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rzaroch36
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"49ers Offseason Thread"


          

Chip and Baalke gone.

Kap gone?

Where does the team go from here?

Jed has some decisions to make, does he make the right ones?

And most importantly, Kap and Chip go out beating SEA at home, called it!

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Eh, can''t be bothered to care either way about Chip
Dec 31st 2016
1
this is kinda how i feel...
Jan 04th 2017
10
you sincerely asking this, fam?
Jan 01st 2017
2
RE: you sincerely asking this, fam?
Jan 03rd 2017
7
jed was a bit arrogant in his presser
Jan 06th 2017
18
Jeff was on the radio making his plea again...
Jan 04th 2017
9
*Sigh*
Jan 03rd 2017
3
niners need to re-establish a culture of winning.
Jan 03rd 2017
4
Did Kaep save his career?
Jan 03rd 2017
5
RE: Did Kaep save his career?
Jan 03rd 2017
6
he played a good 2nd half of the year...
Jan 04th 2017
11
      ^^
Jan 06th 2017
20
I really doubt another team is going to give him more than $14.5 million
Jan 03rd 2017
8
      we have the option to cut him don't we
Jan 05th 2017
12
           Yep.
Jan 05th 2017
13
                If they go Patriots West, they might trade for Jimmy G.
Jan 05th 2017
14
                     Trading for Jimmy G would be a huge mistake
Jan 05th 2017
15
                          Is that what the Pats want?
Jan 05th 2017
16
                          Yeah, the reports is they want a first and a fourth
Jan 05th 2017
17
                          RE: Trading for Jimmy G would be a huge mistake
Jan 06th 2017
19
                               at this point i'm ok developing a QB...
Jan 06th 2017
21
                                    after watching the game last night...
Jan 10th 2017
22
hmm.. as suspected, it ain't 100% jed why candiates have said 'no thx'
Jan 19th 2017
23
of course in a not so indirect way, by doing nothing it kind of "is" Jed
Jan 19th 2017
24
"i don't want shanny, he blew it!" - niner nation overreactions today
Feb 06th 2017
25
$95MM under the cap? terry donahue's clutching pearls somewhere
Mar 08th 2017
26
yeah i said this in the free agent thread...
Mar 08th 2017
27
      i'm just glad to see us this active, with still the draft to go
Mar 10th 2017
31
jimmie ward to safety, bye bethea...
Mar 08th 2017
28
RE: jimmie ward to safety, bye bethea...
Mar 08th 2017
29
      am i the only one who thinks reids days are numbered, at least at FS?
Mar 08th 2017
30
           i forgot about tart...
Mar 10th 2017
32
thoughts on the free agent moves thus far?
Mar 10th 2017
33
RE: thoughts on the free agent moves thus far?
Mar 10th 2017
34
imo, we have to draft a surer thing in the 2nd round...
Mar 10th 2017
36
      RE: imo, we have to draft a surer thing in the 2nd round...
Mar 10th 2017
38
           haha, sheeeit, i defended the alex smith pick for 7 years.
Mar 13th 2017
39
RE: thoughts on the free agent moves thus far?
Mar 10th 2017
35
      i'll miss dawson too...
Mar 10th 2017
37
dwight clark has ALS ("lou gehrig’s disease")
Mar 20th 2017
40
re: richard sherman
Apr 07th 2017
41
CB is one of the positions where we've actually drafted well
Apr 07th 2017
43
Tramaine Brock arrested for felony domestic violence
Apr 07th 2017
42
released!
Apr 10th 2017
44
So, that went well
May 01st 2017
45
Great draft on paper
May 01st 2017
46
beathard was projected to go in the sixth....
May 02nd 2017
47
D-Line should be stacked for years to come
May 02nd 2017
48
Awesome first round
May 02nd 2017
49
malcolm smith... torn pec... out for the season
Aug 07th 2017
50
Kaep question
Aug 07th 2017
51
"just ain't gonna work out" - john lynch via mayer hawthorne
Aug 07th 2017
52
I think he just wanted out and figured some other team would sign him
Aug 07th 2017
53
passing game looked really fluid last night with the 1's
Aug 28th 2017
54
vance has been traded...
Aug 29th 2017
55
lots of early praise for reuben foster...
Aug 29th 2017
56
dude looks legit
Aug 29th 2017
57
Foster's first half vs the Vikings. https://twitter.com/JohnMiddlekauff/...
Aug 30th 2017
59
Steeler fan here, is Vance any good?
Aug 30th 2017
58
kid got a lot of flack from us because of the drops
Aug 30th 2017
60
he can run, but "stone hands" will frustrate you in big spots.
Aug 30th 2017
61
      he dropped his first target and the other TE had 2 TD's
Sep 11th 2017
65
cuts/opening roster
Sep 05th 2017
62
RE: cuts/opening roster
Sep 06th 2017
63
*sigh*
Sep 11th 2017
64
agree with all of this
Sep 11th 2017
66
god bless the defense for keeping 'em in the game...
Sep 18th 2017
67
i'm going to keep my comments positive...
Sep 18th 2017
68
Rams 41 - 49ers 39
Sep 22nd 2017
69
bro, i wanna fight robbie gould.
Sep 22nd 2017
70
      hoyer's going to have to really play himself...
Sep 26th 2017
71
           alright, it's been four weeks of this. that's all i need to see.
Oct 02nd 2017
72
                crying @ "mini ryback"
Oct 02nd 2017
73
                RE: alright, it's been four weeks of this. that's all i need to see.
Oct 02nd 2017
74
                RE: alright, it's been four weeks of this. that's all i need to see.
Oct 04th 2017
76
                Yeah I'm done with Hoyer
Oct 03rd 2017
75
4 L's by a combined 11 points?!?!
Oct 09th 2017
77
I see us going 0-16
Oct 09th 2017
78
LOL, top 3 funniest moment ever
Oct 09th 2017
79
Bowman released.... Fuck this Year
Oct 13th 2017
80
It's bad optics but it's not a surprise
Oct 13th 2017
81
      Man all i can think of is the last play at the stick
Oct 13th 2017
82
           Can't tell you how many times I watched the video
Oct 13th 2017
83
           RE: Man all i can think of is the last play at the stick
Oct 13th 2017
84
RE: 49ers Offseason Thread
Oct 23rd 2017
85
RE: 49ers Offseason Thread
Oct 23rd 2017
86
Another 1st round d lineman
Oct 23rd 2017
87
after that idiotic survey the front office floated last week to the fans...
Oct 31st 2017
88
RE: 49ers Offseason Thread
Nov 07th 2017
89

mrhood75
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1. "Eh, can''t be bothered to care either way about Chip"
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This organization has a shit-ton of problems, the main one being is that the team is rotten at the core: as in the Yorks.

>Kaep gone?

I dunno. Maybe? Again, can't really be bothered to care either way. As said above this team has a shit ton of issues; I'm not even sure if QB makes the top 10. Kaep already played his hand by saying he's opting out, but I find it really hard to believe that some team is going to sign him for more than he would make if he stuck with the Niners. I dunno, maybe the Jets take a gamble, but I doubt they give him $15 million. I certainly wouldn't mind having him on the roster while whoever we draft gets ready.

I'm certainly hoping that there's not some thought that we HAVE to draft a QB in the first round. We need a home run hitter at any position at this point. Hate to absolutely commit to it being a QB.

>Where does the team go from here?

Well, I'm sure the Yorks are hoping to bring in some hot shit team president and sell them the idea of complete control and a blank slate to rebuild one of the storied NFL franchises. And I do think there's still some talent to build around, once they sort out who's healthy and who's not.

>Jed has some decisions to make, does he make the right ones?

If he does indeed remain in charge, I have zero confidence.

>And most importantly, Kap and Chip go out beating SEA at home,
>called it!

Seattle still something to play for, so I doubt it.

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10. "this is kinda how i feel..."
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it's hard to care about anything they do at this point because there are so many holes and there has been no sign of any progress. it's been the same thing year after year. i will always ride for this team but i watch each and every game like my mama's forcing me to eat broccoli lol.

  

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2. "you sincerely asking this, fam?"
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>Jed has some decisions to make, does he make the right ones?

4th head coach in as many years.

in a perfect world, jed would get chancellor-valorum'd by his mom in a vote of no confidence.

ownership's so shamelessly dysfunctional that they leaked info again (IMO). as long as paraag marathe (the resident leaker) is still in the building and involded in football decisions, i don't expect anything different. jed said paraag's gonna lead the search from the new GM. oh joy. we need football people -- not a stanford MBA math whiz -- to bring in football people.

now you see why i was so negative on here about tomsula getting hired over gase and mcdaniels, despite some of the perma-positives rationalizing the decision.

tomsula and baalke should've been fired in tandem last year. could've avoided the problem of misalignment between the coach/GM kinship.

also, LOL @ jeff garcia soliciting his candidacy to jed on twitter.


  

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7. "RE: you sincerely asking this, fam?"
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I'm the forever optimist when it comes to my sports teams, and often to a fault.

My hope is that Jed makes a good hire at GM and stays out of the way.

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18. "jed was a bit arrogant in his presser"
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and he said paraag will be in the room for the interviews. wtf. wasn't paraag removed last year from the football side of the business and banished to overseeing that MLS team?

where's al guido?

i like how jed says he stays consulting with eddie. ain't a consigliere alive who would sign-off on anything he's done.

i will say that the GM candidates look appealing so far. if you we go with one of the packers execs + kyle shanahan, we get the WCO pedigree.

again, though... can the Lucky Sperm and his business bros stay outta the way and be PATIENT during a re-build? can he honestly make that a selling point for candidates for either job? 'cause he's not gonna get the pick of the litter again (chip vs. hue jax last year) if he needs to take credit for everything per usual.

  

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9. "Jeff was on the radio making his plea again..."
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Gotta admire the guy for going for it. He also said he could correct Kaep's mechanics...ummm, Jeff Garcia wasn't the most technically sound of QBs LOL.

  

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3. "*Sigh*"
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Pretty much my whole take on the Niners the last few seasons.

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4. "niners need to re-establish a culture of winning."
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or so i heard. Haha

  

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5. "Did Kaep save his career?"
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I think dude still has talent he has just been in a shitshow the past few seasons. This organization use to be one of the best run, now it's one of the 5 worst.

You know Kape had more TD passes than Alex Smith this year?


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6. "RE: Did Kaep save his career?"
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He was good in the 2nd half of the season, and I would imagine with better wr's he would have performed better.

I mean, Connor Cook and Matt Moore are starting playoff games this weekend, so Kap should be able to be a backup somewhere at least. He can defbstart for a few teams as well.

However, he has external baggage now so we'll see.

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11. "he played a good 2nd half of the year..."
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but was still horrible the 2nd half of games. his numbers ended up being decent (16 td's/4 int's) and i have no doubt he can be a starter...but in the wrong system, we also see how bad he could be.

  

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20. "^^"
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>but was still horrible the 2nd half of games. his numbers
>ended up being decent (16 td's/4 int's) and i have no doubt he
>can be a starter...but in the wrong system, we also see how
>bad he could be.
>

he was the 2nd-highest rated passer in the 1st half, but he had like 45% completions in the 2nd half. guys were wide open a lot of times too.

  

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8. "I really doubt another team is going to give him more than $14.5 million"
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next season. Or even a multiyear deal with guaranteed money. Not even the Jets. Yes, he played better in the second half, but he wasn't blowing doors off of hinges. His smartest move is probably to stick it out with the Niners for another year. Otherwise he's going to be playing as a back-up somewhere for a lot less money.

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12. "we have the option to cut him don't we"
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with no guaranteed money?

  

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13. "Yep."
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Thu Jan-05-17 01:58 PM by mrhood75

  

          

I'd definitely like to see who we draft and if there's someone out there via FA that we might take a flier on before we waive Kaep. I think any talk about "We need to wipe the slate completely clean and get rid of him NOW" is premature. Reminds me too much of the '03 off-season.

From Kaep's perspective tho, we're still the best option. Certainly from a money stand-point. Most likely from a PT stand-point as well.

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14. "If they go Patriots West, they might trade for Jimmy G."
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Heard somewhere that York wants to get Caserio and Josh McDaniels. I could see them trading down for multiple picks and using one of those picks to deal for a QB.

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15. "Trading for Jimmy G would be a huge mistake"
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Especially at the Patriots asking price.

We have the second overall pick, and a lot of big needs. So, as said above, we need to use that pick to draft the proverbial can't miss home-run hitter that's available there. Trading down for multiple picks and then converting a first and a fourth for Garoppolo would be asking for continued mediocrity. I'd rather draft a 3rd rounder and let him develop.

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16. "Is that what the Pats want?"
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I was thinking we'd get a second rounder and maybe another later pick, at best.

But I don't disagree overall. Especially given the state of the team, there's no reason to rush things. The whole offense needs work so just get a stop gap to hold down the QB spot until whoever you draft is ready. (And if you whiff on the pick, you can always try to trade/sign a vet QB once you get the rest of the offense set up.)

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17. "Yeah, the reports is they want a first and a fourth"
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>I was thinking we'd get a second rounder and maybe another
>later pick, at best.

A second and fifth I could see, especially since the Niners' second rounder is essentially a cheaper first round pick. But again, we've got so many damn holes we'd likely be besting served using the second rounder to fill one of them as well.

>But I don't disagree overall. Especially given the state of
>the team, there's no reason to rush things. The whole offense
>needs work so just get a stop gap to hold down the QB spot
>until whoever you draft is ready. (And if you whiff on the
>pick, you can always try to trade/sign a vet QB once you get
>the rest of the offense set up.)

Pretty much.

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19. "RE: Trading for Jimmy G would be a huge mistake"
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although we got high double digits of cap room, i'm never a fan of trading for *the guy who stepped in for a HOF'er and won a few games* either.

i think kap's finished here, but i don't wanna make a reach pick for a QB in the draft either.

  

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21. "at this point i'm ok developing a QB..."
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there's no point trading away top picks for a jimmy g when there's so many holes on this team, there's no way he could flourish here anyway.

  

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22. "after watching the game last night..."
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i wouldn't be mad at taking deshaun watson @ #2.

don't trust QB's from notre dame, and trubisky is probably going to cleveland.

  

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23. "hmm.. as suspected, it ain't 100% jed why candiates have said 'no thx'"
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"Despite the widespread popular belief that the 49ers are currently the most dysfunctional team in football, the thinking in league circles is that, with some tweaks, the G.M. and coaching jobs could be desirable. The impediment to attracting their preferred candidates isn’t owner Jed York; apparently, it’s Chief Strategy Officer and EVP of Football Operations Paraag Marathe."

...

"Put simply, Marathe has influence, along with the ear of ownership. He’s been there for 16 years, and he has transcended the bubble of accountability in which coaches and General Managers reside. And that’s precisely the kind of dynamic coaches and General Managers try to avoid.

"Shanahan is embracing it because, as his final package will demonstrate, he leveraged the team’s desperation to his full advantage. Moving forward, however, it’s an elephant in the room that may be serving as an oversized anchor."

http://ninerswire.usatoday.com/2017/01/18/paraag-marathe-described-as-impediment-to-49ers-in-nfl-circles/

  

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24. "of course in a not so indirect way, by doing nothing it kind of "is" Jed"
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unless Mommy and Daddy said he can't touch Paraag

  

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25. ""i don't want shanny, he blew it!" - niner nation overreactions today"
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look, he should've run to set up the FG to go up by 11, but ryan can't take a back-breaking sack there either. shared culpability if you ask me.

re: lynch @ GM, admittedly i threw my arms up with eyes rolling about a guy with zero front-office experience, coming into the run draft for the worst roster in the league.

i will say that adam peters and his resume seems like a good hire, though, if you're gonna have an underboss to lynch.

the most important thing in all this is jed and paraag staying outta the way obviously.

  

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26. "$95MM under the cap? terry donahue's clutching pearls somewhere"
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i'm fine with garcon getting a front-loaded contract.

the one (well, only) good thing paraag does well is contracts and manage the cap. i don't think he's ever had a bad contract on the books. he basically hustled kaepernick on his deal.

  

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27. "yeah i said this in the free agent thread..."
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i don't mind garcon's contract cuz we can pay him less in the tail end of the contract...plus this is the year we can overpay, shit we HAVE to, why would anyone want to come to this disfunctional ass organization.

  

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31. "i'm just glad to see us this active, with still the draft to go"
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last year baalke signed....like...one guy?

shanny's bringing in vets who know his offense, so hopefully that'll help in this transition/rebuild.

  

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28. "jimmie ward to safety, bye bethea..."
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i thought ward took some big steps last year. i think he'll fit in just well at safety w/ reid on the other side. they also signed k'waun williams who would replace ward at the nickel.

  

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29. "RE: jimmie ward to safety, bye bethea..."
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Would tart fit better at Safety with Reid?

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30. "am i the only one who thinks reids days are numbered, at least at FS?"
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he looked like the worst cover safety in the league last year before he tore the bicep. and he's an UFA after this season.

tartt at SS and ward at free?

  

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32. "i forgot about tart..."
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he had a pretty solid year last year. i wouldn't mind if that happened at all.
though who knows. if i remember correctly, reid's downfall happened after concussion issues. he may have a bounce back year.

  

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33. "thoughts on the free agent moves thus far?"
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key losses
-phil dawson
-torrey smith
-anotine bethea

additions
-pierre garcon
-marquise goodwin
-robbie gould
-brian hoyer
-logan paulsen
-kyle juice check (i'm going to have to get used to spelling his name)
-malcolm smith

thoughts
-can't really complian, they're obv aggressively pursuing players that fit areas of need (then again, what area is not of need)
-mike glennon's contract sure makes the brian hoyer signing a decent one
-now i do hope we draft and groom a future qb rather than holding out for cousins next year
-did we need another TE esp since juice check can prob play some in that position too?
-btw that juice check signing is pretty dope

  

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34. "RE: thoughts on the free agent moves thus far?"
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>key losses
>-phil dawson
washed

>-torrey smith
dueces. eagle fans are gonna watch him *not* get open a lot next year.

>-anotine bethea
sounds like he picked up where donte whitner left off as a hell of a leader in the locker room. but time to move on.

>
>additions
>-pierre garcon
given that baalke couldn't evaluate WR talent for shit, i'm just glad to a have proven at the position. and his contract doesn't hurt us. my guess is we take a wideout in the first few rounds anyway.

>-marquise goodwin
>-robbie gould
the dude that basically allowed us to win the bears game in '15. wide left.

>-brian hoyer
serviceable and played in shanny's system. game manager?

>-logan paulsen
>-kyle juice check (i'm going to have to get used to spelling
>his name)
>-malcolm smith
as discussed in the FA thread, solid pickup to complement bowman, and as you said, ray ray, as uncertainties. and smith can play inside or outside in saleh's 4-3.

>
>thoughts
>-can't really complian, they're obv aggressively pursuing
>players that fit areas of need (then again, what area is not
>of need)
>-mike glennon's contract sure makes the brian hoyer signing a
>decent one
>-now i do hope we draft and groom a future qb rather than
>holding out for cousins next year

i'm not feeling the whole "wait for cousins in '2018" stuff either. what if he sucks or gets hurt next season?

give us a kid shanny can groom. i'm warming up to deshaun watson @ #2, if the war room's going QB first.

>-did we need another TE esp since juice check can prob play
>some in that position too?
i don't understand that one really. vance and celek are fine. if vance could cut down the drops, he's pretty good. he was like top 3 in yards per catch for starting TE's.

>-btw that juice check signing is pretty dope

wait, we signed matt barkley too? LOL

  

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36. "imo, we have to draft a surer thing in the 2nd round..."
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from what i've heard, jonathan allen is the 2nd most talented guy on the board and allen, armstead, buckner would be a hell of a d line. i think the addition of hoyer allows us to sit back a bit and wait for a qb in round 2 or later.

  

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38. "RE: imo, we have to draft a surer thing in the 2nd round..."
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I AGree
Too many holes to go qb
Get a sure thing
No Cam or Luck in this draft (however I'm such a huge homer/optimist that if they go qb then I will praise the talent evaluation)

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39. "haha, sheeeit, i defended the alex smith pick for 7 years."
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35. "RE: thoughts on the free agent moves thus far?"
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>key losses
>-phil dawson

I'll miss him. A steady kicker is so underrated. He might be done tho.

>-torrey smith

Hey I wish he could have done more for us, but he didn't, so... deuces.

>-anotine bethea

I'm gonna miss him. His first year here was great. And a great locker room presence.

>additions
>-pierre garcon
>-marquise goodwin
>-robbie gould
>-brian hoyer
>-logan paulsen
>-kyle juice check (i'm going to have to get used to spelling
>his name)
>-malcolm smith

Sure, we overpaid some of these guys, but that's what gonna have to do until we get right. And yeah, we're filling our (many) needs.



>-now i do hope we draft and groom a future qb rather than
>holding out for cousins next year

Draft a QB in the 3rd or 4th at least regardless. St. Walsh always used to say that you should draft a QB **every** year at some point. Plus, holding out for a year for Cousins seems silly, because zero is promised.

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37. "i'll miss dawson too..."
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the niners have been lucky w/ taking advantage of kickers in latter part of their careers. we got the most that we could from nedney and dawson and hopefully the same will go for gould.

  

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40. "dwight clark has ALS ("lou gehrig’s disease")"
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Dwight Clark, who authored the most iconic play in San Francisco 49ers history, announced on Sunday he has been diagnosed with ALS.

Clark turned 60 in January. He played nine NFL seasons, all with the 49ers, from 1979 to ’87.

According to the ALS Association, approximately 6,000 people in the United States are diagnosed with the disorder each year and an estimated 20,000 may be living with ALS in the U.S. at any given time.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/49ers-legend-dwight-clark-announces-als-diagnosis

  

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41. "re: richard sherman"
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would y'all want him? we're still $76MM under the cap. he's due $11MM a season for the remaining two on his contract.

and... saleh's implementing seattle's scheme on defense.

i don't know if schneider trades him intra-division, tho.

and... this draft is deep @ corner. most of the mocks have four corners going in the 1st round.

  

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43. "CB is one of the positions where we've actually drafted well"
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It's one of our strengths.

However, given the Tramaine Brock situation below, might not be awful to give him a look. Or spend a later draft pick on a CB.

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42. "Tramaine Brock arrested for felony domestic violence"
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44. "released!"
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it's a new sherriff in town, and it ain't reggie hammond (c)

  

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45. "So, that went well"
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First three picks went a long way to rebuilding our defense. Drafting Beathard in the 3rd was a solid move; it allows the guy to develop for a few years, will we use Hoyer this year and maybe sign Cousins next year, or possibly draft an even more promising QB in 2018. Buzz is good on Williams and Kittle (who could end up a FB). Not a bad haul for Lynch and Shanny's first time out.

And for all the shit we give Parag, dude apparently did his thing this time around, and was instrumental in fleecing the Bears.

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46. "Great draft on paper"
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Hope it translates to the field.

How much credit does Baalke even get at this point? Seems like he deserves more blame.

Also, with coaching/scheme changes, draft and FA moves, this team is going to look a lot different.

Still a tough schedule.

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47. "beathard was projected to go in the sixth...."
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so on paper it seemed like a reach. but shanny must've seen something he liked. we'll see.

foster could be a great pick @ ILB, considering bowman and armstrong are coming off season-enders. (personally i think bowman's extremely damaged goods at this point.)

re: paraag, i no doubt cringed when they showed him and jed/john in the war room, high fiving and all. "aww wtf are they all doing there? still meddling???" it looks like paraag's "draft charts" paid off, though.

pundit consensus seems to be an "A-" draft grade.

looks like the team picked up jimmie ward's option for 2018 and are signing a couple vet o-linemen too, so that's good.

it already seems like night and day between lynch's crew and baalke in being proactive.

  

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48. "D-Line should be stacked for years to come"
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hopefully the Aaron Donald comparisons to Thomas are right.




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49. "Awesome first round"
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Two immediate starters. D should be vastly improved and hopefully bowman and Reid return to form of a few years ago

  

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50. "malcolm smith... torn pec... out for the season"
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i'm feeling kinda triggered.

  

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51. "Kaep question"
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Why did he opt out and not try to renegotiate with the team? Did he expect to get more suitors? Why would he not want to be with the team that visibly and financially supported him during his protest?

Did he expect that a new coach/regime would offload him anyway? I just always thought that the best place for him to be was in San Fran, all things considered.

  

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52. ""just ain't gonna work out" - john lynch via mayer hawthorne"
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>Why did he opt out and not try to renegotiate with the team?
>Did he expect to get more suitors? Why would he not want to
>be with the team that visibly and financially supported him
>during his protest?
>
>Did he expect that a new coach/regime would offload him
>anyway? I just always thought that the best place for him to
>be was in San Fran, all things considered.

kap was gonna get cut anyway if he hadn't opted out.

the beat writers wrote a bunch of articles with quotes from lynch saying they were moving on, after shanny and lynch mad met with kap in santa clara. lynch gave a lil lip service saying they'd "keep the door open"... but naw.

though kap won the team's len eshmont award --- essentially proving he wasn't a "locker room distraction" --- i think privately the yorks as owners weren't willing to be in that kind of spotlight again versus Murica for another season.

  

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53. "I think he just wanted out and figured some other team would sign him"
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He renegotiated his contract and left money on the table for the express purpose of being able to opt out. During the season he announced he was going to opt out. Then he did, and the Niners signed a bunch of QBs almost immediately.

It seems like he thought that getting his new agent to announce that he wouldn't kneel anymore would be enough for other teams to have interest in him. He just didn't count on how racist/afraid the other NFL owners are.

This morning LeBatard said he's become the patron saint of bad QBs, since all these teams are signing mediocre losers over him.

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54. "passing game looked really fluid last night with the 1's"
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kinda fun seeing a fullback.

george kittle out there bodying people and continuing to impress.

who is this kid mostert????

  

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55. "vance has been traded..."
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i liked what i saw w/ kittle so looks like we're going w/ the young guys at TE. that said, we also have juice check (eventually i'll learn how to spell his name) who basically fits the same role. so i don't think an experienced TE was especially crucial.

  

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56. "lots of early praise for reuben foster..."
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guy looks like a beast. comparisons to willis are way too premature, willis came out a polished tackling machine right off the bat. foster on the other hand is just a fucking bullet train. it'll be fun to watch.

also, is it me or is eric reid playing his ass off right now?

  

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57. "dude looks legit"
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Him and a healthy Bowman look great. Add in a healthy read and a young aggressive D Line. We will be a much better D than last year.

  

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59. "Foster's first half vs the Vikings. https://twitter.com/JohnMiddlekauff/..."
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https://twitter.com/JohnMiddlekauff/status/902646027353710592



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58. "Steeler fan here, is Vance any good? "
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shut up already, damn

  

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60. "kid got a lot of flack from us because of the drops"
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but you know what? with the right QB who can go through his reads and not just 100 mph it in tight windows - Vance can do just fine. He simply didn't feel comfortable catching Kap's one note fastballs



He looked much more comfortable with Gabbert last season. Like the TE we expected when we drafted him.


WIth Big Ben I expect Vance to be a solid TE for you guys




Also, we didn't necessarily trade him for poor play. We just have some young TE's on the roster who are showing promise.

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61. "he can run, but "stone hands" will frustrate you in big spots. "
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3rd highest YPC last year for TE's, but...

he's got the highest rate of drops for TE's over the 4 years he's been in the league. some of it's been on the qb play (kap's high heat on 4-yard curl route), some of it not (i specifically remember two of gabbert's INT's hitting vance right in the hands first).

  

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65. "he dropped his first target and the other TE had 2 TD's"
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shut up already, damn

  

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62. "cuts/opening roster"
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-suprised kerley got cut but between goodwin, trent taylor, and bolden, kerley became expendable. he was one of the few bright spots last year. i hope he gets picked up by a good team.

-did the joe williams injury just come out of nowhere?

-i forgot how long quinton dial has been on the team.

-looks like ward may still be hurt for the opener. good opportunity for tartt but this sucks as there was a lot of faith put on ward this year.

  

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63. "RE: cuts/opening roster"
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>-suprised kerley got cut but between goodwin, trent taylor,
>and bolden, kerley became expendable. he was one of the few
>bright spots last year. i hope he gets picked up by a good
>team.

yeah this one was weird. thought kerley had a brighter future here as a #2 or 3 after lynch had signed him to that extension. the good thing about the offense is that it seems like you can plug and play different guys at wideout w/out any noticeable drop off... 'cause guys are relatively wide open.

really excited about goodwin. dude can just burn.

>
>-did the joe williams injury just come out of nowhere?

i saw the headline was like "what??? alrighty then." if hyde misses his usual few games, i think we're fine with mostert and yoooooooos-check picking up the slack.

they way they're using the FB has mike shanny '92-'94 fingerprints written all over it.

>
>-i forgot how long quinton dial has been on the team.

quinton's on on his way. quinton's on his way. quinton's on his way to another team and that's okaaaaay. and that's okaaay.

>-looks like ward may still be hurt for the opener. good
>opportunity for tartt but this sucks as there was a lot of
>faith put on ward this year.

tartt seems to have good range, so we'll see.

reid is whom i got my eye on. he basically sucked after the big concussion last year, but in the preseason he looked good in coverage and was blowin dudes up.

time for the regular season thread i guess.

  

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64. "*sigh*"
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can we make this the offseason for 2018 thread? lol.

i kid...partially. i'll be honest, i naively fell to a lot of the high praise for the team in the offseason. this game brought be down to earth. i think at the end of the year, we'll look back and see a lot of improvement but this was definitely an eye opener as to how much work we need on our offense.

-hyde looked better than any point in the preseason. at one point, you could tell they REALLY wanted to reward him w/ a td, going to him 3x straight in the red zone. had they not been down by so much at the end, i think his numbers would have told a better story.
-hoyer is what we thought he was. he'll have these games and he'll have some solid ones. there's a reason why he's been given a chance by so many teams but also been cut by just as many.
-jeez foster looked good for the short time he was there didn't he? i have a feeling we'll have to get used to a lot of highs and lows w/ this guy but i sure hope he stays healthy.
-i have to applaud shanahan for going on 4th and 1 4 times. he admitted he wanted to give the crowd something to cheer for...shit, coach gives you a chance, at a certain point, it's up to the players to deliver.
-watching the empty stadium is so pathetic. i was a season ticket holder in the nolan/singletary era and it was never that empty...not even in our 2 win season.

  

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66. "agree with all of this"
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zane beadles... good lord.

allowed a sack, one hit, four hurries

some of the peanut gallery's already calling for beathard. i mean, it's week 1.

the big drop by goodwin was pretty deflating.

  

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67. "god bless the defense for keeping 'em in the game..."
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'cause hoyer was/is trash. second week in a row he hasn't seen the mike linebacker sitting in coverage.

goodwin's killing me. another pivotal drop. outcome mighta been different.

beathard's gotta get the nod if hoyer stinks it up on TNF, right?

anyway, that defense. on the field for 80 plays.

***mods can you change the title to make this the regular season thread? grazie.

  

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68. "i'm going to keep my comments positive..."
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1. defense - looked good, can't really ask for much more...maybe secure a few more of those close interceptions but for a unit that hasn't played much together, they did well.

2. safeties - the game started w/ big plays by reid, then tartt, then ward. ward came out like he was WAITING all off season to hit someone. i sure hope reid is ok because i want to see what these guys can do as a full unit.

3. bowman - oh hello old man (lead team in tackles).

4. special teams - got some good returns by bolden.

5. marquis goodwin - dude is REALLY fast.................at dropping balls.

(hey, i tried)

  

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69. "Rams 41 - 49ers 39"
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After a horrible start, that ended up being quite the game. Robbie Gould's gotta be kicking himself (see what I did there?) after we could have had a tied game had he not missed an extra point. Gurley was a scoring machine but we saw good games from Hyde and Garcon. Hoyer's numbers will show that he had a decent game but he made some big mistakes (interception, missed chances). Marquis Goodwin finally caught a long ball. I want to see more of Trent Taylor.

  

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70. "bro, i wanna fight robbie gould."
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and that PI call on trent taylor was the biggest bunch of BS i've ever seen.

but... too many dumb mistakes and penalties overall.

>After a horrible start, that ended up being quite the game.
>Robbie Gould's gotta be kicking himself (see what I did
>there?) after we could have had a tied game had he not missed
>an extra point. Gurley was a scoring machine but we saw good
>games from Hyde and Garcon. Hoyer's numbers will show that he
>had a decent game but he made some big mistakes (interception,
>missed chances). Marquis Goodwin finally caught a long ball. I
>want to see more of Trent Taylor.

i haven't had a chance to read maiocco or anyone today, but i think hoyer bought himself another couple of weeks.

  

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71. "hoyer's going to have to really play himself..."
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out of a job in order for shanahan to go elsewhere. they have a history and as much as shanahan likes beathard to i don't know if they'd just throw him out there a la alex smith.

  

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72. "alright, it's been four weeks of this. that's all i need to see."
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i know the dropped passes ain't helping, but mini ryback can't evade the rush whatsoever, and his accuracy is atrocious when it matters.

guys are open.

two 70+ drives and ultimately not being able to finish the job in the red zone.

  

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73. "crying @ "mini ryback""
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74. "RE: alright, it's been four weeks of this. that's all i need to see."
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Maybe we wait until we got a top,3 pick locked up to change qb's?

Also Kaep better

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76. "RE: alright, it's been four weeks of this. that's all i need to see."
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>Maybe we wait until we got a top,3 pick locked up to change
>qb's?

then i guess i still don't understand why we moved up three rounds to grab beathard so he could hold a clipboard indefinitely.

>
>Also Kaep better

indeed. this brandon weeden shit is the most egregious so far.

  

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75. "Yeah I'm done with Hoyer"
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that being said, the times when he has thrown an accurate deep ball have been dropped



team is just good enough to lose





I care wayyy more about watching our defense play than our offense anyway. At this point, I'm just waiting to see Foster get back out there and see what our front 7 can do


Buckner and Armstead are shaping up to be Smith Bros 2.0

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77. "4 L's by a combined 11 points?!?!"
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this is BULLSHIT!!! - bret hart

  

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78. "I see us going 0-16"
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The only question I have is will the Browns and Giants do it to.

  

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79. "LOL, top 3 funniest moment ever"
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>this is BULLSHIT!!! - bret hart

also one of the realest... I liked "heel Bret"

  

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80. "Bowman released.... Fuck this Year"
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Jesus. He requested to be released as well. This organization is back to fucked.

  

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81. "It's bad optics but it's not a surprise"
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Two very bad injuries have caught up with him. He can still find holes, but he's got very little lateral movement anymore. And with Reuben Foster back, it was questionable if he was even going to start.

Word is they tried to trade him, but he didn't like the team that the were going to trade him to, so they just released him instead. That suggests that they weren't going to get much for him anyway.

It sucks, because he could have ended up the second best defensive player the Niners ever had and would have been a Hall Of Famer, but those injuries fucked his career. It also sucks that now the only remnant of those three glory years is Joe Stalley. But it happens.

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82. "Man all i can think of is the last play at the stick"
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when he took the pick 98 yards to end the game. One of my favorite sports moments of all time.

  

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83. "Can't tell you how many times I watched the video"
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Especially the one scored with "When the Lights Go Down in the City." All-time great sports moment.

That fucking injury, man.

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84. "RE: Man all i can think of is the last play at the stick"
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>when he took the pick 98 yards to end the game. One of my
>favorite sports moments of all time.

i saw the schefter note earlier that bow was being shopped around. i mean, he's obviously lost a couple steps... and ray ray's been ballin and the youngsta's coming back this week... so i wasn't surprised after taking a couple deep breaths and looking at it holistically.

sure, my jaw dropped a bit at his outright release.

but he wanted it.. apparently.

i guess he didn't like whatever team he was gonna to out of the 31 that were contacted. so now he's got way more options.

belichick on line 1?

  

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85. "RE: 49ers Offseason Thread"
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I didn't see a season post, so i will post some thoughts here.

Is soloman thomas good? We have drafted d-line 3 years in a row, hope it works out.

Looks like we are playing a lot of rookies and locking up a top 3 pick, plus $90 mil in cap space. To early to look ahead at some free agents? We need a lot of help in a lot of different places.

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86. "RE: 49ers Offseason Thread"
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>I didn't see a season post, so i will post some thoughts
>here.
>
>Is soloman thomas good? We have drafted d-line 3 years in a
>row, hope it works out.
>
>Looks like we are playing a lot of rookies and locking up a
>top 3 pick, plus $90 mil in cap space. To early to look ahead
>at some free agents? We need a lot of help in a lot of
>different places.

the penalties are killing me. seems a like a ton 3rd down conversions we've allowed this year have been as a result of it.

coaches need to clean that up. at someone point shanny's gonna have to hire an o-coordinator and delegate.

but yay, at least marquis goodwin got to trade jerseys with dez bryant after the game! yay.

  

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87. "Another 1st round d lineman"
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/10/23/49ers-agree-to-terms-with-datone-jones/

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88. "after that idiotic survey the front office floated last week to the fans..."
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it looks like the nosedive has stabilized a bit.

why wait until garapollo had become a free agent after this season and overpay for him?

a 2nd rounder is fine. not mad at the trade.

as an aside and in hindsight, this year's first round is looking like a flop by trading back/passing on d-watson...and drafting thomas and foster.

  

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89. "RE: 49ers Offseason Thread"
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http://tinyurl.com/y7eqk9o3

  

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