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"Poll question: prime Iverson vs current Curry"
Thu Nov-12-15 11:36 AM by melmag

  

          

who's the better player?

who's more exciting to watch?

tho I dont recall AI really having a "prime" unless u consider his MVP & Finals season his prime.. he was just that great from jump




Poll result (48 votes)
Answer (11 votes)Vote
Curry (37 votes)Vote

  

  

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This'll hit plat by the time I get back from lunch.
Nov 12th 2015
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http://tinyurl.com/pgmpz2d
Nov 12th 2015
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https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/tim-legler-drew-a-sad...
Nov 12th 2015
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      http://tinyurl.com/omu8yx4
Nov 12th 2015
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Pretty hard to answer this honestly.
Nov 12th 2015
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here ya go
Nov 12th 2015
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      It's funny that he gets 100% of the blame, Duncan was the top player
Nov 12th 2015
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           I'll take extra cheese with those pleas
Nov 12th 2015
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           Duncan was the captain, you stupid fuck
Nov 12th 2015
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                Iverson was the Captan hammer thrower and loser
Nov 12th 2015
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                     You admitting to lying or nah?
Nov 13th 2015
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                     Basically
Nov 13th 2015
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                     he was also their best player in the tournament
Nov 13th 2015
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           It wasn't Tim that got grilled by Arroyo/Jasikevicius/Manu nm
May 10th 2016
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Curry
Nov 12th 2015
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Lol@"Iverson's social cred"
Nov 12th 2015
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Iverson all day.
Nov 12th 2015
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cmon.
Nov 12th 2015
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The one with the ring
Nov 12th 2015
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Rasheed Wallace >> Karl Malone
Nov 12th 2015
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      Wat??????
Nov 13th 2015
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      *whoosh*
Nov 14th 2015
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      Uh...i think thats true on its own.
May 10th 2016
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I'd say Iverson's prime was roughly 99 through 05, you could bump it
Nov 12th 2015
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Not the one who....http://product-images.highwire.com/6137131/does-not-p...
Nov 12th 2015
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I would still rather watch AI highlights, mainly for the crossovers
Nov 12th 2015
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there were plays when AI would school all five guys en route to 2 points
Nov 12th 2015
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Uh, Steph's crossovers are just as effective
Nov 12th 2015
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      We not talking bout effective. At the time, AI's crossovers were
Nov 12th 2015
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           Iverson's probably better than Curry
Nov 12th 2015
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           I can tell you never really watched very much basketball.
Nov 13th 2015
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curry for both.
Nov 12th 2015
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What's scary is still don't think we know how good Steph's "prime" is
Nov 12th 2015
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There games will age pretty comparatively with their respective livers.
Nov 12th 2015
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Allen Iverson is grossly overrate on this board
Nov 12th 2015
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It's hard to overrate one of the 30 best players ever
Nov 12th 2015
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It's not hard to overrate anyone
Nov 12th 2015
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      RE: It's not hard to overrate anyone
Nov 12th 2015
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           I agree...Curry needs to put in more work to solidify the spot
Nov 13th 2015
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                the thing with curry that's remarkable is consistency
Nov 13th 2015
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He convinced me. Gimmie my dollar back.
Nov 12th 2015
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in order for curry to have the impact that AI had he has to win more
Nov 12th 2015
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He's on his way, in fact I see many similarities
Nov 12th 2015
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That would imply Allen Iverson is on a top tier or 2nd tier...or 3rd...
Nov 12th 2015
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how many guys are in a tier?
Nov 12th 2015
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Not 80
Nov 12th 2015
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      ?
Nov 12th 2015
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ain't really trying get into that. but AI was included in the top 60
Nov 13th 2015
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so Curry already won more than AI but has to win MORE to match up w/him?
Nov 13th 2015
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RE: prime Iverson vs current Curry
Nov 12th 2015
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We already discussed this...
Nov 12th 2015
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LOL @ not close b/w similar banter but not the same thread
Nov 12th 2015
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      those other guys won scoring titles shooting 50% and over
Nov 13th 2015
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           did they have to score 30+ every night bc no one else could score 10?
Nov 13th 2015
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                Wilt and Jorn did for some of theirs
Nov 13th 2015
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                     We're comparing Wilt to perimeter guys? Wilt/Jordan to anyone?
Nov 14th 2015
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Iverson
Nov 12th 2015
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^^^Concrete...this is how you overrate Iverson
Nov 13th 2015
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jesus, bro, log off and get some ass
Nov 13th 2015
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lol...got no problem in the ass-getting arena
Nov 13th 2015
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      That's good to know b/w he is worlds better as a shooter, sure
Nov 14th 2015
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but he had cornrolls
May 10th 2016
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^^^Whole lot of laughably wrong in here
Nov 13th 2015
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I was hoping this one wouldn't make it to OKS nm
Nov 12th 2015
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Curry is insane, but have any of you ever met AI? I have, dude is about
Nov 12th 2015
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Lulz. The fuck this gotta do with the question?
Nov 13th 2015
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Only people voting AI gotta be Sixers fans and cats who don't watch.
Nov 13th 2015
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right, lol...
Nov 13th 2015
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These are the people Reebok are making Questions for in 2015
Nov 13th 2015
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dammit. i legit lol'd at work.
May 10th 2016
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You understimate the power of shitty breath
Nov 13th 2015
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It's a two-part question and one is subjective, so ...
Nov 13th 2015
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To play Devil's Advocate
Nov 13th 2015
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      AI was fired from the league for being a ball hoggedly loser
Nov 13th 2015
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           damn bro, you are so obsessed that you're in here lying
Nov 13th 2015
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           http://tinyurl.com/3r6caar
Nov 13th 2015
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           The premise of the original thread
Nov 13th 2015
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Curry better for this era. Iverson better in his era
Nov 13th 2015
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Lulz. Steph better at the game of basketball.
Nov 13th 2015
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lol
Nov 13th 2015
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Good reminder of how hilarious Philadelphians are.
Nov 13th 2015
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Let's not stretch it
Nov 13th 2015
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I think its closer than folks want to admit right now.
Nov 13th 2015
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this is curry moment right now
Nov 13th 2015
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      the thing that bugs me out is that AI went for 40 damn near at will
Nov 13th 2015
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I'm realizing how much I miss dumb, stinky Philly fas
Nov 13th 2015
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ill take the one who can stroke it any place
Nov 13th 2015
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Curry is in straight himalayan salt mode right now
Nov 13th 2015
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This one is easy. Steph all day.
Nov 13th 2015
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Curry, BUT ai with current rules would be unstoppable
Nov 13th 2015
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He could just live at the foul line
Nov 14th 2015
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^^^^^^^^
Nov 14th 2015
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I didn't know A.I.'s prime was 20 years ago
Nov 14th 2015
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      This, man.
Nov 15th 2015
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So who's harder to guard?
Nov 14th 2015
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the guy who makes more of his shots
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The shooting percentages alone make it an easy choice for me. Curry.
Nov 14th 2015
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dude is shooting damn near 90/50/50 .. like wtf
Nov 14th 2015
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RE: prime Iverson vs current Curry
Nov 14th 2015
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this is all you needed to say
Nov 14th 2015
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Allen "The Answer" Iverson all day. How soon folks forget.
Nov 14th 2015
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AI in 2015 is basically James Harden but less corny
Nov 15th 2015
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you are a fucking lunatic. n/m
Nov 15th 2015
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you mean the guy who challenged curry for mvp last year?
Nov 15th 2015
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If WestBrick & HarDone had a baby, it would grow up to be AI
May 10th 2016
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huge differences in FG and 3pt FG % in Curry's favor
May 10th 2016
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Hoya Saxa
Nov 15th 2015
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LOL. Niggas was still hanging on in Nov?
May 10th 2016
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You ain't slick
May 10th 2016
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Of course I'm not. Nothing about this is slick.
May 10th 2016
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fish breath takes time to cure. n/m
May 10th 2016
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Iverson was a better athlete, but Curry PRACTICES.
May 10th 2016
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interesting...
May 10th 2016
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Ya think?
May 10th 2016
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If we wanna go all in on with the prisoner of the moment steeze
May 10th 2016
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let's not forget game 1 2001 finals, 60-point game, etc
May 10th 2016
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I told ya'll Curry passed AI last year
May 10th 2016
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3. "Pretty hard to answer this honestly."
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Then again, I don't go for the agenda stuff that floods this board, so that could be why I have a hard time answering this.

Curry is currently surrounded by much better talent than what Iverson had in his prime. I do wonder if Iverson would do a good job if he were in a system that Curry is currently in. I also wonder how well Curry would flourish if he was surrounded by the refuse Iverson has in his prime in Philadelphia. Playing with Eric Snow as your second best player is different than when you have Klay Thompson to have your back.

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13. "It's funny that he gets 100% of the blame, Duncan was the top player"
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but the international lane and a generally horrible performance made him totally invisible. no one dumps on him when he had a much worse tournament and basically faded into oblivion vis-a-vis the national team because of it.

the olympics have nothing to do with the nba anyway. that's evidenced by the ultimate team player and its biggest winner in recent years having the same failure as the AIs, Stephs (two of the better performers of the tournament, actually), et al for the team.

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20. "I'll take extra cheese with those pleas"
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Captain Iverson piloted a losing ship, embarrassed
the US in front of the world



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26. "Duncan was the captain, you stupid fuck"
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basketball_at_the_2004_Summer_Olympics_%E2%80%93_Men%27s_team_squads#.C2.A0United_States

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40. "Iverson was the Captan hammer thrower and loser"
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Hi

  

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(BTW if you don't answer, that means you're admitting to lying)

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>(BTW if you don't answer, that means you're admitting to
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52. "he was also their best player in the tournament"
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marbury did his thing, too. duncan was terrible. i don't hold it against him because i look at the bigger picture for him and for the program.

this was a team that was leaning on like richard jefferson to shoot 3s. what an embarrassing job putting the team together and game planning. worst moment of LB's career.

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115. "It wasn't Tim that got grilled by Arroyo/Jasikevicius/Manu nm"
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4. "Curry"
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its close but its Curry...Iverson's social cred is what put him over the top but for ballin reasons its Curry.

  

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9. "Lol@"Iverson's social cred""
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>its close but its Curry...Iverson's social cred is what put
>him over the top but for ballin reasons its Curry.

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7. "Iverson all day."
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8. "cmon."
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10. "The one with the ring"
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11. "Rasheed Wallace >> Karl Malone "
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that "rings!" argument is so asinine.

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Guru I hate Mailman as much as anyone but come on Bro.

OK we will do it your way and exclude rings. Steph is the better shooter, handle just as good if not better, better natural PG and he WILLINGLY slides between both the 1 and 2 which he plays equally as well.

AI? Scorer. RELUCTANT to play the 1.

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93. "*whoosh*"
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his statement implies the dumb logic that is the ringz! argument. that is, the player with a ring is automatically better than one without

  

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104. "Uh...i think thats true on its own."
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Karl Malone is a loser

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12. "I'd say Iverson's prime was roughly 99 through 05, you could bump it"
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like a year or two ahead or stretch a little but that was basically the span. 03 and 05 were better than his MVP year IMO, his team just wasn't all that good.

i really like both guys. they were different styles of player in different settings to me, despite a lot of similarities in size, swagger, combo-ness, etc.

i don't really have a vote in the poll, been a huge fan of both guys from the minute i saw them play and obviously had another level of attachment to iverson's success since he was a sixer.

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15. "I would still rather watch AI highlights, mainly for the crossovers"
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and overall quickness. But Steph's shooting alone puts him ahead, especially this year

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16. "there were plays when AI would school all five guys en route to 2 points"
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i get a similar joy watching steph dribble himself into a trap and somehow turn and fire a three that goes in.

both guys are just electric and full of confidence.

AI was more about going to the hoop and hence his style was more physical and more confrontational. personally i like that more but it's just a matter of taste.

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21. "Uh, Steph's crossovers are just as effective"
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He can just pull up and hit an actual jumper
consistently

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22. "We not talking bout effective. At the time, AI's crossovers were"
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completely groundbreaking. Hardaway was the inventor, but AI took it to the next level. Curry def has some that are just as great, no question, but me being a High Schooler who would try to imitate what I saw on TV, AI just owned that era and will always be the first person you think of for having a vicious crossover.

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23. "Iverson's probably better than Curry"
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at absorbing contact and driving to the rim, but I don't know about Iverson having that much of a better cross-over dribble.

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62. "I can tell you never really watched very much basketball. "
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>completely groundbreaking. Hardaway was the inventor,

Only niggas who played hoop games on Sega Genesis say
shit like that

Hardaway was the first to have a trademark around it,
and that's because the league branding went through
the roof around that time

Not because he "invented" a damn thing, because he
didn't

But niggas been getting crossed over for decades.

Isiah was burning niggas with crossovers too

The crossover isn't really a *thing*, really

It's just one move you use to get past a defender

but AI
>took it to the next level. Curry def has some that are just as
>great, no question, but me being a High Schooler who would try
>to imitate what I saw on TV, AI just owned that era and will
>always be the first person you think of for having a vicious
>crossover.




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18. "curry for both."
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19. "What's scary is still don't think we know how good Steph's "prime" is"
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It's conceivable that he'll get even better than he is right now. Like, later this season, or next season, or the season after that.

I like Iverson. A lot. I think he gets an unnecessary amount of shit on this board, some because of the Philly fan backlash, some because it ended so poorly for AI. He's a bonafide great. But I definitely think when we look both at of their primes, it's going to be Curry.

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25. "There games will age pretty comparatively with their respective livers. "
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24. "Allen Iverson is grossly overrate on this board"
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...and I LIKE Allen Iverson.

Curry is better...already.

Was Ivo fun to watch, full of heart, supported by a patchwork team of journeymen and Old Mutombo...sure.

But think about this...If Curry shot 28 times a game, how many ppg do you think he'd avg?

To put that in perspective...he's shooting the most he's ever shot in his career this year (20 FGA's) and he's averaging 32ppg.

Just off the J and handle alone, Curry better right today. He has to be this good for another 4 years to have a better career overall.


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28. "It's hard to overrate one of the 30 best players ever"
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Curry could climb even higher than that, sure, but let's not blow off the comparison between likely first-ballot HOF'ers like someone asked you if Sam Perkins was better than Karl Malone or something. It's not just about who's better if you read the OP

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30. "It's not hard to overrate anyone"
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People have even said Michael Jordan is overrated...rabidly.

>Curry could climb even higher than that, sure, but let's not
>blow off the comparison between likely first-ballot HOF'ers
>like someone asked you if Sam Perkins was better than Karl
>Malone or something.

Use fact and logic and this question answers itself. Better player. Curry right today is better than Iverson in his prime. Statistically he's better, skill wise their about even (Ivo more athletic, Curry better fundamentally)...nothing else is there to measure if we're going player vs player.

It's not just about who's better if you
>read the OP

I also said they are both fun to watch.

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32. "RE: It's not hard to overrate anyone"
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I definitely think it's difficult to overrate Michael Jordan, one could say that by comparison Jabbar or Wilt is underrated (for the complex that have often been discussed) but I don't see a Jordan overratedness argument at all. You *can* say anything, but that doesn't make it valid.

I think Curry is on his way, we're basically talking about 110 or so games where he has been on the level or higher than Iverson was for a very long time though. What he can do shooting the basketball is obviously on another level but Iverson was better inside the arc. As playmakers they are both very skilled, more than they get their due for. I think Curry has turned the corner on him there though. Obviously Iverson was also masterful playing the passing lanes. Steph has a lot of strong qualities. It's just a matter of him sustaining this, that's what's missing.

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54. "I agree...Curry needs to put in more work to solidify the spot"
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...said as much in my original post. He needs about 4 more years at this level and he's got it IMO.

But the comparison was Curry today vs Ivo's prime. I think at this very moment, Curry is better than Iverson was at his peak/best year. Maybe slightly, but still better.

Steph is on his way to being the best shooter in NBA history IMO. He's already in the neighborhood.

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74. "the thing with curry that's remarkable is consistency"
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typically you'd look at a guy getting you 30 by driving the ball, getting to the line, etc and figure bankability would be an advantage over a guy who shoots a lotta 3s. you could try and make that argument, but it'd be pretty thin. curry is not off often, and he's way on, a lot.

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31. "He convinced me. Gimmie my dollar back."
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27. "in order for curry to have the impact that AI had he has to win more"
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chips
might sound crazy but i don't think ppl really place curry on that all time tier 1 level yet
regardless of how good his stats are

before this lil 9 game win streak and him avg. 38 pts or whatever it was
the warriors were being underrated as champions coming into this year
the finals last year were still about lebron and the warriors had to address that fact repeatedly during the offseason
meanwhile AI won 1 game against the lakers and yet that step over tyrone lue clip was getting replayed for years afterwards as if it had happened in game 7 or something
curry just ain't on that iconic level yet

hell curry didn't even win finals MVP, so his contribution to the chip ain't really being viewed on the same level as say kobe chip years, jordan etc

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29. "He's on his way, in fact I see many similarities "
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He'll never have the kind of magnetism Iverson did, few players even better ones do, but he's also a smaller guy that people relate to for that reason and he's also a guy outselling the big hitters at Nike on a relatively half-assed brand. He is to UA what AI was to Reebok.

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33. "That would imply Allen Iverson is on a top tier or 2nd tier...or 3rd..."
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35. "how many guys are in a tier?"
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easily top 50, more like top 30.

that kalb book ranked the 50 best using a combination of a complex stat formula and players interviews. it had him 29th and not all that favorable in its writeup (got the sense they wanted to rank him lower but couldn't).

i'd say 25-35 is the range. if that's second, third, fourth tier, i dont know, how many guys are in a tier?

i kinda get what spm is saying. basically though like i said, curry is in good shape to end up higher on the list, just needs to stay healthy and sustain excellence.

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37. "Not 80"
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38. "?"
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63. "ain't really trying get into that. but AI was included in the top 60"
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player revision thing TNT did fwiw
and barkley picked him #1 overall iirc
wouldn't be surprised if curry made a top ## list either though

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76. "so Curry already won more than AI but has to win MORE to match up w/him?"
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>chips
>might sound crazy

it certainly does.


but i don't think ppl really place curry on
>that all time tier 1 level yet

they don't put AI there either. difference is Curry has just entered his prime and is now reaching that level, while AI has just entered a TGIF and is reaching for a plate of buffalo wings.


>before this lil 9 game win streak and him avg. 38 pts or
>whatever it was
>the warriors were being underrated as champions coming into
>this year
>the finals last year were still about lebron and the warriors
>had to address that fact repeatedly during the offseason
>meanwhile AI won 1 game against the lakers and yet that step
>over tyrone lue clip was getting replayed for years afterwards
>as if it had happened in game 7 or something
>curry just ain't on that iconic level yet

LOL, the 2001 Finals was still about Shaq + Kobe steamrolling through the playoffs on their way to repeating & establishing a new Lakers dynasty. AI stepping over Lue in the game 1 win is nothing more than a footnote to that everywhere outside of Philly.


>hell curry didn't even win finals MVP,

AI didn't even win </stop>

so his contribution to
>the chip ain't really being viewed on the same level as say
>kobe chip years, jordan etc

Curry won NBA MVP, led the team in scoring + assists in the Finals & is universally recognized as the centerpiece of their championship team, and is currently being talked about challenging Lebron as the best player in the league. So nah.

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34. "RE: prime Iverson vs current Curry"
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>who's the better player?

individual talent: AI
team player (because hoops is a team sport): Curry

>
>who's more exciting to watch?
>

personal opinion: Iverson.


>tho I dont recall AI really having a "prime" unless u consider
>his MVP & Finals season his prime.. he was just that great
>from jump
>
>
>
>
>

the real question is who would win 1on1?
-21, 1s and 2s
-clear everything
-winners

I got Iverson winning up to 11 all 1s. If we're counting 1s AND 2s, Curry.

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36. "We already discussed this..."
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2452487&mesg_id=2452487&listing_type=search

I'll let some of you read the comments and expose yourselves. AI isn't close to Steph at this point.

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39. "LOL @ not close b/w similar banter but not the same thread"
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Are people forgetting how he could pour it on? AI had a scoring stretch like this AS A ROOKIE. He won four scoring titles (think KD, Gervin and then the real elite elites like Jordan and Wilt in that class) and was a perennial all-star. There is nobody he was "not close" to. I admit Curry is on a trajectory to be better but let's not exaggerate.

At the outset, as posed there, obviously you'd take AI. As it *seems*, when all is said and done, you'd take Steph. Good. He could be a top 10-15 player ever, that's great. I've been a big supporter of his, too.

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71. "those other guys won scoring titles shooting 50% and over"
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>Are people forgetting how he could pour it on? AI had a
>scoring stretch like this AS A ROOKIE. He won four scoring
>titles (think KD, Gervin and then the real elite elites like
>Jordan and Wilt in that class) and was a perennial all-star.
>There is nobody he was "not close" to.

Iverson shot 40-42% for his scoring titles. so yeah he could pour it on volume scoring, but efficiency-wise he was not close to them, or to Curry.

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73. "did they have to score 30+ every night bc no one else could score 10?"
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the volume thing was the sixers' very strange game plan, it wasn't like he was being asked to be bob cousy out there. their next best scorers could barely crack double digits on a regular basis.

in denver as he was starting to decline he was shooting about 46%, and recall that the first year he had to play a ton without melo because of the suspension.

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82. "Wilt and Jorn did for some of theirs"
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Durant also showed he could do it when he had that scoring streak during his MVP season while Westbrook was out for like 1/3rd of the year.


>the volume thing was the sixers' very strange game plan, it
>wasn't like he was being asked to be bob cousy out there.
>their next best scorers could barely crack double digits on a
>regular basis.

that's the style he wanted to play. they didn't exactly have to twist his arm into taking all those shots.

>in denver as he was starting to decline he was shooting about
>46%, and recall that the first year he had to play a ton
>without melo because of the suspension.

right, when he stopped throwing up 25+ shots per game his efficiency went up, but he also wasn't competing for scoring titles that way.

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86. "We're comparing Wilt to perimeter guys? Wilt/Jordan to anyone?"
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I'll readily concede Iverson was not as good as Wilt or Jordan lmao.

He was still putting up 25-27 PPG in Denver and he was also playing a lot of point guard there. Even when he was on the floor with Steve Blake, Blake basically played the Bulls Feel kinda PG, where he set up as a shooter and played off Iverson. AI was still top 10 in scoring and I think he finished third in points one of the years in Denver, so let's not act his scoring took some big hit.

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41. "Iverson"
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Curry is a much better 3pt shooter than Iverson. But Iverson is better than Curry at everything else...by a lot. If you were to put Curry on that 2001 sixers team they wouldn't have made the playoffs. Put prime Iverson on the Warriors and they'll win multiple championships. Iverson is the only small guard in his era that had centers scared every time he went to the basket, and he had perimeter defenders worried that they would end up on sportscenter every night, and he could drop 50 pretty much at will. Curry is hot right now and has potential to be an all time great, but A.I. was a very special and unique player.

  

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61. "^^^Concrete...this is how you overrate Iverson"
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http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&y1=2016&p1=curryst01&y2=2003&p2=iversal01&p3=&p4=&p5=&p6=

^^^Iverson vs Curry...first 7 years of their careers: Curry is better at FG% (though he took 800 more 3's), 3ptFG%, 2pt FG% (so he's better inside the line too), effective FG%, FT%, he's better at rebounding, assisting, and he turns the ball over less. AI got him beat at steals...by .7 per game and ppg (while playing 6 more mpg and taking 7 more shots per game)

And those transfer to the playoffs, same results except Curry closes the gap in steals, scoring and is a lil more turnover prone than Ivo.

C'mon.

http://nyloncalculus.com/2014/07/16/profile-of-a-shooter-allen-iverson-mvp/

^^^His MVP year he had a 35% usage rate while playing 42mpg and ONLY scored 31ppg

Iverson was a low 40% shooter most his career, low 30's 3pt shooter and he took damn near 30 shots to get 31ppg his mvp season.

He had a green light to gun because nobody on his team was good enough offensively to do so with the Sixers. They won MOSTLY off of defense...and just 'enough' offense. The year they went to the finals they only won 56 games in a weak ass east. And sometimes he got worked by stronger/bigger guards because he was small and skinny...passing lanes was the bulk of his defensive prowess.

If Iverson was on the 2015 Warriors, they lose because he's no where NEAR as efficient as curry is scoring wise. They don't need a gunner who shoots for the sake of shooting. And Curry on those sixers teams is even BETTER because he gets the bulk of his points off of pure shooting (not to mention he's better at Iverson in scoring from anywhere on the court sans maybe at the rim). With a 35% usage rate, in 42mpg and 28 shots per game, Curry avg's 40ppg. That level of scoring + that sixer's teams D = them having a better shot at the Lakers.

You know how I know:
Game 1 - Allen 48pts on 41 shots (43%) and 37.5% from 3 (these are Curry type numbers...Sixers win in OT by 6)
Game 2 - Allen 23pts on 29 shots (34%) and 30% from 3 (he took 10 threes by the way), Sixers lose by 9 (Curry likely shoots better = better shot at a W)
Game 3 - Allen 35pts on 30 shots (40%), 16.7% from 3 (6 shots), sixers lose by 5...Curry shoots better, Sixers win this game
Game 4 - Allen 35pts on 30 shots (40%), 25% from 3 (4 shots), Sixers lose by 14...Curry makes this game closer but they still likely lose
Game 5 - Allen 37pts on 32 shots (43%) and 27% from 3 (11 shots!), Sixers lose by 12. Curry keeps the Sixers in this game with better 3pt shooting and better 2pt shooting for the Sixers. They probably have a shot at it at the end.

^^^This...and icing on the cake...Allen shot 72% from the FT line this series. That's another few ppg for Curry as he shoots in the 90's from the line.

In the finals, Allen avg'd 35ppg...ON 32 SHOTS for 40%. While steph put up 26ppg on 20 shots at 44% (38% from 3) in 2015's finals. At the same usage rate/shot attempts, Curry scores about 40ppg in the 2001 finals.

C'mon man.

And lets not act like Curry can't finish or get his shot off on his own.

SMH...he's better than Iverson at basketball. Ya'll can have the mystique and impact angle all day, no argument there but Ivo is NOT the player ya'll romantically remember him to be.

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65. "jesus, bro, log off and get some ass"
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you shreddin' some 600-post cat's overstatements like he represents somebody. dude is entitled to his opinion, personally i don't agree with it, i kinda understand it (like i think he could have articulated it differently to sound more reasonable). but like, so what? i mean, how come you didn't say just "top 3 all time, maybe the GOAT?"

that woulda been funnier and a little bit better illustration.

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79. "lol...got no problem in the ass-getting arena"
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Just showing you how dudes go "Ivo had cornrows...REALEST BALLER EVER!!! GOAT!!!" as justification.

Steph fades him in most categories...I'd rather back that up with facts and make reasonable assumptions based on the facts. Not my fond memories of how cool a dude looked crossing someone over.


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87. "That's good to know b/w he is worlds better as a shooter, sure"
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As a playmaker, I think he's more efficient. Outside of that I don't see this "fading." You look at the number of 40-point games in a career, in a season for AI, he went out there and made the offense happen every night hell or high water. He'd obviously play a very different style of game if he were plugged into Curry's position on a team full of talented offensive players.

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105. "but he had cornrolls"
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72. "^^^Whole lot of laughably wrong in here"
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Let's just start with "Curry is a much better 3pt shooter than Iverson. But Iverson is better than Curry at everything else...by a lot." Yeah... no.

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42. "I was hoping this one wouldn't make it to OKS nm"
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43. "Curry is insane, but have any of you ever met AI? I have, dude is about"
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5'11" and a buck 160, he is TINY. He LOOKS fragile as shit, which we know he isn't. The shit he did is mind boggling when you see him in person.

  

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59. "Lulz. The fuck this gotta do with the question? "
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It's not close

Steph is thousands of times better

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44. "Only people voting AI gotta be Sixers fans and cats who don't watch. "
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Dudes voting based off sneakers sales or street cred or some bullshit.

AI was never this, man. Never.

  

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46. "right, lol..."
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>Dudes voting based off sneakers sales or street cred or some
>bullshit.

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50. "These are the people Reebok are making Questions for in 2015"
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aka the throwback sneaker nobody wants.

  

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110. "dammit. i legit lol'd at work."
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51. "You understimate the power of shitty breath"
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It fogs up thinking

  

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55. "It's a two-part question and one is subjective, so ..."
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56. "To play Devil's Advocate"
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I don't think it's unrealistic to want more longevity from Steph to make the comparison to AI. Iverson played at a high level for a number of years. Steph emerged as an upper echelon player dating back to last season.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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58. "AI was fired from the league for being a ball hoggedly loser"
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So there's that

  

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67. "damn bro, you are so obsessed that you're in here lying"
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take one off.

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69. "http://tinyurl.com/3r6caar"
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http://tinyurl.com/3r6caar

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81. "The premise of the original thread"
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was a comparison involving Iverson at his prime, not when he was slowed down and teams didn't want to sign him.

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45. "Curry better for this era. Iverson better in his era"
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I don't think Answer's game would translate as well to this era unless he adapted, which he seemed hesitant to do. I think Curry's shooting translates to any era.

Iversons numbers were off the charts good in his prime, but Steph's efficiency especially given the shots he takes is goddam silly.

Iverson could get anywhere he wanted on the court and get a decent shot. Steph on the other hand can shoot from anywhere on the court.

What kind of tips it to Steph for me (and this is purely preference) is the fact that I watch him cross people, step back, and hit a 3 over dudes like Ant Davis and he does it regularly.

Fuck it. I'm not voting, but gun to my head my preference is Steph.

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64. "Lulz. Steph better at the game of basketball. "
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Period


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48. "lol"
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49. "Good reminder of how hilarious Philadelphians are. "
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Eric Lindros or Alex Ovechkin?

Ryan Howard or Albert Pujols?

Ricky Watters or Adrian Peterson?

  

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53. "Let's not stretch it"
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Peak Lindros vs peak Ovechkin is the only vaguely interesting one there and even then you wouldn't get too much homerism.

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57. "I think its closer than folks want to admit right now. "
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But I am picking Curry. If he finishes the season as hot as he is right now, then its historic.

  

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66. "this is curry moment right now"
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how bout curry vs zeke, or curry vs payton or any other great guard
realistically how many players can you put over curry especially when modern efficiency standards will be used
and we are all caught up in the moment watching him every night (vs remembering foggy memories)

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68. "the thing that bugs me out is that AI went for 40 damn near at will"
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and people are in here acting like he was world b free or something.

like i said i like both guys and i think it's cheap that we keep having these comparison threads with the same people saying the same shit.

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60. "I'm realizing how much I miss dumb, stinky Philly fas"
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You stinky ass dudes and your shitty taste in everything
food and sports

Iverson vs. Steph!?!?

Bwaahhaahhahaha

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75. "ill take the one who can stroke it any place"
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anytime like janet jackson, i love allen iverson's game but everytime curry shoots im expecting it to go in and be suprised if it don't

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77. "Curry is in straight himalayan salt mode right now"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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78. "This one is easy. Steph all day."
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Curry can play his natural position and the 2. AI was never a true PG.

The only question getting "answered" here is which style of hooping you like.

Highlight style or WINNING style.

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83. "Curry, BUT ai with current rules would be unstoppable "
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88. "He could just live at the foul line"
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94. "^^^^^^^^"
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and Curry with hand checking would be a MUCH less effective player

  

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95. "I didn't know A.I.'s prime was 20 years ago"
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97. "This, man. "
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84. "So who's harder to guard?"
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90. "the guy who makes more of his shots"
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Curry's shooting is the edge. They both can/could do otherworldly things, but Curry might be the best shooter of all time.

  

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85. "The shooting percentages alone make it an easy choice for me. Curry."
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89. "dude is shooting damn near 90/50/50 .. like wtf"
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still really tough to choose though


  

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91. "RE: prime Iverson vs current Curry"
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Curry is better now than Iverson ever was.

That said, the "it's not even close" people clearly have an agenda.


Iverson was one of the best basketball players ever at his peak and would be completely unstoppable in today's league.

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96. "this is all you needed to say"
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>Curry is better now than Iverson ever was.

  

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92. "Allen "The Answer" Iverson all day. How soon folks forget."
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98. "AI in 2015 is basically James Harden but less corny"
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Though I suppose corny is subjective and I'm sure some surely thought AI's act was corny (I didnt, I admittedly proudly rocked the Questions...)

  

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99. "you are a fucking lunatic. n/m"
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101. "you mean the guy who challenged curry for mvp last year?"
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and by most expert accounts should have won?

i mean i am #TeamSteph all day on that one, that seems like an odd way to dismiss a comparison, by, i dunno, coming up with the guy who was right on the other guy's heels 10 seconds ago.

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103. "If WestBrick & HarDone had a baby, it would grow up to be AI"
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Harden is a low energy foul baiting bitch that has been exposed in the playoffs year after year.

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111. "huge differences in FG and 3pt FG % in Curry's favor"
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100. "Hoya Saxa"
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Curry is a better player. Can't really argue that. But from the first game I say Iverson play against U-MASS I knew he was something special, and I've been a fan ever since. Besides, he's a Hoya, and that is the one team I can never turn on, so... there's that.

Hell, I remember when Steph fried G'Town in the 2nd quarter of the NCAA when he was at Davidson and nobody knew him (just that he was Dell's boy). I'm still a bit salty over that, but not enough to acknowledge the man has skills

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102. "LOL. Niggas was still hanging on in Nov? "
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106. "You ain't slick"
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114. "Of course I'm not. Nothing about this is slick. "
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Do you ever get anything?

  

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112. "fish breath takes time to cure. n/m"
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107. "Iverson was a better athlete, but Curry PRACTICES."
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108. "interesting..."
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I would say that Curry is a better shooter.... Iverson is a better scorer...

but right now...Curry is a better player because he's more of a playmaker than AI was...

AI was a bit of a "volume scorer" ...and a great player...whereas Curry is more efficient

  

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109. "Ya think?"
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>I would say that Curry is a better shooter....

  

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RaFromQueens
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113. "If we wanna go all in on with the prisoner of the moment steeze"
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Curry top 5 all time

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116. "let's not forget game 1 2001 finals, 60-point game, etc"
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AI had his share of WOW HOLY SHIT moments

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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DJ Wade-O
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Tue May-10-16 05:59 PM

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117. "I told ya'll Curry passed AI last year"
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This isn't even a debate.

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