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TheRealBillyOcean
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"Did David Blatt request his LinkedIn password reminder or does he stay?"


          

I didn't watch the Cavs much all year. Just these last 2 series.

So I'm not sure if he's a good coach or not.

Not sure if he was ever given a shot to be a good coach or show we can do. I'm sure there are others who are more fit to explain his strengths and weaknesses (as well as others who will pretend to be fit to explain his strenghts and weaknesses).

So what's the consensus?

Is he a bad fit?

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I think it only depends on if Lebron and MOST of the players LIKE him.
Jun 17th 2015
1
Unequivocally he should stay, but it's Bron's decision in the end
Jun 17th 2015
2
Simple, you don't how much of the Cavs success was him or Bron.
Jun 17th 2015
5
      So you buy this fan fiction?
Jun 17th 2015
6
           LOL
Jun 17th 2015
9
           ***scroll up to Original Post to where I stated I don't know***
Jun 17th 2015
14
                Dude, consider the dynamics and the source
Jun 17th 2015
18
                     Seems like you're the one putting too much thought into this.
Jun 17th 2015
22
                          what is the bottom line of my first reply: it's lebron's decision
Jun 18th 2015
28
He stays. This season bought him another year
Jun 17th 2015
3
Sheridan tweeted that his job was on the line last night
Jun 17th 2015
4
If Bron axes him then I am done fucking with Bron, would be unfair
Jun 17th 2015
7
Cal might be ready to come back to the show
Jun 17th 2015
11
Cool, spend $10M a year on a guy with zero pro success
Jun 17th 2015
20
No.
Jun 17th 2015
21
agreed. LeBron needs to let the people around him do the work
Jun 18th 2015
31
this seems silly....I fuck with Bron, for real...
Jun 17th 2015
10
That's what I am saying, he can't hold Blatt to a different standard
Jun 17th 2015
12
Listened to NBA Lockdown, both Izzy and Jorge are convinced..
Jun 17th 2015
16
Post Jack: Does anyone have a LinkdIn success story?
Jun 17th 2015
8
It's just Facebook with more random friend requests and less side boob
Jun 17th 2015
13
      & constant harassment from recruiters...nm
Jun 17th 2015
15
           Yes. Some don't even care what field you're in.
Jun 17th 2015
17
                hilarious
Jun 17th 2015
19
LeBron been fired his ass lmao.
Jun 17th 2015
23
I actually think it's up to Blatt.
Jun 17th 2015
24
2 good points.
Jun 17th 2015
25
I actually agree. I hope he comes back though.
Jun 17th 2015
26
Do you think Blatt got full support of the front office behind him?
Jun 17th 2015
27
That's clear? Look at how they played all playoffs.
Jun 18th 2015
29
Oh now I see you snagged this from Windhorst.
Jun 18th 2015
47
ha.
Jun 18th 2015
48
you don't think the latter is related to the former?
Jun 19th 2015
51
double-post
Jun 18th 2015
lol
Jun 18th 2015
30
Bye, Felicia. Marc Stein puts Bron on blast for Finals behavior
Jun 18th 2015
32
I thought many of the same things, it's one thing to do these things
Jun 18th 2015
33
Lol...I don't know why dudes pretend their wasn't tension.
Jun 18th 2015
34
Social media and the 24/7 sports news cycle are the big difference
Jun 18th 2015
35
I dont think anyone can fake that, I mean why is this even a question?
Jun 18th 2015
38
Doug Collins probably deserved all that and more. he's a trash coach.
Jun 18th 2015
39
      lol, i mean i have never been a fan but all this seems harsh
Jun 19th 2015
50
damn
Jun 18th 2015
36
Stein's been carrying water for Blatt since he coached Macabee though...
Jun 18th 2015
37
Mishpacha
Jun 18th 2015
41
      We family, we better be (c) Volume 10
Jun 18th 2015
42
ether. bron treat ol boy like the waiter. cavs should just not have a co...
Jun 18th 2015
40
      Now THAT I could go for, a player-coach in 2015? Yes please lol
Jun 18th 2015
43
      just make him player/coach/GM/equipment manager/trainer
Jun 18th 2015
46
      lol yup I'd love to see that
Jun 18th 2015
44
      The amount of frying he gets if he fails would be epic.
Jun 19th 2015
52
           *starts assembling the deep fryer*
Jan 22nd 2016
56
Let's just imagine if this happened...
Jun 18th 2015
45
OE just masturbated to your post.
Jun 19th 2015
49
O_E Agendageddon
Jun 19th 2015
53
I guess he needs to get on that.
Jan 22nd 2016
54
seriously, do you spend your whole day bookmarking posts?
Jan 22nd 2016
55
      There's a wonderful feature called the search function...
Jan 22nd 2016
57
      the search feature on OKP is anything BUT wonderful
Jan 22nd 2016
59
      I think it's easy to use? What's "not wonderful" about it....?
Jan 23rd 2016
61
      not me, you just reek of trying too hard.
Jan 22nd 2016
60
           Thanks for your opinion.
Jan 23rd 2016
62
      Dumbest part about OKS
Jan 22nd 2016
58

PROMO
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1. "I think it only depends on if Lebron and MOST of the players LIKE him."
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because like you said, it's hard to TELL if he's a good coach, but i think w/ the horses he had, you can at least say he's not a BAD coach.

i know Lebron did most of the heavy lifting, but i feel like if he was outright bad no about of Lebron arm curls could have brought the team this far.

  

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2. "Unequivocally he should stay, but it's Bron's decision in the end"
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Wed Jun-17-15 04:15 PM by ConcreteCharlie

  

          

For the people wondering if he is a good coach or not, what more do you need to see? He came into a new league and a new level of play with an entirely new roster and turned them into the best team in the league in the second half. Think that was all personnel? He got dealt blow after blow during the playoffs, had to scheme differently and had to use unfamiliar guys in unfamiliar roles and still got to within two wins of the finals. The guy has won championships in at least three different pro leagues. If he wasn't coaching in the Finals for Cleveland, he'd have been doing it for Golden State as an assistant. Where is the incomplete evaluation here?

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5. "Simple, you don't how much of the Cavs success was him or Bron."
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Because if the team doesn't listen to him and he's just there to be there, than it's not him.

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6. "So you buy this fan fiction?"
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Dude cmon you read the basketball media enough to know that it's a shark-jump away from Soap Opera Digest.

Surely LeBron did all things and the staff was just there because the millions of dollars the Cavs paid them was cost-effective versus using mannequins.

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9. "LOL"
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TheRealBillyOcean
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14. "***scroll up to Original Post to where I stated I don't know***"
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I do know there were stories all season long of the team not respecting or listening to him.

I do know there were stories of them leaning on Bron and Lue.

I don't know if all of that stuff is true or not.

I do know, you don't know either.

I do know, you will continue to pretend as if you know.

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18. "Dude, consider the dynamics and the source"
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If a head coach were that much of a sitting duck it would have bit them and bit them more as time went on.

Furthermore, those same stories were often driving at some rift between LeBron and Love, which was largely false and did not affect Love's apparent decision to return next year.

Were the Cavs well-coached? Was Blatt their head coach?

Don't overthink this.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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22. "Seems like you're the one putting too much thought into this."
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It could be the Cavs and/or Lebron doesn't fuck with Blatt. And they would prefer another coach.

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28. "what is the bottom line of my first reply: it's lebron's decision"
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i am hoping he makes the right one.

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3. "He stays. This season bought him another year"
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To fire him, I imagine there'd have to be an "Oh my God, this guy is perfect fit!" candidate out there. To my knowledge, there isn't.

Only way things change is if there's a player uprising to promote Lue.

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4. "Sheridan tweeted that his job was on the line last night"
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which seems insane to me. what could he have done with that lineup? and what did you need to see from him last night that 100 games wouldn't have answered?

but as we saw last summer, Sheridan seems to know things about bron and/or cleveland.

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7. "If Bron axes him then I am done fucking with Bron, would be unfair"
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and unproductive, as there are no clear-cut upgrades out there to replace him.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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11. "Cal might be ready to come back to the show"
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20. "Cool, spend $10M a year on a guy with zero pro success"
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Best of luck with that. Then I will REALLY nail LeBronon with that steel chair, Jim Ross will be in the building for that one.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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21. "No."
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Well…at least I hope not.

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31. "agreed. LeBron needs to let the people around him do the work"
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they are assigned to do, so that he can flourish. they ALMOST did it with this team.

health and a potential upgrade of 2 positions (backup SF and G -- I'd keep Delly, but I'd rather he be option #3 instead of #2) is all they need to win this shit.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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10. "this seems silly....I fuck with Bron, for real..."
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but if he gets to play the "look at all our injuries card"...and I damn sure feel he can play it...then so can Blatt.

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12. "That's what I am saying, he can't hold Blatt to a different standard "
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than he holds himself to and than he holds the rest of the team, too.

And yes this run required serious coaching adjustments and yes Blatt made the right call more often than not.

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16. "Listened to NBA Lockdown, both Izzy and Jorge are convinced.."
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he's gone.

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8. "Post Jack: Does anyone have a LinkdIn success story?"
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I update mine fairly regularly and login at least once a week. That said, does anyone actually have any stories of benefiting from LinkdIn?

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13. "It's just Facebook with more random friend requests and less side boob"
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15. "& constant harassment from recruiters...nm"
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17. "Yes. Some don't even care what field you're in. "
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19. "hilarious"
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23. "LeBron been fired his ass lmao."
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24. "I actually think it's up to Blatt."
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It seems to be a situation where nobody is outright force him out. He went to the Finals as a 1st year head-coach, that by itself gives him relative immunity *unless* LeBron is convinced that he's gotta go.

But LeBron likes to quarterback the team and wouldn't necessarily want a controlling guy to come in, so I think he likes Blatt in his reserved role as sort of deferring to LeBron and allowing LeBron complete autonomy over the squad.

Problem is, it's clear Blatt has not been able to gain the respect of his players, even if he has gained the respected from a lot of observers and fans.

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25. "2 good points."
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-I'm not sure if he would want to come back. Seems like he has to deal with a lot of bullshit from the media. Even more than Spo had. Plus, he might want to put his own stamp on a team. This job might make him feel marginalized.

-the public probably does think he can coach. But I get the feeling some of the players still don't respect the dude.

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26. "I actually agree. I hope he comes back though."
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27. "Do you think Blatt got full support of the front office behind him?"
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I would say that Spoelstra did with the Heat. That could be one of the reasons why there was no real animosity between him and LeBron.

  

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29. "That's clear? Look at how they played all playoffs."
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Guys were running through walls, whether or not Blatt is responsible he certainly didn't prevent it from happening.

Blatt lets LeBron run the show on the floor the same way any other coach dos but they do have a well-defined system and they did make quite a few adjustments as the playoffs progressed.

I'm not really seeing this as "up to Blatt." I don't think there is any doubt he would like to return, but there is some doubt as to whether or not he will. I guess a major factor is what potential candidates emerge.

As you'd already guess, I don't think he should be Rick Carlisle'd, but if he does I am sure he will land on his feet, and the Cavs will, too.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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47. "Oh now I see you snagged this from Windhorst. "
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Of course now the Cavs brass is saying Blatt will be back but a front office's word is always good ... until it's not.

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48. "ha."
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51. "you don't think the latter is related to the former?"
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>so I think he
>likes Blatt in his reserved role as sort of deferring to
>LeBron and allowing LeBron complete autonomy over the squad.
>
>Problem is, it's clear Blatt has not been able to gain the
>respect of his players, even if he has gained the respected
>from a lot of observers and fans.

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"double-post"
Thu Jun-18-15 03:50 AM by okayplayery

          

double-post

  

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30. "lol"
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Blatt has at least one of Kyrie or Love, it's Cleveland's rings right now.

He turned Mozgov into a legit starting center and Delly into a great backup.

If he wants it, it's his job.

  

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32. "Bye, Felicia. Marc Stein puts Bron on blast for Finals behavior"
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http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/3896/lebrons-handling-of-blatt-unbecoming

I have a question for LeBron James that I really hope he'll field someday.

A question that can be asked a variety of ways.

What kind of coach do you want?

Who out there is a coach you'd actually like to play for?

Who could ‎the Cleveland Cavaliers hire that you'd give some meaningful backing?

I don't have the answers to any of those queries. Cavs assistant coach Ty Lue is my best guess.

I know this much, though: LeBron James is too brilliant as a basketball player, too truly great, to behave the way he did toward David Blatt during the NBA Finals.

We literally saw peak LeBron and the corresponding LeBron nadir over those six gripping games with Golden State. He ‎had staffers from the 67-win Warriors almost quaking at night in fear of the havoc he was wreaking, such was his genius in controlling tempo and carrying a skeleton of a roster to a 2-1 lead that actually made you think the Cavs could win it all with Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love and his beloved Anderson Varejao all sidelined.

And we likewise saw LeBron emasculate Blatt in ways that are simply unbecoming of a player of James' legend-in-the-making stature.

I saw it from close range in my role as sideline reporter through the Finals for ESPN Radio. LeBron essentially calling timeouts and making substitutions. LeBron openly barking at Blatt after decisions he didn't like. LeBron huddling frequently with Lue and so often looking at anyone other than Blatt.

There was LeBron, in one instance I witnessed from right behind the bench, shaking his head vociferously in protest after one play Blatt drew up in the third quarter of Game 5, amounting to the loudest nonverbal scolding you could imagine.

Which forced Blatt, in front of his whole team, to wipe the board clean and draw up something else.


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I understand LeBron had no input into Blatt’s hiring and had to roll with him in less-than-ideal circumstances. But it struck me as a rather unflattering look for an all-time great.

No matter how inept he might think the coach is.

How is any fellow Cavalier going to treat Blatt with something resembling reverence when LeBron treats him like a bench ornament in plain view?

How can LeBron publicly laud his own leadership, as he so often does, when setting that sort of tone?

My ESPN.com colleague Brian Windhorst, who ranks as the most credentialed LeBron-ologist there is after shadowing James since his teens, went on SVP & Russillo on Wednesday and posited that No. 23 actually wouldn't mind if the Euroleague import keeps coaching the Cavs because he "likes having Blatt to kick around."

I wouldn’t expect to hear anyone in Cleveland dispute it, either.

Because they can't.

Blatt, for the record, is by no means faultless here. It's up to the coach, in the Big Boy NBA, to earn buy-in from the players. For all the legitimate arguments that the job he wound up with is not the one he signed up for, given that LeBron came home to Ohio after Dan Gilbert handpicked the 55-year-old Boston native over Alvin Gentry, Blatt has to absorb a slice of the responsibility if that hasn't happened. It's on him to convince his players he's up to the task.

It was on Blatt, furthermore, to make better use of Timofey Mozgov -- offensively and defensively -- after his bust-outs in Games 2 and 4. It was likewise on Blatt to find better schemes to disrupt Andre Iguodala in the series of his life as opposed to leaving him open game after game and asking Mozgov to chase after him. You also expected him to coax more out of J.R. Smith after Blatt proved more than once while coaching abroad that he had a knack for reaching enigmatic players.

The disconnect with LeBron is no alibi for any of that.

But I repeat:

LeBron's otherworldly performance in this series, on top of everything he's done for Northeast Ohio just by returning to the area and revitalizing it beyond words, doesn't make any of this stuff palatable.


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The charade can't continue. This isn’t about whether Blatt deserves to be brought back for a second season, but he obviously does after going so far in the playoffs -- and with Cleveland improving its defense so drastically along the way in the postseason -- in spite of all the injuries.

This is purely and simply about LeBron, if he can't bring himself to back Blatt with more gusto going forward, going right to Gilbert and telling him to hire Jeff Van Gundy, Tom Thibodeau or the most likely suspect, Lue.

Someone he's prepared to support.

Support like Tim Duncan was providing Gregg Popovich long before he was POP!

Or the kind of support that Iguodala, your newly minted Finals MVP, reluctantly but ultimately submitted when a rookie coach named Steve Kerr, with far less of a coaching resume than Blatt, showed up in Oakland and told Iggy he needed him to come off the bench for the first time in his life to make Harrison Barnes -- and, by extension, Golden State as a whole -- function more effectively.

The otherworldly way LeBron played in these Finals, shouldering a bigger load than any superstar we've seen on the championship stage and slowing the mighty Dubs like no one else could with his brain as much as his brawn, left little doubt that he's one of the three-to-five greatest individual forces this game has ever witnessed.

Yet when folks question why I would dare suggest that Duncan deserves consideration in the same conversation, here's my answer: Timmy ticks every single box when it comes to serving as the ultimate tentpole upon which to hoist a franchise.

Eight years removed from the Finals in which Duncan's Spurs swept aside young James and a different set of overmatched Cavs -- eight years after Duncan told the then-22-year-old James that he would soon own this league -- I found myself coming back to the same thought.

He's too damn good to behave this way.

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33. "I thought many of the same things, it's one thing to do these things"
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it's another to make them known.

You're a star player and a head coach, that means you're in the foxhole together. LeBron did not behave that way.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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34. "Lol...I don't know why dudes pretend their wasn't tension."
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Oh, and MJ did a lot of the same things to Doug. So before MJ stans come in.

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35. "Social media and the 24/7 sports news cycle are the big difference"
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It's interesting though, because I wouldn't think ESPN would give LeBron this potential coach killer type role with this coverage. With the grief LeBron got for The Decision, I'd think ESPN would try to give LeBron mostly positive coverage and avoid the negativity with him at all costs. Interesting to see how this all plays out, although he already publically sonned him during the playoffs when he admitted publically he called his own play with that game winner in Chicago. I guess times are different where you can show up your head coach like that.

  

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38. "I dont think anyone can fake that, I mean why is this even a question?"
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The tension, and nothing else.

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39. "Doug Collins probably deserved all that and more. he's a trash coach."
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he was with the bulls , the pistons and everywhere else after that.

dude sucks in the booth too and i hope his son fails miserably at northwestern.

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50. "lol, i mean i have never been a fan but all this seems harsh"
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but yeah i remember when philly hired him, i was extremely pissed.

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36. "damn"
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37. "Stein's been carrying water for Blatt since he coached Macabee though..."
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So I'm going to take his assessment with a few grains of salt.

It's also interesting that he decries LeBron's behavior because it may undermine any "reverence" that other players have for Blatt, as if being an effective coach requites being revered by the players.

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41. "Mishpacha"
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lol, i respect it.

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42. "We family, we better be (c) Volume 10"
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40. "ether. bron treat ol boy like the waiter. cavs should just not have a co..."
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43. "Now THAT I could go for, a player-coach in 2015? Yes please lol"
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Fanciful though

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46. "just make him player/coach/GM/equipment manager/trainer"
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no please cops acceptable.

  

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44. "lol yup I'd love to see that "
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52. "The amount of frying he gets if he fails would be epic."
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too many dimensions.
too many levels.

(goddammit I wish it weren't my team dealing with this shit sometimes)

  

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56. "*starts assembling the deep fryer*"
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45. "Let's just imagine if this happened..."
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They fire Blatt.

They hire Mark Jackson.

They face the Warriors in the Finals again next season...

And win.

  

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49. "OE just masturbated to your post."
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53. "O_E Agendageddon"
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54. "I guess he needs to get on that."
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55. "seriously, do you spend your whole day bookmarking posts?"
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you don't even have anything clever to say when upping. plus the boards aren't even popular enough anymore for post uppage to be a strong move. this is getting sad man.

  

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57. "There's a wonderful feature called the search function..."
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>you don't even have anything clever to say when upping. plus
>the boards aren't even popular enough anymore for post uppage
>to be a strong move. this is getting sad man.

Well I must say that I am taken aback because everything I do on this board is to impress you.

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59. "the search feature on OKP is anything BUT wonderful"
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61. "I think it's easy to use? What's "not wonderful" about it....? "
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60. "not me, you just reek of trying too hard."
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>Well I must say that I am taken aback because everything I do
>on this board is to impress you.
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62. "Thanks for your opinion."
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58. "Dumbest part about OKS"
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It can be clever.

But when you just up every post with blatts name in the title, it's just dumb

  

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