Mike has a shot to get back to the finals and get some revenge on Bron and the Cavs and racism.

Kerr out indefinitely. **waits for Warriors fans to come in mad and tell me its not that bad and he'll be back for finals**

Hopefully he feels better though. This shit sounds pretty terrible

https://twitter.com/anthonyVslater/status/856273449865457664?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Enews%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

https://twitter.com/annkillion/status/856293795574325248?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Enews%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

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So, my conclusion was the he was over it, but that's obviously not the case.

I don't know how effective pot is for managing pain, but Kerr mentioned that it didn't help him at all and he doesn't seem to be the type of person into recreational drug use (at least at this point in his life) so he must have exhausted a lot of traditional treatment methods.

The second link unnerved me since it suggested that he's been in deep pain for years. You wonder if his health might compromise his coaching career. It would really be a shame since he's always wanted to coach and he's so talented as well.

It would be great if Brown could earn back some respect after his experiences in LA.

Surgery should always be the final resort especially when it comes to low back pain as it has a robust and high level of evidence when it comes to effective conservative treatment (specifically physical therapy)

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"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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but from the all of the evidence I've seen with people I've coached and worked with, back surgery rarely, if ever, seems "successful". There are tons of viable alternatives that often work extremely well at getting to the source of the pain, which often seems to originate up or downstream from where it hurts.

>but from the all of the evidence I've seen with people I've
>coached and worked with, back surgery rarely, if ever, seems
>"successful". There are tons of viable alternatives that often
>work extremely well at getting to the source of the pain,
>which often seems to originate up or downstream from where it
>hurts.

Basically other than conditions in which the individual is having central cord symptoms (meaning there is a disc rupture so large that it's actually pushing onto the center of the spinal cord, resulting in things like change in sensation and motor weakness and bowel/bladder changes) or in cases of trauma, conservative therapy is indicated time and time again over surgery. The other aspect of surgery that isn't treated well is the psychosomatic aspect with a tendency for pt's to fixate and "become their diagnosis" or thinking there's a passive "fix" for the problem which tends to lead to more chronic problems.

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"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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for some patients that means pain stays, but now they can feel their toes again

sometimes it means that pain stays, but a stability issue is fixed.

lumbar spinal surgeries are almost always about decompressing nerve roots, or restoring disc height, or correcting a deformity. structural changes dont always bring about an eradication of symptoms, especially when the symptom is "lower back pain"

lumbar spinal surgeries are absolutely more variable in outcome than cervical spinal surgeries, but to say they dont work is oversimplifying.

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n/m

He sounds like so many chronic pain patients...had been in pain for awhile, went through the medical system and ended up with worse pain, and now is even more fixated on the pain (and naturally so) which increases sensitivity, pain extent, etc. In these cases, you have to address the psychosomatic and physical factors (the former more than the latter really...you can't move without pain if your brain feels that region of the body is threatened, it will send a pain response to stop movement and thus avoid danger)

You combine that with the physical and mental rigors of his job....it's a really tough environment for healing. I imagine we'll be seeing him retire much sooner rather than later.

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surgery for "lower back pain" is aggressive, but if he had neurogenic symptoms in his lower extremities, or dangerous spondylosis/spondylolisthesis, conservative therapies have a very limited expectation of success

his problem is that in his first surgery, the doctor nicked the dura and didnt realize it. everything since then has been secondary to that.

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In post 12, I'm speaking on how his prognosis is now heavily clouded by the chronicity of his pain particularly as he's displaying multiple characteristics of a chronic pain patient, which is very relevant regardless of his diagnosis (in the context of pain science, having a diagnosis can actually be detrimental to the pt's recovery bc they begin to identify with and be enslaved to said diagnosis, creating a state of hyper-vigilance yet learned helplessness. Such a shitty combo)

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>Surgery should always be the final resort especially when it
>comes to low back pain as it has a robust and high level of
>evidence when it comes to effective conservative treatment
>(specifically physical therapy)

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Dude be spewing shit with ZERO UNDERSTANDING or knowledge
of the context

The FIRST THING he learned in school is to get a full and
proper history before making ANY decisions.

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without examining them and looking at MRI's/x-rays etc. but he's a physical therapist giving a detailed prognosis about people he doesn't know anything about but because he uses a lot of words there are people here that think he actually knows what he's talking about. I'm glad people are starting to call him out lol.

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>without examining them and looking at MRI's/x-rays etc. but
>he's a physical therapist giving a detailed prognosis about
>people he doesn't know anything about but because he uses a
>lot of words there are people here that think he actually
>knows what he's talking about. I'm glad people are starting to
>call him out lol.


As a lifelong athlete/active person, I've had a number and range of issues over the years. I live in NYC one of the supposed "best" places for doctors. There have been so many times Ive ask for recommendations, scoured through reviews to see a M.D. in various fields.

I've taken time off of work for appointments and had xrays and recently an MRI. Seriously, 90+% of the time an MD has told me to "take ibuprofen and take a couple weeks off."

A couple years ago, I got frustrated with that process and started exploring my options. I found that Chiropractors and DPTs were more in tune with modern research and generally looked to tackle root causes of the pain, like physiological or movement pattern issues that has helped 10 fold. In some cases this was provided with exercises. In other cases there was manual therapy, and in some cases correcting poor movement patterns. These things are generally not what Ortho MDs are trained to do.

If you look at the training staff of most professional teams these days there is a range of professionals and very often a DPT.They all work hand in hand as a compliment, but someones experience should not be discounted just because he is a "physical therapist" and not a MD

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an orthopedist is there to assess your structural integrity. no one should expect him to be a professor of biomechanics or kinesiology

and im obliged to say this, but chiropractic therapy is only as good as how you feel afterwards. it doesn't address any pathology like nerve root disease or cord stenosis, and it definitely wont benefit organ systems, like its more extreme proponents claim.

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>and im obliged to say this, but chiropractic therapy is only
>as good as how you feel afterwards. it doesn't address any
>pathology like nerve root disease or cord stenosis, and it
>definitely wont benefit organ systems, like its more extreme
>proponents claim.
>
>
I agree. Generally DPTs >>>> than chiropractors for me. But nowadays more chirps are dealing in different modalities and not just "back adjustments". Some of the work they do overlaps with what some dpts do depending on the doctor and practice.

To me I think your first point is important though. I mean at the end of the day people go to these practitioners because they want to feel better.

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>To me I think your first point is important though. I mean at
>the end of the day people go to these practitioners because
>they want to feel better.

doctors can do better by directing their consults to other specialists once its determined their conditions are outside the scope of orthopedics

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It's not about what his JOB is.

It's about him violating a BASIC TENET of HIS CRAFT:

You MUST know the history and natural course of disease,
in order to make broad claims.

Back injuries are NOTORIOUSLY contextual, require
careful handling and management

He just in here painting with a broad stroke

This is the SAME GUY who BLAMED THE MEDICAL STAFF for
Teddy Bridgewater's injury

He's a newbie at his job, is excited by it (and good for him)
and loves to fly in and demonstrate his newfound expertise

I like dude, and I'm happy he's found his calling, but it's
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Best believe if the Warriors win the title without Kerr Coach Brown deserves credit. It's not easy to step in as head coach in the midst of a playoff run and lead a team to a title.

Black on black coaching violence, and it would fit in terms of getting a better defensive minded coach since Alvin Gentry is primarily an offensive minded dude, at least in theory.

I think the current dude for the Nets has only been on that job for one season and the roster is understandably terrible with a rack on injuries to Jeremy Lin, so I think his job is relatively safe.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

before he gets fired and and is handed his next job

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bad backs don't get better. oh, you thought the team was going to go through all this again?

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And, should the Warriors get there, Kerr will be back for the Finals. Though even before this happened, speculation is he'll probably coach three more seasons at the most before he retires.

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17x NBA Champions

they fall short and i dont know if he gets another shot at his own team

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>they fall short and i dont know if he gets another shot at
>his own team

Kerr has only beaten a Cavs team with no Kyrie

So why should Brown need to win?

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Lue beating GS last year is a far, far, far superior
coaching job to Kerr beating Blatt two years ago.

Lue beat the best team ever.

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i said he did. rightly or wrongly, if hes the guy and they dont make the Finals, i doubt he gets another shot.

edit: i also said he needs to get there, not win them. he has to win the West.

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it'll be interesting to see what happens but he has the best players by a wide margin. it would be nice to see this as a springboard that gets him back into a head coaching gig, which was already a solid possibility. go, mr potato head!

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

>it'll be interesting to see what happens but he has the best
>players by a wide margin. it would be nice to see this as a
>springboard that gets him back into a head coaching gig, which
>was already a solid possibility. go, mr potato head!

Kerr only beat a short-handed Cavs team two years ago.

Not sure why the standards should be different for another
guy.

(well, of course *I* know why the standards are different,
but y'all play dumb)

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http://www.dominionofnewyork.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Morris-Day-Jerome-Benton-of-O7-Creative-Loafing-1321646370-pg543113.jpg

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And I'm almost certain he did play Verejao, and he played like shit, so he had to go back to Ezeli.

Look, I'm on record for saying that I was the most pissed at Ezeli after the Game 7 loss. Him fouling Bron while we were up 7 was absolutely the turning point of the game: I said as much in the game thread. But Bogut was hurt and Tristan Thompson was killing us we didn't have many options at center. So,ego es players just play poorly.

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Context matters or it doesn't.

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IMO if both teams were healthy the outcome of the two Finals would have been reversed, despite the Ws being the better regular season team both years.

So I'm not seeing why Mike Brown should
*have* to win when he has context too:

Durant been hurt for a while.

But different standards for different colors of folks,
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How?

I'm listening.


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Gotcha.

Real leakproof logic there, champ


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Context, or naw?

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kerr already had a title and two COY awards behind him. he was also under contract. he wasn't coaching for a job. david blatt was and he got canned for a losing a series that was impossible to win. so? shit happens, coaching is a tough business.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

Blatt is fine, but he was mostly in over his head in
the NBA, which is to be expected because he wasn't
really qualified for *that* job.

Ty Lue was a respected basketball guy for years. By
players and front office guys. He has every quality
you look for. He understands the game. He commands respect
from superstars. Has NBA champion pedigree. Played with
Shaq and Kobe. Earned his check as an NBA player. Likeable,
great story, great mind.

(interestingly, Ty Lue has many of the same things going
for him as Steve Kerr did; Kerr was vaulted DIRECTLY
into the front office after his career, while Lue was
languishing on NBA benches and ONLY GOT THE CHANCE to
coach because DOC RIVERS reached out)

That's the reason he was paid so much as an assistant.

But instead of HIRING the RESPECTED NBA basketball mind and
personality, you PAY HIM to babysit the unknown quantity.

That is textbook hiring discrimination. It's hollywood
sidekick/comic relief shit. Black people are always sidekicks.

LMAOOOO @ a black guy who coached in Europe and Israel and
shit with no cred in NBA getting hired, with an ELITE white
assistant coaching prospect being paid to coddle him.

Would never fucking happen.

And I have no problem with Blatt.

But Lue should have had that job first.


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>LMAOOOO @ a black guy who coached in Europe and Israel and
>shit with no cred in NBA getting hired, with an ELITE white
>assistant coaching prospect being paid to coddle him.
>
>Would never fucking happen.

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By *definition* Blatt got the "Fairer" shake and
was granted a benefit of the doubt that BLACK coaches,
even widely respected ones, like Lue don't get.

Hell, Lue PROBABLY isn't back as head coach if they don't
WIN last year.

He SHOULD have had that job BEFORE BLATT.

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Read windhorst's book. You'll be startled by how much we didn't know about his amateurism. I'm not mad that the Cavs hired him. They tried an out of the box solution, and there's always risk with that. But it's crystal clear that, if anything, they waited too long to fire him.

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was it that LeBron was going to join the team? I'm not saying Blatt wasn't a mistake, but I'm not sure if Blatt was hired with LeBron and immediate championships in mind.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

>Read windhorst's book. You'll be startled by how much we
>didn't know about his amateurism.

And again: I'm not mad at that, because he hadn't dealt
with that before. He was given a monstrous benefit of
the doubt.

I'm not mad that the Cavs
>hired him. They tried an out of the box solution, and there's
>always risk with that.

Yeah, I'm not mad at Blatt getting the job. It's the hiring
of Lue to babysit that offended me more.

But it's crystal clear that, if
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His career as an assistant wasn't super long either. He was on the list of guys to get a shot but let's not talk about him like he was established. Overall the whole thing was in flux because when they put the staff together, there was no LeBron (and no Love and others, though that doesn't really matter). That meant they could have been looking at another whole new staff before the season started but the contracts were signed and obviously Lue was an up-and-comer. I wouldn't say he was hired to "babysit," more like a Plan B that worked out.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

See what I just did there?

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Pathetic.

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Sorry


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So he did he had to do in order to have a competitive team.

That's not "undercutting"

That's having a coach who has no idea what he's doing

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according to Windhorst. Blatt was in over his head, it was a weird situation since he would've never been hired in the first place if they knew Lebron was coming back, but he was never really given a fair chance.

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All those stories about how Kerr is at practices, on the phone, etc.

So what are they going to do to a guy they hate?

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>All those stories about how Kerr is at practices, on the
>phone, etc.
>
>So what are they going to do to a guy they hate?

Not with Mike Brown.

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If he guides them to a title, he WILL get another HC opportunity. He has a solid chance of getting one now, but it will become concrete if he wins.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

Everyone around here knew it when he got hired.

If indeed Kerr is back is so bad that he has to step down after the season is over, I can't imagine a reason why the org. wouldn't hire Brown to replace him.

Or, if there is indeed other coaching openings, Brown will slide into one of those. Oddly enough, thus far none of the lottery teams have so far fired their HC's (usually a few have been canned by now). I imagine as the play-offs continue, one of two of the play-off teams may have openings.

Only reason I could see Brown not leaving the Warriors next season is if none of the potentially vacant jobs appeal to him.

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But will be watching with tea in hand.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*