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"Aaron Hernandez trial coming to a close."


  

          

This defense is comical...needed to holla at Prof keating.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/aaron-hernandez-defense-team-delivers-closing-arguments-article-1.2176089


Closing arguments in Aaron Hernandez
murder trial as prosecution and defense
make final cases to jury


FALL RIVER, Mass. — James Sultan, a defense attorney representing Aaron
Hernandez, addressed jurors inside Courtroom 7 of the Fall River Justice
Center Tuesday, questioning investigators' methods and prosecutors'
presentations in the defense's closing argument at the former Patriot's firstdegree
murder trial.
"Where's the proof? Where's the proof?" he said. "It isn't there."
Each side was allotted 90 minutes to make its argument, and both sides used
every second. Sultan insisted prosecutors leaned on jurors' ability to fill in a
"gaping hole" with speculation. The prosecution, led by Assistant District
Attorney William McCauley, countered that all the evidence linked Hernandez
to orchestrating the killing of Odin Lloyd, a 27­year­old landscaper and
amateur football player from the Dorchester neighborhood of Boston, in an
industrial park.
"He's got the gun!" McCauley said at one point.

Once the arguments were completed and Judge E. Susan Garsh read the
charges, she appointed Juror No. 5 – a middle­aged woman with short brown
hair – as foreperson. The jury was then led out of the room to begin
deliberations at 3:03 p.m. Hernandez was allowed to speak with his fiancée,
Shayanna Jenkins, and several family members.
In his final flourish, Sultan said that the government’s case was “infected with
bias,” and asked jurors to wonder why Massachusetts State Police Trooper
Eric Benson, the lead investigator on the case, was not one of the 132
witnesses the prosecution called. He also addressed the fact that a weapon
was never retrieved.
"This isn't a mystery show," Sultan said. "The case is whether or not the
Commonwealth has proven its case beyond a reasonable doubt."
McCauley referred to Hernandez as "this guy!" several times and asked that
jurors "not buy" testimony from a defense witness about PCP use among
the alleged accomplices. McCauley said Hernandez's cousin, Jennifer
Mercado, made it up
"Why is it in this case?" McCauley said. "It's a distraction, and it's been
manufactured by Jennifer Mercado."
Sultan allowed that his client was at the murder scene, but stated that he was
not involved in the slaying as he was joined by alleged accomplices Ernest
Wallace and Carlos Ortiz. The murder occurred on June 17, 2013, less than a
mile from Hernandez's house and just hours after Hernandez's first Father's
Day as the father of Avielle, his daughter and only child.
"He was a 23­year­old kid," Sultan said. "He witnessed something, a shocking
killing committed by someone he knew. He didn't know what to do so he put
one foot in front of the other. He's not charged with being an accessory after
the fact."
That contradicted what Patriots owner Robert Kraft testified about. Kraft
noted Hernandez hoped the timeline in the case came out to exonerate him.
Kraft said Hernandez told him he was at a club in Providence at the time of the
murder.
"False alibi," McCauley said.
McCauley encouraged the jury to consider the body of evidence, tracing a
motive to Hernandez's being upset with Lloyd at Club Rumor in Boston two
night's prior to the murder. He talked about Hernandez being seen with a gun
in his waistband outside the club, as a valet testified in court.
"Is that not to be believed?" McCauley said.
McCauley also called into question the demeanor of Hernandez and his
alleged confederates, citing their calm walking around Hernandez's house and
pool as Lloyd's body began to decompose before being discovered by a
teenage runner. If Hernandez saw someone murder Lloyd, McCauley said,
then why would he allow Wallace and Ortiz to hold his daughter the day after?
"After homicide, who would walk around with a gun in the house like it was a
trophy?" McCauley said. "Aaron Hernandez would. He's thinking no one's
going to think I did it."
Sultan pointed the jurors toward several pieces of evidence, in particular,
telling them that the prosecution "would do whatever it took to accomplish their
goal" of convicting Hernandez, the suspect they charged with first­degree
murder. He asserted that prosecutors attempted to "snooker" the jurors,
focusing on a shell casing connected to a piece of gum that police found in a
dumpster at the Enterprise rental center where Hernandez rented a car days
before allegedly killing Lloyd.
Lloyd's body was discovered with six gunshot wounds. He traced Hernandez's
footprints to shell casings at the murder scene, and McCauley called the site "a
perfect place to commit a homicide." Shaneah Jenkins, who dated Lloyd at the
time of his violent death, rubbed the shoulder of Lloyd's mother, Ursula Ward
as Ward bowed her head when McCauley talked about bullets ripping through
her son's flesh.
Sultan portrayed Hernandez and Lloyd, who were dating the Jenkins sisters,
as closer than acquaintances, linked together as smoking buddies in the
basement of Hernandez's house, spending "many, many weekends" with the
sisters. A marijuana blunt that contained the DNA of both Hernandez and Lloyd
was found at the murder scene. Shayanna Jenkins previously said Hernandez
and Lloyd were "cordial."
"Aaron and Odin shared a passion, a passion for marijuana," Sultan said.
He added: "Were they friends? Obviously they were friends. They were future
brothers in law."
When it was his turn, McCauley countered by shouting, "Inconsistent!" He
implored jurors to "follow the evidence."
"Look for that first fact. Were they friends?" McCauley said. "That's totally
inconsistent."
Hernandez, 25, pleaded not guilty to homicide and weapons charges. He was
arrested nine days after Lloyd was shot to death in an industrial park less than
a mile from Hernandez's house. Hernandez's arrest occurred on June 26,
2013 as he was led out of his home in handcuffs and arraigned in court. He
was cut by the Patriots and jailed in the Bristol County House of Corrections.
His attorneys harped on the loose ends that they believed showed Hernandez
did not plan to kill Lloyd.
"If Aaron had planned in advance to murder Odin, why would he leave keys to
a car that he had rented in Odin's pocket?" Sultan said. "If Aaron had planned
in advance, why would he have brought along two witnesses?"
Sultan acknowledged that Hernandez may have been holding a gun in his
hand on surveillance video from inside his house minutes after the murder.
"Is it a gun? It may be a gun," Sultan said. "Has the Commonwealth proven to
you beyond a reasonable doubt? Suppose you find it is a gun. How does that
prove Aaron Hernandez murdered Odin Lloyd?"
Six supporters, including Hernandez's mother, Terri, and fiancée, Shayanna
Jenkins, sat in the front row of the courtroom's gallery. At one point,
Hernandez's mother was coughing continuously, and Hernandez poured her a
cup of water.
Sultan referred to the trial as a "terrible case."
"Don't compound the tragedy by convicting an innocent man," he said.
McCauley asked the jury to find Hernandez guilty.
"We're asking for a fair verdict," he said.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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Apr 07th 2015
1
what trial?
Apr 07th 2015
2
man...all the defense is hopin to do is make JUST ONE jury member...
Apr 07th 2015
3
he's getting off like Nostrabombus predicted 9 months ago
Apr 07th 2015
4
saw footage, that dude(def atty)was like a republican catering to the ba...
Apr 07th 2015
5
yep...or 1 person holding out and the jury gets hung
Apr 07th 2015
6
      he's getting off unanimously by jury, lock (no pun intended)
Apr 08th 2015
7
           why do you think so?
Apr 08th 2015
8
           1st degree murder w/no weapon, no witness, no motive vs good lawyers
Apr 08th 2015
14
           and that about it! (c) the crowd @ jigga unplugged
Apr 08th 2015
9
           if the jury weighs all the evidence .. thatll never fly
Apr 08th 2015
10
           i'm saying
Apr 08th 2015
11
           they could have dude like the Chapelle Show R. Kelly skit....
Apr 08th 2015
13
           under the state's murder laws, that can still be enough to convict
Apr 08th 2015
15
           no way
Apr 08th 2015
12
Jury reached a verdict.
Apr 15th 2015
16
Guilty - 1st degree murder according to ABC
Apr 15th 2015
18
Another classic Bombstadamus jinx: GUILTY.
Apr 15th 2015
17
smh
Apr 15th 2015
19
jury couldnt miss this one.a hern laid erything out perfectly for them
Apr 15th 2015
20
Bombstadamus gonna start a Kickstarter to fund the appeal case.
Apr 15th 2015
22
are u under the impression I actually like dude or think he's innocent?
Apr 15th 2015
26
      I was just joking around.
Apr 15th 2015
28
      i did not follow this case closely but
Apr 15th 2015
34
u know y'all were startin to believe me while this jury took a week plus
Apr 15th 2015
23
never...this shit was so cut and dry...
Apr 15th 2015
27
i was started to think you knew someone on the jury. 1 or 2 idiots maybe
Apr 15th 2015
29
RE: u know y'all were startin to believe me while this jury took a week ...
Apr 15th 2015
31
lol, nah
Apr 15th 2015
32
i thought it was up in the air honestly
Apr 15th 2015
36
yo the defense was literally, if ahern wanted to kill odin lloyd why did
Apr 15th 2015
39
      lol, he did NOT make it easy for them
Apr 15th 2015
47
naw man...dude basically left his body across the street
Apr 15th 2015
40
He had me excited lol.
Apr 15th 2015
24
      still had gun charges
Apr 17th 2015
55
LIFE..NO PAROLE
Apr 15th 2015
21
What a pathetic performance by this sad human being (c) Bill Walton
Apr 15th 2015
35
I feel old. Half the jurors look younger than me.
Apr 15th 2015
25
Facility is 1.5 miles from Gillette... how poetic
Apr 15th 2015
30
when's aaron hernandez day at the stadium?
Apr 15th 2015
33
smh no chill lol
Apr 15th 2015
37
Are you born and raised from the Boston area?
Apr 15th 2015
41
      manipulated to like a team outside the region. probably by parents lol
Apr 15th 2015
43
           It's actually pretty easy, I hate the Celtics and Red Sox
Apr 15th 2015
46
           nobody liked the patriots until 1995
Apr 15th 2015
48
                ^^^True Story.
Apr 16th 2015
49
                they were more popular than the Celts and B's
Apr 17th 2015
50
                     Ray bourque alone was more popular.
Apr 17th 2015
54
                          no.
Apr 17th 2015
56
                               huh
Apr 17th 2015
58
Can he see Gillette from his cell window though
Apr 15th 2015
38
Fox News was perplexed that such a talented fellow is going to waste in ...
Apr 15th 2015
42
in where?
Apr 17th 2015
51
      jail but he meant prison
Apr 17th 2015
52
      great bit.
Apr 17th 2015
53
           thanks!
Apr 17th 2015
57
Robert Kraft's testimony played a key role in the jury's decision
Apr 15th 2015
44
Like i said before, this was desperation time for the defense.
Apr 15th 2015
45

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1. "same"
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>"Aaron and Odin shared a passion, a passion for marijuana," Sultan
>said.

  

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Ashy Achilles
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2. "what trial?"
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3. "man...all the defense is hopin to do is make JUST ONE jury member..."
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have an inkling of doubt...just one.

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4. "he's getting off like Nostrabombus predicted 9 months ago"
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5. "saw footage, that dude(def atty)was like a republican catering to the ba..."
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I could see these idiot jurors giving a not guilty verdict

  

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6. "yep...or 1 person holding out and the jury gets hung"
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7. "he's getting off unanimously by jury, lock (no pun intended)"
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8. "why do you think so?"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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14. "1st degree murder w/no weapon, no witness, no motive vs good lawyers"
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That's a tough way to go.

He's also got one of the guys who would have been a witness on his payroll, his fiance doing ride-or-die-chick things, etc.

Edit: this is not me saying he didn't do it, he's clearly a psychopath with multiple bodies on his dossier, I just see him walking on this......the other case he's gone coming up after this is supposedly stronger so he's still fighting uphill to not spend a long-ass time in jail.

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9. "and that about it! (c) the crowd @ jigga unplugged"
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"sure, A-Hern was there but he didn't do it" was a phenomenal move late in the 4th quarter by his attorney, to likely tip the scales of Reasonable Doubt just enough for an otherwise guilty defendant.

legal guilt vs factual guilt.

  

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10. "if the jury weighs all the evidence .. thatll never fly"
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11. "i'm saying"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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13. "they could have dude like the Chapelle Show R. Kelly skit...."
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at the crime scene, holding his State ID, with a gun in his hand...if 1 juror bought that closing argument and has doubt...it don't mean shit.

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15. "under the state's murder laws, that can still be enough to convict"
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you don't have to be the triggerman

*Jews you*

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12. "no way"
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16. "Jury reached a verdict."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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18. "Guilty - 1st degree murder according to ABC"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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17. "Another classic Bombstadamus jinx: GUILTY. "
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19. "smh"
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20. "jury couldnt miss this one.a hern laid erything out perfectly for them"
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that blueprint was perfect

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22. "Bombstadamus gonna start a Kickstarter to fund the appeal case."
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26. "are u under the impression I actually like dude or think he's innocent?"
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No.......I'm sure he murdered this dude as well as probably 5-6 others in his time running around whylin out at Florida.

I just figured first-degree murder with no murder weapon, no witness, no motive and good lawyers would be tough to pull off.

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28. "I was just joking around."
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34. "i did not follow this case closely but"
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the "no murder weapon" defense is about a thousand times less effective in this case where they can link him to a shell casing, and have a video of him with the damn gun

  

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23. "u know y'all were startin to believe me while this jury took a week plus"
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27. "never...this shit was so cut and dry..."
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just no weapon....but he laid the dam blueprint...cameras and shit...timeline....wasnt no puzzle..especially for a young jury like that

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29. "i was started to think you knew someone on the jury. 1 or 2 idiots maybe"
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straight acquittal tho...hell no.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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31. "RE: u know y'all were startin to believe me while this jury took a week ..."
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Your contention that he would get off was, as I said at the time, preposterous from the jump.


He never really had a chance, the evidence was airtight.

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32. "lol, nah"
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36. "i thought it was up in the air honestly"
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cause there was no smoking gun (no pun intended) and naturally rich people have good lawyers. the prosecution did a good job though.

  

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39. "yo the defense was literally, if ahern wanted to kill odin lloyd why did"
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he leave so much incriminating evidence?

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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47. "lol, he did NOT make it easy for them"
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>he leave so much incriminating evidence?

"i know he had the gun in his hand on camera, but why would he ever do that if he was guilty? he can't be that dumb, can he?"

yes. yes he can.

  

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40. "naw man...dude basically left his body across the street "
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from his house...

  

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24. "He had me excited lol."
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Was trying to see AHern back on the field for the lulz.

  

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55. "still had gun charges"
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and he's going to trial again on a double murder case.

so.

  

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21. "LIFE..NO PAROLE"
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its a wrap

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be about it or be without it

RIP GOATs

  

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35. "What a pathetic performance by this sad human being (c) Bill Walton"
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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25. "I feel old. Half the jurors look younger than me."
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30. "Facility is 1.5 miles from Gillette... how poetic"
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33. "when's aaron hernandez day at the stadium?"
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37. "smh no chill lol"
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41. "Are you born and raised from the Boston area?"
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To hate the Patriots as much as you do and still live in that area seems like the sort of torture you read from Greek mythology.

  

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43. "manipulated to like a team outside the region. probably by parents lol"
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cuz it's very abnormal for people from the area to go against the Pats or any Boston team.

  

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46. "It's actually pretty easy, I hate the Celtics and Red Sox"
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Mostly because I'm around their obnoxious fanbases constantly. It's very easy to not want to be a fan of Boston sports teams by simply not wanting to be grouped in with the horrid people you see at games.

  

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48. "nobody liked the patriots until 1995"
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wearing paper bags to the games and shit.

even then, they were still #4 around here until 2001.

  

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49. "^^^True Story."
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https://soundcloud.com/matt-koelling-666011203

www.somethinginthewudder.com

https://twitter.com/nostrabombus

https://www.facebook.com/matt.koelling.96

https://www.instagram.com/something_in_the_wudder/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-koelling-438a80

  

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50. "they were more popular than the Celts and B's "
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in the Parcells/Bledsoe era. The Bruins play hockey and the Celts were really bad. It was pretty easy to overtake the #2 spot.

edit: I don't really see the issue with them becoming popular when they were finally good btw. Doesn't that describe pretty much every fanbase? Let's not pretend like the Sox didn't have some really dead periods where they almost moved out of town.

  

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54. "Ray bourque alone was more popular. "
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56. "no."
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and i don't really have a reason to lie about this. i don't think correcting you by less than a decade makes the team look impressive.

  

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58. "huh"
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38. "Can he see Gillette from his cell window though"
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Journalists already want to know

  

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42. "Fox News was perplexed that such a talented fellow is going to waste in ..."
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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51. "in where?"
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52. "jail but he meant prison"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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53. "great bit. "
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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57. "thanks!"
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44. "Robert Kraft's testimony played a key role in the jury's decision"
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http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/12696046/aaron-hernandez-trial-jurors-say-testimony-new-england-patriots-owner-robert-kraft-compelling


Hours after announcing a guilty verdict, jurors in the Aaron Hernandez murder trial said they were riveted by the April 1 testimony of New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft.

One juror called Kraft's testimony "some of the most compelling testimony" of the some 135 witnesses who took the stand during the nine-week trial.


Kraft testified that Hernandez told him he was innocent when asked whether he was involved in the June 2013 murder of Odin Lloyd.

Kraft was asked about the events of June 19, which was two days after the killing. The Patriots owner said he found Hernandez in a weight room working out at the team's facility and pulled him into an adjacent office for a private talk.

"He said he was not involved," Kraft said when questioned by the prosecution, which had said Hernandez was at a bar earlier in that evening, then drove to Boston with two friends, picked up Lloyd and killed him in an industrial park. "That he was innocent and that he hoped that the time of the murder incident came out because he said he was in a club."

That piece of testimony was key, jurors said.

"The one part for me was Aaron's alleged statement that he wished the time that Odin was murdered be made public because he was at a club at that time," one juror said. "To this day, we just went through a three-month trial, this is now a year-and-a-half or two years later, and we still don't know the exact time of Odin's murder, specifically. So I don't know how Aaron would have had that information two years ago. Even today, after medical examiners' review, we still don't have that information."

Hernandez was convicted of first-degree murder in the case Wednesday and sentenced to life in prison without parole.

All 12 jurors and three alternates spoke to reporters after the verdict was announced.

They also said they were shocked by the defense admission that Hernandez was at the scene of the killing -- an admission that they said helped confirm that he was guilty.

They also described how the judge talked to them privately after they reached their decision and told them about other allegations and evidence not presented in the case.

The jurors said that information also reaffirmed their feeling that they had made the right decision.

The Patriots signed Hernandez to a $40 million contract in 2012.

Within hours of his arrest, the team cut the former Pro Bowler.

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.


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45. "Like i said before, this was desperation time for the defense."
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>They also said they were shocked by the defense admission that Hernandez was at the scene of the killing -- an admission that they said helped confirm that he was guilty.

Lol @ that admission coupled with what he told kraft though.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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