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"2016 NBA Free Agent Prediction Thread"
Wed Jun-08-16 12:17 PM by SoulHonky

          

Where do you think this year's free agents will go?
Where should they go?
What will they make?
What should they make?

And for some reference, since the higher salary cap is throwing salaries out of whack, some recent signings that could be benchmarks (GMs will probably use the last two; agents will throw all the others in their faces when fighting for more dough.)

Terrence Ross: 3 years, 33 million
Reggie Jackson: 5 years, 80 million
Tristan Thompson: 5 years, 80 million
Iman Shumpert: 4 years, 40 million
Greg Monroe: 3 years, 51 million
Jeremy Lamb: 3 years, 21 million
Jae Crowder: 5 years, 35 million
Draymond: 5 years, 82 million

Realistically, I'd say we're looking at a market in which:

Bonafide Starters (bigs) - 12 - 17 million
Bonafide Starters (perimeter): 11 - 16 million
Solid role players: 7 - 12 million (Maybe a little more for bigs)
End of Rotation guys: 2 - 6 million

2016 Free Agents can be found here (pay attention though because 2017 FAs are also listed.)
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12307054/nba-free-agents-2016-2017

Max Cap Space:
http://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/240096/The-Maximum-Available-2016-Cap-Space-For-All-30-NBA-Teams

One thing I would ask is that if you're going to shoot down someone's prediction, you need to come with your own prediction. No heckling from the cheap seats.

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Kevin Durant
Jun 08th 2016
1
1 year, $25 million with OKC
Jun 08th 2016
13
yup. i think he does 1 year and tests the market again in 2017.
Jun 08th 2016
29
He's not leaving OKC
Jun 08th 2016
14
I think he stays and does the money and years right now...
Jun 08th 2016
31
^^^ this. but remember, he works for Nike
Jun 08th 2016
42
      who's shoes ARE doing good right now?....
Jun 08th 2016
46
      Curry's.
Jun 08th 2016
49
      I've seen a lot of Curry's and Lebron Zoom Soldiers(if that counts)
Jun 08th 2016
78
      Curry and Lebron. Kd shoe numbers have fallen off a cliff
Jun 08th 2016
92
      those KD 9's might turn it around though
Jun 08th 2016
79
      not a big enough change from the unpopular 8 to me
Jun 25th 2016
141
      A super team with another top 5 player and a highly paid coach? Oh, wait...
Jun 25th 2016
142
Lakers after we trade for Cousins
Jun 08th 2016
47
might as well add LeBron too.
Jun 08th 2016
53
      I'd rather not
Jun 15th 2016
116
1 year max deal with OKC
Jun 08th 2016
94
i want KD to go East just to shift the balance some.
Jun 10th 2016
109
Not going to happen, but Minnesota would be awesome
Jun 10th 2016
110
breh.
Jun 20th 2016
123
      he's on a WC contender right today...
Jun 20th 2016
126
      Minnesota is in the west
Jun 20th 2016
127
      well for one thing, minnesota plays in the western conference.
Jun 21st 2016
128
      Bruh. Come on.
Jun 21st 2016
129
      damn...I was really lunchin, yall...my bad
Jun 22nd 2016
132
      .
Jun 22nd 2016
130
           wrong spot
Jun 22nd 2016
131
And his list of six is revealed.
Jun 27th 2016
147
Yeah, there's no way he signs with MIA or LAC
Jun 27th 2016
149
Dear god please NO to the Clippers.
Jun 27th 2016
152
although, I'll be sick if he leaves OKC...
Jun 27th 2016
154
KD is only meeting with the Knicks to get Hamilton tickets
Jun 27th 2016
153
Is he meeting with the knicks?
Jun 27th 2016
155
      lol, right. meeting with the Knicks = KD and Melo having lunch
Jun 27th 2016
156
           drinks at 1oak
Jun 27th 2016
157
           This off-season needs another Deandre Jordan situation...
Jun 27th 2016
158
if he's smart: 2yrs, around $45 mil (player option)...
Jun 27th 2016
161
San Antonio or OKC for 1 year.
Jun 28th 2016
165
Stay in OKC but GATDAMN do I want to see him go to the Spurs
Jun 30th 2016
179
Either 1 year deal with OKC or Golden State
Jun 30th 2016
212
Al Horford
Jun 08th 2016
2
He ain't playing in Boston just b/c of the weather
Jun 08th 2016
64
L.
Jul 02nd 2016
253
      OL
Jul 02nd 2016
254
Apparently he is #1, 2, and 3 on the Pistons list
Jun 22nd 2016
135
we gotta get a reliable backup PG too...anyone but Lin
Jun 25th 2016
137
      Id be down with that
Jun 25th 2016
138
detroit.
Jun 27th 2016
162
Deeeeeee-Troit bas-ket-balllllll
Jun 30th 2016
180
Mike Conley
Jun 08th 2016
3
Pacers
Jun 08th 2016
12
      vogel woulda loved him.
Jun 08th 2016
19
      rich man's george hill
Jun 25th 2016
143
      Conley is out of the Pacers budget as the only marquee PG
Jun 08th 2016
66
DeMar DeRozan
Jun 08th 2016
4
Toronto is gonna max him out of his mind and lose Bismack in the process
Jun 08th 2016
34
staying for the max
Jun 08th 2016
39
not going anywhere.
Jun 08th 2016
73
they would be crazy to let him walk, stays. bismack i dunno, tough call
Jun 30th 2016
203
Kent Bazemore
Jun 08th 2016
5
Nic Batum
Jun 08th 2016
6
Re: Nic Batum
Jun 08th 2016
15
smh if ya'll go from barnes to batum
Jun 08th 2016
35
depends on the price but all things equal i think batum is a better fit
Jun 30th 2016
230
Batum isn't worth dumping rotation players to max him out
Jun 08th 2016
52
He should stay in Charlotte for 5 years, 85 million
Jun 08th 2016
57
He is going to get paid, big time. Too many teams could use him
Jun 30th 2016
208
Hassan Whiteside
Jun 08th 2016
7
Lakers for the max
Jun 08th 2016
59
I think it is the worst choice but the most likely
Jun 10th 2016
106
coming to the LAKESHOW
Jun 25th 2016
140
Lakers will get him and then regret him
Jun 25th 2016
144
defense wise, you do
Jun 26th 2016
146
Rim protection, not necessarily defense overall
Jun 27th 2016
151
To be fair the FA pickings are relatively slim this year
Jun 27th 2016
148
      they look relatively thick to me
Jun 30th 2016
211
           I'm going to rephrase my definition of "thin pickings".
Jun 30th 2016
224
Some team that will soon regret it, hopefully the Lakers.
Jun 30th 2016
181
Dwight Howard
Jun 08th 2016
8
This one is tough. If Biyombo leaves the Raptors, Toronto?
Jun 08th 2016
25
Yep. And I hate to say it but I think Boston might be the best bet
Jun 08th 2016
32
RE: Yep. And I hate to say it but I think Boston might be the best bet
Jun 08th 2016
38
      Ainge and Brad want to win now
Jun 08th 2016
54
      Durant doesn't like Dwight but is buddies w/ K-Love
Jun 08th 2016
61
           Good to know.
Jun 08th 2016
62
      Who the fuck are the Bobcats??
Jun 09th 2016
98
           Old habits die hard.
Jun 09th 2016
99
           People were asking that same question when they *were* the Bobcats
Jun 30th 2016
220
They already have Jonas who's a better overall player at this point
Jun 08th 2016
55
if hes smart he goes to charlotte.
Jun 08th 2016
43
Jorn dumped Biyombo, what in the hell would he want Dwight?
Jun 08th 2016
69
ATL, TO, or DAL...
Jun 27th 2016
160
He's got lawsuits waiting on him in Atlanta. Doubt it.
Jun 30th 2016
186
I'll say Dallas, it seems like their style
Jun 30th 2016
178
Harrison Barnes (RFA)
Jun 08th 2016
9
I figure he's the one who'll follow Luke to the Lakers
Jun 08th 2016
18
Depends if the Lakers keep their pick.
Jun 08th 2016
26
i hope to god not.
Jun 08th 2016
30
Hes going to be make fine CBA fodder come next lockout season.
Jun 08th 2016
48
Should take: Warriors offer. Will take: Max money from Pelicans
Jun 08th 2016
28
agreed.
Jun 27th 2016
163
Lakers
Jun 08th 2016
50
Pelicans for the Max
Jun 08th 2016
82
what if he AND Whiteside go to the Pelicans
Jun 10th 2016
103
They'll still just be battling for a playoff spot in the West.
Jun 10th 2016
107
Why would the Pelicans want him?
Jun 10th 2016
111
They wanted Asik.
Jun 10th 2016
112
They have to dump Asik's shitty contract before they sign another Center
Jun 10th 2016
113
If he gets maxed (or overpaid in general) by the Sixers?
Jun 15th 2016
114
How much money did Barnes lose in this Finals?
Jun 20th 2016
119
The damage was done during the regular season
Jun 20th 2016
121
      If he balled in Finals, I think it would have made up for the season
Jun 20th 2016
122
           He would have been fine if the series had ended after Game 5
Jun 20th 2016
125
Stein reports that Philly is going to make a push.
Jun 28th 2016
168
you mean I could actually start calling him Southphillyman? LOL
Jun 28th 2016
169
God, I hope not.
Jun 28th 2016
170
Wherever he signs will become a house of woe and regret.
Jun 30th 2016
182
Bismack Biyombo
Jun 08th 2016
10
I'd take him on the lakers
Jun 08th 2016
17
They should definitely pursue him or Whiteside.
Jun 08th 2016
27
I think he's already said he'll take a hometown discount.
Jun 08th 2016
74
Toronto needs to resign both him & DeRozan, & get 1 FA
Jun 08th 2016
75
I am gonna go off the board and say he lands in Portland.
Jun 30th 2016
205
Bradley Beal
Jun 08th 2016
11
The Wiz will max him out: 5 years, 124 millon
Jun 08th 2016
16
poor Wiz fans :(
Jun 08th 2016
40
RE: Bradley Beal
Jun 10th 2016
105
He will stay in DC for too much money, usually a safe bet there.
Jun 30th 2016
206
Jeremy Lin
Jun 08th 2016
20
Nets
Jun 08th 2016
21
The tea owned by Lizhang Jiang
Jun 27th 2016
164
Houston Rockets
Jun 30th 2016
184
Evan Fournier (RFA)
Jun 08th 2016
They have to choose b/w him & Dipo
Jun 08th 2016
63
Sixers...some ridiculous amount over 3yrs.
Jun 09th 2016
97
Pretty obvious he will stay in Orlando now
Jun 25th 2016
145
Rajon Rondo
Jun 08th 2016
22
Knicks
Jun 08th 2016
23
Yeah, Knicks or Nets.
Jun 08th 2016
37
      Hornacek runs a PnR HEAVY offense which doesn't suit Rondo
Jun 08th 2016
67
           rondo's not a pnr point guard????
Jun 08th 2016
70
           You don't remember the Celtics ran the Run 'n Shoot with 4 wrs?
Jun 08th 2016
71
           lol
Jun 08th 2016
80
           The Kings offense was BETTER w/ Darren Collison on the floor
Jun 08th 2016
85
                In general, Rondo's all flash and little help in terms of winning
Jun 08th 2016
87
                Lol the mavs wanted the ball OUT of rondo hands
Jun 08th 2016
88
                     They wanted him to SHARE the ball & he REFUSED to run the sets
Jun 08th 2016
90
                          As long as you ca me off that stupid pnr statement we cool.
Jun 08th 2016
93
                               Good luck running a PnR w/ a non-shooter who has lost his burst
Jun 09th 2016
96
           The Celtics offense was HORRIFIC in '09-'10 w/ Rondo at the helm
Jun 08th 2016
76
                in 09-10 they won 50 games, went to the finals and was 15th in Offense.
Jun 08th 2016
77
                     I'm pretty sure it wasn't their DEFENSE that carried 'em to the Finals
Jun 08th 2016
84
                          So 15th in offense is horrific....noted.
Jun 08th 2016
89
                               It's horrific for a championship team w/ the likes of KG/Pierce/Ray
Jun 08th 2016
91
           DUDE
Jun 08th 2016
86
Cavs...I'm joking....sorta
Jun 08th 2016
33
      lol
Jun 08th 2016
36
      https://celticsdownunder.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/sam_rondo8.jpg
Jun 08th 2016
72
           lolz @ that smirk
Jun 08th 2016
81
           hey, man...L.O.X. made up with Puffy
Jun 08th 2016
83
Lebron James
Jun 08th 2016
24
Sixers
Jun 08th 2016
95
      they'd have a better chance of getting Trinidad James
Jun 10th 2016
108
Dwayne Wade
Jun 08th 2016
41
3 will retire with the Heat on his chest
Jun 08th 2016
44
I don't doubt that.
Jun 08th 2016
45
      Bosh puts the Heat in a tough predicament.
Jun 08th 2016
51
           Just so folks are aware: I don't think Wade will leave.
Jun 08th 2016
56
                I don't think there's anything Riley can do re: Bosh.
Jun 08th 2016
58
                yeah riles hands are pretty much tied unless he wanted to play dirty.
Jun 08th 2016
65
                well, he better damn well take a pay cut...
Jun 08th 2016
60
                     I thought the word among the Heat
Jun 08th 2016
68
                          Whiteside has become an enigma
Jun 15th 2016
117
                               I think only Popp can get through to him...
Jun 25th 2016
136
                                    I honestly won't be shocked if he becomes another Bynum
Jun 27th 2016
150
Not sure if it's a bargaining ploy but talks have stalled
Jun 29th 2016
173
      Where else would be a good fit for him?
Jun 30th 2016
202
           Wade might be best in a 6 man role at this point.
Jun 30th 2016
204
                He'd fit in nicely with the Clippers
Jun 30th 2016
217
                     pairing him in the starting lineup with cp3 and blake is unnecessary
Jun 30th 2016
222
                          RE: pairing him in the starting lineup with cp3 and blake is unnecessary...
Jun 30th 2016
228
Ryan Anderson is about to get the Rashard Lewis max money
Jun 09th 2016
100
You think? I thought the Pelicans situation exposed him.
Jun 09th 2016
101
      I'm pretty sure he's on D'Antoni's wish list
Jun 10th 2016
102
           smh
Jun 10th 2016
104
Pau
Jun 15th 2016
115
He's a diva who doesn't want to come off the bench
Jun 15th 2016
118
he wanna start, be on a contender and get paid
Jun 20th 2016
120
Maybe the toughest one to call, seems to be pretty fussy.
Jun 30th 2016
216
I'm hoping JR Smith can FINALLY get paid what he's worth.
Jun 20th 2016
124
what he's worth.
Jun 22nd 2016
133
Deron Williams...lol
Jun 22nd 2016
134
He's re-signing if the Mavs miss out on Conley
Jun 25th 2016
139
Lance Stephenson
Jun 27th 2016
159
Andrew Nicholson
Jun 28th 2016
166
Jared Sullinger
Jun 28th 2016
167
Jarrett Jack
Jun 28th 2016
171
ya know what...assuming we don't get Pau, i think i'd be aight with
Jun 29th 2016
172
You talking yourself into this aren't you?
Jun 29th 2016
174
      yup i'm getting ready to accept it. I never hated dwight as much
Jun 29th 2016
175
           I hope to hell not
Jun 29th 2016
177
Scrubby Ass Gunner
Jun 29th 2016
176
The Bulls front office can't be that stupid
Jun 30th 2016
200
Word is Noah to the Knicks for 18 million a year
Jun 30th 2016
183
Lmao. Staps gonna be lucky to average 8 shots a game
Jun 30th 2016
187
Why?
Jun 30th 2016
188
yeah, why?
Jun 30th 2016
191
      lmao, cmon man.
Jun 30th 2016
197
           its ridiculous that you posted this after the noah post like 8-10 shots
Jun 30th 2016
199
           you haven't watched noah recently.
Jun 30th 2016
218
           *checks data* yeah, u right.
Jun 30th 2016
236
           Noah gets his on offensive rebounds and tip ins.
Jun 30th 2016
241
           and melo deferred to him last year as well
Jun 30th 2016
242
18 million? why feel why?
Jun 30th 2016
189
You think its an overpay?
Jun 30th 2016
190
      yeah, Noah is 31 coming off injury and 2 bad seasons
Jun 30th 2016
192
           we gone politely disagree on that
Jun 30th 2016
226
                well this part is facts
Jun 30th 2016
229
One less Bull for Thibs to overpay
Jun 30th 2016
193
lol
Jun 30th 2016
194
If it's a multi-year deal
Jun 30th 2016
198
Rose is on a one-year
Jun 30th 2016
227
Equals about 13.5 on the old cap...length of contract is the key here
Jun 30th 2016
231
      agreed but i assumed its gonna be 3-4.
Jun 30th 2016
233
           Per Alan Hahn
Jun 30th 2016
235
                are you talking about this tweet or did he say more?
Jun 30th 2016
238
                     No
Jun 30th 2016
250
                          got you
Jun 30th 2016
251
Oladipo, Russ, KD, Tito Horford, Adams...make it so, Presti...
Jun 30th 2016
185
wait i thought you were a celtics fan
Jun 30th 2016
210
      lol...no, man. I like Rondo, but beyond that...naw...
Jun 30th 2016
215
Marc Stein on Lebatard right now saying Whiteside is gonna be a Maverick...
Jun 30th 2016
195
whiteside is such a maverick type move.
Jun 30th 2016
196
Riley is an interesting dude.
Jun 30th 2016
201
bc whiteside is a headcase allegedly and Wade ain't a number 1
Jun 30th 2016
207
Lebetard says he thinks the whole Wade thing was thought up by...
Jun 30th 2016
Lebetard says he thinks the whole Wade thing was thought up by...
Jun 30th 2016
214
      Sounds like LeBetard is trolling for Miami radio ratings
Jun 30th 2016
219
           you don't think Lebron and Wade are sitting around talking about their.....
Jun 30th 2016
234
                Consider the source of that rumor
Jun 30th 2016
244
Mavs will definitely get a C, I was thinking Howard but HW makes sense
Jun 30th 2016
209
additionally...Whiteside is saying he wants his deal done tomorrow...
Jun 30th 2016
213
that seems kinda stupid to me, especially this year
Jun 30th 2016
221
so many ways for players to eat this offseason.
Jun 30th 2016
223
wouldn't surprise me if it's Whiteside's agent that's being pressed
Jun 30th 2016
225
      If he's getting the max, why wait?
Jun 30th 2016
232
           right. he prolly don't want an owner to pull a deandre lol
Jun 30th 2016
239
           Unless Whiteside is from Dallas
Jun 30th 2016
243
                I'm sure they've discussed the other potential options
Jun 30th 2016
246
                he's been trying to get his big break for so long he just tryna get
Jun 30th 2016
248
Has Justise Winslow tweeted any cryptic bananaboat emojis about it?
Jun 30th 2016
237
NBA shortened moratorium period to 5 days btw
Jun 30th 2016
240
Terrence Jones is officially FREE....hey everybody....hey everybody
Jun 30th 2016
245
I'd love Boston to go after him as a Sully replacement.
Jun 30th 2016
247
      Nothing but upside. He just has to stay healthy.
Jun 30th 2016
249
Timofey Mozgov offered 4/65 by the Lakers, allegedly
Jul 01st 2016
252

SoulHonky
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1. "Kevin Durant"
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Start with the obvious one.

My pick is:

He will: sign with the Thunder for the max.

He should: as much as I want to say sign with the Celtics, I think staying in OK City is probably he best play.

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Kungset
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13. "1 year, $25 million with OKC"
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29. "yup. i think he does 1 year and tests the market again in 2017."
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the NBA landscape should be a little more clear by then.

  

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14. "He's not leaving OKC"
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It will be for the max. I don't it will be for the maximum amount of years or a two-year contract with a one-year option. But regardless, he will get paid the maximum amount that he can. And he should.

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31. "I think he stays and does the money and years right now..."
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he just strikes me as that kind of dude.

  

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42. "^^^ this. but remember, he works for Nike"
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Nike needs him to be back at the forefront after all that money they gave him. his shoe line is floundering badly. putting him on a superteam and giving his brand a refresh might be the jumpstart they need.

but i expect, and hope he stays with OKC.

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46. "who's shoes ARE doing good right now?...."
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and I don't mean that facetiously, either. Anyone's shoe line doing good numbers, right now?

  

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49. "Curry's."
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78. "I've seen a lot of Curry's and Lebron Zoom Soldiers(if that counts)"
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for this past season. Definitely saw a lot of Kyrie 1's last year, not so much with the 2's this year though.

That's about it for the signature models.

  

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92. "Curry and Lebron. Kd shoe numbers have fallen off a cliff"
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That's why nike is dropping the price on his shoes like $40 for the new model this year

Nike is expecting Bron numbers from KD. IIRC he might not even be doing kobe numbers

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79. "those KD 9's might turn it around though"
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They look/sound like they're going to be great to play in, and they look a lot better than his last couple models IMO. Plus they're $150, not $180 like the 8's were.

  

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141. "not a big enough change from the unpopular 8 to me"
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i get that they re-designed the upper and the zoom air unit but the last is the same. they also can't seem to figure out wtf they want to do with the whole regular/elite contrast. line is weird and needs more stability. starting at $85 and going to $200 was also puzzling. needs to establish an identity, or maybe just a better identity.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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ConcreteCharlie
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142. "A super team with another top 5 player and a highly paid coach? Oh, wait..."
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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Cold Truth
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47. "Lakers after we trade for Cousins"
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53. "might as well add LeBron too."
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Cold Truth
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116. "I'd rather not"
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94. "1 year max deal with OKC"
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And then sign a max contract next year with the new cap....where depends on how the team does.

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109. "i want KD to go East just to shift the balance some."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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110. "Not going to happen, but Minnesota would be awesome"
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KAT and Wiggins are on rookie contracts, you've got a pass-first point guard in Rubio, and the #5 pick (flip for a veteran?).

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123. "breh."
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2532848&mesg_id=2532848#2533379

almost zero chance of actually happening, but man would it be fun. i still think it's his best option by far.

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126. "he's on a WC contender right today..."
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Minny is the conference currently owned by Lebron. How is it the best option?

  

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127. "Minnesota is in the west"
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If Durant wants a longer window, he can sign with Minny while Wiggins and KAT are on rookie deals. Sure Westbrook is a top-level talent, but I don't think OKC with Durant is *that* much better than Minnesota with Durant.

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dula dibiasi
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128. "well for one thing, minnesota plays in the western conference."
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and secondly, if there is a better available situation, for a elite scorer squarely in his prime, than playing with --

21 yr old andrew wiggins (#1 pick, ROTY)
20 yr old karl towns (#1 pick, ROTY)
25 yr old ricky rubio (2nd best passer on the league behind chris paul)
#5 pick TBD on deck
and Thibs 2.0

-- for the next 5-10 yrs, I'd sure like to know what it is.



>Minny is the conference currently owned by Lebron. How is it
>the best option?

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Cold Truth
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129. "Bruh. Come on. "
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132. "damn...I was really lunchin, yall...my bad"
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130. "."
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131. "wrong spot"
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SoulHonky
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147. "And his list of six is revealed."
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Thunder, Warriors, Spurs, Celtics, Heat and Clippers.

The Clippers are an interesting addition. Not quite sure how they make that work financially. Either Blake is out or KD is taking less money for a year.

Kind of surprised the Heat made the list. But, then again, heading to the East makes sense. Just didn't think that he'd want to follow in LeBron's footsteps. Also, Bosh's health and Whiteside's free agency makes the roster somewhat of an unknown.

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149. "Yeah, there's no way he signs with MIA or LAC"
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Boston's probably a longshot, unless he REALLY wants to play in the Eastern Conference.

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152. "Dear god please NO to the Clippers. "
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I'm happy to see them competitive.

As long as they don't get *too* competitive.

  

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154. "although, I'll be sick if he leaves OKC..."
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I can live with any of those except GS. Just don't/can't see him going that route. GS was 1 game from winning the Finals. They don't need a player of his caliber to get over the hump, IMO...and for him, it looks like he's jumping on an already built winner, not coming to be the guy to take a team where they wanna go.

  

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153. "KD is only meeting with the Knicks to get Hamilton tickets"
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said someone on twitter...haha

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155. "Is he meeting with the knicks? "
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Or just hanging out with Melo? LOL
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156. "lol, right. meeting with the Knicks = KD and Melo having lunch"
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157. "drinks at 1oak"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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158. "This off-season needs another Deandre Jordan situation..."
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Melo convincing KD into signing the deal at some BK hookah spot at 4am.

Then KD regretting it.
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161. "if he's smart: 2yrs, around $45 mil (player option)..."
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..to stay and okc one more year, then reevaluate all over again next summer.

okc has already given him all the leverage he needs. i still think they'll ultimately loose both durant and westbrook, but at least this give them one last shot @ winning it all for okc.

*as much as i'd love to have durant as a laker, i don't see him starting over just yet. his approach would be similar to the stance mentioned regarding okc (but i doubt the lakers would take that bait again, after the howard fiasco).


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


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165. "San Antonio or OKC for 1 year."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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179. "Stay in OKC but GATDAMN do I want to see him go to the Spurs"
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That would be a thing of beauty.

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212. "Either 1 year deal with OKC or Golden State"
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He should reup with OKC then take the $251.7 offer from the Thunder then again he has to live in Oklahoma City and fuck your Cleveland hate. I'd want $251.7 million somewhere like Portland or Washington or Detroit or Atlanta.

If he goes to Golden State then this "decision" is more impactful than anyone else's in league history. Losing to a team that beat your team then joining them as a superstar in this league is a bad look.

  

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2. "Al Horford"
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I think he should: Sign with the Celtics for a little less than the max to help build a better team, attract other players.

I think he will: sign with Phoenix for the max. Probably dumb to leave the East but Phoenix has a big man in Chandler which will allow Al to play his preferred PF spot. They also have solid guard play and a high pick they could use to acquire another veteran to make a push next year.

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64. "He ain't playing in Boston just b/c of the weather"
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>I think he should: Sign with the Celtics for a little less
>than the max to help build a better team, attract other
>players.
>
>I think he will: sign with Phoenix for the max. Probably dumb
>to leave the East but Phoenix has a big man in Chandler which
>will allow Al to play his preferred PF spot. They also have
>solid guard play and a high pick they could use to acquire
>another veteran to make a push next year.

If Riley could dump Bosh's contract, he would have ended up in Miami but I except the Rockets to make a run at him since he fits D'Antoni's system.

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253. "L."
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254. "OL"
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135. "Apparently he is #1, 2, and 3 on the Pistons list"
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Cant max him (probably not even close) but apparently he is legit interested im a homecoming

Jackson, KCP, Harris, Horford, Drummond, Morris, Johnson...

I dont want to get my hopes up, but thats a real contender

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137. "we gotta get a reliable backup PG too...anyone but Lin "
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>Cant max him (probably not even close) but apparently he is
>legit interested im a homecoming
>
>Jackson, KCP, Harris, Horford, Drummond, Morris, Johnson...
>
>I dont want to get my hopes up, but thats a real contender
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>


MCW would be nice actually.

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138. "Id be down with that"
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As long as we had a shooter at the 4 on the floor with him

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162. "detroit."
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*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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180. "Deeeeeee-Troit bas-ket-balllllll"
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3. "Mike Conley"
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12. "Pacers"
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(or resigns with Memphis..I dont see him going to any "big market" team)

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19. "vogel woulda loved him."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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143. "rich man's george hill"
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66. "Conley is out of the Pacers budget as the only marquee PG"
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I could see Bird trading Hill for Teague.

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4. "DeMar DeRozan"
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34. "Toronto is gonna max him out of his mind and lose Bismack in the process"
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39. "staying for the max"
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73. "not going anywhere."
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203. "they would be crazy to let him walk, stays. bismack i dunno, tough call"
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on one hand that he might bring to the table is appealing, on the other hand paying him a max deal for it is repugnant. kinda bad timing, you wish he broke out a year earlier so they'd have had more options.

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5. "Kent Bazemore"
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6. "Nic Batum"
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15. "Re: Nic Batum"
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Well, if Barnes leaves the Dubs, then Batum should come here. He'd fit in great. But barring that, he should probably stay in Charlotte, as they've got a lot of upside, and it would keep him in the East. I could see him ending up with the Clippers or Spurs though

Will make: Probably the max.

Should make: Probably a little less.

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35. "smh if ya'll go from barnes to batum"
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230. "depends on the price but all things equal i think batum is a better fit"
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i agree with filf though that if they have to lose livingston or another good player, it's not worth it.

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52. "Batum isn't worth dumping rotation players to max him out"
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>Well, if Barnes leaves the Dubs, then Batum should come here.
>He'd fit in great.

It would require freeing up about 5 mills to max out Batum that means dumping Livingston which is not worth it. Otherwise, Bogut is another candidate assuming Ezeli re-signs.

He mentioned that he likes having the ball in his hands & playing point-forward so he probably won't be happy playing the Barnes role which is something he complained about in Portland.

>But barring that, he should probably stay
>in Charlotte, as they've got a lot of upside, and it would
>keep him in the East.

He should probably stay there since he will even get more playmaking duties assuming they lose Jeremy & they can give him a 5 year deal.

>I could see him ending up with the
>Clippers or Spurs though

-Clippers are maxed out & only have the MLE to offer.
-Spurs could do it but he would have to come off the bench & play the Iggy role.

He could sign w/ the Hawks since they need a wing defender but they already have two point guards fighting over the ball.

>Will make: Probably the max.
>
>Should make: Probably a little less.

He already has a 5 yr max from the Hornets waiting for him at the table.

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57. "He should stay in Charlotte for 5 years, 85 million"
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I could see someone offering him the max and him taking it but either way, I think Charlotte bites the bullet and keeps him. Next year, their small ball lineup with Batum and Gilly the Kidd at the forward spots could help them improve.

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208. "He is going to get paid, big time. Too many teams could use him"
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If you're looking at the prospect of facing LeBron, KD, Kawhi and PG and you don't have one of those four guys, Batum is pretty attractive, no? Those power 3s are so big in today's NBA and matching up with them is becoming increasingly coveted. I wouldn't be shocked if he stays in Charlotte but I also think better teams will pursue him. If he takes a patient approach to FAgency, he could become a rich man in a good situation.

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7. "Hassan Whiteside"
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59. "Lakers for the max"
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106. "I think it is the worst choice but the most likely"
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Would prefer to see him on a team with veteran leadership but the Lakers seem like they'll be too appealing. Also, if and when they whiff on the bigger names, they'll go all in on Whiteside.

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140. "coming to the LAKESHOW"
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144. "Lakers will get him and then regret him"
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This is not a guy I would want to sink a bunch of money/faith into.

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146. "defense wise, you do"
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151. "Rim protection, not necessarily defense overall"
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At least not every game.

  

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148. "To be fair the FA pickings are relatively slim this year "
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Particularly for a team like ours. After KD and Brawn, there are no max players this season though there will be a handful of max deals handed out.

Guys like Horford aren't really max players but will get maxed and would be worth that money for certain teams and he's certainly not coming to a team like the Lakers.

I'm fine with Whiteside considering he fills a need and there simply aren't any great options. The only center I'd like over him is Drummond and he's not going anywhere. Given the circumstances Whiteside is a decent calculated risk with relatively minimal downside.

With the cap jump next year plus the fact that he's on the low end of the max scale at 21.5. After that I'd like to see them load up on veterans on very short term deals. Since we have to spend most of our money anyways I don't care if we give 3-4 guys fat one year deals to give us flexibility in the next two years.

  

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211. "they look relatively thick to me"
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first of all, to have one guy like kd potentially available is like a once in five years thing, if not more. from there, lots more guys are gonna test the market that normally wouldn't because of the number of options out there. i also think a max player is a guy with a max contract, period. there is a lot being made of teams spending up to the floor, but as the sixers proved, you don't have to do that. paying the penalty means nothing, except that you didn't have to commit that money in the future and cut off your options.

so i think it's a pretty good free agent market overall. i agree with you that there are not a lot of options for the lakers, but that'd be true in a weak ass free agent year (e.g. Brand/Davis year) or a real strong one (Bron/Amare year). they are just not in a position to appeal to veteran players and that's fine. they have a good opportunity to build the traditional way.

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224. "I'm going to rephrase my definition of "thin pickings". "
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>first of all, to have one guy like kd potentially available
>is like a once in five years thing, if not more.

One guy for everyone to fight over. That makes it top heavy, not deep.

>I also
>think a max player is a guy with a max contract, period.

Come on, we both know there are definite distinctions there. All max players aren't equal and when people use that phrase they're clearly referring to those discrepancies. I.e, KD and Horford will both get max money but there's a massive gap between the two.

>is a lot being made of teams spending up to the floor, but as
>the sixers proved, you don't have to do that. paying the
>penalty means nothing, except that you didn't have to commit
>that money in the future and cut off your options.

Didn't really factor that option actually, so yeah. I suppose there is that.

>so i think it's a pretty good free agent market overall.

>agree with you that there are not a lot of options for the
>lakers, but that'd be true in a weak ass free agent year (e.g.
>Brand/Davis year) or a real strong one (Bron/Amare year). they
>are just not in a position to appeal to veteran players and
>that's fine. they have a good opportunity to build the
>traditional way.

Ah ok. This was basically my response. There are plenty of quality pieces for good teams. It's just really, really thin for a team like ours. That's why I'm an advocate for simply giving quality veterans a fat check for the short term. We still need some guys to help the youngsters develop, particularly since we don't really know what any of them actually are just yet.

  

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181. "Some team that will soon regret it, hopefully the Lakers."
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8. "Dwight Howard"
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25. "This one is tough. If Biyombo leaves the Raptors, Toronto?"
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32. "Yep. And I hate to say it but I think Boston might be the best bet"
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I think Ainge gives him a short term max deal.

Maybe the Bobcats? Or ATL if Horford walks?

He should: Take less money and sign with the Blazers.

He will: either go to Boston of, if the Wiz are as dumb as I think, end up being their big ticket item this offseason. They'll look to deal Gortat for a stretch four or send him to Houston in a sign and trade.

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38. "RE: Yep. And I hate to say it but I think Boston might be the best bet"
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>I think Ainge gives him a short term max deal.

Given Howard's age and history of getting hurt and where Boston is right now with their current roster, I don't see this being a good fit. He won't give them enough of a push for the amount of cash they'll have to give up. Plus him mentally shrinking in Boston like he's done in other spots will not go over so well assuming he'll get max dollars.

>Maybe the Bobcats? Or ATL if Horford walks?

On paper Atlanta makes sense since they seem like a non-frills version of the Magic when he went he took them to the Finals; even better since he'll have Paul Milsap on the roster. Perhaps Milsap will teach him how to operate on the post with some consistency? Scratch that, but that seems like the best fit. And that team will be a great fit since there won't be too much pressure on him.

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54. "Ainge and Brad want to win now"
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They want to pull another move of getting one star like Howard, Love, or Horford to help attract the big name - Durant.

Even if they don't land Durant, I think they would prefer to land some vets rather than rookies. And it's not like Isaiah and AB are THAT young.

I could see them signing Howard, using the #3 and Amir to land someone and hoping that's enough to land Durant.

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61. "Durant doesn't like Dwight but is buddies w/ K-Love"
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>They want to pull another move of getting one star like
>Howard, Love, or Horford to help attract the big name -
>Durant.

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62. "Good to know."
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Kevin Love it is!

Although I'd still rather not have either of them. Horford's probably my #2 FA/trade option after Durant (and maybe Big Cuz, but I like Boogie more than I should.)

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98. "Who the fuck are the Bobcats??"
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REALLY YALL??

  

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99. "Old habits die hard."
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For some reason, that one is ingrained in my head. I never liked the name and wanted them to be the Hornets and now I can't stop remembering them as the Bobcats.

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220. "People were asking that same question when they *were* the Bobcats"
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ain't nobody checking for name changes of irrelevant franchises, B. people still gonna be calling the coyotes "phoenix" instead of "arizona" ten years from now, too. big whoop, wanna fight about it?

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55. "They already have Jonas who's a better overall player at this point"
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43. "if hes smart he goes to charlotte."
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69. "Jorn dumped Biyombo, what in the hell would he want Dwight?"
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Frank the Skank & Zeller are gonna have to earn their money. The only one getting paid is Batum & maybe Marvin.

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160. "ATL, TO, or DAL..."
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186. "He's got lawsuits waiting on him in Atlanta. Doubt it. "
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178. "I'll say Dallas, it seems like their style"
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9. "Harrison Barnes (RFA)"
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18. "I figure he's the one who'll follow Luke to the Lakers"
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Should go: The Lakers aren't a bad spot for him, but if he wants to have a better chance of winning now, he should go to the Celtics or the Pistons.

Will make: Someone will pay him the max.

Should make: Well, he didn't have that good of a year, though he's looked good these last two games. But given the market, I guess 5 years at $70 million is "fair." Or four years at $60 million. Both will be a pay cut as what the Dubs already offered him.

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26. "Depends if the Lakers keep their pick."
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I struggle to imagine them maxing Barnes if they're drafting Ingram.

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30. "i hope to god not."
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that's my tar heel but man i will be ready to jump if we give him a max.

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48. "Hes going to be make fine CBA fodder come next lockout season."
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As owners blame the players for owners overspending on players.

He's a basic three and d guy that should be had for a third of the max at most.

  

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28. "Should take: Warriors offer. Will take: Max money from Pelicans"
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It is a fair money offer and we know the fit works but the kid is going to get offered a ton more money so I think he's gone.

The draft could take the Lakers out of the running if they land Ingram. If Batum leaves the Bobcats, I could see them throwing money at Barnes.

A max offer from the Blazers could be interesting with Lillard and CJ as a talented guard duo that would allow Barnes to see an expanded but not altogether different role. I just don't think Olshey will pay him the max.

The worst place would be Washington since he'd spend the next five years being "Not Kevin Durant".

But I'm going to guess a max deal with the Pelicans. His best chance to get paid and be more of The Man on offense while not having to handle the entire spotlight of being the #1 guy on the team.

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163. "agreed."
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50. "Lakers"
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hopefully bringing Ezeli.

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82. "Pelicans for the Max"
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I think Gentry will push for this

  

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103. "what if he AND Whiteside go to the Pelicans"
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107. "They'll still just be battling for a playoff spot in the West."
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I like Barnes and Whiteside but those are two max deals that could have AD leaving Nawlins at the end of his contract. Very good but not great and great is what ideally I'd say my max money for.

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111. "Why would the Pelicans want him? "
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112. "They wanted Asik."
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I don't think Whiteside makes a ton of sense there but I also don't think Demps' tenure has made a ton of sense.

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113. "They have to dump Asik's shitty contract before they sign another Center"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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114. "If he gets maxed (or overpaid in general) by the Sixers? "
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He is OFFICIALLY SouthPhillyMan.

  

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119. "How much money did Barnes lose in this Finals?"
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Does someone still pay him the max? The Warriors offer that he turned down seems like something he'd be happy with after his performance.

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121. "The damage was done during the regular season"
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I still figure all any of this cost him was a max deal with a good team. He can (and probably will) get a max deal with a bad one.

Should have taken the Dubs offer while he could tho...

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122. "If he balled in Finals, I think it would have made up for the season"
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But the Finals went down almost as badly as possible for him.

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125. "He would have been fine if the series had ended after Game 5"
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He'd been pretty good in games 1, 3, & 4. If he'd played poorly but the Warriors had still won Game 5, he might have had a good shot to sign with a good team for a lot of money.

Pretty clearly the Dray suspension was Barnes' undoing, as well as the Dub's.

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168. "Stein reports that Philly is going to make a push."
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"The Sixers plan to be serious suitors for Golden State restricted free agent Harrison Barnes at the start of free agency, league sources say"

Makes some sense. Force the Warriors' hand as they hope Durant signs. I don't think he's worth it but they have money to spend.

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169. "you mean I could actually start calling him Southphillyman? LOL"
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170. "God, I hope not. "
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HB in that system making what's he making is perfect.

Somewhere else making 3x that money is sketchy.

Doing it here...Nah, son. It'll be all good until 20 games into the season when people realize he's better as a small ball 4, he has no handle or much off the bounce game, and how limited he is when teams don't have to account for steph or klay. There will be no mercy and he'll still have 3yrs to go.

Pass. They're better off signinga bunch of dudes to 1-2 yr overpriced deals.




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182. "Wherever he signs will become a house of woe and regret."
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I'll say the Nyets, because why not? Lots of bad organizations will line up to make this mistake. If he goes to a good org, I predict it will be Miami, and that's one place he might actually do well.

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10. "Bismack Biyombo"
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17. "I'd take him on the lakers"
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but I think he'll stay.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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27. "They should definitely pursue him or Whiteside."
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Or, push comes to shove, Horford.

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74. "I think he's already said he'll take a hometown discount."
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So...I doubt he leaves.

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75. "Toronto needs to resign both him & DeRozan, & get 1 FA"
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at least, so they can compete with next year's re-upped Cleveland team.

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205. "I am gonna go off the board and say he lands in Portland."
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He fits with what they are doing in terms of age (he is 23, they want guys like 23-26) and he definitely fills a need for them. If they weren't a little light in the ass, they'd be a real problem. Got great play from the perimeter last year but had to kind of scrape it together inside. They also have the money to make it happen, in fact they could sign him and another big pretty big name FA if they wanted to.

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11. "Bradley Beal"
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thin market for shooting guards and the Wiz wanting to keep their young back court together means max or near max deal despite injuries and sub-20ppg scoring avg.

5 yrs- $19-21 million per.
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16. "The Wiz will max him out: 5 years, 124 millon"
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Maybe with a team option on the 5th year.

But I think that's crazy. He should get the Jackson/Draymond 5 years, 80+ million. Again, with a team option on the final year because lord knows if he'll ever stay healthy. Could be another Eric Gordon.

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40. "poor Wiz fans :("
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105. "RE: Bradley Beal"
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This makes me sad...Juwan Howard situation all over again

  

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206. "He will stay in DC for too much money, usually a safe bet there."
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20. "Jeremy Lin"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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21. "Nets"
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164. "The tea owned by Lizhang Jiang"
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No

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184. "Houston Rockets"
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<-Fear Ameer

  

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"Evan Fournier (RFA)"


          

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63. "They have to choose b/w him & Dipo"
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97. "Sixers...some ridiculous amount over 3yrs. "
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145. "Pretty obvious he will stay in Orlando now"
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22. "Rajon Rondo"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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23. "Knicks"
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37. "Yeah, Knicks or Nets."
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Hard to judge the Nets since they have a new GM but they are desperate for a PG and they can't tank.

I think he'd prefer to go to NY; just not sure how he fits with what Horny wants to do.

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67. "Hornacek runs a PnR HEAVY offense which doesn't suit Rondo"
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>I think he'd prefer to go to NY; just not sure how he fits
>with what Horny wants to do.

Jeremy makes more sense for the Knicks than Rondo who could help the Jazz as a game manager.

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70. "rondo's not a pnr point guard????"
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71. "You don't remember the Celtics ran the Run 'n Shoot with 4 wrs?"
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80. "lol"
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85. "The Kings offense was BETTER w/ Darren Collison on the floor"
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Last time Rondo tried to run an offense that HEAVILY relied on PnR/PnP, he ruined what was at that time the #1 ranked offense.

Dude couldn't make it work w/ Dirk but should excel w/ Zings, RIGHT?

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87. "In general, Rondo's all flash and little help in terms of winning"
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He's the PG version of Kevin Love in that way.

I wouldn't be completely stunned if he was one of those guys who was without a team for a while. So many teams are already set at PG and while he was a good soldier in Sacramento, the mayhem probably there didn't help wash enough of the stink from his Dallas stint off.

The thing he has going for him is that it's a weak PG crop this year.

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88. "Lol the mavs wanted the ball OUT of rondo hands"
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Not sure how he's supposed to run the pick and roll without the ball.

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90. "They wanted him to SHARE the ball & he REFUSED to run the sets"
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>Not sure how he's supposed to run the pick and roll without
>the ball.

His usage rate was the SAME as his usuage rate in 2009-10.

In any case, I'm pretty sure Melo is going to be standing in the corner w/ a smile on his face while Rondo surveys the ball for 15 seconds until someone is in a scoring position.

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93. "As long as you ca me off that stupid pnr statement we cool."
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96. "Good luck running a PnR w/ a non-shooter who has lost his burst "
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In Boston, he ran HIGH pick-and-pops w/ KG & used illegal screens to get into the paint against backpedaling bigs. Otherwise, he held the ball until Ray got free & gave him the ball in his shooting pocket.

Who in the hell was the roll man in Boston? Perkins? LMAO!

Kobe was sitting in the paint daring him to shoot in Gm 7 of the Finals for a reason. Dude's greatest achievement came against the Heat feasting on backpedaling Haslem/Joel Anthony when Bosh out for the majority of the series.

Now, he can't even consistently beat backpedaling bigs b/c he doesn't have the jets. Not to mention teams aren't playing the likes of Joel Anthony at center in 2016.

I'm convinced the 2011 series has a lot of sway for Knicks fans when none other than Amare was the rim protector.

He's best suited for a running team where he can grab the board to initiate fastbreaks & use his court vision to find streaking teammates ala Kidd w/ the Nets. If you put him on OKC, moved Russ to the 2-guard position & turned them into a running team then they might be able to get over the hump.

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76. "The Celtics offense was HORRIFIC in '09-'10 w/ Rondo at the helm"
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Dude doesn't have the jets to get into the lane & is basically a game manager at this point as far as half-court offense is concerned. If he played defense like pre-2010 then that would be one thing.

It took PRIME KG/Pierce/Ray to cover up his deficiencies & once they declined 2009-12 happened.

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77. "in 09-10 they won 50 games, went to the finals and was 15th in Offense."
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84. "I'm pretty sure it wasn't their DEFENSE that carried 'em to the Finals"
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Gm 6 of the 2010 Finals was the worst offensive performance by a Finals team since the Jazz in Gm 3 of the '98 Finals & it came against a Lakers team that wasn't exactly an all-time defense (they gave up 112 pts per 100 poss to Carlos Boozer & the Jazz in the 2nd rd).

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89. "So 15th in offense is horrific....noted."
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91. "It's horrific for a championship team w/ the likes of KG/Pierce/Ray"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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86. "DUDE"
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33. "Cavs...I'm joking....sorta"
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36. "lol"
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72. "https://celticsdownunder.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/sam_rondo8.jpg"
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https://celticsdownunder.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/sam_rondo8.jpg

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81. "lolz @ that smirk"
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83. "hey, man...L.O.X. made up with Puffy"
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24. "Lebron James"
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95. "Sixers"
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108. "they'd have a better chance of getting Trinidad James"
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41. "Dwayne Wade"
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Mainly curious how much scratch Riles will want to give him this go around.

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44. "3 will retire with the Heat on his chest"
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45. "I don't doubt that."
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I'm mainly curious what his contract will look like.

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51. "Bosh puts the Heat in a tough predicament."
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If he's done, which I think he might be with his condition, he needs to retire. If he does, I think that wipes his salary off of the books.

Deng is a FA so unless Wade takes a Dirk-like pay cut, it'll be hard for them to add much to the team.

If Bosh retires and his money is off the books, it's a whole new ball game for Miami.

But, yeah, I'd be pretty stunned if Wade left Miami.

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56. "Just so folks are aware: I don't think Wade will leave."
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Like I said in the prior responses, I'm mainly curious what his next contract will look like. Will he want max dollars again or will he take a pay cut in the hope he'll free up scratch for the Heat to improve and take a seat next to the Raptors and the second best in the East.

Given how much Bosh wanted to return just for this postseason run, I'd be surprised if he retires. His situation does provide some intrigue; does Riley show allegiance and welcome Bosh with open arms or does he show allegiance to Miami's salary cap?

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58. "I don't think there's anything Riley can do re: Bosh."
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If Bosh doesn't retire, he's on the book. And I'm not sure there's any way to force him into a medical retirement without his consent. And I doubt anyone is going to trade for him given the uncertainty.

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65. "yeah riles hands are pretty much tied unless he wanted to play dirty."
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60. "well, he better damn well take a pay cut..."
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he knows they have to sign Whiteside. Wade ain't hurtin for dough and there's no way he can legit think he's a max guy at this point. Bosh is tricky, because I feel like it's less about allegiance and more about "can this guy play professional basketball anymore"....and by WHO POWER.

  

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68. "I thought the word among the Heat"
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was that Whiteside is somewhat of a headcase. Also, although he puts up good defensive numbers, I've read that he gambles off his man to get his gaudy shot blocking numbers and he isn't a great one-on-one defensive player.

I'm not all that certain Riley will want to give him a long term, max contract. I'm sure another team will since on paper he's a young big man with good upside and he already has great stats.

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117. "Whiteside has become an enigma"
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He could easily be the next Andrew Bynum and go off the rails completely, but he's still a tantalizing prospect on the right team.

  

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136. "I think only Popp can get through to him..."
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or maybe Brad Stevens

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150. "I honestly won't be shocked if he becomes another Bynum "
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I expect that he'll come to LA, be inconsistent while showing tantalizing flashes and make headlines for all the wrong reasons.

All in all I'm OK with him though I'd feel much better about it if we had a more veteran team.

  

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173. "Not sure if it's a bargaining ploy but talks have stalled"
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and Wade is looking at other places, supposedly.

I'd still be stunned if he left Miami though.

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202. "Where else would be a good fit for him?"
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Trying to think of a team he'd put over the top that needs better two-guards; San Antonio? Would be stunning if he went to OKC to totally screw things up. Are him and CP3 boys? Him on the Clippers would be interesting to say the least and I'm sure Gabrielle Union wouldn't mind being in LA.

Interesting to see Riley want to play hardball with Wade, but with the health concerns, I somewhat understand. Wade is still the Heat's best player though.

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204. "Wade might be best in a 6 man role at this point."
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He's not good/healthy enough to carry an offense as a 2 guard any more and he's not a good enough shooter to be a complimentary piece.

Lotta places he could do that if he's tryna win but he'd have to be willing to sacrifice.

With Bosh status up in the air, probably best to let wade walk unless he'll take a salary cuut.

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217. "He'd fit in nicely with the Clippers"
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assuming Chris Paul and Blake Griffin are healthy for the majority of the regular season. Not sure they'd beat the Warriors, Spurs, or Thunder in a post-season series, but he'd be a nice fit for Doc and Co. And I think he's be a starter, at least for one more season.

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222. "pairing him in the starting lineup with cp3 and blake is unnecessary "
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unless you put him at the 3 which he can't really guard 3s. Their offense is better with redick at the 2.

Don't get me wrong, wade is a starting caliber guard, but that team probably won't do much. I think the 6th man transition or hell, even be more of a pg/facilitator is his best way to use him at this point.

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228. "RE: pairing him in the starting lineup with cp3 and blake is unnecessary..."
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>Don't get me wrong, wade is a starting caliber guard, but that
>team probably won't do much. I think the 6th man transition or
>hell, even be more of a pg/facilitator is his best way to use
>him at this point.
>

Strictly from an ego standpoint, I see Wade going that route within two or three years. By then, I think he'll be hobbled and slowed down enough to get humbled to want to defer in the fashion you're mentioning.

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100. "Ryan Anderson is about to get the Rashard Lewis max money"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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101. "You think? I thought the Pelicans situation exposed him."
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If you can't make it alongside Anthony Davis, where won't you be exposed? And I don't think the Kevin Love situation in Cleveland right now is helping him either.

He'll get paid but I'm not sure he's seeing that Rashard Lewis money. Someone will be dumb enough to give him 14 - 16 million but doubt he's breaking the 20s.

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102. "I'm pretty sure he's on D'Antoni's wish list"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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104. "smh"
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115. "Pau"
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118. "He's a diva who doesn't want to come off the bench "
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The only contender that could give him a starting spot are the Spurs if Tim retires but dude was talking about how it's a good year to be a free-agent aka "I want to get paid".

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120. "he wanna start, be on a contender and get paid"
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216. "Maybe the toughest one to call, seems to be pretty fussy."
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I think the Clippers could use him but he'd have to come off the bench, though he would play a lot of minutes.

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124. "I'm hoping JR Smith can FINALLY get paid what he's worth. "
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12 per...at least.

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133. " what he's worth. "
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*I chuckled*

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134. "Deron Williams...lol"
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139. "He's re-signing if the Mavs miss out on Conley"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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159. "Lance Stephenson"
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The Grizzlies declined his team option, making him a free agent. There's some interest from both sides on a return but there could be offers from other squads.

I'm kind of surprised that they turned down the 9.4 million dollar option since he played well for them but perhaps they're making room for a monster offer to Conley.

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166. "Andrew Nicholson"
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The Magic aren't extending a qualifying offer to him, making him a free agent.

He's nothing special but I feel like he's a solid backup who could be had for cheap. I wouldn't be mad if the Celtics made him an offer.

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167. "Jared Sullinger"
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I wouldn't be stunned if the Celtics just let him walk. I feel like he could be a solid backup for a team that wants to use him as a center or work more in the post as opposed to out on the perimeter where the Celtics had him.

He was definitely disappointing this year but I feel like he's a guy who could go to a place dying for frontcourt help and really put up some nice numbers. Portland might not be a bad fit.

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171. "Jarrett Jack"
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"Sources: Brooklyn shopping Jarrett Jack w/ buyout date looming Thursday. Without trade, Nets plan to waive PG; would clear nearly $6M on cap"

So either Brooklyn thinks they can sign some people to build a legit team or the Celtics are getting the #1 pick in the league next year. (Not that Jack is that good but they're unloading all of their vets.)

I feel like Jack could give a contender some solid backup PG minutes. Barbosa-esque. But I've always been a fan of his.

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172. "ya know what...assuming we don't get Pau, i think i'd be aight with"
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d12...on a like 3 year 50-55mil. I'd rather give him that much than Noah. If Noah would take 10-12 per, get noah.

For SG get another Aaron Afflalo type dude like Courtney Lee who plays good d and can hit the 3.

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174. "You talking yourself into this aren't you?"
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I'm getting close to seeing it too. I can't front. If everything falls right...and I mean everything. And they get Noah or D12 and that falls right.

Meaning everyone is healthy and Zingis improves.

**gulp**

That's gonna be a tough out and an exciting squad. MVP angry/money driven Rose, Mad and last chance Melo, and Happy Dwight or at home Noah. That's tough.

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175. "yup i'm getting ready to accept it. I never hated dwight as much"
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as everyone else, but i feel like you get him, you have to be committed to using him on offense. His presence alone would free melo up soooo much and if melo was willing to pass to the likes of Rolo and Calderoff, he gonna keep it going with these new guys.

Keeping updated with the injury report will not be fun tho...if you can get 65 games outta Rose and Howard on 30-32 mpg and 70 from Melo i'd consider that a Win. Just having 3 out of Zingis, Howard, Melo, Rose is an improvement on anything Melo has had in NY

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177. "I hope to hell not"
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176. "Scrubby Ass Gunner"
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I'm disgusted even saying this but I would be upset if the Bulls didn't offer him a deal. I'm not trying to see Jose fucking Calderon play 30 minutes a night.

Such a mess this entire situation is.

  

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200. "The Bulls front office can't be that stupid"
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to have Calderon on their roster by the time the season starts. I have to imagine he'll get package with another of your bench players and get shipped to another team before the dust settles.

This league is too point guard driven to have Calderon as a starter, especially when Derrick Rose was the option at one point.

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183. "Word is Noah to the Knicks for 18 million a year"
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187. "Lmao. Staps gonna be lucky to average 8 shots a game"
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188. "Why?"
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191. "yeah, why? "
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197. "lmao, cmon man."
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noah is going to get his 8-10 shots per. so whether you think staps gets his shots depends on whether you think Melo and Rose are going to defer some to a 2nd year Euro. if you do, i have a bridge i'd like to sell you.v

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199. "its ridiculous that you posted this after the noah post like 8-10 shots"
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from noah is alot.

and even if we gave melo and rose 20 shots a piece(which they won't) plus noah's 10 is 50. Who is taking the other 30??


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218. "you haven't watched noah recently."
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he doesn't shoot the ball anymore. like, ever.

if he averages 10 fgapg i'll eat this laptop.

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236. "*checks data* yeah, u right."
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cheerfully withdrawn, L accepted.

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241. "Noah gets his on offensive rebounds and tip ins."
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I doubt he'll be looking for plays to run through him.

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242. "and melo deferred to him last year as well"
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but i think you already took your on L on that statement anyway

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189. "18 million? why feel why?"
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if he wanna play with rose so badly and he wanna come back to ny 18 mill feel like an overpay like crazy...especially when there are other Centers on the market.

That being said, noah is probably the center that fits the triangle the best.

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190. "You think its an overpay?"
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**no contract is official yet so we are just speculating.

But you think 18 is too much, in this new tv money deal? What kind of $$ would you dish out?

Kent Bazemore asking 16 mil... that's nuts lol.

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192. "yeah, Noah is 31 coming off injury and 2 bad seasons"
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hasn't shot over 50% in the last 4 seasons.

Pau is better, Dwight is better, Whiteside (who I'm not sure i'd want to max out) is better, Al Jeff is equal to better.

There are so many options out there i'm not sure jumping to 18 million for assumed 3-4 years for noah is the smart choice.

I'd love him at 12 million and would understand 15 million for 3 years if the other options didn't work out.

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226. "we gone politely disagree on that "
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229. "well this part is facts"
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>yeah, Noah is 31 coming off injury and 2 bad seasons"
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hasn't shot over 50% in the last 4 seasons.

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193. "One less Bull for Thibs to overpay"
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194. "lol"
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198. "If it's a multi-year deal"
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what the chance Rose leaves Noah high and dry in a Knick uniform?

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227. "Rose is on a one-year"
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regardless so it wouldn't be "high and dry".

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231. "Equals about 13.5 on the old cap...length of contract is the key here "
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If it's a 2 year deal, I can understand taking the risk bc it's not a bad per year rate.

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233. "agreed but i assumed its gonna be 3-4."
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235. "Per Alan Hahn"
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its pretty much the Lopez deal. (forecasting the new cap of course)

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238. "are you talking about this tweet or did he say more?"
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>Remember last summer when the #Knicks were criticized for overpaying for Robin Lopez? Now he's a "value". Catch up, kids.


And robin lopez contract is NOT a value lolol

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250. "No"
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Heard it on Hahn and Humpty.

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251. "got you"
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185. "Oladipo, Russ, KD, Tito Horford, Adams...make it so, Presti..."
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we going after Al...I'm ok with that.

  

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210. "wait i thought you were a celtics fan"
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yeah that would be a nasty ass lineup in OKC though, whew.

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look back at the Spurs series and WCF posts...I was living and dying nightly during them shits. Probably the only person who made regular season OKC game posts, too.

  

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195. "Marc Stein on Lebatard right now saying Whiteside is gonna be a Maverick..."
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says Dallas is gonna give him the MAX and Pat Riley has the last meeting on Sunday with KD, so he's not addressing Whiteside til he gets his pitch in with Kev.

  

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196. "whiteside is such a maverick type move."
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201. "Riley is an interesting dude."
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So is he banking on Bosh not returning in terms of this mad dash to get Durant? I think it's reasonable to think he's towards the end of his career given the multiple health scares, but if I'm not mistaken, he's still on the roster.

In addition, seems so odd to see him play Whiteside and Wade to an extent to the curb for what is a sliver of a chance to sign Durant.

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207. "bc whiteside is a headcase allegedly and Wade ain't a number 1"
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guy. Miami will always be a fagent destination. If they don't get a big fish this year, they can tank, get a high draft pick and will be back in the fagent mix next year.

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"Lebetard says he thinks the whole Wade thing was thought up by..."


          

and leaked to Windhorst by Wade and Bron. He was like...why did this just happen to get leaked to Windhorst at the same time that Wade, Bron and their wives are vacationing in Spain.

  

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214. "Lebetard says he thinks the whole Wade thing was thought up by..."
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and leaked to Windhorst by Wade and Bron. He was like...why did this just happen to get leaked to Windhorst at the same time that Wade, Bron and their wives are vacationing in Spain.

  

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219. "Sounds like LeBetard is trolling for Miami radio ratings"
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with that one. I'd hope LeBron would have moved on from wanting to meddle around with Pat Riley. Wade leaking that by himself makes sense though and doesn't seem all the wrong if it helps give him leverage.

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234. "you don't think Lebron and Wade are sitting around talking about their....."
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situations? I mean, not saying Lebron is trying to get Wade to Cleveland...but if Wade wants the word out that he's "available"...who better to get that word out to than Windy...and who has greater access to Windy than Lebron? And the fact that this info happened to leak while Wade and Bron are vacationing together means something to me.

  

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244. "Consider the source of that rumor"
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LeBetard is still scorned over the fact LeBron left the Heat, so keep that in mind.

LeBron and Wade discussing their business is one thing; LeBron involving himself with what goes own between Wade and Pat Riley is an entirely different matter. Dude just won a ring and is on vacation; I'm guessing he's on cool out mode and doesn't want to put himself in the head space to meddle with Pat Riley.

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209. "Mavs will definitely get a C, I was thinking Howard but HW makes sense"
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I am not a big fan of Whiteside's but he has upside where Howard does not, though I think an adjustment in his role would bode well for Howard. Either way, Cuban is looking to repeat that Tyson Chandler magic and will get someone.

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213. "additionally...Whiteside is saying he wants his deal done tomorrow..."
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so he ain't trying to wait til Sunday when Riley's dog and pony show for KD is done.

  

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ConcreteCharlie
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221. "that seems kinda stupid to me, especially this year"
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like in the NFL or the NHL where there is a hard cap and the money flies fast, sure. the NBA is more measured and this year there are more options. whiteside on that gimme the loot, gimme the loot, hoping teams don't come to their senses as time passes.

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Cenario
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223. "so many ways for players to eat this offseason."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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Numba_33
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225. "wouldn't surprise me if it's Whiteside's agent that's being pressed"
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dude did earn under a mil last year, so I would imagine his agent want to eat as soon as possible as well.

It is bad business from Whiteside's perspective to be so quick to sign though.

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232. "If he's getting the max, why wait?"
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The Heat can offer an extra year but they've made it pretty clear that they aren't offering the max, so the fifth year might not matter.

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Cenario
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239. "right. he prolly don't want an owner to pull a deandre lol"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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243. "Unless Whiteside is from Dallas"
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playing for the Mavericks for 3-4 years doesn't seem like something I'd want to rush into before seeing if better teams would want to throw money at me. That is unless he's perfectly content to get paid and will stomach playing for a mediocre team, which there's nothing wrong with, but I'd still want to completely see what my options are besides Dallas or Miami.

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246. "I'm sure they've discussed the other potential options"
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Dallas will pay him the max and he could be a bigger part of the offense than in other places. Whiteside is already 27 so he needs to get as much money as he can right now; I would assume that's the priority.

LA would make the most sense if they are willing to max him out, because he could get some more big endorsements there but Texas's lack of state income tax makes it appealing.

And I think Whiteside does have to worry that if his main suitors find other options while they wait for him, that he could lose millions.

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Cenario
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248. "he's been trying to get his big break for so long he just tryna get"
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paid. I doubt playing for a winner is a top priority.

And dallas isn't a terrible city in general or basketball wise...its not like we talking bout indiana or minnesota or something

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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237. "Has Justise Winslow tweeted any cryptic bananaboat emojis about it?"
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I'll wait until then before judging.

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Cenario
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240. "NBA shortened moratorium period to 5 days btw"
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Accountants will be working around the clock lol

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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245. "Terrence Jones is officially FREE....hey everybody....hey everybody"
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Set T-Jones Freeeeeeeeeeee!
Set him Freeeeeeeeee!

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247. "I'd love Boston to go after him as a Sully replacement. "
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Portland might make the most sense though. But I think he could be a nice reclamation project for the right team.

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249. "Nothing but upside. He just has to stay healthy. "
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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252. "Timofey Mozgov offered 4/65 by the Lakers, allegedly"
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http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2016/06/details-on-lakers-offering-4-year-65-million-to-mozgov/

  

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