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Basaglia
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"Tyus Jones will be better than Conley, Lawson and Rubio. "


  

          


anyone who disagrees, you keep that and i'll see you in 10 months.

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Subject Author Message Date ID
I cringed when his name was on the ticker for declaring
Apr 17th 2015
1
MARCUS PAIGE?!??! his grown ass ain't CLOSE to Tyus.
Apr 17th 2015
2
Paige? lol, cmon
Apr 17th 2015
5
wtf? he will be a first-round pick. where do you come up with this stuff...
Apr 17th 2015
10
      RE: where do you come up with this stuff?
Apr 17th 2015
14
           "I admittedly don't watch much college bball."
Apr 17th 2015
16
                RE: "I admittedly don't watch much college bball."
Apr 17th 2015
18
                     you're doing too much
Apr 17th 2015
24
                          I watched 10 mins of "Booty Call" & Jamie Foxx aint shit. Fuck his Oscar...
Apr 17th 2015
25
lol
Apr 17th 2015
3
Playing with house money? I don't see better than Conley.
Apr 17th 2015
4
I don't see Conley either.
Apr 17th 2015
6
      Rubio is a trash heap. I'll take my L for believing the hype.
Apr 17th 2015
7
           *smiling* @ "some steals"
Apr 17th 2015
9
                I was on some, "Look he ain't scared of Kobe!"
Apr 17th 2015
13
GENDA SEASON HAS RETURNED
Apr 17th 2015
8
Bassy Telfair Part Deux
Apr 17th 2015
11
Cmon ... Conley better
Apr 17th 2015
12
Half y'all cysed Napier and thought Kemba was Kyrie equal
Apr 17th 2015
15
Having watched Ed Davis for a full season, he's a solid player
Apr 17th 2015
19
He's a perfect 7/8th man on a championship team
Apr 17th 2015
21
      his ass sorry. whatever
Apr 18th 2015
33
           Except that he isn't
Apr 18th 2015
37
                man, i ain't giving nobody on the lakers a "good" pass
Apr 18th 2015
38
                     By that blanket logic, no one on the Cavs last season was "good" either
Apr 18th 2015
40
                          cool, except their all-star
Apr 18th 2015
41
                               Nope, not when using blanket logic based on team record
Apr 18th 2015
42
                                    right. i haven't seen ed davis play. go with that.
Apr 18th 2015
43
                                         Oh so you watched Laker games this year?
Apr 18th 2015
44
                                              i've watched ed davis since he was 16, dude. why you mad?
Apr 18th 2015
45
                                                   I never said he was the 7th/8th man, that was Ryan
Apr 18th 2015
46
Bennett, Rivers, Flynn(mine too)
Apr 17th 2015
20
yup, everyone got L's
Apr 17th 2015
22
99% of dudes on here get L's and don't own them.
Apr 17th 2015
23
He and I share the Jason Thompson L lol
Apr 18th 2015
34
Lebron cysed Napier the most. Address that, please n/m
Apr 18th 2015
30
when he posts here under the name LeBron James, I'll do that
Apr 18th 2015
35
Ain't no cyse...Kemba was better than Kyrie in College. LOL.
Jan 25th 2016
54
Hells Yes
Apr 17th 2015
17
grayson will be better
Apr 17th 2015
26
whole separate issue...grayson/staukus already an agenda.
Apr 17th 2015
27
      White Wade should not be compared to any jumpshootes.
Apr 18th 2015
31
           wasn't my agenda...it was brought to me and i accepted.
Apr 18th 2015
36
                ooh lawd he a Tebow JC superstar too!?!?!
Apr 19th 2015
47
                     he'll be better than lance, i know what much.
Apr 19th 2015
48
Better at what??
Apr 17th 2015
28
RE: Tyus Jones will be better than Conley, Lawson and Rubio.
Apr 17th 2015
29
i supported him after he got traded, upped the thread multiple times
Apr 18th 2015
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      http://i62.tinypic.com/2yxnsie.jpg
Apr 18th 2015
39
'Good Hair, Good Cross-Over, Good Mad-Making' (c)Basa
Apr 19th 2015
49
http://gfycat.com/TeemingEnragedHen
Apr 19th 2015
50
Lol, this dude battling it out with D league scrubs
Jan 25th 2016
51
He might become a decent 4th or 5th guard on a non-playoff team.
Jan 25th 2016
52
RE: Lol, this dude battling it out with D league scrubs
Jan 25th 2016
53
To be fair, he only played D-League for six games and killed.
Jan 25th 2016
56
      Not Barea good is not a diss. That's just where I see him...
Jan 25th 2016
57
      Yeah, but Barea is the backup on a good team.
Jan 25th 2016
58
           I don't see it.
Jan 25th 2016
61
      cool D-league numbers. its still the D-league
Jan 25th 2016
59
           ... except Craft stays in the D-League.
Jan 26th 2016
62
                "battling" as a synonym for playing against...not in the literal sense
Jan 26th 2016
63
wow, never saw this one. amazing work here.
Jan 25th 2016
55
Perpetually average...washed...a never-was. Tyus will walk this down
Jan 25th 2016
60
Tyus will be walking down many many NBA tunnels if he's lucky
Jan 26th 2016
64
10 months?
Jan 27th 2016
65
but he's jumping like crazy and playing great D.....
Jan 27th 2016
66
Outstanding game tonight vs LAL..really held his own out there
Feb 03rd 2016
67
Tyus is losing the battle for 3rd string PG to John Lucas III
Oct 18th 2016
68
http://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/03/-cringe-GIF.gif?gs=a
Oct 18th 2016
69
Damn.
Oct 18th 2016
70
kyrie got a ring.
Oct 18th 2016
71
.
Oct 18th 2016
72
kemba rhymes with goomba. it does.
Oct 18th 2016
74
relevant.
Oct 18th 2016
73
from Britt Robson - The Athletic (swipe)
Jan 03rd 2018
75
His defense has been so fun to watch this year
Jan 03rd 2018
76
^^^ KEEN PEEPOLOGY!!!
Jan 03rd 2018
77
will never be as good or better than Conley. Idc about the others
Jan 03rd 2018
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bentagain
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1. "I cringed when his name was on the ticker for declaring"
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if folks aren't projecting Marcus Paige as a first round pick

this kid shouldn't get drafted

best case scenario, he doesn't hire an agent

stay in school kid

LOL at the names in your OP though

I'm assuming you had a Conley agenda somewhere along the line

here's your L

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Basaglia
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2. "MARCUS PAIGE?!??! his grown ass ain't CLOSE to Tyus. "
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Kyrie: I wasn't.


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Frank Longo
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5. "Paige? lol, cmon "
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Tyus is definitely better suited for the league than Paige.

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10. "wtf? he will be a first-round pick. where do you come up with this stuff..."
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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14. "RE: where do you come up with this stuff?"
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Fri Apr-17-15 02:30 PM by bentagain

  

          

I watch games and form an opinion.

for a Duke stan

a Jones/Paige agenda, totally acceptable

esplain to me where in the fuck Mike Conley comes into this equation?

so 5 years from now when Tyus Jones is a backup PG

we can up another L Ba agenda

same dude that said Quinn Cook was better than Trey Burke while he was winning POTY and playing in the title game

fuck that

I'm calling L today and saying this kid should stay in school

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Frank Longo
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16. ""I admittedly don't watch much college bball.""
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>I watch games and form an opinion.

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18. "RE: "I admittedly don't watch much college bball.""
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I don't

compared to ya'll

claiming players and starting agendas on toddlers

my opinion is based on the games I watched

Marcus Paige had some great play in both the ACC and NCAA tourneys

obviously Ty Jones showed out in the title game

but from the other games I saw him play

best I could say is he passed the ball to Okafor real well.

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24. "you're doing too much"
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>I don't
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>compared to ya'll
>
>claiming players and starting agendas on toddlers

toddlers? cmon..most CBB aficionados start paying attention to recruits around 16/17...aka high school juniors. Maybe earlier if a kid is from your city or if he went to your high school alma mater



>obviously Ty Jones showed out in the title game
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>but from the other games I saw him play
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>best I could say is he passed the ball to Okafor real well.


smh dude hit clutch shots/made key plays for them ALL SEASON long


marcus paige is a good player not comparable

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25. "I watched 10 mins of "Booty Call" & Jamie Foxx aint shit. Fuck his Oscar..."
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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3. "lol"
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4. "Playing with house money? I don't see better than Conley. "
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I've said before, if I have a son he gonna get a diet of Mike Conley film.

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6. "I don't see Conley either."
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And I'm staying away from Lawson after I underrated him brutally coming into the league. No more Lawson-related agendas.

Rubio could be attainable, if only because Rubio's advantage on D isn't as great as Tyus' advantage with a jumper.

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7. "Rubio is a trash heap. I'll take my L for believing the hype."
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I read that Slam article or whatever. Then saw some tape. Then the Olympics where he got some steals.

Nah, he's garbage.

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9. "*smiling* @ "some steals""
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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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13. "I was on some, "Look he ain't scared of Kobe!""
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Smh.. he is horrible.

Zach gonna have to Gina Gershon him down those stairs though now that he has the long term deal.

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8. "GENDA SEASON HAS RETURNED"
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11. "Bassy Telfair Part Deux"
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Nah sike

He good

Mike Bibby 0.85, which is good

I'm about to have one of those coconut water + espresso
drinks + a soy beef jerky, pause

Makes for a great travel snack


  

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12. "Cmon ... Conley better"
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I am just praying Rubio can stay healthy one of these years but for now you won that one, although not really vis-a-vis Jennings (started to not be ass, got hurt himself).

I dunno about Jones vs Lawson, I will leave that to the UNC contingent to fight out though. I don't care.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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Basaglia
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15. "Half y'all cysed Napier and thought Kemba was Kyrie equal"
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y'all should know by now I don't value your opinions. See, stuff that like that gets swept under the rug too often around here and then I'm supposed to cower in fear over cysing Anthony Bennett.

maaaaan, y'all let me know when trey burke become anything, because y'all cysed him too.

i'm still waitin on SPM to be held accountable for joe alexander and luke babbit.

where's the terrance williams crew?

them anthony randolph boys?

ed davis?

oh.


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Kyrie: I wasn't.


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19. "Having watched Ed Davis for a full season, he's a solid player "
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Still no fluidity around the rim though...no idea what the expectations were for him though

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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L D E A

  

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21. "He's a perfect 7/8th man on a championship team"
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33. "his ass sorry. whatever"
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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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37. "Except that he isn't "
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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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38. "man, i ain't giving nobody on the lakers a "good" pass"
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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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40. "By that blanket logic, no one on the Cavs last season was "good" either "
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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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41. "cool, except their all-star"
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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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LA2Philly
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42. "Nope, not when using blanket logic based on team record "
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Anyways the point is Ed Davis isn't trash or anything close to it. If you'd seen him play, you'd know that.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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43. "right. i haven't seen ed davis play. go with that. "
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we can just disagree on the degree to which ed davis could help an actual contender. you don't have to resort to "watch the games."

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44. "Oh so you watched Laker games this year? "
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You may have legitimately been the only non-Laker fan watching, appreciate the support

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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45. "i've watched ed davis since he was 16, dude. why you mad?"
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yes, i watched the lakers this year, as i do every year. ain't much changed about ed davis, dude. no idea why you cysin him so hard, but he's not a damn 7th or 8th man on a title team. i disagree with that.

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46. "I never said he was the 7th/8th man, that was Ryan"
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I'm disputing your assessment of him being "sorry", that has nothing to do with being mad. He does a lot of good things especially on the weak-side of a defense and on the boards, his offensive fluidity and effectiveness is a serious issue though.

That being said...honestly not sure why you spent time watching this team lol. Davis and Clarkson were my lone bright spots...but I do question how the latter will contribute when he can't dominate the ball like he could this season

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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20. "Bennett, Rivers, Flynn(mine too)"
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Cmon, you got your share like everyone else.

You get called on it the most because you make such a scene in hyping them that everyone remembers.......Bennett better than LJ, Rivers rookie of the year, etc.

  

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22. "yup, everyone got L's"
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except me of course.

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23. "99% of dudes on here get L's and don't own them. "
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They fade right into the shrub like the Homer gif.

Or they half step on a ledge, then claim glory with a W.

We need an ongoing L post. Anchored. Fess up. Take your L and K.I.M.

I got a lot.

I mean a lot a lot. Like you didn't think I thought Derrick Williams would be good when he was doing those NBA Street dunks in the NCAA tournament?

Now he looking like a strong jawed backpack rapper from 1992.

Of him alone, I refuse to rock with any Pac-10 California looking dude.

But I have way more W's.

So it doesn't matter.

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34. "He and I share the Jason Thompson L lol"
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I had to ride for him for sentimental reasons (pops was a Bronco) but I did think he'd be better.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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30. "Lebron cysed Napier the most. Address that, please n/m"
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----------------------------



O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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35. "when he posts here under the name LeBron James, I'll do that"
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otherwise, the regular OKS posters who cysed shabazz are morons.

obviously, tyus better than his dumb ass, too.

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54. "Ain't no cyse...Kemba was better than Kyrie in College. LOL."
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17. "Hells Yes"
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26. "grayson will be better"
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numbers look crooked like king kong shook it - jdilla

  

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27. "whole separate issue...grayson/staukus already an agenda. "
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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31. "White Wade should not be compared to any jumpshootes. "
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I want him compared to predominants, or bust


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36. "wasn't my agenda...it was brought to me and i accepted. "
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i compared him to westbrook in HS, so...

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47. "ooh lawd he a Tebow JC superstar too!?!?!"
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This gonna be REALLY entertaining

  

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48. "he'll be better than lance, i know what much. "
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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28. "Better at what??"
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Surely not the game of basketball

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29. "RE: Tyus Jones will be better than Conley, Lawson and Rubio. "
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32. "i supported him after he got traded, upped the thread multiple times"
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so, there's that.

____________________________________________________


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39. "http://i62.tinypic.com/2yxnsie.jpg"
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http://i62.tinypic.com/2yxnsie.jpg

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49. "'Good Hair, Good Cross-Over, Good Mad-Making' (c)Basa"
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sounded brilliant and eloquent at the time, but later was exposed as a moronic agenda.

it's too soon to try again. you should be banned from 'light skinned guard from Duke'agendas for at least another 5 years. SHHHHHHHHHH

f.o.h.

  

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50. "http://gfycat.com/TeemingEnragedHen"
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http://gfycat.com/TeemingEnragedHen

  

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51. "Lol, this dude battling it out with D league scrubs"
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he will *never ever* be better than lawson or rubio.

let alone conley.

another horrible prognostication

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52. "He might become a decent 4th or 5th guard on a non-playoff team. "
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Never will be J.J. Barea good

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53. "RE: Lol, this dude battling it out with D league scrubs"
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I didn't even see this....wow....

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56. "To be fair, he only played D-League for six games and killed."
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25/4/5 in his six games. He's 19 years old.

He's just been on the Minnesota bench inactive the majority of the season because they have a glut of PGs and Tyus just isn't ready like that quite yet. Because, again, he's 19.

Lawson and Conley were cyses, I agreed above... but I wouldn't party on the downfall of Jones just yet. I think TRBO calling him "not Barea good/4th or 5th guard on a bad team"-- yeah, too soon to make that call, imo. Way too soon.

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57. "Not Barea good is not a diss. That's just where I see him..."
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if he stays in the NBA.

J.J. is pretty solid in his role. I see Tyus below that. Kinda like Shane Larkin's future.

A smaller guard that doesn't have any standout ability to get to the rim or shoot or terrific vision.

He won't be a starter in the league. Unless the team is like Sixers bad.

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58. "Yeah, but Barea is the backup on a good team."
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I think Jones can be backup-on-a-good-team good. Barea has done, what, 9 and 5? something like that? I think Jones could do that.

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61. "I don't see it. "
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59. "cool D-league numbers. its still the D-league"
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same league aaron craft plays in.

.. but I wouldn't
>party on the downfall of Jones just yet.

i dont really care about tyus downfall or rise to superstardom (he'll still never be as good as Lawson or Conley...maybe he'll be better than rubio. Yay.)

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62. "... except Craft stays in the D-League."
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>same league aaron craft plays in.

Jones did a 6-game stint. Came right back. He's just not getting minutes.

>.. but I wouldn't
>>party on the downfall of Jones just yet.
>
>i dont really care about tyus downfall or rise to superstardom
>(he'll still never be as good as Lawson or Conley...maybe
>he'll be better than rubio. Yay.)

Yeah, that's fine. I just took umbrage with the idea that he's just another D-League scrub. He was the youngest D-League player so far this season (according to the roster of players who were in the D-League that I could find on their website)-- went in, immediately owned the competition, went back to the pros.

He's above the D-League. That's why he was barely there. That's why he's been on the bench in Minnesota damn near all season. Learning. The way a young player should.

I don't care about Ba's silly cyse agenda here. Just pointing out that any implication that he's been battling in the D-League or that he's on that level... well, just isn't really accurate. That's all.

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63. ""battling" as a synonym for playing against...not in the literal sense"
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i glanced and saw the words "Developmental League"...and lost all further interest. Good for him though lol.

>I don't care about Ba's silly cyse agenda here.

glad u agree.

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55. "wow, never saw this one. amazing work here."
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60. "Perpetually average...washed...a never-was. Tyus will walk this down"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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64. "Tyus will be walking down many many NBA tunnels if he's lucky"
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I wouldnt be surprised if he ends up in Turkey , France or Spain.

fwiw FC Barcelona Bàsquet has a beautiful facility

Zeke agrees with you btw re: Conley

http://www.nba.com/video/channels/nba_tv/2014/10/17/20141017-season-preview-mem-conley.nba/

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65. "10 months? "
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it's been 9 and he can't get on the floor, cause he ain't ready.

Better than Ricky? Not in the next 4 or 5 years he ain't.

  

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66. "but he's jumping like crazy and playing great D....."
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...on NBA2k16


>it's been 9 and he can't get on the floor, cause he ain't
>ready.
>
>Better than Ricky? Not in the next 4 or 5 years he ain't.

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67. "Outstanding game tonight vs LAL..really held his own out there"
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he looked like a natural handing out towels & cups of gatorade.



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68. "Tyus is losing the battle for 3rd string PG to John Lucas III"
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When you lose your job to a guy with a roman numeral next to his name it's an EXTRA bad look.

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69. "http://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/03/-cringe-GIF.gif?gs=a"
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70. "Damn."
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71. "kyrie got a ring. "
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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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72. "."
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74. "kemba rhymes with goomba. it does. "
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Kyrie: I wasn't.


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73. "relevant."
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___________________

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75. "from Britt Robson - The Athletic (swipe)"
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The miraculous makeover of defender Tyus Jones

Aside from the obvious fact that the Wolves keep hammering out victories, a primary reason why the team is in such a collectively happy space recently is because Tyus Jones is spreading his infectious pluck and generosity alongside the starters more frequently. To say that he has stepped in for the injured Teague without a hitch actually understates his value.

Although he has always been a savant as a floor general, with a noticeably acute sense of pace, rhythm, space and angles in the half-court offense, Tyus was flat-out physically overmatched when he came into the league as a scrawny teenager in the autumn of 2015. There simply wasn’t enough sinew to prevent him from being exploited during any on-ball defense he was compelled to execute out on the perimeter, and, inevitably, into the paint.

I don’t watch the college or high school game, and thus was only aware by hearsay of his heroic stints at Duke and Apple Valley. But I vividly remember being charmed by his poise and ingenuity against daunting physical odds during his rookie season, and dismissive of any chance of him becoming a starting caliber point guard due to his sinew-deficient defense.

Whether or not Tyus can be a functional starter at the point for an NBA playoff team is a viable debate, I suppose, but my original estimates of his ceiling and his floor as a player were such gross miscalculations that I’m inclined to give him the benefit of most any doubt.

Those doubts, by the way, are diminishing by the minute. Tyus has some eye-popping statistics on his side. Right now, on paper, he is at worst an invaluable role player, and trending toward the fringes of stardom.

Tyus utilizes the principles of billiards and judo to surmount the defensive mismatches of yore. He deploys his extraordinary court vision and dedicated hoop scholarship to assess the angles, obstacles and parameters within his zone of coverage and rotational responsibility, and then uses the momentum of his opponent’s physical and mental activity against him to get steals and stops, and to minimize instances where a player can back him down with crab-dribbles or arm-barred straight-line penetration toward the hoop.

In on-ball defense, his quick feet scrabble to cut down the angle and position himself to draw the charge; or he’ll dance laterally just enough to create open space for a forward lunge that produces a poke-check steal or deflection. On the pick-and-roll, he exercises his typically superb judgment on when to go over or under the pick, when to exaggerate contact and goad the screen-foul, and how to give and accept help on the trap or the switch. In transition or otherwise caught in space, he turns an apparent weakness into a virtue as well as anyone in the NBA, performing like a football free safety with a nose for interceptions (via immediate aggression, or lulling then pouncing) or simply discouraging the most predictably injurious option an opponent could inflict on his team.

This is how a player who did not look like he belonged on an NBA court at the defensive end less than three years ago transformed himself into a defensive weapon — flawed, certainly, in certain circumstances, but lethal to opposing offenses in others.

About those eye-popping numbers: Jones currently ranks 190th in the NBA in minutes played and yet is 23rd in steals and 26th in deflections. Only Paul George of OKC has more deflections per minute-played than Tyus. Nobody has more steals per minute-played.

So, he’s just a puny jitterbug smart enough to know that reckless gambling is his best stratagem, eh? Nope.

There is a section on the NBA.com stats page entitled “defensive dashboard,” that compares the shooting percentage of an opponent a player is defending to the normal shooting percentage under those circumstances. Under this metric, negative numbers are good, because they represent how less accurate a typical shooter is when defended by the defender being measured.

Tyus has more than proven his mettle defending “off the ball” via his steals and deflections. The defensive dashboard is a solid, but not definitive, rating of on-ball defensive prowess.

When it comes to an overall rating on the dashboard, Tyus ranks second on the team among all defenders on the roster. Taj Gibson is first, allowing a field goal percentage that is minus-2.1 percentage points below the norm. Tyus is next at minus-0.3, just ahead of Jimmy Butler at minus-0.2.

If you imagine that is a horribly flawed formula, well, the rest of team sort of corresponds to the eye test. After Gibson, Jones and Butler is Towns at plus 1.0 percentage points allowed compared to a typical defender under the circumstances, then Andrew Wiggins at plus-1.7, Gorgui Dieng at plus-2.9, Teague at plus-4.7, and on up to Jamal Crawford at plus-7.8, Bazzy Muhammad at plus-11.6 and Aaron Brooks at 16.5.

Part of Tyus’s gaudy number comes from his ability to defend against three-pointers, which in reality is more capricious than, say, a post-up. Opponents shoot a whopping 12 points less accurately from deep than they do versus a normal defender (or under typical circumstances, take your pick on the description of the mean).

But even defending shots taken less than six feet from the hoop, Tyus leads all the Wolves backcourt personnel at plus-5.4 percent above accuracy, followed by Butler at plus-9.2, Teague at plus-12.0 and Marcus Georges-Hunt at plus-12.6. (Towns is a team-best minus-3.5 points on what amounts to accuracy of shots in the paint, followed by Dieng at minus-2.6 and Gibson and minus-0.5.)

Bottom line, by the numbers, Tyus has been an elite disrupter of passes and a better than average on-ball defender thus far this season.

Mr. Synergy

So much for the supposed flaws in Tyus’ game; let’s get to the virtues. When running the offense, he is a pass-first point guard who nevertheless takes extraordinary care of the ball.

There are just two players on the entire Wolves roster that commit fewer turnovers per minute than Tyus. One is Shabazz Muhammad, who almost always shoots, thus technically reducing the option of a turnover (although an unrebounded missed shot obviously ends the possession too). The other is Georges-Hunt, who barely touches the ball, making the turnover factor moot.

By contrast, Tyus is second only to Teague in assists generated per minute, meaning his chances of committing a turnover are very high. Consequently, among regular rotation players in the entire NBA, Tyus is second to Spencer Dinwiddie of Brooklyn in assist-to-turnover ratio.

Here’s where the eyes really begin to pop on Tyus’s stats. After 38 games of the season as an NBA point guard, he is the only player with twice as many steals as turnovers. The only folks even close are active wing players who almost never initiate the offense, like Thad Young of Indiana, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope of the Lakers, Trevor Ariza of Houston and Otto Porter of Washington.

Or, put another way, for every turnover Tyus commits, he forces his opponents to commit more than twice as many.

Tyus might commit even fewer miscues if he regularly played with the starters, who have more group continuity and talent than the reserves (somewhat mitigated by opposing the talented starters on the other team). In his six games filling in for Teague at different interims this season, his assist to turnover ratio is 9-to-1 at 36-to-4. (His steals per turnover ratio as a starter is 22-to-4!)

This is not meant as a plea to play Tyus over Teague when the latter gets healthy. There are arguments on behalf of Teague that don’t even include the inconvenient fact that he is getting $19 million per year for the next three seasons, while Tyus pulls down less than $4 million total over the next two years. But for now, suffice to say that when Tyus plays with the other four starters thus far this season, the results are magnificent.

Let’s just take the month of December, because it has the handy benefit of producing exactly 48 minutes of the starters-plus Tyus together, which is the length of a typical NBA game. During December, that quintet had an offensive rating (points scored per 100 possessions) of 132.4 and a defensive rating (points allowed per 100 possessions) of 90.7.

Given that 100 possessions is a rough estimate of a typical NBA game pace and the minutes are 48, you could accurately say that when Tyus played with the other starters during the month of December, the Wolves beat their opponents by an average of 132 to 91 per game.

Jimmy Butler, the alpha in the locker room, has a stall right next to Tyus and clearly treasures the chance to nurture him with encouraging words. After Monday night’s wire-to-wire win over the Lakers, when Tyus was a game-best plus-23 in 27:12 minutes of action (meaning the Wolves were minus-5 in the 20:48 Tyus didn’t play), Butler again waxed, beginning with exaggerated praise that has become something of a running joke between Butler, Tyus and the media.

“He’s the most outstanding player as I’ve said over and over again,” Butler cracked. Then, more seriously, “Tyus is huge. Everybody loves playing with him, because he is so unselfish, to a fault sometimes. He knows all the plays from every position. He is competing. And he wants to win. That’s all you can ask for out of a teammate.”

Butler also repeated something Tyus himself has noted. “We always tell him, if you’re open, shoot. Be aggressive.” Given that his true shooting percentage has climbed from 45 to 52.3 up to its current 58.7 in his three NBA seasons, it is sound advice.

But one suspects that Tyus’ point total will be the last thing he feeds. He used to be a feel-good story because he was an undersized kid from the neighborhood. Now he’s a feel-good story because he makes everyone associated with the Wolves franchise feel good.

  

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78. "will never be as good or better than Conley. Idc about the others"
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>The miraculous makeover of defender Tyus Jones
>
>Aside from the obvious fact that the Wolves keep hammering out
>victories, a primary reason why the team is in such a
>collectively happy space recently is because Tyus Jones is
>spreading his infectious pluck and generosity alongside the
>starters more frequently. To say that he has stepped in for
>the injured Teague without a hitch actually understates his
>value.
>
>Although he has always been a savant as a floor general, with
>a noticeably acute sense of pace, rhythm, space and angles in
>the half-court offense, Tyus was flat-out physically
>overmatched when he came into the league as a scrawny teenager
>in the autumn of 2015. There simply wasn’t enough sinew to
>prevent him from being exploited during any on-ball defense he
>was compelled to execute out on the perimeter, and,
>inevitably, into the paint.
>
>I don’t watch the college or high school game, and thus was
>only aware by hearsay of his heroic stints at Duke and Apple
>Valley. But I vividly remember being charmed by his poise and
>ingenuity against daunting physical odds during his rookie
>season, and dismissive of any chance of him becoming a
>starting caliber point guard due to his sinew-deficient
>defense.
>
>Whether or not Tyus can be a functional starter at the point
>for an NBA playoff team is a viable debate, I suppose, but my
>original estimates of his ceiling and his floor as a player
>were such gross miscalculations that I’m inclined to give
>him the benefit of most any doubt.
>
>Those doubts, by the way, are diminishing by the minute. Tyus
>has some eye-popping statistics on his side. Right now, on
>paper, he is at worst an invaluable role player, and trending
>toward the fringes of stardom.
>
>Tyus utilizes the principles of billiards and judo to surmount
>the defensive mismatches of yore. He deploys his extraordinary
>court vision and dedicated hoop scholarship to assess the
>angles, obstacles and parameters within his zone of coverage
>and rotational responsibility, and then uses the momentum of
>his opponent’s physical and mental activity against him to
>get steals and stops, and to minimize instances where a player
>can back him down with crab-dribbles or arm-barred
>straight-line penetration toward the hoop.
>
>In on-ball defense, his quick feet scrabble to cut down the
>angle and position himself to draw the charge; or he’ll
>dance laterally just enough to create open space for a forward
>lunge that produces a poke-check steal or deflection. On the
>pick-and-roll, he exercises his typically superb judgment on
>when to go over or under the pick, when to exaggerate contact
>and goad the screen-foul, and how to give and accept help on
>the trap or the switch. In transition or otherwise caught in
>space, he turns an apparent weakness into a virtue as well as
>anyone in the NBA, performing like a football free safety with
>a nose for interceptions (via immediate aggression, or lulling
>then pouncing) or simply discouraging the most predictably
>injurious option an opponent could inflict on his team.
>
>This is how a player who did not look like he belonged on an
>NBA court at the defensive end less than three years ago
>transformed himself into a defensive weapon — flawed,
>certainly, in certain circumstances, but lethal to opposing
>offenses in others.
>
>About those eye-popping numbers: Jones currently ranks 190th
>in the NBA in minutes played and yet is 23rd in steals and
>26th in deflections. Only Paul George of OKC has more
>deflections per minute-played than Tyus. Nobody has more
>steals per minute-played.
>
>So, he’s just a puny jitterbug smart enough to know that
>reckless gambling is his best stratagem, eh? Nope.
>
>There is a section on the NBA.com stats page entitled
>“defensive dashboard,” that compares the shooting
>percentage of an opponent a player is defending to the normal
>shooting percentage under those circumstances. Under this
>metric, negative numbers are good, because they represent how
>less accurate a typical shooter is when defended by the
>defender being measured.
>
>Tyus has more than proven his mettle defending “off the
>ball” via his steals and deflections. The defensive
>dashboard is a solid, but not definitive, rating of on-ball
>defensive prowess.
>
>When it comes to an overall rating on the dashboard, Tyus
>ranks second on the team among all defenders on the roster.
>Taj Gibson is first, allowing a field goal percentage that is
>minus-2.1 percentage points below the norm. Tyus is next at
>minus-0.3, just ahead of Jimmy Butler at minus-0.2.
>
>If you imagine that is a horribly flawed formula, well, the
>rest of team sort of corresponds to the eye test. After
>Gibson, Jones and Butler is Towns at plus 1.0 percentage
>points allowed compared to a typical defender under the
>circumstances, then Andrew Wiggins at plus-1.7, Gorgui Dieng
>at plus-2.9, Teague at plus-4.7, and on up to Jamal Crawford
>at plus-7.8, Bazzy Muhammad at plus-11.6 and Aaron Brooks at
>16.5.
>
>Part of Tyus’s gaudy number comes from his ability to defend
>against three-pointers, which in reality is more capricious
>than, say, a post-up. Opponents shoot a whopping 12 points
>less accurately from deep than they do versus a normal
>defender (or under typical circumstances, take your pick on
>the description of the mean).
>
>But even defending shots taken less than six feet from the
>hoop, Tyus leads all the Wolves backcourt personnel at
>plus-5.4 percent above accuracy, followed by Butler at
>plus-9.2, Teague at plus-12.0 and Marcus Georges-Hunt at
>plus-12.6. (Towns is a team-best minus-3.5 points on what
>amounts to accuracy of shots in the paint, followed by Dieng
>at minus-2.6 and Gibson and minus-0.5.)
>
>Bottom line, by the numbers, Tyus has been an elite disrupter
>of passes and a better than average on-ball defender thus far
>this season.
>
>Mr. Synergy
>
>So much for the supposed flaws in Tyus’ game; let’s get to
>the virtues. When running the offense, he is a pass-first
>point guard who nevertheless takes extraordinary care of the
>ball.
>
>There are just two players on the entire Wolves roster that
>commit fewer turnovers per minute than Tyus. One is Shabazz
>Muhammad, who almost always shoots, thus technically reducing
>the option of a turnover (although an unrebounded missed shot
>obviously ends the possession too). The other is Georges-Hunt,
>who barely touches the ball, making the turnover factor moot.
>
>By contrast, Tyus is second only to Teague in assists
>generated per minute, meaning his chances of committing a
>turnover are very high. Consequently, among regular rotation
>players in the entire NBA, Tyus is second to Spencer Dinwiddie
>of Brooklyn in assist-to-turnover ratio.
>
>Here’s where the eyes really begin to pop on Tyus’s stats.
>After 38 games of the season as an NBA point guard, he is the
>only player with twice as many steals as turnovers. The only
>folks even close are active wing players who almost never
>initiate the offense, like Thad Young of Indiana, Kentavious
>Caldwell-Pope of the Lakers, Trevor Ariza of Houston and Otto
>Porter of Washington.
>
>Or, put another way, for every turnover Tyus commits, he
>forces his opponents to commit more than twice as many.
>
>Tyus might commit even fewer miscues if he regularly played
>with the starters, who have more group continuity and talent
>than the reserves (somewhat mitigated by opposing the talented
>starters on the other team). In his six games filling in for
>Teague at different interims this season, his assist to
>turnover ratio is 9-to-1 at 36-to-4. (His steals per turnover
>ratio as a starter is 22-to-4!)
>
>This is not meant as a plea to play Tyus over Teague when the
>latter gets healthy. There are arguments on behalf of Teague
>that don’t even include the inconvenient fact that he is
>getting $19 million per year for the next three seasons, while
>Tyus pulls down less than $4 million total over the next two
>years. But for now, suffice to say that when Tyus plays with
>the other four starters thus far this season, the results are
>magnificent.
>
>Let’s just take the month of December, because it has the
>handy benefit of producing exactly 48 minutes of the
>starters-plus Tyus together, which is the length of a typical
>NBA game. During December, that quintet had an offensive
>rating (points scored per 100 possessions) of 132.4 and a
>defensive rating (points allowed per 100 possessions) of
>90.7.
>
>Given that 100 possessions is a rough estimate of a typical
>NBA game pace and the minutes are 48, you could accurately say
>that when Tyus played with the other starters during the month
>of December, the Wolves beat their opponents by an average of
>132 to 91 per game.
>
>Jimmy Butler, the alpha in the locker room, has a stall right
>next to Tyus and clearly treasures the chance to nurture him
>with encouraging words. After Monday night’s wire-to-wire
>win over the Lakers, when Tyus was a game-best plus-23 in
>27:12 minutes of action (meaning the Wolves were minus-5 in
>the 20:48 Tyus didn’t play), Butler again waxed, beginning
>with exaggerated praise that has become something of a running
>joke between Butler, Tyus and the media.
>
>“He’s the most outstanding player as I’ve said over and
>over again,” Butler cracked. Then, more seriously, “Tyus
>is huge. Everybody loves playing with him, because he is so
>unselfish, to a fault sometimes. He knows all the plays from
>every position. He is competing. And he wants to win. That’s
>all you can ask for out of a teammate.”
>
>Butler also repeated something Tyus himself has noted. “We
>always tell him, if you’re open, shoot. Be aggressive.”
>Given that his true shooting percentage has climbed from 45 to
>52.3 up to its current 58.7 in his three NBA seasons, it is
>sound advice.
>
>But one suspects that Tyus’ point total will be the last
>thing he feeds. He used to be a feel-good story because he was
>an undersized kid from the neighborhood. Now he’s a
>feel-good story because he makes everyone associated with the
>Wolves franchise feel good.

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