I cannot believe believe this narrative continues year in and year out with a guy that more or less is the fucking GM. We're going on like 5 years with the same fucking plea. Meanwhile, dude has been presented with the extremely rare opportunity to carefully dictate his future while playing fantasy GM in the process. It's disgusting.
LeBron, as player/GM, should've known that both Love and Kyrie were injury prone before he went back to Cleveland. I knew this from my couch. I don't want to hear ANY shit about him crying for help. He put himself in this situation and the media (it'll be more that just SAS) is showering him with sympathy. This dude gonna eat it up all the way to Fagency next summer. And good for him. He should. But fuck the lame ass media for enabling such a narrative to continue.
>people needing to stay healthy don't mean "more help"
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
8. "It's SAS today. More prominent "journalists" will join in three months" In response to Reply # 3
happens every year.
Problem is, they'll conveniently omit the fact that dude is forging his own path and controlling his destiny in an unprecedented way (and good for him, he earned the right). They'll blame the owner (as SAS did today with the Tristan situation), the bench, the coach, the players. Meanwhile, the guy who strategically put himself in this situation gets to eat up the sympathy and seamlessly bounce to another city while failing to accomplish his main objective. *That's* what angers me. The media stays enabling this. SAS won't be the only one either.
21. "you know what, dogg? y'all choked against bron, 0.25 of kyrie & help" In response to Reply # 8
just shut yo ass up and stop throwing shots. ya got up 2-1, started partying and been scavenger posting ever since...sitting there hopin nyggas don't win because y'all ain't gon EVER BEAT LEBRON.
there...i just got to the heart of the matter, so we can stop pretending what this thread is actually about.
23. "we absolutely choked. it was embarrassing. and?" In response to Reply # 21
doesn't take away from the fact that lebron being coddled by prominent talking heads is a bad thing.
this is not an indictment on kyrie. i'm pro-kyrie. your boy will be the one (along with a few others) that will be thrown under the bus at the end of the season if a championship isn't won. that'll be unfair and feelings will be hurt on here when no one talks about it.
4. "I'm assuming this was for his radio show." In response to Reply # 0
So he could troll people and call him just for argument's sake. I can't imagine he'd try and make this argument on camera for that First Take show of his.
"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.
dula dibiasi Member since Apr 05th 2004 21925 posts
Fri Oct-16-15 12:34 PM
5. "fuck stephen a harvey." In response to Reply # 0
dude is a ninny, a charlatan and a fucking tool. never forget. his views in no way reflect those of actual thinking people.
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it is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - sherlock holmes
11. "he shoulda chose healthy help. Just like melo shouldn't have chose amare" In response to Reply # 0
niggas be consistent please.
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
22. "why can't you be consistent tho?" In response to Reply # 20
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
41. "Right bc kyrie been mr. CaL ripken all these years lol" In response to Reply # 39 Sat Oct-17-15 12:05 PM by Cenario
Amare was an mvp candidate when melo got there and then missed playoff games with a bad back
The next year he missed games bc he punched a fire extinguisher casing.
But melo shoulda known those injuries were coming.
You sound real stupid.
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
47. "not only should melo have known, so should dolan" In response to Reply # 41 Sat Oct-17-15 06:43 PM by Basaglia
>Amare was an mvp candidate when melo got there and then >missed playoff games with a bad back
MVP candidate...the fuck's that mean, other than you fucking cysing a good year? knicks finished nearly .500. how the fuck was he ever seriously considered an MVP candidate? shut your dumb low-expectation ass up.
tired of you dumb mad ass knicks fans always getting to think you just get to say wrong shit cause you mad. i'll accept that kinda shit from a woman, but not you niggas.
>The next year he missed games bc he punched a fire >extinguisher casing.
fuck i care?
>But melo shoulda known those injuries were coming.
he should known amare's knee was fried, because HE HAD MICROFRACTURE SURGERY. nigga eye was fucked up, too. and his back. ALL BEFORE THE KNICKS OVERPAID FOR HIM.
kyrie was 22 and had no serious injuries. neither did love. you mad as shit.
50. "Amare was putting up mvp caliber numbers " In response to Reply # 47
That's what I meant.
Amare missed playoff games the first 2 seasons bc of his back and hand. Them other injuries came after year 2 with the knicks. Just like kyrie injuries with bron are new (i'm assuming)
Why are you talking about what dolan should have known in reference to melo? You think dolan told melo about amare medical records before trading and signing melo?? Dumb
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
54. "I misspoke. I know he wasn't an mvp candidate. I meant mvp numbers" In response to Reply # 52
Like I said his injuries the first 2 seasons had nothing to do with that.
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
25. "I'm not mad at this. " In response to Reply # 11
granted, neither Melo nor LeBron KNEW. they saw talent.
and people frying Melo for Fire Extinguisher #### not panning out can eat da poo poo. at the time, it appeared to be a haul. enough to stop the Death Star? probably not, but it represented a proper move forward.
I'm confident that LeBron will cash in on his "help".
26. "of course you aren't...you a fan not a stan." In response to Reply # 25 Fri Oct-16-15 03:08 PM by Cenario
.
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
46. "I was being sarcastic lol" In response to Reply # 42
But if people want to hold melo to that standard the same has to hold for bron. As far as the knicks decision to sign amare, in hindsight it was a terrible deal. At the time, it wasn't ideal but it was understandable based on the fact that cleared the cap room but struck out on all the big time free agents.
That being said, no one can act surprised that amare broke down when a and how we did the last 3seasons.
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
49. "nigga, y'all sorry and it was a bad decision. simple as that" In response to Reply # 46
talmbout some damn same standard as if bron ain't go right back to the finals. if melo EVER makes the finals, you niggas would cyse that shit like his 1 outta 12 scoring title average.
51. "Lebron is the best player in the league right?" In response to Reply # 49
He should be able to do that with the same niggas melo led to 54 wins.
Then them niggas faltered bc them niggas was bums. But you wanna cyse some jr fucking smith as a legit #2 man. Nigga everyone saw through that bulllish. Nigga, jr smith??????? Bwahaahaa gtfoh.
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
55. "what I remember is in a deciding game #5" In response to Reply # 51
Game tied 75 all with 9 minutes to go young spice turned into the best player on the planet.. but of course that doesn't fly with the narrative.
Bottom line is no one was saying the Cavs didn't have enough when they went up 2-1 and with the series tied 2-2 the winner of game #5 was likely going to win it all.
These narratives aren't allowing Curry to get the shine he deserves for one of the greatest playoff performances we ever seen which decided the outcome of that series.
56. "That's def true. Curry played like a stud there, lbj didnt" In response to Reply # 55
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
67. "Bags cmon bro.. not like this.. Bron is 2-4.. why we doin this? - lol" In response to Reply # 66
Besides, what makes you so sure that the L column won't grow instead of the W column? - lol. There's a lot of young players coming & Bron can't hold them off forever man.. In fact, he couldn't hold them off last year.
Again his back is concerning to me especially for a guy of his size and athleticism. We'll see what happens but in spite of that nothing changes the fact that Kobe got 5. Not even sure why you need to bring him up. Jordan is retired. He still got 6 so I don't really get it - lol
Either way be easy man.. Not gonna fight with you about it all night..
69. "yeah...two titles at 30...he's the worst. kobe washed, nigga. " In response to Reply # 67 Sat Oct-17-15 09:27 PM by Basaglia
like, i'm supposed to care about 2-4. he got two titles. he 30. um, he's doing okay. now, 5 years from now, if he ain't got a couple more, THEN you might be on to something.
the nigga could end 5-10 or 6-12 for all i fucking care. what difference will it make? titles are titles.
we've entered a real stupid ass phase of fandom when niggas tryna penalize CHAMPIONS for the number of second place finishes they got. jack nicklaus MUST BE trash, by your logic.
i'm SORRY bron is good enough to actually carry shitty and injured teams teams to the finals while kobe could only pad his stats and either not make the playoffs AT ALL or get his ass booted early.
now THAT is a narrative that people should retire.
he's signing 1 yr opt-outs in order to maximize his earnings. that's it. the chances that he strands cleveland and takes that image hit a second time are as close to zero as it gets.
he'll retire as a cav.
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it is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - sherlock holmes
24. "^^^Basically (c) Redman" In response to Reply # 19
>he's signing 1 yr opt-outs in order to maximize his earnings.
He's making back all the money he "walked away from" when he signed with the Heat. He knows damn well that the cap is going to keep increasing.
The '16-'17 is the last season of the current CBA, right? And next off-season the cap gets increased over more, right? LeBron will opt out his contract one last time in summer of '16, and sign his last huge contract after that. Like, for the most years and most money possible.
dula dibiasi Member since Apr 05th 2004 21925 posts
Fri Oct-16-15 03:07 PM
27. "no way he abandons those fans a second time" In response to Reply # 24
and puts himself thru that whole image repair process again. no one can convince me otherwise.
for what? he and his family love NE OH, and there's not a better basketball situation out there for him. that team's stacked and the owner's spending like crazy.
he'll spend the rest of his career with cleveland, i'd bet anything on it.
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it is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - sherlock holmes
29. "Yep. He doesn't want to deal with that nightmare a second time" In response to Reply # 27
He went to Miami because it was, at the time, a once in a lifetime scenario. Now, with the NBA basically changing the CBA to decrease the chances happen again, and the cap rising so much that hypothetically any team can afford to sign two or more max players if they line things up correctly, he staying in Cleveland until the end.
31. "Trade TT on a max deal for pieces aka BRON NEEDS MOAR HELP." In response to Reply # 0 Fri Oct-16-15 11:00 PM by Kira
Two all-stars isn't enough to win a title so give him three. Convince FEEL to wreck NY some more and trade for TT or convince another team to trade for TT.
Bron needs more help point blank. MORE HELP FOR BRON is what the Cavs need to do. I'm sick and tired of the Cavs not getting Bron help. No one wants to play in Cleveland like Kevin Love and JR Smith and Kyrie Irving and Timothy Mozgov so we need to get our guy more help to offset the lost performance.
The fuck is griff doing? BRON NEEDS MORE HELP so please get him more help.
*EDIT*
Whatever we do, please keep Bron away from GMing the team. Lebron the GM is the worst GM in league history. Larry Hughes is his fault. Donyell Marshall is his fault. Every bad free agent decision during his first run is his fault.
*EDIT*
We over the cap anyway so BRON NEEDS MOAR HELP anyway. Get him another all-star to go along with Ky and KLove. TT for another mid tier all-star or Melo if TT gets a max deal.
71. "I actually agree... in the NFL, then again, THAT NFL" In response to Reply # 38
allowed you to keep your teams intact. Still, the NFL is so very volatile.
fuck the rest of the NFC East. I wanted Buffalo to beat every single one of those bum ass teams, especially that fuckin' field goal SEC-in-the-NFL ass bullshit one they faced the first time
75. "o no doubt - the 5 straight Finals appearances is nothing special either..." In response to Reply # 74 Sun Oct-18-15 02:11 PM by Vex_id
We like to throw the ECF streak out there to stunt, but the 5 straight Final Appearances?
H I S T O R I C & U N P R E C E D E N T E D:
"LeBron is the first player to make five straight Finals since the 1960's Celtics legends: The Boston Celtics ruled the NBA in the 1960s thanks to Bill Russell, Satch Sanders, KC Jones and Sam Jones. All four of those players went to the NBA Finals five straight times and now James joins their elite company.
Take a minute to absorb that information. NBA legends like Michael Jordan and Larry Bird have never accomplished what LeBron is doing by going to the NBA Finals five years in a row."
~excerpt from the World of Actuality where everyone cares about Greatness
dula dibiasi Member since Apr 05th 2004 21925 posts
Sun Oct-18-15 04:54 PM
77. "fam said 'we'. lulz." In response to Reply # 75
>We like to throw the ECF streak out there to stunt, but the 5 >straight Final Appearances? > >H I S T O R I C & U N P R E C E D E N T E D: > >"LeBron is the first player to make five straight Finals since >the 1960's Celtics legends: The Boston Celtics ruled the NBA >in the 1960s thanks to Bill Russell, Satch Sanders, KC Jones >and Sam Jones. All four of those players went to the NBA >Finals five straight times and now James joins their elite >company."
...so it's precedented?
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it is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - sherlock holmes
it is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - sherlock holmes
GMs Predict Championship For Cavs, Regular Season MVP For LeBron James
Oct 20, 2015 10:35 AM
NBA general managers predict the Cleveland Cavaliers to win the 2016 NBA Finals with 53.6 percent of the vote. The San Antonio Spurs rank second with 25.0 percent, followed by the Golden State Warriors with 17.9 percent and the Oklahoma City Thunder at 3.6 percent.
LeBron James is the prohibitive favorite to win MVP at 39.3 percent, ahead of Anthony Davis with 25.0 percent. Both Kevin Durant and James Harden received 10.7 percent, while Stephen Curry and Russell Westbrook each received 7.1 percent.
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