http://www.vox.com/2016/5/23/11715748/black-twitter-demthrones-hashtag-controversy

i'm completely embarrassed by this shit and amused at the same time. people actually mad me and my boys stood up and took credit for OLD SHIT.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

Yikes.

I always thought the whole "I WAS FIRST TO CYSE/SAY/CLAIM__________!" thing was an OKP gimmick.

I bet you flood the patent office like crazy with shit like this.

You create something, someone steals it claiming it as their own, it goes viral, the person or group that stole it profit off their theft and you don't profit. Are you going to voice frustration?

You, TKO, and Kbadds deserved none of that.

Between the being victims. To people chiming in writing long tweets about misogyny and patriarchy.

To dudes chiming him that have the #Feminist in their bios talking about "Umm hmmm them guys were wrong."

It was disgusting.

All it took was a, "No, I didn't create #DemThrones." That's it. Or even if you didn't know that was in the article, go to the writer and say, "Correct his."

Man, I feel bad when if I ever steal somebody's joke or topic on OKS let alone get credit in a publication.

And then, people were still hee-hee-haw-hawing, like you were in the wrong?

I can't fux with Black Twitter man.

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

She really said, its cuz she's a successful black woman on twitter.

I wanted to go locate a Blimpie's location just so I can slam a retro sandwich there.

Y'all didn't saying anything mean or derogatory. I knew that'd happen though.

People who were mad about it, made a lot of dumb arguments. I don't wanna hear "well we never heard of you guys."

So? That's irrelevant.

Y'all should've said, "Stop Podcast Rankings Shaming us". Lol

There was the how are the Blerds diff from regular black folks tangent.

Like nobody knew the difference.

If y'all didn't have careers and other obligations, I'm sure that could've went so left and you would've responded to everybody. Lol

Much props to you guys for standing up for yourselves.

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

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bshelly

"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

And one chick tweeted something like, "We got in Formation with #ThronesYall and ended #DemThrones"

I'm like shorty seriously?

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

They replaced it with the knockoff bought-in-a-back-alley-in-Chinatown version of #DemThrones too.

Sigh.

My movies: http://russellhainline.com
My movie reviews: https://letterboxd.com/RussellHFilm/
My beer TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thebeertravelguide

sorry, just needed to say that somewhere.

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bshelly

"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

which leaves basa & co. out there as the creators of the hashtag that's no longer trending. everyone could've benefited, but hey, why win.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

And only assholes care about winning Twitter.

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bshelly

"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

that's not what I said, but you've gotta defend your boy.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

We all have our roles.

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"People that need positivity around them all the time are weak individuals in my book" - @lilduval

it doesn't mean you have to make shit up, but it works out that way in the end.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

Some eventual monetary profit? If this incident proved anything, it's that Ba and them weren't getting any of that. People real bad at sharing and giving credit.

But are you seriously on the sexism train for this one? Seriously? Because I'd love to hear you try to explain that.

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bshelly

"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

you're mad at people on twitter, you're mad at people who see sexism in the fact that the only woman involved is the one who caught the criticism.

I assume basa and them do the podcast for people to listen to it. winning, in this case, would probably = more listeners.

the people they interacted with are more than happy to spread the love around... if asked.

instead they got mocked out of the gate, and their respective audiences came in with a negative viewpoint.

do I have to explain how that's not the winning outcome of this situation?

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

It is you that seems mad.

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bshelly

"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

cuz you really, really want it to be about that.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

Honestly.

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

you seem deeply upset that someone out there sees a sexist undertone in it.

sure, you could address what I said about basaglia, but why bother when there are people who you think are wrong about sexism

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

And the sexism arc is unquestionably the dominant
backlash he's received.

It's hurtful to make ONE mistake and get blamed for
a DIFFERENT, WORSE mistake.

Maybe one can argue that once you make a mistake, you lose
the right to be mad if you're blame for a different one,
but me and you know that's horseshit.

Ba admitted to his mistake.

That mistake wasn't "not wanting black women to be
successful." Basaglia tore my ass to pieces on this very
board, far, far worse for stealing his slang and not giving
it proper credit.

That makes Basaglia an asshole.

Has nothing to do with whether he wants "black women to
be be successful."


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

but you decided that my description of what someone else said, was my opinion and got ready to jump on me for it.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

I really should've just asked you.

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

it is not my viewpoint that this is a problem with sexism, but I'm also not mad at whoever for seeing what they see, because the facts are what they are.

the only person i'm mad at is the BI writer who didn't bother to check up on their information in the first place.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

The issue was content, not just a hashtag.

I know TBGWT does a segment, he's cool with y'all, but others were doing them and stealing whole bits. So now dueling hashtags? LOL


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Same as it ever was!

we just went the fuck off on everybody using it. it wasn't the best tact, but we got our due.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

Keep doing your thing for man. Always appreciated.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

that's what's up

all it took was one (white?) lazy writer from techinsider and some thin skins (not y'all, mostly followers and the girl for bouncing on the hashtage) and twitter twitter'd in the worst way.


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you think we playing chess, but i'm playing mad-making. Basaglia

Especially since she's trying to make this about gender, and you say "yeah we were trying to shame?" That's all the excuse anyone who reads that post will need to write you off, steal more of your shit, etc.

Also, Jesus fucking Christ this is ridiculous.

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bshelly

"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

Look, standard disclaimer about man talking about gender, particularly on this issue. I've still got a lot to learn. And I'm far from a qualified final arbiter on what is and is not discrimination.

But someone would need to explain to me how the bias claim here isn't the laziest, most myopic shit ever and the kind of thing people will point to the next time a woman makes a legit gender discrimination claim.

They made shit up.

She built on their IP and was happy to let others give her the credit.

They pulled her card.

And here she is claiming to be the wronged party.

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bshelly

"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

Listening to the show, I didn't know they were talking about her.

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

it was for us and folks who listen to us. you think i don't appreciate that niggas here and wherever like the dumb shit me and my boys say and start using it themselves? i love it.

but, to be a content creator, cookin up other people's stuff...nah, man.

i would never take someone idea's no matter how big or small they are. i still feel bad about the BET comic, whose name STILL escapes me, whose joke i repeated on the cast. that shit that goes "but, i'm a millionaire!!!! countin my money! Gettin my paper!" dude is a genius, as far as i'm concerned and i want people to know about him.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

>She built on their IP and was happy to let others give her the credit.



www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

The sad shit is most of our rant was aimed at Rod. And me and him had a serious heart to heart and that shit is squashed. Whoever still mad, I have no right to tell them not to be.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

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Photo zine(some images NSFW): http://bit.ly/USaSPhoto

"This (and every, actually) conversation needs more Chesterton and less Mike Francesa." - Walleye

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

But he's only done it once or twice - it was early on in Pop Rocket when they were finding their feet.

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Photo zine(some images NSFW): http://bit.ly/USaSPhoto

"This (and every, actually) conversation needs more Chesterton and less Mike Francesa." - Walleye

Didn't even say #thatsite either.

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12 play and 12 planets are enlighten for all the Aliens to Party and free those on the Sex Planet-maxxx

XBL: trkc21
Twitter: @tyrcasey

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

too bad, it could've been a real come up for y'all

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

bad audio and all, they wanna hear us talk about dumb shit. and they mad when we miss a week. to read niggas say we helped save their marriage, kept them smiling and laughing in 100+ degree desert heat while serving and bonding with their kids over what we do...dogg, i have a job. i own a home on cap hill. i'm doing okay. but, i can't put money on what we mean to the people who fuck with us. i had no idea, but when i realized it, i knew there would be no more letting people take credit for our shit like we've ALWAYS let happen.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATR2100-USB-Cardioid-Dynamic-Microphone/dp/B004QJOZS4

bang for the buck is insane

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"People that need positivity around them all the time are weak individuals in my book" - @lilduval

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

I think there was an opportunity to get plugged in to even more folks who don't know about you in a positive way instead of a negative way, but, that's how it goes sometimes

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

So I don't see how this could've been a come up.

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

he would've gotten them credit and straightened everybody out.

he has a big enough voice to make that happen, and he's a fan/friend of theirs already.


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

But if Hard Copy came and talked to me cuz they were doing a story about the new competitive sport "Dabbing on Hoverboards" and I know you started it and I only participate, I'd tell them hit up RJ, he put me onto Hov' Dabbin.

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

and they can be mad they didn't get the initial mention, but the response is everything.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

GOOD!!

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"People that need positivity around them all the time are weak individuals in my book" - @lilduval

i woulda asked e-40 that shit if he was referring to Olympus Has Fallen as Dat 'Lympus a couple of years ago.

my boys and say that shit in conversation, just to see if we'll know what each other is talking about. hell, i've done it here when i used to call Chris Duhon "Dem 'Gibles" building off Duhongibles.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

Have totally colonized my language.

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bshelly

"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

with routine DC shit.

but "Cuban B" is probably my favorite shit next to "Cheese Eyes".

I say that at work ALL the time. and most people get the reference.

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Mar-A-Lago delenda est

you know how long i had to listen to howard stern to get all that stuff...all those people? all that backstory?

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

especially since I was already acclimated to most of your slang on here but was still stumped on that one like "the fuck is a hongible?"

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Mar-A-Lago delenda est

They couldn't get no traction but YouTube funny >>>> hashtags/ podcasts

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TI7ui2mjpfI


I won't go down that twitter rabbit hole but kinda looks like vox doing a- 'reporting live, deep in the hardscrabble streets of black twitter. Here's how it really goes down-'



Do what u gotta do, I guess

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bunda
<-.-> ^_^ \^0^/
get busy living, or get busy dying.

But wow....I really am in shock right now. I never thought that folks would try to go in on ya'll like that. Wow.....

I just don't see why they were being so petty. It's not that hard to use the hashtag and give you guys credit (as others did.)

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12 play and 12 planets are enlighten for all the Aliens to Party and free those on the Sex Planet-maxxx

XBL: trkc21
Twitter: @tyrcasey

I just wanna say you guys deserve credit for this. Everyone on this board adopted that way of speaking years before GoT was even a TV show.

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17x NBA Champions

i see a lot of ppl using that shit.

<--- Big Baller World Order

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

I read it and honestly couldn't get good grasp on what the big deal was. Then again, that's probably because the word blerd bothered me each and every time I saw it in the article. Hard to take the article seriously when the writer seemed proud to use such an insulting word.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

that had issues with an alt-black stand-up comedy special that came out 5-10 years ago; it reminds me of my issue with that word. I suppose that's a whole other discussion, but it bothers me both from fellow black folks using it or even worse non-black folks feeling comfortable with that label, which I suspect with arise because of that article and the attention it's getting.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

>that had issues with an alt-black stand-up comedy special
>that came out 5-10 years ago; it reminds me of my issue with
>that word. I suppose that's a whole other discussion, but it
>bothers me both from fellow black folks using it or even worse
>non-black folks feeling comfortable with that label, which I
>suspect with arise because of that article and the attention
>it's getting.

I will say, though, that the BGN girls are much different
than that standup routine we had a problem with.

Our (or my) issue is with black people who coon for WHITE people
by advertising how "not like the rest of the niggers" we are. In
doing so, they sell the race up the river by propagating the
myth of monolithic blackness:

"Yeah, THEY are like this, but I AM DIFFERENT! I like Science
Fiction and Radiohead!!!"

Quietly, it's a very destructive trope. And black people do
that dumb shit all the time, just to get love from white
people. And it's often sanctimonious, self absorbed whiny
bullshit associated with it, the "the black kids never liked
me" thing. It's terrible.

The truth is, black people, as in REGULAR NIGGAS ALWAYS been
Alternative and nerdy.

REGULAR niggas.

Hip-Hop was a nerdy phenomenon. Niggas in the HOOD was on
Kung Fu flicks. ALWAYS have been.

So ANYONE trotting out a "I'm so eclectic and black" narrative
knows nothing about REGULAR niggas.

This issue actually became very central around Prince:

NOBODY is "weirder." But dude never reveled in distancing himself
from black people. He was ALWAYS on some proud black shit, even
with his buttcheeks cut out them pants. My dude was at the
Superbowl with FAMU's band, nigga. He was a thorough, authentic
African-American man. Weird and all. Had an army of black women
by his side ALWAYS.


To the BGN girls: I think they share SOME of the stuff that
I don't like about black otherness, BUT they seem to be centrally
on some pro-black shit. They aren't about separating themselves
from black people. They seem to be more about reminding WHITE
PEOPLE that black people belong in the Nerd kingdom do. MUCH
different mission there. More like Prince than the niggas I
don't like.

Still not entirely my cup of tea, but I like them overall.



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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

"Basa is my dude..."

"I've supported several FS and Basa projects..."

"I am planning several things with FS..."

1) FS got their credit, and everyone seems to have moved
on

2) The BGN group deserved an apology, and got it. A lot
of us are complaining about their leviathan of followers, and
the silly victimhood shit. Right. Ultimately they were the
only true victims here, though. they didn't bother anyone. They're
harmless young women who do really harmless stuff on the
web. They don't pick fights. And they didn't steal anything.
Everyone else--the writer, FS, Rod and them--did some actual
wrong.

3) Thank goodness, it looks like FS got off easy. The Vox
article in particular could have been far, far, far, far
worse. And the BGN leviathan could have been way, way more harsh.
I've seen it happen for misunderstandings about as big.


So thank goodness it seems like everyone is fine.

We can all learn from this.

I have more pointed things to say regarding the institution of
"credit." Maybe I can share that one day later. It's more
complicated than the Vox article or FS or anyone seems to
grasp.



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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

made more apparent by one of my dudes since birth texting me last night that he and his wife got into it because she's a blerd and follows BGN and he knows our history of having our material plucked right out from under us. they were at me and my wife's wedding, dogg. i feel terrible.

i've apologized to BGN and i'm leaving it alone.

____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

As corny as it sounds, and as cliche as it is, we do need to
stick up for black girls more, in general. And especially in
digital spaces.

Dudes like me and you THINK we know this, because we're evolved
and progressive (and we do rep), but we need to remind ourselves
of our privilege: I was 1000% with you AT FIRST and that is
solely because of our privilege as MEN. We can just say shit,
not think what we're doing to black women.

And they stick up for and support black men WAY WAY more than
we do them. Nigga: if you or Rod got hated on by a bunch
of white women?!?!??!(let alone white men). BGN and black
female twitter would have blew SMOKE up some white women's ass
for y'all...didn't even need to know y'all. I've seen sisters
do it ALL the time.

So it's time for all of us to fess up.

I'm gonna be on some black girl pitbull shit.

Because NOBODY ELSE stands up for them. EVER.


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

at various times they've been angry at me over this or that.

if you want to criticize the community for overzealously dragging anyone that they even THINK has line stepped, sure, you can do that.

but they're all fairly open to any kind of communication, and definitely step up to support their own.

just talk to them niggas, and they will work it out.


you can go on some angry shit, but I've done that and...LOL

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

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http://i.imgur.com/Gj5Wy56.jpg

because of how large and expansive the internet is, it's entirely possible to exist solely in your own bubble and not be aware that another group and/or clique created a meme or phrase and not be malicious in said ignorance.

Not saying groupthink/mob mentality doesn't happen (ie comments on a racially divisive news story), but I'm guessing that black girl nerd individuals mentioned in the article weren't trying to curb FiyaStarter initially. They seem like rational folks from what I've read in the article.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.