Projected 2016-17 records and standings for every NBA team (Pelton)

How many games will each team win in 2016-17?

How many games will the Golden State Warriors win after adding Kevin Durant to the core of a team that went 73-9 last season? Which teams might jump from the lottery to the playoffs, and who might they replace?

To help answer these questions, here's an early look at 2016-17 NBA projections using ESPN's real plus-minus (RPM).

RPM was developed by Jeremias Engelmann and Steve Ilardi to estimate a player's on-court impact on team performance, measured in net point differential per 100 offensive and defensive possessions. RPM takes into account teammates, opponents and additional factors. When used along with playing time projections, it's proved to be a very accurate predictive tool overall.

Last season, these projections correctly forecast that the Portland Trail Blazers would be more competitive than expected, the Boston Celtics would maintain their second-half success from the year before and the Milwaukee Bucks would fall out of the playoffs. (They also missed on other teams, including the Toronto Raptors emerging as a top threat to the Cleveland Cavaliers in the Eastern Conference and the Houston Rockets limping along near .500.) Two years ago, RPM foresaw the rise of the Golden State Warriors.

Like last season, I've put together projected playing time based on a formula that estimates games missed based on the number missed over the past three seasons (adjusted for any offseason injuries/suspensions) and my own guesses at how rotations will shake out.

Most veteran players are rated using the multiyear, predictive version of RPM, adjusted for the typical aging curve. Newcomers to the league and players who played too little for an RPM rating are rated using their projected offensive and defensive rating from my SCHOENE projection system, which incorporates translated performance in the NCAA and professional leagues besides the NBA.

Let's take a look at the results.

Western Conference

1. Golden State Warriors
Projected wins: 66.8 (Summer Forecast: 67-15)

Within the context of the conservative nature of win projections, which tend to be regressed heavily to the mean, a 67-win projection is remarkable. The Warriors' projection is two wins higher than the next best in the seven years I've gone back to do projections using this method: 64.9 for the 2010-11 Miami Heat, who actually won just 58 games because of the time it took their version of the Big Three to build chemistry on the court.

2. San Antonio Spurs
Projected wins: 54.5 (Summer Forecast: 57-25)

It's a huge step downward to second place in the West. With Tim Duncan's retirement and the aging of other core players, the Spurs will be hard-pressed to stay with Golden State in the regular season as they did last season. But RPM still has them comfortably second in the West.

3. Utah Jazz
Projected wins: 47.6 (Summer Forecast: 45-37)

This might seem like a crazy leap for a team that didn't make the playoffs last year, but remember: The Jazz actually had the fifth-best point differential in the West (plus-1.8 PPG). Ordinarily, that would translate into 46 wins, and that was despite injuries (including Dante Exum missing the entire season) and before Utah loaded up with veterans this offseason. The Jazz should be considered the favorites to win the Northwest Division.

4. L.A. Clippers
Projected wins: 46.3 (Summer Forecast: 52-30)

Given the Clippers won 53 games last year without Blake Griffin for much of the season, a seven-win drop would be a surprise. But RPM sees several key players on the wrong side of the aging curve.

5. Houston Rockets
Projected wins: 45.8 (Summer Forecast: 41-41)

RPM projects the Rockets to be a top-five offense next year, but they'll still struggle to reach 45 wins if their defense is worse than an optimistic projection of 16th in the league.

6. Oklahoma City Thunder
Projected wins: 45.6 (Summer Forecast: 44-38)

Even without Durant, RPM forecasts the Thunder in the mix for home-court advantage in the West thanks to star point guard Russell Westbrook and a deep cast of young role players.

7. Portland Trail Blazers
Projected wins: 44.5 (Summer Forecast: 46-36)

After reaching the second round of the playoffs and adding Festus Ezeli and Evan Turner this offseason, the Blazers hope to take the next step in their development. RPM sees them as about the same team as 2015-16, when they won 44 games but finished fifth in a weaker West.

8. Denver Nuggets
Projected wins: 40.4 (Summer Forecast: 34-48)

Quietly, the Nuggets have assembled an intriguing group of young talent (led by RPM favorite Nikola Jokic, projected for plus-5.0 points per 100 possessions) with a few veterans in tow. Even with Danilo Gallinari projected for just 50 games, internal development could be enough to push Denver into surprising playoff contention.

9. Memphis Grizzlies
Projected wins: 39.4 (Summer Forecast: 43-39)

Yes, the Grizzlies strengthened their starting lineup by signing Chandler Parsons, but their bench is incredibly thin and several starters (including Parsons) are major injury risks. Gulp.

10. Sacramento Kings
Projected wins: 37.7 (Summer Forecast: 30-52)

The Kings have one of the biggest discrepancies of any team between their projection in ESPN's summer forecast (30 wins, 13th in the West) and by RPM, which sees Sacramento deep in average talent around DeMarcus Cousins.

11. Minnesota Timberwolves
Projected wins: 37.1 (Summer Forecast: 39-43)

Remember, RPM projections don't factor in coaching, and the arrival of Tom Thibodeau makes the Timberwolves overwhelmingly likely to outperform their projected ranking of 27th in defensive rating.

12. New Orleans Pelicans
Projected wins: 37.0 (Summer Forecast: 35-47)

New Orleans is deeper after shopping for midtier free agents this summer, but RPM projects just three players on the roster to be better than league average: Anthony Davis, Jrue Holiday and newcomer Solomon Hill.

13. Dallas Mavericks
Projected wins: 34.3 (Summer Forecast: 40-42)

Might this be the year that coach Rick Carlisle, veteran big man Dirk Nowitzki and a cast of newcomers can't get the Mavericks to the playoffs? RPM says yes, since swapping Parsons (plus-1.3) for Harrison Barnes (minus-0.7) grades as a major downgrade.

14. Phoenix Suns
Projected wins: 29.2 (Summer Forecast: 26-56)

The Suns figure to be a bit more competitive with the return of RPM favorite Eric Bledsoe (plus-2.2) but are still too young to compete in the West.

15. L.A. Lakers
Projected wins: 24.3 (Summer Forecast: 25-57)

Despite their offseason additions of No. 2 pick Brandon Ingram and veterans Luol Deng and Timofey Mozgov, RPM has the Lakers with the league's fewest projected wins.


How will the East shake out in 2016-17?
Eastern Conference

1. Cleveland Cavaliers
Projected wins: 52.1 (Summer Forecast: 57-25)

While the Cavaliers are still solidly tops in the East, their projection is down from last year's 57 wins because RPM takes a dim view of Kyrie Irving's defense and considers Matthew Dellavedova (plus-1.2 projection) a considerable loss as Irving's backup. Note that this projection assumes J.R. Smith ultimately re-signs in Cleveland.

2. Boston Celtics
Projected wins: 49.8 (Summer Forecast: 51-31)

Last year, RPM nailed the Celtics' 48-win finish, though the Raptors jumped ahead of Boston to take second in the East. Now, RPM sees the Celtics taking a modest step forward with the addition of Al Horford.

3. Toronto Raptors
Projected wins: 48.8 (Summer Forecast: 51-31)

After getting career years from guards DeMar DeRozan and Kyle Lowry, the Raptors are likely to regress to the pack this year, but fans can take solace in Toronto having outperformed its RPM projection each of the past three seasons.

4. Detroit Pistons
Projected wins: 47.5 (Summer Forecast: 45-37)

While most of the East's middle class took a step backward this offseason, the Pistons should improve by virtue of upgrading at backup point guard and center, and RPM sees them as the third team in a tier with Boston and Toronto.

5. Washington Wizards
Projected wins: 41.4 (Summer Forecast: 41-41)

There's a big gap between the top four in the East and a pack of teams projected fifth through about 11th. The Wizards lead that group after going 18-13 after last year's All-Star break.

6. Charlotte Hornets
Projected wins: 41.0 (Summer Forecast: 43-39)

Though the return of Michael Kidd-Gilchrist (plus-2.0) should be a boost, RPM doesn't like the Hornets' new backup backcourt of Ramon Sessions (minus-2.4) and Marco Belinelli (minus-3.7).

7. Milwaukee Bucks
Projected wins: 40.9 (Summer Forecast: 39-43)

The Bucks have oscillated between wildly under- and overperforming projections. If that trend holds, this should be the year for exceeding expectations, and RPM views both Dellavedova and Mirza Teletovic (minus-0.6) as upgrades.

8. Indiana Pacers
Projected wins: 38.9 (Summer Forecast: 45-37)

By virtue of having one of the East's top players in Paul George and a promising youngster in Myles Turner, the Pacers are getting contender buzz in the East. RPM is not so optimistic, viewing the swap of George Hill (plus-0.8) for Jeff Teague (minus-0.6) as a downgrade.

9. Atlanta Hawks
Projected wins: 38.6 (Summer Forecast: 44-38)

RPM has had a tough time forecasting the Hawks, pegging Atlanta for near-.500 records each of the past two seasons, when the Hawks have actually finished second and fourth in the East. This time, Atlanta may have to beat its projection to make the playoffs.

10. Miami Heat
Projected wins: 38.3 (Summer Forecast: 36-46)


Even with Chris Bosh in the lineup, the Heat may have a tough time making the playoffs after losing Luol Deng, Joe Johnson and Dwyane Wade. Without Bosh, Miami's projection drops to 35.2 wins and 12th in the East.

11. Chicago Bulls
Projected wins: 37.8 (Summer Forecast: 40-42)

RPM doesn't view adding Wade (minus-1.3) and Rajon Rondo (minus-1.4) as upgrades for Chicago, and that's before even taking the fit issues they create into account.

12. Orlando Magic
Projected wins: 36.2 (Summer Forecast: 35-47)

The Magic spent big on free agents D.J. Augustin (minus-1.6) and Jeff Green (minus-2.1), neither of whom RPM sees helping Orlando much on the court this season.

13. New York Knicks
Projected wins: 34.7 (Summer Forecast: 40-42)

The Knicks would certainly be disappointed if they improved just three wins after spending freely this summer, but RPM rates Derrick Rose (minus-2.3) as a replacement-level contributor at this point and is skeptical of New York's weak bench.

14. Brooklyn Nets
Projected wins: 28.8 (Summer Forecast: 20-62)

A full season from second-year wing Rondae Hollis-Jefferson (plus-1.2), along with improved play at point guard with Jeremy Lin (minus-0.3), should make the Nets a bit more competitive this season.

15. Philadelphia 76ers
Projected wins: 24.5 (Summer Forecast: 20-62)

Even with conservative projections for rookies Ben Simmons (minus-1.9) and Joel Embiid (minus-1.4), the Sixers figure to take a massive step forward this season despite still being projected for the East's worst record.

i loved their summer. brought in quality vets (george hill, boris diaw, joe johnson) on value contracts who fit right into what they do.

they're young, long, athletic, have depth at every position, they defend and they're extremely well-coached. i'm expecting a nice leap.

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Maybe can even push GS to 6 or 7 in a second-round series, or knock off a higher-seeded Spurs or even the Clippers. They look so deep and rich in talent, with three guys who might be top 25-30 players next year. That George Hill pickup really set them up. Favors will have to keep hitting his midrange jumper and being a capable playmaker as the roll man, things I'm a little shaky on, but if their offense takes the spike I'm expecting, they'll be damn good this year.

Rest everybody in hopes of earning the privilege of a playoff berth. Bron needs to start adjusting to the Tim Duncan rest schedule if he's going to perform in the playoffs.

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According to their summer forecast, these are the playoffs next year:

>Western Conference
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>1. Golden State Warriors (67-15)
>5. Houston Rockets (41-41)

>4. Portland Trail Blazers (46-36)
>5. Utah Jazz (45-37)

>2. San Antonio Spurs (57-25)
>7. Memphis Grizzlies (43-39)

>3. L.A. Clippers (52-30)
>6. Oklahoma City Thunder (44-38)

I personally think the Wolves will sneak into either 7th or 8th with about 44 wins but everything else looks right. But given this field:

Warriors 4-1
Blazers 4-3
Spurs 4-1 Gasol bowl playoffs
Clippers 4-3

2nd round
Warriors over Blazers 4-1
Spurs over Clippers 4-3

WCF
Warriors over Spurs 4-2

>Eastern Conference
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>1. Cleveland Cavaliers (57-25)
>8. Washington Wizards (41-41)

>4. Atlanta Hawks (44-38) <--Division winner)
>5. Indiana Pacers (45-37)

>2. Boston Celtics (51-31)
>7. Charlotte Hornets (43-39)

>3. Toronto Raptors (51-31)
>6. Detroit Pistons (45-37)


Though I think they are wrong about Mil, Chi and NY (I think ATL, Detroit and the Wiz will be most vulnerable with at least 2 of them missing the playoffs) if I had to pick from this field:

Cavs 4-0
Pacers 4-2
Celtics 4-3 (tough series, especially is MKG is healthy)
Pistons 4-3 (Yup, upset, t.dot's time is up IMO)

2nd rd
Cavs 4-2 over Pacers
Celtics 4-2 over Pistons

ECF
Cavs over Celtics 4-2

Finals
Warriors vs Cavs = 4-2 Warriors

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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

I think 3-8 is gonna be REAL tight but Boston and Cle are the top two seeds.

I could see the east being like

3-Toronto (46-36)
4-Indy (45-37)
5-NY (45-37)
6-Chicago (45-37)
7-Det (44-38)
8-MIL/ATL/CHA (43-39)

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last season. Played Cle pretty well in the playoffs too.

Think they'll be more like 50-52 wins along with Bos and Toronto

We'll see tho

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

and a significant cut above the next group.

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but they won't, so they not.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

don't play yaself © khaled

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Wouldn't shock me if they grabbed a 2-3 seed.

but will be pretty sus on defense.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

And another $100 for every game difference in the records

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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

This is all a guessing game. I'd be no more surprised if the Pistons won 50 games and the Bulls won 35 than if the Bulls won 45 and the Pistons won 44.

If it was something I felt strongly about, I'd take your bet.

But you acting like Detroit was world beating last year.

I mean:

Detroit 44-38
Chicago 42-40

And the best player on a team that went 48-34 is now on our team.

I tell you what though...since I'm less definitive on it, I'll take a lesser bet:

$200 for best record, $50 for every game difference.

1 Caveat, if Drummond/Jackson or Wade/Butler get a major injury (let's define major as 15+ consecutive games) bet is off.

Bet?

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Makes this sh!t completely boring.

L U L Z at the teams after the Cavs.

Worst conference in history. Easy.

the only difference imo is the west has 2 contenders while the east has 1.

beyond that, the second tier east teams (raps, Cs, pistons) are just as good as the ones out west (clipps, rox, jazz, okc)

the conferences are as close as they've been in a while.




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>Makes this sh!t completely boring.
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>L U L Z at the teams after the Cavs.
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>Worst conference in history. Easy.

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its the superteams.

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Right I see them in roughly the same position as last year. Which isn't to say they can't be 2 seed. Last year it was close after cle/tor, but anointing them automatically to 2 - don't see it.

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I'd like to think it's not that crazy to believe that Horford might make them AT LEAST two games better.

The stats don't like the Raptors as much, haven't come around on Detroit, and IMO underestimate Indiana.

But it's a silly stat based system. With different stats mixed and matched and guesses made at playing time.

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they added Horford. That's enough to think they'll inch past the Raptors.

At some point, probably early in the season, the Dubs are going to lose a few games in a row and there will be a lot of "ZOMG! Signing Durant was a mistake!!!! Chemistry issues!!!1!!1!!111" articles and think pieces. Those will be dumb.

I will also guess that the Bulls will get more than 38/39 wins.

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>At some point, probably early in the season, the Dubs are
>going to lose a few games in a row and there will be a lot of
>"ZOMG! Signing Durant was a mistake!!!! Chemistry
>issues!!!1!!1!!111" articles and think pieces. Those will be
>dumb.

i think his integration will be smooth as 10 year old bourbon. they'll hit the ground running and won't look back.

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beat 95% of the league easily.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

>i think his integration will be smooth as 10 year old bourbon.
>they'll hit the ground running and won't look back.

I generally agree. But if, say, they lose the opening game to the Spurs (it could happen), I expect to see a lot of those annoying think pieces. Or, on their second road trip of the year, they play Toronto, Boston, the Bucks, and the Pacers. I could see them losing two, possibly three of those games (it could happen). I certainly would expect the obnoxious think pieces if they lose to the Raptors and the Celtics back to back to start the trip.

But I won't lie, in general, I look at the schedule. And don't see many losses. 82-0, baby! 98-0! Can't a damn thang stop us!!!!!!111!!!

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be more optimistic than me in this regard, but defense and rebounding with that line-up raises some concerns for me. And I have to assume Kerr will scale things back in terms of trying to win every game since Curry looked like he was less than himself in the playoffs. I dunno if it was fully based on health since he also committed some terrible turnovers in the playoffs, but I have to think Kerr and the coaching staff will want Curry to get more rest during the regular season.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

and defensively?

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

I don't have any confidence Zaza Pachullia will do much of anything since were are in 2016 and will leave the bulk of the heavy lifting on the defensive and rebounding effort to Durant and Draymond Green. If they can hold down that fort, along with having to play key parts on the offensive end of things, kudos to them.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

get knocked out in the wester conf playoffs, lose again in the finals?

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

This year's line up is so different from their normal line-up, so I honestly can't call it. The lack of size and depth bothers me a little bit since I'm someone that likes solid defensive effort, but time will tell. Having solid defense will matter in a seven game playoff series, but out West only the Clippers and the Spurs strike me as teams with size that can challenge to Warriors based on what I'm think about in terms of rosters.

Pertaining to the regular season, I have to imagine Kerr will look to rest Curry a lot more than he last year. If and when the Warriors struggle in the regular season, I can't imagine it'll be that big a deal since it's to be expected.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

at their weaknesses (which every nba championship team has had) when they basically traded barnes/bogut for zaza/durant. So even if they slipped on the boards and defensively (which i don't think they did) they are light years better on offense.

I expect them to be right back in the finals this year. Unless you're saying you expect them to be worse than last year, you aren't really saying much. Cavs team was very flawed last season and they still won the chip.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

made them an interesting team to watch the past two years, at least for me. That's the main reason I selfishly don't like the Durant move; the roster is drastically shortened. I guess with the lack of dominant big men in the league, them not having the option to go big isn't that big of a loss. In a seven game play off series, getting consistent stops is still key though. Will remain to be seen if they can pull it off with the current roster.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

i think GS's loss of depth is being overstated. their key bench guys (iggy and shawn) are still around. the guys they lost -- leandrinho, ezeli, sp8z -- are replaceable parts imo.

also, you're undervaluing pachulia. he's coming off a career year in dallas and is essentially the same age as bogut. that swap is virtually a wash.

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after bogut was gone. Barbosa was the 3rd wing off the bench.

Besides the need for depth is lessened when you add a top 3 player in the league to replace harrison buns.

We're really sitting here talking about the dubs 9-12 players?

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Man... I'm still pissed about that.

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because the W's starting 5 (or 4 + 1, whatever you want to call it lol) will be operating at a redline that no other team can come close to matching, resulting in even more significant leads than last year. Further, they now have another on the ball play-maker in KD who can be the focal point in PnR allowing for Steph to get even more rest off the ball and giving Kerr another option if Steph is pressing too much when he does have the ball.

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1. The Warriors defensive issues have always been overstated. The only defensive stud we lost was Bogut, and he only played 20 to 25 minutes a game. Barnes was good, but not any sort of all-timer. And Ezeli could well continue to fall apart, health-wise.

2. Durant, ZaZa, and Green will be fine on the boards.

3. Any depth issues are also overstated. Iggy and Livingston are back. If McGee keeps his head out of his ass, that's a solid addition. Looney is on a come up. We'll see what the rest of the young players turn into.

Yeah, this isn't a perfect team, but none are. And it's looking really damn good on first blush. The only real cause for concern is health.

>And I have to assume Kerr will scale things back in terms of
>trying to win every game since Curry looked like he was less
>than himself in the playoffs. I dunno if it was fully based on
>health since he also committed some terrible turnovers in the
>playoffs, but I have to think Kerr and the coaching staff will
>want Curry to get more rest during the regular season.

I agree with this part. The coaching stuff is going to give Curry a lot more rest during the season. Same with Durant, who has had injury issues as well. That's why I've always expected their win total to be in the mid 60s this season. 65 to 67 sounds about right. And people will still complain that they underperformed.

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every game lol.

The biggest factor in how many wins they finish with is probably how close the spurs/clips are in the standings.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

IF they lose a few early, Kerr will ease up and make sure everyone rests throughout the season, especially on back-to-backs.

But I agree, the Spurs playing so well last year is a big part of what motivated the coaching staff to make sure the played to win every night.

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will Golden State need home court advantage against in the playoffs? The regular season this year should mainly focus on playoff seeding. I'm hoping Kerr and the coaching staff won't try to chase 70+ wins since outside of getting in the record books again, it'll be pointless and could lead to more harm than good. Without putting serious thought into the matter, I'm guessing finishing with a top four seed is all that'll matter, but I could be wrong.

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is wrong.

Kerr isn't going to be resting these dudes to the point that they are needlessly losing games. They still will play low 30 minutes.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

Kerr will want home court advantage throughout the play-offs for obvious reasons. Whether it takes 60 or 67 or 70 wins to get that, that's going to be the aim.

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they will be going for and likely getting that 1 seed.

>Kerr will want home court advantage throughout the play-offs
>for obvious reasons. Whether it takes 60 or 67 or 70 wins to
>get that, that's going to be the aim.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

If they stay healthy. Still not a playoff team though.

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You can win a good number of games in the NBA when you play together, plays hard, and hustle. I'll have to wait til training camp to see if this team picks up that brand of basketball but all early indications from Atkinson seem to say so. If nothing else theyll be fun to watch.

I was the one who called the Charlotte team early last year. Everyone will say that was a way more talented team, but thats in hindsight. Preseason a lot of people here and writers wrote that team off as one of the worst in the East.I dont think this team will be as good as that one, but theyll surprise everyone.

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I like Brook, Lin (hey look at that!) and Rondae but not as top starters. Booker is solid but nothing special; Scola and Foye are washed up. I'm not wild about General Greivis either. They're going to need Caris Levert to be a huge steal and, even then, the whole thing falls apart if Brook gets hurt again.

It's a bunch of guys with something to prove and Brook playing for one more contract but 30+ wins seems like a reach.

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NBA MOCK DRAFT #1 - https://thecourierclass.com/whole-shebang/2017/5/18/2017-nba-mock-draft-1-just-lotto-and-lotta-trades

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

Id love for him to have some stability and it will be fun to watch him locally, but its a scary situation.

I mean even during FA i wanted Philly more than BK, if not just cause the talented young players and draft pick situation.

Brooklyn seemed hopeless at the beginning. To me it looked like the worst roster ever andno draft pick coming in.

In the past couple months though I see the potential and like what they are building as a system with Atkinson and Marks. Two guys who are at least saying the right things about not just bringing in players, but establishing a culture.

The lineup will be interesting

Jeremy, Brook, RHJ, Bogdanovic and maybe Booker at4?


Jeremy and Brook will be able to work a lot of 1-5 Pnr and PnPop
Bogdan looked great in the Olympics so hopefully he can keep that confidence up and help spread the floor.

RHJ has a lot of room to grow offensively but does a lot on defense.

Their bench is made up of a bunch of young guys who looked solid in summer league and seem to be hungry.

Im interested to see what happnes these next 2 years.My predictionis that theyshow a lot of improvement, will be fun to watch, and will be able to rally more fans in BK -- especially with that new HSS practice facility in SUnset Park.

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"though time has passed, im still the future" (c) black thought

into what on paper looks like it should be a complete disaster, or at best will be a process of long term improvement. I am impressed. I'm a Knicks fan, so I can't exactly root for the Nets per-say, but for your benefit, I hope Lin flourishes. I'm sure I said it at the time when his contract was announced that his contract is perfect trade-bait; I dunno if that good or bad in the case for this Nets roster.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

snag another top 3 pick

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

3 or 4 good lottery pics.

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

If we can even get a 11-12 spot instead, it'll show some growth and give us better motivation. We have way too much young talent as is, no need to try to get another super young 19 year old undeveloped player and hope he lives up to his potential. That's waaaay too much.

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LOL@shots fired

those Bucks Cavs matchups should be highly entertaining

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you can't understand it with an explanation

Fuck and that. We will be 2-4 wins better than whatever they are projected to be. We made them our bitches last year. The fucking Nets is THE reason why we didn't break the record for worst record ever giving us 2 of our 10 wins.

The Nets will be our bitches made to do our bidding. They haven't improved nearly enough to escape their fate as being THE one team whose sole existence is to give us wins. They gave us 2 wins last year then watch them get close to being swept this coming season.

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"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

to 22-25 if healthy.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

i believed then, and still believe, there's no way they end up with fewest wins in the league. i figured 35-38 was where they'd be.

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this happens every year. i even heard talk of them making the conference finals either on Dunc'd on basketball or Lowe's podcast

>this happens every year. i even heard talk of them making the
>conference finals either on Dunc'd on basketball or Lowe's
>podcast

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