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"OKS GD Post...October: What are you doing to stay fit?"


          

Sup, fellow old men and young-old men? I know we got a few days left in September, but it's been on my brain. So...me? I'm gettin at this iron, as usual. Not too long ago got on a program prioritizing the big 3: Squat, Deadlift and Bench Press. It's basically working from 75% and up of my 1RM on those three and adding in some accessory work for the rest of the body. Sometimes you just gotta take it back to the essence. Errrbody wanna be a bodybuilduh...but don't nobody wont to lift no HEAVUH ASS WEIGHT!!! (c)Ronnie Coleman. Still on the bike, but I've tapered down the miles. Hella miles on a bike plus heavy squats = burnout. New shit, I just signed up for a 5k. I know that ain't really far, but I am NOT a runner, lol. I'm 6/225...and the little enjoyment I had from running was sucked out of me courtesy of the US Army. I did a gang of research on the best shoes for heavier runners with flat feet and ended up copping these: Brooks Adrenaline 15's
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I copped some Brooks PureConnect 1's a few years ago and became so enamored with them that I bought every colorway. They're a shade narrow, but this new jawn feels like magic. Well...that's where I am. What are you doing to stave off old-manism??

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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Reffing/Softball in the summer/lifting 4x a week
Sep 28th 2016
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man, I was >< close to signing up for Tough Mudder last year
Sep 28th 2016
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haha why didn't you?
Sep 28th 2016
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I don't know, mang....some of the folk I know that do it...
Sep 28th 2016
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I did a Warrior Dash - it was cool but probably won't do another
Sep 28th 2016
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      I usually do a tough mudder once a year
Sep 28th 2016
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           i was torn on skipping one
Sep 28th 2016
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                yeah i had to skip one that was jumping to hit a bell but you land
Sep 29th 2016
108
I played softball this summer too and got a serious workout
Sep 28th 2016
94
Lifting 3x a week reverse pyramid, intermittent fasting
Sep 28th 2016
2
My heart is still beating, but the rest of me is decaying
Sep 28th 2016
3
#Bars
Sep 28th 2016
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that was deep
Sep 28th 2016
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I lost the thread on weight training in college (edit)
Sep 28th 2016
10
I think a 10K is the limit of my boredom for running
Sep 28th 2016
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Yep - same thought process, different limit
Sep 28th 2016
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Look up VPAC, might help with your back issues
Sep 28th 2016
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I appreciate the thought, but I'm not looking
Sep 28th 2016
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yoga
Sep 29th 2016
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Going to the gym 3-4 days a week and cycling heavily on Saturdays, somet...
Sep 28th 2016
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I have not tried zercher squats...researching them now. counter/questio...
Sep 28th 2016
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RE: I have not tried zercher squats...researching them now. counter/que...
Sep 28th 2016
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      yep...looking at these, there's ZERO chance...
Sep 28th 2016
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it's amazing how uncomfortable it looks to hold a heavy bar
Sep 28th 2016
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      RE: it's amazing how uncomfortable it looks to hold a heavy bar
Sep 29th 2016
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lifting 4X a week. Hoopin 6. Cutting out the booze
Sep 28th 2016
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christ, that's alot of physical activity
Sep 28th 2016
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lol..right. I thought i was doing a lot lifting 4x week and cycling 100...
Sep 28th 2016
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Sleeping plenty. I know I should eat more
Sep 28th 2016
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      You don't necessarily need to eat more than that
Sep 28th 2016
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how do you possibly lift and ball on the same day.
Sep 28th 2016
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      I lift after I play. Otherwise my shot is all fucked
Sep 28th 2016
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      ah i guess that makes sense...prps to you.
Sep 28th 2016
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      ^^^^^ wasn't part of the Breakfast Club with Jordan and Pippen
Sep 28th 2016
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anyone wear compression socks or other compression clothing?
Sep 28th 2016
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fit makes the difference...
Sep 28th 2016
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just copped some McDavid compression socks...
Sep 28th 2016
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      very nice...
Sep 28th 2016
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Compression-like underwear
Sep 28th 2016
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don't know if these fit what you're describing, but...
Sep 28th 2016
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A couple of my more rickety kiddeaux have started
Sep 28th 2016
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ha, I looked him up and he certainly does swear by them...
Sep 28th 2016
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      I asked my team's loyalist about them today
Sep 28th 2016
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The research shows no tangible diff but they can't hurt
Sep 28th 2016
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      yup...i use compression knee sleeves..i like the extra support
Sep 28th 2016
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cycling...
Sep 28th 2016
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RE: cycling...
Sep 28th 2016
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      bridge tour and orchard ride...
Sep 28th 2016
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           RE: bridge tour and orchard ride...
Sep 28th 2016
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                details...
Sep 28th 2016
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                     I don't think my bike
Sep 28th 2016
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                          nothing off-road...
Sep 29th 2016
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                               RE: nothing off-road...
Sep 29th 2016
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                                    you have a solid hybrid...
Sep 29th 2016
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Lifting 2X a week, yoga 1X a week, running 1X a week, rec league 1X a we...
Sep 28th 2016
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man, thanks for the Yoga mention...
Sep 28th 2016
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I know the feeling fam lol
Sep 28th 2016
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I'm jealous of you being able to mix it up like that
Sep 28th 2016
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Running 5 miles every other day.
Sep 28th 2016
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how did you ram up, fam? There's a very nice park around the way...
Sep 28th 2016
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      I always run more than the previous month.
Sep 28th 2016
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Core everyday, bball every Wednesday, tennis or volleyball if it's dry
Sep 28th 2016
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Yoga has kinda changed my perspective on things.
Sep 28th 2016
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We'll have to start an OKYoga club
Sep 28th 2016
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the key is to find an instructor that isn't on some pseudo-spirtual shit
Sep 28th 2016
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      Is this in Chicago?
Sep 28th 2016
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      In LA at a YMCA
Sep 28th 2016
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           of course it is. ha.
Sep 28th 2016
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           Word? Which Y is that? I go to the one downtown.
Oct 22nd 2016
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      The two instructors I usually go to are chill and normal
Sep 28th 2016
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           RE: The two instructors I usually go to are chill and normal
Sep 28th 2016
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Word
Sep 29th 2016
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trying to learn how to human flag. the plank progression is rough
Sep 28th 2016
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Strict diet + I go to the gym 6 days a week
Sep 28th 2016
39
that's dope...i'm with you on part 1, part 2 i'm working on
Sep 28th 2016
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yeah, even for me it's still a work in progress
Sep 28th 2016
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what was the impetus for going so strict?
Sep 28th 2016
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wondering this as well
Sep 28th 2016
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the gym partially, and partially learning how we've been deceived
Sep 28th 2016
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salute, man....you are SO right about the sugar thing...
Sep 28th 2016
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and you can't blame people who have been deceived since childhood
Sep 28th 2016
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all true...i be feeling bad for dudes that be in the gym for hours
Sep 28th 2016
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BRO!!! If I'm gonna get HYOOGE, I need 175 grams of carbs post-workout!...
Sep 28th 2016
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post gym, i go home and cook a big meal
Sep 28th 2016
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no red meat though?
Sep 28th 2016
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as long as you eat it in moderation, that's fine
Sep 28th 2016
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"21st century diseases"
Sep 29th 2016
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Low fat
Sep 29th 2016
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      yeah, it's always a work in progress
Sep 29th 2016
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      Welcome back, Sponge.
Sep 29th 2016
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           Thanks, man.
Sep 29th 2016
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I've gone into a modified-Atkins
Sep 28th 2016
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      man, I was watching a video on Bodybuilding.com...
Sep 28th 2016
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           If it wasn't Dom D'Agostino, look him up
Sep 28th 2016
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           thanks, I'll pull him up, now...kinda chillin at work today...
Sep 28th 2016
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           Keto
Sep 29th 2016
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                Great info
Sep 29th 2016
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                Supplements
Sep 29th 2016
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                     RE: Supplements
Sep 30th 2016
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                     RE: Supplements
Sep 30th 2016
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                     my current pre-workout...
Sep 30th 2016
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                     Follow-Ups & Clarifications
Sep 30th 2016
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                          Dosage & timing
Sep 30th 2016
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                          RE: Follow-Ups & Clarifications
Sep 30th 2016
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                right on, man...always dropping the timely knowledge...
Sep 29th 2016
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Maintaning a strict diet
Sep 28th 2016
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not clean at all
Sep 28th 2016
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I'm with you on all that except bread.
Sep 28th 2016
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      i'm not a big bread fan, BUT
Sep 28th 2016
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Just transitioned from my travel sched to non-travel sched
Sep 28th 2016
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question regarding heavy squatting...
Sep 28th 2016
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      I haven't seen anything regarding a % cut-off
Sep 28th 2016
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           thanks, great info....I guess there's a reason most squat racks...
Sep 28th 2016
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                Compounds in chucks isn't truly bad advice
Sep 28th 2016
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You've all successfully made me feel shitty, lol.
Sep 28th 2016
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Oh, you can still contribute, Laptop_Longo
Sep 28th 2016
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Crossfit 3-4 times a week. Expensive as hell, but worth it for me
Sep 28th 2016
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I just ran a half marathon on Sunday have another next month
Sep 28th 2016
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do you still bowl?
Sep 28th 2016
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      I hung em up last year. Just got too bored
Sep 28th 2016
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jiujitsu is now my life
Sep 28th 2016
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Still at Marcello's?
Sep 28th 2016
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Yep. Thanks for reminding me that place was so close
Sep 28th 2016
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      RE: Yep. Thanks for reminding me that place was so close
Sep 29th 2016
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           RE: Yep. Thanks for reminding me that place was so close
Sep 29th 2016
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ive been 80/20 Primal since 09 for the most part
Sep 28th 2016
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Boot camp class 2 days a week, and DDP Yoga
Sep 28th 2016
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i def want to do a boot camp...my wife tried it and cried for 3 days
Sep 29th 2016
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      First 2 weeks are rough for me every time I start up
Sep 29th 2016
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           thats how it was for me with insanity
Sep 29th 2016
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Looking for a good boxing glove to get started
Sep 28th 2016
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I might be in the worst shape of my life right now
Sep 28th 2016
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yoga, elliptical, weights, and walking
Sep 29th 2016
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Any low back issues during or after the elliptical sessions?
Sep 29th 2016
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Yeah, yoga is a panacea for my low and mid back
Sep 29th 2016
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RE: yoga, elliptical, weights, and walking
Sep 29th 2016
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      this is what I heard as wel....re: heart rate monitor....
Sep 29th 2016
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      yeah the Fitbit is the gateway drug
Sep 29th 2016
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C+/B- grade weight workouts mostly. Diet has been key for me
Sep 29th 2016
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I went in a Cryo Chamber today
Sep 29th 2016
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I'm in charge of open gym program once a week at work
Sep 29th 2016
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Glad to see some cyclists are in OKS!
Sep 29th 2016
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Are you in the Phoenix/Tucson area?
Sep 29th 2016
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yeah i live in phoenix
Sep 30th 2016
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nice man...I had no idea....
Sep 29th 2016
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RE: nice man...I had no idea....
Sep 30th 2016
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word...
Sep 30th 2016
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I'm trying to keep a strict-ish diet to minimize the necessary gym time ...
Sep 29th 2016
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RE: I'm trying to keep a strict-ish diet to minimize the necessary gym t...
Sep 30th 2016
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And now for something non-fitness related: a shameless plug
Oct 21st 2016
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Good shit!
Oct 22nd 2016
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Cenario
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1. "Reffing/Softball in the summer/lifting 4x a week"
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I'm gonna try to do insanity once a year(started last year and made it to around day 40 before i got sick for a week and it killed my rhythm)

Will be going trying it again in November. I also mixed in some t25 for a few months.

Do a couple of mud run/obstacle races in the summer as well. I wonder if you'd enjoy that more than a strict 5k?

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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9. "man, I was >< close to signing up for Tough Mudder last year"
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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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36. "haha why didn't you?"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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93. "I don't know, mang....some of the folk I know that do it..."
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that's ALL they do activity-wise. Mofos putting on eyeblack and wearing bandanas ans shit, lol. They go HOARD!! I'd mess around and have to body someone out there.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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91. "I did a Warrior Dash - it was cool but probably won't do another"
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There were a few spots where I had to be really careful, especially with muddy and wet shoes. Didn't enjoy those parts, I'm not trying to risk getting hurt.

  

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96. "I usually do a tough mudder once a year"
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I have no qualms skipping an obstacle. Lol

I usually skip the mud stuff too

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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97. "i was torn on skipping one"
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Had to walk over a 2x4, probably 20 feet long, and probably 15-20 feet in the air with some water underneath that I just didn't trust was deep enough if I fell. Some loose ropes on the sides to help with balance. And the 2x4 I walked on wasn't even straight, it was a little warped. I was not feeling good about that one.

But on, the other side there were slides that went into a pool of water, and that was the finish.

I had to go for it.

  

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108. "yeah i had to skip one that was jumping to hit a bell but you land"
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in a pool of water...like you i wasn't confident in the depth. i passed on it. I'll take the slide bc at least you are going in at angle.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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94. "I played softball this summer too and got a serious workout"
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Its no joke playing CF

Shit was basically high intensity sprint intervals for 2 hours

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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2. "Lifting 3x a week reverse pyramid, intermittent fasting"
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although I haven't been fasting 16 hours every day.

My back is weak as shit compared to the rest of my body, so I'm trying to catch up.

Just had a health assessment at work yesterday and my numbers were amazing, although they didn't test a body fat %. I suspect I'm around 12-15%, would love to get to 10.

  

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3. "My heart is still beating, but the rest of me is decaying"
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I kind of think I'm done. Four years ago, when I moved to DC from Nashville and started coaching, I had a good summer where I logged some comfy 50ish mile weeks and was able to keep up with the varsity runners on our cross country team all the way through October when I hurt my back. It wasn't a serious injury, but I've never been able to regain the loss of fitness since. Just 2, 3, or maybe 4 good weeks in a row before things start falling apart again.

There are other things I can do, obviously. But I hate them. Physical fitness as some kind of end in itself seems just... I want to say "dumb" here. I guess I don't want to be fat, because then I'd have to buy new clothes, and that doesn't really seem like an efficient use of my fairly limited income.

Even if I were still able to run like I wanted, I'm not sure I'm interested in the continual distance creep. Any race above 5K is incredibly boring to me. If I can't run *fast* then it doesn't seem worth the trouble. My friends have all started running marathons, which partly makes me jealous because their bodies still work but then I watch them shuffle through these 8-10 minute miles, stopping to rehydrate with a tiny bottle from one of those zany running belts. And that looks terrible. Like, if every human has a set, finite amount of miles they're going to be able to run then I'm happy that at least some of mine weren't slow. Which isn't to say that I was that fast when I was fast, just that my limits were genetic - my body was fully able to participate in the workload that I gave it.

I have whiskey. And books, and for another month, baseball. My old, gross body rotting from the inside-out really won't be a serious issue for at least a couple more years.

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--Walleye's Dad

  

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4. "#Bars"
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>I have whiskey. And books, and for another month, baseball.



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6. "that was deep"
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sorry to hear about your injury. Why do you hate weight training? Or would your back act up if you tried?

Running is hell on the body. Thankfully, it's not required to stay lean.

  

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10. "I lost the thread on weight training in college (edit)"
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I'm too old to learn to like it.

When I was in school, particularly my freshman and sophomore year, the weightroom was the fiefdom for our epically shitty football team. Just unpleasant meatheads being competitive in there because they couldn't on the actual field. Wasn't a fun place for a guy who was racing at 135 in cross country and 140-145 in track.

As a weird sidenote, our football team had what was basically a full character transplant after my sophomore year - at which point it was nigh-100% pleasant, thoughtful young men. Though they still weren't very good at actual football.

I probably could have gotten over that if I actually found my results in the weightroom (during the period where I was actually diligent with our required track regimen) more than marginal. But I didn't.

>Running is hell on the body. Thankfully, it's not required to
>stay lean.

This is no joke. I tell the kiddos I coach this all the time, that we're trying to make something fast and beautiful now but that running will almost certainly not be a lifetime pursuit for them. They either disregard me or get super bummed out.

edit: My back issues have cleared up to the point where they are only occasionally nagging. The sort of thing that keeps me from gaining enough momentum to string together good running weeks and months, but not the sort of thing that keeps me from running at all. I feel lucky it's not worse.

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18. "I think a 10K is the limit of my boredom for running"
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I've run 1-3 a year for the last couple years and I can handle the 50 minutes or so (aiming for a sub 45 on the next one) without getting too bored, but I have absolutely zero interest in anything longer like a half or full marathon.

I'm thinking though I should sign up for a 5K though to see if I can still crank one out sub 20 like one of those damn high school kids.

  

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20. "Yep - same thought process, different limit"
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It's about a time/distance where I feel like I'm competing with something (other runners, some time milestone, myself) over and against a length of time or distance where I'm just doing it for the sake of doing it. And I'll do some long-ish runs in training, but I won't race them. It's a different endeavor entirely.

And now, in spite of not knowing you personally at all, I really want that sub-20:00 milestone for you on behalf of all oldsters. Good luck if you try it.

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34. "Look up VPAC, might help with your back issues"
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Stands for voluntary pre-abdominal contraction, some excellent research on it from Texas A&M. Obviously I would teach it to you if in your vicinity but there are some decent instructions out there for self-learning (and it's relatively simple)

When you have low back pain, there's an inhibitory signal sent to your transverse abdominus muscle which is one of the primary stabilizers of your core region. When the TA isn't activating, there's greater motion into your lumbar spine resulting in increased loading and pain. Essentially VPAC is manually re-activating that TA.

As an aside because I find it supremely interesting and maybe someone else will, there are multiple examples of this type of inhibitory signaling by the body in response to pain with no explanation for why (yet). The major example is ankle pain creates an inhibitory response to your hip abductors which is why hip abductor weakness is so often seen in individuals with a history of ankle issues (weak hip abductors can lead to a multitude of other issues at the hip and down the chain into the knee or foot/ankle).

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42. "I appreciate the thought, but I'm not looking"
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I'm not interested in doing anything more to take care of my body than I did when I was twenty. I coach with somebody who's in the same field as you. She's thoughtfully offered similar suggestions for me to regain ... something. And I'm grateful for your interest and the thoughtful recommendation.

But I'm with Silenus contra Midas on embracing finitude, or beauty as holy sadness. My body was beautiful once. Now it isn't. One day, I'll be dead like every other poor asshole that's already lived. This isn't just fine. It's good.


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5. "Going to the gym 3-4 days a week and cycling heavily on Saturdays, somet..."
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My right wrist/thumb is still somewhat sore from an accident I had a month ago, so I'm somewhat limited in some of the movements involving pressing/lifting weights with my right hand. I'm just now getting back into my burpee pull-up/plank push-up body weight routine I normally do on Tuesdays; I wanted to avoid putting too much stress on my right wrist.

Out of curiosity, have you ever tried Zercher Squats? I prefer them over regular squats since the hold on the barbell is more secure than the normal grip with the regular placement of the barbell for normal squats.

Cycling around is cool and all, but it's not close to the cardio workout as the sprint routines I do on the treadmill. Sprinting on the treadmill requires me bracing my core a ton more than going around on by bike. Still a nice way to work the legs cycling around NYC though.

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8. "I have not tried zercher squats...researching them now. counter/questio..."
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have you tried intervals on the bike? Not sure what your terrain is...and if memory serves, you have a hybrid bike?? I have an area not too far from my house with wide, two lane section of road that's perfectly straight for about 3 miles. It is almost like glass with nice, clean shoulders that don't slope. Anyway, I do all-out sprint intervals there. It's absolutely soul-draining, but they've helped me out on and off the bike.

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14. "RE: I have not tried zercher squats...researching them now. counter/que..."
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>have you tried intervals on the bike? Not sure what your
>terrain is...and if memory serves, you have a hybrid bike?? I
>have an area not too far from my house with wide, two lane
>section of road that's perfectly straight for about 3 miles.
>It is almost like glass with nice, clean shoulders that don't
>slope. Anyway, I do all-out sprint intervals there. It's
>absolutely soul-draining, but they've helped me out on and off
>the bike.


I don't know how strong you currently are, but if you go the Zercher squat route, you probably won't be able to squat as heavily as you currently do with the back squats because you're holding the barbell in your forearms and the front load of the weights taxes the abs more. All in all, I prefer it more than the back squats like I said because I like actually seeing and holding the barbell more than with back squats. Ultimately though, you should do what you're most comfortable with.

In regards to cycling for intervals, I don't know too many spots in NYC where I can do that uninterrupted by other cyclists, especially on the weekend. You are correct in that I do have a hybrid bike. The only strenuous parts of my ride are when I decide to cross bridges during the weekend. Outside of one stretch in Brooklyn and riding around in Central Park, there aren't too many spots in NYC where I can cycle without interruptions without having to stop because of traffic concerns.

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28. "yep...looking at these, there's ZERO chance..."
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of me doing the numbers that I do on back squat...but that's no different that what I experience with front squats.

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86. "it's amazing how uncomfortable it looks to hold a heavy bar"
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in that position, yet it's not uncomfortable at all, at least for me. I've gone up to 405 x 5, I used to do the style where you semi sumo deadlift the bar, set it on your thighs, then squat down and scoop your arms underneath the bar, then squat up(the deadlift only on the first rep).

I always liked them, but there are some really strong people that think they are useless, compared to just back and front squatting.

  

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110. "RE: it's amazing how uncomfortable it looks to hold a heavy bar"
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>in that position, yet it's not uncomfortable at all, at least
>for me. I've gone up to 405 x 5, I used to do the style where
>you semi sumo deadlift the bar, set it on your thighs, then
>squat down and scoop your arms underneath the bar, then squat
>up(the deadlift only on the first rep).

That is quite the impressive number. The key to removing discomfort is to squeeze your hands so your forearms are fully engaged, which in turn will make the hold on the barbell more secure. I had to learn that the hard way at first since the barbell would roll around in my forearms at first and would pinch me.

>I always liked them, but there are some really strong people
>that think they are useless, compared to just back and front
>squatting.

What's their argument for it being useless? Other than holding the barbell is a pretty secure position, I like Zerchers in that you have to really engage you core during the lift.

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7. "lifting 4X a week. Hoopin 6. Cutting out the booze"
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that alcohol bloat is so real. When I was drinking it was like I was breaking even with the workouts.


Now i'm seeing some major changes to my body

  

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13. "christ, that's alot of physical activity"
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I hope you're eating like 5,000 calories/day and sleeping a ton to keep up.

  

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15. "lol..right. I thought i was doing a lot lifting 4x week and cycling 100..."
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59. "Sleeping plenty. I know I should eat more "
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I range from about 3,000 to 3500 calories a day


Suppose I could force myself to eat more but just not the kind of guy who can eat when I'm. NIt hungry

  

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79. "You don't necessarily need to eat more than that"
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depending on your weight and the nutrition in those 3500 cals. But...keep getting lots of sleep, otherwise your body is sure to break down at some point.

  

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37. "how do you possibly lift and ball on the same day."
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i tried it once...all i was doing was setting charles oakley picks.

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58. "I lift after I play. Otherwise my shot is all fucked "
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Hate trying to shoot with the arms feeling like play doh


Unless it's leg day. Then I don't mind lifting first

  

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64. "ah i guess that makes sense...prps to you."
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After i play, i don't have the energy for nada.

I tried lifting once after reffing 3 games on a 94 foot court. I looked at myself in the mirror and asked what the hell are you doing?

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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61. "^^^^^ wasn't part of the Breakfast Club with Jordan and Pippen"
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11. "anyone wear compression socks or other compression clothing?"
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Talk to me. This 5k I'm doing is on Nov. 6th...the day after my bday. It's a bday gift from my daughter...we're running together (some gift). Anyway, it's 7:15 in the morning. I'm sure it will be brisk, to say the least. I've rocked much UA cold gear, but never compression joints for health or performance benefits.

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17. "fit makes the difference..."
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..while i often ride in commuter jeans & tshirts, i always rock compression tights, socks, and shirts during lengthy cycling events (nike, champion, ua, etc).

the fit and performance of professional gear in that environment provides comfort (esp during inclement weather) that allows me to focus on the task at hand, eliminating distractions. simply put: a well-oiled machine.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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23. "just copped some McDavid compression socks..."
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should be here any day. Just to get my feet wet (no pun) in the compression garment game.

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85. "very nice..."
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..i know a few people that wear their padded compression gear with rave reviews (esp for endurance rides).


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21. "Compression-like underwear"
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It's pretty much tighter compression-like boxer briefs that I've noticed most of the underwear brands have been selling as of late. Make a huge difference when I'm doing my sprint intervals on the treadmill because with normal underwear my junk for lack of better words would bunch up and that would be a major annoyance. Not an issue with the compression-like boxer briefs I'm referring to.

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26. "don't know if these fit what you're describing, but..."
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these are pretty much all I wear now.
http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=56501806

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31. "A couple of my more rickety kiddeaux have started"
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Results are still preliminary, but the kid who seems to be most into them has suffered from a lot of calf and shin issues and he seems to like them. Dude grew (literally) four inches this summer so he's dealing with an entirely new body. Anything that makes him feel comfortable has to be worth something.

Though I'm legitimately scared by the pricetag on some of them. Fifty dollars seems like a ton of money for something which seems to be scientifically ambiguous.

Chris Solinsky also swore by them, and he must be easily the biggest dude to ever run under 13:00. That's a solid endorsement as far as I'm concerned.

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101. "ha, I looked him up and he certainly does swear by them..."
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found a bunch of material to read in the process. Thanks.

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102. "I asked my team's loyalist about them today"
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He's a fan so far. So there are your endorsements. Two-time American record holder (at 5,000 and 10,000m) and a 15 year old named Neil who has yet to run under 21:00 but ripped through an entirely adequate 6x1000m workout (3:00 rest, 400m hard tag) this afternoon and has been relatively pain free below his knees for the first time all season.

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33. "The research shows no tangible diff but they can't hurt"
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Compression sleeves have certainly been found to be helpful with bed-ridden patients to reduce DVT (blood clot) risk, but nothing tangible for the performance/active demographics. That being said, I have a pair and they certainly feel good which is another input to your body and that comfort can be very important in the mental aspect of activity.

The one caveat I give is to avoid wearing them during squatting or lower body work because they will limit your range of motion and most dudes already have some severe limits in that regard.

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40. "yup...i use compression knee sleeves..i like the extra support"
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>The one caveat I give is to avoid wearing them during squatting or lower body work because they will limit your range of motion and most dudes already have some severe limits in that regard.

i sprained my mcl about 2 years ago skiing...still feel it every now and then. When i was doing insanity i used the knee sleeves for jumps and the like and rolled them down for all the squats and other leg exercises lol. Quite annoying but i feel the different without it in the jumps.

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12. "cycling..."
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..while i still hit the court/gym/bags/ring/mat when i can, cycling has become my daily workout (beyond my commute). i'm enjoying this evolution.

happy to have my bike back on the road (with a few upgrades), and i'm excited about completing my next build this winter (debuting next spring).

in the meantime, i'm prepping for my crew's pancake ride (6 bridges) and the annual orchard harvest ride upstate.




*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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24. "RE: cycling..."
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>in the meantime, i'm prepping for my crew's pancake ride (6
>bridges) and the annual orchard harvest ride upstate.

What bridges are involved and how long is this Orchard Harvest Ride? I'm curious what routes you take that are safe for bike travel all the way from NYC to upstate NY.

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35. "bridge tour and orchard ride..."
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>What bridges are involved and how long is this Orchard Harvest
>Ride? I'm curious what routes you take that are safe for bike
>travel all the way from NYC to upstate NY.

the bridge tour is a bit challenging and includes the brooklyn (ugh), manhattan, williamsburgh, palaski, 59th street, & gw bridges with a food & drink @ one of the best pancake spots in the tri-state area.

the orchard harvest ride is a 30 mile (round trip) trek. we take the metro north to poughkeepsie and then bike to dressel farms in new paltz.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

*skatin' the rings of saturn*


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80. "RE: bridge tour and orchard ride..."
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>>What bridges are involved and how long is this Orchard
>Harvest
>>Ride? I'm curious what routes you take that are safe for
>bike
>>travel all the way from NYC to upstate NY.
>
>the bridge tour is a bit challenging and includes the brooklyn
>(ugh), manhattan, williamsburgh, palaski, 59th street, & gw
>bridges with a food & drink @ one of the best pancake spots in
>the tri-state area.

That bridge tour sounds harder than the Orchard Harvest trip. So this tour is all done within 24 hours?

>the orchard harvest ride is a 30 mile (round trip) trek. we
>take the metro north to poughkeepsie and then bike to dressel
>farms in new paltz.

This is something I'm personally interested in since I make weekly trips to the local Farmer's Markets on Saturdays for apples. Do you have a website I can look at for more info? Would be nice to bike in much more peaceful environments compared to the crazy NYC streets; that is assuming upstate NY is more bike friendly than NYC.

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92. "details..."
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>>>What bridges are involved and how long is this Orchard
>>Harvest
>>>Ride? I'm curious what routes you take that are safe for
>>bike
>>>travel all the way from NYC to upstate NY.
>>
>>the bridge tour is a bit challenging and includes the
>brooklyn
>>(ugh), manhattan, williamsburgh, palaski, 59th street, & gw
>>bridges with a food & drink @ one of the best pancake spots
>in
>>the tri-state area.
>
>That bridge tour sounds harder than the Orchard Harvest trip.
>So this tour is all done within 24 hours?

the bridge tour certainly isn't for the faint of heart lol. its equal parts urban/city/suburban and a bit grueling on a few of the climbs (esp in washington heights), but that's the point of that particular group ride. usually 10a-6p for the entire ride, including food, 57 miles (round trip). still, we've had a few rookies (young and old) complete the route. the winding down-hill curves of NJ are fun and the food is the ultimate payoff.

>>the orchard harvest ride is a 30 mile (round trip) trek. we
>>take the metro north to poughkeepsie and then bike to
>dressel
>>farms in new paltz.
>
>This is something I'm personally interested in since I make
>weekly trips to the local Farmer's Markets on Saturdays for
>apples. Do you have a website I can look at for more info?
>Would be nice to bike in much more peaceful environments
>compared to the crazy NYC streets; that is assuming upstate NY
>is more bike friendly than NYC.

the annual harvest ride is truly a beautiful adventure. the metro north train ride to poughkeepsie is picturesque, and the route (including the 'walkway over the hudson') is absolutely breath-taking. its the very definition of autumn in the northeast. admittedly, its just as challenging as the bridge tour and intended for vets (mostly because of the rolling hills of new paltz and the fact that its mostly rural without bike lanes). its an all-day affair that starts @ 8am, and we don't return to grand central until 8pm (or later).

you can see pics from previous rides here:

https://www.instagram.com/p/-mE76-Qh-R/?taken-by=brooklynbikecrew
https://www.instagram.com/p/-hnn1QQh0C/?taken-by=brooklynbikecrew

we typically ride on saturday mornings and wednesday evenings. hit my inbox if your serious about joining a group ride.


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100. "I don't think my bike"
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can handle that upstate terrain if I'm reading what you type correctly; sounds as if some of the terrain is off-road and not the normal concrete pavement of NYC. I dunno if my hybrid bike can handle off-road cycling. Thanks for the info though.

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115. "nothing off-road..."
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..not sure if you peeped the 2 photos i included in reply #92, but i'm on a road bike (fixie).

most of the bikes in our crew are road/track bikes (fixie and gears), with a few hybrids in the mix. the entire route is on pavement, but its a balanced mix of city streets and rural truck routes with little-to-no shoulder (hence, the emphasis on experienced vets). its a group ride for people that are comfortable riding in city AND rural traffic.

*btw: a hybrid should be the best of both worlds (on & off road). what make/model do you have?


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


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123. "RE: nothing off-road..."
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>..not sure if you peeped the 2 photos i included in reply
>#92, but i'm on a road bike (fixie).
>
>most of the bikes in our crew are road/track bikes (fixie and
>gears), with a few hybrids in the mix. the entire route is on
>pavement, but its a balanced mix of city streets and rural
>truck routes with little-to-no shoulder (hence, the emphasis
>on experienced vets). its a group ride for people that are
>comfortable riding in city AND rural traffic.
>
>*btw: a hybrid should be the best of both worlds (on & off
>road). what make/model do you have?

I'm at work, so I can't go too nuts trying to find pictures, but I have a Giant Escape or Escape 2 bike. I forget the year, but it's either the 2015 or 2016 model.

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134. "you have a solid hybrid..."
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..pretty much a cruiser/road bike. solid response & handling, but certainly not made for traveling off road.

*please note: initially, i thought you were referring to a road/mountain hybrid lol.

still, your make/model is solid and perfectly capable of handling the mean streets of nyc, as well as its surrounding suburbs.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


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16. "Lifting 2X a week, yoga 1X a week, running 1X a week, rec league 1X a we..."
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I usually throw in an extra run or an interval workout at home on one of the other days too.

I'm 31 now and I feel as fast as I did in college and with better endurance too. I can especially tell the difference in the rec leagues I play in (I usually alternate between basketball and ultimate frisbee rec leagues), I have a burst recently that I haven't had in a few years. I think the extra work on the squat rack at the gym has really been helping... even if I'm still a skinny MF.

I also signed up for a 10K on Thanksgiving and am aiming for a sub 45 minute time, going to have to start doing some more longer runs for that one again. And I love the yoga lol... it's not even about the attractive clientele, it's a goddamn calming hour and a way tougher workout (and completely different one from the other one's I usually do) than I ever expected.

  

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19. "man, thanks for the Yoga mention..."
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I was on it pretty heavy several years ago. It was the hot yoga (J Stew is gonna kill me, lol). I'm no expert but I really enjoyed it. At first I was a little...embarrassed, I guess, because you're in a room with hella women and a few guys...with just shorts on. Most of they guys were older and fair to shitty bodies and there I was big as fuck doing yoga. After a few visits, though, I was in love with it. Of course, life happened and I stopped going. Need to get back.

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25. "I know the feeling fam lol"
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There's one jacked black dude who comes to some of the same classes I do and we usually give each other a nod of acknowledgement like "I got you, bro" (I'm a brown skinned not quite as jacked Asian)... and the rest of the class is a couple random white dudes and the MILFs and 20 year old hippie dippie chicks of Silverlake and Hollywood. But I like it cause I can turn my brain off and relax while still getting a tough workout... and then some tiny girl completely schools Broad Shoulders Me on doing a Crow pose or handstand (let alone a Side Crow I don't even try that shit).

I guarantee I am the best basketball player in that class though!

  

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22. "I'm jealous of you being able to mix it up like that"
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I realize I just above said I had no interest in that, but it seems like a really helpful way to stay engaged. So mostly, I'd love to be able to enjoy doing that. Well done.

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27. "Running 5 miles every other day."
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Back in January I was running like a mile, maybe a mile and a half and getting exhausted. Now I'm doing 5 miles trying to push 6 and running every other day. Running as a whole just feels really good. I feel like it's helping me work my core without having to do sit ups (which I hate).

Lifting twice a week. Should probably do more.
I need more variation in exercises in my chest in arms.
Looking for suggestions.
Currently just doing a bench press and bicep curls.
I don't have any free weights unfortunately.

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30. "how did you ram up, fam? There's a very nice park around the way..."
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that situates around a lake. The whole course is 3.7 miles, so I figure if I work up to running that, I'll body the 3.1. How did you work your way up? Run/walk and gradually increase the ratio?

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66. "I always run more than the previous month."
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I ran 51 miles in September. Gotta do more than that in October.
Not all that scientific, but it's working.

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29. "Core everyday, bball every Wednesday, tennis or volleyball if it's dry"
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32. "Yoga has kinda changed my perspective on things."
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Been lifting 4 days a week and running 5 or 6 days (1-2 miles/day) a week for the past like 10 years. And it's been more for therapy and maintaining a healthy weight than about seeing gains or whatever.

Started doing yoga about two years ago in hopes of helping lower back issues. And not only did it help the back, but it has helped in basically every health related area.

Incredible core workout - check
Proper stretching/preventing future injury/helping lower back issues - check
Sweating out toxins - check
Calming an overactive Westernized mind - check

I only go to class once a week, but the affects of that class stay with me for days after.

I still lift and run, but mixing in the yoga has had serious benefits. I suggest that everyone give it a try at least once.

  

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45. "We'll have to start an OKYoga club"
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I don't totally buy into the hippie dippie side but I definitely have noticed the mental benefits as well... I've felt more relaxed creatively and at work since I've started going regularly. Sometimes I'll just go through a breathing exercise when I need a reset in the day and having an hour a week where I turn my brain almost completely off is a good reminder to take things in esp. considering I pull double duty with my brain "on" all the time at both my regular day job and as a musician.

I swear though if I get a damn side crow down I'm gonna spike a yoga block on these tiny women like I just scored a touchdown.

  

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51. "the key is to find an instructor that isn't on some pseudo-spirtual shit"
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Last class I went to the teach was playing Blu and Exile, Badu, and Phantogram. It was awesome.

The regular instructor I deal with is just a normal, unpretentious human being. I would have issues going to a class if it was otherwise.

>I don't totally buy into the hippie dippie side but I
>definitely have noticed the mental benefits as well... I've
>felt more relaxed creatively and at work since I've started
>going regularly.

YEP.

>I swear though if I get a damn side crow down I'm gonna spike
>a yoga block on these tiny women like I just scored a
>touchdown.

lol

  

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63. "Is this in Chicago?"
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>Last class I went to the teach was playing Blu and Exile,
>Badu, and Phantogram. It was awesome.

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74. "In LA at a YMCA"
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75. "of course it is. ha."
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150. "Word? Which Y is that? I go to the one downtown. "
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89. "The two instructors I usually go to are chill and normal"
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They'll definitely talk about opening up the spirit and shit but they don't spend an hour rambling on about various chakras. Also that studio had a Prince tribute night that I went to after he passed so I'm OK with their music selections.

The convos I overhear leave class though always amuse me though, it's usually girls talking about spirituality and vegan restaurants and I'm leaving thinking about rap albums and how that McD's across the street looks pretty good (I'm no justin_scott down the thread with the crazy diet but I usually eat pretty healthy 5-6 days a week... fast food once a week is my absolute vice tho).

  

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98. "RE: The two instructors I usually go to are chill and normal"
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I always bounce quickly after class because I dread those same conversations. Not trying to hear that shit.

>The convos I overhear leave class though always amuse me
>though, it's usually girls talking about spirituality and
>vegan restaurants and I'm leaving thinking about rap albums
>and how that McD's across the street looks pretty good (I'm no
>justin_scott down the thread with the crazy diet but I usually
>eat pretty healthy 5-6 days a week... fast food once a week is
>my absolute vice tho).

I'm the same way. Keep it regulated during the week. Weekends are open game.

  

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107. "Word"
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38. "trying to learn how to human flag. the plank progression is rough"
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im just going solely on what these youtube monkey bar dudes say to do tho so there's probably an easier way.

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39. "Strict diet + I go to the gym 6 days a week"
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No soda, fruit juices, gatorade, etc. I drink a gallon of water daily, plus a little milk or sugarless soy milk for my protein shake, coconut water once in a while (if i'm in the sun and need electrolytes), and a little alcohol (no chaser).

No red meat, no pork, no bread, no ketchup, no candy/chips/ice cream/etc. I stopped eating peanut butter. i switched from regular salt to himalayan pink salt crystals. i eat fruit, instead of drinking it, several times a day, added more vegetables to my diet. I eat mostly extra lean turkey (1% fat) and fish (yellowfin, tuna, trout, salmon), and chicken. I eat one cup of plain chobani yogurt a day.

Never felt better.


I've been going to the gym 6 days a week for just over 3 months. about an hour and a half a day. each day i work a different set of muscles. yesterday was biceps/triceps/shoulders. today is ab day. tomorrow is chest day, etc. I hired a personal trainer before doing this to show me all the correct techniques, and have done my own research as well.

I get at least 7-8 hours of sleep every night.

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41. "that's dope...i'm with you on part 1, part 2 i'm working on"
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>No soda, fruit juices, gatorade, etc. I drink a gallon of water daily, plus a little milk or sugarless soy milk for my protein shake, coconut water once in a while (if i'm in the sun and need electrolytes), and a little alcohol (no chaser).

No red meat, no pork, no bread, no ketchup, no candy/chips/ice cream/etc. I stopped eating peanut butter. i switched from regular salt to himalayan pink salt crystals. i eat fruit, instead of drinking it, several times a day, added more vegetables to my diet. I eat mostly extra lean turkey (1% fat) and fish (yellowfin, tuna, trout, salmon), and chicken. I eat one cup of plain chobani yogurt a day.

Cutting out those sugary drinks were hard at first, now i don't miss it(its been about a year)

I'm working on the diet though, 1 step at a time. I've cut out most fast food and processed food and replaced sugary snacks with fruit. Although my favorite fruits are seasonal melons so i'm gonna hvave to figure something out in the winter

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44. "yeah, even for me it's still a work in progress"
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i keep trying to add more and more veggies, and just learn more as well.

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43. "what was the impetus for going so strict?"
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Besides the salmon, where do you get your fats from...and do you shoot for a particular macro breakdown? I've gone pretty hard on Paleo a few times...but never ultra strict. I've been reading on keto dieting lately and I'm warming up to it, the more I study.

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47. "wondering this as well"
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>Besides the salmon, where do you get your fats from

  

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49. "the gym partially, and partially learning how we've been deceived"
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the sugar industry is very similar to the cigarette industry. learning how they get us addicted to sugar (they put sugar in baby formula, advertise with cartoon characters, etc etc), and really, simply learning that sugar IS more addictive than cocaine and heroin, changed how i viewed most of the food i was eating. i look at so much of it as a toxin to my body.

when i was born, there were ZERO cases of adolescent diabetes. in fact, it was called adult onset diabetes. today, there are roughly 58,000 cases of adolescent diabetes. when i was born, 1 in 40 americans were diabetic. today, it's 1 in 11. Twenty five years from now, it will be 1 in 3. sugar, and processed foods are slowly killing us.

when i first got in the gym, my diet wasn't this strict at all. but i learned how eating right is just as important to bodybuilding as correct techniques. i started seeing vast improvement in my work outs, and that mentally focused me to eat better because i really wanted to eventually get stronger, but i also wanted to avoid health problems as i get closer to my 40's-50's-60's.

i never cooked a day in my life before the last 3 months. now, i cook everyday. i know exactly what's in my food, and i've come to enjoy cooking. for me, the important thing is protein. my diet is pretty low on fat, but very high on protein.

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53. "salute, man....you are SO right about the sugar thing..."
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my dad is a 70 year old diabetic...who has to take check his blood sugar before every meal and is on insulin...yet, I'll come to his house and find a 12 pack of Mountain Dew under his bed. Shit hurts my heart because I don't want to lose my Pops, but he is resigned on "I ain't cutting out everything. I'm gonna have something I like". Fuck can I say to that? I've literally gone in his fridge and taken ice cream with me when I left. He just gets more. smh.

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56. "and you can't blame people who have been deceived since childhood"
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i tell people, enjoy food. that's so important, but enjoy better food. i know from experience that it's hard, but your taste buds will learn to enjoy fruit more than sugary snacks. eating fruit also fills you up, so you'll have less cravings to eat something in general. heck, a plate of salmon with asparagus tastes FAARRR better to me than a bag of chips.

drinking water was the toughest part. i was one of those "there's water in soda" idiots. at first, water with every meal was bland, but a week in, i realized i was actually enjoying it. now, i don't even think about anything but having a glass of cold water.

and this isn't even mentioning how much better it is on our teeth.

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62. "all true...i be feeling bad for dudes that be in the gym for hours"
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lifting and doing heavy ab work and then downing a sugary protein shake.

Now they replace the sugar with all these sugar alcohol. People won't put splenda in coffee but they'll have it in their zero sugar drinks not realizing its under a different name smh.

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67. "BRO!!! If I'm gonna get HYOOGE, I need 175 grams of carbs post-workout!..."
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69. "post gym, i go home and cook a big meal"
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and man, the difference it makes is incredible. plus the fact that i now get 8 hours sleep almost every night. granted, it still takes time to get bigger, but i see and feel the results. i was in the gym a few times earlier in my life, but never ate/slept right, and i gave up every time, because i was doing everything wrong.

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78. "no red meat though?"
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That's not a life worth living!

  

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87. "as long as you eat it in moderation, that's fine"
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but it's not really good for us, and i honestly prefer fish, turkey, and chicken, so it was easy for me.

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124. ""21st century diseases""
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>when i was born, there were ZERO cases of adolescent diabetes.
>in fact, it was called adult onset diabetes. today, there are
>roughly 58,000 cases of adolescent diabetes. when i was born,
>1 in 40 americans were diabetic. today, it's 1 in 11. Twenty
>five years from now, it will be 1 in 3. sugar, and processed
>foods are slowly killing us.

Diabetes, obesity, allergies, asthma, food intolerance, inflammatory conditions (acne, arthritis, etc.), autism, etc. are 21st century diseases. More important than excessive sugar intake is the correlative displacement of fermentable fiber in humans' diets in modernized countries. That fiber that humans can't digest but our gut bacteria can/do is a crucial component to health. Without that fiber, our gut bacteria community changes leading to whole body changes (gut bacteria directly impact our nervous system/brain, immune system, damn near everything it seems).

What's frightening is the foundation for these 21st century diseases have been laid unknowingly in babies/children.

There are life-changing books on this subject that I've read in the past year and a half.

  

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125. "Low fat"
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>my diet is pretty low on fat, but very high on protein.

In the future, if you ever notice changes that seem to be related to low testosterone (lower energy, decreased athletic performance, lower libido), I recommend tracking your dietary fat intake. Too little dietary fat, can impair testosterone levels; thus, affecting exercise performance and lean body mass. Shoot for at least 20-30% of daily calories from fat.

Moreover, fat is needed to transport Vitamins D, K, A, and E; produce chemical messengers (egs., hormones and prostaglandins); etc.

  

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126. "yeah, it's always a work in progress"
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i'm constantly learning more, and trying to get everything better. i definitely don't want my daily intake to be too low on fat.

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128. "Welcome back, Sponge."
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Feels like it's been a while since I've see your screen name on these message boards. Perhaps I'm wrong in my observation in regards to your absence though.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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130. "Thanks, man."
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Yea, I rarely post nowadays. This might be my first post in Sports this year.

  

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52. "I've gone into a modified-Atkins "
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Macros are somewhere around 65% fat, 35% protein, and 10% carbs. In addition to a lot of the current research coming out on the benefits of a keto and low carb principled diet, I have some sort of intolerance to carbs and fructose which was my impetus for changing. Along with a proper fiber intake, it has significantly alleviated my GI issues.

If you do change, definitely make sure to get a before and after blood array because there is a proportion of the population (estimates are around 25%) who does not react well to a keto diet.

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54. "man, I was watching a video on Bodybuilding.com..."
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regarding becoming keto-adapted. Dude was recommending 75/20/5 macro ratio. I get it...it just feels so counter-productive to me as a bodybuilding aficionado for all these years...to be getting like 300 grams of fats per day, lol.

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57. "If it wasn't Dom D'Agostino, look him up"
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I'm not one to follow fads or gurus, but need some salient reasons. He's a molecular pharmocology and physiology researcher at the USF college of medicine, one of the leading researcher on ketogenic diets (his original research focused on the potential impact of ketogenic diets with siezures and metabolic disorders, recently he has been looking into it on a more general level) and also a big lifter.

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60. "thanks, I'll pull him up, now...kinda chillin at work today..."
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here's the one I was watching that I mentioned:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/videos/watch/ketogenic_diet_explained_expert_panel

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129. "Keto"
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>regarding becoming keto-adapted. Dude was recommending
>75/20/5 macro ratio. I get it...it just feels so
>counter-productive to me as a bodybuilding aficionado for all
>these years...to be getting like 300 grams of fats per day,
>lol.

I didn't get to peep that video link you posted, and I'm very likely to be saying stuff that was brought up there:

Protein intake is better based on body weight (or lean body mass) than on macro %. Macro ratio might result in too low of a protein intake. Keto researchers have noted a loss of lean mass with protein intakes lower than 1.5 g/kg daily (0.68 g/lb). I believe that ISSN's official stance on protein is still at least 0.80 g/lb (1.76 g/kg)with at least maintenance calories to preserve lean mass in athletes. Lyle McDonald, who wrote the keto for athletes bible, recommends higher.

Even after adaptation, the brain will at most use ~75% of its daily energy requirements from ketones. The rest gotta come from glucose. The body can convert protein to glucose when carb intake is really low. To make 1 g of glucose, the body needs 1.6 grams amino acids. The brain needs about 110 to 120 g glucose daily and that can be synthesized from 160 to 200 g protein.

Ketones seem to be adequate for aerobic activities after 2 to 4 weeks of adaptation. That doesn't seem to be the case for anaerobic and higher intensity stuff (egs. weightlifting, sprinting). In ketosis, since glycogen is low, the body would turn to amino acids to provide ATP in anaerobic conditions. I, personally, don't like the idea of using AAs for that purpose lol.

Rather than an everyday keto diet, one can do a targeted keto diet (some carbs only pre- and/or post-workout) or a cyclical keto diet (depletion, carb load, repeat) to help with decreased anaerobic performance on an everyday protocol.

High fiber (fruits and veggies) are vital to good health (not just for regularity) which is why I'd only do targeted or cyclical keto if I ever do keto again.

  

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132. "Great info"
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Not completely versed in molecular nutrition so great to have you as a resource. Could I get your most streamlined recs for supplements...so much info out there on AA's and BCAA's, timing, stacks, etc etc

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136. "Supplements"
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>great to have you as a resource.

Likewise.


>Could I get your most streamlined recs for
>supplements...so much info out there on AA's and BCAA's,
>timing, stacks, etc etc

If one considers protein powder and carb powder supplements, I'd put 'em in Category 1. Go with whole protein powder over BCAA/EAA powders. In the context of isolated BCAA powders, the 3 BCAAs compete for the same transporter. As a result, not enough leucine, the essential BCAA for muscular protein synthesis, may be absorbed. Whey protein doesn't have the competitive uptake problem for some reason. Also, the other amino acids in whole protein can sequester ammonia. Isolated BCAAs don't have other aminos to do so, thereby fatigue possibly resulting from ammonia buildup. Better bang for your buck, too, with whey protein. Whey is cheaper per BCAA gram and leucine gram than vast majority if not all commercial BCAA powders.


Off the top:

Category 1 (near must-haves)
1. Creatine

2. Vitamin K2 MK7
The standard American diet is low in Vit K2 Menaquinone-7. It's essential for Vit D's role in testosterone production. Throw in magnesium and zinc as well if you're not getting enough from your diet. Plus, we lose M and Z in our sweat. MK7 supplement should say where it's from like natto. Otherwise, increase your consumption of grass-fed butter/milk, brie, organ meats, natto (okay, maybe not natto), etc. MK7 explains the French Paradox/Calcium Paradox.

3. Caffeine
For infrequent users, but not worth the possible withdrawal headaches after tolerance development.


Category 2 (may move up to Cat 1 depending on future research)
1. Beta-alanine
A precursor for carnosine which buffers acid changes in muscles. Supplemental carnosine is ineffective somehow. It's only helpful for glycolytic exercise ("sets that burn") that last at least ~30 seconds; especially helpful for intense sets that range from 1 to 4 minutes.

2. Nitrate
The body of evidence that supports its use as an ergogenic aid is growing, particularly for anaerobic exercise for everyone (untrained to highly trained). The results are mixed for aerobic trainees, but when it does help, it's good for untrained and recreational subjects. Besides blood flow via nitric oxide, nitrate seems to decrease the amount of ATP, creatine, and oxygen needed for force production. Contractile force might be enhanced as well because of the observed increased calcium concentration in muscles. The protocols were mostly 2 hours pre-workout with a few studies doing ~30 minutes or 2+ hours beforehand. Take 300 to 600 mg of nitrate. I only know of Noxygen (Purus Labs) and Beta Nitro (SNI). Otherwise, 1 pound of veggies high in nitrates would give about 500 mg nitrate. Some studies used 5 to 16 oz of standard (not nitrate-concentrated) beet root juice.


Category 3 (keep an eye on these; needs more evidence)
1. Citrulline malate
Not much research data yet, but seems to help with high volume anaerobic exercise (eg. 5 sets to failure). Seems to help with creatine concentration and prevention of ammonia buildup. Also increases nitric oxide but via arginine and not the nitrate pathway. Supplemental arginine has poor absorption. The kidneys convert citrulline to arginine; arginine to nitric oxide. Additionally, citrulline boosts ornithine which sequesters and eliminates ammonia.

2. HMB
A metabolite of the BCAA leucine. But only 5% or less of leucine gets turned into HMB. So it's impossible to match HMB supplementation from whey powder and food. My calculations say 3 g of HMB (a couple of HMB capsules) is obtained from 429 grams of protein from whey (18 scoops). HMB was first marketed in the early 2000s (late 90s?) as a muscle builder. Then, the past few years, it was pretty much determined to be anti-catabolic for at risk populations (egs. elderly, sick, injured). But 3 recent studies have seemed to reveal HMB as a muscle builder. One recent one had HMB-free acid (different from HMB-calcium salt) and an ATP product (both from MuscleTech) resulting in more lean mass gain than a previous study that used 600 mg testosterone per week! A preceding study had a gain of 15 pounds of lean mass in 12 weeks with HMB-FA. Like any studies, there were limitations. And most importantly, they need to be replicated. Right now, oral and injectable steroids are cheaper than the HMB & ATP stack lol.

Category 4 (worth trying)
1. Sodium Bicarbonate (baking soda)
Yep, baking soda. Like beta-alanine, it works for exercise compromised by acidosis, but through a different mechanism. However, the protocol for this is too fussy for me to remember. It's gotta be sipped in certain amounts in intervals or you'll get diarrhea.

  

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139. "RE: Supplements"
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>Category 1 (near must-haves)
>1. Creatine

any strong opinions about which kind of creatine is better?

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143. "RE: Supplements"
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>>Category 1 (near must-haves)
>>1. Creatine
>
>any strong opinions about which kind of creatine is better?

Monohydrate is still the best. If you've had GI distress, try micronized monohydrate. Also taking with food can improve absorption.

>Good to see ya, man.

Likewise, man. I lurk.

  

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140. "my current pre-workout..."
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contains Creatine in monohydrate form, Citulline Malate, Betaine Anyhydrous and L-Carnitine. There are a few others, but those are the "heavy hitters". What it doesn't contain is any stimulants...which is a departure for me as I've always been a heavy stim guy.

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141. "Follow-Ups & Clarifications"
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>If one considers protein powder and carb powder supplements,
>I'd put 'em in Category 1.

When you say carb powder supplements...are you referring to dextrose, maldextrose, etc? Also, what is the optimal protocol in terms of protein:carb ratio in a workout shake, and what is optimal timing? I've been trying to find some kind of research consensus on this topic for years but haven't been able to...assuming you probably have.

>Go with whole protein powder over
>BCAA/EAA powders. In the context of isolated BCAA powders, the
>3 BCAAs compete for the same transporter. As a result, not
>enough leucine, the essential BCAA for muscular protein
>synthesis, may be absorbed. Whey protein doesn't have the
>competitive uptake problem for some reason. Also, the other
>amino acids in whole protein can sequester ammonia. Isolated
>BCAAs don't have other aminos to do so, thereby fatigue
>possibly resulting from ammonia buildup. Better bang for your
>buck, too, with whey protein. Whey is cheaper per BCAA gram
>and leucine gram than vast majority if not all commercial BCAA
>powders.

So essentially because leucine, isoleucine and valine all compete for the same transporter and leucine is the essential for protein synthesis, leucine is the key. Additionally, the per gram cost of leucine is far better with whey so utilize a whey protein for leucine.

Two follow-ups here: What is the minimally effective dose for leucine and what is the optimal timing of said dosage.


>Off the top:
>
>Category 1 (near must-haves)
>1. Creatine

What is optimal protocol (dose, timing, etc)

>2. Vitamin K2 MK7
>The standard American diet is low in Vit K2 Menaquinone-7.
>It's essential for Vit D's role in testosterone production.
>Throw in magnesium and zinc as well if you're not getting
>enough from your diet. Plus, we lose M and Z in our sweat. MK7
>supplement should say where it's from like natto. Otherwise,
>increase your consumption of grass-fed butter/milk, brie,
>organ meats, natto (okay, maybe not natto), etc. MK7 explains
>the French Paradox/Calcium Paradox.

Gotcha. I have about 2 servings of grass-fed butter each day but assuming that's not enough to meet the requirement.

>3. Caffeine
>For infrequent users, but not worth the possible withdrawal
>headaches after tolerance development.

I utilize a 100mg pill dose for pre-workout which works very well for me. In general, I'll have an 8oz cup of coffee + MCTs + grass-fed butter in the morning and at lunch.

>Category 2 (may move up to Cat 1 depending on future
>research)
>1. Beta-alanine
>A precursor for carnosine which buffers acid changes in
>muscles. Supplemental carnosine is ineffective somehow. It's
>only helpful for glycolytic exercise ("sets that burn") that
>last at least ~30 seconds; especially helpful for intense sets
>that range from 1 to 4 minutes.

You may sense a trend here lol...protocol (dose, timing, etc)?

>2. Nitrate
>The body of evidence that supports its use as an ergogenic aid
>is growing, particularly for anaerobic exercise for everyone
>(untrained to highly trained). The results are mixed for
>aerobic trainees, but when it does help, it's good for
>untrained and recreational subjects. Besides blood flow via
>nitric oxide, nitrate seems to decrease the amount of ATP,
>creatine, and oxygen needed for force production. Contractile
>force might be enhanced as well because of the observed
>increased calcium concentration in muscles. The protocols were
>mostly 2 hours pre-workout with a few studies doing ~30
>minutes or 2+ hours beforehand. Take 300 to 600 mg of nitrate.
>I only know of Noxygen (Purus Labs) and Beta Nitro (SNI).
>Otherwise, 1 pound of veggies high in nitrates would give
>about 500 mg nitrate. Some studies used 5 to 16 oz of standard
>(not nitrate-concentrated) beet root juice.

So it sounds like 300 to 600 mg of nitrate, 2 hours before the workout.

>
>Category 3 (keep an eye on these; needs more evidence)
>1. Citrulline malate
>Not much research data yet, but seems to help with high volume
>anaerobic exercise (eg. 5 sets to failure). Seems to help with
>creatine concentration and prevention of ammonia buildup. Also
>increases nitric oxide but via arginine and not the nitrate
>pathway. Supplemental arginine has poor absorption. The
>kidneys convert citrulline to arginine; arginine to nitric
>oxide. Additionally, citrulline boosts ornithine which
>sequesters and eliminates ammonia.
>
>2. HMB
>A metabolite of the BCAA leucine. But only 5% or less of
>leucine gets turned into HMB. So it's impossible to match HMB
>supplementation from whey powder and food. My calculations say
>3 g of HMB (a couple of HMB capsules) is obtained from 429
>grams of protein from whey (18 scoops). HMB was first marketed
>in the early 2000s (late 90s?) as a muscle builder. Then, the
>past few years, it was pretty much determined to be
>anti-catabolic for at risk populations (egs. elderly, sick,
>injured). But 3 recent studies have seemed to reveal HMB as a
>muscle builder. One recent one had HMB-free acid (different
>from HMB-calcium salt) and an ATP product (both from
>MuscleTech) resulting in more lean mass gain than a previous
>study that used 600 mg testosterone per week! A preceding
>study had a gain of 15 pounds of lean mass in 12 weeks with
>HMB-FA. Like any studies, there were limitations. And most
>importantly, they need to be replicated. Right now, oral and
>injectable steroids are cheaper than the HMB & ATP stack lol.
>
>Category 4 (worth trying)
>1. Sodium Bicarbonate (baking soda)
>Yep, baking soda. Like beta-alanine, it works for exercise
>compromised by acidosis, but through a different mechanism.
>However, the protocol for this is too fussy for me to
>remember. It's gotta be sipped in certain amounts in intervals
>or you'll get diarrhea.

Will keep an eye on those.

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144. "Dosage & timing"
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>When you say carb powder supplements...are you referring to
>dextrose, maldextrose, etc?

Yep. A little sucrose will enhance the mix. You'll maximize uptake b/c of transporters. The liver prefers fructose. Liver glycogen status is crucial.

>Also, what is the optimal
>protocol in terms of protein:carb ratio in a workout shake,
>and what is optimal timing? I've been trying to find some
>kind of research consensus on this topic for years but haven't
>been able to...assuming you probably have.

You will love this paper:

https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1550-2783-10-5


>So essentially because leucine, isoleucine and valine all
>compete for the same transporter and leucine is the essential
>for protein synthesis, leucine is the key. Additionally, the
>per gram cost of leucine is far better with whey so utilize a
>whey protein for leucine.

Yes. 6g leucine in bcaa mix out performed 3 g leucine bcaa mix. BUT, 3g leucine in whey outperformed 6g leucine bcaa mix.


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146. "RE: Follow-Ups & Clarifications"
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>Two follow-ups here: What is the minimally effective dose for
>leucine and what is the optimal timing of said dosage.

3g leucine results in max protein synthesis for a 4 to 6 hour refractory period. Any more during that time does nothing:

https://www.biolayne.com/wp-content/uploads/publications/Norton-J-Ag-Food-Ind-Hi-Tech-2008.pdf

>>Creatine
>What is optimal protocol (dose, timing, etc)

5 to 10 g daily or 0.01g/lb body weight. Higher end for heavier trainees w/ high volume regimen. Loading not necessary. 5 g for 30 days or 10 g for 15 days reaches full saturation, same as the old 5 day protocol. Take with food if you suspect you're not absorbing creatine.

>Gotcha. I have about 2 servings of grass-fed butter each day
>but assuming that's not enough to meet the requirement.

90 to 360 mcg of k2 mk7 is recommended. I have a chart somewhere of k2 content in some foodstuffs.

>I utilize a 100mg pill dose for pre-workout which works very
>well for me.

I get nothing from caffeine; just take it to avoid headaches. I do like nicotine gum every now and then pre-wo. Mostly take alpha-gpc.

>>1. Beta-alanine
>You may sense a trend here lol...protocol (dose, timing,
>etc)?

2 to 6 g daily. Take any time. ~2g+ at one time usually results in a histamine response, itchy/tingly skin. I know people that love that feeling. 1g or less doses to avoid that side effect. Might take a few weeks before you see any performance benefit.

>>2. Nitrate
>So it sounds like 300 to 600 mg of nitrate, 2 hours before the
>workout.

Yep. It can lower blood pressure so depending on some factors, start on the low end. Particularly if any other supplement taken also lowers blood pressure (egs., citrulline, arginine, garlic).

You'll love this website:
https://examine.com/supplements/beta-alanine/

The caffeine entry is insane (scientific research section) -
https://examine.com/supplements/caffeine/

  

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133. "right on, man...always dropping the timely knowledge..."
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I've been (if for no other reason than because that's what I was taught way back when) adhering to at least 1 gram per lb of bodyweight for as long as I can remember.

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46. "Maintaning a strict diet"
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is tougher than the most strenuous workout, so props to you on that regimen. How clean was your diet before this change and how long did it take you to make the switch to your current routine?

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50. "not clean at all"
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it took me a week to get over the cravings for what i was previously eating. but 3 months in, and it's still a learning process. i keep trying to learn more, and better my diet.

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77. "I'm with you on all that except bread."
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Man, giving that up is the hardest part.
Gave up sugar (pop, candy, ice cream, etc) back in June. Don't miss any of that.
But bread? Maaaaan.

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88. "i'm not a big bread fan, BUT"
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48. "Just transitioned from my travel sched to non-travel sched"
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Either way, I'm getting some activity in 7 days a week in order to maintain my optimal physical and mental health (in addition to exercise, proper sleep, a morning routine, meditation, ketogenic principled nutrition, and watching sports are instrumental for me) and therefore performance when treating, writing, etc.

Three principles that both schedules have in common are in regards to cardio, muscle activation/motor control and mobility aspects.
1) For cardio: I always have a mix of interval and steady-state in order to accomplish central (heart) adaptations via the former and peripheral adaptations (venous, capillary, arterial etc efficiency) via the latter. For interval, I'll normally cycle (i would love to row but I have a really hard time getting my heart rate over 135ish with rowing) and vary between longer (2.5 min) and shorter (30 sec) intervals with a 1:1 or less work:rest ratio, with intervals being in my lactic threshold heart rate range. Steady-state will normally be 35-40 mins of cycling or rowing.
2) For muscle activation/motor control: During my warm-up and as needed in my workout, I will always activate my hip abductors and posterior tib, and include a deceleration + knee alignment activity. If I'm doing something for my upper extremity, I will include scapular mobility and rotator cuff activation activities.
3)For mobility: In the warm-up, this is all dynamic for both upper and lower extremities. In my cool-down, I will focus on hip flexor stretching and thoracic mobility.

My travel schedule was as follows, 3x lifting, 3x cardio, 1x misc

Day 1 - squat pattern, vertical push, single leg squat pattern, vertical pull (4x circuit)
Day 2 - cardio intervals
Day 3 - lunge pattern, horizontal push, single leg lunge pattern, horizontal pull (4x circuit) + 5 min AMRAP of 5 burpees, 10 body-weight squats and 15 kb swings
Day 4 - cardio intervals
Day 5 - Mixed 5x circuit (2 min cardio intervals along with squats, TRX pulls, KB swings)
Day 6 - cardio steady state
Day 7 - yoga, tennis, bball

My new non-travel schedule is as follows, 4x lifting (equal distribution between compounds, balance and side to side diagnostics), 3x cardio
Day 1 - (squat pattern day) Heavy squat, single-leg lunge, superset of single-leg squat (currently, TRX pistol squat) and abdominals (currently, inch-worms)
Day 2 - Heavy vertical push, vertical pull, superset of vertical push and vertical pull and obliques (currently suitcase carry)
Day 3 - cardio intervals
Day 4 - Heavy horizontal push, horizontal pull, superset of horizontal push and horizontal pull and abdominals (currently planks)
Day 5 - (deadlift pattern) Heavy deadlifts, RDLs, superset of single-leg DL (currently TRX single-leg RDLs) and obliques (currently palloff press)
Day 6 - cardio intervals
Day 7 - cardio steady state

On the weekends, I get in at least one session of bball and if I have anyone to play with, tennis as well. Yoga I try to add in wherever I can.


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55. "question regarding heavy squatting..."
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I see people squat with and without wraps. I've read that you shouldn't wrap if you're doing less than 80% of your 1RM because it actually inhibits the joints and tendons from being strengthened, as the wraps are essentially doing their job. How do you feel about knee wraps. I have them, but I mainly use them for knee warmth, so i keep them relatively loose.

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65. "I haven't seen anything regarding a % cut-off "
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I think that's going to be a person to person scenario. I'd say make sure to squat in front of a mirror or if possible video yourself to see if your knees are caving in. If they are, focus on pulling your knees apart as you squat (I use the cue "pull the ground apart with your feet which works for me in pulling my knees apart). If that doesn't work and you don't want to drop weight and work on that form, then wraps are certainly preferable to knees diving in.

In general though, using an external crutch, particularly as you're building up weight, is (like you alluded to) going to inhibit structural and neuromuscular advancement...meaning you will have to rely on that external support going forward. That can be knee wraps, that can be grips, etc. For example, I was DL'ing 310 or so and this dude asked me how I was doing it without grips, I thought the answer was pretty simple "I never used them so my grip has adapted as well"

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"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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70. "thanks, great info....I guess there's a reason most squat racks..."
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are facing a big ass mirror. I had an issue where as I was going heavier, my knees would cave, by way of my foot rolling towards the inside. I had been raised in the church of "squatting in Chucks". I researched and bought some dedicated lifting shoes, now it feels like a completely different movement with a solidly constructed shoe around my foot.

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71. "Compounds in chucks isn't truly bad advice"
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You really do want a flat sole when lifting so you have maximal force transfer....the reason why lifting shoes help many people is because the raised heel alleviate a lot of range of motion issues especially when it comes to ankle dorsiflexion (this is also the reason you may see some cats doing lifts with their heels on a plate, same concept).

Your foot dropping inwards (in other words, pronating) could be due to multiple things but with that heavy of weight, I'd wager it had more to do with your hip abductors/external rotators not activating than an issue with your feet (if your hip is not rotating externally as much as it should, that means your tibia is internally rotated which means your ankle and foot will be dropping inward...kinetic chain). Regardless, no issue with lifting shoes on my part and I especially understand the difference because I have limited hip range of motion and very limited dorsiflexion in my right ankle due to poor mobility management after surgery during my senior year of high school....I've been working my hip mobility but I still compensate with a wider stance and slightly externally rotating my feet.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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68. "You've all successfully made me feel shitty, lol."
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I was about to come in like, "I've started lifting 2-3 times a week, back to hooping 1-2 times a week, and I'm drinking less!"

I'm looking at y'all's regimes with Steve Harvey Eyes. Envious as shit.

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82. "Oh, you can still contribute, Laptop_Longo"
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>I was about to come in like, "I've started lifting 2-3 times
>a week, back to hooping 1-2 times a week, and I'm drinking
>less!"
>
>I'm looking at y'all's regimes with Steve Harvey Eyes. Envious
>as shit.
>
>Sincerely,
>Bum At A Laptop

What are these Steve Harvey Eyes you're referring to? Sounds like there's a meme of Steve Harvey I'm not aware of.

Instead of feeling like a bum, use that envy for motivate you to kick it up a notch, time and health permitting. A healthy dose of fat shamming, or guess sloth shamming in your case.

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72. "Crossfit 3-4 times a week. Expensive as hell, but worth it for me"
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Whenever I used to go to the gym (a very rare occasion) I was always overwhelmed. I had no specific task in mind. I'd just show up and do bench press each time and some random machines.
And I'd just quit whenever I felt even the least bit tired. That was usually whenever the first bead of sweat started to form on my forehead.

The pre-programmed workout aspect of crossfit and the group dynamic took care of both of those issues for me. I actually look forward to working out now. Been doing it for about 5-6months and I notice a big change already


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73. "I just ran a half marathon on Sunday have another next month"
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I've done a variety of races this year. I do a progressive interval circuit workout 4-6 days a week. Run 3-6 miles 2-3 times a week.

Been a real busy summer but the results make it worth it.

I made a goal to be active 75% of my days this year. I am ahead of schedule so far, per that math I have 42 "rest" days allotted for the rest of the year, I should have no problem meeting my goal if I stay on the path I've been on so far.

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76. "do you still bowl?"
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not that it has anything to do with this post, unless you count it as an active day.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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81. "I hung em up last year. Just got too bored"
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May come back in a year or two but NO I would not count that as an "active" day tho.

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83. "jiujitsu is now my life"
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I love that shit.

Outside of family and friends jiujitsu is top priority.

Since I've been laid off I have t been on the bike, but look forward to getting back on the horse when I get a gig.

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84. "Still at Marcello's?"
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Also, have you gotten any injuries since you've been rolling?

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95. "Yep. Thanks for reminding me that place was so close"
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>Also, have you gotten any injuries since you've been
>rolling?

I train twice a day sometimes. The only thing that sucks I dont have enough money or time to lift now-- so thats gone away.

When i get a job again I actually found a cheap gym by my houes with a squat rack and everything so Ill be joining to supplement my jiujitsu.


I havent gotten any major injuries. Fingers will always be sore along with other body parts. The biggest injury I have gotten is a really sore neck. In general though Ive never been an injury prone person, I think cause im not that athletic and strong naturally so my muscles generate minimal force to get strained or torn (knock on wood).

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111. "RE: Yep. Thanks for reminding me that place was so close"
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>>Also, have you gotten any injuries since you've been
>>rolling?
>
>I train twice a day sometimes. The only thing that sucks I
>dont have enough money or time to lift now-- so thats gone
>away.
>
>When i get a job again I actually found a cheap gym by my
>houes with a squat rack and everything so Ill be joining to
>supplement my jiujitsu.

Is it Blink by any chance? There's one that opened up near where I live that has three squat racks. For $15 per mouth, that is a steal, especially in NYC.

>I havent gotten any major injuries. Fingers will always be
>sore along with other body parts. The biggest injury I have
>gotten is a really sore neck. In general though Ive never been
>an injury prone person, I think cause im not that athletic and
>strong naturally so my muscles generate minimal force to get
>strained or torn (knock on wood).

Good on you for not getting too banged up. Outside the training costing me too much, fear of getting seriously hurt is one of my main fears in terms of doing any type of martial arts training.

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127. "RE: Yep. Thanks for reminding me that place was so close"
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>>>Also, have you gotten any injuries since you've been
>>>rolling?
>>
>>I train twice a day sometimes. The only thing that sucks I
>>dont have enough money or time to lift now-- so thats gone
>>away.
>>
>>When i get a job again I actually found a cheap gym by my
>>houes with a squat rack and everything so Ill be joining to
>>supplement my jiujitsu.
>
>Is it Blink by any chance? There's one that opened up near
>where I live that has three squat racks. For $15 per mouth,
>that is a steal, especially in NYC.

Nah the Blink by me is on Flatbush --its not far but would take too long to walk. Last I heard they only had 1 squat rack. This is a mom and pop gym. 1 quat rack but barley any customers. I think its like 10 bucks a month theyre open late.





>
>>I havent gotten any major injuries. Fingers will always be
>>sore along with other body parts. The biggest injury I have
>>gotten is a really sore neck. In general though Ive never
>been
>>an injury prone person, I think cause im not that athletic
>and
>>strong naturally so my muscles generate minimal force to get
>>strained or torn (knock on wood).
>
>Good on you for not getting too banged up. Outside the
>training costing me too much, fear of getting seriously hurt
>is one of my main fears in terms of doing any type of martial
>arts training.


Man i cant lie to you and say you wont get hurt. Lots of guys definitely get banged up, but its not a concern of mine every day. Most of the stuff is nicks and bruises and if you listen to your body I think you can avoid most serious injuries. Of course there are always freak injuries, but thats not happening every day

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99. "ive been 80/20 Primal since 09 for the most part"
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ive dabbled with keto but its hard for me to maintain.

I do an IF type protocol. Its not always 16 hours cause I eat late dinners sometimes but I train jiujitsu most days from 11:30 - 12:30 or 1:30 without a breakfast.

I used to cycle 8 miles to work and train at 11:30 fasted.

Since ive been fasting for so long my body is pretty much conditioned to work efficiently without breakfast

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90. "Boot camp class 2 days a week, and DDP Yoga"
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Going to start lifting again a couple days a week too. I go for a 3-4 mile run occasionally. That will be the routine for the next 4 months or so.

Next spring I'll start playing hoop once-twice a week. My run recently fell off, but it should pick back up in the spring.

  

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109. "i def want to do a boot camp...my wife tried it and cried for 3 days"
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until she quit. smh

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122. "First 2 weeks are rough for me every time I start up"
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After that my body adapts to it, and my focus changes from just making it through class to trying to get in as many reps as I can, running my fastest, etc.

  

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131. "thats how it was for me with insanity"
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let me clarify...that's how it was for me for the insanity warm up. Eventually i was able to get through it without resting and would focus on increasing my speed.

Similar with t25, after a week or so i was able to get through it without resting and increase my reps.

Never went through a whole insanity work out without rest lol

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103. "Looking for a good boxing glove to get started"
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I currently only have access to a heavy bag, and on rare occasion, a trainer w/ mitts. I'm trying to stay under $100, and based on my research, I've narrowed it down to the following two:

http://www.revgear.com/product/elite-leather-boxing-gloves/

https://www.amazon.com/Hayabusa-Fightwear-Tokushu-Regenesis-Gloves/dp/B00PFIO5O4/ref=pd_lpo_200_tr_t_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=1EZ7H5E8GX54XEGC9HQ7


Otherwise, I've been learning how to play soccer over the past two months. I'm doing pick-up once a week ... fundamentals are trash, but I just outhustle the other team and have scored several times. Also doing flag football practice once per week. Other than that, I just do HIIT classes at my gym, and sometimes drills on weekends.

I'm at a crossroad in terms of an actual plan, honestly. I'm at 5'10, 200, about 16% body fat. I'd love to get down to at least 12, but I also want to start putting a little bulk on too. I lift about once a week these days (typically upper body/chest), but regardless of what I decide that'll have to go up and I need to get my diet in order.

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104. "I might be in the worst shape of my life right now"
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And at this time last year I was probably in the best shape I'd been since high school. Definitely the strongest I'd ever been.

But it should be an easy fix.

I just need to get off my ass and back in the gym.


Eating right won't be a problem. I slacked off my diet because I knew I wasn't getting into the gym and I put on a decent amount of weight.

So the plan is back to the gym and straight cardio until I burn it off.
Then back to lifting.

Last year I was in the gym 4 days a week every week from about March to November. Holidays got me off track and I haven't gotten back in there consistently since.

Starting in October I'll be back in there.

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106. "yoga, elliptical, weights, and walking"
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The yoga is down to 2-3 vigorous sessions per week. I'm not sure my body will ever be able to handle the routine I was doing before my rotator cuff tore. My knees are getting old, and I'm prioritizing injury prevention over everything.

Which is why cardio is elliptical. Too much running and it's only a matter of time until I start getting joints replaced. Elliptical doesn't bother them, so it's intervals about twice a week.

The weights are to hit muscles yoga doesn't get to. And to my fella old heads: get you a FitBit. You'll walk more and feel better due to.

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114. "Any low back issues during or after the elliptical sessions? "
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I'm assuming no bc with your yoga background, guessing you have pretty good hip extension range of motion (many people on the elliptical will compensate for that lack of hip extension with lumbar rotation..resulting in back pain)

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138. "Yeah, yoga is a panacea for my low and mid back"
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Shoulders and neck can still fall prey to anxiety, but as long as I stay up with my yoga practice, I feel like I could do straight leg dead lifts with bad form eight times a week and be good,

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119. "RE: yoga, elliptical, weights, and walking"
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>And to my
>fella old heads: get you a FitBit. You'll walk more and feel
>better due to.

To go the extra mile; get a device that will accurately capture your activity while going through the various workouts mentioned in this thread. Counting steps (really arm swings for most devices that capture steps taken) is cool and all, but knowing how much goes into each workout is better IMO. And to piggyback on what Leroy_Bumpkin somewhat mentioned, knowing what you put into each workout will motivate you to buckle down to maintain or even surpass what you've done in the past.

I've been using a Polar Loop device paired with a Heart Rate monitor that I strap across my chest before every workout. Reason I specifically bought this device is because I read with my little research that the devices that track your heart rate via optically reading your pulse on your wrist aren't all that accurate.

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121. "this is what I heard as wel....re: heart rate monitor...."
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I have the chest strap type and it reads back to my bike computer. Pretty helpful to know what zone I'm riding in at a given time.

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137. "yeah the Fitbit is the gateway drug"
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I already wants something that can give me a somewhat accurate heart rate over 135 bpm, at which point my Fitbit charge might as well be a random number generator

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112. "C+/B- grade weight workouts mostly. Diet has been key for me"
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My workout style needs an overhaul, as I'm basically doing
shitty versions of my college age workouts (run a good bit,
lift a good bit, standard)

I think this isn't a big problem, especially since I eat
better overall now, and consequently, now see good gains
in my overall physical being. Also blessed with no rickety
rack injuries. I recover haul.

But diet and hydration have been key for me.

But I'm going to overhaul the workout sometime soon.

Did crossfit recently; I'm not all in, but I see the benefits
and could see myself giving it a go

could be talked into trying yoga

haven't done a competitive sport since I stopped boxing
a years back



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113. "I went in a Cryo Chamber today"
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Why? Not sure.

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116. "I'm in charge of open gym program once a week at work"
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I get to hoop with high school kids AND get paid for it. i have a 30 min uphill walk i try to do 1-2x/week on top of my program. hopefully i can expand the program to 2x/week.

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117. "Glad to see some cyclists are in OKS!"
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That's just about the only form of exercise I do. I ride road & mountain, which is quite the expensive habit.

Doing my first ever bike race next Sunday, a 73 mile race. I'm kinda upset because I had my best month ever in August riding and mile wise, I felt really strong, but took too much time off this month and have only 5 rides. Last night I felt like SHIT. I'm trying to be in peak riding condition for the race so I have about 9 days to get my SHIT together.

Weather is getting better I was riding in 110 degree heat all summer but cooler weather also means "snow birds" moving back and really bad drivers.

I wish my diet was better and that I didn't love beer, but you gotta live a little!

I usually ride twice a week, average about 40-50 miles per ride with 2 to 3,000 ft of climbing. All about those climbs.

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118. "Are you in the Phoenix/Tucson area? "
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I've been a cycling commuter and roadie for a minute (with some longer rides here and there) but started dabbling in mountain biking recently and loved the amount of precision, technique, and constant focus it required (gave me a similar feeling to how I feel when playing a sport, a feeling I've never been able to reproduce on a road cycle). Planning on purchasing my first mountain bike and I'm gonna be in Phoenix/Tucson from October - December...any advice on the first purchase and if you are indeed knowledgable of the Phoenix/Tucson area, any advice on beginner paths there would be much appreciated (can include Sedona as well).

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147. "yeah i live in phoenix"
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>I've been a cycling commuter and roadie for a minute (with
>some longer rides here and there) but started dabbling in
>mountain biking recently and loved the amount of precision,
>technique, and constant focus it required (gave me a similar
>feeling to how I feel when playing a sport, a feeling I've
>never been able to reproduce on a road cycle). Planning on
>purchasing my first mountain bike and I'm gonna be in
>Phoenix/Tucson from October - December...any advice on the
>first purchase and if you are indeed knowledgable of the
>Phoenix/Tucson area, any advice on beginner paths there would
>be much appreciated (can include Sedona as well).

awesome man, definitely PM me i know a lot about bikes and can steer you in the right direction. im a native and know the best road and mountain trails all over the state, will be glad to give you tips. there are amazing paths thru scottsdale and phoenix, just depends where you are staying, just let me know where and ill give you some really solid options

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120. "nice man...I had no idea...."
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I made a Tour de France post last year and it went triple wood. Maybe you aren't into it like that. I'm a cycling nerd. Good shit on your race. I did my first century last season. Did a metric century and a couple 50mi charity rides this year. When weather permits, I try to get about 100 mi a week in. I have a mountain bike, but it's more for hopping on the Katy Trail when I wanna do a recovery ride or something. My road bike is my love. What type of ride do you have?

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148. "RE: nice man...I had no idea...."
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>I made a Tour de France post last year and it went triple
>wood. Maybe you aren't into it like that. I'm a cycling
>nerd. Good shit on your race. I did my first century last
>season. Did a metric century and a couple 50mi charity rides
>this year. When weather permits, I try to get about 100 mi a
>week in. I have a mountain bike, but it's more for hopping on
>the Katy Trail when I wanna do a recovery ride or something.
>My road bike is my love. What type of ride do you have?

to immediately answer your question, i have a KTM revelator 3500 for road and a Diamondback Release 3 for mtb.
i watched the Tour this year and last, thought i posted in that thread but maybe i missed it.

centuries are such a bitch dude. i have done two and both were in Phoenix 100 degree heat. the worst was adding climbing in on mile 80 up a 400 ft hill. i had to lay on the concrete for an hour and had moms asking if i needed a 911 call. at least i politely declined and finished the ride?

mountain biking is a blast here too, the national trail on South Mountain in Phoenix is legendary, some of the best black diamond trails you will find on earth. thats why i sold my carbon hard tail for a full suspension.

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142. "word..."
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..i've considered moving the OkayCyclist thread to this forum, mostly because people show interest, but rarely browse the Organix forum.




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135. "I'm trying to keep a strict-ish diet to minimize the necessary gym time ..."
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I have too many hobbies and interests... Spending dozens of hours a week in the gym isn't one of them right now. I try to do 2 or 3 heavy lifts followed by 10-20 minutes of medium to intense cardio, so it's usually 45 minutes max.
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145. "RE: I'm trying to keep a strict-ish diet to minimize the necessary gym t..."
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I feel you. Way too busy to hit the gym as much as I need to, so I take the dog cor a 3-mile walk almost daily and try to get in 2 gym sessions a week but stick to the basics: bench, squat, deadlift, some other stuff mixed in.

I can eat so healthy but my kryptonite is craft beer. I love it, but I know it has so much calories. I need to get back hooping again.

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mrhood75
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149. "And now for something non-fitness related: a shameless plug"
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Bomb and I are out to take over the Internet, one musical think-piece at a time.

I got down with Albumism.com couple a little over a month ago, and have been doing some regular writing for them ever since. Bomb has been rocking it writing-wise for his own site and other venues for a while now, and I made the introductions with Albumism, and now he's down with the team.

Anyway, if you're interested (and you should be), check out our latest review/features over there:

Bomb's piece on the 25th anniversary of Black Sheep's first album:

http://www.albumism.com/features/tribute-celebrating-25-years-of-black-sheep-a-wolf-in-sheeps-clothing

And my piece on the 25th anniversary of Del's first album:

http://www.albumism.com/features/tribute-celebrating-25-years-of-del-the-funky-homosapien-i-wish-my-brother-george-was-here

And, uh, I got some other features and album review on there as well. And Bomb is going to have a lot more to come.

Ch-check us out.

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151. "Good shit!"
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