7. "The only one I can say is Chad Ford. He talked about him." In response to Reply # 1
But thats why Mudiay looked so blown through the whole draft process. They acted like they couldn't find any video or reports like that shit is the Puffy kettlebell fight.
22. "jah's gotta beat the narrative to get ROY too" In response to Reply # 3
I didn't realize that until I read that pelton article I tweeted. He cysed everybody else in summer league, but Jah was three sentences about defense and FTs and only one about, oh yeah, he looked completely unstoppable in the paint. Dudes are so pressed to be right that they're gonna try to chile grape everything he does for a few years and cyse everyone else.
---- bshelly
"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God
13. "if he worked on his shot he'd be fine for the triangle" In response to Reply # 8
and he's big so he'd fit nicely in either guard position provided he was willing to commit to it and understand moving without the ball.
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
20. "Yep even watching them in summer league" In response to Reply # 17
theyre going away from the triangle a lot more. Commentators have talked about how that seems to be on of the focus points this year. Good ball movement -sans triangle
--- "though time has passed, im still the future" (c) black thought
9. "RE: Sigh, I Gotta Hope Zingis Turns Out Better" In response to Reply # 5
Dat Zingis looks like a smart pick....He gotta grow into his frame but the thing that stands out is he ain't soft. That dude seems to get off just as much playing defense as he does shooting the ball....
GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....
14. "RE: I'm Hoping You're Right" In response to Reply # 10 Wed Jul-15-15 09:02 AM by murph71
>And granted, it's only summer league on year 1 > >But to miss on a possible franchise level PG will really >sting, especially if Zingis doesn't pan out. > >And from what I hear, Mudiay understood how to run the >triangle (just has to work on his shot)
Your problem is not going to be Dat Zingis--I think the kid will be good....It's Feel, who, while I have a lot of respect for given that Bulls connect, insists on Triangle Or Bust. If he picked Dat Zingis because he thought he was the best player available I can respect that....But if he passed on Mudiay because he didn't fit some antiquated system Feel needs to be sent back to his ranch with a foot up his ass....
GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....
15. "yeah, i got an issue with system or bust coaches" In response to Reply # 14
The better coaches create a system that best fits the talent they have.I agree with not throwing away your system for JR smith, but some guys need to be kept (or gon after) and adjust your system to them.
The most annoying thing for me is that Jax is not the coach and i'm not convinced that Fisher would be running the triangle if he was working somewhere else. Makes Fish look like an expensive puppet.
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
12. "alot of scouts and gms pre and post draft were saying the 2 guys with th..." In response to Reply # 5
highest ceiling were Kristaps and Mudiay.
They also were anonymous though.
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
28. "i was minding my business. you fukked up. now i'm pressed" In response to Reply # 27 Wed Jul-15-15 11:28 AM by Basaglia
you know how i do, dogg, so nothing you say now matters.
i wasn't thinking about that kid.
i wasn't even tripping when you threw shots at tyus when all i did was say i ain't interesting in no DR stock. i let that go, because no one thinks tyus gon be better than him. but, you had to act stupid and take it furthur with laker fans.
you gon hate kobe by the time this season over. watch. kobe ain't standing for mediocrity.
32. "damn niggas flipped on russell THIS quick?" In response to Reply # 0
lol i watched a couple of mudiay china clips before the draft, nigga was mainly running fast and styling on chinese bols i thought the comparison to a bigger more athletic rondo with the potential to learn how to shoot == nigga might be good but russell was supposed to be the next magic johnson with unbelievable court vision and handles like a week ago lol, give young bol some time
the thing that i love is his sense of when to drive and when not. and he can afford to be the aggressor because he's physically durable. his shot, of course, needs work, but his catch-and-shoot 3 looks pretty decent. i don't see the blow-by speed; i do, however, see a ton of free throw shooting via contact in the paint. he likes the step-back, and i'm always afraid that won't come around. he has excellent vision, but his passing isn't always pretty. the ball gets to where it needs to be and when during summer league, but i suspect he'll need to reduce some of his motion to make the same passes once the season starts.
i have no idea what comes of ty lawson's recent issues--my personal hope is that the franchise supports him by getting him some help--but should they keep both of them, i do believe they could play together in small lineups. i find it really intriguing, actually.
62. "RE: why is he playing 7 min a game?" In response to Reply # 60
They realized that Jameer and Murray were better fits for their offense. It gives them guys they can run off Jokic and his passing. With Mudiay in the lineup (still not calling him a bust) the ball sticks to him more and less is facilitated by Jokic. Also both those guys are better shooters than Mudiay which opens things up for their offense.
Mudiays trade value is basically gone though--so I wonder what happens. I wonder if theyd do a Okafor for Mudiay trade lol. Probably not unless Philly threw in other stuff.
I remember Mudiay was on the 6ers radar and he may not be a bad consolation if they cannot get the draft pick to get one of the point gods in this draft
--- "though time has passed, im still the future" (c) black thought
67. "wait so are you saying Mudiay has more value than Okafor?" In response to Reply # 62
>They realized that Jameer and Murray were better fits for >their offense. It gives them guys they can run off Jokic and >his passing. With Mudiay in the lineup (still not calling him >a bust) the ball sticks to him more and less is facilitated by >Jokic. Also both those guys are better shooters than Mudiay >which opens things up for their offense. > > >Mudiays trade value is basically gone though--so I wonder what >happens. I wonder if theyd do a Okafor for Mudiay trade lol. >Probably not unless Philly threw in other stuff.
72. "I mean yeh lol, no question " In response to Reply # 66
Let us get Fultz or Ball in the draft and then shit will really get popping because either of those two pair really well alongside DLo and our vision for the team.
--------------------------------- <--The drought is over
"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS
"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left." -Kobe speaking to investigators
83. "I just wanted to proclaim my W. not alot of TOSU W's to be had" In response to Reply # 72 Mon Mar-27-17 04:47 PM by guru0509
esp when talking about nba success
>Let us get Fultz or Ball in the draft and then shit will >really get popping because either of those two pair really >well alongside DLo and our vision for the team.
& Lonzo Ball is mids
no ty
------------------- I wanna go to where the martyrs went the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...
85. "Lonzo would unlock DLo's off-ball potential" In response to Reply # 83
DLo is by far our smartest player off the ball and he always puts himself into good spots...the problem is the squad doesn't have many other good passers (Ingram is very good but rarely initiates when DLo is also in the game, Randle is very good in a narrow context such as DHO's or on the break) so that movement is usually wasted. Him and Lonzo playing off one another in our flow system would be so complimentary.
--------------------------------- <--The drought is over
"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS
"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left." -Kobe speaking to investigators
88. "Absolutely, me too" In response to Reply # 86
Their balance of scoring and distributing would be so dope. Add in Ingram's continuing development in those regards and we'd have a dynamic 1-3 combination.
--------------------------------- <--The drought is over
"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS
"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left." -Kobe speaking to investigators
70. "We say stuff like this alot " In response to Reply # 64
But who are best examples of guys who maybe were considered busts then panned out as stars? Part of it could be because people in the league unfailry give up on them and never give them another fair shot...but im trying to think of some examples.
The top example is always Billups. Who else?
--- "though time has passed, im still the future" (c) black thought
76. "right if you go front starting to not even in the rotation in your 2nd....." In response to Reply # 70 Mon Mar-27-17 04:03 PM by ThaTruth
year its usually not a good look. But I guess there are people still holding a candle for Thomas Robinson.
>But who are best examples of guys who maybe were considered >busts then panned out as stars? Part of it could be because >people in the league unfailry give up on them and never give >them another fair shot...but im trying to think of some >examples. > > >The top example is always Billups. Who else?
82. "Thought of another example: deandre jordan" In response to Reply # 76
Deandre is similar in that early career he was deemed a bust after a couple mediocre seasons, difference is deandre wasn't a lottery pick. Same with whiteside
--- "though time has passed, im still the future" (c) black thought
Frank Longo Member since Nov 18th 2003 86670 posts
Mon Mar-27-17 04:31 PM
80. "People had sold on Otto." In response to Reply # 70
We're seeing Dion Waiters go from laughing-stock to starter on a good team.
I'm not saying Mudiay will be a star. I'm saying that some of these high draft picks take longer than others. Especially now that more and more of them are 18/19 when they enter.
71. "He absolutely needs a change of scenery " In response to Reply # 64
The problem that's going to follow him around, until/if he improves it, is his perimeter shooting....it's tough to give a player big minutes in today's game if they cannot space the floor effectively, unless they have ++ defensive impact. As it stands, he has to have the ball in his hands to make a contribution.
--------------------------------- <--The drought is over
"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS
"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left." -Kobe speaking to investigators
79. "lol, y'all mf's kill me with this shit, like if you're not sitting up..." In response to Reply # 77
every night with 5 tvs on league pass watching every single minute of every single game you can't have an opinion on a player.
I've NEVER watched a Mudiay game from start to finish and I don't need to. I've actually watched parts of more Denver games in the past few months than I have in years because of Jokic and Mudiay has been mostly on the bench.
Mudiay is shooting 36% for his career you don't need to watch every game to figure out he can't shoot. His assist to turnover rate is terrible for a point guard.
You: I've NEVER watched a Mudiay game from start to finish and I don't need to. I've actually watched parts of more Denver games in the past few months than I have in years because of Jokic and Mudiay has been mostly on the bench.
You have never watched a game of his from start to finish. And you don't think there's a need to. And you have watched a lot parts of Denver games recently, but he hasn't played.
-DJ R-Tistic- Member since Nov 06th 2008 51986 posts
Thu Jan-18-18 05:17 PM
98. "On one hand, the Lakers won because DLo ended up being way, way" In response to Reply # 0
better....even though everyone that first year felt we messed up by missing out on Mudiay.
But, then, obviously we lost since we don't have DLo. Unless you wanna say we got Kuzma and Lopez for him, and them together >>>>>>>>> Mudiay as well. Hell, them separate are better. Either way, I'm not mad at our pick. AND DLo > Okafor...so yeah.
>But, then, obviously we lost since we don't have DLo. Unless >you wanna say we got Kuzma and Lopez for him, and them >together >>>>>>>>> Mudiay as well. Hell, them separate are >better. Either way, I'm not mad at our pick. AND DLo > >Okafor...so yeah.
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