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"I'ma need Half them Crab Legs Up Out Ya (link)"
Fri Apr-17-15 11:22 AM by DVS

  

          

At the risk of sounding insensitive....my mind is saying that this is a cash grab. Winston has a history of doing stupid shit....but none of them have strayed into violence. I could be wrong....but shorty is making ALL the media rounds and the lawyers in the (dismissed) criminal case called the civil suit straight out.

There is never a right response in these shits, tho....you come out for the accused and you're a woman hater. **yeshrug**

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http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12704386/woman-accused-former-florida-state-qb-jameis-winston-2012-rape-files-civil-lawsuit

Woman who accused QB Jameis Winston of 2012 rape files civil lawsuit
3h - College Football Florida St Seminoles

Mark Schlabach, College Football Reporter


The woman who accused former Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston of raping her in December 2012 filed a civil lawsuit against him Thursday in a Florida state court in Orlando.

In the lawsuit filed in Ninth Judicial Circuit Court, Erica Kinsman, the former FSU student who said Winston sexually assaulted her in his off-campus apartment, accused Winston of sexual battery, assault, false imprisonment and intentional infliction of emotional distress.

In the lawsuit, Kinsman's attorneys, David King of Orlando and Baine Kerr and John Clune of Boulder, Colorado, are demanding damages in excess of $15,000 and "the right to seek leave as to her entitlement to punitive damages." Her attorneys also demanded a jury trial.
Jameis Winston, shown here attending his December student code of conduct hearing, is being sued by the woman who accused him of raping her in 2012. AP Images/Don Juan Moore

According to the lawsuit, Winston's "conduct was extreme and outrageous and caused Plaintiff to suffer severe mental anguish and suffering, including, more specifically, loss of sleep, flashbacks, severe anxiety, fear of repeat sexual violence, an unfounded sense of shame and depression, all of which will continue to require psychological and other counseling."

"Erica hopes to show other survivors the strength and empowerment that can come from refusing to stay silent no matter what forces are against you," Clune said in a statement. "Jameis Winston in contrast has proven time and time again to be an entitled athlete who believes he can take what he wants. He took something here that he was not entitled to and he hurt someone. There are consequences for that behavior and since others have refused to hold him accountable, our client will."

Winston's attorney, David Cornwell, wasn't surprised by the civil lawsuit.

"This stunt was expected. Ms. Kinsman's false accusations have already been exposed and rejected six times. This time will be no different," Cornwell said. "Mr. Winston welcomes the opportunity to clear his name with the truth. ... He will not permit this ploy to distract him as he begins the journey of fulfilling his lifelong dream of being a championship quarterback in the National Football League."

Winston, the 2013 Heisman Trophy winner who is expected to be among the first players chosen in this year's NFL draft, was never criminally charged in the alleged incident. State attorney Willie Meggs declined to charge Winston after investigating the alleged incident in November 2013, and former Florida Supreme Court Chief Justice Major Harding ruled in December that the evidence was insufficient to find Winston responsible for four violations of the university's student conduct code.

In the civil suit, Kinsman will be required to prove her case by a preponderance of the evidence, meaning a juror must believe her version of events more than Winston's. The burden of proof is lower than what is required in criminal court for a conviction, where the prosecution must prove the case "beyond a reasonable doubt."

According to the transcripts of the FSU disciplinary hearing, Winston and Kinsman provided starkly differing accounts of what occurred in December 2012. Winston says the sex was consensual. Kinsman, after being taken back to campus by Winston that night, went to a hospital, where a rape test was performed. Harding said in his judgment that he could not choose one version over the other.

"I do not find the credibility of one story substantially stronger than that of the other," Harding wrote. "Both have their own strengths and weaknesses."

Kinsman's attorneys also filed a federal lawsuit against the university in January. Kinsman alleged that she was subjected to a sexually hostile environment and that Florida State's "responses to the harassment were clearly unreasonable." In March, the school's board of trustees filed a motion to have the lawsuit dismissed.

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this post is kinda tasteles
Apr 17th 2015
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yeah because he's obviously guilty
Apr 17th 2015
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Welcome to the wonderful world of Winston defenders
Apr 20th 2015
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It's a sad situation in every way.
Apr 17th 2015
2
Problem, again, is in the uneven focus
Apr 17th 2015
4
Indeed.
Apr 20th 2015
18
that's kind of where I'm at
Apr 17th 2015
5
Man, that Dave Chappelle Sex Contract Skit Looks Realer and Realer
Apr 17th 2015
9
      "...Michael...why is there a film crew in your bedroom?"
Apr 17th 2015
11
Well said.
Apr 17th 2015
16
damn they need to let this ish go.
Apr 17th 2015
6
They probably would have after his 1st season
Apr 17th 2015
7
TPD needed to not act like complete fuckups and fanboys
Apr 17th 2015
14
But are the Bucs still taking Jameis #1 Overall???
Apr 17th 2015
8
Lovie Smith is the best place for him to land
Apr 17th 2015
10
yeah.
Apr 17th 2015
13
i wish they wouldn't. i want him on the Titans.
Apr 17th 2015
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lesson i learned from Paterno: i don't know shit about shit
Apr 17th 2015
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Its not the girl, isn't it her Aunt? Her aunt is a state prosecutor.
Apr 18th 2015
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Re
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1. "this post is kinda tasteles"
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3. "yeah because he's obviously guilty"
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its a discussion family....remove the Victoria Secrets from ya buttocks

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20. "Welcome to the wonderful world of Winston defenders"
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Go read a FSU board. You'll need to wash your eyes out.

  

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2. "It's a sad situation in every way."
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Regardless of the outcome.

If she wins and he's not actually guilty, it's incredibly sad, as a young man's livelihood and reputation will have been smeared for nothing.

If she wins and he is actually guilty, it's incredibly sad, because another athlete felt it necessary to perpetrate sexual assault, and regardless of monetary gains in victory, she'll be a victim forced to see her attacker on TV and in commercials for years to come.

If he wins and he's not actually guilty, it's incredibly sad, because it will be used against rape accusers for years and years. "It's just like Duke lacrosse! She's just trying to get money!" they'll claim, as rape culture continues to pervade and women are continually forced to stay silent out of fear.

If he wins and he is actually guilty, it's incredibly sad, because... well, this would obviously be the worst case scenario.

Of course, since none of us were in that room, and it will be more or less impossible to ever get "the truth," I'm just shaking my head every time I read about it, knowing that there's no real victory for anyone here. It's just incredibly sad all around.

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4. "Problem, again, is in the uneven focus"
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Because a WHOLE lot of white women let this Ben Rothlisberger
shit go just because and he has MULTIPLE CASES where
we KNOW MORE details than in Winston's case

MULTIPLE

League SUSPENDED HIM for the conduct

He didn't get Ray Rice treatment, though, because white
women weren't up in arms the same way, when Big Ben's
shit was worse than Ray Rice in the opinion of many
women

Same way white women have treated Sean Penn with kid
gloves, when he makes Ray Rice look like a feminist
in terms of domestic violence

So unfortunately this casts a dark cloud over all of this

If he's guilty, he should be in jail RIGHT TODAY and
FUCK that evil bastard

This is why racism is bad for EVERYONE, though. It fucks
with our basic judgements, and everyone all sides has all
this dumb shit coloring (pun intended) our judgement



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18. "Indeed."
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5. "that's kind of where I'm at"
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I will allow that something could have gone down in that room that wasn't on the up and up. But, like you said....nobody else was in that room and its her word against his.

My thing is the timing of the case is such that she is thrusting herself in the eye at his greatest moment to date. That could be because she feels her attack deserves justice and she's striking back...it could also be opportunistic as shit.

There just isn't a good outcome...and if I were a budding professional athlete...I'd have cameras, microphones and consent forms before I have sex with ANYONE....this is the type of stain that never goes away.

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9. "Man, that Dave Chappelle Sex Contract Skit Looks Realer and Realer"
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>There just isn't a good outcome...and if I were a budding
>professional athlete...I'd have cameras, microphones and
>consent forms before I have sex with ANYONE....this is the
>type of stain that never goes away.
Basically...I'd either smash strippers or stay abstinent (although my porn stash would be through the roof and my right arm would be cock-deez)

  

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11. ""...Michael...why is there a film crew in your bedroom?""
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Michael: "Shh......it's all good baby. Now sign here....and here....and initial here......"

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6. "damn they need to let this ish go."
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7. "They probably would have after his 1st season"
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if he went through and was a model season...it would become more and more of an aside as time went on.....but shorty filing when she did is calculated....she WANTS this discussed....especially at his biggest moment.....especially with the league as skittish as they are in the face of Ray Rice/Adrian Peterson/etc.

And if she's telling the truth....hell yeah....fuck his shit up and get that money since you couldn't get jail time....

But she may not be telling the truth...we'll never know....and in the court of public opinion? She white...he black...he guilty.

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14. "TPD needed to not act like complete fuckups and fanboys"
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But they didn't, so here we are.

And I'm not saying he did it, but the police completely fucked the dog.

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8. "But are the Bucs still taking Jameis #1 Overall???"
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10. "Lovie Smith is the best place for him to land"
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as a Chicago Bear-ian....I got love for Lovie even though I agree he had to be let go.

Lovie was notorious for NOT throwing Cutler under the bus....even when he had reason to. He'll take everything and shelter his QB.

Also...he has a hand in personnel decisions...and they knew about the possibility of the civil suit when they scouted him.

He's going #1.

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15. "i wish they wouldn't. i want him on the Titans."
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17. "Its not the girl, isn't it her Aunt? Her aunt is a state prosecutor."
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>At the risk of sounding insensitive....

nothing good or smart ever comes after that intro


>my mind is saying that this is a cash grab.

lol

>Winston has a history of doing stupid shit....

lolol

>but none of them have strayed into violence.

lololol

  

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