I'm...trying to find some positive in this.

https://twitter.com/Lakers/status/834103099560062976

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Personally, I thought Mitch was doing a very good job. Kinda bummed to see him gone.

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But he made one serious misstep and that was hiring D'Antoni.

I've said this before but the Nash trade was only bad in hindsight - everyone was all about it at the time. Same with Dwight. Mike Brown wasn't a bad hire - he didnt end up working out but that happens. D'Antoni was a bad idea from the get go. He and Mitch swung a Chris Paul trade. Mitch has been one of the best late-round drafters of recent memory and...Magic hasn't proven ANYTHING.

I hope I'm wrong, I really do. But fucking hell.

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because all that happened under his watch, even though much of that wasn't his fault. the paul no trad and the nash injury through things way off. not his fault.

d'antoni was a horrible fit though.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

Apparently Jerry wanted to ship out Bynum for the CP3 deal and Jim refused. Chances are that deal would have gone through if Socks went to NO in that deal.

Also, it's rumored that the reason we never kept Whiteside was because he had liked Sacre.

Information regarding his track record for talent hasn't exactly been glowing.

Just my two cents.

didn't seem to be helping

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better than Zeke...

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I mean magic was going around speaking as if he was in charge already.


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Same as it ever was!

Why now? Also, does this mean anything for Luke Walton?

I'm asking this out of complete ignorance, but Jeanie Buss the sole party that canned those two, right?

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

I'm mainly curious what specifically happened for both those dudes to get the axe. I'm almost of the opinion this had to do with getting Magic into the front office more than anything Mitch/Jim did or didn't do.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

The folks on the TrueHoop podcast speculated that the Boogie deal might have been their last stand.

When the team came up short, maybe Magic decided to move forward with his plans.

better as a recruiter on day 1, just cause who he is, along with his business acumen


Now you hope jeannie really has the brains and will replace some of the other stuff mitch did over the past decade and change.

Overall I think it was time to kick the tires on a new direction

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>I'm...trying to find some positive in this.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

I really needed that.

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this will be interesting.

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Abdul Jabbar, Muggsy Malone you
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I mean, if not as President of Operations, then what? He's not coming in to be a GM.

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based on how things are goink in New York for Phil, I could see him and/or his ego having a problem with Magic being in the front office.

Outside of those personal relationship, I have to think Jeanie seeing how other player don't like how Phil has been treating Carmelo Anthony and probably doesn't want that to go down with the Lakers, especially since they are trying to rebuild

This is a tangent I hope doesn't derail this thread, but I wonder how much this New York stink has damaged Phil's overall legacy. I have to think players/coaches that were in the trenches still have some modicum of respect for him.

Okay, all done with the Phil Jackson talk, Back to focusing on your Lakers.

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We rationalize dumb shit

There better be a quick fucking transition plan in place, I'd give Ryan West GM responsibilities immediately.

Mitch should have been in that pres of ops role with Ryan moving into the GM spot. He got done in as collateral damage to Jim.

It is what it is, we gotta move quickly though. Too many fucking assets in play to sit around right now.

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"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

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And take Assistant Gm Tyler Schlenk (who's tight with West) along with him.

That's the speculation up here in the Bay. It's not good news for us, since those guys know what they're doing. But it would be a positive first step towards changing the culture for your team.

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I would love Schlenk as GM with Ryan still waiting in the wings, plus Jerry coming in as an advisor. It just has to happen quickly bc the deadline is right there staring us in the face.

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...RIGHT before the trade deadline is sketchy at best. I'm not really sure a new team can turn things around THAT fast. Much less a major move that can change the Laker's fortunes this season.

Better to start with the proverbial blank slate in the off-season than try to build a "WIN NOW" team that would have a extremely outside shot at eighth seed.

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but I imagine theyre gearing up for offseason

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And there's speculation is that this move was made to help get him on the team before the deadline.

EDIT: But then again, it's now being reported that the Bulls are telling everyone that they're not trading Butler. So, I don't know. Could indeed be that they didn't trade for Cousins.

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Not saying Butler is going to be traded or is in play with us (I have no idea, I highly highly doubt) but anything said by organizations has to be taken with a grain of salt, particularly one that is at a crossroads like the Bulls.

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I'm talking about maximizing any deal for Lou and any expiring contracts (Nick, Calderon). I'm under no suspicion that the Bulls are going to move Butler without getting DLo or Ingram which is a non-starter.

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>I'm under no suspicion that the Bulls are going to move Butler without getting DLo or Ingram which is a non-starter.

this is a major concern now. New people in charge...want to make a splash...end up doing something really stupid.

"Dressed up like an evil villain dressed up like a soccer dad"

>>I'm under no suspicion that the Bulls are going to move
>Butler without getting DLo or Ingram which is a non-starter.
>
>this is a major concern now. New people in charge...want to
>make a splash...end up doing something really stupid.
>

I'm hoping Magic would care deeply about helping the Lakers brand and wouldn't act too irrationally with any moves since his legacy is so deeply tied to the Lakers.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

and act irrationally *after* the success

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

>I'm talking about maximizing any deal for Lou and any
>expiring contracts (Nick, Calderon). I'm under no suspicion
>that the Bulls are going to move Butler without getting DLo or
>Ingram which is a non-starter.


Or is it more because of his age?


Like if he were 25 would you feel differently or still a non-starter?

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I'd rather not include Dlo or BI in that.

My guess is there aren’t a whole lot of options for us this offseason in free agency as it is.

Adding Jimmy to the mix certainly makes us more attractive, but then we’ve lost some of our depth to help us remain competitive.

Had we not blown 30 mil on LuolzGov last offseason, we’d have some serious cash for two guys this season and a guy to help entice them and then trading Dlo or BI makes sense.

As it stands I’d be cool trading Dlo OR Randle + JC and Lou or expiring deals but I’d do everything possible to keep BI and one of the other three of our core youngsters. I don’t see the point of gutting all of our cost controlled depth when these guys are, at minimum, good role players.

So trade two of the trio of JC/Randle/Dlo and I’m cool with that but gutting everyone for Jimmy is a bit much IMO and I’d rather see how they gel next year.

all-star.

BI is not going to be KD sorry lol

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Under no circumstances should we look at the long term.

We should gut all of our cost controlled youth for an all star in the middle of a lost season.

We should absolutely do that in a season when we have perhaps our final shot at securing a top three pick in what is said to be a rich draft, 6 months after locking up two older guys for 30 mil who certainly aren’t there for their productivity.

Can’t wait for your roster of Butler, Deng, Moz, whoever we trick into signing this offseason, and a bag of much more expensive dildos who are already exactly who and what they will be.

I love how you keep doing this overly simplified shit about “no one is untouchable” as though I’m not actually FOR TRADING FOR BUTLER and saying how I’d *rather* go about getting him in a way that allows us to retain a little bit of our cost controlled youth at the same time.
This whole bit about “a bonafide all star” is nonsense.

We’re the Lakers. We should have some discipline and build toward building a machine that can compete for a title for years, not aiming for a “bonafide all star” that can elevate us into mediocrity at the expense of youth, depth, and future flexibility.

Ask Knicks fans about that whole “building to win now” tact has worked out for them. I’m sure they’re all enamored with that approach.

I'm not aborting the plan to get a star and be stuck in mediocrity while also missing out on this year's pick as well. That's a pointless end game.

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>I'm not aborting the plan to get a star and be stuck in
>mediocrity while also missing out on this year's pick as well.
>That's a pointless end game.


You dont always get a shot at a star. Depending on how much you value a guy. Hell, you could always trade for Butler and shelve him for the season if you start to seem like you may win too much.

Also what about a star's power to attract other Free Agents?


What is your vision right now? If i remember correctly you want to ride with this team and picks and try to sign PG right?

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Butler has a really friendly deal (for today's standards) so we'd likely be able to fit in another max. If you can't get a deal done, you get this lottery pick, move Lou for a 1st, and let this team grow together while keeping a max slot for 2018.

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"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

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Except for Dlo. I'd part with him for JB but definitely as a last resort and I’d have to keep one of JC or Randle in the process.

Frankly it doesn’t even matter to me which of the three we kept s long as we kept one. My preference is JC goes because his contract would make up the lion’s share of the financial end of this deal.

I really don’t understand the desire to pull a rush job that WILL end in a cycle of mediocrity.

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All you need is one more team to show interest and word is that's the Jazz who have their own 1st rounder and the Warriors first rounder (and two seconds.) The Lakers should be able to spin that into getting Ernie to overpay.

There's enough interest that they should get him for at worst a top 2nd rounder and maybe a late or future 2nd rounder. But I could see someone coughing up a late first.

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and the Wiz have explored offering a protected 1st for him.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

His best season in all measures and is cost controlled for ONLY 7 million per season, with another year left.

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https://twitter.com/sam_amick

i just posted his whole timeline


WTF
More
Nothing concrete, but I'm hearing strong indications Rob Pelinka, Kobe's longtime agent, will be the Lakers' next general manager.

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and Vivek overvalues him.


The lakers coulda had the same deal with Ingram instead but the way the Lakers value ingram is different. Hield was 4 picks away, but leading up to the draft i think he was projected right behind ingram anywhere from 3-6

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They're a game away from the #2 spot and having better odds of keeping their pick.

You can't give up Ingram to lose your pick this year. Stick with the tank plan this year. Look to make moves in the offseason.

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I don't know what DeMarcus Cousins or Jimmy Butler would do for the Lakers, especially if a good number of the young pieces would be gone once either player land on the team.

Given how tough the West is at the moment, the sole chance the Lakers have for improvement is to rebuild. I can't see a top tier free agent wanting to spend their prime years wanting to help the Lakers retool.

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I get the pick.. but the pick is only as good as the player you can draft with it..


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The Lakers would be heading into Boogie's walk year with no pick and little money to sign someone to help Boogie win. You'd be all in on D'Angelo and Randle being the core of a playoff team with Boogie. And you'd have to hope that just making the playoffs is enough for Cousins.

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You keep the core + a top 3 pick and look to add in the off-season. All this talk of trading for Boogie or Butler while dealing a core piece and essentially eliminating the chance to get this year's pick is completely short-sighted and impatient. We'd be stuck in the limbo for years.

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Cousins? I don't know..I don't see anything on the roster right now that gives me confidence we have a player of that caliber. I don't see anyone in the draft that good either..


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He's a bonafide immature headcase. I flew out to the Lakers-Sac game and saw him play in person, hoping to see it was all just media talk or unfair characterization...fam, it's even more embarrassing in person. He's like a child.

I'd much much much rather have Butler than Cousins.

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I can live with that.. I just didn't see anyone being close to him talent wise on our roster and in the draft..


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ain't nobody on that damn roster untouchable

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You've got a roster with zero untouchable pieces but are going to give up your best young player and risk losing your pick in a strong draft for a mercurial, temperamental big man with one year left on his contract and is sick of losing?

If you trade for Cousins, you better go all-in and trade your other young guys for veterans as well.

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general

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which you co-signed albeit with more specificity, "Except for Dlo. I'd part with him for JB but definitely as a last resort."

Doesn't seem like a huge leap for Truth to use "untouchable"

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“Untouchable” means we’re not trading these guys for anyone under any circumstances.

Meanwhile we’re discussing a known head case and a very good two way all star. Neither is proven to be transcendent and the latter is a guy whose level BI might be able to reach.

We’re also talking about a long term vision here and taking account other factors, not merley swapping players in a vacuum where other factors don’t come into play.

So yeah, there’s some nuance here.

But hey, if you guys need to pretend that we’re not looking at the big picture and looking at who we’d give up for the two players being mentioned, have at it. Not sure what it accomplishes and all but do you.

If OKC were offering Westbrook we’d be having a very different discussion.

Hell, if we’re talking BI for JB straight up, we’re having a different discussion.

Greek Freak? Yeah. You can have BI. I’ll take that deal.

Now, if I say I’m not giving up BI AND Dlo AND JC AND Randle for him, TT boy would still say we’re calling them “untouchable”.

There’s no nuance or context with a player who is “untouchable”.

Conversely, we’re looking at the overall landscape in light of what we have as well as who is supposedly on the table and deciding our best play is to keep BI as opposed to giving up a king’s ransom for someone who is good but not transcendent.

"What is your vision right now? If i remember correctly you want to ride with this team and picks and try to sign PG right?"

LA2Philly's response was not based on just two players; it was on his vision of the team going forward.

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And if you think he's not considering myriad factors up to and including what's even possibly available in his vision for the team going forward, I don't know what to tell you.

Do you think his vision of the team going forward exists in a vacuum void of external factors?

Also, I love how you completely ignored my stance here.

But like I said, if you need to pretend, have at it.

You think if a dude like Giannis or AD was offered, I'd balk at dealing BI or DLo or Zubac. Lol, cmon...I thought the context was obvious, guess not.

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>You think if a dude like Giannis or AD was offered, I'd balk
>at dealing BI or DLo or Zubac. Lol, cmon...I thought the
>context was obvious, guess not.

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Was just pointing out where Truth got his "untouchable" comment from. It's not like it came out of the clear blue.

And I have a looser definition of "untouchable" (It would take a majorly lopsided deal to move him) or else there are only like three to five "untouchable" players in the league. To me, especially given the Lakers' pick situation, BI is untouchable. Unless you are getting a Top 5 stud, makes no sense to move him right now.

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>Was just pointing out where Truth got his "untouchable"
>comment from. It's not like it came out of the clear blue.

No, he's just ignoring every last ounce of context involved and defaulting to a reductionist conclusion.

>And I have a looser definition of "untouchable" (It would take
>a majorly lopsided deal to move him) or else there are only
>like three to five "untouchable" players in the league.

Well... Yeah. And the point is we're not treating BI like he's one of those 3 to 5 guys. The fact that you have to loosen your definition of untouchable to something that definitively isn't says it all.

>me, especially given the Lakers' pick situation, BI is
>untouchable. Unless you are getting a Top 5 stud, makes no
>sense to move him right now.

Which means he isn't untouchable. It means there's a high price tag.

We're not saying he's untouchable, we're saying the guys on the table at this time plus our current circumstances aren't worth giving up BI....which is what you're saying.

Considering nobody else is using it.

Particularly interesting considering one of the two players being discussed is a known head case/possible cancer with one of the worst character reputations in the league by any measure and the other is a guy who, while good, isn't exactly Durant or Westbrook.

You say BI isn't going to be KD2, which, I mean, ok. That's reasonable. But then, we're not talking about trading him for KD, are we? Butler is not an unreasonable floor for BI, by the way.

I also love how you keep repeating this bit that “nobody is untouchable” as though players being “untouchable” is the argument as opposed to some of us actually looking at the big picture that includes myriad factors including current and future roster depth, current and future financial flexibility with cost controlled players, not to mention the caliber and age of the players we would get in return and the impact that said players could have on our ability to stay in the running to keep our pick this year.

This is not an either/or proposition. It’s not black and white. It’s not 1 + 1= 2.

It’s a much more nuanced equation that anyone with any sense at all wouldn’t reduce to low common denominators.

Basically you're saying you'd rather gut the entire team and have nothing but Butler and scraps, whereas myself and LA2P would rather have Butler, BI, DLO, and this years pick going into this offseason.

Under which scenario do you think sensible free agents would prefer? Here's a hint: It's not Butler and a bag of old, overpaid dildos on the wrong side of their prime.

>You say BI isn't going to be KD2, which, I mean, ok. That's
>reasonable. But then, we're not talking about trading him for
>KD, are we? Butler is not an unreasonable floor for BI, by the
>way.

All-Star starter, 3-time All-Defense Jimmy Butler? That's Brandon Ingram's FLOOR?

I'm just trying to clarify what your saying here.

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>>You say BI isn't going to be KD2, which, I mean, ok. That's
>>reasonable. But then, we're not talking about trading him
>for
>>KD, are we? Butler is not an unreasonable floor for BI, by
>the
>>way.
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>All-Star starter, 3-time All-Defense Jimmy Butler? That's
>Brandon Ingram's FLOOR?
>
>I'm just trying to clarify what your saying here.

Considering you quoted what I said and then asked me if I said something entirely different, I have no idea how to answer such a ridiculous question.

I'm game to discuss this with you but not until you address what I actually said without your need to reinterpret it in another way to give you leg to stand on.

will be at worst be AT LEAST as good as Jimmy Butler is today? That's my interpretation when someone says what a player's "floor" is. If that's incorrect please break it down for me.

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>will be at worst be AT LEAST as good as Jimmy Butler is
>today? That's my interpretation when someone says what a
>player's "floor" is. If that's incorrect please break it down
>for me.

Like, there's no need for interpretation.

You still refuse to read my words as written and are asking a question that is not at all what was said.

Of course you wouldn't have an argument at all if you read my words as written, because they were written exactly as intended.

So as I said... get back to me after a few classes on reading comprehension. If you're still going to be obtuse and act all mystified because the cognitive dissonance going on in your brain forces you to reinterpret my words as something else entirely, just call it a day.

Not sure why you're pissed at Truth; your comment seems like a major overstatement. I don't think many people would say Ingram's worst case scenario is Jimmy Butler, and that's what a player's "floor" refers to.

It's not unreasonable to think Ingram has a chance to be better than Jimmy Butler but that's different than saying that, at worst, Ingram will be as good as Butler.

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