And this is from someone who really like Quintana from a sentimental perspective.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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Nodima
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4. "I imagine they're looking at it as willing to run a fire sale in two yea..."
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Sun Jul-16-17 12:34 PM by Nodima

  

          

if everything falls apart, or even next year if they repeat their weirdo ways from this summer. if you look at their contract situation they really only have Zobrist, Strop, Lester, Quintana, Heyward and Rizzo locked in through next year let alone the following three. Obviously the Cubs have given up a several highly regarded prospects but they could tank and restock the farm quickly if things remain surprisingly mediocre.


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Call It Anything
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5. "Nationals get relievers Ryan Madson & Sean Doolittle"
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Sun Jul-16-17 08:12 PM by Call It Anything

  

          

In exchange, Blake Treinen returns to his former franchise in Oakland and the A's get minor league prospects Jesus Luzardo and Sheldon Neuse. The prospects were the Nationals 3rd and 2nd round picks in 2016, respectively, so they have good pedigrees but little track record thus far.

The Nationals are on the hook for $7.66 to Madson next year and $4.38 to Doolittle with additional options after that. Treinen is set to hit arbitration eligibility next year.

Decent move. The prospects are too far out to really value at this point. I mean, Brad Peacock got traded for a pitcher in 2011 and looked like he'd never amount to anything until about 3 months ago. Got to plug some holes and this does that. A's are always about saving money and I think this is like the 10th or 11th trade between Rizzo and Beane.

Doolittle is a bit of a local guy. Grew up in New Jersey but played a little bit of showcase ball for a team based in Reston, VA and then was a stud 2 way player at UVA. He was drafted as a position player and made it to AAA. Hoping Dusty runs him out there in weird pinch hit situations but given his injury history, I doubt it.

Madson also marks the 3rd member of the 2008 World Fucking Champion Phillies team on the Nationals along with Werth and Blanton.

  

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ConcreteCharlie
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6. "Your bullpen is sooooo fucking key in the playoffs"
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We've seen plenty of series where the relievers decided who went to the WS and shit like that (speaking of the WFC Phils, their series against SF was like that).

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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7. "i wish the astros had made this trade"
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Mon Jul-17-17 11:51 AM by rob

  

          

seems like we coulda gotten something done, and i'm terrified at what the other relievers are going to cost.

  

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8. "Do you guys have a connection with the Oakland or Chicago FO?"
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Seems like the Nats are really comfortable trading with Oakland and pretty comfortable trading with the White Sox. And in my AL Central-heavy attention span, it seems like the White Sox and Oakland are also pretty active.

Am I wrong about the frequency?

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Call It Anything
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9. "It's kind of weird"
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I figure that Rizzo and Beane are similar in that they are just fidgety guys who always feel better when they are doing something so they deal with each other. That was the 10th trade between the two teams since 2010. Some are major like the Gio Gonzalez trade but then there are a bunch that are of little consequence like Max Schrock for Marc Rzepczynski + Cash or Fernando Abad for John Wooten.

Nats beat writer Mark Zuckerman joked that this last trade came with a set of steak knives.

  

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11. "Gio Gonzalez is patient zero for CHI/OAK/WAS trades"
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Drafted by White Sox in 2004. Traded to Philly (for JI JIM THOME) for 2006 season. Traded back to Chicago almost exactly a year later. Traded to Oakland in 2008. Traded to Nats in 2011, in part for AJ Cole, who seems to be to the Nats what Gio Gonzalez was to Chicago - a guy they just had to acquire twice.

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15. "better than nothing. still not great."
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10. "JD, JV, Miggy, Justin Wilson"
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This could be a big deadline for the Tigers future.

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12. "I think honor keeps JV and Miggy around."
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Mon Jul-17-17 05:39 PM by Nodima

  

          

or maybe more accurately in the case of Miggy he's obviously slipping and should just stay at this point.

I think Wilson is the most likely piece to move.


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13. "I believe JD is our biggest asset "
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14. "I think $192 million keeps Cabrera around"
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Mon Jul-17-17 07:33 PM by Call It Anything

  

          

Fuck A-Rod trying to be Tom Verducci. Dude is making $30 million+ for the next 6 years until he's 40. He's looking like 2012 Pujols right now. Tigers couldn't move that contract with a shovel.

I could see some movement for Verlander next year if he stays healthy and was packaged well with a good younger player.

  

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16. "Yea I don't think he gets moved "
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But I'm not against it

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17. "and...JD's gone...to the Diamonbacks for prospects..."
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https://twitter.com/tigers/status/887444262199189504

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18. "What a bag of dicks we got "
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19. "Yanks get The Toddfather and 2 live power-arms..."
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http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york/yankees/post/_/id/96772/self-proclaimed-winners-yankees-believe-theyre-better-for-the-white-sox-trade

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