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TheRealBillyOcean
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"So Scott Skiles is not liked by anybody. Mark Jackson is liked by some."


          

Mark has been more successful than Scott.

Yet Scott is about to get a job?

Hmmm...

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Mark Jackson got the shaft . period.
May 26th 2015
1
Wrong place, moved to 22
May 26th 2015
14
      its the reason i dont want the Ws winning shit...
May 26th 2015
20
      The Warriors are *definitely* winning the title, homie
May 26th 2015
25
           and because analytics and firing Mark Jackson
May 26th 2015
42
                Analytics? You're an ass clown.
May 26th 2015
46
                     and Alvin Gentry gave them an offense to run
May 26th 2015
57
                          They averaged almost the exact same # of assists as last year.
May 26th 2015
67
                               RE: They averaged almost the exact same # of assists as last year.
May 26th 2015
96
                               are you a fucking liar? why yes, yes you are
May 26th 2015
111
                               Seeing you squirm out of this lie should be fun.
May 27th 2015
118
                               I'm not clicking that link in the inbox you sent me, dog torturer
May 27th 2015
124
                                    That post got deleted but...
May 27th 2015
125
                                         No dead animals, please, that's all I ask for
May 27th 2015
128
                                              LAST WORD!!!!!
May 27th 2015
129
                               i almost admire the balls it takes to lie so blatantly
May 27th 2015
120
                                    Nah, just felt like making y'all Google, quite honestly
May 27th 2015
123
                                         What a terrible lie.
May 27th 2015
126
                                              I'm 100% serious. I'm a dark soul with a light heart.
May 27th 2015
127
      Man, you might wanna take an okp timeout for a few months.
May 26th 2015
21
           Dog, my real life is rolling thunder, homie
May 26th 2015
23
                and doesn't eat donuts
May 26th 2015
26
                Ate a super good one the other day
May 26th 2015
28
                Poone's Nerfect
May 26th 2015
29
                maybe just the TO, then. You've been awfully OEmo lately
May 26th 2015
27
                all of the model fucking is making him emotional
May 26th 2015
30
                Nah bruh, I'm just a straight shooter
May 26th 2015
32
                     been hearing this from both sides for decades if not centuries
May 26th 2015
62
                          Nah, I'm not talking violence or revolution
May 26th 2015
69
                               So, what will happen exactly?
May 26th 2015
106
                these claims are increasingly suspect
May 26th 2015
61
                     I can verify all
May 26th 2015
72
                          just bc I hit your girl off when she was short don't mean it's habitual
May 26th 2015
107
This is going to go plat.
May 26th 2015
2
double plat.
May 26th 2015
3
make it DOUBLE PLATINUM...no bullshittin (c)DMX
May 26th 2015
4
I'm just saying, Mark my first favorite player ever.
May 26th 2015
9
List of 4 actual bball greats + 2 overhyped/underwhelming New York trash
May 26th 2015
36
      Mark Jackson isn't an all time great or top tier point guard
May 26th 2015
39
      Kenny Anderson was actually better than him, Jax assist #'s are counting
May 26th 2015
66
           Nah, Mark was fun to me. He could pass. And I love the Tear Drop
May 26th 2015
76
                Find me anyone not from New York who found Mark Jackson fun to watch.
May 26th 2015
78
                     https://lebatardlookslikegame.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/jvg422131.jpg
May 26th 2015
                          SVG spent 15 years w/the Knicks,that makes him 3rd generation New Yorker
May 26th 2015
93
      Well, I'm from NYC & we love what we love. And Philly's 2nd tier status....
May 26th 2015
44
           Nobody I know eats Cheez Whiz or cyses wack point guards, g'luck w/that
May 26th 2015
58
                No Whiz? Sure. Next you'll be denying painted beards & polos...
May 26th 2015
74
                     dawg New York don't even have a Goomba or Lowry right now, fix ya face.
May 26th 2015
75
                          Lmao...you named 2 dudes Mark & Kenny were better than. Yay!
May 26th 2015
77
                          nobody ever been silly enough to brag about them + they're in the league
May 26th 2015
80
                               Yall only brag about artery clogging food & a 0 Super Bowl winning squad
May 26th 2015
85
                                    Id switch subjects too, like when Jax sees his team on TV better w/o him
May 26th 2015
92
                                         Switch subjects? We still on the same one. Y'all don't care about hoops.
May 26th 2015
95
                                              *pfft*
May 26th 2015
97
                          And cuz you named a dude from Chester, I raise you Ky from the North
May 26th 2015
79
                               please, he's a Jersey Prep kid turned Dukie. Goomba a Chester kid who
May 26th 2015
81
                                    And he's from Chester. You can say Ky from Australia too.
May 26th 2015
84
                                         The floodgates opened & swept that back-em-down bible-thumper out a job
May 26th 2015
87
Nah, only if I start the post.
May 26th 2015
22
Give it time.
May 26th 2015
65
For this to go 100+ responses deep
May 26th 2015
33
      He's a motivator of men
May 26th 2015
34
      People would defend Skiles if I made this post.
May 26th 2015
38
Popcorn
May 26th 2015
5
Which job?
May 26th 2015
6
ORL. And that job is tailor made for Mark. DeVos/Hannigan fucking up
May 26th 2015
7
      And one of their best players and FA's, Tobias, already doesn't like him...
May 26th 2015
10
      It's not a very competitive team though, we don't know he'd be intereste...
May 26th 2015
51
Scott Skiles is a wannabe Ken Reeves
May 26th 2015
8
He got 30 assists one time!
May 26th 2015
11
and it was while he played for Orlando!
May 26th 2015
31
They'll be in the playoffs Skiles year one
May 26th 2015
12
Skiles 1st meeting with Elfrid is gonna be him looking at his hair...
May 26th 2015
24
      lol
May 26th 2015
50
He DID make the playoffs once with Brandon Jennings starting
May 26th 2015
13
What has Skilles been doing in the interim?
May 26th 2015
15
Honing his defensive toughness
May 26th 2015
16
Has he really been unemployed
May 26th 2015
17
      To my knowledge he has not had an NBA job for two seasons
May 26th 2015
112
getting arrested
May 26th 2015
18
Said "you can talk about anything cept for Jesus"
May 26th 2015
19
Did Orlando's GM just really like playing as the Magic in NBA Jam?
May 26th 2015
35
Skiles is apparently liked by someone at a franchise he's played for and
May 26th 2015
37
I'm gonna upset when a mediocre coach nobody likes & keeps getting jobs
May 26th 2015
41
Skiles has actually had more success than MamaThereGoThatMADagain
May 26th 2015
59
we just want equal opportunities for shitty coaches.
May 26th 2015
43
      who's we? This is pretty simple, Jackson's likely an asshole + bad coach
May 26th 2015
63
           You know what? That MIGHT be true, Bomb.
May 26th 2015
71
           RE: You know what? That MIGHT be true, Bomb.
May 26th 2015
73
                Jackson inherited a 36-46 team, Bomb
May 26th 2015
105
           i mean people who want more coaching diversity in nba/nfl/cfb/cbb ranks
May 26th 2015
90
                oh well I'm one of them, I just realize Jackson is a clown.
May 26th 2015
94
                     i know u are , thats why i said we lol
May 26th 2015
98
                          I'll just say this:
May 26th 2015
99
Yup. It's bullshit.
May 26th 2015
40
You and LABeatThaHustla are so emotional. For why?
May 26th 2015
49
      im not really as invested as my post seems lol
May 26th 2015
52
           right that is the thing, they are very similar, one with a longer record
May 26th 2015
64
Jackson will get another job. Probably when the Finals are over
May 26th 2015
45
He's got a good job on TV
May 26th 2015
47
      He had a better job creating the best shooting backcourt of all time
May 26th 2015
70
Probably Skiles' last chance as a head man. Jackson can work if he wants
May 26th 2015
48
Mark Jackson got shafted, fine
May 26th 2015
53
It's the same thing, though
May 26th 2015
55
RE: It's the same thing, though
May 26th 2015
56
ohhhh stfu with that hyperbole, NOBODY cried for Scott Brooks
May 26th 2015
60
      "Linear olympics of unfairness." I like that.
May 26th 2015
68
           true, but why choose a privileged person like mark jackson?
May 26th 2015
88
                That's actually the best way to study racism
May 26th 2015
100
                     See...even though we disagree about Monty we can build on this.
May 26th 2015
102
                     I bet if Stockton coached, NOBODY would talk about his IQ
May 26th 2015
103
                     RE: See...even though we disagree about Monty we can build on this.
May 26th 2015
109
                     By that measure, Testaverde is one of the 10 best NFL passers ever
May 26th 2015
108
steve kerr is jus driving mark jacksons bus
May 26th 2015
82
      twice as fast and right on time.
May 26th 2015
89
Great Hire
May 26th 2015
54
this is a weird debate. pretty sure jax had zero interest in that job.
May 26th 2015
83
I'm not debating if its a good gig, if Jax wanted it, or if Jax is a gre...
May 26th 2015
101
      has he been any less successful or less liked than jackson?
May 26th 2015
113
           In 13 seasons Skiles has been to the 2nd round twice.
May 27th 2015
114
                50% over 10+ seasons or 52% over three years .... that's not similar?
May 27th 2015
116
                     The premise of the OP, but you're insisting on being obtuse...
May 27th 2015
119
                          why do you assume this?
May 27th 2015
122
                               Cuz he's not being mentioned for these gigs.
May 27th 2015
130
NEWSFLASH: NBA Coaches get fired really quick
May 26th 2015
86
and not to dwell on past missteps but this is a reminder for folks
May 26th 2015
91
Why talk about his "lack of understanding of Xs and Os" then?
May 26th 2015
104
      That's not exactly what Lacob said.
May 26th 2015
110
           Nah, Xs and Os only means one thing, and you know it.
May 27th 2015
115
                OK, dude
May 27th 2015
117
                     Apology accepted, don't let it happen again.
May 27th 2015
121
"Now you pissed me off!"
May 12th 2016
131
what will you do if he gets ANOTHER job before Mark?
May 12th 2016
132
      You mean when.
May 12th 2016
133

LAbeathustla
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1. "Mark Jackson got the shaft . period."
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give him a full season with Bogut

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be about it or be without it

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Orbit_Established
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14. "Wrong place, moved to 22"
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Tue May-26-15 12:39 PM by Orbit_Established

  

          



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20. "its the reason i dont want the Ws winning shit..."
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i LOVE Steph and Dray.....but yeah ..fk that organization

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Orbit_Established
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25. "The Warriors are *definitely* winning the title, homie"
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Nothing you can do about that

If for no other reason that they are the last team
that is close to healthy

And because they have "the best shooting backcourt in
the history of the league" (c) Mark Jackson, who was
roundly criticized by white people for saying what is
definitely true

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42. "and because analytics and firing Mark Jackson"
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don't forget that.

just so we're clear on this post's main topic: i would much, much, much rather hire mark jackson to coach my nba basketball team than scott skiles.

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46. "Analytics? You're an ass clown. "
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Tue May-26-15 01:41 PM by Orbit_Established

  

          

>don't forget that.
>
>just so we're clear on this post's main topic: i would much,
>much, much rather hire mark jackson to coach my nba basketball
>team than scott skiles.

"Analytics" didn't do anything.

Bogut was healthy and the best shooting backcourt of
all time moved closer to their prime.

And they added Livinston.

And Draymond is in a contract year (another
Jackson discovery; Jackson was the one who gave
him playmaking freedom and major minutes)

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57. "and Alvin Gentry gave them an offense to run"
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67. "They averaged almost the exact same # of assists as last year. "
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I already destroyed that "they didn't pass the
ball" under Jackson

The team also added an excellent ball handler and
passer in Livingston

You guys have decided to ignore these things, and party
on the fired black guy who also happens to be one of the
10 best passers in the history of basketball


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96. "RE: They averaged almost the exact same # of assists as last year. "
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lol cmon that's not even close to being true

  

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111. "are you a fucking liar? why yes, yes you are"
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They averaged four more assists as a team this year. The difference between the best and worst teams in the league last year was 6, so that gives you an idea of the scale of improvement. Four is considerable.

They managed to increase scoring (by six points per game) and cut down turnovers slightly in the process.

They shot better from the field and three, despite already being an excellent shooting team.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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Ryan M
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118. "Seeing you squirm out of this lie should be fun."
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124. "I'm not clicking that link in the inbox you sent me, dog torturer"
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Chill out


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125. "That post got deleted but..."
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Again, for posterity, all I did was mimic you and now you're calling me a dog torturer.

Not only is that weird as shit...

It's also what you think of yourself.

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128. "No dead animals, please, that's all I ask for"
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Not clicking, you strange Reddit sharing of animal
torture torrents


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129. "LAST WORD!!!!!"
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120. "i almost admire the balls it takes to lie so blatantly"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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123. "Nah, just felt like making y'all Google, quite honestly"
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We had that discussion on here already

Y'all stopped your lame existences, went and googled,
just to verify a point


That's a victory



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126. "What a terrible lie."
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Seek help, man. Your lying is out of control.

I'm serious.

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127. "I'm 100% serious. I'm a dark soul with a light heart. "
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I had niggas googling and foaming at the mouth

For what?

Nothing.

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21. "Man, you might wanna take an okp timeout for a few months."
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Have more positive interactions with actual humans. Get some hugs. Learn how to make vege cassoulet.

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23. "Dog, my real life is rolling thunder, homie"
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>Have more positive interactions with actual humans. Get some
>hugs. Learn how to make vege cassoulet.

I eat well, sleep well, fuck models and solve mysteries
of the universe

I'm serious



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26. "and doesn't eat donuts"
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28. "Ate a super good one the other day"
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I love them

I just don't eat them like that


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29. "Poone's Nerfect"
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27. "maybe just the TO, then. You've been awfully OEmo lately"
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30. "all of the model fucking is making him emotional"
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32. "Nah bruh, I'm just a straight shooter"
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We are actually headed for a racial apocalypse in
this country, that is a fact

Just a real meltdown of the social fabric of lives
between black and white people (with other groups
having to choose, most of them choosing white people)

It's a real thing

I'm just talking about it

I'm ready for it, so I'm good

I'm honestly worried about y'all

It's not about bodily harm (unless you're black)

Its more about a widespread division and re-segregation
and souring of social interaction

It's going to happen, trust me



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62. "been hearing this from both sides for decades if not centuries"
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it's right there with a rap line about "the last days."

i didnt know you were off on that corny ass shit. that explains a lot.

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69. "Nah, I'm not talking violence or revolution "
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I'm not talking fake revolutionary shit

I'm talking about the social fabric of race

We're gonna drop everything and kinda stop trying to
talk about shit at all

All of the culture stealing and the heaping of everything
bad about the world on black people is going to get too
much to handle

Wait until black people in Latin America wake up

It's gonna get UGLY

(That one might actually get violent)

You can't burden one race with all this

First it's ACTUAL burden (slavery, Jim CRow)

Then it's ECONOMIC burden

Now it's this "cultural" burden

You got people STEALING from black brilliance and turning
RIGHT AROUND and talking shit about black people

It's too much



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106. "So, what will happen exactly?"
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And this will be a global event?

Please tell me more, Lyndon Larouche

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61. "these claims are increasingly suspect"
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72. "I can verify all "
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Unlike you, I don't pay for pussy, though


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107. "just bc I hit your girl off when she was short don't mean it's habitual"
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2. "This is going to go plat."
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OE will be 60 of the replies, but it will go plat.

Also, you're not wrong.

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3. "double plat."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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4. "make it DOUBLE PLATINUM...no bullshittin (c)DMX"
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.

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9. "I'm just saying, Mark my first favorite player ever."
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As a 9 yr old, I didn't watch hoops probably could name 6 players (Dr. J, Kareem, Magic, Mark Jackson, Patrick, and Kenny Anderson). My dude getting a raw deal.

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36. "List of 4 actual bball greats + 2 overhyped/underwhelming New York trash"
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>As a 9 yr old, I didn't watch hoops probably could name 6
>players (Dr. J, Kareem, Magic, Mark Jackson, Patrick, and
>Kenny Anderson). My dude getting a raw deal.

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39. "Mark Jackson isn't an all time great or top tier point guard"
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But isn't he third or fourth all time in terms of assist numbers? I'm not a Mark Jackson fan, but to call him garbage as a player is a bit overboard IMO.

  

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66. "Kenny Anderson was actually better than him, Jax assist #'s are counting"
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stats from hanging around while playing that wack-ass bully-ball back-em-down post-game he had with a lot of good teammates around him.

Steph was better than Mark Jackson and he's a legend only in Coney Island & China.

Mark Jackson was atrocious to watch play basketball and now even worse to listen to talk basketball.

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76. "Nah, Mark was fun to me. He could pass. And I love the Tear Drop"
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I've never heard anybody hate Mark hooping.

But this is OKP, where dudes claim they see 20 chicks that look better than Beyonce working at their local Sbarro's so. Anyting is possible I guess.

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78. "Find me anyone not from New York who found Mark Jackson fun to watch."
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That's why every single 'Action' photo of this dude in a Pacer jersey looks like this:

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http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lybp7xP4p81qcmnsoo5_540.jpg

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/317/301/Mark_Jackson_display_image.jpg?1280262462

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"https://lebatardlookslikegame.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/jvg422131.jpg"


          

https://lebatardlookslikegame.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/jvg422131.jpg

Mark was fun. And Mark won.

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93. "SVG spent 15 years w/the Knicks,that makes him 3rd generation New Yorker"
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If you can take it there {MSG}, you'll take it, anywhere.

Mark Jackson is about as fun as the bible parable he inadvertently told his players for times during halftime intermissions last year.

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44. "Well, I'm from NYC & we love what we love. And Philly's 2nd tier status...."
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won't stop that now or never.

We don't get upset at Philly's many uses for Cheese Whiz...cuz
1.) We don't care.
2.) We realize cholesterol is real.

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58. "Nobody I know eats Cheez Whiz or cyses wack point guards, g'luck w/that"
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>won't stop that now or never.
>
>We don't get upset at Philly's many uses for Cheese
>Whiz...cuz
>1.) We don't care.
>2.) We realize cholesterol is real.

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74. "No Whiz? Sure. Next you'll be denying painted beards & polos..."
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buttoned all the way to the top button.

Philly don' talk about their pgs, because nobody remembers Alvin Williams fam.

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75. "dawg New York don't even have a Goomba or Lowry right now, fix ya face."
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77. "Lmao...you named 2 dudes Mark & Kenny were better than. Yay!"
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Blame it on the Whiz!

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80. "nobody ever been silly enough to brag about them + they're in the league"
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unlike Steph, his lil cousin or Felipe Lopez.

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85. "Yall only brag about artery clogging food & a 0 Super Bowl winning squad"
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Philly needs a visit from Stuart Smiley my guy

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92. "Id switch subjects too, like when Jax sees his team on TV better w/o him"
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95. "Switch subjects? We still on the same one. Y'all don't care about hoops."
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Don't rep your hoops tradition.

So no wonder at Age 9 I liked Mark Jackson and Kenny Anderson and still do.

Still love Felipe too.

Rod, Lamar, Kareem Reid, shit I still like to see Lenny Wilkens.

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97. "*pfft* "
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79. "And cuz you named a dude from Chester, I raise you Ky from the North"
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81. "please, he's a Jersey Prep kid turned Dukie. Goomba a Chester kid who"
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played high school playoff games in Philly (25 minutes away) and then spent four years building a Big 5 legacy after that.

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84. "And he's from Chester. You can say Ky from Australia too."
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Don't care. You opened up the floodgates.

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87. "The floodgates opened & swept that back-em-down bible-thumper out a job"
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Genesis 7:24
And the waters prevailed on the earth 150 days.

Genesis 7:22
Everything on the dry land in whose nostrils was the breath of life died.

Genesis 7:20
The waters prevailed above the mountains, covering them fifteen cubits deep.

Genesis 6:12
And God saw the earth, and behold, it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth.

Exodus MJ:13
Mama, There Goeth That Mad Again.

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22. "Nah, only if I start the post."
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RBO is less threatening than I am, and doesn't bring out
white defensiveness the way I do (no shot against RBO, is
a strong blacktino man with the Naija princess of power)

And so, just like we're seeing, people aren't as upset

It's the way racism works

White people have a sliding scale of acceptability

"Shit is disgusting" (c) Cam

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65. "Give it time."
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Even if you didn't make it, it's still an OE post. It's coasting toward plat as we speak.

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33. "For this to go 100+ responses deep"
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would require arguing of some sort, which I think would require finding at least one person that thinks Skiles is a competent head coach.

Is there anyone on this board that is of that opinion?

  

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34. "He's a motivator of men"
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38. "People would defend Skiles if I made this post. "
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It's true

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5. "Popcorn"
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6. "Which job?"
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7. "ORL. And that job is tailor made for Mark. DeVos/Hannigan fucking up"
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10. "And one of their best players and FA's, Tobias, already doesn't like him..."
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And he don't like Tobias.

They're not even trying.

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51. "It's not a very competitive team though, we don't know he'd be intereste..."
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I think it's a well-suited job for him but for Skiles also. They need a bridge coach to come in there, instill structure, develop the players and build a strong work ethic. Those are things I think both guys are good at. Then, when their schtick wears thin and the team is actually good, make a move to bring in a stronger all-around coach.

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8. "Scott Skiles is a wannabe Ken Reeves"
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11. "He got 30 assists one time!"
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(I got nothing. This is dumb.)

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31. "and it was while he played for Orlando!"
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12. "They'll be in the playoffs Skiles year one"
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By year 3 he'll have alienated every decent player they have. There will be no year 4
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24. "Skiles 1st meeting with Elfrid is gonna be him looking at his hair..."
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disapprovingly for 85% of the conversation.

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50. "lol"
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13. "He DID make the playoffs once with Brandon Jennings starting"
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We gotta give him that much...

  

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15. "What has Skilles been doing in the interim?"
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Was he an assistant coach for someone? Haven't heard that name in sometime now.

  

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16. "Honing his defensive toughness"
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17. "Has he really been unemployed"
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since his last head coaching stint and this rumored position in Orlando? That's insane if that's the case.

  

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112. "To my knowledge he has not had an NBA job for two seasons"
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That doesn't strike me as remarkable, really, but no to my knowledge he hasn't been doing scouting or anything like that. He lives in the Orlando area and it doesnt look like he was working with the Magic in any capacity. Maybe he was doing pro scouting for some other team. that is common where you live in another place and use it as a base for pro scouting (almost certainly another Eastern team if so). But again I am not aware of anything like that, I think he was just chillin.

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18. "getting arrested"
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19. "Said "you can talk about anything cept for Jesus""
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and racism.

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35. "Did Orlando's GM just really like playing as the Magic in NBA Jam?"
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What's Nick Anderson doing?

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37. "Skiles is apparently liked by someone at a franchise he's played for and"
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maintained some connection there.

We gonna act outraged every time Mark Jackson doesn't get a job he might not have even wanted while it becomes increasingly obvious Mark Jackson was probably a shitty coach anyway?

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41. "I'm gonna upset when a mediocre coach nobody likes & keeps getting jobs"
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People can hire Vinny Del Negro all they want. At least he was not hated by his employer and players and won just as much if not more than Skiles.

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59. "Skiles has actually had more success than MamaThereGoThatMADagain"
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and a connection to the franchise in question here.

Cry about him not getting the Knick job.

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43. "we just want equal opportunities for shitty coaches."
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same thing with shitty quarterbacks...they all deserve the opportunity to be equally shitty and make a ton of money in the NFL holding a clipboard

>maintained some connection there.
>
>We gonna act outraged every time Mark Jackson doesn't get a
>job he might not have even wanted while it becomes
>increasingly obvious Mark Jackson was probably a shitty coach
>anyway?
>

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63. "who's we? This is pretty simple, Jackson's likely an asshole + bad coach"
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with no connection to the Orlando Magic, Skiles (at worst) is only two of those three at a cheaper price tag.

Since Jackson has got a good TV gig he can/will likely hold out for a better job, since he was turning down interviews for head-coaching positions in Philly & Minnesota before he had even been an assistant coach anywhere.

Of course it's sort of embarrassing that the team that jettisoned him is about to possibly win a championship when he never got them out of the second round but oh well.......his New York bluster and media platform will get him another look to prove he's a sham.

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71. "You know what? That MIGHT be true, Bomb. "
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But Blatt can't keep track of timeouts and doesn't
do anything but stand on the sideline and look intense

And he gets to coach Lebron and Kyrie

I mean, y'all acting like Billy Donovan (who I LIKE)
has done ANYTHING recently in college....what's his
FIRST NBA JOB!?!?!

DURANT AND FUCKING WESTBROOK (and Ibaka and Turkish Bol)!!!

WTF!?!? BOMB!?!?!

So Jackson should get that SAME kind of opportunity

Anything less is 'cism



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73. "RE: You know what? That MIGHT be true, Bomb. "
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>
>But Blatt can't keep track of timeouts and doesn't
>do anything but stand on the sideline and look intense
>
>And he gets to coach Lebron and Kyrie
>
that's an accident on the Lebron front, he got what was then a shitty rebuilding coach job in a small market.

He'll be fired soon perhaps even after winning a title.

>I mean, y'all acting like Billy Donovan (who I LIKE)
>has done ANYTHING recently in college....what's his
>FIRST NBA JOB!?!?!
>
>DURANT AND FUCKING WESTBROOK (and Ibaka and Turkish Bol)!!!
>
>WTF!?!? BOMB!?!?!
>
I woulda given that job to Kevin Ollie, think they wanted to as well but he turned them down and it went to Donovan (which I agree was a bad hire).

>So Jackson should get that SAME kind of opportunity
>
>Anything less is 'cism
>
Jackson is the one recent black coach who actually got the benefit of the doubt, he was given a talented team to coach despite having never coached a day in his life even as an assistant.

All because of New York hype and media connections.

I can name 15-20 black coaches recently who deserved a head coaching look before that guy so I'm not crying while he sits on TV not getting calls about jobs he likely wouldn't take anyway.
>
>----------------------------
>
>
>
>O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"
>
>
>
>
>"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."
>
>(C)Keith Murray, "

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105. "Jackson inherited a 36-46 team, Bomb"
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And went 23-43 in his first (shortened season) because Steph
only played 23 games that year because of the ankles

So I'm not sure what you're talking about.

He was not put into a good situation

He made that team good because he's a good coach
with an outstanding IQ


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90. "i mean people who want more coaching diversity in nba/nfl/cfb/cbb ranks"
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i wouldnt call him a "bad"coach either...and i certainly don't think steve kerr is as good as the warriors record

i just thought his firing was bullshit..just like the pelicans this year.

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94. "oh well I'm one of them, I just realize Jackson is a clown."
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98. "i know u are , thats why i said we lol "
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i still think he got a raw deal despite his personality. the players seemed to vouch for him (iirc) so if he was just pissing off the suits..then ill take his side.

i hope the heat (edit, or the hornets) hire him...just for entertainment purposes

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99. "I'll just say this:"
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>i still think he got a raw deal despite his personality. the
>players seemed to vouch for him (iirc) so if he was just
>pissing off the suits..then ill take his side.

By all accounts, it wasn't just the suits. It was everyone in the organization that wasn't a player. That covers a lot of ground, not just upper management. If he was just treating ownership like shit, I'd be a little more sympathetic; Lacob is a fucking tool. But it extended beyond just the owners and Bob Myers.

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40. "Yup. It's bullshit."
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And part of the reason why I dont want GSW winning shit with a white privileged ass wet behind the ears Steve Kerr manning that team.

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49. "You and LABeatThaHustla are so emotional. For why?"
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Jackson blew up his own spot and they replaced him with a better coach. It's just that simple. Skiles being hired has nothing to do with Jackson at all and the Magic job is kind of a shitty one anyway. There is such a high level of false outrage and erroneous connection on these topics. Mark Jackson has not been "Abdul Jabbar'ed" here, he will be back in coaching if that is what he wants and he feels the right opportunity presents itself.

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52. "im not really as invested as my post seems lol"
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>Jackson blew up his own spot and they replaced him with a
>better coach.

>Skiles being hired has
>nothing to do with Jackson at all and the Magic job is kind of
>a shitty one anyway.

both extremely abrasive personalities...yet one is close to getting hired and another isnt (i havent heard jacksons name come up in any circles fwiw)..



>Mark Jackson
>has not been "Abdul Jabbar'ed" here, he will be back in
>coaching if that is what he wants and he feels the right
>opportunity presents itself.

hopefully

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64. "right that is the thing, they are very similar, one with a longer record"
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winning percentage is about the same, best seasons are similar, the purpose they would serve to an organization is similar, etc.

we agree on that. so why would it be unusual that either guy were hired for this job? if jackson were hired, i wouldnt see it as a slight to skiles. skiles also has connections to orlando. if this were the knicks or even like the pacers job, i could see grounds for upheaval.

again this is *one* job that went to a similarly if not more qualified candidate with connections to that organization. we don't know jackson's immediate desire either. if he expresses a desire to coach again and gets passed over in the next year or two, OK, maybe then i'll get pissed. same thing with monty williams. he should be a head coach in this league but i get why he was let go in new orleans, even though i didnt think the standards were fair to him at all. it happens in coaching, even in leagues where all the coaches are white (NHL) or most are (MLB). i dont get how we can cry about this stuff off guesswork.

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45. "Jackson will get another job. Probably when the Finals are over"
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Meanwhile, let's not pretend Jackson was the perfect coach. Said when it happened that he shouldn't have gotten fired, but he had issues beyond not getting along with the front office and Bogut not being healthy. He did a lot for the Dubs too, so he deserves a lot of credit for that.

Scott Skiles? Fuck him. He'll be fired again soon enough.

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47. "He's got a good job on TV"
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I wonder if he even wants to go back to coaching. Or maybe he'll be the new Doug Collins.

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70. "He had a better job creating the best shooting backcourt of all time"
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He sure did do that

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48. "Probably Skiles' last chance as a head man. Jackson can work if he wants"
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Too much scrutiny being placed on one season back in broadcasting. It's a good gig. If he really wants to coach, he can. I don't know if he can get a plum job like Orlando, I mean the worst team in a bad division doesn't come knocking every day, but he'll land somewhere.

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53. "Mark Jackson got shafted, fine"
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but Steve Kerr is going to be a very good coach for a very long time. no need to deny that part of it to make your point

  

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55. "It's the same thing, though "
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>but Steve Kerr is going to be a very good coach for a very
>long time. no need to deny that part of it to make your point

He won't get to join a team on the way up, or get a
chance to finish what he started

He joined the Warriors when they were bad and made them
good

He put together that backcourt, he (according to Steph)
turned Steph in a well rounded playmaker, rather than
just a shooter

That's the black coach way, though, you don't get the
chances

Monty Williams doesn't get to coach Brow in his prime

Monty Williams gets fired for not doing better with a
team without it's point guard for most of the year

You had uncle tom ass BLACK people on here saying the Pelicans
should have been better than HOUSTON

It's racism, sorry

Meanwhile people were in here CRYING for Scott Brooks,
when he got to coach TWO MVP candidates at various points

NOT TO MENTION Ibaka


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56. "RE: It's the same thing, though "
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>>but Steve Kerr is going to be a very good coach for a very
>>long time. no need to deny that part of it to make your
>point
>
>He won't get to join a team on the way up, or get a
>chance to finish what he started
>
>He joined the Warriors when they were bad and made them
>good
>
>He put together that backcourt, he (according to Steph)
>turned Steph in a well rounded playmaker, rather than
>just a shooter
>
>That's the black coach way, though, you don't get the
>chances
>
>Monty Williams doesn't get to coach Brow in his prime
>
>Monty Williams gets fired for not doing better with a
>team without it's point guard for most of the year
>
>You had uncle tom ass BLACK people on here saying the Pelicans
>
>should have been better than HOUSTON
>
>It's racism, sorry
>
>Meanwhile people were in here CRYING for Scott Brooks,
>when he got to coach TWO MVP candidates at various points
>
>NOT TO MENTION Ibaka



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60. "ohhhh stfu with that hyperbole, NOBODY cried for Scott Brooks"
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and your statements about Williams imply a level of interest and knowledge about the Pelicans that exists among *maybe* five people on this board, all of whom had a pretty balanced opinion on his tenure as head coach.

you want to string everything together, one linear olympics of unfairness. the business has more to it than that.

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68. ""Linear olympics of unfairness." I like that. "
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> one linear olympics of
>unfairness. the business has more to it than that.

"linear olympics of unfairness."

You're correct.

The olympics of not liking black people is hardly
linear

It's exponential, and chaotic at times

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88. "true, but why choose a privileged person like mark jackson?"
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rich as fuck with the option between prestigious, lucractive, high-profile professions. is that argument that he can't get into the revolving door of less-than-greatness than Skiles has? he can, he has, he will be. i would focus more on a host of deserving first-time candidates, many and probably most of whom are black, that are being passed over for skiles, jackson, mike brown, terry stotts, et al. that seems like too much work for you though, so keep swiping at that low-hanging fruit (and missing).

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100. "That's actually the best way to study racism"
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>rich as fuck with the option between prestigious, lucractive,
>high-profile professions. is that argument that he can't get
>into the revolving door of less-than-greatness than Skiles
>has? he can, he has, he will be. i would focus more on a host
>of deserving first-time candidates, many and probably most of
>whom are black, that are being passed over for skiles,
>jackson, mike brown, terry stotts, et al. that seems like too
>much work for you though, so keep swiping at that low-hanging
>fruit (and missing).

It's the discrimination against obviously qualified black
folks that does the trick

It's clearer

He's one of the 10 best passers in league history, was a
TERRIBLE athlete, meaning he did it all with understanding
of the game....and yet white people still openly talk about
his lack of "basketball IQ"

It's fucking DISGUSTING.

  

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102. "See...even though we disagree about Monty we can build on this."
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I agree with everything you said.

Folks acted like Mark didn't know what the fuck he was doing. Yet, he could play for all of the teams he's played for and run offenses smoothly. Yet he has a low b-ball i.q.?

FOH

Same cats that tried to pretend Jason Kidd would struggle on some "How he get a job with no experience when he was just playing a few months ago?"

Cuz he's Jason Fucking Kidd and he knows more about basketball than 99% of people ever.

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103. "I bet if Stockton coached, NOBODY would talk about his IQ"
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And yet, Mark Jackson owed more of his success to IQ
than Stockton did his (Stockton was a vaaastly underrated
athlete who ran pick and roll for 20 years with a top 3
all time power forward...used quickness. Jackson was all
wits. All wits. )

As did Jason Kidd....Kidd's is an actual basketball savant

Niggas acting Brand new about Jason Kidd's ability to
run a team....umm...he had Popeye Jones eating extra
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109. "RE: See...even though we disagree about Monty we can build on this."
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I mean again, your resume as a player has very little if anything to do with coaching. Theoretically, Magic Johnson would be a much better coach than any of these guys if that were the case. He was not. Most stars are not, and most great coaches were marginal players (true in almost any sport). Furthermore, I am not seeing anyone saying Jackson was stupid or didn't understand basketball, more that he got in his own way and that the team didn't achieve its potential. Those hardly seem like controversial arguments.

With Kidd, I don't think anyone doubted he would ultimately be an excellent coach. He was a star who demonstrated incredible imagination, attention to detail and commitment to the game. The main question, including from people who covered him for 10+ years, was if he needed some sort of transition period, the kind that was helpful to others (including both Jackson and Kerr). Don't get swept up in this bullshit that absolves everyone of any blame. There can be racism and inept black coaches, sometimes one contributes, sometimes the other, sometimes both. But the narrative being carried here is a fabrication that's part of some really crazy broader agenda.

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108. "By that measure, Testaverde is one of the 10 best NFL passers ever"
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Just because Jackson and Andre Miller are in the top 10 all time in assists *does not* make them two of the 10 greatest passers. And again, what does the resume of a player have to do with being a coach? Furthermore, you're the one positing that Jackson's dismissal had to do with his "lack of basketball IQ." That's another one of your strawmen as far as I can see. Inability to implement consistently effective systems, inability to maximize talent and difficulties within his staff and the front office were all contributing factors. I didn't see anyone say he didn't know X and Os, did not have a basketball imagination, etc. Lacob's comments are probably what you're harping on, but he never said he was fired for that reason. You are taking that comment way out of context.

You can keep riding for these guys and continue with this Teflon notion that no matter how much they fail (and in some cases where others succeed/succeeded), some grand racial dynamic is actually at fault. It's a faulty argument to any ear, but you can keep shouting it, of course.

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82. "steve kerr is jus driving mark jacksons bus"
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>but Steve Kerr is going to be a very good coach for a very
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89. "twice as fast and right on time."
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54. "Great Hire "
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83. "this is a weird debate. pretty sure jax had zero interest in that job."
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it's not a great gig. they're several years away from contending,
and when they get there it'll likely be w/ the guy after whoever they hire now.

seriously doubt that jackson's in the market for that, he's trying
to wait on an opportunity w/ a team that's already gotten from A to B.
the guy's got a job, he can afford to bide his time.

on a side note, i don't get why ANY of these guys prefer coaching
over TV. those network gigs are straight kush, if i'm jax i'm in no rush
to get back. JVG need to holla at his lad.

with coaching, you're subject to the whims of superstar players,
you're dealing with constant second-guessing from ppl whose
experience and knowledge of the game pales in comparison with
yours by orders of magnitude, and if you make say 5 bad decisions
out of the 1000s that coaches make over the course of a season
you're out of a job. whereas somebody like barkley can say a dozen
dumb incorrect things every week and keep his gig for 15 years.

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101. "I'm not debating if its a good gig, if Jax wanted it, or if Jax is a gre..."
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But I am stating the surly universal dickhead white guy that nobody has ever liked keeps getting gigs. And it's not like he's a surly winner like Jerry Sloan.

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113. "has he been any less successful or less liked than jackson?"
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your OP answers affirmatively, but the answer to at least the first question is no and the answer to the second question seems to have been answered by at least two franchises so far.

he was a high 40s/low 50s win coach for several seasons and in different places. jackson was the same thing in GS. being more of a defensive minded coach and a hard ass, i can see where he'd be attractive as a bridge coach to some team looking for that. i wouldnt hire either one of them, personally.

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114. "In 13 seasons Skiles has been to the 2nd round twice."
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Won 50% of his games. Most wins in a season 51

Mark Jackson coached 3 years. Been to the 2nd round once.

He's won 52% of his games. Most wins in a season 51.

So yes, I would say he's been a better coach than Scott Skiles.

I would also say, you'd be harder pressed to find any former players that like Scott Skiles as opposed to Mark Jackson.

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116. "50% over 10+ seasons or 52% over three years .... that's not similar?"
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And an organization is more than just the guys on the bench.

Like I said, neither of them is appealing to me as a coaching hire but given the circumstances I get why the Magic are taking a long look at Skiles. I'd also understand if they were looking at Jackson and I have no idea if there is any interest there or if it would be mutual. The whole premise of your OP is flawed, like this is a 2K15 franchise and they simply have a list of coaches and prices to pick from. Jackson has turned down iffy gigs before (before he took the GS job, he turned down interviews for others) and he's in a position of strength with no real connection to the Magic. Conversely Skiles has been less picky, he is not really working now and he has connections to the Magic/lives in Orlando.

I mean, just because some middling coach is out there like Jackson, is there supposed to be a hiring freeze until he gets a job? Why wouldn't Skiles, a coach with similar success and reputation get that attention over the last two years? No one, least of all you, OE, et al, gave a shit if Skiles worked or not. I know I sure didn't. Similarly I don't care if Jackson works or not, I'm sure he will eventually but to play this up like egregious injustice is just a load of bullshit and that's the last thing I will say in this thread.

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119. "The premise of the OP, but you're insisting on being obtuse..."
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as if you're getting $.005 for every reply.

A middling white coach, who is universally disliked keeps getting coaching opportuntities. This will be his 4th team.

And a black coach who had 1 opportunity, who is liked, got one opportunity and now can't sniff a job.

2nd round once in 3 years. Playoffs 2 out of 3 versus Skiles 13 seasons of pretty much ehhh.

You can do math.

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122. "why do you assume this?"
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>And a black coach who ... now can't sniff a job.

that's my issue with this argument. it assumes that jackson has no agency or power.

i don't think he's lacking for opportunity. i'm pretty sure he's out
of coaching by choice, no different than van gundy.

mark jackson could be coaching now if he wanted to. dude is chilling.
he's not pressed. he enjoys TV and is waiting for the right job to open up.

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130. "Cuz he's not being mentioned for these gigs. "
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86. "NEWSFLASH: NBA Coaches get fired really quick"
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A lot of them right after they made it to the playoffs. Some even won Coach of the year the same year they are fired.
They know that's the way this business works nowadays.
Most of them stay in the league / return as HC at some point.
and no one really gives a fuck.
no one really gives a fuck about scott skiles or mark jackson returning as a HC.
not saying that they did a horrible job so far it's just that nobody really cares.

personally I was glad when Mark Jax got the gig just to have him off the air. my goodness.


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91. "and not to dwell on past missteps but this is a reminder for folks "
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needing some context on the Mark Jackson firing:
http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2014/12/11/7378787/racism-not-a-factor-in-golden-state-warriors-firing-mark-jackson

not saying that the firing was cool, definetly not racist or that this article paints the whole picture but some of the points made give you a hint that Jackson might have contributed some over-the-line stepping that was too much for the ownership.

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104. "Why talk about his "lack of understanding of Xs and Os" then? "
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If it's his personality JUST SAY IT

Don't talk all this shit about "lack of understanding"

It's racist

A white coach wouldn't get that criticism


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110. "That's not exactly what Lacob said."
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Lacob said numerous internal conflicts led to Jackson's dismissal and he reiterated that Jackson did a great job and he was grateful for it. He never said Jackson's inability to grasp the game played into it.

He did say Jackson was inexperienced as a coach (which is an indisputable fact), and that trying to hire experienced assistants for him was something that was met with resistance. That was not why he was dismissed in any direct or causal way.

Now, that was where he made the "Xs and Os," comments. He could have easily said "nuts and bolts" or "the intimacies of the coaching process" or whatever. His point was that he wanted to insulate Jackson somewhat because this was the first job he had as a coach or in management. He did not treat Kerr, who had front-office experience, any differently. He hired Alvin Gentry and Ron Adams, both of whom are very experienced coaches.

But please, keep crying and winning over weak-minded people who are too lazy to read. I am sure Lacob is terrified while his team is five wins from a championship and he counts his stacks of guap.

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115. "Nah, Xs and Os only means one thing, and you know it. "
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LMAO @ you trying to white-splain that

He was talking about Jackson's understanding of the game
and you know it.

Good thing Steph ETHERED THE SHIT out of his owner

Bwahahahahah @ him calling his owner "a distraction" and
praising his OLD COACH in the middle of the season

That's cuz Steph might be yeller but he know about racism,
he's low key with it

>But please, keep crying and winning over weak-minded people
>who are too lazy to read. I am sure Lacob is terrified while
>his team is five wins from a championship and he counts his
>stacks of guap.

Oh, Dubs winning easy

And plenty of terrible racists have money

Most people with a lot are probably racist, in fact

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117. "OK, dude"
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You read what was said, inferred what you wanted and started lying. I am done arguing with you, forever. Bye.

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121. "Apology accepted, don't let it happen again. "
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>You read what was said, inferred what you wanted and started
>lying. I am done arguing with you, forever. Bye.

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131. ""Now you pissed me off!""
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132. "what will you do if he gets ANOTHER job before Mark?"
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