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Dstl1
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"Cavaliers working on a multi-team deal to acquire dat Jimmy"
Mon Jun-19-17 04:23 PM by Dstl1

          

whether it happens or not, fellas...this may be the best NBA off-season in the history of history.

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I'd rather have PG.
Jun 19th 2017
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RE: I'd rather have PG.
Jun 19th 2017
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      Jimmy needs the ball. PG doesn't.
Jun 19th 2017
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           RE: Jimmy needs the ball. PG doesn't.
Jun 19th 2017
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           PG can play off the ball more because hes a better shooter
Jun 19th 2017
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           dunno if i agree with that assessment
Jun 19th 2017
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                It's not just playing with Lebron. It's playing with Lebron and Kyrie.
Jun 19th 2017
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                     i think all the more reason butler is a better fit
Jun 20th 2017
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                          RE: i think all the more reason butler is a better fit
Jun 20th 2017
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Depnds on who you give up...
Jun 19th 2017
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Thanks Obama.
Jun 19th 2017
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Is it that hard to build around Butler?
Jun 19th 2017
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Zack Lowe was saying way back on one of the podcasts...
Jun 19th 2017
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probably wants out and he's the one real asset they have
Jun 19th 2017
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They're doing what they should be doing
Jun 19th 2017
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if it happens, Jimmy better than Klay. If not, Klay better.
Jun 19th 2017
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LMAO @ if it happens, Jimmy better than Klay. If not, Klay better.
Jun 19th 2017
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lulz!!
Jun 19th 2017
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LOL
Jun 19th 2017
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Nom'c Son.
Jun 19th 2017
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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Jun 19th 2017
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LOL
Jun 19th 2017
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im working on a deal to acquire a unicorn
Jun 19th 2017
10
Wouldn't surprise if the Cavs are being used as leverage
Jun 19th 2017
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seems unnecessary
Jun 19th 2017
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      For Jimmy, yes. Not that much for PG
Jun 19th 2017
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           yeah but that has been known from the jump
Jun 20th 2017
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We don't know who the other teams involved are
Jun 19th 2017
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if it happens, the only reason I'm gonna party
Jun 19th 2017
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ha
Jun 19th 2017
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why are eastern conference teams willing to talk to
Jun 19th 2017
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Bulls and Pacers are both headed for a rebuild, what do they care?
Jun 20th 2017
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because they are in competition with these teams....
Jun 20th 2017
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      We don't know that yet
Jun 20th 2017
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      uh...we don't know that they're both in the eastern conference
Jun 20th 2017
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      nobody in the east is in competition w/ the cavs
Jun 20th 2017
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you peeped that too huh..... lol
Jun 20th 2017
33
That used to be a thing in the league, not as much anymore for some...
Jun 20th 2017
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yeah, and i'm working on a multi-hour rihanna / karrueche 3-screw.
Jun 20th 2017
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Lol right
Jun 20th 2017
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lolz
Jun 20th 2017
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good luck! you can do it if you believe.
Jun 20th 2017
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      been telling my homeboy for years that i could pull riri if we ever met....
Jun 20th 2017
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           I think you could. But I actually think a lot of ppl could so... lol
Jun 21st 2017
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                exactly.
Jun 21st 2017
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What made KD to GS work was the fact that Curry as a 2-time MVP with...
Jun 20th 2017
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and, ya know, that it was up to Durant
Jun 21st 2017
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jimmy: "nah i'm good, really"
Jun 21st 2017
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like i said, klay better than him and he wouldn't have helped anyway
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1. "I'd rather have PG."
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3. "RE: I'd rather have PG."
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Mon Jun-19-17 05:00 PM by murph71

          

Offensively? For sure....

But PG got roasted by Klay (when the PBS logo dropped 60 on him). I think they are looking at defense rather than offense.....And it kind of makes sense....There is no perimeter player on the Cavs who can even stop someone's grandmother....Jimmy is a beast on D....

But we all know this trade ain't happening...Boston is not going to jump in to help the Cavs (that's what the Cavs are rumored to be up to...) in a three team deal....And the Cavs don't have anyone they can realistically offer (Nope on K. Love....)....

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9. "Jimmy needs the ball. PG doesn't."
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PG has less of an ego too. And he's solid on D.

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12. "RE: Jimmy needs the ball. PG doesn't."
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Mon Jun-19-17 05:34 PM by murph71

          


Actually...Jimmy's rebounding, defense and passing kind of evens that all out...

He can have a impact on the game without getting buckets....

And again it has to be said...The Cavs didn't get beat because of a lack of scoring....Defensively they sucked....

But this bullshit trade ain't happening....As a fan I'm not interested in K. Love....

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18. "PG can play off the ball more because hes a better shooter"
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>PG has less of an ego too. And he's solid on D.


But Jimmy gets to the line more and its not like hes a ball stopper. He's a pretty good passer who doesnt force shots.

These days PG has shown a tendency to float and be disintertested. On Defense I feel like Jimmy's also passed him up

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20. "dunno if i agree with that assessment"
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butler is a better defender and i think either of them will know their role playing with lebron. i think in a reduced role their scoring will be pretty similar, though PG is a better shooter. we don;'t know exactly what they are giving up so hard to say what they will need here.

the biggest thing is that butler is under contract for two years and george is only under contract for one. obviously that makes butler much more attractive, unless the price is significantly lower for george.

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27. "It's not just playing with Lebron. It's playing with Lebron and Kyrie."
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And standing around in the corner waiting for the ball. And that pass more than likely isn't coming unless its from Bron and the game is close.

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37. "i think all the more reason butler is a better fit"
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he can impact the game without scoring more. but yeah i think we agree that irving is like pookie, not inclined to give up the rock

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38. "RE: i think all the more reason butler is a better fit"
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>he can impact the game without scoring more. but yeah i think
>we agree that irving is like pookie, not inclined to give up
>the rock


Yep....

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2. "Depnds on who you give up..."
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If Love and Tristan are still there....he fits better because he can play the two.

If Love or Tristan is included....George is a better fit.

PG is a better player. But I'd like to see who they have to give up.


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4. "Thanks Obama. "
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5. "Is it that hard to build around Butler?"
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I don't understand.
He's on a cake contract for another 2 years.

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6. "Zack Lowe was saying way back on one of the podcasts..."
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that there was an internal F.O. struggle on whether or not he could be "the guy" or not.

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21. "probably wants out and he's the one real asset they have"
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they are headed for a rebuild, they see it.

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7. "They're doing what they should be doing "
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Inquiring about any players who will make them better. That's what most teams do but the pressure is even higher for Cleveland bc Bron has them over the barrel (which was his intention in the first place based on how he structured his contracts)

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

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8. "if it happens, Jimmy better than Klay. If not, Klay better. "
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Makes me no difference, as long as Cavs get a star wing.

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11. "LMAO @ if it happens, Jimmy better than Klay. If not, Klay better. "
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>Makes me no difference, as long as Cavs get a star wing.

^^^This is coming. In order of likelihood:

1) George
2) Melo
3) Surprise option we didn't know was on the table until it happens
4) Jimmy (I think he's headed to Boston)

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13. "lulz!!"
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14. "LOL "
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22. "LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
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game-winning post, dude.

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24. "LOL"
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10. "im working on a deal to acquire a unicorn"
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Foh. They probably don't have the assets for a George rental, let alone Butler.

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19. "Wouldn't surprise if the Cavs are being used as leverage"
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Cavs want him so you better up your offer!

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"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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25. "seems unnecessary"
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lots of interest in both PG and Jimmy Buckets and what the Cavs have to offer themselves probably won't top suitors with serious interests. You know the Cavs FO is feeling the heat from LeBron, I am sure they are very creatively pushing to get something done.

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26. "For Jimmy, yes. Not that much for PG "
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According to Woj, his camp is blatantly telling every team that he's a guaranteed 1 year rental and will be in LA come 2018.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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29. "yeah but that has been known from the jump"
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butler will get better return than george but it's not like the cavs are the only team interested in george. cleveland, san antonio and boston at a minimum could be interested in him as a rental. i think cleveland's interest is legitimate. i don't see them being used as leverage or driving up the price for other teams. these are real negotiations.

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23. "We don't know who the other teams involved are"
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You know "the force" was a metaphor for education and savvy, for the ability of the intelligent and strong-willed to push around the mush-headed and weak. There are plenty of NBA GMs who don't have the force, my friend.

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16. "if it happens, the only reason I'm gonna party"
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is because the Bulls fans have been on tilt following the Cheat Codes' victory.

and I've watched y'all.

also, since I'm here: FUCK WELVEN DONKEYLIPS GREEN IN THE GOAT ASS.

  

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17. "ha"
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28. "why are eastern conference teams willing to talk to "
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the Cavs about helping them win the east again..

shit is mad weird to me.....

if you done with Jimmy Butler....send him somewhere he's not going to hurt you...

  

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30. "Bulls and Pacers are both headed for a rebuild, what do they care?"
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Trade him within the conference or division, what does it matter? They want the best deal for their future. LeBron is not going to play forever.

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31. "because they are in competition with these teams...."
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and they literally can't offer better deals than other teams...

  

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32. "We don't know that yet"
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And one of the teams who will surely be in on both guys is boston, also in the conference. are they "competing" with cleveland? not really, more like running underneath them. Only a very good team is going to give up anything for a one-rental of George. So what are the options? Golden State, I don't think so. They need to pare down a bit to keep KD, tough to see the deal working financially. The Spurs, possibly, but not their style to rent a player. The other potential suitors would be Cleveland, Boston, possibly Toronto since they have tried to be aggressive lately. Butler is a different story, wider net to be cast there.

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43. "uh...we don't know that they're both in the eastern conference"
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I'm pretty sure we know that already

  

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34. "nobody in the east is in competition w/ the cavs"
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they may play each other. but its not a competition.

make a move with them that benefits you and punt the timeline a few years down the road beyond the cavs/warriors.

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33. "you peeped that too huh..... lol"
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How about Butler to Boston, PG to Toronto, or another player for Washington....

Nah. none of that huh? - lololololol

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reason

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35. "yeah, and i'm working on a multi-hour rihanna / karrueche 3-screw."
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prolly almost as likely.

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36. "Lol right "
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Clicks, clicks, clicks

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"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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39. "lolz"
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40. "good luck! you can do it if you believe."
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44. "been telling my homeboy for years that i could pull riri if we ever met...."
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gimme 15 minutes. i'd bring my absolute a-game.

he thinks i'm full of shit. i'm utterly convinced tho.

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48. "I think you could. But I actually think a lot of ppl could so... lol"
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Doesn't seem like a super-exclusive club

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49. "exactly."
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ever since i heard charlamagne tell that story a few years back about her taking him and his crew to some regular hood-ass LA house party with no bodyguard, i just get that vibe that she's the type that's open to giving regular joe schmoes a shot.

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42. "What made KD to GS work was the fact that Curry as a 2-time MVP with..."
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a ring was willing to take step back and say "KD you can be Batman, I'll be Robin".

With the speculation about JB or PG going to Cleveland, are either of these guys willing to basically take a #3 role at this point in their careers to get a ring?

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47. "and, ya know, that it was up to Durant"
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45. "jimmy: "nah i'm good, really""
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Jimmy Butler reportedly has no interest in joining the Cleveland Cavaliers, according to TNT’s David Aldridge.

The Chicago Bulls’ swingman reportedly would rather stay in Chicago than be traded to Cleveland, per Aldridge. The Cavaliers have been rumored to be in pursuit of Butler and the Indiana Pacers’ Paul George since the offseason started.

ESPN’s Marc Stein reported the same on Tuesday evening:

Sources said on Tuesday that the Cavaliers have been notified that Butler hopes to stay with the Bulls and would be reluctant to commit his long-term future to Cleveland. Butler, sources said, remains intent on trying to lead the Bulls back to Eastern Conference prominence.

Stein added that now former Cavs GM David Griffin made a push for both Butler and George during his final days. A trade would have likely forced the Cavaliers to find (at least) a third team to get involved in a trade.

The Vertical’s Adrian Wojnarowski reported on Monday that Chicago had a steep price for Butler. He also named the Minnesota Timberwolves as a team that was interested. But the elevated price on Butler makes it seem like the Bulls might not be in much of a rush to deal their best player.

Butler, who has been an All-Star the past three seasons, is guaranteed to be with the Bulls through the 2018-19 season, with an option for 2019-20.

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46. "like i said, klay better than him and he wouldn't have helped anyway"
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Kyrie: I wasn't.


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