5. "I don't get it, who hated Andy Reid?" In response to Reply # 3
It was time for him to move on, no coach lasts forever in one place. That's all. I think I speak for most Eagles fans when I say I was grateful for all he did in Philly and wish him the best in his future endeavors.
And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
8. "it wasn't just message board cats either" In response to Reply # 6
a sizable portion of the fanbase in real life wanted dude gone probably the majority of it over those last few yrs i don't see anything wrong with it really it's professional sports, maybe you ride it out for a decade post in college iono but given a professional coach a decade plus before without a chip seems pretty reasonable to me
24. "I mean no one kissed his ass but no one treated him unfairly" In response to Reply # 10
He lasted a LONG time in the gig and got respect, money, influence, etc. By the end it was time for him to go. No one lasts forever in a gig and very few last as long as he did in Philly
And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
12. "Because you can tell Eagles fans from regular OKS posters?" In response to Reply # 6
Rrrright.
10 years ago, regular posters on here were bashing Andy Reid because he was intentionally sabotaging McNabb's career. That happened. And it was a TON of non-Eagles fans co-signing that sentiment. Folks bashed AR for his pass-happy offense and refusal to sign big name WRs. They also bashed him for choking in big games.
As Andy Reid took on more powers as Head Coach (GM duties), he became increasingly ineffective. His last 2 years were marred by horrible draft selections, horrible free agent signings, and massively underachieving teams. It was time to go.
He had a GREAT run in Philly and is still largely revered by Eagles fans. It was just time to go. Trust, that no one wishes him ill will.
7. "NO, WE DON'T OWE HIM AN APOLOGY" In response to Reply # 3
>OKS owes Alex Smith an apology.
Recent history has shown us Alex's entire career trajectory is some white privilege shit. RG3 AND Kaep say FOH with any claims of any apology towards Alex. Give them enough time to start on the same team and just allowed to be around until they find a coach after their initial one that believes in them and watch them succeed as well.
Any deserves an apology. Alex is privileged as shit and history backs me up.
16. "dude to hear people tell it here he was fukkin todd marinovich" In response to Reply # 7
nah, the fact that he's stuck in the league and been decent is WAY more than people (including niners fans) expected of him. he was roundly panned. personally IDGAF, i mean, what stake do i have in the guy? i did think people were too hard on him at the time but again not something that kept me awake at night like, i dunno, you losing a centimeter off your cock.
And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
Doesn't change the fact that it was time for him to go in Philly nor does that change how much I respected the job he did during his extended tenure there.
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26. "Still in better playoff position than KC with a probowl backup QB" In response to Reply # 25
We're as Listerine as can be in a situation of franchise QB gone. Meanwhile KC still gotta win out for their division with a lame duck QB leading the way & rookie sitting in the corner holding clipboard.
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
30. "Still better than Marvin Lewis but man does he have a knack for ..." In response to Reply # 27
getting outcoached. He has won enough games that he is far from the worst but you think about Gruden, Bellicheat, John Fox, whoever the fuck Arizona's coach was in 09, today a guy whose tenure might have ended with a loss, etc, etc. He really has a knack for being outwitted.
And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
42. "Tough to say" In response to Reply # 31 Tue Jan-09-18 01:18 PM by ConcreteCharlie
The losses to STL and Arizona were road games where they were underdogs. The Tampa game was a home game and so was Carolina. In both games a lot of the nose-to-nose battles went the other way (much of that was holding by TB's line O Line and Carolina's DBs, but hey, this is the fucking playoffs!). The loss to NE was a push, three-point dogs and lost by three. This obviously was a game KC should have won. I would say beating the Giants in 06 was a pretty solid win and getting to the title game against STL was also solid. So he hasn't always been favored when he won and definitely not when he lost.
Marv has never won a playoff game. We aren't talking about title games or Super Bowls, we're talking about the first round. Without looking I know at least four of those were home games which is a pretty clear indicator that they were favored.
And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
44. "that would make it so much funnier" In response to Reply # 38
honestly i liked reid and wished him success but the good part now is that i also revel in his failure because OE has cast him as some lombardi-like figure
And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
45. "It amazes me how much the sports media blow Reid" In response to Reply # 44
they treat him like a shade under Belicheat, Chuck Noll, Joe Gibbs, etc when he is really Schottenheimer 2.0
KC will keep him around because he wine 11-13 games regular seasons and division titles (just like Philly did), but he will NEVER win a Super bowl unless he gets one a la Indianapolis (playing a Bear-like team with no QB)
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46. "RE: It amazes me how much the sports media blow Reid" In response to Reply # 45
I think that take is way overdoing it.
Andy Reid gets exactly the props he deserves, he is a great football coach. He has several fatal flaws but so do lots of guys. I never heard anyone putting him close to Belichick or Walsh or anything even close.
He doesn't even get mentioned with guys like Dungy, Gruden, Holmgren…because they won Superbowls.
There has to be room between all-time greats and just average guys.
Even if Andy never wins the SB, he is still a great coach. He took a team to the dance and won a lot outside of that as well.
48. "RE: It amazes me how much the sports media blow Reid" In response to Reply # 46
>I think that take is way overdoing it. > >Andy Reid gets exactly the props he deserves, he is a great >football coach. He has several fatal flaws but so do lots of >guys. I never heard anyone putting him close to Belichick or >Walsh or anything even close. > >He doesn't even get mentioned with guys like Dungy, Gruden, >Holmgren…because they won Superbowls. > >There has to be room between all-time greats and just average >guys. > > >Even if Andy never wins the SB, he is still a great coach. He >took a team to the dance and won a lot outside of that as >well.
Apparently our definition of "great coach" is different.
For me, a great coach either wins the Super Bowl (and not all SB winners have been great coaches) or they have been innovators (like a Don Coryell or a Buddy Ryan). Andy Reid is neither of those. He evaluates talent pretty well, especially mid level draft picks. His time management has always been questionable at best. His play calling...well you see what happened this year when he called plays and when his OC called them. He is much closer to a notch above average than he is to greatness IMHO..
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51. "I root for Andy, but damn if there's ever been a guy who just can't get ..." In response to Reply # 0
of his own way and learn from his past (and current) mistakes. The guy HAS to know that unless you got Tom Brady, you can't survive in the league passing the ball 90% of the time. He had the NFL leading rusher on his team with a LEAD and refused to run the ball in the 2nd half of a playoff game. That is just absurd. His clock management skills are still among the worst in the league. His stubborn nature of sticking to his game plan no matter the early outcome, is detrimental. Or if things go wrong or not to his liking, his immediate reaction is to just pass the ball over and over again regardless of its success rate.
He still does an amazing job of getting the most from his players and he is a creative play-caller, but his weaknesses will always prevent him from reaching the mountain top. It almost feels like he doesn't want to win a SB. I just can't understand how you can make the same mistakes over and over again and literally make no adjustments.
52. "RE: I root for Andy, but damn if there's ever been a guy who just can't ..." In response to Reply # 51
>of his own way and learn from his past (and current) >mistakes. The guy HAS to know that unless you got Tom Brady, >you can't survive in the league passing the ball 90% of the >time. He had the NFL leading rusher on his team with a LEAD >and refused to run the ball in the 2nd half of a playoff game. > That is just absurd. His clock management skills are still >among the worst in the league. His stubborn nature of sticking >to his game plan no matter the early outcome, is detrimental. >Or if things go wrong or not to his liking, his immediate >reaction is to just pass the ball over and over again >regardless of its success rate.
53. "The buck stops with Andy though. He's seen this song and dance far" In response to Reply # 52
too often to lose in the same typical fashion as he's done in many playoff games before. It's really unfathomable to limit the NFL's leading rusher to just 5 carries from the 2nd through 4th quarter in a game where you had an 18 point lead against an anemic offense. He did the same shit in all those NFC Championship games where he should have been feeding the ball to Westbrook, Duce, and Buckhalter. The guy simply refuses to acknowledge and work on his fatal flaws.
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80. "Damn right I shit on Andy he wasted the prime years of McNabb's" In response to Reply # 75
career with his arrogance and Larry Brownesque mentality of coaching up bums especially on the offensive side of the ball.
Almost every player McNabb played with outside of a handful of players at skill positions was out of the league or a backup within a year of leaving Philly
Brown Pinkston Freddie Mitchell James Thrash Greg Lewis Hank Baskett etc.etc.etc.
I have no hate against him tho get yo ring Andy I don't even fully blame him for the superbowl L in 2004 with the 52 passing plays vs 12 rushing plays because the Patriots were cheating.
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101. "only 11 rushing attempts by RB’s" In response to Reply # 91
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92. "Can someone explain this?" In response to Reply # 89
Ive been searching twitter and the sports shows for someone who can explain what exactly Reid was trying to do by calling all those timeouts before the half.
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103. "And they lose to the 49ers if they had a competent QB" In response to Reply # 100 Tue Feb-09-21 01:10 PM by Sofian_Hadi
Skip brought it up today. I forgot Mahomes threw two picks to end the third quarter and were still down by 10 midway through the fourth. If the 49ers had even a half decent QB to answer they win that game easily. Jimmy G was terrible in the second half
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93. "This dude needs to take a step back and deal with his family...." In response to Reply # 0
Seriously man. He needs to retire and get this shit in order. His son seriously injured and possibly killed a little kid driving drunk. I know he wants to have him around to keep an eye on him....but this aint it man.
96. "His son is an adult...it's not ON HIM. But yeah. " In response to Reply # 93
>Seriously man. He needs to retire and get this shit in >order. His son seriously injured and possibly killed a little >kid driving drunk. I know he wants to have him around to keep >an eye on him....but this aint it man.
That obviously affected him
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97. "IDGAF how old his son is...." In response to Reply # 96
Andy Reid is the coach of a prominent NFL franchise and his son injured and possibly killed someone in that same city. How the fuck is that not grounds to step away? On some level he's still responsible for having his son around.
107. "I’m going to go out on a limb here and ASSume" In response to Reply # 106
KC has been drafting for offense and ignoring the defense needs I’m not a KC fan…so that’s just a guess based on previous experience Dude about to ruin Pat.
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