1. "Bron, Durant, Russy, Steph, Cp3" In response to Reply # 0 Thu Jan-22-15 08:56 AM by Cenario
AD gotta get a team in the playoffs before he in my top 5.
I might flip flop CP3/Curry
Russy makes my top 3 bc he's looking to murder the other team every single night like no other player in this league. He's always in high gear.
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
dula dibiasi Member since Apr 05th 2004 21925 posts
Thu Jan-22-15 10:31 AM
9. "man, I love that dude. prolly my fave player to watch right now. " In response to Reply # 1
>Russy makes my top 3 bc he's looking to murder the other team >every single night like no other player in this league. He's >always in high gear.
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it is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - sherlock holmes
2. "RE: Your Top 5 NBA Players RIGHT TODAY" In response to Reply # 0
1. bron - just the best all-around. can control the game in so many ways. highest IQ as well.
2. KD - best scorer, has expanded floor game. could be a better defender tho.
3. Af-Am Prof - incredibly smart, almost as smart as bron. has improved on D, which i guess isn't saying much. but, he has. he's the best closer in the game, in my opinion.
4. steph - best PG. best shooter. significant improvement as a creator and defender.
5. voldemort - if he could ever polish his game, i think he could be the best player. i say that knowing perfectly well that it's the chaotic aspect of his game that makes him special.
7. "I agree... and I think he has chance of being New Point God" In response to Reply # 2
5. voldemort - if he could ever polish his game, i think he >could be the best player. i say that knowing perfectly well >that it's the chaotic aspect of his game that makes him >special.
because when he does polish, he puts up ridiculous numbers. he's probably my favorite player to watch outside of Curry and "Kobe-Mode" Ky
auragin_boi Member since Aug 01st 2003 20939 posts
Thu Jan-22-15 10:10 AM
5. "AD makes this conversation really hard" In response to Reply # 0
1. Bron 2. Durant 3. Harden 4. Russy 5T. Steph 5T. Brow
It's hard to distinguish between Harden and Russy. Russ is a better defender but Harden is the better closer. Plus Harden is the sole creator for the Rockets it seems (no offense to Pat Bev) and Russy kinda has an outlet in Durant. So I give him the nudge based on responsibility to his team. I can't, with good conscience, leave Anthony Davis off this list. Steph is having a great year but he has an embarrassment of talent around him and a coach who might already be better than Monty in year 1. AD IS the Pels.
13. "what could have been." In response to Reply # 12
especiaally since Ibaka regressed this season.
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
dula dibiasi Member since Apr 05th 2004 21925 posts
Thu Jan-22-15 10:23 AM
8. "bronny, browzus, servant, cliff, furious styles." In response to Reply # 0
2 ends to the floor. I hate when ppl talk abt 'defense' as if it's like 1 of 10 categories, and not half of the goddamn game. all 5 of those guys fall somewhere between above-average and great on that end. steph and af-am, while much improved this season, are both still below-average imo.
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it is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - sherlock holmes
dula dibiasi Member since Apr 05th 2004 21925 posts
Thu Jan-22-15 01:47 PM
19. "yes, significantly. " In response to Reply # 11
not interested in back-and-forthing it tho, i'm already familiar with your stance on the subject.
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it is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - sherlock holmes
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
25. "CP3 has the best hands / anticipation " In response to Reply # 11
But there isn't really a lock-down point guard in the league (Pat Bev is a joke). Conley used to be a pest along w/ Kyle Lowry/Bledsoe but they have to expend so much energy on the offensive end they just can't do it anymore. Elfrid Payton seems like he has potential to be a great on ball defender but the rest are really ball hawks.
dula dibiasi Member since Apr 05th 2004 21925 posts
Thu Jan-22-15 02:26 PM
39. "paul's an excellent defender. " In response to Reply # 25
his IQ is off the charts, his anticipation is unmatched, he's fantastic at positioning, great at holding his ground. he's a deceptively sturdy fuck. when he locks in he's like a fucking fireplug, you can't move him.
ppl think that because he's smallish and not a great athlete, he's not good on that end and just plays passing lanes. dude's guarded KD straight up in playoff 4th qtrs and held his own.
conley's maybe lost a half step but still really really fucking good. bev's a try-hard bamma. good but overrated. bled is great when he wants it. and elf's got next, he's got all the tools to be a lockdown juggernaut.
>But there isn't really a lock-down point guard in the league >(Pat Bev is a joke). Conley used to be a pest along w/ Kyle >Lowry/Bledsoe but they have to expend so much energy on the >offensive end they just can't do it anymore. Elfrid Payton >seems like he has potential to be a great on ball defender but >the rest are really ball hawks.
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it is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - sherlock holmes
44. "He can't check quick guards effectively any longer" In response to Reply # 39
Kyrie was torching him as if his name was Derek Fisher during their last meeting. Lowry/Monta also gave him the business early on this season. He just isn't as quick/explosive as he used to be b/c of his knee issue.
dula dibiasi Member since Apr 05th 2004 21925 posts
Thu Jan-22-15 05:02 PM
56. "those guys torch everybody." In response to Reply # 44
you can name any great defender in nba history and i can give you dozens of games where they were touched for big scoring nights. nobody singlehandedly shuts down great scorers every time out. that's not reality. but i can tell you from watching him play for a decade that chris paul is an extremely intelligent, crafty, committed, willing, resourceful, strong defender, and that's one of the (many) things that elevates him above a lot of these other so-called 'great' point guards.
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it is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - sherlock holmes
researchers from harvard just presented empirical evidence @ sloan that suggests that paul is the best point guard defender in the nba, and that he "suppresses and disrupts shot activity as much or more than any other guard in the league"
24. "so youd rather have damian lilliard on your squad right now then bron?" In response to Reply # 21
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
it is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - sherlock holmes
30. "'this version' of lebron james is avg 26, 6 and 7 on 50% vs" In response to Reply # 26
Lilliard 22, 5, 6 on 45%
and thats just on offense.
I guess its mind blowing bc lebron is a better player than damian lillard.
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
34. "shouldn't let your biases cloud your judgment" In response to Reply # 33
you wind up saying silly stuff.
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
22. "how bout if the playofffs started right now, who would i take first." In response to Reply # 16
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
dula dibiasi Member since Apr 05th 2004 21925 posts
Thu Jan-22-15 04:27 PM
52. "i mean, i feel you, dogg... but still" In response to Reply # 16
he definitely hasn't been the best player in the league _this_ season -- davis, harden and curry are all playing at a ridiculously high level (.600+ TS%, 27+ PER, .280+ WS/48) -- but i still feel like someone has to _decisively_ dethrone him before you can take the 'belt' away. and that hasn't really happened yet.
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it is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - sherlock holmes
18. "RE: Your Top 5 NBA Players RIGHT TODAY" In response to Reply # 0
1) Bron: Unstoppable when he's in Bath $alt mode
2) KD: Unguardable when he is hitting from long range
3) Harden: Unguardable when his midrange shot is falling
4) Curry: Always demands the attention of the entire defense
5) AD: Can dominate on both ends of the floor
Two player that can be top 5 players if the ever got their act together:
-Russy: Can get into the paint at will but shoots himself on the foot too often. -Boogie: Unguardable in the post & is as skilled as any bigman on the offensive end but lacks patience/discipline.
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
31. "alot of people hopped on lil's nuts after last season tho " In response to Reply # 29
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
40. "Folks forget he got taken to school by Top5 in the 2nd rd" In response to Reply # 31 Thu Jan-22-15 02:30 PM by FILF
Patty also outplayed him in the closeout game when Tony had to leave the game early b/c of injury.
Meanwhile Monta/Russy were giving the Spurs all they could handle even w/ Kawhi/Danny (IMO the best perimeter duo defensively in the entire league...just ask Bron/Wade) taking turns trying to slow them down.
43. "LOL. Keep trollin FILF." In response to Reply # 37
C'mon, everyone been talking about this guy since he was a junior at Weber State...because hey, there's this really good fucking guy at wack ass Weber State.
46. "Kemba is a very good player...it's not an insult " In response to Reply # 43 Thu Jan-22-15 03:05 PM by FILF
Kemba is known for his late game heroics which is what made Lillard a household name. Outside of that they are both scoring guards although Lillard is really a shooter while Kemba mixes it up.
Kemba was carrying the Hornets after Big Al got injured so I would like to see Lillard do that same now that LMA is out w/ injury......the jury is still out on Lillard until then since Bledsoe torched his ass in the Blazers first game w/o LMA.
54. "people need to learn Lillard is the 2nd best player on the 'zers" In response to Reply # 28
the most intriguing thing about Lillard is the way he's improved year over year, even though he had the ability to be an NBA mainstay as early as his rookie career. He's not satisfied, has directly addressed deficiencies (i.e. rim finishing, defense) and it's shown in his play this year.
But LaMarcus is more valuable to the Blazers than Damian. People need to stop sleeping.
61. "RIGHT TODAY? Steph, Brow, Durant, Bron, Gasol" In response to Reply # 0
I would round out the top ten with Westbrook, Harden, Paul, Aldridge and Cousins. I'm looking at this question like who are the guys who are playing the best this year/having the best season.
And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
65. "*gets the obvious answer out of the way first*" In response to Reply # 0
All-time --> GOAT Kobe Bean Mamba Bryant
1. Bron because Cleveland vs Everybody 2. Russy because he's that dude 3. KD because he's got some GOAT in him. 4. Dat Brow because he's incredible. 5. Michael Conley because he's a solid player that means a lot to his team.
Jimmy Butler would make the starting five if he played for any team other than the Bulls.
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