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Case_One
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"Who would you classify as a True NBA Floor General in this era? "


          

Chris Paul and Tony Parker are really the only True Floor Generals that I can think of, maybe Isaiah Thomas.


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kyle lowry. mike conley too if i'm being honest.
Mar 21st 2017
1
Good picks, along with CP3
Mar 21st 2017
10
      John Wall doesn't have a scorer's mentality, he turns down OPEN shots
Mar 21st 2017
18
John Wall.
Mar 21st 2017
2
RUSSY!
Mar 21st 2017
3
General Custer, maybe.
Mar 21st 2017
24
well damn.
Mar 29th 2017
29
Nah, He's good but he's not a General.
Mar 22nd 2017
25
nah. russ one of them 'necklace made out of ears' type niggas.
Mar 22nd 2017
26
lol I was joking guys, cmon
Mar 29th 2017
30
Parker?
Mar 21st 2017
4
IKR, Manu used to run the offense in crunch time during Parker's PRIME
Mar 21st 2017
16
lebron and CP3
Mar 21st 2017
5
Rajon Rondo, John Wall, Tyler gonna be there too
Mar 21st 2017
6
RE: Rajon Rondo - floor general, not General Flynn
Mar 21st 2017
11
      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ2OuruLGiA
Mar 21st 2017
14
      RE: Rajon Rondo - floor general, not General Flynn <---- LOL
Mar 21st 2017
22
There's CP3, and then a second-tier with a lot of guys.
Mar 21st 2017
7
yep.
Mar 21st 2017
8
CP3...the Floor General that cant lead his troops past boot camp.
Mar 21st 2017
23
um....anyone who plays PG and you can't win a title wit 'em?
Mar 21st 2017
9
Isiah was the definition in my mind
Mar 21st 2017
12
      he said "this era"...i'm thinking last 10 years or so.
Mar 21st 2017
13
           ah. last true floor general with a ring imo is Chauncey
Mar 21st 2017
15
                Kidd in 2011
Mar 21st 2017
17
                youre right. i actually forgot he played on that team.
Mar 21st 2017
19
                Conley is the closest thing to Chauncey
Mar 21st 2017
20
Jason Williams would've been, if not for the motorcycle accident.
Mar 21st 2017
21
Clippers up 94-76 on the Kings w 5:00 left at home &lost in reg
Mar 27th 2017
27
...after shooting an air-ball & turning the ball over against the Mavs
Mar 28th 2017
28
Chris Paul is the prototype. John Wall for sure. Rondo when engaged.
Mar 29th 2017
31
Lol
Apr 26th 2017
32
extremely weird and pressed uppage.
Apr 26th 2017
33
Nah it's gonna be funny when the clippers lose in this round (or the nex...
Apr 26th 2017
34
      nah, i get it.
Apr 27th 2017
38
      when he goes fishing, there will be a sea of red and silver at the docks
Apr 27th 2017
40
I'm on board for the Steve Nash 2.0 hate
Apr 26th 2017
35
      that's awfully high praise
Apr 27th 2017
36
           For Nash? No, he deserves to be mentioned in the same class
Apr 27th 2017
37
                Cmon ... Nash at his best was better
Apr 27th 2017
41
                     He really wasn't
Apr 27th 2017
42
                          ^^^what he said.
Apr 28th 2017
43
The other day, Chuck put Draymond is this category
Apr 27th 2017
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1. "kyle lowry. mike conley too if i'm being honest."
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10. "Good picks, along with CP3"
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Don't think Wall, Thomas, Russy, or Parker fit, for various reasons. Nor does Bron, who I think is too in his own head to ever really fill this role, even if he still might be one of the greatest functional point guards who've ever lived.

Harden, Russ, and Wall are scorers who attract so much attention and have such feel for the game that they create, but all have trouble controlling the mood and tempo of the team as the on-court leader.

  

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18. "John Wall doesn't have a scorer's mentality, he turns down OPEN shots"
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>Harden, Russ, and Wall are scorers who attract so much
>attention and have such feel for the game that they create,
>but all have trouble controlling the mood and tempo of the
>team as the on-court leader.

WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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2. "John Wall."
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3. "RUSSY!"
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24. "General Custer, maybe."
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29. "well damn."
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25. "Nah, He's good but he's not a General. "
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26. "nah. russ one of them 'necklace made out of ears' type niggas."
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30. "lol I was joking guys, cmon"
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4. "Parker? "
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>Chris Paul and Tony Parker are really the only True Floor
>Generals that I can think of, maybe Isaiah Thomas.

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16. "IKR, Manu used to run the offense in crunch time during Parker's PRIME"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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5. "lebron and CP3"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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6. "Rajon Rondo, John Wall, Tyler gonna be there too"
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11. "RE: Rajon Rondo - floor general, not General Flynn"
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14. "https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ2OuruLGiA"
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ2OuruLGiA

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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22. "RE: Rajon Rondo - floor general, not General Flynn <---- LOL"
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7. "There's CP3, and then a second-tier with a lot of guys. "
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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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8. "yep."
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23. "CP3...the Floor General that cant lead his troops past boot camp."
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>O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"
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>"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."
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>(C)Keith Murray, "

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9. "um....anyone who plays PG and you can't win a title wit 'em?"
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12. "Isiah was the definition in my mind"
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13. "he said "this era"...i'm thinking last 10 years or so. "
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15. "ah. last true floor general with a ring imo is Chauncey"
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Parker im not sure of

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17. "Kidd in 2011"
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I'd say Lebron on every team he's won with, even if he's not announced as a point guard in starting lineups.

  

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19. "youre right. i actually forgot he played on that team."
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20. "Conley is the closest thing to Chauncey"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
http://40.media.tumblr.com/d8e2daf9f3f37244cd05436bcdf05973/tumblr_mt4qibKq4c1rgam01o1_1280.png

  

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21. "Jason Williams would've been, if not for the motorcycle accident."
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27. "Clippers up 94-76 on the Kings w 5:00 left at home &lost in reg"
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>Chris Paul and Tony Parker are really the only True Floor
>Generals that I can think of, maybe Isaiah Thomas.


#FLOORGENERAL

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28. "...after shooting an air-ball & turning the ball over against the Mavs"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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31. "Chris Paul is the prototype. John Wall for sure. Rondo when engaged."
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Mike Conley qualifies to me. Lowry and Rubio, too. Probably some other guys that are slipping my mind.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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32. "Lol"
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>Chris Paul

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33. "extremely weird and pressed uppage."
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he's been the best player in this series.

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34. "Nah it's gonna be funny when the clippers lose in this round (or the nex..."
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It's not that weird or pressed. I've been a vocal cliff Paul hater since his wake forest days


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38. "nah, i get it."
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i know it's a running gag at this point.

just stating, for the record, that chris has arguably been the best player in these playoffs:

http://i.imgur.com/dnshuou.jpg

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2017_leaders.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2017_advanced.html

and yet his team is still going to lose in the 1st rd.

gotta tell both sides of the story.

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40. "when he goes fishing, there will be a sea of red and silver at the docks"
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he is playing well, another year where they get an injury and also let's face it the jazz are a good ass team. the only reason lac should clearly have beat them was gobert's absence and now he is back ... and blake is out. don't get me wrong i dont want to make excuses for them as a group, i am done with any sort of interest in them. but paul is not the problem.

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35. "I'm on board for the Steve Nash 2.0 hate"
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36. "that's awfully high praise"
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37. "For Nash? No, he deserves to be mentioned in the same class"
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CP3 has been a top 10 player for almost ten years at a position at which doing so should be basically impossible and specifically impossible given his physical attributes. He's one of the better closers in this league and has remained relevant even as his position has turned into the premiere one league-wide. He's a genius and a gamer who's had some bad luck and may not be durable enough to ever make it work.

Can't wait to see what he does next year in San Antonio, though.

  

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41. "Cmon ... Nash at his best was better"
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And he also advanced deeper in them 'offs, won more series, etc.

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42. "He really wasn't"
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Man, if you think the luck of playing with a coach more suited to his abilities and a great supporting cast makes him better, I'll just disagree because Paul's offenses, with so much less talent (he has plenty, but Nash had Amare, Marion, Barbosa, and at various points, Joe Johnson, Q Rich, Dragic as backup, Diaw in his best years, Jason Richardson, even Shaq), have been ranked almost as high, while his individual defense has placed him among the ten or so best defenders most years of his career, including this last one. And let's be real; the team success isn't that different. Neither has made it out of the West, even if Nash went to the next round and won a total of 5 games in three visits.

Nash is amazing, likely a top 5, 6, or 7 PG all-time, but he's gotten a nice post-retirement sheen that Paul isn't afforded yet. CP has been better, and he has played at this level (top 10 player, occasional top 2-4 player) for much longer than Nash did.

As for the at his best argument, Nash never had a year that sniffs Paul's almost-MVP campaign that Kobe got in 08-09, and Paul's had several seasons that outstrip Nash's best statistically (and, uh, watch em. CP3 might be the smartest player this league's seen in decades).

  

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43. "^^^what he said. "
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>Man, if you think the luck of playing with a coach more
>suited to his abilities and a great supporting cast makes him
>better, I'll just disagree because Paul's offenses, with so
>much less talent (he has plenty, but Nash had Amare, Marion,
>Barbosa, and at various points, Joe Johnson, Q Rich, Dragic as
>backup, Diaw in his best years, Jason Richardson, even Shaq),
>have been ranked almost as high, while his individual defense
>has placed him among the ten or so best defenders most years
>of his career, including this last one. And let's be real; the
>team success isn't that different. Neither has made it out of
>the West, even if Nash went to the next round and won a total
>of 5 games in three visits.
>
>Nash is amazing, likely a top 5, 6, or 7 PG all-time, but he's
>gotten a nice post-retirement sheen that Paul isn't afforded
>yet. CP has been better, and he has played at this level (top
>10 player, occasional top 2-4 player) for much longer than
>Nash did.
>
>As for the at his best argument, Nash never had a year that
>sniffs Paul's almost-MVP campaign that Kobe got in 08-09, and
>Paul's had several seasons that outstrip Nash's best
>statistically (and, uh, watch em. CP3 might be the smartest
>player this league's seen in decades).

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snacks
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39. "The other day, Chuck put Draymond is this category"
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Not sure how I feel about that, but interesting take nonetheless

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