Magic implies Russell isn't a leader and players don't want to play with him

https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2017/6/23/15866010/la-lakers-magic-johnson-dangelo-russell-isnt-a-leader-free-agency-trade-brooklyn-nets via @LakersSBN

You know what crazy? This wasn't even an agenda for me. I just wanted the guy away from my guy. It was never on some petty shit. But, given that the primary supporters of Russell are niggas who start a Soul Train line (Warren is the Asian hoe) whenever I take an L, I will count this among my long and illustrious agenda wins.

Not a leader. Not serious about being great. Nigga said he had ice in his veins after a summer league GW. Nigga put lines in his eyebrows. Said he'd be a sponge for Kobe wisdom, but Kobe couldn't stand him and publicly cyses guys he actually does mentor. Liking tweets that hate on Lonzo.

Y'all defended a fucking doofus for two years. I won.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

>(Warren is the Asian hoe)

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it is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - sherlock holmes

Maybe he'll grow out of it. Who knows?

Not sure Lonzo is more talented or is more serious about winning though.

He's probably has less talent and I've seen him quit.

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No.


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>He's probably has less talent and I've seen him quit.


Lol, like a bitch. And he faked an injury

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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

This is two different regimes and head coaches who have taken issue with his maturity, clearly DLo is the problem variable.

He needs a fresh start without the microscope of LA and with a great player dev coach in Atkinson, we dump a huge salary and get Brook in return - deal worked out for both sides.

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"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

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>This is two different regimes and head coaches who have taken
>issue with his maturity, clearly DLo is the problem variable.
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>He needs a fresh start without the microscope of LA and with a
>great player dev coach in Atkinson, we dump a huge salary and
>get Brook in return - deal worked out for both sides.


You downgraded like shit. Better hope Bron and PG come or it's all for naught.


Ingram is a poor man's Darius Miles.

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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

unfortunately they had to give up something to get rid of Mosgov, which they needed to do to give themselves the best chance in free agency next year. If we're looking at it like Ball/Lopez vs. Russell/Mosgov....I'll take the first one any day. It's too bad that Mosgov signing happened. Would've liked to see a Ball/Russell backcourt.

I think Ingram has shown more potential as a playmaker and 3 point shooter than Miles ever did. Not that Ingram shot well, but he could at least make them. With Miles, it wasn't even an option. Though the real problem with Miles wasn't his talent level, its that he never improved and got fat at an early age. I'd hope Ingram has much better work habits than that.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

Oh well

just trying to establish a baseline going forward

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

you could get players his caliber 15-20, not number 2 overall. I am surprised they got what they did for him. Upgraded a position in the short run, dumped a shit contract and got a last first. Only the Nyets would make a dumb deal like that.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

>you could get players his caliber 15-20, not number 2
>overall



Lol please list them in last year's draft or this one.


"only 10 players 20 or younger recorded 15.6 points, 3.5 rebounds and 4.8 assists per game. Tyreke Evans, Derrick Rose, John Wall, LeBron James (twice), Kyrie Irving (twice), Chris Paul, Magic Johnson and, yes, D’Angelo Russell

His 3-point percentage (35.1), point (18), rebound (4.4) and assist (5) per-36-minute numbers through two seasons, he has joined an even smaller elite group: Stephen Curry, Larry Bird, Manu Ginobili, Chris Paul and James Harden.


Lmao at anyone thinking Lonzo is better. You also probably thought brick tossing Mudiaye would be better too.


This upcoming season gonna be so fun.


*birdman hand rub*

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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

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He ain't making no all- star teams. He ain't shooting above 45%. He gon go to BK and lose like a clown and MAYBE average 20. Big fucking deal. From what I understand guards who put up historical numbers their first two years are supposed to get in the playoffs their third season.

So, it seems the pile on is just beginning.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

we know his first season was better than BI's. Will BI's second season be better than his? I'm saying it will. What you saying?

And your guy gettin the fuck up out next.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

D-Lo is a superior player to Ingram.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

Cluttering this board up with nonsensical rants that belong in The Devils Den.

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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

i said at the draft dude was good but not great, not an all-star. russell was never getting a second contract there, evident by the end of his rookie year. i am not real high on ball either but yes there is an excellent chance he'll be better. ingram has some question marks but in terms of potential he has more. we'll see how it plays out. not really checking for your opinion on OSU players, to hear you tell it duck sauce is a player.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

>checking for your opinion on OSU players, to hear you tell it
>duck sauce is a player.

I already admitted Evan is a bust. But he's still a productive player. Ppl who actually attended the school they stan for are objective.

I'm posting from a 5* resort with coconut and palm trees in my peripheral doggie. Hardly mad but thanks for the concern.

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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

oh well. maybe lawrence funderburke will have a son who beasts. sorry niggas seem to always have beastly kids.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

We need concrete statements. Not just from you, but everybody.

IS LONZO GONNA BE BETTER THAN D-LO?

Not he might... maybe... he could be.

I say he will not be better than D-Lo.

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the nigga dropped 15 on 40% in year two...WHHHHYYYYYYYYYYY do y'all give this muhfucka the benefit.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

That's all. If not, than this pile on is unnecessary. He can go to Brooklyn and turn into whatever he's gonna turn into.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

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we can shit on 19-21 year-olds. ESPECIALLY non-star niggas.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

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I expect to catch heat because Russell will put up plenty of empty numbers on a bad team and Ball will have some growing pains. Long term I think Ball is a very good distributor for a good team and Russell will not be a player you win with.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

but i think pelinka made a very good move to dump mozgov, if he can do something similar with deng they be in great shape.

that's the thing, i don't think you should ever put a GM "on the hot seat." back him or fire him. no interstices. the guys do desperate stuff to stay in power and then once you fire them it's your mess to clean up.

not sure ball is a downgrade. maybe in a one-on-one sense but in a team game i like ball's game a bit more.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

is russell going to be substantially better than jeff teague, sober ty lawson and a healthy jrue? jury is out.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

>is russell going to be substantially better than jeff teague,
>sober ty lawson and a healthy jrue? jury is out.

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the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

been pretty underwhelming. just like i said with all the randle cysing, it's not just about numbers, it's how you get them.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

he will struggle to shoot a decent percentage and MAY have a 20pt season or two...

who are you watching. He's a good player, her will never be great

clowns like you crack me up...

you talk shit about a dude for years... then let them say something that supports some idiot agenda of yours.... then you got run to quote the same person you talked shit about ...

smh...


Magic doing big things while zeke black balled himself...


Magic stay winning fool..

Instead of mentoring and teaching the young cat, he shipped him away. Magic had the benefit of stepping into a team with a heavy veteran presence. So, he ain't have a choice but to be more mature and about business when he got there. DLo had Nick Young and who else to mentor, guide, or teach him?!?!?

I get the salary cap maneuver but damn. Why not Randle and/or any of the other young ones along with Mozgov? Ball, DLo, and BI would have been fun to watch grow together.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

But like the article said, two coaching staffs tried to get through to him without success. He is only 21 and there have players, like Wall, who turned the corner after becoming a veteran. So, he could still sober up and take ownership of his career and potential.

With Ball on the team, while D'Lo could have played off the ball, there is a redundancy between the two. Also, Russell isn't a strong enough defender (think Klay and Curry. Both great shooters, but Klay is an elite defensive talent) to justify having the two on the court simultaneously unless they happened to have amazing offensive chemistry.

His stats were generally good for a player only two years out of college. But he seemed to play below his talent level, which obviously frustrated management.

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see, these mad bitches wanted to act like i was the problem and there was some big agenda against DLo. nope, he was simply not serious about the game. it was well-known.

they waited too long to trade him. that's the annoying part. could have gotten a lottery pick last offseason.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

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>see, these mad bitches wanted to act like i was the problem
>and there was some big agenda against DLo. nope, he was simply
>not serious about the game. it was well-known.
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>they waited too long to trade him. that's the annoying part.
>could have gotten a lottery pick last offseason.

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it is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - sherlock holmes

i've said it before: he seems like exactly the type of nigga whose career would be derailed by pussy, and the TMZ bullshit. trying to live "the lifestyle".

i'm still not sure that he becomes a player, but i do think that getting out of LA was the best thing that could have happened to him.

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it is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - sherlock holmes

But NY might offer the same temptations. It's a shame because he is talented.

Maybe the trade makes him think about his basketball mortality and his moment of clarity directs his career in a better direction.

no real reason to shit on the guy on his way out the door.

i hope he drops 40 on them when they come to BK.

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it is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - sherlock holmes

he can have a good night shooting but give up 25-35. And then there's the 21 & 3 games on 39% shooting. With no defense. Another thing ppl don't bring up is his knees. Said he had a bad knee all last season in his sophomore year? Yikes

We giving him the benefit of the doubt cuz he's Magic.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

***shrugs*** I ain't following.

Just consistent on Magic. http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2596407&mesg_id=2596407&listing_type=search#2596463

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Giving somebody the benefit of the doubt, because they were good at something other than talent evaluating doesn't make sense.

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It's not like he just brought this up to dump on DLo. Him and Pelinka have talked about the type of players they want on this team non-stop (some may even say ad nauseaum but I'm also a stickler for organizational culture) so this falls right in line with that. Also, it looks a lot worse in text than when listened to, it wasn't with malice imo

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

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not a huge deal, not the end of the world or anything, but yeah. just felt extra to me.

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it is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - sherlock holmes

My only gripe is that I wish there was a bit more regret expressed on the subject.

He's still a kid and while I'm perfectly fine with the move from a cost of doing business standpoint to clean up the mess Mitch & Jim made of our cap, I think "cost" is the operational term there because we absolutely lost a talented player with rather significant potential.

The real issue here was that his value was effectively zero and NJ did us a solid by taking him and Mozgov. Nobody on our roster has been coveted enough for anyone to offer much in return for them and the market for Moz was also zero.

Perhaps we sold low and could have/should have waited until the deadline after trying to rebuild his value, but I think we've got enough question marks on this team as it is and taking this deal now before NJ found another recipient of their willingness to absorb a trash contract if a young player came along while offering cap relief in return.

That said I wish they'd have given a more regretful spin on this. They've definitely explained that this was something they needed to do, but not enough from the standpoint of, hey, we wish we'd have been able to keep this kid and develop him further.

I'm still Team D Lo too. I had my concerns in the first half but he did quite a bit to alleviate those concerns in the second half, particularly when they made the positional change. I do think it's fair to question whether he'll be much more than a high usage player turning out inefficient numbers, but there's also a fair chance he takes this as a wake up call from a maturity standpoint and BK winds up with the steal of the summer.

Do you think that Magic's comments were so harsh because D'Lo's behavior was even worse behind the scenes than the press mentioned? That Magic and the whole staff was glad that the hand-ringing was over and just vented in an inappropriate way?

I mean it's not a big deal, but unless he was a full blown cancer I think it's best for everyone to send a 20 year old player away with a bit more positive reinforcement.

I'm certainly not demanding an amended statement or anything like that. I just would have preferred more of a well-wishing sentiment.

n/m

If it was the right thing to do Magic would've let it speak for itself.

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I think the current team has enough promise that it won't be much of a problem, but still.

Yal acting like Magic wrote a comic sans letter

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Dallas Cavericks LETS GO!!

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

But a bad look is a bad look. He could've said nothing.

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yup, i said it.

bring back the fun to OKS agendas. go IN!

i really don't care about neither of them to be honest, but Russell has proven zero and not showed much more than that so it's not like Lonzo has a big mountain to climb to match him.

which hopefully allows this team to take a step in the right direction.
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regardless of whatever stats Russell puts up because isn't that the fucking point of a point guard? to fit in, lead when necessary and make your teammates better...at least that's what i thought. D.Lo did none of that so it's a pretty low hurdle for Lonzo.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

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Not because of one of anything LaVar says.