OKS is a special place when it comes to LeBron. He's polarizing, for sure, but you have people here whose sole purpose for even logging onto OKP is to lather in anti-Kang juice and pow-wow w/ their fellow detractors.

Last night, Lebron accomplished something that has only been accomplished once before in NBA Finals history: 35+ points, 15+ rebounds, 10+ assist totals. James Worthy was the only other guy to do that, and LeBron matriculates these kind of numbers and people are just like 'yea, Bron gonna Bron, that's what he does." It's just that "what he does" is something we've never seen, willing a team w/ undrafted players and throwaway Knicks role players into a competitive, "anybody's series" Finals against a historic giant of a team w/ unfathomable depth.

But Lebron creates history every other night at the moment, he's been averaging virtually a triple double in the last 6 games, and there's nothing that he isn't doing on the court such that he has become the Frankenstein of all time Greats. Gene splice a little Magic; inherit a few Julius Erving fast-twitch; drop in a little Larry Legend; little Elgin Baylor; dash of MJ; and construct a physique as powerful and durable as Karl Malone w/ the alacrity and athleticism of Kobe Bryant.

Yet you're still mad and stomping your feet like a child at the mention of Bron's Greatness?
For those w/ the bizarre grievances, how do you continually justify not affording requisite respect to the greatest player of this generation, century, and a sure-fire top 5 player of all-time (already)?

"BUT BRON ISN'T EFFICIENT! 38 shots hahahaha!." < says the same people who used to critique him for passing too much and not going full Mamba with FGA's.

Oh how things & Kangs done changed.

#JustFacts:

~Overcome incredible personal adversity (no father, mom arguably more immature than he is)
~married and remained loyal to his H.S. sweetheart; committed and dedicated family man that puts MJ & Kobe's infidelity failures to shame, and speaks to the pristine integrity of Bron's personal ethics and values
~gets criminally hated on more unjustly than any other superstar in NBA history for leaving Cleveland and achieving historic accomplishments in Miami; then Returns to the Kangdom and becomes the more beloved than he would have ever been if he never left.

So, is it because he defecates on your favorite player/team? That's understandable. But if you have no particular skin in the game and claim to be a basketball fan, how do you continually shit your pants and sit in it all day as you look at your television screen like Smiegel and deny the purity of Lebron James' game?

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the anti-LeBron sentiment is really anti-LeBron siceage.

We can't even enjoy his greatness without it being thrown down our throats. Like, LeBron can't be one of the all-time greats. He's gotta be BETTER THAN JORDAN. BETTER THAN BIRD. BETTER THAN XYZ...

He can't be simply a once-in-a-lifetime-talent, he's gotta be GOAT.

He's the first real superstar of the social media/Internet/24/7 news cycle era, he actually delivered on his pre-NBA hype, and with that comes the endless marketing/hype/etc. people are gonna bristle against that, no matter how great someone is.

I think it actually detracts from what really makes him special, and why he is writing his own paradigm. A Post-LeBron NBA is going to be an interesting place to see, when he's the measuring stick.

I think it boils down to: "We know he's great, we see he's great. We don't need to be reminded of it... yet"

Most supporters just ask that you acknowledge how transcendent and one-of-a-kind he is. Yet I've never heard you argue that the leader of your franchise is a top 5 player. Even here you imply that Bird was better, which is only getting more and more ridiculous with each passing game.

>I think it actually detracts from what really makes him
>special, and why he is writing his own paradigm. A Post-LeBron
>NBA is going to be an interesting place to see, when he's the
>measuring stick.

It'll be similar to the post-Jordan hangover: Everybody waiting on the "next Lebron" - and then they keep waiting as it never happens.

>I think it boils down to: "We know he's great, we see he's
>great. We don't need to be reminded of it... yet"

You're being reminded of it every time he steps on the court and you begrudgingly give him his due, refer to him as "KLANG" - and cite "great ball movement and help defense!" as the primary reason why your team even has a chance in this series.


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No player in history has been cysed more than Mike. Niggas be saying stupid shit like mike never lost in his prime, re-defining "prime" to mean "seasons in which Mike won chips".

and also had the physical gifts that every single guy put up against him has had?

comparing Lebron to Mike is borderline offensive in all truth

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>and also had the physical gifts that every single guy put up
>against him has had?
>
>comparing Lebron to Mike is borderline offensive in all truth

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He shoots the 3 better than Jordan and Kobe - two guys who had elite jump-shots.

Lebron's jumper has carried him throughout his whole career. It's not a great playoff campaign for Lebron w/ his jumper right now - obviously. But he's a proven jump-shooter, period. Not as great at the medium game and on the free-throw line as smaller 2-guards, but for a point-power-forward, he shoots the ball about as well as you could ask from a man of his size who is constantly the set-up guy/creator who takes difficult shots and thus rarely gets wide open looks off the catch-and-shoot.

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Had a finals where these were the stats:

41/8.5/6.3

Game 1 = 31/7/5 on 50% FG
Game 2 = 42/12/9 on 50% FG
Game 3 = 44/9/6 on 44% FG
Game 4 = 55/8/4 on 56% FG
Game 5 = 41/7/7 on 55% FG
Game 6 = 33/8/7 on 50% FG

*And he was 29 the season he did it.

People hate on this guy and try to tear him down at every turn. Yet those numbers are NUTS. He did this against a 62 win team (best record in the league) which had the league MVP on it.

Nope, he played against a watered down league. Nope, he had no real peers to compete against.

So you may as well enjoy Bron while you can and stop trying to convert the ones who won't convert. The guy uptop warrants criticism and so does your guy. Neither is perfect. There are legit gripes about Bron's legacy as there are about Jorns. If the body of work is uber grand though, those gripes turn to white noise when it's all over with. But Bron is building his case and when the smoke clears, if he deserves it, he'll get it.

All he gotta do is keep building. I'd advise you to stop running around yelling "DO YOU SEE HOW GREAT HE IS? STOP HATING AND ENJOY THIS!!!" Imagine being at a sports bar watching a game and some random weirdo kept running up to you every 5 seconds yelling that when some guy he likes hits a bucket. lol

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>So you may as well enjoy Bron while you can and stop trying to
>convert the ones who won't convert. The guy uptop warrants
>criticism and so does your guy. Neither is perfect. There
>are legit gripes about Bron's legacy as there are about Jorns.
> If the body of work is uber grand though, those gripes turn
>to white noise when it's all over with. But Bron is building
>his case and when the smoke clears, if he deserves it, he'll
>get it.
>
>All he gotta do is keep building.

LeBron (IMO) will likely retire with less than 6, maybe less than 5

but he's gonna leave so much shit in the record books that NO ONE is gonna catch up to it in our lifetimes.

and the story around the basketball is gonna be ridiculous.

All he has to do is keep building. he's already in the books, but when it's all said and done he's gonna come out forever talked about.

I think anyone watching that knows this, so all of the extra shit... is just that

>Had a finals where these were the stats:
>
>41/8.5/6.3

Against a Phoenix team that played absolutely no defense - Dan Mahjerle and Danny Ainge were terrible defenders lol

Jordan never had to face an elite wing defender during his championship run - the likes of a Durant/Kawhi/Paul George/Jimmy Butler/Luol Deng/Artest

He had f'ing Hornacek and Byron Russell trying to guard him in the 97 and 98 finals lol

Notice the one time he did go up against a great defensive player in the finals, Gary Payton, he had his least impressive finals - had only *ONE* 30 pt game that entire series and I think he was like 5-19 in the close out gm 6

Just saying
>
>Game 1 = 31/7/5 on 50% FG
>Game 2 = 42/12/9 on 50% FG
>Game 3 = 44/9/6 on 44% FG
>Game 4 = 55/8/4 on 56% FG
>Game 5 = 41/7/7 on 55% FG
>Game 6 = 33/8/7 on 50% FG
>
>*And he was 29 the season he did it.
>
>People hate on this guy and try to tear him down at every
>turn. Yet those numbers are NUTS. He did this against a 62
>win team (best record in the league) which had the league MVP
>on it.
>
>Nope, he played against a watered down league. Nope, he had
>no real peers to compete against.
>
>So you may as well enjoy Bron while you can and stop trying to
>convert the ones who won't convert. The guy uptop warrants
>criticism and so does your guy. Neither is perfect. There
>are legit gripes about Bron's legacy as there are about Jorns.
> If the body of work is uber grand though, those gripes turn
>to white noise when it's all over with. But Bron is building
>his case and when the smoke clears, if he deserves it, he'll
>get it.
>
>All he gotta do is keep building. I'd advise you to stop
>running around yelling "DO YOU SEE HOW GREAT HE IS? STOP
>HATING AND ENJOY THIS!!!" Imagine being at a sports bar
>watching a game and some random weirdo kept running up to you
>every 5 seconds yelling that when some guy he likes hits a
>bucket. lol

grassrootsphilosopher

>>Had a finals where these were the stats:
>>
>>41/8.5/6.3
>
>Against a Phoenix team that played absolutely no defense - Dan
>Mahjerle and Danny Ainge were terrible defenders lol

How old were you when this series was played? That Phoenix team was about league avg defensively and when you can score like they did, you're not necessarily gonna need to keep a team to below 100 a game. But still, Thunder Dan made all defensive team twice in his career and one of them being THAT season so I wouldn't say he was terrible.

>Jordan never had to face an elite wing defender during his
>championship run - the likes of a Durant/Kawhi/Paul
>George/Jimmy Butler/Luol Deng/Artest

Guys Jordan had to face during his championship run that made all defensive teams: Nate McMillan (2x), Gary Payton (9x), John Stockon (5x), Dan Majerle (2x), John Starks (1x), Larry Nance (3x), Joe Dumars (5x).

LMAO Nance, Majerle and Starks made all defensive 2nd team THE SAME DAMN YEAR! Which happened to be this 92/93 season we're discussing. So he literally torched all of the elite defenders of that season. Not to mention Stacy Augmon in the 1st round who was a pretty good defender.

>He had f'ing Hornacek and Byron Russell trying to guard him in
>the 97 and 98 finals lol

LMAO...you mean the same Hornacek and Russell that helped the Jazz win 55 games the year Kobe won his first title? The two that that went 8-1 in the playoffs against the Shaq/Kobe lakers that harassed Nick Van Exel, Eddie Jones and Kobe into 41, 37 and 31% from the field in the 2nd round in 97 and 41, 23!, 36% from the field in the WCF in 98 respectively? Those two wack defenders?

People who guarded Kobe in his finals runs:
Reggie Miller/Jalen Rose
Eric Snow/Aaron Mckie
Kerry Kittles/Lucious Harris
Chauncey/Rip
Pierce/Ray Allen (2x)
Mickael Pietrus/Courtney Lee

Hardly a group of world beating defenders. All this to say, title runs are a mixed bag.

>Notice the one time he did go up against a great defensive
>player in the finals, Gary Payton, he had his least impressive
>finals - had only *ONE* 30 pt game that entire series and I
>think he was like 5-19 in the close out gm 6
>
>Just saying

Well Gary Payton (DPOY) and Nate Mcmillan were both all defensive team on a 67-15 squad and Mike was like 32 (same age D-Wade was LAST season) after taking almost 2 yrs off and had just run through the league on a 72-10 clip. So yeah, he might have been worn down a lil in the finals. But let's see: 27/5/4 on 41% FG and 31% 3FG. So about what Kobe did vs the C's in 2008 and 2010 at ages 29 and 31. And Kobe was what, 6-24 in the close out game in 2010. Gotcha.

And LeBron sucked (comparatively) against Bruce Bowen in 07, sucked against Shawn Marion, DeShawn Stevenson and JJ Barea (Same Shawn Marion Jordan dropped 50 on at age 39) in 2011.

I mean, you can work your hardest to discount MJ, but the guys you tout out as GOAT all have dud playoff showings at some point and considering MJ's floors are all over age 32 and would be middle of the pack performances for your 'GOATS' is telling.

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>How old were you when this series was played? That Phoenix
>team was about league avg defensively and when you can score
>like they did, you're not necessarily gonna need to keep a
>team to below 100 a game.

I'm old enough to know that Phoenix team didn't play defense - I watched them that whole season and had the Bulls winning because of MJ and because the Bulls did play defense, despite Phoenix's league best record I had belief in them whatsoever beating MJ in a 7 gm series - Magic was doing the play-by-play for that series w/Bob Costas and who kept pointing out how easy MJ's points were coming....


>But still, Thunder Dan made all
>defensive team twice in his career and one of them being THAT
>season so I wouldn't say he was terrible.

C'mon, fam, Mahjerle was ALL hustle and effort - he got steals but he wasn't by any mean what you would call an elite perimeter defender - he didn't have the lateral movement to stay w/Jordan...which is why Phoenix tried putting the smaller KJ on him and he too got torched

>
>>Jordan never had to face an elite wing defender during his
>>championship run - the likes of a Durant/Kawhi/Paul
>>George/Jimmy Butler/Luol Deng/Artest
>
>Guys Jordan had to face during his championship run that made
>all defensive teams: Nate McMillan (2x), Gary Payton (9x),
>John Stockon (5x), Dan Majerle (2x), John Starks (1x), Larry
>Nance (3x), Joe Dumars (5x).

Stockton nor Larry Nance had to guard Jordan and Starks was just too small and so was Dumars but he had a lot of help in defending MJ - none of these players except GP were true elite defensive players...particularly compared to the wing players Lebron has had to go up against
>
>LMAO Nance, Majerle and Starks made all defensive 2nd team THE
>SAME DAMN YEAR! Which happened to be this 92/93 season we're
>discussing. So he literally torched all of the elite
>defenders of that season. Not to mention Stacy Augmon in the
>1st round who was a pretty good defender.

Nance was a PF lol - and again compare the perimeter defenders Jordan faced compared to these wing players Lebron is facing - not even close if we're being honest
>
>>He had f'ing Hornacek and Byron Russell trying to guard him
>in
>>the 97 and 98 finals lol
>
>LMAO...you mean the same Hornacek and Russell that helped the
>Jazz win 55 games the year Kobe won his first title?

He and Russell both were bit players on that team - you could've let Hornacel and Russell guard MJ at the same time and they still would've gotten torched lol - neither of those dudes were great one on one defensive players...not even close

>
>People who guarded Kobe in his finals runs:
>Reggie Miller/Jalen Rose
>Eric Snow/Aaron Mckie
>Kerry Kittles/Lucious Harris
>Chauncey/Rip
>Pierce/Ray Allen (2x)
>Mickael Pietrus/Courtney Lee

But this ain't abt Bean - this is abt the perimeter defenders Lebron has had to face

Kawhi Leonard/Paul George/Jimmy Butler are easily better than any three perimeter players MJ had to play against
>
>Hardly a group of world beating defenders. All this to say,
>title runs are a mixed bag.
>
>>Notice the one time he did go up against a great defensive
>>player in the finals, Gary Payton, he had his least
>impressive
>>finals - had only *ONE* 30 pt game that entire series and I
>>think he was like 5-19 in the close out gm 6
>>
>>Just saying
>
>Well Gary Payton (DPOY) and Nate Mcmillan were both all
>defensive team on a 67-15 squad and Mike was like 32 (same age
>D-Wade was LAST season) after taking almost 2 yrs off and had
>just run through the league on a 72-10 clip.

Eh the age thing is a plea cop because that was the Bulls team that won 72 gms and MJ was the MVP - GP was just in his jersey and not enough credit is giving to him ((Macmillian too) for their defense on him


So yeah, he
>might have been worn down a lil in the finals. But let's see:
>27/5/4 on 41% FG and 31% 3FG. So about what Kobe did vs the
>C's in 2008 and 2010 at ages 29 and 31. And Kobe was what,
>6-24 in the close out game in 2010. Gotcha.

Yo, Bruh, you got the wrong guy if you think I'm abt to defend Kobe - no one has dissected Bean's career more than me - "I'm off that" (c) Jayz
>
>And LeBron sucked (comparatively) against Bruce Bowen in 07,
>sucked against Shawn Marion, DeShawn Stevenson and JJ Barea
>(Same Shawn Marion Jordan dropped 50 on at age 39) in 2011.

Both instances were more abt TEAM DEFENSE than individual defense - BB admitted that it was having Timmy behind him that enabled the Spurs to slow Lebron down moreso than just great one one one defense - but we've still seen Lebron put in work against better wing defensive players than the ones you listed
>
>I mean, you can work your hardest to discount MJ, but the guys
>you tout out as GOAT all have dud playoff showings at some
>point and considering MJ's floors are all over age 32 and
>would be middle of the pack performances for your 'GOATS' is
>telling.

It's not abt discounting what MJ has done but some things need to be put into a certain perspective - I've mentioned before that MJ happened to come along at a time when 2-guards and other perimeter players weren't as skilled as the ones in today's game...

Even Iggy is probably better than any perimeter defender who guarded Jordan during his title reign except for GP who was giving giving up some size to MJ

Perimeter players today are bigger, more athletic and more skilled and better defensively than the perimeter players in Jordan's era

grassrootsphilosopher

>I'm old enough to know that Phoenix team didn't play defense -
>I watched them that whole season and had the Bulls winning
>because of MJ and because the Bulls did play defense, despite
>Phoenix's league best record I had belief in them whatsoever
>beating MJ in a 7 gm series - Magic was doing the play-by-play
>for that series w/Bob Costas and who kept pointing out how
>easy MJ's points were coming....

I'll let you rock here but Thunder Dan wasn't garbo no less than Delly is and Dan was much more athletic.

>C'mon, fam, Mahjerle was ALL hustle and effort - he got steals
>but he wasn't by any mean what you would call an elite
>perimeter defender - he didn't have the lateral movement to
>stay w/Jordan...which is why Phoenix tried putting the smaller
>KJ on him and he too got torched

I won't disagree with this but he was all defensive 2nd team playing on a team you said played no D. How does that happen if he wasn't an elite defender?

>Stockton nor Larry Nance had to guard Jordan and Starks was
>just too small and so was Dumars but he had a lot of help in
>defending MJ - none of these players except GP were true elite
>defensive players...particularly compared to the wing players
>Lebron has had to go up against

>Nance was a PF lol - and again compare the perimeter defenders
>Jordan faced compared to these wing players Lebron is facing -
>not even close if we're being honest

The point being, you made it seem like MJ just layuped his way to 6 rings over crème puffs...these dudes have pedigree and while they weren't always primarily matched up against him, they did spot duty. Only guys in the playoffs the last two years to spend almost exclusive time guarding Bron were Jimmy and Kawhi. And comparatively, I'll concede that yeah some of these guys are bigger/tougher defenders. Do I think that would stop Jordan in his prime? No. Same way it's not stopping LeBron.

>He and Russell both were bit players on that team - you
>could've let Hornacel and Russell guard MJ at the same time
>and they still would've gotten torched lol - neither of those
>dudes were great one on one defensive players...not even
>close

Yet no one else was getting off on the Jazz BUT MJ...and he was 33 and 34 when it happened to boot.

>But this ain't abt Bean - this is abt the perimeter defenders
>Lebron has had to face

Sorry, confused you with Kira who seems to nuthug both. My bad.

>Kawhi Leonard/Paul George/Jimmy Butler are easily better than
>any three perimeter players MJ had to play against

Spreewell, Ray Allen, Payton, Dumars, Dominique, Vernon Maxwell, Clyde Drexler, Penny Hardaway, Mitch Richmond, Grant Hill, Allan Houston, Steve Smith, Glen Rice, Jim Jackson, Jamal Mashburn, Eddie Jones, Reggie Miller...are you really saying those 3 are better than ANY 3 on this list?

>Eh the age thing is a plea cop because that was the Bulls team
>that won 72 gms and MJ was the MVP - GP was just in his jersey
>and not enough credit is giving to him ((Macmillian too) for
>their defense on him

Age matters...that's why people are amazed at Tim Duncan to this day. 32 is athleticism decline stage for NBA perimeter players. You remember what a beast Vince use to be right? Look at his stats at age 32+ or his highlights...right.

>Yo, Bruh, you got the wrong guy if you think I'm abt to defend
>Kobe - no one has dissected Bean's career more than me - "I'm
>off that" (c) Jayz

My bad.

>Both instances were more abt TEAM DEFENSE than individual
>defense - BB admitted that it was having Timmy behind him that
>enabled the Spurs to slow Lebron down moreso than just great
>one one one defense - but we've still seen Lebron put in work
>against better wing defensive players than the ones you
>listed

Nice plea cop there.

>It's not abt discounting what MJ has done but some things need
>to be put into a certain perspective - I've mentioned before
>that MJ happened to come along at a time when 2-guards and
>other perimeter players weren't as skilled as the ones in
>today's game...

I think you're cysing this a lil 'too' much. There's some merit to it though. I could argue that today's interior defenders aren't as good as yesteryears and that helped teams play better team D back then but we'd just be running in circles (especially given your plea cop for bron's wack performances being he had great interior defenders helping).

>Even Iggy is probably better than any perimeter defender who
>guarded Jordan during his title reign except for GP who was
>giving giving up some size to MJ

Iggy is comparable to somebody like Gerald Wilkins as a defender. And Mike roasted him too. You're cysing this waaaaay too hard.

>Perimeter players today are bigger, more athletic and more
>skilled and better defensively than the perimeter players in
>Jordan's era

bigger (lie if we're talking 90-98, that started the wave of bigger SG's and SF's, I listed a gang of them that were between 6'5" and 6'8" which is what they average out about now)
more athletic (a bit, I agree)
more skilled (in some aspects, but lack fundamentals in areas that matter so it's a wash)
better defensively (marginally...it's probably heavier up top than overall)

I'll concede some of this by I think you're pushing that barometer waaaaaay too far to the left.

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So your champion of elite defense is thought of...well not at all by the guy you are desperately trying to tear down

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MJ played against Dumars how many times in the playoff? Not to mention they were in the same division

He played against GP one time in the playoffs...and GP didn't even start out on Jordan in that finals series (til this day he laments not being giving the task of guarding MJ from the start of the series), McMillan did

The numbers don't lie - I gives a damn abt some Jordan quote - fact is he scored 30 + pts ONE TIME in that series which went 6 gms and he shot under 50% in the series

Dumars played on arguably the BEST DEFENSIVE TEAM in NBA history and he had a lot of help guarding Jordan







>So your champion of elite defense is thought of...well not at
>all by the guy you are desperately trying to tear down

grassrootsphilosopher

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

Majerle was 2nd team All D in 93 and an All Star

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>Majerle was 2nd team All D in 93 and an All Star

grassrootsphilosopher

But do you really think ppl my age in Michigan ever had the chance to watch Thunder Dan and didnt?

Or are you just trying to hide from your lying?

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

>But do you really think ppl my age in Michigan ever had the
>chance to watch Thunder Dan and didnt?

Don't know, don't care - but I know YOU must not have seen Mahjerle actually play because you're bringing up that he made the all-defensive team 2x in his career as some sort of proof that he was an *elite* perimeter defender lol....old ass Ricky Pierce was taking it to him in the 1st round of the playoffs that season lol

Dan Mahjerle wasn't a lock-down defensive player, he had a lot of hustle in him and was known as a scrappy player but that's as far as it goes

Jimmy Butler for instance is light years better than "Thunder Dan" as a defensive player and how many times has Butler made the all-defensive team, again?

Matter of fact, of all the top defensive players MJ had to face during his playoff/championship run, Dan Mahjerle wouldn't be one of the players that comes to mind lol
>
>Or are you just trying to hide from your lying?

Man, go have a seat in the corner
>

grassrootsphilosopher

Yes or no?

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>Jimmy Butler for instance is light years better than "Thunder
>Dan" as a defensive player and how many times has Butler made
>the all-defensive team, again?

2 times...this year and last. And he hasn't been in the league that long.

This one doesn't help your argument lol

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& has largely been every bit as admirable & devoted to famiy off the court for his entire career

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becoming a household name now and how his family is shown every single game...partly bc of his dad, partly bc its a beautiful family. In any event, Curry story is being composed right now.



Its been LeBron and his mom from the beginning and then savannah from the beginning as LeBron was a household name from the beginning. You don't really ever see the kids or the whole family shown aside from the commercials. i'm not sure if savannah even attends the games like that. Ask vex.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

> Ask vex.

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but he's too honorable, too good-hearted, too high integrity for anyone to have any credible argument against his character.

He also dwarfs a lot of past and present Greats in his willingness to speak out on important issues and make bold statements. Whether it was the hoodie exercise during the Trayvon incident in Miami, or him definitively saying "there's no place for Donald Sterling in our league" - or wearing the "black lives matter" shirt before other players latched on to that movement, Bron is a voice of social consciousness amidst a sea of athletes who remain indifferent and about the "bottom-line" when it comes to speaking up.



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He's out there with guys he can trust to do more than just spot up, his Heat teams never players that can defend on an island like Delly and Shump, no rebounders like Tristan and Mozzy.

You a sucker for the avy, for real though. Diss Cavs fan and you diss yourself, dickrider...

Lebron doesn't have to defend the other teams best player with this cavs squad either.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

Battier and Wade couldn't defend on an island? Bosh couldn't rebound?

I mean, really, it's a WONDER they won two titles and four conference crowns!

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

Lebron loves his mother, so all my judgement pretty
much ends there.


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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

#FactsOnly

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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

I'm a fan of Lebron, and I don't want to read this shit(and I didn't).

It's easy to say "don't click", but this shit is cluttering up the board at this point.

Less is more sometimes. Gotdamn.

and just happens to be averaging a near triple-double as well.

gonna be ok?

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i mean...top notch ones at that. his wife know abt these broads...her position is rock solid, she aint worried abt them

we dont. nor should we. but he got em.

tyus the garbage man got side pieces, a dude worth over 200M defn got em


does it really matter?

wonder what bin's doing?
http://i.imgur.com/phECCMp.jpg

been around a lot of big celebrities/athletes in these situations, been at the tables w/ them. I'd say 80-90% of them are there recruiting hoes and tricking.

Every single time I've seen Lebron in that situation he's just goofing around w/ his friends and not paying any of these exquisitely bad jawns any attention. He genuinely seems to be about his family life, about his wife, and simply not interested in the extra-curriculars. He's a very different kind of superstar in that regard.

now, could he have side hoes? Of course. Has he given you or anyone else any reason to believe he does? no.

Athletes of his stature almost ALWAYS get caught if they are tricking. Kobe, Ewing, Jordan, Shaq, Magic etc... etc... -- they all get caught if they are doing dirt.

But not Kang.

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a long time.

i dont know about bron's dick one way or the other but you're claiming to have some intimate knowledge in the OP. he hasn't fucked with any jawns before you, a total stranger who had coincidental "encounters?" WOW, HOW CONVINCING. I suppose because Michael Redd wasn't tonguing down a stripper at breakfast when he and old boy "had words," he is some sort of monk.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

#FactsOnly

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I've been in the same room as LeBron several times, too. I don't claim that makes me any more knowledgeable about him than anyone else though.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

You were likely in the same room as Lebron in a press situation during the day where there is no opportunity to do dirt and trick. Big difference.


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it's more cum buckets at the event level of staples center than there was in all of times square circa 1985. shit is real down there. but i wasn't paying close attention either, but you seem perfectly content to be watching his dick from the bar.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

everybody knows that you haven't been in a club in any advanced type of social setting.
Not this century, not any century.

I'd be glad to let you know when something is popping and get you a wristband for it, but that would require you to actually show up and deal with a real, grown man type of situation.

Stay typist tough, breh.

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But beyond that if he won't show off postgame because the cameras on him, he won't do it at a club either, for the same fucking reason.

So again, you tried to flex about that time you caught a glimpse of his shoulder while some gay in a denim suit pushed you out of the way. But, in the end, you know dick about shit like anyone else here.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

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i like how you totally ducked the idea that in 2015 he'd be just as cautious in any public place as he would in a postgame activity. everyone has cameras. i'll take that as an admission of regret that you included this ridiculous component to your OP.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

and I know both of you are good dudes offline...it's strange.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

the loudest rabble-rousers and tough typists are always the ones who hide behind anonymity.

Now if we had an actual reference for Olde Tyme Charlie in real life, I might be able to respect him. But I can't respect somebody who isn't even real. Dude wouldn't mouth off in-person like that, so I just let the cooking commence.

I love it.


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you can launch your quest after the finals, when you will surely go dark after some unsuccessful attempt to turn this pending Cavs L into a Bron agenda win.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

are you high right now?

do you ever get nervous?


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>are you high right now?

No, but it sounds like a decent idea.

>do you ever get nervous?

http://blogs.courier-journal.com/ulbeat/files/2013/11/pervis.jpg

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

Same guy as he is on the boards

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

one of their "representatives" approach females on their behalf and give them the room key, lol

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

and like i said - just because he hasn't been caught doesn't mean he doesn't do dirt on the side.

But that's now how character analysis and assessment works. He has given every indication that he's a genuine, serious family man (with a Family Foundation) - and he's genuine about the love for his wife and family.

He's given zero indication that he's tricking - and in this age, it's very difficult to hide that for *this* long.

Why is this even brought up? Because anti-Kangaroos like to engage in character assassination of a guy who possesses a rock-solid character off the basketball court, and it's fun to call them out on it.

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prior to that dude had never even had a traffic ticket

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

which is that a lot of these guys that are in lebron's position,
who are that well known, they aren't out in clubs chasing
random ass left and right because that would be stupid, but
some of these dudes will have one sidepiece for YEARS. and
a lot of times the woman will also be someone who's married
and extremely well known, so she's got just as much to lose,
which is why the shit stays on the low for so long.

by no means am i suggesting that that's the case w/ lebron,
but if i found out tomorrow that it was -- that he'd been smashing
beyonce or alicia keys or some shit on the low for the last 5 yrs --
it certainly wouldn't shock me at all. as my man scarface said,
that's that other damn level of the game.

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it is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - sherlock holmes