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"The College Football Offseason Post....albeit a tad bit late"
Fri Jul-24-15 10:43 AM by guru0509

  

          

im gonna be out of the country for september & october so i wanna get some CFB banter in before then.


so can we all agree that the in augural CFB playoff was a HUGE success (unless youre a Baylor or TCU fan, or an OSU hater)

the ratings seem to agree.

"According to Nielsen, Ohio State's 42-20 victory over Oregon generated an 18.5 overnight rating, making it not only ESPN's highest rated broadcast of all time but the highest rated program in the history of cable TV, according to Adweek"

random storylines

Da U - 7! players were drafted this year..Al Golden has no excuse. If he doesnt win 10 games he's finished

FSU - a whole bunch of police blotter, &...still enough talent to win the ACC despite losing Rapist Jameis (im sure cgonz has disagrees)

Is USC "back"? probation over. schollies up to full alottment and a roster brimming with talent..can Sark get out of his way enough to win the P12 & lead them to a playoff appearance? I hope so. We have some unfinished business with USC (*paging Bomb*)

michigan finally gets a coach with a history of winning. dude is a complete weirdo, but he's much happier than the shitty situation he came from. ann arbor >> the bay. michigan wins 8 games this year including an upset over Sparty. write it down.

other new coaches

Pat Narduzzi @ Pitt
Jim MacElwain @ UF
Chad Morris @ SMU
Mike Riley @ Nebraska

the Big 12 still hasnt added a conference championship game. they'll learn when TCU gets snubbed again this year.


SEC ROOLZ YALL! WE'RE NUMBER 1! LSU? Auburn? UGA? Does the rotting corpse of Bama relenquish it's grip in the nations toughest (LOL) conference?

Braxton to WR/Hback/Percy Harvin role in case you havent heard. TOSU QB race is now down to JT and Cardale (my guess is Cardale wins the job and Barrett accepts a redshirt)

this is the year of the Russell Wilson free agent/grad student loophole btw

—Everett Golson, from Notre Dame to Florida State
—Vernon Adams Jr., from Eastern Washington to Oregon
—Jake Rudock, from Iowa to Michigan
—Jeff Driskel, from Florida to Louisiana Tech
—Daxx Garman, from Oklahoma State to Maryland


Heisman ODDS
Ezekiel Elliott, Ohio State RB 6/1
Dak Prescott, Mississippi State QB 7/1
Leonard Fournette, LSU RB 7/1
Trevone Boykin, TCU QB 15/2

any swipe requests will be fulfilled per usual

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OKDegenerates..Best CFB conference championship value bets
Jul 24th 2015
1
bovada has GT at 25-1. thats straight cash homie.
Jul 24th 2015
3
i was gonna make this post tomorrow. im over hoop.
Jul 24th 2015
2
I'm ready.
Jul 24th 2015
4
where are u traveling to? hope u still have tv/computer access
Jul 24th 2015
5
no jungles of malaysia or cambodia this time, ill be straight
Jul 24th 2015
6
      I'll be in c-bus for MSU
Jul 24th 2015
7
      i have 0 interest in going back to Cbus nowadays for games...
Jul 24th 2015
10
           interesting. i still enjoy it. love the stadium.
Jul 24th 2015
11
           I have wondered how locals feel about that...
Jul 24th 2015
12
           shit, the locals are die hard. even more than me.
Jul 24th 2015
13
           can't.wait (c) Bart Scott
Aug 07th 2015
40
                like last season in east lansing?
Aug 08th 2015
41
      you GOTTA go to the bathhouse in Budapest
Jul 24th 2015
8
           NOTED! thank you. ill take any and all suggestions/tips
Jul 24th 2015
9
legit excited
Jul 28th 2015
14
Yup, I said Butch would get it done.
Jul 28th 2015
15
Been a while since UT fans were this optimistic about a season...
Jul 28th 2015
17
      And down goes our best OLineman...
Aug 10th 2015
47
Auburn's Malzahn decries SEC 'disadvantage'
Jul 28th 2015
16
lololololololololololololololol
Jul 28th 2015
19
Im excited for this upcoming Cal season and have legit expectations
Jul 28th 2015
18
Mizzou QB dedicates his season to his ailing father
Jul 28th 2015
20
If youre in Rio mid-October let me know, I need a dude (pause)
Jul 28th 2015
21
You already know I was gonna a hit you up... Nm
Jul 28th 2015
22
Joey Bosa , Jalin Marshall, Dontre Wilson & Corey Smith suspended
Jul 30th 2015
23
Forewarning: Michigan State
Jul 30th 2015
24
just an upset pick of mine, dont read into it too much
Jul 30th 2015
25
at least pretend like you are used to being good lol
Jul 30th 2015
27
      http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/msubronzehelmet459.jpg
Aug 01st 2015
29
      so terrible. no need for the bronze at all.
Aug 02nd 2015
30
           RE: so terrible. no need for the bronze at all.
Aug 02nd 2015
34
                is that ur way of saying you actually like them? lol
Aug 02nd 2015
35
      RE: at least pretend like you are used to being good lol
Aug 02nd 2015
33
ok. hi.
Jul 30th 2015
26
That Kansas and Oklahoma to the Big Ten nonsense
Aug 01st 2015
28
Big Twn should have looked to KU and MU the first time
Aug 02nd 2015
31
      I'd rather have both of those than Rutgers
Aug 02nd 2015
32
Welcome home, Terrelle
Aug 07th 2015
36
I'm really pumped for Pryor.
Aug 07th 2015
38
OSU fucked pryor over in a major way
Aug 07th 2015
39
He got nothing but love. 11w swipe
Aug 08th 2015
42
      good. hope he'll be around a lot more in the future
Aug 08th 2015
43
Les Miles, Strict Disciplinarian
Aug 07th 2015
37
So no clit?
Aug 10th 2015
44
what a fucking creep
Aug 10th 2015
45
Fuck him
Aug 10th 2015
48
      Seriously, never should've been hired
Aug 11th 2015
49
sorry to hear about Thomas Tyner, matt. that dude is a beast
Aug 10th 2015
46
pfffft
Aug 19th 2015
53
Jim Harbaugh and Urban Meyer are natural born rivals (long swipe)
Aug 11th 2015
50
Oregon fans hate the new ESPN CFB commercial...
Aug 19th 2015
51
what a weird fucking fanbase
Aug 19th 2015
52
cmon. eDuck? really?
Aug 19th 2015
54
      im running low on material..i just need the season to start asap
Aug 19th 2015
55
AP Top 25
Aug 23rd 2015
56
UNANIMOUS
Aug 23rd 2015
57
      the future is ridiculously bright but we're still a long way from this
Aug 24th 2015
61
      if* Braxton was healthy, we win that game easily.
Aug 24th 2015
63
           DAT BUD!
Aug 24th 2015
64
           every year im still amazed he isnt a HC somewhere else...
Aug 24th 2015
66
                i honestly dont think he has any interest
Aug 25th 2015
72
           and if Braxton was healthy OSU loses to MSU
Aug 24th 2015
67
      Cmon, show some faith in your squad
Aug 24th 2015
62
      i stopped short of 1994 nebraska. i didnt wanna get carried away nm
Aug 24th 2015
70
      0-1 is gonna look great on you nm
Aug 24th 2015
65
           avi bet
Aug 29th 2015
85
Sarkisian gets drunk, talks shit, pulled off stage & forced to apologize...
Aug 24th 2015
58
Holy shit at him and Kiffin on the same offensive staff
Aug 24th 2015
59
this guy sucks
Aug 24th 2015
60
fraud, always and forever
Aug 24th 2015
68
lol wow @ all that.....smh. so sloppy. tighten it up "coach"
Aug 24th 2015
69
Yep this is all true
Aug 24th 2015
71
RE: Sarkisian gets drunk, talks shit, pulled off stage & forced to apolo...
Sep 03rd 2015
114
      this is such a fallacy...
Sep 03rd 2015
118
           RE: this is such a fallacy...
Sep 04th 2015
120
Why the fuck is Popular Mechanics startin shit?
Aug 25th 2015
73
i laughed so hard when i read that tweet this morning
Aug 25th 2015
74
bad news vibes coming out of Columbus....
Aug 26th 2015
75
Illinois coach Tim Beckman fired amid external review
Aug 28th 2015
76
wow. what a piece of shit if true.
Aug 28th 2015
77
Vernon Adams named Duck starter
Aug 28th 2015
78
Im not surprised he is the starter but I am surprised that the competiti...
Aug 28th 2015
79
      he just needs to extend the play, escape...
Aug 28th 2015
80
           Adams can certainly escape the pass rush and extend plays
Aug 28th 2015
81
                I think you are overestimating the amount Marcus actually ran
Aug 28th 2015
83
                     Trust me I am not over estimating MMs rushing abilities
Aug 29th 2015
84
                          RE: Trust me I am not over estimating MMs rushing abilities
Sep 03rd 2015
119
On record: O$U bout to 95 Huskers this shit
Aug 28th 2015
82
RE: On record: O$U bout to 95 Huskers this shit
Aug 29th 2015
87
or not?
Jan 22nd 2016
154
      i think alot of fans unfairly blamed him..myself included
Jan 22nd 2016
155
           the offense was in disarray up until the mich game.
Jan 22nd 2016
157
FCS football on today at 330.
Aug 29th 2015
86
i went to a few hs games this weekend...had to get my fix lol
Aug 29th 2015
88
      who'd you see?
Aug 31st 2015
91
           a bunch of REALLY good teams
Aug 31st 2015
92
                damn, thanks for hte summary. Michigan HS fb is so much better now...
Sep 01st 2015
93
                     well yes and no.
Sep 01st 2015
96
                          beautiful.
Sep 01st 2015
97
Everett Golson wins least interesting QB race ever
Aug 31st 2015
89
I disagree, that honor goes to Vernon Adams and Oregon
Aug 31st 2015
90
      Though it is kinda crazy that the last two Heisman winners
Sep 01st 2015
98
Jim Harbaugh is hilarious
Sep 01st 2015
94
ZING!
Sep 01st 2015
95
if you want to sign up for a weekly CFB pickem, for 50 bucks, lmk
Sep 01st 2015
99
Sidenote, I can't read any UCLA fan sites anymore
Sep 01st 2015
100
it's not just UCLA man..all those fan sites* are horrible, ours included
Sep 01st 2015
101
      It sucks cause sites like 11W are good
Sep 01st 2015
102
           dude FD is insufferable
Sep 01st 2015
104
Mountain West
Sep 01st 2015
103
why is everyone so high on Boise this year?
Sep 01st 2015
105
      RE: why is everyone so high on Boise this year?
Sep 03rd 2015
112
FUCKIN FINALLY
Sep 03rd 2015
106
its the mosttt wonderfullll tiiiiime offfff the yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaar
Sep 03rd 2015
107
the day is crawling smhlol
Sep 03rd 2015
108
      Fuckin west ass coast time!!!
Sep 03rd 2015
109
           ... Is great for football!
Sep 03rd 2015
110
                Unamerican.
Sep 03rd 2015
111
                setting your clock for 9am games though?
Sep 03rd 2015
116
                     I'm now over 30 and no longer capable of sleeping in
Sep 03rd 2015
117
kick in the do' wavin the .44, all i heard was "Rutgers we dont want it ...
Sep 03rd 2015
113
Kick down the door in the spot 260, 2L, heard they got Os for sale
Sep 03rd 2015
115
Duke University Football: 1-0.
Sep 04th 2015
121
bird nest on the ground for Urb?:
Jan 20th 2016
122
A good piece on the topic (link)
Jan 20th 2016
123
The michigan Difference (c)
Jan 20th 2016
124
LOL at the vitriol from mich fans asking him to take the text msg down
Jan 20th 2016
127
Real talk, there's a ton of moving the goalposts from Michigan fans.
Jan 20th 2016
125
Well there are some clear distinctions to make
Jan 20th 2016
126
Eh...this is all accurate but the nuance and explanations weren't
Jan 20th 2016
130
      Well i kind of laid out the scanrios i save *my* ire for
Jan 20th 2016
132
supposedly this was harbaugh's recruiting style at stanford
Jan 20th 2016
128
      Yeah...I've heard that they view the term "commit" loosely, and
Jan 20th 2016
131
           It's also tougher for Stanford to get commits
Jan 20th 2016
133
what's the running tally on recruits he's ran off now?
Jan 26th 2016
165
      greater than 0 but less than the number of arrests under Urban
Jan 26th 2016
166
      what is nonsensical and irrelevant comebacks for $100?
Jan 26th 2016
168
      Harbaugh gets the notoriety
Jan 26th 2016
167
           pay for play is a separate issue entirely
Jan 26th 2016
169
                point taken
Jan 27th 2016
170
                     it's not roster pruning
Jan 28th 2016
171
                          semantics to me
Jan 29th 2016
172
                               im not really sure what you're arguing here
Jan 29th 2016
173
surprised nobody has talked about Hoke as Oregon new DC
Jan 20th 2016
129
Honestly they could do a lot worse
Jan 20th 2016
134
Cosign on all of this.
Jan 20th 2016
135
really? Dick Rod is the most important innovator of your life time too?
Jan 21st 2016
145
      Right because i was clearly talking about science and government
Jan 21st 2016
148
           sorry, I only knew of 1 way to interpret your comment
Jan 21st 2016
150
                Do you have an argument against it or nah?
Jan 21st 2016
152
                     smh why the fuck would i be mentioning other recent fball innovators?
Jan 21st 2016
153
                          Because it would be better than your unfunny and unclever joke
Jan 22nd 2016
159
                               wasn't trying to be funny nor clever
Jan 23rd 2016
161
Oregon couldn't find a DC whose last and only DC experience
Jan 21st 2016
144
Can you not read or is it a choice?
Jan 21st 2016
149
      the problem is I'm just breaking balls and you're taking it seriously
Jan 21st 2016
151
never had a problem with rich rod...
Jan 21st 2016
146
really would have liked to close the deal with Nolan, but w/e
Jan 22nd 2016
160
      RE: really would have liked to close the deal with Nolan, but w/e
Jan 23rd 2016
162
           Can you be a CEO coordinator?
Jan 23rd 2016
164
SI.com Too Early Top 25
Jan 20th 2016
136
Miami might be a lot better tham #23 at the end
Jan 20th 2016
137
There's a lot expected of you all
Jan 20th 2016
138
I was really surprised to hear of Will Grier transferring
Jan 20th 2016
139
there wont be any room for him by the time he'd return midseason
Jan 22nd 2016
158
rightly.
Jan 20th 2016
140
      Evan...Berry?
Jan 21st 2016
141
      you didn't find out this year? him and his twin brother
Jan 21st 2016
142
           I had no idea. A 38+ yard average?? Lol
Jan 21st 2016
143
      Still hesitant on Dobbs....
Jan 21st 2016
147
           definitely
Jan 22nd 2016
156
UF needs to be on that list, they are good...just watch.
Jan 23rd 2016
163

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1. "OKDegenerates..Best CFB conference championship value bets"
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btw im convinced CFB is the EASIEST sport to bet on..I set aside 1000 last year and finished the season with 2500...if anyone wants a good bookie in the city, let me know...he's always taking on new "clients"

http://espn.go.com/chalk/insider/story/_/id/13296235/best-college-football-conference-championship-value-bets-ncaaf

With the 2015 college football season less than 50 days away, it's time to take a look at the best conference championship bets, based on sportsbook operator CG Technology's updated odds. The favorites in the Power 5 conferences remain the four teams to participate in the 2014 College Football Playoff and the two Big 12 teams that barely missed the cut.

Do we really expect last season to replicate itself? Every year there are teams that come out of nowhere to win their conference championships. TCU did it last season and Auburn shocked the SEC the season before. Which teams this year will be the conference championship value bets?

Using ESPN's Football Power Index (FPI) preseason projections, we will break down which teams FPI favors and which ones it believes could provide value in each Power 5 conference. To find the hidden gems, we looked at each team's expected return on a $100 bet. We calculated this return by multiplying each team's payout if it were to win its conference -- based on CG Technology's odds -- by the chance that it would actually win (using FPI's projections). The teams with the highest expected return are often teams with a viable chance to win their conference that would also produce a significant payout.

The obvious question is why rely on FPI for this type of information? Last season, the first season of FPI's preseason projections, it correctly identified seven of the 10 conference champions in the preseason, and its preseason win totals projections were within 1.5 wins of the actual totals of more than half of the FBS teams. In terms of individual game predictions, the team FPI favored won 76 percent of FBS-only games in 2014, which ranked first out of 72 systems we tracked last season (includes Vegas closing line). Dating back to 2005, FPI has a 75 percent success rate when predicting games, so it is a system with a proven track record.

SEC

Vegas favorite: Alabama Crimson Tide (13-5 odds)
FPI favorite: Georgia Bulldogs (25 percent chance to win)
Value bet: Tennessee Volunteers (11-1 odds, 13 percent by FPI)

CG Technology pins Alabama (13-5) as the favorite to win the SEC, but FPI projects that Georgia has the best chance to win the conference. The main reason that FPI favors Georgia is its schedule; Alabama is projected to play the toughest schedule in the nation and has to deal with a loaded SEC West, while Georgia has a fairly manageable path to the SEC championship game through the SEC East.

For this same reason, Tennessee is the best value bet in the nation. The Vols currently have the seventh-best odds to win the SEC, but FPI projects that they have the third-best chance (and a higher chance than Alabama) to win the conference. A $100 bet on Tennessee would result in an expected return of $74, based on the current Vegas and FPI odds, best of any Power 5 team.

The Vols return an SEC-high 18 starters to a team that improved in all three phases of the game last season. They have signed consecutive top-five recruiting classes, so they have the talent on their roster to compete. Add in the fact that as a member of the SEC East, Tennessee has fewer teams to contend with for a division title, and the Vols may be the best "sleeper" in the country entering the season.

ACC

Vegas favorite: Florida State Seminoles (9-5 odds)
FPI favorite: Clemson Tigers (26 percent chance to win)
Value bet: Virginia Tech Hokies (8-1 odds, 14 percent by FPI)

ACC Atlantic foes Florida State and Clemson are the top teams in the conference, according to FPI and Vegas, but there is value in choosing a team from the opposite division to win the title. Virginia Tech is FPI's favorite in the ACC Coastal Division (28 percent chance to win), and considering the Hokies pay out twice the rate of either Clemson or FSU, they are a great bet heading into the season.

Although Virginia Tech has muddled around .500 in each of the past three seasons, there are reasons to believe it can return to the double-digit win totals that defined the program for most of the BCS era. The Hokies return 16 starters, including quarterback Michael Brewer, to a team that lost five of its six games last season by a combined 20 points. FPI expects its defense, which has ranked in the top 12 in efficiency in each of the past three seasons, to again be one of the best in the nation under Bud Foster.

The Hokies also have a favorable schedule by avoiding Florida State, Clemson and Louisville in their crossover games with the opposite division, so it could be worth taking a flier on Frank Beamer's Hokies.

Pac-12

Vegas favorite: Oregon Ducks (3-2 odds)
FPI favorite: Oregon Ducks (36 percent chance to win)
Value bet: Stanford Cardinal (6-1 odds, 16 percent by FPI)

Oregon is the favorite to win the Pac-12 by Vegas and FPI, but another team from the Pac-12 North may be the better value bet. Stanford has one of the easiest conference schedules in the Pac-12, with three of its four road games against Washington State, Colorado and Oregon State (combined 4-23 in conference play last year).

Stanford struggled offensively last season, but with nine players returning on that side of the ball, including quarterback Kevin Hogan, the Cardinal should improve in 2015. FPI believes that Stanford has the fourth-best chance to win the conference, but if it can beat Oregon, which it hosts on Nov. 14, those odds would rise significantly.

Big 12

Vegas favorite: TCU Horned Frogs (6-5 odds)
FPI favorite: Baylor Bears (37 percent chance to win)
Value bet: Baylor Bears (12-5 odds, 37 percent by FPI)

After finishing with two true champions last season, the Big 12 is again expected to have one of the closest conference races in the country. FPI favors Baylor over TCU by the slightest margin (37.4 percent versus 36.9 percent), while CG Technology gives the Horned Frogs the edge.

The Bears are the only Power 5 team that is both the favorite and best value bet in its conference. It is worth noting, however, that a $100 bet on any Big 12 team would not result in a positive expected return.

Baylor returns a Big 12-high 18 starters to a team that won -- or shared -- the Big 12 championship each of the past two seasons. The Bears have to replace quarterback Bryce Petty, but even without Petty, FPI projects they will have the most efficient offense in the nation. Baylor has a tough road conference schedule (Oklahoma State, TCU, Kansas State), but it plays one fewer road conference game than TCU, which is a major reason why it is favored by FPI in the projections.


New head coach Mike Riley and the Cornhuskers may have an easy path to the Big Ten title coming from the relatively weak West division. Courtesy of Nebraska
Big Ten

Vegas favorite: Ohio State Buckeyes (2-7 odds)
FPI favorite: Ohio State Buckeyes (63 percent chance to win)
Value bet: Nebraska Cornhuskers (15-1 odds, 6 percent by FPI)

There is no doubt that Ohio State is the overwhelming favorite to win the Big Ten. CG Technology set the line at minus-350, meaning you'd have to bet $350 to win $100, and FPI gives the Buckeyes a 63 percent chance to win. Although there is value in betting the odds-on favorite, the payout is so small that it may be worth looking elsewhere in the Big Ten.

The Big Ten actually provides the least value of any Power 5 conference, but if forced to take a flier, Nebraska is the top bet because of its division and schedule. For a second straight season, the Cornhuskers avoid Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State in the regular season. As a member of the relatively weak Big Ten West, Nebraska also has a favorable path to the Big Ten championship game. Although the Cornhuskers would be a marked underdog against the winner of the Big Ten East, anything is possible in a one-game setting. At 15-1 odds, the Cornhuskers may be a team worth taking a chance on.

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3. "bovada has GT at 25-1. thats straight cash homie."
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>so can we all agree that the in augural CFB playoff was a HUGE
>success (unless youre a Baylor or TCU fan, or an OSU hater)

I have mixed feelings. The games were always going to be interesting just because of elite teams squaring off. The format itself still blows tho. Until every team in the FBS has a legit chamce to control their own natl championship destiny im going to continue to enjoy the football, and look at the chips the same way i looked at poll chips. Thats the main reason the NCAA doesnt award official FBS titles btw.


>the ratings seem to agree.
>
>"According to Nielsen, Ohio State's 42-20 victory over Oregon
>generated an 18.5 overnight rating, making it not only ESPN's
>highest rated broadcast of all time but the highest rated
>program in the history of cable TV, according to Adweek"

The cable TV aspect is fucking disgraceful. The Rose Bowl on cable is an insult to human decency.

>Da U - 7! players were drafted this year..Al Golden has no
>excuse. If he doesnt win 10 games he's finished

He got KILLED in an interview at ACC media days. Just came out looking like a total chump. 10 wins aint happening, and hes done.
http://mancave.cbslocal.com/2015/07/22/acc-media-days-al-goldens-first-real-interview/

>FSU - a whole bunch of police blotter, &...still enough talent
>to win the ACC despite losing Rapist Jameis (im sure cgonz has
>disagrees)

I dont disagree actually. The current normal order in the ACC is Clemson-FSU winner vs VPI&SU-GT winner in December. That isnt changing and all 4 of that group have the talent to win it. Luckily we have the best QB (Justin Thomas) and the best coach of the group. VT is gonna have a monstrous defense but scoring could be an issue. Clemson might be more dependent on Watson than any other team in the country is on any one player, but he can play. FSU should be able to put up points but they are gonna get abused by Watson and Thomas. I think they take a small step back this year while the new D gets settled. I like GT avenging their previous loss at Clemson and taking the ACC chip

>Is USC "back"? probation over. schollies up to full alottment
>and a roster brimming with talent..can Sark get out of his way
>enough to win the P12 & lead them to a playoff appearance? I
>hope so. We have some unfinished business with USC (*paging
>Bomb*)

Another team that should have zero trouble scoring. Kessler is legit.

>michigan finally gets a coach with a history of winning. dude
>is a complete weirdo, but he's much happier than the shitty
>situation he came from. ann arbor >> the bay. michigan wins 8
>games this year including an upset over Sparty. write it
>down.

He really is a weirdo but ill happily take weirdness based on passion. I see losses to OSU and Penn St, with Utah, BYU, and Maryland swing games. I agree with the win vs MSU. Looking forward to 2 years of Ty Isaac. Derrick Green is not good.

>other new coaches
>
>Pat Narduzzi @ Pitt

Cant wait to hear him complain about our cut blocking after we run for 400 yards on them.

>Jim MacElwain @ UF

2 year rebuild, but theyll be real good on the other side.

>Chad Morris @ SMU

He's probably got 2 years before theyre good, but in 5 years NO ONE is gonna want to play them. I think he is a fantastic coach, and id like to see the AAC elevate itself to AQ status.

>Mike Riley @ Nebraska

Meh. Another year, another postseason in Orlando.

>the Big12 still hasnt added a conference championship game.
>they'll learn when TCU gets snubbed again this year.

They dont need one honestly. They just need to crown a champion. Petitioning the NCAA to let their teams play a 13th game may not be a bad idea tho.(Btw Baylor got snubbed, not TCU)

>SEC ROOLZ YALL! WE'RE NUMBER 1! LSU? Auburn? UGA? Does the
>rotting corpse of Bama relenquish it's grip in the nations
>toughest (LOL) conference?

We rolled up 850 rushing yards on two top 10 SEC teams, and we did it outside of ATL. They can feel free to lick my balls.

>Braxton to WR/Hback/Percy Harvin role in case you havent
>heard. TOSU QB race is now down to JT and Cardale (my guess is
>Cardale wins the job and Barrett accepts a redshirt)

I dont understand how Jones finished 3rd as an afterthought last year and is going to start now. Did the coaches honeatly not realize what they had? Is this a nice gesture to help Miller and Jones with pro prospects? BTW Miller about to win B1G OPOY again.

>—Everett Golson, from Notre Dame to Florida State

The difference between 9 wins and 7. Doesnt lay any future groundwork tho.

>—Vernon Adams Jr., from Eastern Washington to Oregon

Will get his numbers but Ill believe he can lead them to an elite season when i see it.

>—Jake Rudock, from Iowa to Michigan

Ill be surprised if he doesnt start but I think he is just a bridge to John O'Korn, and then Brandon Peters, Zach Gentry, and Alex Malzone fight to the death for the 2018 job.

>—Jeff Driskel, from Florida to Louisiana Tech

Nice career reclamation possibility here. UF has been a seething pit of dysfunction since before Urbz even left. A fresh start could be the booster shot his pro prospects need.

>—Daxx Garman, from Oklahoma State to Maryland

Meh.

>Heisman ODDS
>Ezekiel Elliott, Ohio State RB 6/1

Too much talent and only one ball. Sucker bet.

>Dak Prescott, Mississippi State QB 7/1

Wont win enough.

>Leonard Fournette, LSU RB 7/1

Not the best back in his own conference. Fairly confident Nick Chubb is actually the best back in the conference.

>Trevone Boykin, TCU QB 15/2

Explosive offense built around him and i like the betting odds there.

Bovada's 7/1 odds are different tho.
Trevone Boykin (QB TCU) 6/1
Ezekiel Elliott (RB Ohio State) 7/1
Nick Chubb (RB Georgia) 9/1
Braxton Miller (QB Ohio State) 10/1
Cody Kessler (QB USC) 12/1
Dak Prescott (QB Mississippi State) 12/1
Jeremy Johnson (QB Auburn) 12/1
Leonard Fournette (RB LSU) 12/1
Derrick Henry (RB Alabama) 16/1
Deshaun Watson (QB Clemson) 16/1
Cardale Jones (QB Ohio State) 20/1
Paul Perkins (RB UCLA) 20/1
Samaje Perine (RB Oklahoma) 20/1

Justin Thomas checks in at 40/1. Id lay a 50 on that. If he has monster game at ND 3rd wknd of September he has a legit shot. Among the favorites, I like Chubb.

Conf champs:
Stanford, tOSU, GT, TCU, U(sic)GA

Playoff selection will be a mess and expansion will be the talk of next summer.

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5. "where are u traveling to? hope u still have tv/computer access"
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>Is USC "back"?

no.

will be another typically overhyped SC squad. they need to figure out how to stay on the field with UCLA first before moving on to bigger and better things.

> TOSU QB race is now down to JT and Cardale (my guess is
>Cardale wins the job and Barrett accepts a redshirt)

JT already redshirted. I'm sure both qb's will get lots of reps.

  

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6. "no jungles of malaysia or cambodia this time, ill be straight"
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doing a Eurotrip with college buddies (all buckeyes, & 1 wolverine lol) in September

Amsterdam
Berlin
Prague
Budapest
Madrid
Malaga
Barcelona
and Dublin on the way home (36 hour layover, Bourdain style!)

& Argentina/Brazil in October with the fam

(ill be back in time to go to Rutgers vs TOSU in New Brunswick...you going to any games this year?)


I will be in front of a computer/TV screen every Saturday, watching and talking shit here, believe me.


>>Is USC "back"?
>
>no.


I think they're gonna be good. that Oregon game will be telling.


>will be another typically overhyped SC squad. they need to
>figure out how to stay on the field with UCLA first before
>moving on to bigger and better things.

>> TOSU QB race is now down to JT and Cardale (my guess is
>>Cardale wins the job and Barrett accepts a redshirt)

>JT already redshirted. I'm sure both qb's will get lots of
>reps.

smh i knew this. should be fun.

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>you going to any games this year?)

  

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60 over 5 years was enough for me...if i knew ppl who still klived there...different story

i like going to road games in stadiums i havent been to before...I'm gonna try to make the Va Tech opener

the MSU game is gonna be a glorious beat down though. Sparty is wildly overrated this year.

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aside from some of the annoying music shit they've been doing in recent years. but i still like making the pilgrimage once per season.

im not all that interested in sitting amongst fans from other teams and most road experiences fall flat compared to the 'shoe. UT austin was the major exception.

  

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I went to a Missouri-Nebraska game in Lincoln a few years back, and as much as I love football, I couldn't imagine doing that more than once a season. Probably like once every 3-5 years. Such a crowd and such an ordeal. It was Helu's 300 yard rushing game.
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13. "shit, the locals are die hard. even more than me."
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those people grew up their whole lives around TOSU football (same goes for any major CFB market)...

i think they packed in 90k for a spring game.


id rather watch from my apartment or a bar & spend that $ on going somewhere else. getting old(er) i guess.

if we play a major OOC team, ill go back (like I did for USC) but that's about it.


>I went to a Missouri-Nebraska game in Lincoln a few years
>back, and as much as I love football, I couldn't imagine doing
>that more than once a season. Probably like once every 3-5
>years. Such a crowd and such an ordeal. It was Helu's 300
>yard rushing game.

yea Nebraska fans are pretty much the same, but much more polite lol.


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>the MSU game is gonna be a glorious beat down though. Spart
>is wildly overrated this year.

a LOT of noise coming from tOSU fans. gotta love the arrogance.
It will be a 60 min fight.

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41. "like last season in east lansing?"
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oise coming from tOSU fans. gotta love the
>arrogance.
>It will be a 60 min fight.

I think Sparty is a very good program right now and it should be a great game.

but you can't be incredulous about an opposing fanbase popping shit after they tore up your squad and won the NC. that's just reality.

  

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The big one Rick Steves recommends

SO much fun

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>The big one Rick Steves recommends
>
>SO much fun

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this is still a "building" year -- the front-line starters can roll with the best of the SEC, but the two-deep isn't good enough yet. I'm hoping for eight regular season wins (@ Florida is A MUST), which would be a great step towards a monster 2016.

and Cam Sutton is the best corner nobody talks about yet. his lack of All-SEC recognition last season was downright pitiful, considering he outplayed Vernon Hargreaves III against many common opponents.

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You guys had all the reason to be skeptical with Kiffin/Dooley fiasco...

but the MAC is where coaches are MADE...dude recruited his ass off the last few years

Kamara and Jalen Hurd is no lower than the third best rushing attaack in the SEC

September 12th night game vs OU in Neyland should be crazy...

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17. "Been a while since UT fans were this optimistic about a season..."
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This o-line has to show me something before I can fully get on-board, but there is no reason that SEC Championship game shouldn't be the goal.

Looking forward to...
-Dobbs/Hurd/Kamara backfield
-Defensive line, specifically D Barnett and a healthy Curt Maggitt coming off the edges for hopefully a full season

  

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Marcus Jackson will miss significant time.

  

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16. "Auburn's Malzahn decries SEC 'disadvantage'"
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this guy....lol

http://espn.go.com/blog/travis-haney/insider/post?id=4433


BRISTOL, Conn. -- As an SEC coach sat down with me Tuesday, he joked that the league’s “bigger personalities” had already visited ESPN the previous day. Alabama’s Nick Saban and LSU’s Les Miles were part of the group he was referencing.

“We’re the guys who don’t say as much in meetings,” the coach said, referring to the eight SEC coaches at ESPN on Tuesday.

Of those eight, Auburn’s Gus Malzahn is the most understated and reserved. But he was plenty vocal during his time in Bristol.

Of note, he was firm in saying that the College Football Playoff should be expanded to eight teams because it would “guarantee” entry for two SEC teams.

He also agreed with the idea that the SEC is at a disadvantage in the playoff because of the rigors of its conference schedule, even though other power conferences already aren’t happy that the SEC plays eight league games as opposed to nine.

“Compared to everyone else? Yeah ,” Malzahn told me. “Look at the SEC West. All of the teams are in the top 25. What other conference can say that? Then, if you win that, you’ve got to play another really good team from the East. And then you’re in the semi, having to win two more games. That’s why I think it’s critical that we move to eight teams .”

Malzahn isn’t the first person to put this thought out there. ESPN analyst and former Ohio State standout Chris Spielman mentioned this last fall, noting that teams such as Florida State and Ohio State had a chance to be fresher in the playoff because of easier conference schedules.

Fans of other conferences, of course, didn’t like Malzahn’s way of thinking. They already think the SEC complains too much.

Head coaches in other Power 5 leagues weren’t exactly in agreement with Malzahn, either.

“I think that’s the most absurd thing I have ever heard,” one said. “Isn’t there a month at least between the regular season and the playoff, anyway, to rest and recover? Wouldn’t you want to play against the top competition to prepare yourself for the playoff?”

Here are some other takeaways from conversations with SEC coaches this week.

There’s a long way between now and the season opener, but those close to Georgia’s program indicate that Virginia transfer Greyson Lambert has a real chance to win the starting job. The fact that Lambert has played at a high level before is meaningful to coach Mark Richt.

“He’s been there,” Richt said. “He’s been through the process of being a starter. He’s been hit in the mouth and had to keep playing. He’s been there at the college level.”

This isn’t to rule out Brice Ramsey or Faton Bauta, who went through spring as the top two QBs, but Lambert is a grad transfer who is showing the ability to acclimate faster than some at other schools.

“Regardless of who it is,” Richt said, “our players are most interested in finding the right guy for the job.”

If redshirt freshman David Cornwell fares well early in preseason camp, those familiar with Alabama’s QB battle say he could be named the starter by mid-August.

“He’s bright. He understands football,” Saban said of Cornwell, the No. 4 pocket passer in the Class of 2014. “He’s similar to Coker in size . He’s a decent athlete, but not really a runner. He’s got a chance to be good; he just hasn’t played.”

Because of his stature and arm, Coker, an FSU transfer, was thought to be a shoo-in a year ago to be Bama’s starter. But he never found his footing and Blake Sims won the job.

“Somebody, to me, has to win the team,” Saban said, adding that Sims did that a year ago. “You can’t just make it happen. You can’t ordain someone into it. You have to win the team.”

As of now, indications are that Cornwell is closest to doing so.

Saban seems to really like the way he has set his defensive staff.

“It has meshed as well as any I’ve ever had,” Saban said.

The key to that has been coordinator Kirby Smart's move from the secondary to coach the linebackers, something Saban says will help because it moves his focus to the middle of the defense instead of the back end.

The Tide added veteran NFL assistant Mel Tucker to coach the DBs and “intern” Tosh Lupoi to help with the linemen. Saban called Lupoi, known for his recruiting vigor, “one of the best young coaches in the country.”

Tennessee’s Butch Jones has definitely noticed the hype building around his program, but he’s going out of his way to tamp down expectations. And why wouldn’t he? It wouldn’t do the Volunteers much good for Jones to start making bold predictions about how they’ll do in the SEC East.

After all, the Vols did go just 7-6, including a 3-5 SEC mark, in 2014. They’re not “there” yet, despite the buzz.

“There’s just too many areas that are still unproven,” Jones said. “But they’re talented. I like their mentality and work ethic. I do like this team and I do think the expectations are healthy for Tennessee football, having Tennessee in meaningful conversations this time of year.”

I asked Arkansas coach Bret Bielema whose idea it was to put the team’s offensive line on the cover of the 2015 media guide. He pointed to his sports information director, who was standing nearby.

“But I really liked the idea,” he said. “It stood for what we are all about. I normally never take an underclassman to a press conference or put them on a magazine, and there’s a sophomore , but I went with it because it was representative of our team and the group mentality that we have.”

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19. "lololololololololololololololol"
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Auburn and the rest of their SEC West brethren should worry about the fact that Ba, Auburn, and the Missisippis gave up 1300 combined rushing yards in their bowl games

MSU - 451 to GT
Miss - 177 to TCU
Bama - 281 to OSU
AUB - 400 to Wisc

Aka cmon lol

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18. "Im excited for this upcoming Cal season and have legit expectations "
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To have a very good season. Cal should win 8-10 games this season. We have the QB and offense to win just about any game, the majority of question marks are on defense. Our defense has a bunch of returning experience so if those players can show some improvement and the defense can go from bad to average we should have a great season.

  

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20. "Mizzou QB dedicates his season to his ailing father"
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http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/104133/missouri-qb-maty-mauk-playing-2015-season-for-his-dad

Greg Ostendorf, ESPN Staff Writer

HOOVER, Ala. -- Maty Mauk has helped lead Missouri to back-to-back SEC East Division titles, and he might be the most talented quarterback in the conference.

Yet there are still critics.

Despite how well he's played under pressure, there are still those who have accused him of being too much of a gunslinger with double-digit interceptions last year and a completion percentage (53.4) among the worst in the SEC.

But Mauk doesn't care. He's got bigger things on his mind.


Missouri quarterback Maty Mauk's father recently began chemotherapy and his son has dedicated the upcoming season to him. Kevin C. Cox/Getty Images
The Missouri quarterback arrived at SEC media days earlier this month with an extra sense of motivation. He wasn't talking about his bow tie like at last year's event. He was more serious, focused on the upcoming season and winning a third straight division crown.

Some might say it's because he's a year older, a year more mature. Others will tell you he's tired of finishing runner-up in the SEC. But if you ask Mauk, he'll tell you it's because he's playing for something bigger than football this season.

"My dad, he has a big influence on everything I do and who I am," Mauk said. "This is going to be one for him, for sure. I don't even want to talk about it to anybody. I just want to go out there and play. I don't need to tell you what I'm going to do. Just watch me. I'm going to do it.

"That's what I've got to say about that."



The story begins in a doctor's office where Mauk's father, Mike, went in for a routine colonoscopy early last month. They found a malignant tumor in his colon and diagnosed him with colorectal cancer. He began chemotherapy about a month later.

The news crushed Maty. He didn't believe it at first. He thought it was a bad dream.

"We're a very close family," Mike said. "We have four children, three boys and a girl, with Maty being the youngest. Our main function growing up was that we were always together. I think that it was real tough on him initially just as it was the other three kids and as well as my wife.

"But then once we realized what we were battling against, you regroup and you hold strong to your faith and who you believe in, and you're ready to face the situation."

Maty learned of the diagnosis on a Tuesday night and reached out to Missouri offensive coordinator Josh Henson. When he woke up the next morning at 6:30, he had eight missed calls from other coaches on staff, including Gary Pinkel, Andy Hill, Craig Kuligowski and Barry Odom. They were all calling to check on him.

It was the same for his teammates. He hadn't even told close friend Evan Boehm before both Boehm and his father reached out.

Even the Mizzou fans showed their support to Maty, his father and their family.

That's how it works at Missouri. The same thing happened when teammate Harold Brantley was involved in a serious car accident last month. Coaches, players and fans all reached out to support Brantley during a difficult time.

"When was deciding on where to go to school, he had some very good options," Mike said. "When he began to weigh everything, the things we were just talking about was the main reason why he picked Missouri. It was Coach Pinkel, his staff, the 'Mizzou-made' attitude that's been so prevalent. They care about their players.

"Now I'm not saying that's not other places, don't get me wrong, but it just seemed to be a natural fit for Maty. That's where he felt most comfortable. That's where he felt he could play as an individual and as a part of a team.

"As I look back, there couldn't be a better place for him to be than where he's at right now."



Mike has been to all but one of his son's games at Missouri. And he hasn't forgotten the one he missed.

The former high school football coach, who spent 20 years in Ohio, took a job at Springfield (Missouri) Glendale last fall. Ironically, the game he missed was back in Ohio when Missouri played at Toledo. Mike couldn't find a flight Saturday that would get him to the stadium by noon, and he didn't have time to make the drive.

The streak might be in jeopardy again this fall. He's expected to go off the chemo toward the end of August so his body can recover in time for surgery in October. In the weeks leading up to the surgery, his plan is to still be at every game. He even set his surgery on a Monday so he could make Saturday's game, but doctors are now telling him that he might have to miss that week.

Still, he remains optimistic.

"If I'm still alive and able to, I will be at his games," Mike said.

And regardless of where he is and what he is going through, cancer is not going to change how he drives his son.

"When I was the head coach at Toledo, was probably 10 years old and I knew his dad," Pinkel said. "So I've known him for a long, long time, and I know he will be on butt about making sure he plays his best. We can laugh about it, but that's true. There's no question that he'll be on him about keeping himself focused."

Not that Mike will need to do much to keep Maty focused. If his appearance at media days was any indication, the Missouri quarterback is plenty focused for the upcoming season.

  

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it's me and 3 women.

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lmao this team can never ever go through an off season without any sort of turmoil.

there go my plans to make it down to Blacksburg. O well..Bosa is the one that is gonna hurt the most.


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Just a short time ago, Ohio State received what’s expected to be a string of No. 1 votes in preseason poll. Now we learn that, when the Buckeyes take that No. 1 ranking into the opener, they’ll do so without a handful of key components.

In a press release, OSU confirmed that four players will miss the first game of the season, Sept. 7 vs. Virginia Tech: junior defensive end Joey Bosa, sophomore H-back Jalin Marshall, senior receiver Corey Smith and junior H-back Dontre Wilson. The only reason given was “violating Department of Athletics policy.”

The loss of Bosa will be most noteworthy nationally as the 2014 All-American is a consensus pick to similar squads entering the 2015 season. He’s also projected to be a Top Five pick in the 2016 NFL draft if he leaves OSU early, perhaps even the top pick overall.

The Columbus Dispatch writes that “he Buckeyes likely will make do for the loss of Bosa by picking from a defensive end corps which includes sophomore Tyquan Lewis, who emerged in the spring as the new starter for the vacated spot on the other end of the line, redshirt-freshman Sam Hubbard, sophomore Jalyn Holmes and redshirt-freshman Darius Slade.”

Wilson and Marshall had split time at H-back prior to the former’s injury, which allowed the latter to become a breakout star and one of the most dangerous weapons on an offense loaded with them. In traveling to Blacksburg to face a tough Hokie defense, just how deep and loaded that group is will be tested.

Braxton Miller, who announced last week that he would be moving from quarterback, could very well be an option at the H-back in the opener, and even beyond.

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24. "Forewarning: Michigan State "
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>michigan wins 8 games this year including an upset over Sparty. write it down.

Chill bro.

Great coaches and wins > everything else

Dantonio's record at MSU speaks for itself. Rose Bowl two years ago. Cotton Bowl win over Baylor at Jerry World last year. Four straight bowl wins in all.

We lost RB Jeremy Langford (Bears), who was the fastest RB at the combine. We lost All-American CB Trae Waynes (Vikings), who was the fastest CB at the combine.

First-round CB Connor Cook is back. The O and D lines are elite.
Next year's recruiting class will be the best in school history.

College Football Playoff is in reach. Y'all are on notice.

Tip your cap and keep it moving.

  

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25. "just an upset pick of mine, dont read into it too much"
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>Great coaches and wins > everything else

not sure if you noticed, but michigan got themselves a pretty good one too.



>Dantonio's record at MSU speaks for itself. Rose Bowl two
>years ago. Cotton Bowl win over Baylor at Jerry World last
>year. Four straight bowl wins in all.

congrats, those past bowl wins wont help you this season though.


>We lost RB Jeremy Langford (Bears), who was the fastest RB at
>the combine.

and the 4th best rb in the Big 10


>First-round CB Connor Cook is back.

I feel sorry for any team that takes Connor Cook in the first round.


The O and D lines are
>elite.

shilque is elite. idk about the rest

>Next year's recruiting class will be the best in school
>history.

on paper maybe, we'll see in 3 seasons. but dino has been recruiting well.

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27. "at least pretend like you are used to being good lol"
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That sounded like you trying to convince yourself

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29. "http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/msubronzehelmet459.jpg"
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30. "so terrible. no need for the bronze at all."
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34. "RE: so terrible. no need for the bronze at all."
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"Do you remember the time?" - MJ

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35. "is that ur way of saying you actually like them? lol"
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33. "RE: at least pretend like you are used to being good lol"
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I'm sorry you misinterpreted what I wrote.

I've been watching Tom Izzo for 20 years. I'm used to success.

I know what a great coach looks like. Dantonio is one of them. The wins speak for the themselves.

Y'all can keep waiting for us to fall off. In the meantime, respect the record.

  

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26. "ok. hi."
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QB will be interesting.

Whether Lockie is the guy or Adams comes in and takes over, they'll be surrounded by a wealth of skill.

Ground game should be potent. Quietly we've got one of the most productive receiving corps in the land. Excited to see Addison back full-time.

Defense should be fairly typical of post-bellotti era... opportunistic.

  

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28. "That Kansas and Oklahoma to the Big Ten nonsense"
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KU could have legs because they aren't tied to the Purple Cats but OU is not leaving without a protracted fight with OSU begging to come along.

Since a fit like Mizzou is in the SEC now, I'd say you find a partner for Maryland like UVA.

I'd see OU in the SEC before the Big Ten.

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31. "Big Twn should have looked to KU and MU the first time"
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AAU members, geographical continuity, new rival possibilities, and a measure of strength for the west

Too late now tho

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32. "I'd rather have both of those than Rutgers"
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I don't think Maryland is a bad add

I still believe the Big is going to 16 at some point

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36. "Welcome home, Terrelle"
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thank you for telling the NCAA to go fuck themselves during the investigation.

Tattoos seem so trivial now dont they? Considering what transpired in Not So Happy Valley, Coral Gables, and now that fake university in Chapel Hill.

Once a Buckeye, Always a Buckeye.

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Ohio Stadium won't get a second look at the talent again on Friday night. The long, smooth strides that made Terrelle Pryor look more like a sprinter or a receiver or, who knows, a water skiier, during his Ohio State career will be kept on the sideline by a hamstring.

So Ohio State fans taking in the Browns scrimmage at the Shoe will be left to see Pryor standing there and rewind their mental Youtube. To before the tattoo scandal. To the time when Pryor was just a guy who might take off and gobble up what seemed like 15 yards in two strides.

Our Browns reporters have swaddled you in stories of Pryor's bid to make the team after a position switch, and how that will unfold I have no idea anymore. But here's what interested me in talking to Browns General Manager Ray Farmer at an annual breakfast hosted by the Columbus Sports Commission on Thursday morning.

Back when we were all watching Pryor in scarlet and gray and thinking, in a nutshell, this guy is an athletic freak, Farmer was thinking the same thing. It must have been what everyone was thinking.

You maybe weren't sure exactly how to use him or what he'd wind up doing. But Terrelle Pryor in Ohio Stadium -- that was a sight.

"All of that is still there," Farmer said Thursday morning. "It's obvious. It's evident that God sprinkled a little more dust on him than the rest of us, or a lot of us.

"He's tall, he's big, he's fast, he's agile ... he makes it look real easy. Even though he's just recently come in to playing wide receiver, he makes it look easy. He's smooth, he glides when he runs."

There was lots of talk then, from 2008-10, about his throwing motion and reading defenses and the thousands of things that go into playing quarterback beyond being 6-foot-5 and 230 pounds. NFL quarterback? Absolutely a shot, if all that came together. Can't say I thought receiver then.

As Farmer watched, did he?

Well, he was quick to bring up Pryor's jump ball touchdown catch in the Fiesta Bowl after his freshman year.

"I was thinking, 'Wow, that's impressive,'" Farmer said.

"You always evaluate the player for the position that he is playing," Farmer said. "But I was trained in a way where you've got to look at where this player can have the most effect on the football team.

"So then you move forward, and the guy goes to college and makes a lot of big things happen. And you're thinking, 'Wow, this guy is a phenomenal athlete.' He did it in high school at a high level and he did it at college at a high level and then you see glimpses and flashes of his athleticism in the pros when he's had the ball in his hands as a quarterback and you're like, 'there's more there than meets the eye.'

"So you just have to give him an opportunity to put it all together."

When Pryor decided he'd try receiver, the Browns decided they'd try him. In a league of elite skills, not just the Big Ten, he's a worthy risk, because he might be different.

I can still remember talking to Braxton Miller for the first time when he was in high school and the Buckeyes were recruiting him as Pryor's successor. That both those talents are now playing receiver in Ohio is the kind of thing that makes you stop and think.

Ohio State opens camp Monday as Miller begins his move to catching the ball in practice. Maybe having Pryor do the same in Ohio Stadium on Friday was too much to ask. Merely his presence is a story.

"It's always interesting to see how fans respond," Farmer said. "In some cases you could get glorified and have people cheer and clap and yell. In other situations, I've seen guys get booed."

We'll see a reaction Friday. What we won't see is Pryor in action in the stadium he called home for three seasons. As Ohio State knew then, and the Browns are finding now, he can do things you don't often see.

"There's a lot of pieces there for him," Farmer said.

Seven years after he first played a snap in Ohio Stadium, teams are still figuring out what to do with that.

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38. "I'm really pumped for Pryor."
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I heard about this the other day. I think it's great, and his physical skills are so ridiculous that I think he has a great chance to make a career at WR.
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39. "OSU fucked pryor over in a major way"
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interesting that nobody on okp had/has a problem with it....yet somehow MoC is everyone's favorite martyr

go figure

  

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42. "He got nothing but love. 11w swipe "
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TERRELLE PRYOR MOBBED BY FANS AT OHIO STADIUM, CALLS OHIO STATE RETURN AS PART OF BROWNS SCRIMMAGE 'A BLESSING'
By Eric Seger on August 7, 2015 at 8:55p

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One fan wanted his glove. Another, a selfie. Many others just wanted to touch him, or to have him acknowledge them as he brushed by the Ohio Stadium wall with a Sharpie scribbling his name on all sort of regalia.

You'd think he never left.

Terrelle Pryor, the former Ohio State quarterback ousted by the university in 2011 after his involvement in the Tatto-gate scandal that rocked the Buckeye football program, returned home Friday as a member of the Cleveland Browns (his fifth pro team).


"I got a chance to talk to a lot of people that I know and got to meet a great coach in Urban Meyer," Pryor said among a sea of Orange and Brown on the east wall of the Ohio Stadium turf. "Also got to step on the field and run a little bit, so I had a good day."

Pryor worked out his gimpy hamstring early Friday afternoon, trying to keep it loose and work his way back even though he was unable to participate in the franchise's Orange and Brown scrimmage.

"I HAD A LOT OF GREAT GAMES HERE. NOT A LOT OF LOSSES. MAKES ME THINK OF ALL THE TEAMMATES I HAD AND THE BLESSINGS."
– TERRELLE PRYOR
"I had a lot of great games here. Not a lot of losses. Makes me think of all the teammates I had and the blessings," Pryor, who's trying to make it as a wide receiver, said. "Just being around Coach (Jim) Tressel and seeing all the fans wearing scarlet and gray."

Pryor was issued a five-year ban from the institution for his role in the scandal, but was able to attend the scrimmage as an employee of the Browns. He called the first time he ran out the tunnel Friday "surreal," and wasn't disappointed he couldn't suit up due to his injury.

"It's all business. I gotta handle my business," Pryor said. "My business is to get fresh and be ready to make plays. That's all I can do."

Browns General Manager Ray Farmer gushed about Pryor's maturation and focus at becoming a wide receiver one day earlier at the Columbus Morning Sports Report, saying he's taking his "opportunity of a lifetime" in stride.

"He's been amazing," Farmer said. "A lot of credit goes to the young man."

He won a lot of games as the starting quarterback under Tressel at Ohio State, but with how fans — both Cleveland and Ohio State supporters alike — yearned for his attention goes a long way toward thinking he was forgiven for what happened in 2010.


"We ain't have no bad times here," Pryor said. "It's good to be back."

All was well Friday for Pryor, who said the scrimmage was the first time he really got to talk to Meyer. Ohio State's coach recruited the 6-foot-6, 250-pound freak athlete briefly when he was the head man at the University of Florida.

He's still got that outstanding talent, but is a different human being from the one that left Ohio State nearly five years ago.

"I've got a one-year-old son," Pryor said. "I love him. I love football. I'm a praying man. I just want to go make plays. That's it."

What's next? Getting healthy and helping the Browns compete at a high level in the 2015 season. Anything further with Ohio State is fully up to Meyer, he said, but it won't slight the way he feels about the school he led to Rose Bowl and since vacated Sugar Bowl victories.

"Absolutely," Pryor said about potentially coming back in the future. "That's going to be on Coach Urban, but I love this place."

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43. "good. hope he'll be around a lot more in the future"
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37. "Les Miles, Strict Disciplinarian"
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BATON ROUGE, La. -- LSU coach Les Miles confirmed Wednesday that he has reinstated offensive lineman Jevonte Domond to the team despite pending domestic violence charges.

Miles said after practice Thursday that he will not comment publicly on the situation before East Baton Rouge District Attorney Hillar Moore decides whether to push forward with the case. Miles expressed confidence, however, that he made the correct decision in reinstating Domond, a junior backup.

Domond was charged with felony domestic abuse battery with strangulation on May 25 following an altercation with his fiancée in which she accused him of several violent acts. Among the allegations included in the police report:

• That during an argument, the fiancée was leaning over their newborn baby's crib and Domond grabbed her from behind by the neck, lifted her off the ground and caused her to begin losing consciousness. The baby was allegedly present during the altercation.

• That as the argument progressed, Domond would not allow her to leave the home although she asked several times.

• That after she shot him with pepper spray, Domond slammed her on the sofa and bit her on the left hip before she sprayed him again.

The arrest report states that she then left the residence and drove to a sheriff's office substation with a friend who saw the event. She said Domond followed them in his car but did not turn into the substation parking lot. The witness confirmed the story, according to the report, and officers "observed injuries on the victim consistent with her story."

At the time of his arrest, Domond told police that he and his fiancée "got into it" but denied strangling or biting her. He told the officers that he picked up his fiancée while being pepper sprayed to get her to stop and that the injury on her hip was from the fall and not from him biting her.

Domond accused his fiancée of pulling a kitchen knife on him earlier in the day and threatening to cut him, but she said that was an act of self-defense after he had pushed her before the incident.

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44. "So no clit? "
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http://deadspin.com/minnesota-ad-resigns-for-sexually-harassing-colleagues-1722693283

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45. "what a fucking creep"
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48. "Fuck him"
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49. "Seriously, never should've been hired"
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http://deadspin.com/report-former-minnesota-ad-faced-sexism-complaints-goi-1723290953

First, Norwood Teague resigned as the University of Minnesota athletics director after two university employees filed sexual harassment complaints against him for sending them incredibly explicit, and incredibly disgusting, text messages. Then, a Minnesota basketball reporter detailed her own experience being sexually harassed by Teague. And now, the Star Tribune reports that both the University of Minnesota and Virginia Commonwealth University, Teague’s previous employer, have paid a combined $300,000 to settle claims brought about by Teague’s behavior.

In 2012, then VCU women’s basketball coach Beth Cunningham filed a complaint accusing Teague of gender discrimination. The records the paper was able to get their hands on don’t specify the exact reason for the complaint, but do say that the University settled it for $125,000. Cunningham left VCU in 2012 to become the associate head coach at Notre Dame, her alma mater.

Teague was hired by the University of Minnesota in April 2012, and it took fewer than six months for his actions to get his employer in trouble. Via the Star Tribune:

In March 2013, Regina Sullivan, a senior associate athletic director for the University of Minnesota, filed a federal complaint against the U after she was fired from the school in October 2012. Teague, she said, “expected a woman in my position to take a passive role and defer to men’s opinions” on issues pertaining to Title IX, the law that bans sex discrimination in any federally funded school.

In her complaint, Sullivan said Teague fired her because she questioned his “commitment to Title IX.” Records show the U settled with Sullivan in April 2014 for $175,000.

And if you think that’s all, well, you really haven’t been paying attention. Besides the blatant sexual harassment of Star Tribune reporter Amelia Rayno and the two unnamed University employees by Teague, the Star Tribune paints the picture of an athletics department institutionally discriminating against women. It quotes former Gophers women’s volleyball coach Stephanie Schleuder, who sent a letter to the University Board of Regents in 2013 that was ignored. The letter “demand that Teague apologize for comments he made in the Star Tribune, saying the school could not add more sports because of Title IX.”

The University of Minnesota is also being investigated by the federal government for its compliance with Title IX, after an anonymous complaint alleged that women’s athletics teams were getting too little funding, and that the roster for them were getting smaller.

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46. "sorry to hear about Thomas Tyner, matt. that dude is a beast"
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he was the only player on Oregon's offense who didnt look scared in the national championship game.

http://www.csnnw.com/ducks/breaking-oregon-running-back-thomas-tyner-out-season-following-shoulder-surgery

regon running back Thomas Tyner will miss the 2015 season after having successful shoulder surgery on Friday, according to his father, John Tyner.

The junior former five-star recruit out of Aloha High School rushed for 573 yards and five touchdowns last season as the primary backup to Royce Freeman.

Tyner, who started the national title game, was expected to compete for the starting job this season. His loss could force senior Byron Marshall to return to running back after spending most of last season at receiver.

Tyner injured his shoulder while returning a kickoff last season against Washington. UW linebacker Shaq Thompson raced downfield untouched and hit Tyner square on the shoulder. Tyner continued to play and had three carries for zero yards before exiting the game. He missed the following contest at California before returning to action against Stanford to have one of the best games of his career.

Lingering pain and discomfort led to Tyner undergoing surgery. His father said the procedure went well and Tyner is expected to make a full recovery and return to action in 2016.

John Tyner said that naturally his son is down about missing the season but is looking forward to next year.

Marshall, who led the team last season with 74 receptions and 1,003 receiving yards, in 2013 led the team with 1,038 yards rushing and 14 touchdowns.

Oregon's receiving corps is deep enough to absorb Marshall's return to running back, assuming that Devon Allen fully recovers from a knee injury suffered while returning a kickoff against Florida State in the Rose Bowl.

Marshall moved to receiver after Bralon Addison injured his knee during 2014 spring drills and was lost for the season. Addison is now back healthy and ready to resume being one of the team's top receivers.

Of course, nothing would prevent Marshall from doing double-duty. He did rush for 392 yards last season while primarily playing receiver.

Also in the running back mix are redshirt sophomore Kani Benoit, redshirt freshman Tony Brooks-James and true freshman Taj Griffin.

Oregon begins fall practices on Monday.

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YOU DON'T HAVE to travel to Ann Arbor to catch the Jim Harbaugh show. If you live near a high school football field, Harbaugh will come to you. In June, the new Michigan coach toured the country, stirring excitement and controversy equally by orchestrating nine prep camps in six other states. Who would've known that Michigan football has struggled for nearly a decade? Like a magician with a silk handkerchief fluttering from one hand and a coin palmed in the other, Harbaugh has induced the public to focus on the wrong object: himself. His sleight of hand has been so deft that you might believe for a moment that Michigan, and not Ohio State, won college football's first-ever playoff.

But if you do find your way to Ann Arbor, you'll realize how Harbaugh has re-energized college football without coaching a game. Here at Schembechler Hall, a gallery of artifacts eulogizes rosier days -- cable-knit jerseys in maize and faded blue, trophies and Tom Harmon's tattered-and-torn No. 98. No séance will raise these departed souls. But there isn't a coach who understands the spirits of this program as well as Harbaugh, nor one as willing to risk his reputation to revive it.

On this afternoon in June, shortly after returning from his tour, Harbaugh is speaking quietly with a prep tight end from Massachusetts. Over the recruit's left shoulder, he detects a reporter with a notepad loitering outside his office. His eyes widen, possibly in recognition of colliding forces. Recruiting. Publicity. And the curtain lifts.

"Gimme the ball!"

Harbaugh jumps to a stance, knees flexed, arms out. He backs his rear end into the recruit's hip, bumps him off balance, boxing him out. "Basketball's great for a tight end," he says. His voice carries down the corridor. "Catch the ball. Get some reps." He raises his hands and calls for a pass.

No one is sure what to do. Not the kid. Not his parents. Not Harbaugh's assistant coaches, mustering to the sound. They all stare, as one does at a man up onstage courageously risking foolishness in search of inspiration. Suddenly, as if scripted, another recruit appears.

"Hey, you play basketball?" Harbaugh yells. He leaps toward the new recruit, posting him up. "Wait," the kid says, confused. "Are you on offense or defense?" Harbaugh's neck swells. "I'm getting the ball!" he says. There is no ball. This fact now self-evident, Harbaugh ultimately straightens, fixes his eye on some distant object, then ambles onward to further duty. (The tight end, three-star recruit Sean McKeon, enjoyed the display enough to commit the next day.)

Detractors claim that Harbaugh plays to effect. At a camp in Alabama, for instance, he trotted the fields bare-chested, jumping into the fray with potential recruits. Others say that Harbaugh is insensible to the ever-present lenses. Still a third option exists: Maybe he is a performer by disposition.

"I'm about as transparent as a baggie," Harbaugh says. What isn't so clear, though, is why Jim Harbaugh has become the provocateur of football coaching. But that he is. Before the arrival of Harbaugh, there was no personality strong enough to compete with Urban Meyer. A new, intensified period in the program has begun -- just as when Bo had Woody and Fielding had Knute, the balance of power in college football is once again poised to shift to the Midwest.

Later in his office, after posting up the prep, Harbaugh is present, though little more, his eyes darkly leveled on a greater burden. He sits against a backdrop of winged helmets and stray mementos (one plaque advises simplicity: just coach the team), declining to concede anything about the importance of beating Ohio State, much less Meyer. "It could be a nameless, faceless opponent," he says.

Harbaugh and Meyer met for the first time at an annual Big Ten coaches meeting in February, and they're still learning to become rivals. But dig deeper into the record books and a shared history unfolds along the Ohio-Michigan border -- a history that might indicate where this rivalry is headed.

NOVEMBER 1986, DAYS before facing Ohio State, Michigan's senior quarterback Jim Harbaugh: "We're going to play in the Rose Bowl this year. I guarantee it. We'll beat Ohio State, and we'll be in Pasadena Jan. 1."

"I was sick as a dog," Harbaugh says, remembering that trip 200 miles south to Columbus. "Hundred-and-something . Got food poisoning. Just all night throwing up. I think I slept an hour."

The next afternoon, ignorant of the opposing quarterback's sickly feeling, a graduate assistant for the Buckeyes was just happy to be part of the rivalry. It was the first year in college coaching for Urban Meyer, a 22-year-old Ohio kid on the staff of Earle Bruce.

"I was a GA by pay but full-time by responsibility," Meyer recalls. "They were having a good year, but they lost to Minnesota. So all we had to do was win and we go to the Rose Bowl. ... I can't tell you my phone number or address, but I can tell you all the plays."

Especially the one that provided the margin. In the fourth quarter, Harbaugh handed the ball to seldom-used tailback Thomas Wilcher. A Detroit product, Wilcher had found greater success in the high hurdles, winning an NCAA championship. But on this day, he didn't need to leap, simply plowing the ball seven yards over the goal line to put the Wolverines up 26-17. They would hold on for a 26-24 victory.

IN THE JUNE drizzle, Wilcher attends to the sidelines of Dakota High School in the Detroit suburb of Macomb. More than 1,000 prospects looking for scholarships clap in unison. The Sound Mind Sound Body camp might be the country's best gathering of recruits -- and coaches. Meyer will be here. Harbaugh too. And Michigan State's Mark Dantonio, and Brian Kelly from Notre Dame, as well as Penn State's James Franklin.

Dressed in a green pullover and baseball hat, Wilcher is too stout these days to clear a hurdle, but he still finds himself central to the fortunes of Michigan and Ohio State. Wilcher is the coach at Cass Technical High School, and although Detroit might no longer be the factory town it once was, Cass Tech stamps out top preps with industrial regularity. Players have generally rolled off the line to Ann Arbor, but the recent rise in Columbus has altered the supply chain, placing Wilcher squarely between Harbaugh and Meyer.

Last year Cass Tech running back Mike Weber was considered the best recruit in Michigan, a 5-foot-10, 210-pound bruiser with elite speed. "Mikey's heart was at Michigan," Wilcher says. Weber committed to previous UM coach Brady Hoke, but when last season disintegrated in Ann Arbor, Weber reconsidered.

Wilcher walks the fields coaching the kids. He passes Dantonio, who won the Rose Bowl in 2014 and this year's Cotton Bowl yet still is drowned out by whatever fuss Michigan happens to make. Dantonio's scowl of the disregarded is deepening. Wilcher keeps walking, past Kelly, who stands under a tent, out of the rain, where he endures a shower of questions from a few website guys with a camera:

"Would you rather be a dragon or ride a dragon?" one of them asks.

"Ride a dragon," Kelly says, his face enduring.

"Taylor Swift or Ariana Grande?"

"Taylor Swift."

Kelly and his colleagues must play along in this paddock session of modern coaching, lest they appear distant, out of touch. They have to seem like kids but adults also. Although it is possible that 51-year-old Harbaugh enjoys listening to Lil Wayne, perhaps there is more to his gift of a personalized Michigan jersey, which former QB Denard Robinson handed off to the rapper before a recent Detroit concert.

Wilcher continues his rounds, passing Buckeyes cornerbacks and special-teams coach Kerry Coombs, who looks like a living flag of Ohio State, scarlet golf shirt, head of gray hair. During Meyer's first season in 2012, there were only two players from Michigan on the roster. He knew well the Wolverines' long-held practice of poaching talent from Ohio. So he charged Coombs with returning the favor. "It was strategic," says Coombs, a longtime Ohio high school coach. "How can you ignore a bordering state if they have great football players?" The first time Coombs flew into Detroit, also in OSU gear, the attendant at the rental counter claimed he had run out of cars.

On Dec. 8, two days after Ohio State had won the Big Ten title, Coombs, Meyer and running backs coach Stan Drayton visited Cass Tech to sell Wilcher and Weber on Columbus. Weber quickly committed. His pledge was solid -- for 20 days -- until Michigan hired Harbaugh. "Mike's family told him to listen to what Harbaugh had to say," Wilcher says. "He liked what he said. He couldn't sleep. He couldn't eat. It's the effect that Harbaugh brought to the table."

On Jan. 15, Tyrone Wheatley visited Weber. If there was anyone who could identify with the top player in Michigan, it was Wheatley, who himself had been a Detroit-area back and the state's No. 1 recruit in 1991. Wheatley would become the Big Ten Offensive POY in Ann Arbor before spending a decade in the NFL. Weber's recruitment was so critical to Harbaugh -- for the roster, for perception -- that he dispatched Wheatley to work the kid a few days before hiring Wheatley as running backs coach.

"It became a street fight to get him at the end," Meyer says. On Feb. 3, the night before national signing day, Weber was on the phone with Harbaugh and Wheatley. Then Weber called Wilcher with news. "Around 1 in the morning on signing day, he called Ohio State and said, 'I'm going to Michigan,' " Wilcher says.

The OSU coaches continued to reason with Weber, according to Wilcher, Drayton most diligently of all. He informed Weber that Karan Higdon, a back from Sarasota, Florida, was about to flip from Iowa to Michigan. As the night wore on, Wilcher says, Weber felt increasingly isolated. Harbaugh's NFL pedigree was enticing, but why hadn't he said anything about Higdon?

The following afternoon, as Weber marched to the podium at his news conference, he confided in Wilcher: "Coach, I'm really not sure." Wilcher put it to him straight: "Mike, now is the time when you need to make a decision." Weber flipped one final time and signed with Ohio State.

The next afternoon, the Chicago Bears announced that they had hired Drayton away from OSU. Weber immediately tweeted: "I'm hurt as hell I ain't gone lie." Says Wilcher: "Mikey is still confused." According to Meyer, he was caught off guard: "The day after signing day, says, 'I want to go look at this job.' And then I get the call that he's going to take it. I didn't think about recruiting."

But let's not be naive about the stakes in the business of this game. Two years ago, Dantonio hired Curtis Blackwell, founder of the Sound Mind Sound Body camp and former assistant at Detroit's Martin Luther King High School, to aid Michigan State in recruiting. Earlier this year, Harbaugh hired Chris Partridge, the coach at New Jersey's Paramus Catholic High School, to do the same at Michigan. Defensive tackle Rashan Gary, the No. 1 player in the ESPN 300 rankings, will be a senior at Paramus Catholic this fall.

While the carousel spun in Columbus and Weber was left to wonder about his decision, Harbaugh took the stage, tweeting on Feb. 7: "Thought of the day -- What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive! -- Sir Walter Scott." To be clear, he wasn't talking about Iowa's losing Higdon to Michigan. Regarding Weber, Harbaugh now says: "Was it a priority? Sure. Did that one leave a bruise? Yes. Did we get our nose bloodied and our lip split a little on that one? Yes. But today's a new day. We're back competing at it again."

Meyer had beaten Harbaugh but in doing so had damaged his own standing in Michigan. "I spoke with Meyer," Wilcher says. "I told him, 'I get texts every day calling me a traitor. I went down to your camp and put on Ohio State s---. I'm from Michigan. My kids are from Michigan. You have to be honest if we're going to continue to have a good relationship.'"

A ripple of recognition runs through the camp. In a side room of the high school, like a substitute teacher finally finding a class, Meyer quietly appears. He's wearing the wrong colors in enemy territory, but that'd be hard to tell. The glare of a national championship ring tends to make people colorblind.

Standing against a wall in an OSU golf shirt, bottle of water in hand, chatting, Meyer catches sight of Coombs, who extends his right hand to the boss. Meyer steps forward and slaps it. With that loose, easy smile, Meyer lets out a yell: "Doctor Detroit!"

ROUTE 23 RUNS from Columbus to Ann Arbor, tying one campus to the other and eventually Harbaugh to Meyer. "It seemed like the longest drive," Wheatley says of his trips south on the Wolverines' team bus. Sometimes there is a valley. Often the road lies flat. It always carries on, though, same as this rivalry.

About 100 miles north of Columbus, Route 6 bisects Route 23 in Gibsonburg, Ohio, like the bottom bar of the uprights. About 12 miles due west on Route 6 lies Bowling Green. Here, Jack Harbaugh, Jim's father, won a small college division national championship as a player in 1959, then returned as an assistant in 1968. Thirty-three years later, Urban Meyer, then 37, arrived in Bowling Green for his first head-coaching job. Success and potential carried him away after only two seasons, not looping him back to Columbus until a decade later.

About 15 miles due east on Route 6 lies Fremont, Ohio, home to Ross High School. On West State Street, in the warmed-over morning light of Billy's Coffee Shop, 50 miles southeast of the Michigan border, a man sits down to a plate of eggs. Solomon Woodson started attending games in Ann Arbor in 1967. He still goes, tailgates at the golf course across from Michigan Stadium. Of all those games, one is unlike the others: Nov. 22, 1997, 11 years to the day after Harbaugh guaranteed victory. Michigan was ranked No. 1, Ohio State No. 4. Three rows up, behind the Buckeyes' bench, Solomon Woodson watched his son, Charles, of Ross High and the Michigan Wolverines, backpedal to the 22-yard line. There he fielded a second-quarter punt. He raced down the opposing sideline, toward the Heisman Trophy, passing his half brother, Shawn Simms, the OSU defensive ends coach, along the way. That is the rivalry -- two states, two schools, one family.

Solomon Woodson forks through his plate, back in the present day of Michigan's troubles. "That's not a conversation you'd enjoy to have with Charles," he says. "Charles would say, 'We expect to beat Ohio State.'" His mood lifts when talk turns to Harbaugh. "It's the best thing that could have happened. He can say, 'I played against those guys. I beat those guys.' He's for real."

URBAN MEYER SITS on a couch in his bunkered, windowless office in Columbus. It is quiet. He is remembering.

"We had just lost to Iowa on the last play of the game," he says. "Earle Bruce was saying, 'They're gonna get me, they're gonna get me.' I was so young. I didn't know what he meant." It was November 1987, the week of the Michigan game. Meyer was readying for practice when a team manager summoned him to this very room.

"I walked in," Meyer says. "Two or three coaches were crying. Earle Bruce was sitting right there." He points to a bookshelf now overstuffed with volumes. "I stare at it sometimes and think, 'Holy s---.'" Bruce had been fired. Later that week, in Ann Arbor, Ohio State won Bruce's final game. In the coaching change to come, Meyer left Columbus. He carried the rivalry with him.

"I was raised in the Ten-Year War," says Meyer, who was born in Toledo and grew up in Ashtabula, 170 miles to the east. "My dad was a big Woody Hayes guy. So I was born and bred with that staked on your heart."

Occasionally, Meyer will institute a School Up North week for his players. He distributes Ten-Year War tests. "The Victors" pumps from the speakers in the weight room. Along the hallways of the Woody Hayes building, the displays that commemorate the rivalry feel like a celebration of Ohio State's recent dominion, 11 wins in the past 13 meetings. Here lies a difference. Since taking over, Harbaugh has cleansed Schembechler Hall of countdown clocks, garb, etc. For Michigan, the goal of reclaiming the rivalry is distant, possibly so daunting that Harbaugh does not want to distract his players from the short-term goal of simply getting better. Perhaps that is why Harbaugh is not effusive when discussing the rivalry. Meanwhile, Meyer waxes all he wants.

"It's personal," he says. "When I look across and see the winged helmets and their coaches and their players ... I've been in rivalries. Utah-BYU. Bowling Green-Toledo. Florida, we had three: Florida State, Tennessee and Georgia. You make them personal, but they're not. I didn't grow up disliking Georgia. When I was 6, I was thinking about this rivalry. This one's seared on your soul. It's ingrained through every part of your body."

Now, in Harbaugh, Meyer must adapt to a competitor whose fervor for the rivalry approximates his own. "I don't know him," Meyer says. "I know the name. I know what he's done. I'm sure when you cut him open, this rivalry's all over the place. There's no rivalry between the two of us. But he grew up in the era too. This guy gets it. He was a part of it. This is very personal on both sides."

Meyer pauses, then continues. "I hear he's a heck of a motivator. I know when we play them, you better buckle your chin strap as hard as you can because it's going to be a free-for-all. That's what I expect out of him."

Meyer has other assumptions, surely. Stories of the conflict that Harbaugh, then at Stanford, so cleverly instigated with Pete Carroll, then at top-ranked USC, are recounted often within coaching circles. Notably when Harbaugh, who'd just arrived in Palo Alto, incorrectly predicted that Carroll would leave USC in a season. He said he'd heard it from a coach on the Trojans' staff. (Recruiting. Publicity. The curtain.) There is also the postgame confrontation in 2011 with then-Detroit Lions coach Jim Schwartz, who said later that Harbaugh, despite the 49ers' winning, had directed an expletive at him during the handshake. And more maddening Harbaugh anecdotes buzz along the coaching world's party line.

What does this tell us? That Harbaugh makes them nervous. Harbaugh places himself in a rival's presumed area of propriety, refusing to move, demanding a reaction. This is called competitiveness. Meyer knows all about it. He still remembers that Michigan-Ohio State week back in '86 when Harbaugh guaranteed victory, which outraged college football's conservative sensibilities -- which is exactly what Harbaugh must have wanted. For all this time, Harbaugh has been forcing people to respond to him.

"That's been brought to my attention a few times by colleagues," Meyer says. "I'm at the point in my career where I'm good. I guess I'm better at handling situations than I've been in the past. So if something does show up, I'm not giving it much thought." The Ohio State coach smiles. "I've been warned."

THERE IS A knot in the rivalry, and Route 23 ties it in the northwest corner of Ohio. The roadway twists up and around Toledo, five miles south of the Michigan border, a place to which Harbaugh and Meyer have always been drawn.

Central Catholic High School coach Greg Dempsey sits in the press box, overseeing his team's summer camp. But winter is on the mind. The winter of 2002, when Meyer, then the coach at Bowling Green, stopped by. School was out for a snow day. The two hit a diner. "Urban was different from everybody else back then," Dempsey says. "He knew my life story. He was into building a relationship." A year or so later, Harbaugh, then the coach at the University of San Diego, showed up. "He came all the way out here," Dempsey says, shaking his head. There was a school picnic. They ate pizza. "He's instantly returned Michigan to what it was without even playing."

As Dempsey discusses the rejuvenated rivalry, two of Central Catholic's star players from last season's Division III state title team join him. Michael Warren, a 5-10, 185-pound back, rushed for 2,246 yards as a sophomore. James Hudson, also a rising junior, could be an even more valued recruit, a 6-5, 260-pound defensive end with power and agility. Coaches from Ohio State and Michigan have visited in recent months, making their faces known.

Hudson and Warren are Ohio kids. Hudson tweeted a picture of them in scarlet-and-gray gear from the Woody Hayes building. But they have learned enough about the recruiting game to understand that the best team in the land isn't always the best team for them to land on. "I'd rather be on an up-and-coming team," Hudson says. When Michigan hired Harbaugh, Warren's father cautioned him to keep an open mind. "Think about how many kids it's their dream to go to the NFL," Warren says. "And he knows everybody there."

But blue chips alone don't make Toledo a landmark on this trip along Route 23. A mile and a half from Central Catholic is the old Mercy Hospital. Decades ago, a Mercy physician, William Wiedemann, was the team doctor for Central Catholic. In the fall, he would attend home games, the field so unlike the hospital's sterile passageways. In the summer lull, on July 10, 1964, at Mercy, Wiedemann delivered a baby boy, Urban Frank Meyer III.

On its way out of Toledo, two and a half miles south of the Michigan border, Route 23 runs by Biggby Coffee on North McCord Road. Inside sits Sue Crandall, one of Wiedemann's daughters, who has short white hair. "Oh, Dad would have gotten a kick out of this," she says. She never knew that the Ohio State coach was among the children that her father, gone these 47 years, had guided into life. "He liked football. He was competitive." Crandall thinks back over how little has changed, from Bo and Woody to Jim and Urban. "They treat these coaches like gods."

ALTHOUGH HARBAUGH HAS yet to coach a game at Michigan, his name and the debate of what's to come can be heard along Ann Arbor's pathways and in its summer-session classrooms and in bars that stretch beyond South University Avenue. Such is the thrill of anticipation.

Harbaugh carries the weight of it. Tucked into his office among the fields and arenas at the south end of campus, the Michigan coach minimizes expectations. "Our strategy would be to get better today than we were yesterday," he says. "Get better tomorrow than we were today. 'Improvement will lead to success' theory. So simple that it just may work." These words give meaning to his removal of countdown clocks. Harbaugh allows his players to focus inwardly, which is as simple as any coach could make it. He politely considers the question of Ohio State, yet he declines to grant the rivalry increased significance. "You want to be better than them," he says. "It's not fun to have other people think you're not as good as they are. That fuels the whole thing. We want to win. We want to win that game."

Then there is the question of Meyer. What role could a personal conflict play? Harbaugh keeps it simpler still -- in his way.

"Your objective is the same," he says. "You want to win. Ten-tenths, you want to win. If you know him, does that make you want to win eleven-tenths? In that movie Spinal Tap, remember the guy talks about, 'This goes to 11'? It doesn't. It's 10 out of 10. It's 100 percent. That's as high as it goes. You can't give 110. The point is, because you know somebody, or because you have some kind of personal -- I mean, I played against my brother in the Super Bowl. Whether he was my brother or somebody I didn't know, it doesn't raise the level of how much you want to win."

Then talk drifts south, to Route 23. In the early 1960s, Meyer's father, Urban II, was raising a family in Toledo and working as a chemical engineer at the Hilton-Davis Sterling Drug Co. At the same time, Harbaugh's father, Jack, served as an assistant at Perrysburg High School, where Route 23 performs a buttonhook westward around the city. Until today in his office, Harbaugh is unaware that the men lived 10 miles apart. But it is the next revelation that compels him to pick up his phone and betrays the fact that personal connections do register with him.

A woman answers on the coach's speakerphone. "Hey, Mother," Harbaugh replies, "it's your son, Jim."

"What's going on?" says Jackie Harbaugh, her voice cheerily crackling to life through the speaker.

"I'm here with ESPN The Magazine. ... I guess the interesting part of the story is that Urban Meyer and I were born at the same hospital six months apart." Jackie answers quickly. "It wouldn't have been the same doctor, though."

"No, it wasn't the same doctor," Jim says before further revealing his curiosity. "What was the Michigan-Ohio State rivalry in Toledo at that time?"

"Listen, we were 23, 24 years old. I didn't have a whole lot of time to think about Michigan and Ohio State. ... I just respected Woody and Bo. They were from a different generation of coaches where you went by a handshake when you went there to coach. You know what I mean? Your word was a handshake then. And today, people don't respect a handshake anymore."

"I still do. All right, Mom, thank you."

"Love you. Take care."

"Love you, Mom. Bye."

Harbaugh hangs up.

"Hmm," he says. "How 'bout that? That's pretty cool." Harbaugh suddenly wants to know more about Urban Meyer: "Was he older?" Learning that he himself got half a year head start in the race, Harbaugh, the competitor, grins. Or maybe it is a scowl.

After a while, there's nothing more to discuss, at least not in Harbaugh's mind. He grabs the arms of his chair. "Yeah," he says, in an exasperated whisper. "Yeah." He lifts himself to his feet. He makes for the door, talking as he goes. "Not to be rude or anything, but I just want to get back to -- see if we can't get better," he says. "I don't know if I'm getting better right now. I don't feel like I'm getting better right now." Harbaugh walks down the hall. He lifts a fist in the air. "Go Blue!"

WHEN OHIO STATE'S convoy of buses crossed the state line into Michigan, following Route 23 through the town of Whiteford, Woody Hayes would stand up, face the seats and say, "We have entered enemy territory."

From there, it's 35 miles north to Washtenaw Avenue, where Route 23 exhausts its narrative utility. Four miles west, Michigan Stadium sits empty -- except for Section 12, Row 67, Seats 1 and 2. This is where John Baldoni has positioned himself for 20 years of fall Saturdays. Baldoni runs his own consulting firm and is the author of more than a dozen books on leadership, a certified observer of Michigan's struggles. "No one was acknowledging the problems," Baldoni says. "As a leadership person, that's what bothered me."

Baldoni was born in Ann Arbor while his father, Paul, was studying at the University of Michigan Medical School. After receiving his degree, Paul Baldoni relocated his family to Ohio, entering practice in Perrysburg, 11 miles south of Toledo. He remained a supporter of the team up north. "Dad enjoyed tweaking his doctor friends," John Baldoni says. "He would bet a friend, an OSU dental school grad, $100 every year on the outcome." Paul Baldoni had no inkling that, at Mercy Hospital, he had delivered a baby boy, James Joseph Harbaugh, who would one day influence the results of future friendly wagers. John Baldoni looks over the Big House. He talks about Charles Woodson's runback, 18 years ago, the confidence that Michigan carried into those games only a recollection. "I was sick for a day when they hired Urban Meyer," Baldoni says. "A brilliant move. Hiring Jim was equally brilliant. The two of them -- this could be a great rivalry. We're in for something special. Jim's enthusiasm is contagious. It'll rub off. He'll bring the glory back."


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BEFORE THE PROSPECTS take the field at the Sound Mind Sound Body camp, Thomas Wilcher walks into a classroom at Dakota High School. A crowd gathers for a news conference. Wilcher locates Meyer. "Coach, you know who I am?" Meyer nods. The two shake hands. "Who else you got coming up?" Meyer asks. Wilcher grins. Leverage in a relationship is hard to deny.

There is a stir in the room. Heads turn. Conversations pause. Harbaugh walks in, wearing maize and blue. He sees Meyer and heads right over.

Harbaugh greets Wilcher, his old friend from Michigan's '86 backfield. Harbaugh and Meyer shake hands, for just the second time. They stand and look at each other, exhaling.

Harbaugh says something, briefly. Meyer does too. Their dialogue is lost to the resumed, performed chatter of the room. Harbaugh's face is tense, serious. Maybe he is just worn out from the road. But this is Harbaugh, so one can never tell what came before, or what's about to come now.

Then Harbaugh says something else, his words audible. It is a fragment of conversation. "Shirts and skins." No doubt, it's a reference to his stunt at the camp in Alabama.

Meyer laughs. He reaches out and slaps Harbaugh playfully in the right shoulder. The tension of the room deflates. Few people are so alike as one football coach is to another. Most of all, in their propensity to perform, even for each other.

But they all know that summer is the time for backslaps. Come the last Saturday in November, Ohio State will travel 200 miles up Route 23 to resume an old rivalry and to shake hands at the end. To Harbaugh and Meyer, those are the only connections that will matter.

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51. "Oregon fans hate the new ESPN CFB commercial..."
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LMAO

http://www.scout.com/college/oregon/forums/1423-open-season/14008458-espn-s-who-s-in-video

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52. "what a weird fucking fanbase"
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54. "cmon. eDuck? really?"
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55. "im running low on material..i just need the season to start asap"
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i fell asleep the other day, just searching for something to watch on tv

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56. "AP Top 25"
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1. Ohio State (61)
2. TCU
3. Alabama
4. Baylor
5. Michigan State
6. Auburn
7. Oregon
8. USC
9. Georgia
10. Florida State
11. Notre Dame
12. Clemson
13. UCLA
14. LSU
15. Arizona State
16. Georgia Tech
17. Ole Miss
18. Arkansas
19. Oklahoma
20. Wisconsin
21. Stanford
22. Arizona
23. Boise State
24. Missouri
25. Tennessee

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57. "UNANIMOUS"
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this year's team is going to be a juggernaut.

better than 02-03 miami
better than 2003-2005 usc
better than 06 & 08 florida


god damn can we start the season already.


edit, interesting note.

Ohio State has been preseason No. 1 seven times. It has never won the national championship in any of those years, although it did finish 2nd the last two times it was preseason No. 1 (1998, 2006). The Buckeyes have started at least 8-0 both of those years (8-0 in 1998, 12-0 in 2006).

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61. "the future is ridiculously bright but we're still a long way from this"
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last year's team still lost to VT to begin the season. they got their shit together and got hot at the end. 02-03 miami was pretty much a wire-to-wire machine

regardless of how great this year's team might be...finishing off the season with wins agasinst MSU, univ of harbaugh, and then 3 post-season games will be no easy task

>this year's team is going to be a juggernaut.
>
>better than 02-03 miami
>better than 2003-2005 usc
>better than 06 & 08 florida

  

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63. "if* Braxton was healthy, we win that game easily."
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he would have made that bear defense look silly.

i think if we run the table, repeat & pick up a heisman along the way, you can easily put this team in the company of those aforementioned, especially considering the # of potential first rounders.


>last year's team still lost to VT to begin the season. they
>got their shit together and got hot at the end. 02-03 miami
>was pretty much a wire-to-wire machine
>
>regardless of how great this year's team might be...finishing
>off the season with wins agasinst MSU, univ of harbaugh, and
>then 3 post-season games will be no easy task
>
>>this year's team is going to be a juggernaut.
>>
>>better than 02-03 miami
>>better than 2003-2005 usc
>>better than 06 & 08 florida
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64. "DAT BUD!"
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66. "every year im still amazed he isnt a HC somewhere else..."
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imagine him running the show for Da U ?

or what about Bud Foster in North Carolina after Fedora gets canned?

i know not all coordinators are great HCs but he deserves a shot.

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72. "i honestly dont think he has any interest"
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Seems like he just loves running a defense

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67. "and if Braxton was healthy OSU loses to MSU"
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but thats not really the point.

Braxton didn't play on the '14 team so it has no bearing on any type of historical context. it's no different than saying what if roby and shazier stayed...

  

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62. "Cmon, show some faith in your squad"
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>better than 02-03 miami
>better than 2003-2005 usc
>better than 06 & 08 florida

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70. "i stopped short of 1994 nebraska. i didnt wanna get carried away nm"
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65. "0-1 is gonna look great on you nm"
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85. "avi bet"
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58. "Sarkisian gets drunk, talks shit, pulled off stage & forced to apologize..."
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LOL

http://www.pacifictakes.com/usc-trojans/2015/8/23/9193283/usc-trojans-head-coach-sark-salute-to-troy-drunk-rumors-inebriated-turn-up


Steve Sarkisian has had some rough times personally, so you can imagine that he's not the best frame of mind right now.

That being said, Sarkisian has a history of venting behind close doors (he bashed Cal at a Washington donor event after snatching peak recruiter Tosh Lupoi away) and open ones (he made fun of fancy uniforms at Pac-12 Media Day, and Oregon was quick to pounce). Saturday night, he went peak Sark Week on Saturday Night at the Salute To Troy event. The Salute to Troy is the official kickoff to the USC football season and an annual school-sponsored event for big donors and is usually a festive showing.

But it turned south pretty quickly when Sark took the stage in front of the USC players, staff, coaches, their families and friends and all the assorted donors.

We only have some tidbits of his antics via Twitter, but here are the key points that we can focus on.

Sarkisian was definitely drunk at the event and slurring his words during the speech. That's been confirmed by multiple sources at the party.
Sarkisian dropped an F-Bomb while introducing his team to the donors. UPDATE: Here is the video.


https://twitter.com/PacificTakes/status/635542653648678912


https://twitter.com/CoachSark/status/489948976251039744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

UPDATE: Sarkisian has apologized in a statement from USC Athletics.

Here are USC head coach Steve Sarkisian and athletic director Pat Haden on Saturday night's Salute to Troy event:

Sarkisian: "I sincerely apologize to my players and staff and to our fans for my behavior and my inappropriate language at our kickoff event Saturday night. I have a responsibility to all of them and I let them down. Pat Haden talked to me after the event about my actions and I assured him this will not happen again."

Haden: "I met with Coach Sarkisian and I expressed my disappointment in the way he represented himself and the University at our Salute To Troy event. While the details of our conversation will remain between us, I am confident he heard my message loud and clear."


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59. "Holy shit at him and Kiffin on the same offensive staff"
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Can't imagine how annoying that must have been

  

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60. "this guy sucks"
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I remember you telling me that in last year's offseason post. I figured he could do a decent job at SC but I've sold all my stock on Sark...

  

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68. "fraud, always and forever"
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and he's a fucking mess

going through divorce, since it's well known that he slept all over the place while in Seattle

complete alcoholic... SC is now saying alcohol is banned in the LOCKER ROOM *this year* (evidently it wasn't before)

there's a screenshot going around of a ~$600 bar tab he had expensed to the husky legacy fund (or whatever it's called) which among other gems covered 40 patron shots.

  

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69. "lol wow @ all that.....smh. so sloppy. tighten it up "coach" "
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>and he's a fucking mess
>
>going through divorce, since it's well known that he slept all
>over the place while in Seattle
>
>complete alcoholic... SC is now saying alcohol is banned in
>the LOCKER ROOM *this year* (evidently it wasn't before)
>
>there's a screenshot going around of a ~$600 bar tab he had
>expensed to the husky legacy fund (or whatever it's called)
>which among other gems covered 40 patron shots.

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71. "Yep this is all true"
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Cutty Sarks drunken exploits while at UW have been well documented by UW fans.

  

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114. "RE: Sarkisian gets drunk, talks shit, pulled off stage & forced to apolo..."
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And now has relinquished play calling duties to Clay Helton?

That was Sark's strong point. That is why they hired him.
If there was pressure to do so, that makes Pat Haden look
even worse than he already does. Shit is a mess right now it seems.

  

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118. "this is such a fallacy..."
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>That was Sark's strong point. That is why they hired him.
>If there was pressure to do so, that makes Pat Haden look
>even worse than he already does. Shit is a mess right now it
>seems.

1) he isn't some kind of offensive wiz the way the TV knobs suggest he is time and time again
2) he was hired *purely* because of his history with the program under Carroll, and the fact that he was *not* kiffin.

  

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120. "RE: this is such a fallacy..."
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>1) he isn't some kind of offensive wiz the way the TV knobs
>suggest he is time and time again
>2) he was hired *purely* because of his history with the
>program under Carroll, and the fact that he was *not* kiffin.

fair enough, if you want to credit all of the SC talent and not
give any of that to Sark, no prob. But either way, it is a bad
look for the program and for Pat Haden to make that change
now. It suggests that *someone* doesn't think Sark can
handle it, and if it is actually Sark himself that is concerned
with his play calling abilities than the issues are even larger.
It's the timing of it that looks bad.

  

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73. "Why the fuck is Popular Mechanics startin shit?"
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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74. " i laughed so hard when i read that tweet this morning"
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http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2015/08/utah_using_cupcake_quote_from.html

ANN ARBOR -- You've got to find your motivation from somewhere, right?

And in the case of Utah vs. Michigan, Utes coach Kyle Whittingham had to search high and low to find anything that painted his club as an underdog.

He eventually found it.

In "Popular Mechanics" magazine.

According to FOX 13 in Salt Lake City, Whittingham's staff has posted a quote from a "Popular Mechanics" monthly calendar in the team's locker room in advance of the Utah-Michigan game on Sept. 3.

The magazine notes that on Sept. 3, the "college football season gets underway tonight with the University of Michigan in a cupcake game against Utah."

It should be noted, of course, that Michigan is currently a 5 1/2-point underdog against Utah in this game, and "Popular Mechanics" knows next to nothing about college football.

But it didn't stop Utah from using it as motivation.

"Our team is always juiced no matter what," said Utah receiver Kenneth Scott told FOX 13. "So, with that little thing that they put in our locker room about us being a cupcake game it definitely puts more intensity into the game, just because of that little statement that was made.

"And plus we're always trying to prove everybody wrong, because everyone sees us as the underdog, so we always have the chip on our shoulder."

— Follow MLive's Michigan coverage on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram

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75. "bad news vibes coming out of Columbus...."
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https://twitter.com/AriWasserman/status/636671794280275972

Ohio State abruptly cancelled interviews and people in this building look like they got the wind knocked out of them.

https://twitter.com/JGrega11/status/636672042289483776

OSU abruptly cancelled interviews just minutes ago. Players walking off field gave off a somber vibe to say the least


edit,update wr noah brown likely out for a significant amount of time...

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76. "Illinois coach Tim Beckman fired amid external review"
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this guy was a real dirtbag smh

& kudos to Illinois for making a tough & brave decision to can him this close to the start of the season

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/13533196/tim-beckman-fired-coach-illinois-fighting-illini


ust one week before their season opener, the Illinois Fighting Illini have fired football coach Tim Beckman amid allegations of influencing medical decisions and pressuring players to play hurt, athletic director Mike Thomas announced Friday.

In a statement, Thomas said the dismissal was related to preliminary results of an external review into the allegations, which also included efforts to avoid reporting players' injuries.

Former offensive lineman Simon Cvijanovic raised similar allegations on Twitter in May, leading to the university's launching of the review, which is not yet complete.

"The preliminary information external reviewers shared with me does not reflect our values or our commitment to the welfare of our student-athletes, and I've chosen to act accordingly," Thomas said. "During the review, we have asked people not to rush to judgment, but I now have enough information to make this decision in assessing the status and direction of the football program."

Thomas, who informed the team Friday of the decision to fire Beckman, also said in the statement that there were instances in which players were treated inappropriately as to whether they could remain on scholarship during their senior year if they weren't on the team.

"Both of those findings are unsettling violations of University policy and practice and do not reflect the culture that we wish to create in athletic programs for our young people," Thomas said in the statement. "I expect my coaches to protect players and foster their success on and off the field."

The school said Beckman, who went 12-25 -- and 4-20 in Big ten play -- in three seasons at Illinois, will not receive the $3.1 million remaining on the final two years of his five-year contract.

Cvijanovic first raised his allegations on Twitter and said that Beckman forced him to play through shoulder and knee injuries in 2013 and 2014. He accused the team's medical staff of removing the meniscus in his left knee without his consent. A few former players came forward to echo Cvijanovic's claims, although others came out in support of Beckman.

He expects the findings of the review, which was conducted by an independent law firm, to be publicly released at some point during the season. More than 90 people have been interviewed and nearly 200,000 documents have been inspected during the investigation, and practice and game film have also been reviewed.

Bill Cubit, who was hired as offensive coordinator in 2013, will take over as the team's interim coach for the 2015 season, pending approval by the Board of Trustees.

Illinois opens the season next Friday against Kent State.

Less than an hour before the announcement, Beckman made reference to the team's upcoming opener on his Twitter account.

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77. "wow. what a piece of shit if true. "
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And they managed to upgrade at HC

Solid move from Illinois in 2 ways

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78. "Vernon Adams named Duck starter"
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had heard the competition wasn't very close, am unsurprised

let's get it.

  

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79. "Im not surprised he is the starter but I am surprised that the competiti..."
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supposedly wasn't even close.

I still have my doubt about Adams in that Oregon offense. He isn't much of a running threat.

  

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80. "he just needs to extend the play, escape..."
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and he's adept in that sense.

We're surrounding him with possibly the best group of WR the program has ever had.

  

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81. "Adams can certainly escape the pass rush and extend plays "
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He isn't Rosen, who is a statue. However, Oregon is going to lose a bit of its read-option threat. While Adams will pull the ball down and run from time to time he isn't the running threat that previous Duck QBs were.

  

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83. "I think you are overestimating the amount Marcus actually ran"
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the read-option is mostly about the *threat* of running, and specifically when there's a significant opening such that even a guy without great speed can be totally lethal.

  

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84. "Trust me I am not over estimating MMs rushing abilities "
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2012: 106 rushing attempts, 752 rushing yards
2013: 96 rushing attempts, 715 rushing yards
2104: 135 rushing attempts, 770 rushing yards

Vernon Adams Rushing stats:

2012 65 rushing attempts, rushing yards 342
2013 132 rushing attempts, rushing yards 605* this was in a 15 game season
2014 100 rushing attempts, rushing yards 285

Vernon Adams is not a threat rushing the ball like MM was. PAC 12 defense will play the pass first.

  

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119. "RE: Trust me I am not over estimating MMs rushing abilities "
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>Vernon Adams is not a threat rushing the ball like MM was. PAC
>12 defense will play the pass first.


again i really don't think he has to be.

And good luck against the RBs and a suddenly veteran OL playing the pass first...

  

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82. "On record: O$U bout to 95 Huskers this shit"
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87. "RE: On record: O$U bout to 95 Huskers this shit"
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154. "or not?"
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Funny that most of the blame for unmet expectations is directed at a former 'Husker coach who will likely be back for a second year, much to the chagrin of a few Buckeye fans

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155. "i think alot of fans unfairly blamed him..myself included"
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the common denominator in OSU's 4 losses in the last 4 seasons (how spoiled are we really lol) has been Urban's close to the vest playcalling in the 4th quarter. Hopefully this year he figures it out.

>Funny that most of the blame for unmet expectations is
>directed at a former 'Husker coach who will likely be back for
>a second year, much to the chagrin of a few Buckeye fans



this year season is going to be so much fun...a TON of young talent, a returning Heisman caliber QB and hungry playmakers everywhere. And theyll be tested early with that game in Norman Oklahoma.

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157. "the offense was in disarray up until the mich game."
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>the common denominator in OSU's 4 losses in the last 4
>seasons (how spoiled are we really lol) has been Urban's close
>to the vest playcalling in the 4th quarter.

wasn't just 4th quarter woes.

Beck was part of the problem but not the whole problem. I think in general the staff setup didn't work. We saw what happened when Warriner went up to the booth and called the plays. Also, with the hiring of Studrawa I think it's clear that Warriner was having to multitask with the OL and OC duties and was having difficulty doing so.

I think it's better to have 1 guy call the shots rather than this co-coordinator business.

hard to say that 12-1 was a frustrating season but it was. And braxton's lack of inclusion in the game planning was downright criminal. his pass catching abilities far exceeded my expectations. what a weapon he could have been.

  

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86. "FCS football on today at 330."
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and then 5 days before the start of the season...

FINALLY.

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88. "i went to a few hs games this weekend...had to get my fix lol"
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91. "who'd you see?"
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92. "a bunch of REALLY good teams"
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CC beat Muskegon 15-12 after being down 12-0 in the 3rd. WE'RE BACK BABY!! Muslegon is legit tho, and will be a force in Division 2. Well coached and very disciplined. CC turned it around by airing it out in the second half. Never thought Id type *that* out lol. They have some solid players on the perimeter. Alex Bock and Tyler Laurentius could play on the next level if the fact that they are white WR/CB doesnt interfere.

King beat De La Salle 12-10. All those elite skill guys for King are serious. Corley is a total WR prospect who happens to be a pretty good free safety, but Ambry Thomas and Lavert Hill are the best set of corners in the nation I would imagine. Thomas had a catch and run that was worth my ticket price. I wasnt all that impressed with Allen Stritzinger for De La Salle. He ran wild in the D2 state championship game last year as a soph (DLS won) but seemed to have very little wiggle in the hole. Their other RB was more impressive. He's definitely a burner but I liked him more at corner. He gave up about 4-5 inches and 20 pounds to Corley but didnt give an inch. That was a physical battle all game. I found out right before the game that DLS best player, LB Eric Rogers is out for the year with an ACL. They missed him BIG TIME. King turned the game around by going to a heavy dose of read option in the second half.

Detroit Loyala impressed me by hanging tough with OLSM before wearing down amd dropping 24-12. KJ Hamler is totally legit. Small and skinny, but electric in space. Saw him try to run before securing the ball a few times but other than that he lools like a dangerous slot guy. Josh Ross had a FRec but didnt stand out to me otherwise. Loyola is gonna steamroll people in D7 (again) and they have a game against DLS this year. I think the Catholic League wants to move them up with the big boys. Note this was thw worst officiated game of the 4 and Loyola got HOSED more than once or twice. Blaine Woodland for Loyola is a name that could pop up down the road. He ran away from everyone on OLSM on a 80 yard TD catch, and OLSM had speed.

Cass Tech beat the holy hell out of Southfield. Southfield doesnt have much of a passing game yet but Cass was a brick wall. Even if Matt Falcon had played (torn ACL) it wouldnt have mattered. There was zero room to do anything. Michael Onwenu is a monster.

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93. "damn, thanks for hte summary. Michigan HS fb is so much better now..."
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..compared to when we were in school. back there the parity was non existent.

>CC beat Muskegon 15-12 after being down 12-0 in the 3rd.
>WE'RE BACK BABY!! Muslegon is legit tho, and will be a force
>in Division 2. Well coached and very disciplined. CC turned
>it around by airing it out in the second half. Never thought
>Id type *that* out lol. They have some solid players on the
>perimeter. Alex Bock and Tyler Laurentius could play on the
>next level if the fact that they are white WR/CB doesnt
>interfere.
>
>King beat De La Salle 12-10. All those elite skill guys for
>King are serious. Corley is a total WR prospect who happens
>to be a pretty good free safety, but Ambry Thomas and Lavert
>Hill are the best set of corners in the nation I would
>imagine. Thomas had a catch and run that was worth my ticket
>price. I wasnt all that impressed with Allen Stritzinger for
>De La Salle. He ran wild in the D2 state championship game
>last year as a soph (DLS won) but seemed to have very little
>wiggle in the hole. Their other RB was more impressive. He's
>definitely a burner but I liked him more at corner. He gave
>up about 4-5 inches and 20 pounds to Corley but didnt give an
>inch. That was a physical battle all game. I found out right
>before the game that DLS best player, LB Eric Rogers is out
>for the year with an ACL. They missed him BIG TIME. King
>turned the game around by going to a heavy dose of read option
>in the second half.
>
>Detroit Loyala impressed me by hanging tough with OLSM before
>wearing down amd dropping 24-12. KJ Hamler is totally legit.
>Small and skinny, but electric in space. Saw him try to run
>before securing the ball a few times but other than that he
>lools like a dangerous slot guy. Josh Ross had a FRec but
>didnt stand out to me otherwise. Loyola is gonna steamroll
>people in D7 (again) and they have a game against DLS this
>year. I think the Catholic League wants to move them up with
>the big boys. Note this was thw worst officiated game of the
>4 and Loyola got HOSED more than once or twice. Blaine
>Woodland for Loyola is a name that could pop up down the road.
> He ran away from everyone on OLSM on a 80 yard TD catch, and
>OLSM had speed.
>
>Cass Tech beat the holy hell out of Southfield. Southfield
>doesnt have much of a passing game yet but Cass was a brick
>wall. Even if Matt Falcon had played (torn ACL) it wouldnt
>have mattered. There was zero room to do anything. Michael
>Onwenu is a monster.

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96. "well yes and no."
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The overall talent level has dropped from back then due to demographics and migration

But parity is definitely high

This is actually a banner year for Michigan talent. I heard saturday that around 70 kids are expected to sign D1

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97. "beautiful."
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>This is actually a banner year for Michigan talent. I heard
>saturday that around 70 kids are expected to sign D1

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89. "Everett Golson wins least interesting QB race ever"
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A truly shocking development!

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90. "I disagree, that honor goes to Vernon Adams and Oregon"
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Adams was on campus for all of two weeks of Fall camp after transferring before being named the starting QB.

  

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98. "Though it is kinda crazy that the last two Heisman winners"
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Have been replaced with grad transfers. These were barely even a thing ten years ago.

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94. "Jim Harbaugh is hilarious "
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Crazy Person Jim Harbaugh Once Played Nonsensical Mind Games With Frank Beamer


Just how crazy is Jim Harbaugh? Even crazier than you thought.

In an exhaustive Harbaugh feature Bleacher Report published on Tuesday, writer Lars Anderson relays a ridiculous story from Virginia Tech head coach Frank Beamer, where Harbaugh tried playing mind games with Beamer before their Orange Bowl matchup.




Nearly everyone who has orbited in Harbaugh’s solar system for a length of time possesses a whopper of an anecdote about the new Michigan coach.

Frank Beamer has one. The Virginia Tech head coach is sitting on a porch overlooking a golf course in Reynolds Plantation, Georgia, on a tar-bubbling summer afternoon—a lazy, storytelling kind of afternoon. As he puts down a glass of lemonade on a table, he says he has a tale to tell. It might just be, he claims, the weirdest damn story of his entire coaching career.

Beamer leans back in his chair and loosens a memory from late 2010. The Hokies of Virginia Tech, where Beamer has coached for the last 28 autumns, were preparing to play Stanford in the Orange Bowl. A few days before the Jan. 3 game, Beamer met the Cardinal head coach—Harbaugh—at an event in Planet Hollywood in Miami.

“After we take some pictures, we start talking, just the two of us,” Beamer said. “Jim says over and over how much respect he has for Georgia Tech. He must have said it five times. I’m just looking at him like, ‘Are you serious?’

“Finally, I’m joking with him and I say I can’t wait to tell my team that you called us Georgia Tech. Because, you know, we’re Virginia Tech.”

Harbaugh then threw his infamous shark expression at Beamer: mouth agape, eyes on fire, looking poised to chomp. Harbaugh’s assistants have seen this look for years; he sometimes holds it for about 30 seconds without speaking, causing everyone in eyeshot to wonder what is flowing through his mind—if anything.

Beamer continued to lock eyes with Harbaugh for a few moments, waiting for him to say something, anything. It may have been the most uncomfortable silence of Beamer’s life.

“Well,” Harbaugh finally told Beamer. “I can’t wait to tell my players that you said you were going to play Samford, not Stanford!” He then turned and walked away.

More than four years later, Beamer smiles at the memory, still befuddled by Harbaugh's response. “No question, Jim is a different kind of coach,” said Beamer, whose team lost in the Orange Bowl to Harbaugh and Stanford 40-12 in what was Harbaugh’s last college game.

“He’s either crazy...or he’s crazy like a damn fox.”



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95. "ZING!"
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>
>“Well,” Harbaugh finally told Beamer. “I can’t wait to
>tell my players that you said you were going to play Samford,
>not Stanford!” He then turned and walked away.

  

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99. "if you want to sign up for a weekly CFB pickem, for 50 bucks, lmk"
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several okps are involved already (veritas and 3x)

if we get enough people, you can win back your buy in entrance in just one week.


if half of you are as good as predicting games as you think you are, put up or shut up


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100. "Sidenote, I can't read any UCLA fan sites anymore"
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I used to think our fan base was fairly sane back when we were shitty (basically back when I was in school), and we're still not the type to poison our rivals trees or stab opposing fans or anything, but ever since we got good I realized these people are fucking nuts. I've actually gone out of my way to delete most of my UCLA sports related bookmarks from my browser cause reading any of those sites would just make me angry and it's put a bit of a damper on how excited I am for the season... I just want to watch the games really.

So I guess I'll be talking most my college sports on here since most of you guys are pretty reasonable and watch other teams besides your own.

  

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101. "it's not just UCLA man..all those fan sites* are horrible, ours included"
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>I used to think our fan base was fairly sane back when we
>were shitty (basically back when I was in school), and we're
>still not the type to poison our rivals trees or stab opposing
>fans or anything, but ever since we got good I realized these
>people are fucking nuts. I've actually gone out of my way to
>delete most of my UCLA sports related bookmarks from my
>browser cause reading any of those sites would just make me
>angry and it's put a bit of a damper on how excited I am for
>the season... I just want to watch the games really.
>
>So I guess I'll be talking most my college sports on here
>since most of you guys are pretty reasonable and watch other
>teams besides your own.


*excluding 11w.

but yea, the scout/rivals/247 sports posters can be over the top/obtuse

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102. "It sucks cause sites like 11W are good"
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Like, I actually check in on sites like 11W and Shakin The Southland and FishDuck and those aren't even my teams, and I feel like with there's a lot of good college football writing on the web in general these days. But nooo I get stuck with Bruins Nation and the crazies on Scout/Rivals/free boards and since we've actually been good the last few years, instead of one crazy guy yapping all offseason, we have like 10 crazy guys yapping all offseason.

Doesn't help that our offseason has gone as objectively as poorly as it could possibly go short of getting major NCAA sanctions or having several players turn out to be convicted felons (we've tried on the second one though).

  

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104. "dude FD is insufferable"
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and yes I abbreviated it because I don't want search results to lead here lol

he spent years talking about how "the media doesn't understand xyz" or "isn't explaining" and touting how he was the only person who understood anything with respect to Oregon x's and o's

but with respect to the affiliate scout/rivals/247s... my favorite part is that most of the subscribers are older folks who are completely delusional and out of touch with the realities of the players they are theoretically supporting

  

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103. "Mountain West"
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I am predicting 8-5 for my Bulldogs, losses being Ole Miss, Utah, Colorado State, Air Force and BYU. Which should get us into the MWC Championship again to lose to whoever the Mountain team is. The Mountain is stacked. Boise, Colorado State, Air Force are all 10-win teams. Even Wyoming isn't bad. The western division, whatever it's called, is all bad....I think Fresno will win it even though SDSU is pegged by many as winning it this year. I distrust SDSU greatly and I think we beat them in our head to head this year. We always play them tough.

The only thing that has me more pumped about this year than last year is that the coaches proclaim no more trying to stick a square peg in a round hole. We ran the spread last year with QBs incapable of running the spread well. We have a 3 headed RB attack with Waller (NFL prototype), Micenheimer (240 lb bruiser) and Garrison who transferred in from WVU. Behind what should be a good o-line, we had better be running the ball 40 times per game no matter what with 3 good backs and an unproven QB.

On defense, there are several question marks, with DB being the most experienced group but also having the most injuries. I have very little idea how good the D will be. It's hard to be worse than last year. I hope we can cut down on the long TDs. At some point, I went through the stats of 2014 and we gave up something like 25 TDs of 20 yards or more, including like 10 60+ yard TDs. It was horrible. All the while not forcing many turnovers.

Our MWC division is so bad, I think 8-5 with a MWC champ berth is realistic. That would be a solid year. A spectacular year would be that plus at least one win among the Ole Miss, Utah or BYU games and winning the MWC champ game.
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105. "why is everyone so high on Boise this year?"
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Ive seen "undefeated" chatter

And I can promise you one thing...CSU aint doin dick with Mike Bobo at the helm

The offensive downgrade there is SEVERE

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112. "RE: why is everyone so high on Boise this year?"
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Well, they did win the Fiesta last year, and they show good coaching and player development year after year. They did lose their starting QB Hedrick, but he was average at best, so they could easily be upgrading at QB. If they get out of September undefeated, they do seem pretty home free to run the table. BYU and Washington are the only serious threats. Air Force is at home. And I forgot about CSU losing McElwain already. If Chuckie Keeton is back and healthy, that's the only team I would say that has a shot of winning the Mountain over Boise.

Edit, and Boise is only #23 or so, which isn't crazy high.

>Ive seen "undefeated" chatter
>
>And I can promise you one thing...CSU aint doin dick with Mike
>Bobo at the helm
>
>The offensive downgrade there is SEVERE


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106. "FUCKIN FINALLY"
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107. "its the mosttt wonderfullll tiiiiime offfff the yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaar"
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even had a jameson and water this morning to celebrate.

THANK YOU *INSERT DEITY OF YOUR PREFERENCE*


*BREAKDANCES IN OFFICE*


*pulls hamstring*


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108. "the day is crawling smhlol"
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109. "Fuckin west ass coast time!!!"
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110. "... Is great for football!"
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I can basically start watching football from the second I get off work here until I go to bed tonight, and I basically cleared out my whole Saturday already, can't wait!

  

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111. "Unamerican. "
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116. "setting your clock for 9am games though?"
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ain't nothing good about that.

  

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117. "I'm now over 30 and no longer capable of sleeping in"
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For the most part the 9AM PST games are usually like Minnesota vs Illinois and I'll be awake to catch the 2nd half of any good early games around 11 or so. I'll take the tradeoff to catch the end of Pac 12 After Dark and still be able to go out after.

  

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113. "kick in the do' wavin the .44, all i heard was "Rutgers we dont want it ..."
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...no mo"


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http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2015/09/multiple_rutgers_football_players_arrested.html


Five current Rutgers football players, including the cornerback at the center of a university-led investigation into coach Kyle Flood, were charged Thursday with assaulting a group of individuals, including one student whose jaw was broken during the unprovoked attack, Middlesex County Prosecutor Andrew C. Carey and Anthony A. Caputo, director of the New Brunswick Police Department, announced.

The current Rutgers players charged in the attack were identified as: Ruhann Peele, 22, and Nadir Barnwell, 20, both of Piscataway; Razohnn Gross, 20, of Franklin Park and Delon Stephenson, 22, of Sayreville.

Delon Stephenson's brother, Daryl Stephenson, 23, a former Rutgers student from Sayreville, remains at large, police said.

Charged in connection with home invasions was Andre Boggs, 20, of Coatesville, Pa.

The players have been suspended indefinitely, Rutgers announced.

Barnwell is at the center of the investigation of Flood, with the university looking into whether the Rutgers football coach broke school policy by contacting a professor regarding Barnwell's grades. The junior cornerback was declared academically ineligible in the spring, according to two school officials.

Flood defied academic support staff when he contacted the professor, two sources told NJ Advance Media.

Peele was charged with assault in August 2014 for allegedly pulling the hair and scratching the face of a girlfriend. The charges were later dropped.

Barnwell was arrested for DWI and careless driving in October 2013 after police responded to an early-morning one-car crash in Piscataway.

Minutes before the charges were announced, Flood told reporters he was confident he would coach the team in the season opener Saturday at home against Norfolk State.

Here is the press release from the Middlesex County Prosecutor's Office:

Nine of the 10 defendants were arrested today. One remains at large. The arrests stem from an active and continuing investigation by the Middlesex County Prosecutor's Office and the New Brunswick Police Department.

The investigation began last spring when police were called to a home invasion on Prosper Street in New Brunswick on April 26, 2015 at 11:29 p.m., after three masked men forced their way into the home and stole an undisclosed amount of cash and marijuana from five students at gunpoint.

During an intensive investigation, police arrested Tejay Johnson, 23, of Egg Harbor. The former student was charged with robbery, criminal restraint, theft, and possession of a weapon for an unlawful purpose.

As the investigation continued, police linked Johnson to a home invasion on Hartwell Street in New Brunswick on April 27, 2015.

Police determined that Johnson and Andre Boggs, 20, of Coatesville, Pa., forced their way into the home and, armed with a bat and a knife, robbed a student of approximately $900 and an undisclosed amount of marijuana.

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They were arrested today on charges of robbery, burglary while armed, and conspiracy to commit an armed robbery.

Another student, Dylan Mastriana, 19, of Rio Grande, also was charged with those counts after the investigation determined that he helped plan the robbery.

In a third home invasion, Johnson and Boggs were charged with robbery, conspiracy to commit armed robbery, and attempted burglary while armed for trying to force their way into another student's room in a dormitory complex at Livingston College in Piscataway on May 5, 2015.

The same charges also were filed against Mastriana, Jianan Chen, 19, of New Brunswick, and Kaylanna Ricks, 20, of Perth Amboy. The investigation showed that Mastriana and Chen planned the robbery, while Ricks drove Johnson and Boggs in a getaway vehicle.

Johnson and Boggs entered the dorm, but fled when the students targeted in the robbery resisted by closing and locking the door to their room as Johnson and Boggs attempted to force their way in. Nothing was stolen in that incident.

Police further determined that Johnson was one of six individuals who surrounded a group of at least four other individuals, including a Rutgers student, and assaulted them during an incident on Delafield Street on April 25, 2015.

The six were charged today with aggravated assault, riot, and conspiracy to commit a riot. A 19-year-old male student suffered a broken jaw during the unprovoked attack.

In addition to Johnson, defendants charged in the attack were identified as: Ruhann Peele, 22, and Nadir Barnwell, 20, both of Piscataway; Razohnn Gross, 20, of Franklin Park, and Delon Stephenson, 22, and his brother, Daryl Stephenson, 23, both of Sayreville. Daryl Stephenson, also a former student at Rutgers, remains at large.

Keith Sargeant may be reached at ksargeant@njadvancemedia.com. Follow him on Twitter @KSargeantNJ. Find NJ.com Rutgers Football on Facebook.



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115. "Kick down the door in the spot 260, 2L, heard they got Os for sale"
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Thats exactly what happened here lol

Edit: Mastriana aint tellin no lies!

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121. "Duke University Football: 1-0. "
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122. "bird nest on the ground for Urb?:"
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https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/michigan-pulls-offer-from-longtime-recruit-weeks-before-signing-day-183637937.html

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123. "A good piece on the topic (link)"
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http://mgoblog.com/content/erik-swenson-and-talent-based-decommits

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124. "The michigan Difference (c)"
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https://twitter.com/UofMDieHards/status/689885285073612801



>https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/michigan-pulls-offer-from-longtime-recruit-weeks-before-signing-day-183637937.html

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127. "LOL at the vitriol from mich fans asking him to take the text msg down"
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I'm sure these are the same people who are all over the internets claiming moral superiority over every other program and especially Urban

  

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125. "Real talk, there's a ton of moving the goalposts from Michigan fans."
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I think this type of ish is shady as heck. When you look at how big our recruiting class is going to be, there has to be this type of stuff going on.

I know plenty of Michigan fans and alumn who used to be on that "SEC just oversigns and grayshirts while we are above all that" vibe, and put Urban in that same category. We are right there now - pulling commitments by just not talking to recruits, suggesting players to take medicals or transfer, etc. isn't what we used to do.

  

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126. "Well there are some clear distinctions to make"
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Telling a guy he isnt going to be offerred a 5th year is totally fine by me. If he wants to grad transfer go ahead. UM fulfilled their obligations by paying for a degree.

Similarly, after Matt Falcon (Southfield) tore his ACL, UM told him he could absolutely come to school on scholarship, he just wouldnt be on the team. That was like 5-6 months ago. His other offers were OSU, Tennessee, MSU, Oregon, UNC, et al. He is currently committed to Western Michigan. I see not even a whiff of impropriety here or above. Thats not the same as changing a guy's status after he is already enrolled. Greyshirting someone without talking about it before enrollment is not the same thing

As far as a guy like Ondre Pipkins, UM didnt use the scholarship so I dont see why that would have happened unless there were legit medical concerns. Walkons and Rudock had already been accounted for, AND he was still on full scholarship when he transferred. He would not have been invited back for a 5th year, so it had no impact on 2015, nor would it have on 2016. Again, not the same as telling a kid his ONLY chance to keep his scholarship is via medical.

THIS situation though...yeah, not great. Its one thing to part ways with a guy if you dont like his development and you give him a couple months to find a new spot. I have no problems with that. UM will revoke admission for h.s. seniors whose senior grades suck too. But with 3 weeks until signing day...this looks pretty shitty.

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130. "Eh...this is all accurate but the nuance and explanations weren't"
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there when we used to talk about the SEC and other schools.

  

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132. "Well i kind of laid out the scanrios i save *my* ire for"
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-greyshirting a guy AFTER he has enrplled because they signed too many

-medicalling scholarship #86

-any other method of pushing out an enrolled student before 4 years. (Pipkims scholly was valid for year 4)


Stuff prior to enrollment is much less shitty to me than stuff after. This case bends that a bit given the time until signing day. In that light i dont really like it.

BUT

i also dont think it was as our of the blue as its being portrayed.

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128. "supposedly this was harbaugh's recruiting style at stanford"
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lock kids in early and then bail when better recruits come along later in the game

  

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131. "Yeah...I've heard that they view the term "commit" loosely, and "
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there are levels depending on how good a player is. For some players they will accept an early commitment but tell them they will still be evaluating. And on the other side they don't mine if "committed" recruits are still taking visits to other schools. But that spot may or may not be locked down for them.

All of that is fine IMO as long as the communication with the kid is there. In this case though (and there have been a few others) it seems like their way of letting the kid know is just not talking to them and the kid is supposed to just figure out that the staff has cooled on them. That is wrong.

  

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133. "It's also tougher for Stanford to get commits"
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since their recruiting pool is a bit more limited than most schools, why not reach out early?

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165. "what's the running tally on recruits he's ran off now?"
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harbaugh embarrassing all of cfb now let alone his own university

  

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166. "greater than 0 but less than the number of arrests under Urban"
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<-- BAUGH SO HARD

  

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168. "what is nonsensical and irrelevant comebacks for $100?"
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lol

  

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167. "Harbaugh gets the notoriety "
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but we all know it's commonplace at a lot of schools

I mean do we really wanna know what's going on in Oxford, MS?

An also-ran school that hasn't won anything of significance as far as a conference title in 52+ years in a small rural community of 20,000 in the North Central Hills of MS. A small town that is several hours from any major city and a state flag that incorporates the Confederate battle flag that citizens refuse to give up?

Unless all those kids are big into blues history, and saying "Gosh Almighty Who the Hell are We"....it's a little peculiar

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169. "pay for play is a separate issue entirely"
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>An also-ran school that hasn't won anything of significance as
>far as a conference title in 52+ years in a small rural
>community of 20,000 in the North Central Hills of MS. A small
>town that is several hours from any major city and a state
>flag that incorporates the Confederate battle flag that
>citizens refuse to give up?
>
>Unless all those kids are big into blues history, and saying
>"Gosh Almighty Who the Hell are We"....it's a little peculiar
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170. "point taken"
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that's true but what is the real issue here?

It's mostly the Big Ten has been on record as being above the fray of roster management and oversigning and a hard cap of 3 over 85 at the end of signing day unlike other conferences

Is it purely just image? Maybe I'm cynical because I believe this type of stuff is happening more places than not. Maybe it's a "medical" here, a "come to Jesus" meeting behind closed doors about seeking other opportunities because you haven't made the gains towards earning a starting job in two years, a "violation of team rules".....nobody really knows

I just remember reading about Broderick "The Sandman" Thomas driving around in a flashy new Cadillac as a kid and being fully iced out before Chris Aire mattered when he signed my poster at the auto dealership.

Whether it's paying players or roster pruning, I don't think there is nary a place at the FBS level where it hasn't happened

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171. "it's not roster pruning"
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it's recruiting class pruning. not sure it has happened to this level at other schools. not that what goes on at other schools would have any bearing on the ethical nature of it. especially since mich fans have been rationalizing their loser program as one of higher morality than the rest of the peasants.


>Whether it's paying players or roster pruning, I don't think
>there is nary a place at the FBS level where it hasn't
>happened

  

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172. "semantics to me"
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at the end of the day you are managing your 85, before signing day or after

difference in ethics of losing your scholarship after one year because they weren't "good enough" or losing it before signing day is granular and negligible to me

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173. "im not really sure what you're arguing here"
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im not in favor of roster management in any forms.

  

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129. "surprised nobody has talked about Hoke as Oregon new DC"
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what a strange hire.

will mich fans be riding for Oregon defense like they do Arizona's offense?

  

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134. "Honestly they could do a lot worse"
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But why would anyone ride for Hoke? Lol

No one thinks he shouldnt have been fired, and no one went out of their way to shit on him as a human being. I actually was on record here before they hired him about what a terrible idea it was.

I hope it works out, but I also dont really care.

Rich Rod on the other hand, seems like a chill dude and is probably the most important innovator in my lifetime. He was also hung out to dry by the university and had a number of people at UM go out of their way to shit on him as a human being, while he never wavered from the high road.

So yeah I like him and his system.

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135. "Cosign on all of this. "
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145. "really? Dick Rod is the most important innovator of your life time too?"
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so Dick Rod is basically Benjamin Franklin with a headset. all this time I never knew.

  

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148. "Right because i was clearly talking about science and government"
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Do you know of a more important development in football since 1982 than the zone read?

If so id love to hear about it.

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150. "sorry, I only knew of 1 way to interpret your comment"
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my reading skills are actually pretty good...my psychic powers unfortunately are a bit rusty.

  

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152. "Do you have an argument against it or nah?"
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This whole time you could have been mentioning other recent football innovators

And instead you made a ben franklin joke?

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153. "smh why the fuck would i be mentioning other recent fball innovators?"
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I made a post to DISCUSS BRADY HOKE A RELEVANT FOOTBALL HIRING...not indulge you in your nutso dick rod obsession.

start a new thread for that shit please.

  

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159. "Because it would be better than your unfunny and unclever joke"
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161. "wasn't trying to be funny nor clever"
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and there's no way i could say anything that would top the absurdity of your original comment

stay mad tho

  

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144. "Oregon couldn't find a DC whose last and only DC experience"
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was at the high school level in 1981?????

and you were on here criticizing the Greg Schiano hire...LMAO.

  

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149. "Can you not read or is it a choice?"
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I referred to Schiano as "an ok hire" and "a competant coach" and that I expected a few years of OSU having "good-ish defenses"

Truly biting criticism there lol

I can see how after such devastating critique that "they could do a lot worse" would seem like effusive praise, but its not.

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151. "the problem is I'm just breaking balls and you're taking it seriously"
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my intentions were to start a convo about a newsworthy item (hoke as DC) and not rehash nonsense about dick rod. I've heard the conspiracy stores 1000x already. honestly, i don't care about him. it was just a jab.


>I referred to Schiano as "an ok hire" and "a competant coach"
>and that I expected a few years of OSU having "good-ish
>defenses"

actually, offhand I didn't even remember the specifics of the conversation but having just searched for the thread you co-signed bshelly's assessment of it being an 'awful hire'.

now, with all of that out the way...

as far as Oregon being able to 'do worse' than Hoke...

who would be worse than a failed head coach with zero DC experience? we all know that Hoke was essentially clueless and without any perceivable responsibility on the sideline ("CEO") and wasn't known as any sort of master tactician.

  

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146. "never had a problem with rich rod..."
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i was annoyed that he'd leave his alma mater for michigan of all places but thats about it.

hoke is a dickhead tho.

>But why would anyone ride for Hoke? Lol
>
>No one thinks he shouldnt have been fired, and no one went out
>of their way to shit on him as a human being. I actually was
>on record here before they hired him about what a terrible
>idea it was.
>
>I hope it works out, but I also dont really care.
>
>Rich Rod on the other hand, seems like a chill dude and is
>probably the most important innovator in my lifetime. He was
>also hung out to dry by the university and had a number of
>people at UM go out of their way to shit on him as a human
>being, while he never wavered from the high road.
>
>So yeah I like him and his system.

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160. "really would have liked to close the deal with Nolan, but w/e"
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Hoke is as far as coaching circles are concerned a good defensive mind (Mich's D improved under him, and he had decent defenses @ Ball St and SDSU). He's known as a very strong recruiter, and a good evaluator for DL positions specifically.

I'm mildly optimistic.

  

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162. "RE: really would have liked to close the deal with Nolan, but w/e"
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> (Mich's D improved under him,

that was Mattison's D

he has shown to be a good recruiter (selling the mich brand and the fantasy that was their revival) but not sure what if/any ties he has in the pacific NW

  

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164. "Can you be a CEO coordinator?"
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136. "SI.com Too Early Top 25"
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http://www.si.com/college-football/2016/01/18/way-too-early-top-25-2016-rankings

1. Oklahoma
2. Alabama
3. Clemson
4. Ohio State
5. Florida State
6. LSU
7. Michigan
8. Tennessee
9. Notre Dame
10. Baylor

11. Stanford
12. Ole Miss
13. Houston
14. Iowa
15. TCU
16. USC
17. Michigan State
18. Oklahoma State
19. Louisville
20. UNC
21. Oregon
22. Georgia
23. Miami-FL
24. Washington
25. Washington State

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137. "Miami might be a lot better tham #23 at the end"
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138. "There's a lot expected of you all"
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>8. Tennessee



>23. Miami-FL

glad to see Miami on here. Kinda surprised Florida was not in the 20s, but whatever

  

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139. "I was really surprised to hear of Will Grier transferring"
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florida looked helpless without him.

maybe he just needed a change of scenery but i thought hed sit out the year and come back.

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158. "there wont be any room for him by the time he'd return midseason"
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140. "rightly."
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QB Josh Dobbs*
RB Jalen Hurd*
WR Josh Malone*
WR Josh Smith*
WR Jauan Jennings
TE Ethan Wolf*
LT Drew Richmond
LG Jashon Robertson*
C Coleman Thomas*
RG Dylan Wiesman*
RT Brett Kendrick*

DE Derek Barnett*
DT Kahlil McKenzie
DT Kendal Vickers*
DE Cory Vereen*
LB Jalen Reeves-Maybin*
LB Darrin Kirkland Jr.*
CB Cam Sutton*
CB Justin Martin*
CB Malik Foreman*
S Evan Berry
S Todd Kelly Jr.

P Trevor Daniel*
K Aaron Medley*
PR Cam Sutton*
KR Evan Berry*

*returning starter

that's 17 returning starters, not including two All-Americans on special teams. Dobbs, Hurd, Barnett, Sutton, Reeves-Maybin, Kirkland Jr., Berry (returner) and Daniel are legit All-SEC players. depth is much better than past seasons, when Butch *had* to play freshmen. SEC East is still wack.

SEC Championship (Game) or bust.

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141. "Evan...Berry?"
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142. "you didn't find out this year? him and his twin brother"
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were offered scholarships by Kiffin back when they were 14. Elliott ripped up his knee last season but Evan was the SEC Special Teams POY and first-team All-American as a kick returner -- he housed three returns and had the highest KO average in school history.

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143. "I had no idea. A 38+ yard average?? Lol"
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Unless youre putting every kick in the end zone, might as well just kick out of bounds lol

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147. "Still hesitant on Dobbs...."
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The passing game was sub-par in '15, albeit the running game was elite. To take it to the next level, the WRs have to be more involved.

  

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156. "definitely"
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not sure how to distribute the blame (has any receiver got better under Azzanni? Marquez North being a prime example), but Dobbs at least needs to improve his accuracy.

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163. "UF needs to be on that list, they are good...just watch."
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