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"Steph Curry or (Bad Boy) Isaiah Thomas?"


  

          

better talent? better career? all of that...

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You can't be asking who has a better career.
Aug 22nd 2015
1
He can only be asking who is the better shooter.
Aug 22nd 2015
3
      I mean, I guess Curry *could* win 3-4 more titles, 10 more ASGs, etc.
Aug 22nd 2015
5
      Who's the better ball handler?
Aug 23rd 2015
10
           Zeke.
Aug 24th 2015
13
           Zeke, and by quite a bit actually.
Aug 24th 2015
17
           b, b, b, but...they show Steph dribbling TWO basketballs at a time...
Aug 24th 2015
18
           'quite a bit' huh?
Aug 24th 2015
20
                Curry also cut down his assists by 0.8
Aug 25th 2015
24
                     my bad, he cut down his TOs by .7
Aug 25th 2015
28
                          Bwahahaha
Aug 25th 2015
30
           I think we're at the point of overrating Curry's handles
Aug 25th 2015
25
           Curry has incredible handles when it comes to help getting a shot
Aug 25th 2015
26
           Only active player close to Zeke's handles is Kyrie
Aug 25th 2015
27
           ^^^
Aug 25th 2015
33
           I kinda blame And 1 for this even being a question
Aug 25th 2015
29
                White chocolate's handles > Tony Parker's (c) Millennials
Aug 25th 2015
31
                J Will is a bad example, and that statement is unironically true
Jun 10th 2018
44
                     RE: J Will is a bad example, and that statement is unironically true
Jun 11th 2018
66
                Zeke's career ave TOs >>>> Curry's
Aug 25th 2015
32
                     hand-checking
Jun 10th 2018
45
-_-
Aug 22nd 2015
2
lol, smh, WTF, gtfoh, dts, ROFL, lmao, ttbs, etc.
Aug 22nd 2015
4
lol
Aug 22nd 2015
6
Zeke,
Aug 22nd 2015
7
i don't understand why this is being asked now
Aug 22nd 2015
8
Steph has to stay healthy and keep winning.
Aug 22nd 2015
9
The only check in Steph's column is shooting
Aug 24th 2015
11
Zeke doesn't have a Reg. Season MVP
Aug 24th 2015
12
      Guys who won MVPs during Zeke's prime: Magic, Michael, Larry
Aug 24th 2015
16
      He won NCAA MOP when the Hoosiers won the chip too
Aug 25th 2015
21
Isaiah is the UW guy
Aug 24th 2015
14
This too, lol
Aug 24th 2015
15
Ba is going to want to fight you
Aug 24th 2015
19
Zeke still has him at this point
Aug 25th 2015
22
As of now, you have to go w/Isaiah but Curry's on pace to surpass him
Aug 25th 2015
23
Burrito Bowl with a side of Petty
Jul 01st 2016
34
He couldn't even deal with Isiah's mentee. SMH.
Jul 01st 2016
35
WHAT SAY YOU?!
Jun 08th 2018
36
Better player is, I guess, debatable.
Jun 08th 2018
37
      i dont think thats true tbh
Jun 09th 2018
41
      Yeah but G-State's rise is just as remarkable
Jun 11th 2018
49
           agreed on the rise. just two different animals i think.
Jun 11th 2018
50
      No, he wouldn't. And no there's no debate
Jun 11th 2018
47
Love Zeke however its Curry, he changed the game
Jun 08th 2018
38
Steph got the resume and the game. He better.
Jun 08th 2018
39
#2 pg all-time
Jun 08th 2018
40
If he stays healthy shit will be a formality
Jun 10th 2018
42
Yeah this post gets funnier every year
Jun 10th 2018
43
All betters inside
Jun 10th 2018
46
better defense: Zeke
Jun 11th 2018
48
and not close AT ALL
Jun 11th 2018
52
i dont think Steph is a better scorer. shooter? unquestionably
Jun 11th 2018
51
      RE: i dont think Steph is a better scorer. shooter? unquestionably
Jun 11th 2018
53
      how is steph not a better scorer?
Jun 12th 2018
84
           it really isn't even close.
Jun 12th 2018
87
                steph's had a lot of guys to help get him shots
Jun 12th 2018
100
                     but even in steph's early years
Jun 12th 2018
102
stop playing. zeke in the rearview, y'all.
Jun 11th 2018
54
RE: stop playing. zeke in the rearview, y'all.
Jun 11th 2018
55
zeke was a better rebounder? so you're just making stuff up now?
Jun 12th 2018
86
You mean like acknowledging Jorn was 1-9 in the playoffs w/no Pip?
Jun 11th 2018
58
      https://tinyurl.com/ycu9z8zk
Jun 11th 2018
59
      yea the selective nostalgia is wild.
Jun 11th 2018
60
           addressed here (with, predictably, no response):
Jun 11th 2018
61
                Dula. You post like an ugly nigga, and it concerns me.
Jun 11th 2018
67
                     you are so sad. its like watching a turtle on its back :(
Jun 12th 2018
69
                     I got your inbox. I'll pass on the threesome offer, I'm good
Jun 12th 2018
71
                          ah see you blew it :(
Jun 12th 2018
73
                               Just stay out of my DMs with your nose tackle threesomes.
Jun 12th 2018
75
                     yea this is the part that gets egregiously overlooked:
Jun 12th 2018
74
                     It's comedy: Bulls were CONTENDERS with NO JORDAN.
Jun 12th 2018
76
                     cant tell if this is a compliment or a diss 🤔
Jun 12th 2018
77
                     RE: yea this is the part that gets egregiously overlooked:
Jun 12th 2018
80
                     lol I'm great - my agenda from 8 years ago has succeeded.
Jun 12th 2018
81
                          RE: lol I'm great - my agenda from 8 years ago has succeeded.
Jun 12th 2018
90
                     so we're just lying now?
Jun 12th 2018
89
                          nah - that was a mistake on my part.
Jun 12th 2018
91
                               everyone misremembers that for some reason.
Jun 12th 2018
97
                     lulz
Jun 12th 2018
88
                          You having a rough Tinder week, my dude?
Jun 12th 2018
92
                          nah fam, just had a threesome in costa rica. la vida es buena!
Jun 12th 2018
95
                               https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--oPyx5eC5a4/UlMeYW2wNDI/AAAAAAAAAF4/E...
Jun 12th 2018
101
                                    https://media3.giphy.com/media/oDpMAzRBnTMe4/giphy.gif
Jun 12th 2018
103
                          RE: lulz
Jun 12th 2018
93
everyone saying zeke is making a point for point comparison...
Jun 11th 2018
56
in the history of ever doing it.
Jun 11th 2018
57
Problem is...shoot first PGs
Jun 11th 2018
63
      but the specific questions were...
Jun 11th 2018
64
           Yeah, still Zeke today
Jun 11th 2018
65
                that wasn't the question
Jun 14th 2018
105
                     a scoring guard who is not the primary ball handler
Jun 14th 2018
106
Zeke still go 'eem...but it gets closer every year
Jun 11th 2018
62
I'm 33, grew up in Michigan and barely remember watching zeke play
Jun 12th 2018
68
im about to be 36 and i can just barely remember the 87 ECF
Jun 12th 2018
70
RE: I'm 33, grew up in Michigan and barely remember watching zeke play
Jun 12th 2018
79
I'm in my 40's and I remember Zeke very well, Steph is a better shooter....
Jun 12th 2018
96
its times like these I appreciate being an old head
Jun 12th 2018
72
steph got it now. people get passed *shrug*
Jun 12th 2018
78
^^^ There's a man with integrity (c) Billy Hoyle
Jun 12th 2018
82
Oh wow.
Jun 12th 2018
83
some people stand firm in their principles
Jun 12th 2018
85
      a fat lever disciple before Klay Thompson got to GSW (c) Ba
Jun 12th 2018
94
           He was tho. He's a 3-time champ now.
Jun 12th 2018
104
Right. Three years ago, my posts were accurate...
Jun 12th 2018
99
Steph may have passed him now.....
Jun 12th 2018
98

Frank Longo
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1. "You can't be asking who has a better career."
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You mean, "Do you think Curry will stay on top for a long time and challenge Thomas eventually for better career?" I'm assuming.

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3. "He can only be asking who is the better shooter. "
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Because any other question you could come up with is
laughable

  

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5. "I mean, I guess Curry *could* win 3-4 more titles, 10 more ASGs, etc."
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It's just reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally unlikely.

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10. "Who's the better ball handler?"
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Does Zeke have an MVP? He does have a college championship & Finals MVP tho...

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13. "Zeke."
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And Zeke not having an MVP doesn't mean Curry isn't way behind him in terms of career accomplishment.

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17. "Zeke, and by quite a bit actually. "
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18. "b, b, b, but...they show Steph dribbling TWO basketballs at a time..."
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before every game!!!!

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20. "'quite a bit' huh?"
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zeke speaking on it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXyFLHE4-I8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qc8sj4NE6A


curry's handles is a combo of nash & parker imo. he cut down his TOs last season by 1.

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24. "Curry also cut down his assists by 0.8"
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Curry handled the ball less, because the team
brought in more ball handlers

So he got more assists, and got fewer turnovers

At no point, ever, did Isiah have the ball handlers
around him that Steph did


  

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28. "my bad, he cut down his TOs by .7"
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and the drop in assists is due to elite coaching and the emergence of Draymond Green and HBarnes.

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30. "Bwahahaha"
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>and the drop in assists is due to elite coaching and the
>emergence of Draymond Green and HBarnes.

No, idiot, the drop in assists is because of the additional
ball handling from contract year Draymond, Livingstone,
Barbosa and a (finally) healthy Bogut

Steph's team was considerably better than his team last
year, which is why he could focus on different things

  

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25. "I think we're at the point of overrating Curry's handles"
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they're really good, obviously. but we've gone a little overboard. it's amazing that he has those handles in combination with his shooting, but when people talk about best in the league or all time great handles, that's doing too much

  

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26. "Curry has incredible handles when it comes to help getting a shot"
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there were times last year I saw teams press him with pretty good results. Zeke had all time great true PG handles.

  

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27. "Only active player close to Zeke's handles is Kyrie "
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Steph has excellent ones obviously but Zeke's were next level in that he could use them in any situation or body position. The only dude close to that is Ky

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33. "^^^"
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29. "I kinda blame And 1 for this even being a question"
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Maybe Timmy hard away and AI to a certain extent too


Because to the younger generation a great ball handler= breaking ankles with crossovers.


Zeke had textbook ball Handling ability. You pretty much could Not trap him


One is sexier than the other. But we talking true ball handling? Zeke all day

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31. "White chocolate's handles > Tony Parker's (c) Millennials"
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It's such an embarrassment



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44. "J Will is a bad example, and that statement is unironically true"
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maybe Rafer Alston or Sebastian Telfair, but J Will masked excellent fundamentals behind the flash

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66. "RE: J Will is a bad example, and that statement is unironically true"
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Agreed.


I'm a Spurs fan and Tony's handle is not particularly noteworthy for an NBA PG.

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32. "Zeke's career ave TOs >>>> Curry's"
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and yes, i myself post up players behind half court when pushing up the ball...just like Zeke. i just don't have the ability to handle the ball like today's players.

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45. "hand-checking"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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2. "-_-"
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4. "lol, smh, WTF, gtfoh, dts, ROFL, lmao, ttbs, etc."
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6. "lol"
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7. "Zeke,"
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try to catch early nba isiah on classic, steph wasn't on his level. i'm not shitting on steph, he's great but he's not isiah.

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8. "i don't understand why this is being asked now"
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In about 2022, this could be worth discussing.

  

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9. "Steph has to stay healthy and keep winning."
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11. "The only check in Steph's column is shooting"
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Everything else is Zeke. PERIOD!!! Zeke is one of the most underrated cats to ever play.

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12. "Zeke doesn't have a Reg. Season MVP"
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but Zeke got a Finals MVP & college ring.

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16. "Guys who won MVPs during Zeke's prime: Magic, Michael, Larry"
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So, yeah

  

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21. "He won NCAA MOP when the Hoosiers won the chip too"
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14. "Isaiah is the UW guy"
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15. "This too, lol"
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19. "Ba is going to want to fight you"
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Like, literally show up at your crib and have a fist fight on your lawn.

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22. "Zeke still has him at this point"
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But no one else. I

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23. "As of now, you have to go w/Isaiah but Curry's on pace to surpass him"
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in the not-to-distant future

And Steph is playing in an era where the point guard position is better than its ever been and he's considered the best of the current Point gawds

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34. "Burrito Bowl with a side of Petty"
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35. "He couldn't even deal with Isiah's mentee. SMH. "
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____________________________________________________


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36. "WHAT SAY YOU?!"
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37. "Better player is, I guess, debatable. "
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But Zeke trades his career for Stephs in a damn heartbeat.

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41. "i dont think thats true tbh"
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steph' list of accomplishments is longer and fuller to be sure, and by my own standards has eclipsed Zeke in the all-time hierarchy. better player? i dunno really. maybe.

but looking back on the Bad Boys, they transcended hoop a little bit and had a very clearly defined arc as a group. they had to check off EVERY box before they got to the mountain top and then stayed there for a couple years before the front court aged out.

i don't think Isiah would trade his teammates or experience

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49. "Yeah but G-State's rise is just as remarkable"
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>steph' list of accomplishments is longer and fuller to be
>sure, and by my own standards has eclipsed Zeke in the
>all-time hierarchy. better player? i dunno really. maybe.
>
>but looking back on the Bad Boys, they transcended hoop a
>little bit and had a very clearly defined arc as a group.
>they had to check off EVERY box before they got to the
>mountain top and then stayed there for a couple years before
>the front court aged out.
>
>i don't think Isiah would trade his teammates or experience

While I agree, Zeke wouldn't trade his career. The Warriors pretty much came out of nowhere and they've dominated the league's tougher conference for 4 yrs running. 2 of which were without KD. And they've had to face the leagues best player in the finals for 4 straight yrs.

Imagine if the pistons stayed relevant/contenders when the Bulls came of age and Detroit had to face Jordan every year while Boston was still title good and NY was on the come up...that's what G-State has done.

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50. "agreed on the rise. just two different animals i think."
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>While I agree, Zeke wouldn't trade his career. The Warriors
>pretty much came out of nowhere and they've dominated the
>league's tougher conference for 4 yrs running. 2 of which were
>without KD. And they've had to face the leagues best player
>in the finals for 4 straight yrs.

in my mind, the difference comes down to the periodic reshuffling, and i launch Bron hate based on the same premise. Duncan retired, he wasnt clipped. OKC lost 2 of their big 3 in a 3 year window. Clips stayed injured. Houston couldnt find anyone to pair with Harden until the last two years (counting Capela first). same in the east, where Bron and his competitors coalesced twice. that affects more than just the team adding pieces...those pieces came from somewhere. Bron has played with the best guard in the East for 8 years running, and he accomplished that by taking his talents to wherever that guard was when he felt like leaving.

>Imagine if the pistons stayed relevant/contenders when the
>Bulls came of age and Detroit had to face Jordan every year
>while Boston was still title good and NY was on the come
>up...that's what G-State has done.

that wasnt realistically possible within the culture of the league at that time imo. the only team able to do that was LAL and only because of the insane longevity of Kareem. i feel like back then you built your team, waited for them to mature,and then blitzed the fuck out of your window. without LA adding David Robinson, or Boston adding Charles Barkley, or the Pistons adding Patrick Ewing etc etc...none of those teams were ever going to extend their windows.

it was just different back then, neither better nor worse, but different. is your imaginary scenario any tougher than
- having to come of age with a titan like Boston in your way in your own conference
- all the while staying sharp enough to avoid getting tapped by HoFers like Ewing, Barkley, and Nique
- getting rewarded with Showtime, playing well enough to win, and taking an L under a few smh worthy circumstances
- loading up and doing all of that AGAIN before closing the book on Bird AND Magic
- then loading up and doing it AGAIN under year 3 of the Jordan Assault
- all the while, your "biggest" deal that whole time is trading old Dantley for old Aguirre
?

im not sure it is and the last part is mostly why. moves back then were like trying to wrest B&O Railroad from my Depression-raised grandma in a family Monopoly game. no one wanted to deal with the Pistons, and they literally punched too many people in the face to ever want to share locker rooms with them.

GSW has achieved more of what i have previously referred to as "greatness" and i won't ever deny that. Steph has piled on accolades that Isiah never saw, at a historical rate.

but i dont think Steph has walked a tougher road than Zeke did, and i dont think he will ever have to.

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47. "No, he wouldn't. And no there's no debate"
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Zeke a MUCH better player

  

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38. "Love Zeke however its Curry, he changed the game"
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and I'm a huge Zeke fan however Curry turned the NBA out like a Pimp.

he is a standard and he got as Many Rangs as Lebron in half the trips and the cat done made his mark already, scary part he still got about 3-4 year run left if healthy and Motivated.

Zeke was badd all the way around however Curry you just see History in your eyes

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39. "Steph got the resume and the game. He better. "
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I have said for about a year now Steph is probably the 2nd best pg already imo.

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40. "#2 pg all-time"
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He just leaped Zeke and Stockton

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42. "If he stays healthy shit will be a formality "
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Lot of dudes in here sound old and mad.

  

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43. "Yeah this post gets funnier every year"
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46. "All betters inside"
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Better leader, Zeke
Better true point guard, Zeke
Better shooter, Steph
Better scorer, Steph
Better passer/creator, Zeke
Tougher player, Zeke
Better career thus far, sort of irrelevant, it will be Steph in the end if it isn't already.
Better talent, hmmmm, tough one, they are contrasting styles of player. I'll go Zeke because of his all-around game but Curry's shooting ability (and his handle is nice, too) is almost enough of a weapon to swing it in his favor.

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48. "better defense: Zeke"
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52. "and not close AT ALL"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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51. "i dont think Steph is a better scorer. shooter? unquestionably"
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but scorer...i dunno bro. Isiah used to put the ball in the hoop in some truly outlandish ways

dude made the over-the-backbkard teardrop from behind the hoop into part of his repertoire

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53. "RE: i dont think Steph is a better scorer. shooter? unquestionably"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84Cht1O-WHE

Peep the 30 footer too

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84. "how is steph not a better scorer?"
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he scores considerably more and is much more efficient.

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87. "it really isn't even close."
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zeke's career high ppg was 22.9. steph's equaled or topped that 6x.

zeke's career high ts% was .554. steph's WORST year was .568.

zeke had 98 career 30 pt games. steph's already at 148.

nostalgia is a motherfucker.

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100. "steph's had a lot of guys to help get him shots"
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in steph's MVP seasons, even before Durant, he was getting assisted on 35% of his 2s and 55% of his 3s

unfortunately those numbers dont exist for Zeke, but that seems like something from which Zeke did not benefit. Joe D averaged 4.9, 5.7, and 4.7 apg in 88, 89, 90. nobody else ever had more than 3 other than microwave, who backed both of them up.

there was no iguodala or draymond (or durant today) giving legit tertiary/quaternary distribution to the point that Curry can play off ball a LOT. Isiah HAD to have the ball in his hands.

i dunno man. i dont think isiah's numbers are reflective of what he could do today with ball movement like the warriors have.

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102. "but even in steph's early years "
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he'd already well eclipsed zeke's career highs in efficiency.

and he matched zeke's career high ppg (22.9) in year 4.

that's with no iggy, no KD, minimal draymond (13 mpg) and a pretty vanilla offensive scheme.

and back then he wasn't being as heavily assisted (27% assisted on 2's for yrs 1-4), he was creating his own.

idk, i don't think they're particularly close as scorers. steph's edge there is titanic. larger than zeke's edge in any other category.

for me, the whole is greater than the sum of the individual parts anyway. steph's 2016 >>> by leaps and bounds than any season zeke ever had, even the ones that ended in titles.

steph's already ahead for me, right today. in 5 years it won't even be a serious discussion.




>in steph's MVP seasons, even before Durant, he was getting
>assisted on 35% of his 2s and 55% of his 3s
>
>unfortunately those numbers dont exist for Zeke, but that
>seems like something from which Zeke did not benefit. Joe D
>averaged 4.9, 5.7, and 4.7 apg in 88, 89, 90. nobody else
>ever had more than 3 other than microwave, who backed both of
>them up.
>
>there was no iguodala or draymond (or durant today) giving
>legit tertiary/quaternary distribution to the point that Curry
>can play off ball a LOT. Isiah HAD to have the ball in his
>hands.
>
>i dunno man. i dont think isiah's numbers are reflective of
>what he could do today with ball movement like the warriors
>have.

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54. "stop playing. zeke in the rearview, y'all."
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even old nigga nostalgia and 80s/90s romanticism has to at some point have its logical boundaries.

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55. "RE: stop playing. zeke in the rearview, y'all."
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Explain how so?

Steph is a better shooter, arguably a better scorer but Zeke is the better defender, passer, ball handler, rebounder and is himself an all-time great scorer at the position, as well as the undisputed leader of his team.

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86. "zeke was a better rebounder? so you're just making stuff up now?"
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>Steph is a better shooter, arguably a better scorer but Zeke
>is the better defender, passer, ball handler, rebounder and is

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58. "You mean like acknowledging Jorn was 1-9 in the playoffs w/no Pip? "
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>even old nigga nostalgia and 80s/90s romanticism has to at
>some point have its logical boundaries.

You mean those boundaries?

  

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59. "https://tinyurl.com/ycu9z8zk"
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https://tinyurl.com/ycu9z8zk

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60. "yea the selective nostalgia is wild."
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61. "addressed here (with, predictably, no response):"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2661988&mesg_id=2661988&listing_type=search#2662432

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67. "Dula. You post like an ugly nigga, and it concerns me. "
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>http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2661988&mesg_id=2661988&listing_type=search#2662432

I always thought you were a pretty nigga, like that O,
and consequently, we had a bond. It's not many of us
active on the innanetz. I thought I had a friend.

But your posting as of late has me concerned.

You know damn well that didn't address a damn thing.

Jordan was a bum ass 1 and 9.

1-9.

1-9.

1-9.

He needed an ALL TIME GREAT Small forward. Not a random
all-star. He ain't do SHIT without Pip.

And to make matters worse:

Pippen had that SAME BULLS SQUAD competitive and damn
near in the Finals sans Jordan when he was playing
baseball.

Jorn ain't do shit without him.

Focus on this like a handsome man of African descent,
and discuss facts. I don't care how yellow you are.

Discuss it for the ancestors.

  

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69. "you are so sad. its like watching a turtle on its back :("
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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71. "I got your inbox. I'll pass on the threesome offer, I'm good"
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I don't do threesomes with dudes or with anyone who
looks like a nose tackle, so you're off on two fronts

I'd say "No, thank you" but I don't actually thank you
for anything.

  

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73. "ah see you blew it :("
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the "lebron helped your sex life" angle was both funny at my expense AND true

no part of this angle is either

you really just cant help yourself with the lying, even when the truth is BETTER than the lie

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75. "Just stay out of my DMs with your nose tackle threesomes. "
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Not cool, bro.

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74. "yea this is the part that gets egregiously overlooked:"
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>Pippen had that SAME BULLS SQUAD competitive and damn
>near in the Finals sans Jordan when he was playing
>baseball.

A botched call away from the Finals - nearly beat the Knicks in the ECF w/ out Jordan.

Let's see how Cleveland does without LeBron.

Jordan was blessed with organizational fortitude and competence, a great coach, quality talent assessment and drafting - and a team that is (appropriately) heralded as one of the all-time great teams to ever play.

How many LeBron James teams are considered in the pantheon of all-time great teams?

None.



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76. "It's comedy: Bulls were CONTENDERS with NO JORDAN. "
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And NO ONE speaks on it.

>>Pippen had that SAME BULLS SQUAD competitive and damn
>>near in the Finals sans Jordan when he was playing
>>baseball.
>
>A botched call away from the Finals - nearly beat the Knicks
>in the ECF w/ out Jordan.
>
>Let's see how Cleveland does without LeBron.
>
>Jordan was blessed with organizational fortitude and
>competence, a great coach, quality talent assessment and
>drafting - and a team that is (appropriately) heralded as one
>of the all-time great teams to ever play.
>
>How many LeBron James teams are considered in the pantheon of
>all-time great teams?
>
>None.
>
>
>
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77. "cant tell if this is a compliment or a diss 🤔"
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because when you change "nearly" to "couldnt" it reads WAY different

>A botched call away from the Finals - nearly beat the Knicks
>in the ECF w/ out Jordan.

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80. "RE: yea this is the part that gets egregiously overlooked:"
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>
>>Pippen had that SAME BULLS SQUAD competitive and damn
>>near in the Finals sans Jordan when he was playing
>>baseball.
>
>A botched call away from the Finals - nearly beat the Knicks
>in the ECF w/ out Jordan.
>
>Let's see how Cleveland does without LeBron.
>
>Jordan was blessed with organizational fortitude and
>competence, a great coach, quality talent assessment and
>drafting - and a team that is (appropriately) heralded as one
>of the all-time great teams to ever play.
>
>How many LeBron James teams are considered in the pantheon of
>all-time great teams?
>
>None.
>
>
>
>-->

How's that Hurt Locker treating you guy?

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81. "lol I'm great - my agenda from 8 years ago has succeeded."
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Kang a GOAT and legions of sad fans have been desperately scrambling on the boards ever since - even using my own nomenclature (#HurtLocker, you gonna be ok?) in a flattering display of mimicry.

Everything's gonna be alright, just relax.


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90. "RE: lol I'm great - my agenda from 8 years ago has succeeded."
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Everybody on this board worried about you man. The tone of your posts are increasingly bitter and despondent, arguments divorced from reality.


I just felt like someone should reach out.

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89. "so we're just lying now?"
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>
>>Pippen had that SAME BULLS SQUAD competitive and damn
>>near in the Finals sans Jordan when he was playing
>>baseball.
>
>A botched call away from the Finals - nearly beat the Knicks
>in the ECF w/ out Jordan.
>

they lost in round 2, vex. not the conference finals.

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91. "nah - that was a mistake on my part."
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>they lost in round 2, vex. not the conference finals.

thought it was the conference finals - but you're right it was the semis.

OE's point still stands though: that bulls team was *very* good even without Jordan - and had they beat the Knicks - would've likely went to the Finals.

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97. "everyone misremembers that for some reason."
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>thought it was the conference finals - but you're right it was
>the semis.

not sure why, but i've seen it a hundred times if i've seen it once.

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88. "lulz"
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so the 94 team that pippen "damn near had in the finals" (not really, they lost in round 2, but ok) was the SAME SQUAD that jordan went 1-9 with from 84-87?

that's what we're going with?

how many players do you think those 2 teams had in common?

here's a hint: it starts with the letter "one, john paxson" and ends with "nigga shut up"

rest of that shit you typed was just weird.

inbox btw.

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92. "You having a rough Tinder week, my dude? "
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>so the 94 team that pippen "damn near had in the finals" (not
>really, they lost in round 2, but ok) was the SAME SQUAD that
>jordan went 1-9 with from 84-87?

>that's what we're going with?

Well, NOOOO.

Here IS A FACT:

Jordan was 1-9 without PIPPEN.

How good was Pippen!?!?

HE LEAD THE BULLS TO DAMN NEAR THE NBA FINALS WITHOUT
JORDAN!!!

Pippen wasn't just "a sidekick," he was an ALPHA DOG
FRANCHISE-GRADE TALENT. Bulls were CONTENDERS, bro. They
wasn't winning. But they WERE contenders.

The facts are facts:

Jordan was dogshit without another franchise-grade
player.

That's just the fact, bro.

>how many players do you think those 2 teams had in common?
>
>here's a hint: it starts with the letter "one, john paxson"
>and ends with "nigga shut up"
>
>rest of that shit you typed was just weird.
>
>inbox btw.


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95. "nah fam, just had a threesome in costa rica. la vida es buena!"
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resend them links btw. them shits ain't come thru.

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101. "https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--oPyx5eC5a4/UlMeYW2wNDI/AAAAAAAAAF4/E..."
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https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--oPyx5eC5a4/UlMeYW2wNDI/AAAAAAAAAF4/E6RSgrVNCdA/w519-h390/burr.gif

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103. "https://media3.giphy.com/media/oDpMAzRBnTMe4/giphy.gif"
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https://media3.giphy.com/media/oDpMAzRBnTMe4/giphy.gif

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93. "RE: lulz"
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It was a fun discussion while it lasted but the books are closed now.

Same thing happened to Kobe in the end.

Jordan still the GOAT, alone at the top. It's a beautiful thing, it really is, and it's amazing to see so many push through their limits in the hopes of reaching that summit.

So Bron and Kobe, their failures were not in vain. Through Jordan, they found themselves and gave us some incredible basketball.

Perhaps a new generation has someone who can unseat him but until then…*sips beverage and smiles*…Salut!

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56. "everyone saying zeke is making a point for point comparison..."
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but fact of the matter is the thing that steph does better, he doesn't just do it better than zeke, he does it better THAN ANYONE ELSE ALIVE.

  

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57. "in the history of ever doing it."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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63. "Problem is...shoot first PGs"
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No doubt, Steph is hands down the greatest shooter I've ever seen

...but that's not what the position has been traditionally associated with...

Zeke was putting up 20ppg AND dropping 10 dimes

IMO, that's the difference.

Draymond is the GSW PG

the debate isn't who's the better shooter

the debate is who is the better player

if I need a PG, I'm taking Zeke.

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64. "but the specific questions were..."
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better talent? better career?

  

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65. "Yeah, still Zeke today"
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What you're talking past...is they don't play the same position.

Zeke is a PG...Steph is a shooting guard.

You're not exactly comparing apples to apples here

Isiah was the franchise as a true PG that could have 3 peated

and although GSW have beaten a historically great individual player...the Bad Boys had to beat some of the greatest teams ever assembled in professional sports

Showtime Lakers
Bird's Celts
and Jordan's Bulls

The Bad Boys were Zeke as the franchise and a roster of role players

GSW are not that, not today

They were on that first chip run...then they took an L...and added the 2nd best player in the league

i.e. not exactly apples to apples.

the individual comparisons stop after shooting IMO

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105. "that wasn't the question"
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>What you're talking past...is they don't play the same
>position.
>
>Zeke is a PG...Steph is a shooting guard.

no, Steph is a scoring point guard. kinda how the league operates now.


>You're not exactly comparing apples to apples here

question wasn't posed as an apples to apples comparison, just who's better.


>Isiah was the franchise as a true PG that could have 3 peated

Steph is the franchise as a scoring PG that could have 4 peated. so.


>The Bad Boys were Zeke as the franchise and a roster of role
>players

Bad Boys role players:

Dumars - HOF
Rodman - HOF
Dantley - HOF
Laimbeer - 4x All-Star

didn't realize they opened a roster of role players wing in Springfield.

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106. "a scoring guard who is not the primary ball handler"
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I'll take shooting guards for 200 Alex

You literally just defined SG


Steph WAS the franchise as a scoring PG that won one and lost one = fixed it for you

KD got back to back finals MVPs...and you want to give the credit to Steph...how Sway?


"Bad Boys role players:

Dumars - HOF
Rodman - HOF
Dantley - HOF
Laimbeer - 4x All-Star

didn't realize they opened a roster of role players wing in Springfield."

Didn't realize you don't watch basketball

Do I really have to breakdown Laimbeer and Rodman IRT role players...? Goon and rebound machine, respectively

Dantley was a 2X scoring champ and 6X all-star BEFORE he got to DET

He gave up 10ppg to play for DET

Joe D's role was defending the other team's best player

I mean, if you ever WATCHED them play, their roles are quite well defined actually

WTF does that have to with the HOF?

Rodman was one of the greatest rebounders of AT
Dantley's resume was written before he got to DET
Dumars, as per MJ's testimony, was one of the best defenders at the 2 evah
Laimbeer's on-court rep doesn't even need words TBH

You think Dennis Rodman is in the HOF because of the 7 years he played in DET?

You think Dantley is in the HOF because of the two and a half seasons he played in DET?

?

KD going to GSW would be like 'Nique going to DET...again...not exactly apples to apples IMO

2s

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62. "Zeke still go 'eem...but it gets closer every year"
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http://www.landofbasketball.com/player_comparison/stephen_curry_vs_isiah_thomas.htm

Zeke has a finals MVP...LOL

Player vs player, I'd take Zeke

but Steph can catch him for career

handful more all-stars, 1st teams, etc...

Thing is...Zeke was, is, always will be the best player on The Bad Boys

Steph been relegated to #2 on 2 chips

yes, that matters to me, and yes, that will probably always put Steph behind Zeke in my book

http://www.nba.com/top-nba-finals-moments-isiah-thomas-game-6-ankle-1988-finals

READ THAT LAST LINE

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68. "I'm 33, grew up in Michigan and barely remember watching zeke play"
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Lol I'm wondering how some of my peers in this post remember him so clearly.

(Steph better)

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70. "im about to be 36 and i can just barely remember the 87 ECF"
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not so much anything particular, just that we lost and ppl were bummed lol

Lakers I i can remember
Lakers II i can definitely remember
Blazers i remember VERY clearly

but my parents HERE. FOR. THAT. lol. every game was on every night, we watched Eli & Denny every week, I have multiple copies of the "Pure Pistons" tape, and I remember imitating the Vinny Johnson shot on the Boblo Boat the very next day with kids i didnt wven know. im only a few years older than you but it was a focus in our house(s) from top to bottom.

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79. "RE: I'm 33, grew up in Michigan and barely remember watching zeke play"
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I am 41

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96. "I'm in my 40's and I remember Zeke very well, Steph is a better shooter...."
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(the best ever) but Zeke was better at literally everything else and its really not close. Better point guard, better defender, better LEADER.

His resume says it all, he beat Magic, Bird, and Jordan head-to-head and didn't need a "superteam" to do it.

Steph has more rings and will end up with better individual accolades but he wouldn't do what he's doing now in Zeke's era and Zeke would be even more dominant in this era.

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72. "its times like these I appreciate being an old head"
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shut up already, damn

  

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78. "steph got it now. people get passed *shrug*"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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82. "^^^ There's a man with integrity (c) Billy Hoyle"
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<------- La Potencia

  

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83. "Oh wow."
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Two instant questions to ask:

1) He's no longer a fraud, much less a Fraud with a capital F?

2) I'm guessing I already have my answer, but you're not going to change your signature?

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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85. "some people stand firm in their principles"
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>Two instant questions to ask:
>
>1) He's no longer a fraud, much less a Fraud with a capital
>F?
>
>2) I'm guessing I already have my answer, but you're not going
>to change your signature?

others just sway in the wind of agendas, hoping to catch a W here or there via proxy wars.

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94. "a fat lever disciple before Klay Thompson got to GSW (c) Ba"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2263605&mesg_id=2263605&listing_type=search#top

weird, I guess it's invisible too, because it was upped yesterday.

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104. "He was tho. He's a 3-time champ now. "
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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99. "Right. Three years ago, my posts were accurate..."
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... but a lot has changed in those three years. Two more titles helps. A lot.

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98. "Steph may have passed him now....."
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Not the biggest fan of the guy personally....

but never denied he's a great player..one of the best of his era..

I got Zeke over Iverson...

but I think right now Curry got em..


  

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