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Orbit_Established
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"Poll question: The Young NBA Cornerstone Poll (under 25 as of 1/1/2017)"
Thu Jan-19-17 01:24 AM by Orbit_Established

  

          

Who you taking to build something around for the next 8-10 years?

Wiggins and Lavine are fine, but they aren't quite in this class.

Kawhi is already 25, btw.

Poll result (30 votes)
The Process (6 votes)Vote
Ky (still only 24, geez) (3 votes)Vote
Brow (11 votes)Vote
KAT (2 votes)Vote
Black Hektor AKA Ante Up Kounpo (7 votes)Vote
I'm white (1 votes)Vote

  

  

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This shit's gonna go double platinum, O_E.
Jan 19th 2017
1
No Dat Zingis too
Jan 19th 2017
2
That's what purple is for.
Jan 19th 2017
5
Jokic also took a shyt on the Lakers' future & been ballin' out
Jan 19th 2017
6
i don't participate in these anymore if it's ky-bait. i mean...RING!
Jan 19th 2017
4
Don't think Ky or Bari belong here...they're #2s right now
Jan 19th 2017
40
      ^^^^
Jan 22nd 2017
48
Frank walking around with a Precog
Jan 19th 2017
34
I mean right now it's Greek Freak, no contest
Jan 19th 2017
3
RIght now, i'd say giannis
Jan 19th 2017
7
in order:
Jan 19th 2017
8
Incredible.
Jan 19th 2017
19
and yeah, replace kyrie and i'm white with porzingis and jokic.
Jan 19th 2017
21
      Kyrie is 24 years old. He counts. And I'm white = Porzingis.
Jan 19th 2017
37
           25's arbitrary though, and every other guy is his team's best player
Jan 19th 2017
39
                There is nothing "arbitrary" about "under the age of 25"
Jan 19th 2017
42
This is easy...Going with defensive impact.
Jan 19th 2017
9
Heart says Embiid, head says Giannis
Jan 19th 2017
10
Yup...
Jan 19th 2017
12
Id say 2-3 seasons and you wont be as worried
Jan 19th 2017
14
lol yeah, kinda like watching rose this year.
Jan 19th 2017
15
yeah my only concern with embiid is dem footses.
Jan 19th 2017
29
Outside of Alphabet City and Anthony Davis
Jan 19th 2017
11
This is a tough choice.
Jan 19th 2017
13
DAAAAAAAMN, KY ain't even make the cut? lolol
Jan 19th 2017
17
apples and oranges
Jan 19th 2017
18
RE: This is a tough choice.
Jan 19th 2017
20
His flopping skills are savant like too...
Jan 19th 2017
22
RE: His flopping skills are savant like too...
Jan 19th 2017
24
      Him and Nurkic complain about fouls is all-world too...
Jan 19th 2017
30
RE: This is a tough choice.
Jan 19th 2017
36
damn y'all turned on AD already?
Jan 19th 2017
16
It's not a question of his talent
Jan 19th 2017
25
if he stayed healthy I'd have him number one
Jan 19th 2017
45
Giannis just needs any sort of help and he's a conference finalist
Jan 19th 2017
23
RE: Giannis just needs any sort of help and he's a conference finalist
Jan 19th 2017
27
      What you really typed was FUCK YOU LARRY SANDERS
Jan 19th 2017
      What you really typed was FUCK YOU LARRY SANDERS
Jan 19th 2017
31
           RE: What you really typed was FUCK YOU LARRY SANDERS
Jan 19th 2017
32
Zubac
Jan 19th 2017
26
RE: Zubac
Jan 19th 2017
28
^^^DROPS SCIENCE LIKE GIRLS BE DROPPING BABIES
Jan 19th 2017
38
*applauds this entire exchange*
Jan 19th 2017
41
Nice...very nice.
Jan 19th 2017
44
aka ZuPac
Jan 22nd 2017
52
Kawhi's already been the best player on a title team, different category
Jan 19th 2017
33
Ingram over anyone besides Giannis and Ky, too many concerns w the bigs
Jan 19th 2017
35
KAT has "attitude" problems? this is the first I'm hearing of this...
Jan 19th 2017
43
Ingram is Tayshaun Prince status nm
Jan 22nd 2017
50
      He's going to be a star IMO.
Jan 22nd 2017
53
I saw Kat the other night, and it was breathtaking.
Jan 21st 2017
46
He's so good. And perfect for this era.
Jan 21st 2017
47
KATman vs The JOKer tonight
Jan 22nd 2017
49
Jokic has Z-Bo's athleticism/body & FIBA Pau's game
Jan 22nd 2017
51
KAT's start of the season was dissapointing, but he been ballin in Jan
Jan 23rd 2017
54
I finally found a good flask that keeps my coffee hot.
Nov 14th 2017
55
I fucks with this...
Nov 14th 2017
58
Embiid's getting in shape. Uh oh.
Nov 14th 2017
56
heard him after the game? He admitted he's barely 50% meaning
Nov 14th 2017
57
Brow winning this cuz he has an intelligent coach.
Apr 18th 2018
59
we did a good job on this poll
Apr 18th 2018
60
      Yup. Nothing mad to see here.
Apr 18th 2018
61
           Next poll needs Ben, though
Apr 18th 2018
62
                im taking ben over everybody but AD
Apr 18th 2018
63
                     and giannis. gotta take giannis over ben RIGHT TODAY
Apr 18th 2018
64
                     Wait -- Giannis only two years older than BEN!?!? Bwahahah
Apr 18th 2018
65
                          Ben mean tho O_E, like legit don't like nobody
Apr 18th 2018
66
                               100 percent accurate
Apr 18th 2018
67
                               You know what?!?! I'm sticking to Giannis but LOVE this argument.
Apr 18th 2018
68
                               Ben great, but has some bothersome Nyquil genes
May 09th 2018
69
                                    Nah
May 09th 2018
70
                                    those guys usually have jumpers...ben hit 20 points, i'm legit stunned.
May 09th 2018
71

Frank Longo
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1. "This shit's gonna go double platinum, O_E."
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Brilliantly constructed.

My predictions:
- Ba will say Kyrie
- others will point out Kyrie's record before Bron
- Ba will counter and talk shit about Anthony Davis and KAT
- Ba shitting on UK players will magically summon RealBillyOcean, and they'll go back and forth for 60ish replies or more
- then, you've got Philly fans who will likely cyse Embiid over a few others
- everyone will get mad at them for this and point out the small sample size, but they've won a few games recently, so they're ready to unload double barrows (c)
- someone will bring up the Lakers somewhere in here, as they have a bunch of young players
- Ba will insult the Lakers' entire non-Ingram roster, calling Randle and Russell sorry
- this will trigger both RealBillyOcean AND Warren, which will lead to several more replies
- when the Lakers come up, you will likely bring up Luke Walton, and that'll spin into more replies
- if we're lucky, you'll go after people for sleeping on Giannis in their rankings
- Castro will probably say Shabazz Napier or something, and we'll all have a good laugh

I mean, can you somehow summon Bulls fans too? Maybe find a way to get someone to insult the Warriors? I'm trying to think who might be left on the outside of this post.

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okayplayery
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2. "No Dat Zingis too"
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Isn't he a Knicks fan, lol

  

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5. "That's what purple is for."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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6. "Jokic also took a shyt on the Lakers' future & been ballin' out"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
http://40.media.tumblr.com/d8e2daf9f3f37244cd05436bcdf05973/tumblr_mt4qibKq4c1rgam01o1_1280.png

  

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4. "i don't participate in these anymore if it's ky-bait. i mean...RING!"
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next year i'll be making plenty of bari-related posts like this tho. this is his first real season. next year he'll explode.

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Kyrie: I wasn't.


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40. "Don't think Ky or Bari belong here...they're #2s right now"
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48. "^^^^ "
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34. "Frank walking around with a Precog"
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I'm not gonna do a back 'n forth or even vote. Cuz I can't choose between Anthony & KAT.

You guys have fun though.

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3. "I mean right now it's Greek Freak, no contest"
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I still voted KAT tho, we'll see in the next two years. That Bucks roster is suspect and PAID for, so they really have no room for external improvement.

  

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7. "RIght now, i'd say giannis"
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I'd probably rank it like:

Giannis
Brow
Ky


Kat


Embiid

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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8. "in order:"
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19. "Incredible. "
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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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dula dibiasi
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21. "and yeah, replace kyrie and i'm white with porzingis and jokic."
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as said elsewhere in the thread, kyrie (due to position, team situation, and personal development stage) doesn't really belong in this convo. apples and oranges.

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it is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - sherlock holmes

  

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Orbit_Established
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37. "Kyrie is 24 years old. He counts. And I'm white = Porzingis. "
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>as said elsewhere in the thread, kyrie (due to position, team
>situation, and personal development stage) doesn't really
>belong in this convo. apples and oranges.


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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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39. "25's arbitrary though, and every other guy is his team's best player"
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42. "There is nothing "arbitrary" about "under the age of 25""
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"Best young player" is arbitrary"

"Best young player 2 years in" is actually silly
because some guys are OLDER than others.

AGE is as fair a proxy for how far along they
are than any other measure.

Even "best player above 6'9" would be silly,
because that doesn't have real basketball meaning

Neither does "best cornerstone big man"

I set an age. I said pick the cornerstone below
THAT age.

That is a perfectly smart way to do this.




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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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9. "This is easy...Going with defensive impact."
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Davis
Embiid
Giannis
KAT

Kyrie doesn't belong on this list. Nothing left to prove. Waiting to see what kind of team LeGM leaves him with when he walks away.

Zingis might, but however you feel about his talent that team is built around Melo and will be until the contract is up.


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10. "Heart says Embiid, head says Giannis"
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This has been an amazing 30 games. Most fun I've had in sports in eight years. But we're always going to be worried about dem feet.

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12. "Yup..."
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>This has been an amazing 30 games. Most fun I've had in
>sports in eight years. But we're always going to be worried
>about dem feet.

Every awkward fall i get worried. Still pick him over everybody but Davis, who also gets hurt alot. He's a two-way force.
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14. "Id say 2-3 seasons and you wont be as worried"
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Thats about how long it took for a guy like Brook to shake that foot stigma.

I mean in the back of your mind you always are like "oh man" when he falls like you said, but it becomes less of a worry.

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15. "lol yeah, kinda like watching rose this year."
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everytime that dude jumped, twisted, contorted, landed, fell or moved i grimaced.

Now, not so much.

If it gon happen, it gon happen tho. *shrug*

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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29. "yeah my only concern with embiid is dem footses."
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but they're a significant concern. them shits is dennis hopper bus bombs waiting to go off. plus bomb prolly already mushed him.

outside of that, he might end up being the best of them all.

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11. "Outside of Alphabet City and Anthony Davis"
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how many of these guys are two way players?

The sole reason Anthony Davis doesn't deserve to win this are the legit health concerns at this point. I do wonder if this dude will eventually bounce from the Pelicans. I don't see them improving that roster outside of lucking out on future drafts. Hopefully some young talent will land on that team to hook Anthony Davis up.

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13. "This is a tough choice."
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Id go

Davis
Embiid
Giannis

KAT

The first 3 are all really close. Davis is the safest bet because hes tried and true for the longest. He can do everything you want out of a modern big. Score inside, outside (out to 21 ft), pass a bit, board and he's a solid help defender. His cons besides injury (which this year theyve finally let him tough through shit) is that he's had time to lead a team to the playoffs and make noise, but just barely got there. He's played on pretty bad teams though but no excuses right?

Embiid like Davis can do everything you want out of a modern big too, and he has a better 3 point shot. He's not as mobile a rebounder as Davis (more on that later) but he's better on the ball and as a help defender. He does what you want as a old school big really well. He eats up paint and intimidates drivers from coming in and he can help. On the ball he can move his feet enough to stay with most bigs and has the length to bother shots.
Whats interesting about him is his college game was so different than what he's become. He was a tall, lanky, rangy college big. I remember really liking him on our podcast, but Id be lying if I said I knew he would be this polished offensively. What I loved about him was his motor and range as a defender and rebounder. As he's put on size he's lost some of that mobility but he's such a big presence who can do so much on both ends of the floor. What I really love about him right now --is that he doesnt try and do too much. He often makes the right play and doesnt just force shit despite his talent. Its pretty incredible if you think about it despite him being relatively new to basketball. You are gonna be worried about injury with him for awhile, but the 6ers are in no rush to extend him past 28 minutes. And if he can keep this up I think he still has the highest ceiling.


Giannis is rightfully leading in votes. Statistically he's a monster despite some glaring holes in his game. So people will always say. "Man can you imagine when he can knock down that 3?"
Or wait til he understands the game a bit better. He's doing all of this only playing the game for about 10 yrs like Joel. As a pg in the Russy and Harden role he can do so much. he can get to the hole at will, he's a monster in transition, and has the ability to find open men. He has the best efg% of the group despite his poor 3pt shooting. Defensively, he gets in passing lanes and can recover so well to get blocks. You'd like him to be a bit tougher 1-on-1 but just his size and length is enough to scare most tier 2 guys from trying to go at him.


KAT -- I dont feel like typing much about KAT now. Essentially he's gotta get a little tougher on both ends of the floor, but otherwise he can do it all on both ends of the floor. He also has the tendency to go off, then just chill within the same game.

Honorable mention -- Jokic. Wont spend too much time on him either but this dude is an offensive Savant. Might be the most skilled offensive player out of this group-- and thats saying a lot. His passing is off the charts -- like GOAT status for his position at 21. He can score inside, mid-range, and outside. The main gripe with him is if he's a savant offensively, he's a total dunce on defense.

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17. "DAAAAAAAMN, KY ain't even make the cut? lolol"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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18. "apples and oranges"
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I decided to not play with the obvious bait in this post and just make it my own.

Almost excluded Giannis for the same reason, but at least he's 6'10 +

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20. "RE: This is a tough choice."
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The other thing i didnt mention about Embiid is how his personality seems to be the perfect fit for that young team. His good play/good natured leadership has pretty quickly changed the 6ers culture.

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22. "His flopping skills are savant like too..."
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>
>Honorable mention -- Jokic. Wont spend too much time on him
>either but this dude is an offensive Savant. Might be the most
>skilled offensive player out of this group-- and thats saying
>a lot. His passing is off the charts -- like GOAT status for
>his position at 21. He can score inside, mid-range, and
>outside. The main gripe with him is if he's a savant
>offensively, he's a total dunce on defense.


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24. "RE: His flopping skills are savant like too..."
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needed in the modern NBA unfortunately

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30. "Him and Nurkic complain about fouls is all-world too..."
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Sheed would be proud.


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36. "RE: This is a tough choice."
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sidenote - the young bigs in this league are on another level (potential wise) right now.

AD
KP
KAT
Embiid
Jokic
Turner

All guys with the potential to stretch the floor/protect the rim, & overall versatility on both sides of the ball.

You have the less mobile version of that with Gasol.

Then you have the young Chandler p&r/rim protector types like DJ & Drummond (& like you said, I think WCS has that potential too).

Plus you have Demarcus beasting fools all over the place & when he's engaged protects the rim in a Gasol type way (moving his feet/quick hands/being in right position).

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16. "damn y'all turned on AD already?"
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"June 16th, 1971, Mama gave birth to a hell-raisin' heavenly son..."

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25. "It's not a question of his talent"
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The constant stream of injuries are a legit concern, at least in my eyes.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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45. "if he stayed healthy I'd have him number one"
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23. "Giannis just needs any sort of help and he's a conference finalist"
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____________________

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27. "RE: Giannis just needs any sort of help and he's a conference finalist"
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Bari and Brogdon are good cornerstone help guys.

Guys that can do their job without the ball. If Middleton can do more to space the floor and or add someone else.

Just remember when you add pieces...dont add dudes who need the ball in their hands unless its gonna be your 6th man.


And find a defensive anchor big. Trade someone for WCS and give him a kick at C

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"What you really typed was FUCK YOU LARRY SANDERS"


  

          


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31. "What you really typed was FUCK YOU LARRY SANDERS"
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32. "RE: What you really typed was FUCK YOU LARRY SANDERS"
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he posted a couple weeks ago...he was getting that itch again.


YTou dont want a personality like him around youir young team anyways.

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26. "Zubac"
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aka Zublocka aka Zu Alcindor

---------------------------------
<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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L D E A

  

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28. "RE: Zubac"
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nets should trade for him so that Have Brook-Lin Zu

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38. "^^^DROPS SCIENCE LIKE GIRLS BE DROPPING BABIES"
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41. "*applauds this entire exchange*"
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...private when I fly, ball out like Bron do. You in the game, but you sit n' coach like Tyronn Lue - Royce

  

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44. "Nice...very nice."
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52. "aka ZuPac"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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33. "Kawhi's already been the best player on a title team, different category"
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That's the real reason to exclude him.

  

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35. "Ingram over anyone besides Giannis and Ky, too many concerns w the bigs"
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Injuries w AD and Embiid, attitude w KAT

  

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43. "KAT has "attitude" problems? this is the first I'm hearing of this..."
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>Injuries w AD and Embiid, attitude w KAT

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50. "Ingram is Tayshaun Prince status nm"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
http://40.media.tumblr.com/d8e2daf9f3f37244cd05436bcdf05973/tumblr_mt4qibKq4c1rgam01o1_1280.png

  

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53. "He's going to be a star IMO."
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46. "I saw Kat the other night, and it was breathtaking. "
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Dude has absolutely zero flaws.

None.

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47. "He's so good. And perfect for this era."
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I posted above that I have a slight concern about his attitude - seems like he should be better defensively than he actually is, and sometimes more assertive on offense. But the former is probably the product of youth and the latter is probably the product of Thibs' shitty coaching.

  

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49. "KATman vs The JOKer tonight"
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51. "Jokic has Z-Bo's athleticism/body & FIBA Pau's game"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
http://40.media.tumblr.com/d8e2daf9f3f37244cd05436bcdf05973/tumblr_mt4qibKq4c1rgam01o1_1280.png

  

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54. "KAT's start of the season was dissapointing, but he been ballin in Jan"
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last 5 game stretch:

28.6 ppg, 13.2 rebounds, 3.2 assists, 1.8 blocks, 1.0 steals.

Shooting splits: 62.1 / 40.0 / 87.5

https://twitter.com/NBA/status/823327328768061440

  

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55. "I finally found a good flask that keeps my coffee hot. "
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Got it from a random home supplies store.

It said 12 hours on the label thingy, but that's
a lie.

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58. "I fucks with this..."
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KR9OMLM/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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56. "Embiid's getting in shape. Uh oh."
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57. "heard him after the game? He admitted he's barely 50% meaning "
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THIS ISN'T EVEN HIS FINAL FORM

  

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59. "Brow winning this cuz he has an intelligent coach. "
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They fired Giannis' good coach, replaced him with a
dumb bumb.

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60. "we did a good job on this poll"
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Brow & Giannis co-leaders, embiid a competitive third, and two other guys, all ranked. good job okp.

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61. "Yup. Nothing mad to see here. "
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>Brow & Giannis co-leaders, embiid a competitive third, and
>two other guys, all ranked. good job okp.


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62. "Next poll needs Ben, though"
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edit: because i'd definitely take him over KAT and maybe...

uh...

MAYBE....

Nope. Not gonna say it. I shall not commit heresay.

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63. "im taking ben over everybody but AD"
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and that's honestly a dead heat. ben with a jumpshot is > the world

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64. "and giannis. gotta take giannis over ben RIGHT TODAY"
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ben may end up better, but giannis is already a top 5-6 player and legit mvp candidate. both brow and giannis are sure things, whereas ben is only a "probably" to reach that level.

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65. "Wait -- Giannis only two years older than BEN!?!? Bwahahah"
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Nah nah, I'm still going Giannis.

Ben is god status, no doubt.

But Giannis sold watches at halftime during games
the year he was drafted. He wasn't coddled and raised to
be a star.

Ben is Nigerian too, but I'm rolling with the Nigerian
who came to the place he was raised on a boat.

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66. "Ben mean tho O_E, like legit don't like nobody"
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he barely tolerates his team mates. And he's arrogant. They ask him do he watch other rookies, he say 'hell naw, I watch Bron, Russ, Curry, Durant.' They ask him who should be ROY he say "you playing right?". They ask him, what do he think of the allstar game and he say "It was some ole booolsheeet! How I ain't make the team?".

Ben Simmons don't care about nothing but greatness man. To a selfish level. I'm gonna say this, at the risk of it biting me in the a** later but, he 'looks' like Kobe's mindset + Lebron's skillset O_o.

He a jumper and experience away from a shot at GOATness.

I bet he look at Embiid like a nice lil sidekick that can't stay healthy. He gonna tutor Fultz and have him on the NGAF train soon. I bet he punch a teammate after a disappointing loss at some point in his career.

If his Kobe mindset evolves into an MJ mindset (that's when it matures past 'hate everyone...THIS IS ME!' to 'I'm going to dominate you and make you love me at the same time')...maaaaaaaaan listen.

Giannis is tough and he's a jumper away from GOATiness too. Should be fun watching them chase the throne.





But Ben is mean, fam.

  

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67. "100 percent accurate"
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i have watched ben snatch an uncontested rebound away from a teammate more than ten times this season. it's been happening less frequently with embiid lately, which leads me to think embiid had to tell him that he was gonna get fucked up if he kept stealing's jojo's stats. those two could absolutely be headed for a shaq/kobe beef, which, as long as i get three rings out of it, COOL.

but yes, ben is a TOTAL asshole. no coincidence justice hit him with those words last game. that lil' elbow move they've been calling lately is 90 percent ben playing good basketball, 10 percent ben wants to beat you AND fuck you up. he's really only scratched the surface of his dirty player potential

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68. "You know what?!?! I'm sticking to Giannis but LOVE this argument. "
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I appreciate this argument.

Well done.

It does seem to be true.

That interview when he was asked about other
rookies?!?! LMAO! I was like "Whoa, this dude
a sincere, genuine asshole. Like, almost Isiah
Thomas grade."



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69. "Ben great, but has some bothersome Nyquil genes"
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That ain't gonna get it done.

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70. "Nah "
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He just wasn’t ready for playoff intensity. By Game 4 he was figuring it out.

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71. "those guys usually have jumpers...ben hit 20 points, i'm legit stunned."
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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