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"A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking..."
Sun Jan-18-15 05:38 PM by COOLEHMAGAZINE

          

Uninterrupted.


And the Packers have two Superbowls to show for it.


Can anyone explain this dichotomy?



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IT'S TOO EARLY!
Jan 18th 2015
1
RE: IT'S TOO EARLY!
Jan 18th 2015
2
      Defense wins championships not QBs
Jan 18th 2015
3
      RE: Defense wins championships not QBs
Jan 18th 2015
5
      QBs dominate in the regular season, defense takes over in the postseason
Jan 18th 2015
19
           RE: QBs dominate in the regular season, defense takes over in the postse...
Jan 18th 2015
21
                RE: QBs dominate in the regular season, defense takes over in the postse...
Jan 18th 2015
27
                     RE: QBs dominate in the regular season, defense takes over in the postse...
Jan 18th 2015
29
                          RE: QBs dominate in the regular season, defense takes over in the postse...
Jan 18th 2015
31
                               RE: QBs dominate in the regular season, defense takes over in the postse...
Jan 18th 2015
32
      thats not true.
Jan 19th 2015
43
      You're ignoring the HOFer QBs that had elite D
Jan 19th 2015
52
           thats happened 5 times in the last 8 years, maybe 6 in 9
Jan 19th 2015
54
                We're talking about SB champs not runner ups / Stats alone aren't enough
Jan 20th 2015
64
                     im not reading all your pleas
Jan 20th 2015
65
                          If the 2012 Ravens/2011 Giants are average then who's elite?
Jan 20th 2015
67
      RE: Defense wins championships not QBs (Still true in 2017)
Jan 22nd 2017
113
      Rodgers' case is more understandable
Jan 18th 2015
6
           RE: Rodgers' case is more understandable
Jan 18th 2015
8
                cmon.
Jan 18th 2015
11
                That much nonsense doesn't even deserve a reply
Jan 18th 2015
12
                RE: cmon.
Jan 18th 2015
13
                lol breh.
Jan 18th 2015
wrong spot
Jan 18th 2015
4
Montana/Young >>> Favre/Rodgers
Jan 18th 2015
7
RE: Montana/Young >>> Favre/Rodgers
Jan 18th 2015
9
a lot of the goats have one or none
Jan 18th 2015
10
Moon.
Jan 18th 2015
16
Yep
Jan 18th 2015
30
FIVE GREY CUPS THOUGH!!!!!
Jan 19th 2015
34
RE: a lot of the goats have one or none
Jan 18th 2015
18
RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking...
Jan 18th 2015
14
i dont think the difference between Ben and Rodgers is significant
Jan 19th 2015
44
      RE: i dont think the difference between Ben and Rodgers is significant
Jan 20th 2015
69
RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking...
Jan 18th 2015
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RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking...
Jan 18th 2015
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I don't think it requires an explanation.
Jan 18th 2015
20
RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking...
Jan 18th 2015
22
SB vs Steelers..
Jan 18th 2015
23
      RE: SB vs Steelers..
Jan 18th 2015
25
it's hard as shit to win a super bowl. this is a terrible post.
Jan 18th 2015
24
RE: it's hard as shit to win a super bowl. this is a terrible post.
Jan 18th 2015
26
RE: it's hard as shit to win a super bowl. this is a terrible post.
Jan 18th 2015
28
How many franchises have one or zero in that same span?
Jan 19th 2015
33
RE: How many franchises have one or zero in that same span?
Jan 19th 2015
35
      You're ripping apart your own argument, man
Jan 19th 2015
48
           RE: You're ripping apart your own argument, man
Jan 20th 2015
68
                they are in the mix every year and he was playing on one leg lol
Jan 20th 2015
71
and the Colts have 1 in a similar timeframe (17 years), hard to win SB's
Jan 19th 2015
36
RE: and the Colts have 1 in a similar timeframe (17 years), hard to win ...
Jan 19th 2015
37
RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking...
Jan 19th 2015
38
Yeah....
Jan 19th 2015
39
RE: Yeah....
Jan 19th 2015
41
In that same space, the Giants did it 3 times with borderline BUMS.
Jan 19th 2015
40
twice, no? they beat the bills before favre was even drafted, dude
Jan 19th 2015
47
oh, if we're talking about in the Favre span, then yeah, 2x.
Jan 19th 2015
49
      i so hope they lose this shit.
Jan 19th 2015
51
http://blog.nj.com/giants_impact/2007/10/medium_elim.JPG
Nov 02nd 2015
77
Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer have rings during that timespan too...
Jan 19th 2015
42
RE: Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer have rings during that timespan too...
Jan 19th 2015
45
RE: Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer have rings during that timespan too...
Jan 19th 2015
57
You can be a lucky stiff at any position but IMO QB is very important
Jan 19th 2015
50
      QB is very important but: Elite D/Mediocre QB > Mediocre D/Elite QB
Jan 19th 2015
53
           A "D" is 15 to 18 players, a quarterback is one guy, dude.
Jan 19th 2015
55
                RE: A "D" is 15 to 18 players, a quarterback is one guy, dude.
Jan 19th 2015
58
                And of course it's best to have both. And?
Jan 19th 2015
59
                I'm aware of that but folks actually treat the D as a single entity
Jan 20th 2015
70
This post gets a C+ could of been higher with careful framing
Jan 19th 2015
46
yea this would have been good
Jan 19th 2015
56
RE: This post gets a C+ could of been higher with careful framing
Jan 19th 2015
60
      *pages OE, shells, and jersey*
Jan 19th 2015
62
so this whole shit was in defense of Peyton Manning?????
Jan 19th 2015
61
RE: so this whole shit was in defense of Peyton Manning?????
Jan 20th 2015
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RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking...
Jan 20th 2015
66
Rodgers Fault. Even cheeseeaters see it
Jan 25th 2015
72
Packers defense has been shit for 4 straight years
Jan 26th 2015
73
RE: Packers defense has been shit for 4 straight years
Jan 26th 2015
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RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking...
Nov 02nd 2015
75
had to wait a while for this one, eh? about half the season lol
Nov 02nd 2015
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      RE: had to wait a while for this one, eh? about half the season lol
Nov 02nd 2015
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           Question, did Favre win a Super Bowl? Did Rodgers?
Nov 02nd 2015
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                RE: Question, did Favre win a Super Bowl? Did Rodgers?
Nov 02nd 2015
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                     part of manning getting ripped for only winning one
Nov 02nd 2015
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                          RE: part of manning getting ripped for only winning one
Nov 02nd 2015
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                          i mean many would have favre in their top 10
Nov 02nd 2015
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                               RE: i mean many would have favre in their top 10
Nov 03rd 2015
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It's unprecedented because they had a great QB early in his career..
Nov 02nd 2015
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RE: It's unprecedented because they had a great QB early in his career..
Nov 02nd 2015
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      It's hard to win in the NFL consistently unless you're cheating....
Nov 02nd 2015
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           LOL @ the mighty NFC North
Nov 02nd 2015
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           RE: It's hard to win in the NFL consistently unless you're cheating....
Nov 02nd 2015
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                side note, it would be crazy if Rodgers didn't get another ring
Nov 02nd 2015
85
                     not that crazy, winning a super bowl is hard
Nov 02nd 2015
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RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking...
Nov 16th 2015
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RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking...
Nov 16th 2015
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RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking...
Nov 26th 2015
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This post gets the award for "most surprising mileage"
Nov 27th 2015
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They good with one elite defender, so AR gets ALL the credit
Nov 27th 2015
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RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking...
Nov 30th 2015
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http://oi65.tinypic.com/2moul5c.jpg
Dec 03rd 2015
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1st in what? packers are still behind the vikings
Dec 04th 2015
99
1st in working Rodgers belt .gifs I googled
Dec 05th 2015
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RE: http://oi65.tinypic.com/2moul5c.jpg
Dec 04th 2015
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RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking...
Jan 28th 2016
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RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking...
Sep 19th 2016
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he's extremely careless with the ball too
Sep 19th 2016
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RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking...
Nov 07th 2016
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RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking...
Jan 22nd 2017
106
It's easier blaming Thompson than Rodgers
Jan 22nd 2017
107
If their career ended today, I'm giving the nod to Brees
Jan 22nd 2017
114
      I can't argue with you
Jan 22nd 2017
120
Going to be a lot of blame on McCarthy, but this game isn't on him
Jan 22nd 2017
108
      that dude is one of the worst active coaches in the NFL
Jan 22nd 2017
109
      it's on him, Capers and their trash GM equally
Jan 22nd 2017
117
           RE: it's on him, Capers and their trash GM equally
Jan 22nd 2017
119
A quarter century of injuring your receivers
Jan 22nd 2017
110
rodgers is 0-34 now when trailing by 9+ in the 4th quarter.
Jan 22nd 2017
111
RE: rodgers is 0-34 now when trailing by 9+ in the 4th quarter.
Jan 22nd 2017
112
Is it seriously deleted?
Jan 23rd 2017
129
      yeah
Jan 24th 2017
132
Because it's a team sport
Jan 22nd 2017
115
RE: Because it's a team sport
Jan 22nd 2017
116
      the last 5 years yeah.
Jan 22nd 2017
118
      Yes outside of their offense and really passing attack
Jan 22nd 2017
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           RE: Yes outside of their offense and really passing attack
Jan 23rd 2017
126
                Eddie Lacey is fat and that season was fools gold
Jan 23rd 2017
127
                     RE: Eddie Lacey is fat and that season was fools gold
Jan 23rd 2017
128
RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking...
Jan 22nd 2017
121
damn...
Jan 23rd 2017
123
So he's been dragging a sub-par squad farther than they shld've gone
Jan 23rd 2017
124
      RE: So he's been dragging a sub-par squad farther than they shld've gone
Jan 23rd 2017
125
           vs Atlanta the D gave up 44, and Rodgers led the team in rushing
Jan 24th 2017
130
                RE: vs Atlanta the D gave up 44, and Rodgers led the team in rushing
Jan 24th 2017
131
Here's a major flaw I'm seeing in your arguments
Jan 26th 2017
133
RE: Here's a major flaw I'm seeing in your arguments
Oct 08th 2018
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RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking...
Oct 08th 2018
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dogg the kicker missed 13 points of kicks
Oct 08th 2018
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RE: dogg the kicker missed 13 points of kicks
Oct 08th 2018
137
DID YOU WATCH THAT GAME?!?!?!?
Oct 08th 2018
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      RE: DID YOU WATCH THAT GAME?!?!?!?
Oct 08th 2018
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           Did you watch the game?
Oct 08th 2018
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                RE: Did you watch the game?
Oct 08th 2018
144
                     I have no problem shitting on the Packers or Rodgers
Oct 08th 2018
149
lmfao
Oct 08th 2018
139
RE: dogg the kicker missed 13 points of kicks
Oct 08th 2018
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      Thats now how things work but yea Rodgers sucks, I agree
Oct 08th 2018
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           RE: Thats now how things work but yea Rodgers sucks, I agree
Oct 08th 2018
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                If the kicker makes the kicks the game plays out differently
Oct 08th 2018
148
Dog please keep preaching this sermon
Oct 08th 2018
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RE: Dog please keep preaching this sermon
Oct 08th 2018
147
      this is mind-boggling
Oct 08th 2018
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           Yesterday was not the day
Oct 08th 2018
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                At some point it's cumulative...
Oct 08th 2018
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                     It must be me just completely hating the Lions
Oct 08th 2018
155
Lot of stalled drives. It's never Aaron's fault tho.
Oct 08th 2018
150
RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking...
Oct 08th 2018
158
What is the average duration of a Packer WR's career?
Oct 08th 2018
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RE: What is the average duration of a Packer WR's career?
Oct 08th 2018
156
Ultimate team sport
Oct 08th 2018
157
I’m sure he’ll say his knee hurt or something
Oct 16th 2018
159
*snicker*
Oct 16th 2018
160
He beat CJ GOAT Beathard
Oct 16th 2018
161
So we agree he played like shit last night?
Oct 16th 2018
162
      If the Patriots spent most of the game trailing CJ and the Niners
Oct 16th 2018
163

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1. "IT'S TOO EARLY!"
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COOLEHMAGAZINE
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2. "RE: IT'S TOO EARLY!"
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I mean, this is an unprecendented run of all-time QB play.

UNINTERRUPTED.

IN A SO_CALLED QB LEAGUE.





i just want some context within which to understand this apparent anomaly.

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3. "Defense wins championships not QBs"
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>I mean, this is an unprecendented run of all-time QB play.
>
>UNINTERRUPTED.
>
>IN A SO_CALLED QB LEAGUE.
>
>
>
>
>
>i just want some context within which to understand this
>apparent anomaly.

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COOLEHMAGAZINE
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5. "RE: Defense wins championships not QBs"
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Okay.


So, not a QB league? We are all agreed?




Just wondering because Rodgers is best QB ever from what I hear and Brett is top 10, no?

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19. "QBs dominate in the regular season, defense takes over in the postseason"
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>So, not a QB league? We are all agreed?

It's the same in the NBA. Team that can get stops when they need it most are the ones that win chips. Teams that fight fire w/ fire end up losing at the end.

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COOLEHMAGAZINE
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21. "RE: QBs dominate in the regular season, defense takes over in the postse..."
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Okay, so all this QB's win titles shit they talk is just media driven bullshit?


I'm okay with that answer, for what it's worth, I just want to be clear on what the explanation is.

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27. "RE: QBs dominate in the regular season, defense takes over in the postse..."
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>I'm okay with that answer, for what it's worth, I just want to
>be clear on what the explanation is.

If a QB is having a bad day (which happens often times against championship level defense aka playoffs) then the team is cooked. But if you have an elite defense than can keep the game close then the team always has a chance. Just look at Eli/Flacco/Dilfer & even Russell; one thing they all have in common is an elite defense. Warner/Peyton/Brees/Rodgers had to play at a high level every game to pull out wins, when they didn't they lost.

It's tough to play at a high level every game in the postseason which is why Warner/Peyton/Brees/Rodgers have only one chip. Basically, teams need a boarderline elite QB (Big Ben) & an elite defense to create a dynasty.

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COOLEHMAGAZINE
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29. "RE: QBs dominate in the regular season, defense takes over in the postse..."
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>>I'm okay with that answer, for what it's worth, I just want
>to
>>be clear on what the explanation is.
>
>If a QB is having a bad day (which happens often times against
>championship level defense aka playoffs) then the team is
>cooked.

Okay, I can see that.

But if you have an elite defense than can keep the
>game close then the team always has a chance. Just look at
>Eli/Flacco/Dilfer & even Russell; one thing they all have in
>common is an elite defense. Warner/Peyton/Brees/Rodgers had to
>play at a high level every game to pull out wins, when they
>didn't they lost.

Rodgers won three playoff games in his run to the SB and only played "elite ball" in one of them against a Falcons team that was basicallly wet toilet paper.

I dunno if you consider that GB defense to be elite or not. I dont.

>
>It's tough to play at a high level every game in the
>postseason which is why Warner/Peyton/Brees/Rodgers have only
>one chip. Basically, teams need a boarderline elite QB (Big
>Ben) & an elite defense to create a dynasty.

Okay. So the problem is Green Bay hasn't had a great defense much these past quarter century?

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31. "RE: QBs dominate in the regular season, defense takes over in the postse..."
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>Rodgers won three playoff games in his run to the SB and only
>played "elite ball" in one of them against a Falcons team that
>was basicallly wet toilet paper.

GB actually had a very good defensive team in 2010 so he didn't need to play lights out. He took care of the ball, kept the chain moving & scored points in the red zone.

>I dunno if you consider that GB defense to be elite or not. I
>dont.
They had the 2nd best ranked defense in the ENTIRE league. They weren't the 2000 Ravens but nor were the 1st ranked defense (the same Steelers team they beat in the SB).

>Okay. So the problem is Green Bay hasn't had a great defense
>much these past quarter century?
I can't tell you that off the top of my head but both the 96 & '10 squad were pretty legit on the defense side of the ball (they ranked 1st & 2nd in the regular season).

Basically, BOTH Favre/Rodgers have never won w/o a top ranked defense. As we all witnessed today, the Packers defense couldn't get stops in the 4th quarter to seal the deal & they ended up losing.

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32. "RE: QBs dominate in the regular season, defense takes over in the postse..."
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Some clarifications: SB year they were 2nd in points allowed and 5th in yards.

They did go 15-1 the year after, the best reg season record in team history.

But in support of your argument, they were 31st ranked defensive team. On the other side, Packers were 14th in points allowed, which is not terrible. And Rodgers threw a pick and fumbled twice in the playoff game they lost at home to Giants.


So the defense argument has some truth in it but by the same token maybe the Packers just didn't get to play Caleb Hanie and Matt Ryan to get to the SB.


They can't blame the defense this year!

Or last year for that matter.


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43. "thats not true."
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In the last 25 years there have been 5 QBs that arent or wont be HOF, probably 6 including Eli, who won a Super Bowl

Rypien, Hostetler, Dilfer, Flacco, Brad Johnson, Eli

  

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52. "You're ignoring the HOFer QBs that had elite D"
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List me all the HOFer QBs that won a Super Bowl w/ a mediocre defense (i.e. the equivalent of Rypien, Hostetler, Dilfer, Flacco, Brad Johnson, Eli) in the past 25 years.

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54. "thats happened 5 times in the last 8 years, maybe 6 in 9"
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2014 NE is 13th
2013 denver 19th
2012 ravens 17th
2011 giants 27th, new england 30th total D
2009 saints 25th runner up indy 18th
2006 colts 21st

  

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64. "We're talking about SB champs not runner ups / Stats alone aren't enough"
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>2014 NE is 13th
Haven't even played in the SB yet & almost lost to the Ravens w/ Flacco wetting the bed in the 2nd half. The Colts offense was basically Luck going up against the entire Pats defense so that game is irrelevant.

>2013 denver 19th
Got crushed in the SB when their elite QB had a bad day.

>2012 ravens 17th
C'mon..they were a team full of vets that were banged up in the regular season (esp Ray-Ray) which is why they were mediocre.
The Ravens defense was a different animal in the postseason:
-They shutout the Pats in the 2nd half (the Pats were still one of the top ranked offenses even during the period after they lost Gronk b/c of Hernandez)
-Pro-bowler Luck had fellow pro-bowler Wayne & a rising TY at his disposal but he was held out of the end-zone along w/ the entire Colts' offense.
-They also held Peyton in check for the most part, it was their specials team that kept getting burnt by Holiday.
-49ers had nothing but a bunch of FGs before the lights went out. Most importantly, the defense came up w/ the TWO biggest play of the game when they stopped the 2 point conversion attempt followed by stopping the 49ers in the red-zone during a potential game winning drive.

>2011 giants 27th
See comments under Ravens 2012

>2009 saints 25th
Already acknowledged but even then they were a pretty good pass rushing defense & had two pro-bowler in the secondary which came in handy against Warner/Peyton. They just sucked at defending against the run.

>2006 colts 21st
Already acknowledge but they were lucky to face washed up Trent Green/McNair along w/ Grossman. Peyton only really had to carry them against the Pats during the postseason b/c the rest of the opposition were pretty anemic on offense.

The #1 & #2 ALL-TIME ranked offenses (2006-7 Pats / 2013-14 Broncos) were defeated by teams that didn't have any pro-bowl QBs (Eli & Russell) at the helms but just happened to have had an elite defense. Pro-Bowler Brady couldn't beat the 2014 Broncos & Rivers w/ FOUR Pro-Bowler just on offense couldn't beat the 2007 Pats.

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65. "im not reading all your pleas"
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You asked and I gave you 5 champs in the last 8 years with average to bad defenses

  

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67. "If the 2012 Ravens/2011 Giants are average then who's elite?"
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By your logic the 1994-5 Rockets were average just b/c of their regular season record. They only swept Shaq/Penny in the Finals just like the '11 Giants & '12 Ravens shut Brady's bitch ass up. If Brady got shut down by two average defenses in the muphuckin' Super Bowl then he should never be mentioned in the same breath as Montana.

The 2007 Giants weren't an elite regular season defense either but they held the #2 all-time ranked offense to 7 points until the latter end of the 4th quarter...7 muphuckin' point!

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113. "RE: Defense wins championships not QBs (Still true in 2017)"
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6. "Rodgers' case is more understandable"
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it's a QB league, but there are also more elite and just-under-elite level QBs than they're were in Favre's day.

edit: plus, you know, he's not done.

  

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8. "RE: Rodgers' case is more understandable"
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Rodgers is looking like Payton in the 'offs

Got outgunned by a retirement-home Kurt Warner.

15-1...lose at home to Eli

Two losses to Kaep at home.

Now choked away another big regular season.




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11. "cmon. "
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12. "That much nonsense doesn't even deserve a reply "
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13. "RE: cmon. "
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I mean...when does any of this fall on his shoulders???


If it was McNabb...

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"lol breh."


  

          

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4. "wrong spot"
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<<<< the Tate-over, ya breaks over

  

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7. "Montana/Young >>> Favre/Rodgers"
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9. "RE: Montana/Young >>> Favre/Rodgers"
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I think we can file that under "obviously"

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10. "a lot of the goats have one or none"
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Marino
Young
Peyton
Brees

It's really hard to win Super Bowls, and having a goat QB also means he's taking up a huge cap hit. Unless you got a GOAT coach as well, it's tough.

In other words, sign me up for two Super Bowl wins in 25 years right meow

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16. "Moon."
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34. "FIVE GREY CUPS THOUGH!!!!!"
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18. "RE: a lot of the goats have one or none"
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Has your team had 25 uninterrupted years of HOF QB play?

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14. "RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking..."
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Rothelisberger and Eli have two apiece tho.


Neither of those guys is as good as Farve or Rodgers.

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44. "i dont think the difference between Ben and Rodgers is significant"
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Not significant enough to meaningfully say that Pittsburgh has done more with less

  

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69. "RE: i dont think the difference between Ben and Rodgers is significant"
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Do you think that Rodgers playing poorly in ever NFCCG is part of the organization's problem getting over the hump?

You can't come out and put up a 55 rating with multiple interceptions every chip game and say you are the best...can you?


I ask because that is what's happening

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15. "RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking..."
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Either the importance of the QB is overblown


OR


The Packers are failing somewhere as an organization

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17. "RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking..."
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Rodegers 7-5 in the offs, 2-4 since the SB run where he accumulated the majority of his wins.

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20. "I don't think it requires an explanation. "
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Its not really a thing.

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22. "RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking..."
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When was Aaron Rodgers last truly great playoff performance against a strong opponent?


I ask because he really did not do anything this game.


Or in the games against Kaep.


Or, I dunno...that's why I am asking

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23. "SB vs Steelers.."
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25. "RE: SB vs Steelers.."
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Okay, I could see that.


For the record, on that playoff run he

barely beat (21-16) a 10-6 Eagles team that would go 8-8, then 4-12 in the following years. Reid was done after this basically.

legitimately blew out a kinda-decent-but-far-from-finished-product Atlanta team that would score only two points against the Giants in their trip to the playoff the next year.


squeezed by a Bears team belmed by Caleb Hanie that would never make the playoffs again, and whose coach would soon be fired (unjustly) and just had the league's worst record this season.

So he had one really great playoff game and a good SB that year.

Since that year, he has not had a single notworthy postseason performance.

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24. "it's hard as shit to win a super bowl. this is a terrible post."
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i mean damn. fucking dan marino doesn't even have one.

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26. "RE: it's hard as shit to win a super bowl. this is a terrible post."
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Dan Marino played for 25 years?

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28. "RE: it's hard as shit to win a super bowl. this is a terrible post."
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Why is it okay to shit on Peyton Manning then?


Rodgers playoff performances have been meh.


Green Bay has had an incredible run at QB and it has yielded no better results than those of lesser QBs in less time. It's worth noting.

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33. "How many franchises have one or zero in that same span?"
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I count 25 of dem bitches, out of a possible 31:

SEA
PHI
SF
CHI
OAK
WSH
MIN
DET
SD
BUF
CLE
HOU
NO
MIA
NYJ
ARI
IND
ATL
CAR
CIN
TB
KC
JAX
TEN
STL

Then you have PIT, NYG, DEN, BAL and DAL with two each since Favre's arrival in Green Bay. That brings up to 30 out of 31.

So in about 22 years, ONE franchise has won more championships. ONE.

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35. "RE: How many franchises have one or zero in that same span?"
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>I count 25 of dem bitches, out of a possible 31:
>
>SEA
>PHI
>SF
>CHI
>OAK
>WSH
>MIN
>DET
>SD
>BUF
>CLE
>HOU
>NO
>MIA
>NYJ
>ARI
>IND
>ATL
>CAR
>CIN
>TB
>KC
>JAX
>TEN
>STL
>
>Then you have PIT, NYG, DEN, BAL and DAL with two each since
>Favre's arrival in Green Bay. That brings up to 30 out of
>31.
>
>So in about 22 years, ONE franchise has won more
>championships. ONE.

Okay, how many of them besides the Packers had 25 years of uninterrupted HOF QB play?


Looks like zero to me.

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48. "You're ripping apart your own argument, man"
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The Packers have seldom if ever had a defense like Baltimore's and maybe once had a complete team like New England and the Steelers had in their title years. That goes to show the importance of the QB position to me. Largely on their strength at one position they have been as successful as literally ANY other franchise during that time span with a lone exception (NE, who also has had 15 years of HOF QB play plus Bledsoe before that). On top of that, they have been very competitive in years where they haven't one. This is just a hating-ass post. You'd fuck a whole stable full of donkeys in the ass for the Bears to have FIVE years of HOF QB play. I mean, the more I think about it, the more ironic this post is, given that the Bears haven't had a QB worth a shit since Sid Luckman and managed to waste the careers of tons of great players at other positions. Don't nobody remember the steps to the Super Bowl shuffle 30 years on, bruh.

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68. "RE: You're ripping apart your own argument, man"
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>The Packers have seldom if ever had a defense like
>Baltimore's and maybe once had a complete team like New
>England and the Steelers had in their title years. That goes
>to show the importance of the QB position to me. Largely on
>their strength at one position they have been as successful as
>literally ANY other franchise during that time span with a
>lone exception (NE, who also has had 15 years of HOF QB play
>plus Bledsoe before that). On top of that, they have been very
>competitive in years where they haven't one. This is just a
>hating-ass post. You'd fuck a whole stable full of donkeys in
>the ass for the Bears to have FIVE years of HOF QB play. I
>mean, the more I think about it, the more ironic this post is,
>given that the Bears haven't had a QB worth a shit since Sid
>Luckman and managed to waste the careers of tons of great
>players at other positions. Don't nobody remember the steps to
>the Super Bowl shuffle 30 years on, bruh.

The Bears are terrible. Why even bring them up in a post about what, I am told, is one of the NFL's greatest organizations, top-to-bottom?

When someone starts talking about Spygate does anyone bring up the Jaguars futility?

When questioning Peyton Manning's postseason failures, is it relevant to start talking about the Tennessee Titans lack of playoff wins?

Aaron Rodgers has been terrible in three straight NFCCG.


FLAT OUT TERRIBLE


If the Packers organizational goal was to be better than the Bears, then of course, this post would be pointless. I am working off the assumption that the Green Bay Packers have the bar set a little higher than that but hey, what do i know?

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71. "they are in the mix every year and he was playing on one leg lol"
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i thought i understood the motivation for the hate, but i guess not. it's still hate tho.

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36. "and the Colts have 1 in a similar timeframe (17 years), hard to win SB's"
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37. "RE: and the Colts have 1 in a similar timeframe (17 years), hard to win ..."
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Do people not take Peyton to task for not winning more titles?

Did Irsay not say they should have won more than one?


Does Rodgers inability to perform at a high level in the playoffs have no significance? Because Peyton is fried for it regularly.

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38. "RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking..."
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Aaron Rodgers is too risk-averse to win big playoff games.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/skeptical-football-the-aaron-rodgers-enigma/


It's the reason they flop every postseason when facing actual title contenders.

Can't play against Caleb Hanie every time. Even in that game, Rodgers didn't put many points on the board, BJ Raji had to win the game.

Let's talk about it.

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39. "Yeah...."
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This^^^^Bears fan is going to keep quiet about HOF Quarterbacks...

My hatred for Green Bay runs as deep as any Bears fan...And probably even more because I'm slightly older than most on this board...

But I'm going to check the QB drive-by at the door given how we haven't won a Super Bowl in like forever...

Fuck Rogers. I'm glad he took that nasty L.

But the Bears could only wish to have that level of QB on our team...

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41. "RE: Yeah...."
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>
>
>
>This^^^^Bears fan is going to keep quiet about HOF
>Quarterbacks...

Okay. Entirely your right. However, for my own part, I feel free to discuss any and all vagaries of the NFL which I find interesting.

>
>My hatred for Green Bay runs as deep as any Bears fan...And
>probably even more because I'm slightly older than most on
>this board...

Not me chief.

>
>But I'm going to check the QB drive-by at the door given how
>we haven't won a Super Bowl in like forever...

I have no intention of waiting until the Bears are competitive to ask questions about what defines "elite" QB's (which Rodgers surely is) and how that translates into postseason success or championship seasons.

The Bears are garbage. To quote Mssrs. Claw, "let's move on"

>
>Fuck Rogers. I'm glad he took that nasty L.
>
>But the Bears could only wish to have that level of QB on our
>team...

Yes. Also hopefully if we did, the team wouldn't lose in the exact same way every postseason.

Rodgers wants another ring he better be praying for Caleb Hanie to get a starting job again,

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40. "In that same space, the Giants did it 3 times with borderline BUMS."
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the most recent of which has shown QB behavior that might remove the "borderline" tag from his name in recent seasons.

the answer: Sports is some bullshit.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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47. "twice, no? they beat the bills before favre was even drafted, dude"
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or the same year, i forget, but either way his rookie year was with ATL. so that means the giants have done it twice during the favre/rodgers continuum.

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49. "oh, if we're talking about in the Favre span, then yeah, 2x."
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I was just thinking 25 years ago and that was what... exactly at '90

fuckin' Pats.

first they steal the Eagles' rings
then they give 2 to a BUM.

  

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51. "i so hope they lose this shit."
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77. "http://blog.nj.com/giants_impact/2007/10/medium_elim.JPG"
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http://blog.nj.com/giants_impact/2007/10/medium_elim.JPG

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42. "Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer have rings during that timespan too..."
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the moral of the story is, football is a team sport, genius.

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45. "RE: Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer have rings during that timespan too..."
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>the moral of the story is, football is a team sport, genius.

Okay, cause I heard that it's a QB league now.

I also heard that Peyton Manning is a postseason choker.

But what do I know.

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57. "RE: Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer have rings during that timespan too..."
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>>the moral of the story is, football is a team sport,
>genius.
>
>Okay, cause I heard that it's a QB league now.

It is right today, not necessarily over the last quarter of a century tho

>I also heard that Peyton Manning is a postseason choker.

I personally don't subscribe to that

>But what do I know.

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50. "You can be a lucky stiff at any position but IMO QB is very important"
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the media overblows it and a lot of individual guys are way overrated based on stats that they accumulate almost by default. but any coach at any level knows his QB is his bread, butter, meat, potatoes, pastry and foie gras. a line, a defense, yes, these are very important things but they function as units. the QB as an individual is unsurpassed in what he does on a team. honestly one could argue it's the most important position in any sport and that's really remarkable given the size of football rosters and how many players take the field at once. i think a basketball star can and often does have more impact, but he doesn't have to play one particular position. once in a while a goalie in hockey carries his team in a unique way, but a lot of the best had limited success in terms of winning it all.

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53. "QB is very important but: Elite D/Mediocre QB > Mediocre D/Elite QB"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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55. "A "D" is 15 to 18 players, a quarterback is one guy, dude."
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You are comparing a bushel of apples to one orange. That tells you key the orange is.

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58. "RE: A "D" is 15 to 18 players, a quarterback is one guy, dude."
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>You are comparing a bushel of apples to one orange. That
>tells you key the orange is.

Yeah but in the postseason an elite D usually beats an elite QB

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59. "And of course it's best to have both. And?"
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70. "I'm aware of that but folks actually treat the D as a single entity "
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Otherwise there would be no debating whether or not the person that touches the ball on every down has the most responsibility on an individual basis.

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46. "This post gets a C+ could of been higher with careful framing"
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the peyton comparison should have been included from the off.

As is it's speculative trolling


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56. "yea this would have been good"
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>the peyton comparison should have been included from the off.

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60. "RE: This post gets a C+ could of been higher with careful framing"
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I thought it was implicit.


Regardless, http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/skeptical-football-the-aaron-rodgers-enigma/


Is Aaron Rodgers risk aversion why he is such a mediocre postseason QB?

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62. "*pages OE, shells, and jersey*"
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>I thought it was implicit.
>
>
>Regardless,
>http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/skeptical-football-the-aaron-rodgers-enigma/
>
>
>Is Aaron Rodgers risk aversion why he is such a mediocre
>postseason QB?

  

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61. "so this whole shit was in defense of Peyton Manning?????"
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The fact that both of them were injured this year should absolve them both of a full out assault.

HOWEVER, to compare Aaron Rodgers' playoff struggles to Peyton is laughable.

My biggest and undisputed knock on Peyton has never been his won-loss record, but how poorly he's played in games where just a mediocre or good performance would have made a difference. When the majority of the money and attention is devoted to one side of the ball, to perform as poorly as he has in the biggest moments is a glaring shortcoming.

Aaron Rodgers has had some nice players on offense, but he never even had the same caliber of weapons Favre played with for the majority of his career, much less Peyton. He's put up ridiculous numbers without a bunch of pro bowlers at the skill positions.

Playoff football is funny, especially in the free agency era. The true talent gap is always closer than realized, and timing and rhythm are huge. I'll venture that Green Bay's coast to the league's best record, and the Giants week to week desperate situations had them playing in a totally different mentality.


Rodgers has had some lackluster games, but he's not even CLOSE to Peyton Manning's level of playoff futility, nevermind the fact that the Super Bowl he won he balled like a motherfucking pimp, whereas the MVP of the Colts Super Bowl was Addai/Rhodes and their Defense, at best.

  

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63. "RE: so this whole shit was in defense of Peyton Manning?????"
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No, it's about how we measure QB's influence on winning titles and what an "elite" QB should bring to table in postseason. Anongst other things.

>The fact that both of them were injured this year should
>absolve them both of a full out assault.
>

No one has even begun to question Rodgers in the way Manning is openly judged. 'Cept me.

>HOWEVER, to compare Aaron Rodgers' playoff struggles to Peyton
>is laughable.

Hmmm

>
>My biggest and undisputed knock on Peyton has never been his
>won-loss record, but how poorly he's played in games where
>just a mediocre or good performance would have made a
>difference. When the majority of the money and attention is
>devoted to one side of the ball, to perform as poorly as he
>has in the biggest moments is a glaring shortcoming.
>
Rodgers didn't do shit yesterday, or when his team folded against Niners twice or lost to Eli at home or anytime he played anyone besides Matt Ryan.

His defense had to bail him out against Caleb Hanie and Johnny Knox.

>Aaron Rodgers has had some nice players on offense, but he
>never even had the same caliber of weapons Favre played with
>for the majority of his career, much less Peyton. He's put up
>ridiculous numbers without a bunch of pro bowlers at the skill
>positions.
>

He has had the same caliber of offensive weapons as Farve. Oline has not been as good but that's not a "weapon"

>Playoff football is funny, especially in the free agency era.
>The true talent gap is always closer than realized, and timing
>and rhythm are huge. I'll venture that Green Bay's coast to
>the league's best record, and the Giants week to week
>desperate situations had them playing in a totally different
>mentality.
>

Very possible. But that goes for everyone. When Brady or Peyton get a bye and then fold up at home, no one comes copping these pleas.

>
>Rodgers has had some lackluster games, but he's not even CLOSE
>to Peyton Manning's level of playoff futility, nevermind the
>fact that the Super Bowl he won he balled like a motherfucking
>pimp, whereas the MVP of the Colts Super Bowl was Addai/Rhodes
>and their Defense, at best.

I'd say he is pretty close to Manning levels, to be honest. Most playoff games he just huffs about and stares at the scoreboard on the sideline shaking his head like a wino waiting for the liquor store to open up at 830am.

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66. "RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking..."
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Aaron Rogers has played in 3 NFCCG

Twice his passer rating was below 60.

The game he won he had less TD passes than Caleb Hanie and BJ Raji had to win the game. But for the record, here are his stats from that epic performance

17/30 for 244 yards, 0 TD's and 2 INTS


Against CALEB HANIE...



I really need someone to explain why this doesn't matter.



The greatest QB of all time has been flat-out TERRIBLE in every single NFCCG he has played in. On top of being extremely pedestrian in most of his other playoff appearances that didn't involve a dome.


Who are we blaming this on? Just so I am clear...


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72. "Rodgers Fault. Even cheeseeaters see it"
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http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/with-super-bowl-in-sight-aaron-rodgers-didnt-deliver-b99431306z1-289705111.html


The only question is, why are they surprised.

Rodgers is pretty mortal once the playoffs start.

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73. "Packers defense has been shit for 4 straight years"
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And they would have beaten a great Seahawks team with an injured Rodgers had the defense coaching and special teams not completely collapsed.


Meanwhile the bunch of cocksuckers you root for has nothing. Singletary couldn't coach a team of high schoolers, Sweetness is dead, Jim McMahon is gonna be dead of liver cirrhosis in 5 years, the Fridge may as well be dead, you've been to one Super Bowl since Reagan, you cant even lose to the Packers by less than 20 and you get Jay Cutler for the next 10 years.

You losers shouldn't even be allowed to utter the word Packers let alone talk about Qbing, a subject you clearly know nothing about.

So kindly Super Bowl Shuffle your ass out of NFL talk and go try to convince us Rose' knee won't explode or how you guys may actually get 2 games off Bron in the playoffs.

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74. "RE: Packers defense has been shit for 4 straight years"
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None of this explains why Rodgers playoff performances are so...bad? underwhelming?



This is the "best QB ever"...but he can't manage to have even a decent NFCCG?


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75. "RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking..."
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76. "had to wait a while for this one, eh? about half the season lol"
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they lost their first game of the year in a tough place to play against a great defense and another great quarterback. wow. this thread is pathetic, even by your generally low standards. obviously idgaf about the packers but cmon.

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79. "RE: had to wait a while for this one, eh? about half the season lol"
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I was just going to wait till the playoffs like normal.


But this was just another example of what we will see then, so why wait?


And when it does, I'll be right here asking a simple question. There has to be an explanation beyond "winning SB's is hard"


Maybe Ted Thompson is not as smart as everyone thinks? Maybe Rodgers is too risk-averse to win against great teams? Maybe it's Farve fault?


I'm just curious.

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84. "Question, did Favre win a Super Bowl? Did Rodgers?"
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Has Manning? Brady? Brees? Montana? Young?

You look at the past 30 years and while there have been exceptions like Dilfer and Brad Johnson, most of the teams have had great quarterbacks. Guys like Phil Simms who maybe weren't top-tier for their career but for the time they were winning, yes. You had like Rypien and Flacco as average guys but now we are up to what, like five out of 30 seasons where a great QB didn't win? The great QBs that have not won (e.g. Marino) was widely known because they are exceptions to the rule.

What exactly is your question here? Is it about the quarterback position? The Packers? Both seem to be doing just fine. The Packers, again, have been more successful in the last 30 years than 25 other franchises, and as successful as all but *one*. So I think their recipe is working.

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86. "RE: Question, did Favre win a Super Bowl? Did Rodgers?"
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No team has ever won the quarterback lottery like this. Unprecedented, especially for the guys to be this healthy.

If Peyton Manning can be taken to task for only winning one Superbowl, WHY, WHY, WHY can we not ask why the Packers shouldn't have won more over the last 25 years.

Consecutive elite-of-the-elite QBs, who are remarkably durable.
A front office and ownership that are widely lauded
Any number of other great supporting players that have been part of this franchise over that time.

And all of that adds up to the same number of titles as Eli Manning?

You think there is nothing remarkable here? I see a once-in-a-1000-lifetime situation that, on paper, would point towards a dynasty or at least a historic run.

Agree to disagree





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87. "part of manning getting ripped for only winning one"
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is that people put him in the GOAT conversation......i wasn't really watching football when Favre was at his best, were people putting him in that conversation? Rodgers isn't in it(yet?)

but yeah it is kinda crazy given what they have had to work with that they only won 2........Indy looks likr they may be in the middle of a similar run right now as well

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88. "RE: part of manning getting ripped for only winning one"
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Farve was indisputably one of the best QBs of his era, he's a first-ballot HOFer.

Rodgers, we are told, is already the best QB of all time who possesses a combination of skills and abilities heretefore unseen in the NFL.

Combine all their games missed due to injury and you wouldn't even have a single season out of that 25 years.


My query is a valid one.


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89. "i mean many would have favre in their top 10"
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at the end he was a little too wild but at his best he was incredibly fucking good.

shit bart starr was great, too, they only won TWO more super bowls with him? how paltry!

look at the browns, even in an era where players were way easier to get, they win a fistful of titles with otto graham and only *one* after he retires despite having many stars, including the greatest football player *ever*.

when both those franchises haven't had an elite QB, they have been totally forgettable, particularly the packers.

god this thread is dumb.

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91. "RE: i mean many would have favre in their top 10"
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Packers fans themselves speak openly about the fact that if they only get one title with Rodgers it will have been a waste.

When they asked Irsay about winning only one title with Peyton, he said it was a bit of a disappointment.


No team has EVER had this sort of UNINTERRUPTED run of QB play, not even close really.


But nobody can even ask the question if they should have won more titles?


Anyway, you have made your opinion known, you are not even addressing any points in the argument at this point, whyfore are you still up in this thread?

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78. "It's unprecedented because they had a great QB early in his career.."
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...

By the way this post is missing goodness by omitting Mark, Brunell, Kurt Warner, and Aaron Brooks. Don't Cuban B these solid starting QBs. Basically, Green Bay had Favre got even more pieces but had to part with them one way or another, then drafted Aaron. Letting a first round QB sit for years basically guarantees success. IF the QB is a first round caliber QB then sitting him means he churns out pro bowl performances frequently.

TL;DR it's unprecedented but how many teams in the NFL are afforded that luxury? How many teams have a great QB and are in position to draft his replacement that is a legit first round QB talent only to let him sit for years? This ain't remotely a shot at GB but BRING THE SLANDER.

  

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80. "RE: It's unprecedented because they had a great QB early in his career.."
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I'm saying though, shouldn't they be fucking wallowing in titles?


They had one of the great QBs of his era and now, according to "experts", have the greatest QB ever. Both of them were incredibly durable and had great leadership qualities. Both were supported by an organization that is the envy of the league, or so we are told.



what giveth?

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81. "It's hard to win in the NFL consistently unless you're cheating...."
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>I'm saying though, shouldn't they be fucking wallowing in
>titles?
>
>
>They had one of the great QBs of his era and now, according to
>"experts", have the greatest QB ever. Both of them were
>incredibly durable and had great leadership qualities. Both
>were supported by an organization that is the envy of the
>league, or so we are told.
>
>
>
>what giveth?

In all honesty the most the rest of the league, excluding one team that perpetually cheats and is involved in scandals, can do is merely be in the conversation during the playoffs. Division and conference titles count as accomplishments due to consistency. Once again, it's hard to win one game in the NFL yet alone consistent division titles each year. Don't negate the fact that teams need a solid offensive line, running backs, wide receivers etc. They need at least a good to great corner, borderline pro bowl linebacker, solid safeties, and serviceable defensive line. These are things the organization needs to do to at least win a title.

Another thing, the Packers play in a tough division. None of this guaranteed wins in the division Cheatriots fuckery. That division is quite difficult so this makes their accomplishments even more impressive.

TL;DR Winning a title is difficult because it comes down to luck of the draw, injuries, and team chemistry at the right time.

  

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82. "LOL @ the mighty NFC North"
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Two of the teams have the most turnover prone QBs you'd ever see not named Luck.

  

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83. "RE: It's hard to win in the NFL consistently unless you're cheating...."
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>>I'm saying though, shouldn't they be fucking wallowing in
>>titles?
>>
>>
>>They had one of the great QBs of his era and now, according
>to
>>"experts", have the greatest QB ever. Both of them were
>>incredibly durable and had great leadership qualities. Both
>>were supported by an organization that is the envy of the
>>league, or so we are told.
>>
>>
>>
>>what giveth?
>
>In all honesty the most the rest of the league, excluding one
>team that perpetually cheats and is involved in scandals, can
>do is merely be in the conversation during the playoffs.
>Division and conference titles count as accomplishments due to
>consistency. Once again, it's hard to win one game in the NFL
>yet alone consistent division titles each year. Don't negate
>the fact that teams need a solid offensive line, running
>backs, wide receivers etc. They need at least a good to great
>corner, borderline pro bowl linebacker, solid safeties, and
>serviceable defensive line. These are things the organization
>needs to do to at least win a title.

Other teams have managed to win multiple titles, in less time, with lesser QB's. Montana and Young yielded a lot more than the longer reign of Rodgers/Farve has thus far.

If you are elite AND healthy at the game's most important position for a quarter-century and fail to really put together some hardware, isn't that evidence that SOMEONE is fucking up?

Shouldn't Green Bay's front office be held accountable, if no one else?

>
>Another thing, the Packers play in a tough division. None of
>this guaranteed wins in the division Cheatriots fuckery. That
>division is quite difficult so this makes their
>accomplishments even more impressive.

Packers division was tough a long time ago, it's been cupcakes for a while though. Trust me.

>
>TL;DR Winning a title is difficult because it comes down to
>luck of the draw, injuries, and team chemistry at the right
>time.

Is there any luckier thing than having an all-time great at QB for 25 years, with less starts missed in that time than Sam Bradford already has in his "career"???

They have had plenty of luck, their most important player is almost always healthy in that time span, and they have the most homegrown players of any franchise by a long way and boast about it often, so if they are lacking team chemistry, dunno who to blame.

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85. "side note, it would be crazy if Rodgers didn't get another ring"
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and ends up with the exact same amount of hardware as Favre. cuz so many people criticize Favre for how he played when he was way past his prime and remember the bone crushing picks he threw more than appreciate how great he was for a good stretch of the late 90s where it seemed like he'd be MVP every year.

  

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90. "not that crazy, winning a super bowl is hard"
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i am more curious to see if luck can ever equal manning's one. that, to me, is a very similar situation, no?

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92. "RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking..."
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93. "RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking..."
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94. "RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking..."
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At some point, there has to be some sort of answer beyond "winning superbowls is hard"

Maybe it's time to sign free agents?

Maybe it's time to focus on building a defense?

Maybe quarterback is not as dominant a position as people claim?

Maybe Aaron Rodgers is not as good as people claim?


I don't know but I think that we, the people, deserve an answer.


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95. "This post gets the award for "most surprising mileage""
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I really didn't think this one would last as long as it has but you have done an outstanding job. I take back my original C+ rating and grant this a A-

Good effort good job

  

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96. "They good with one elite defender, so AR gets ALL the credit"
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He been CARRYING the team for years now. Wack o-line and weak D....without the great AR, they'd be trash. And that narrative is fine with AR and his fans. They got their ring and it's been about padding ever since.

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97. "RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking..."
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Rodgers was won 50% of his playoff games at Lambeau.


Farve won 70%.



Let's discuss and after much debate, blame someone black on defense.

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98. "http://oi65.tinypic.com/2moul5c.jpg"
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99. "1st in what? packers are still behind the vikings"
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this is a weird uppage since the post is about SB trophies. you guys are making basa's arguments for him.

  

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101. "1st in working Rodgers belt .gifs I googled"
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>this is a weird uppage since the post is about SB trophies.
>you guys are making basa's arguments for him.

this is a weird comment since dude was upping this post the past several weeks after GB lost a few games following a 6-0 start, which is what I was responding to. also weird since basa didn't make this post, or even start this agenda, but you think it's about him. he has co-opted the brady agenda from you guys though, so have fun with that.

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100. "RE: http://oi65.tinypic.com/2moul5c.jpg"
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The post is not about whether Aaron Rodgers is a upper echelon QB. He is. The post is about why 25 years of upper echelon QB play within the confines of a stable and prudent organization and consistent contention has failed to yield more dividends in terms of titles.


There must be a reason, or confluence of them. I personally think it's a combination of Rodger's risk-averse approach to the game (and before him Farve's overly-risky style) that causes him to struggle against good defenses in the playoffs, and a front office that plays it TOO safe in their approach to player acquisition and roster-building.


It is not only a fair question to ask, it is one Packers fans must already be asking themselves. It is "Titletown", is it not? They moved the goalposts to this very point upon which I am standing, and after having received a bounty of uninterrupted elite QB play that no franchise had EVER seen before or is likely to see again, they have the same number of titles as Eli Manning.






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102. "RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking..."
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So...are we blaming Mike McCarthy now? I thought I saw that going around and if that's happening, I think it should happen in this post.


Together we have got to be able to come up with a reason why this is happening.

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103. "RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking..."
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This was Rodgers 14th straight game, including the playoffs, with a passer rating under 100. His fourth-quarter interception -- just his second in a road game against the Vikings and first since 2009 -- that wrapped up the game for the Vikings left him with a rating of 70.7. This from the guy who came into the season as the NFL's career passer rating leader (104.1).

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104. "he's extremely careless with the ball too"
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105. "RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking..."
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So...is QB just not as important a position as everyone says it is? Is Risk-Averse-Rodgers just overrated? Or is Ted Thompson not the genius everyone says he is?


One of you smart guys must have an answer because the "GOAT QB" is 4-4 despite having a really good team around him and it doesn't look like Green Bay is going anywhere but their usual quick playoff exit.


What's the answer guys? Because it's gonna be thirty straight years of HOF quarterbacking very soon...

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106. "RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking..."
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Another terrible playoff game from Rodgers when his team needed him most SMH


I still want to know if this is Ted Thompson's fault or Rodgers or what the issue is.

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107. "It's easier blaming Thompson than Rodgers"
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The telecast showed a stat that listed Rodgers' TD/INT ratio as 1/5 in Conference Championship games.

Rodgers hasn't played great today and his lack of production in Championship games is a pattern which gets under-reported.

But there have been a number of drops and his best receiver is gutting out an injury that probably would leave him out of the game if this game were played in the regular season.

But as great as Rodgers is as a player, it is perplexing how they only have the 1 SB.

But the team was patched together all year and really they had no business making it this far. Winning 10? games in a row is difficult and I can't think of many quarterbacks who could have pulled that off, really two years ago.

Most SB winning QB's, even Brady, have had SB runs where the QB was bailed out by a solid running game or the defense played well enough to have the team overcome a poor game by the GB

But as great as Rodgers is as a player, it is perplexing how they only have the 1 SB.

Obviously they've won a number of games and had some bad luck, like when they went 15-1 and just ran into the Giants that year and lost in the playoffs.

They haven't had a strong defense except the entire time, their offensive line has been inconsistent and they don't have a solid running back which are under the control of the GM.

But I guess the question is, "Who do you get to replace the management?" It's hard to get rid of a GM/Coach team which has won the division a number of years over their tenure.

  

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114. "If their career ended today, I'm giving the nod to Brees"
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Brees' SB run was better than Rodgers' where he beat Pey-Pey, Favre & Warner along the way without throwing a single interception. He also made the Aints relevant & has the numbers to back it up:

"Since joining the Saints in 2006, he has led all NFL quarterbacks in touchdowns, passing yards, and 300-yard games. Brees has passed for over 5,000 yards in a season five times—no other NFL quarterback has done so more than once. He has led the NFL in passing touchdowns four times, and in passing yards a record seven times."

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120. "I can't argue with you"
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I think Rodgers is a more spectacular player, but Brees' consistency is what makes him stand out over Rodgers. As much as the Packers rely on Rodgers, I think the Saints ask more of Brees game in and game out. The fact that he put up good numbers the last couple of years on teams which didn't have the same talent as years before speaks to his ability.

  

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108. "Going to be a lot of blame on McCarthy, but this game isn't on him"
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Though he isn't a very good coach and has probably cost them at least a couple playoff games during his tenure.

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109. "that dude is one of the worst active coaches in the NFL"
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and Godgers is the only reason he remains that way IMO

  

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117. "it's on him, Capers and their trash GM equally"
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the only reason all 3 of them still employed is because of Rodgers.

that defense been trash for 5+ years.
they aint had a real running back in 5+ years (fat lacy and the wide receiver do not count)

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119. "RE: it's on him, Capers and their trash GM equally"
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>the only reason all 3 of them still employed is because of
>Rodgers.

But Rodgers has been pretty terrible in playoff losses.

>
>that defense been trash for 5+ years.

Mediocre, sure, trash seems a bit much.

>they aint had a real running back in 5+ years (fat lacy and
>the wide receiver do not count)

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110. "A quarter century of injuring your receivers "
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111. "rodgers is 0-34 now when trailing by 9+ in the 4th quarter."
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since someone apparently deleted that other perfectly-relevant thread.

  

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112. "RE: rodgers is 0-34 now when trailing by 9+ in the 4th quarter."
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>since someone apparently deleted that other
>perfectly-relevant thread.


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129. "Is it seriously deleted?"
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132. "yeah"
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i upped it in the 4th quarter, then it was gone like 20-30 seconds later.

  

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115. "Because it's a team sport"
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116. "RE: Because it's a team sport"
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So…have they totally failed at building good teams and just been a sham held together by superstar QBs?

That seems farfetched

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118. "the last 5 years yeah. "
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other than Rodgers and the WR corps that team is largely trash and has been for years.

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122. "Yes outside of their offense and really passing attack"
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they are terrible.

Ahmad Green was their last best runningback.

Their defense has gotten progressively worse.



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126. "RE: Yes outside of their offense and really passing attack"
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>they are terrible.
>
>Ahmad Green was their last best running back.


Their system doesn't care about running backs. And Lacy was a ROY candidate. Do better

>
>Their defense has gotten progressively worse.

Also not true, and how did the defense have anything to do with Rodgers consistent habit of laying an egg in their playoff losses?
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127. "Eddie Lacey is fat and that season was fools gold"
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Also it has been well known the weakness of GB is the D especially the secondary.

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128. "RE: Eddie Lacey is fat and that season was fools gold"
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>Also it has been well known the weakness of GB is the D
>especially the secondary.
>
>

Why do you refuse to address Rodgers play in these elimination games?


He hasn't been willing incredible offensive performances only to be undone by shitty defense.


FOR THE MOST PART, he has played poorly, turned the ball over and missed throws during listless offensive performances, not unlike this most recent one.

Against Seattle it was Green BAy's offense which repeatedly choked in the red zone when their defense kept getting them the ball and field position.

The year he went to the SB, Rodgers barely outplayed Bears 3rd stringer Caleb Hanie in a terrible game for the supposed GOAT QB. The Packers victory was sealed not by Rodgers, who struggled all day, but by BJ Raji getting an improbable pick 6 and the defense dominating on the road.


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121. "RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking..."
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Rodgers became the only quarterback to start six consecutive postseasons without reaching a Super Bowl in any of them, according to ESPN Stats & Information

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123. "damn..."
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>Rodgers became the only quarterback to start six consecutive
>postseasons without reaching a Super Bowl in any of them,
>according to ESPN Stats & Information

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124. "So he's been dragging a sub-par squad farther than they shld've gone"
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125. "RE: So he's been dragging a sub-par squad farther than they shld've gone"
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Is that why he plays horribly in their losses?


He has had a bad game every time they got bounced from the playoffs except way back when Kurt Warner was playing and the team was stacked top to bottom. And lost, obviously

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130. "vs Atlanta the D gave up 44, and Rodgers led the team in rushing"
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>Is that why he plays horribly in their losses?
>
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>He has had a bad game every time they got bounced from the
>playoffs except way back when Kurt Warner was playing and the
>team was stacked top to bottom. And lost, obviously

Hate him all you want, but he's carrying a mediocre team.

  

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131. "RE: vs Atlanta the D gave up 44, and Rodgers led the team in rushing"
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>>Is that why he plays horribly in their losses?
>>
>>
>>He has had a bad game every time they got bounced from the
>>playoffs except way back when Kurt Warner was playing and
>the
>>team was stacked top to bottom. And lost, obviously
>
>Hate him all you want, but he's carrying a mediocre team.

HE played POORLY though! They are not a running team, Rodgers leading them in rushing is not some new thing.

He was inaccurate early and through halftime. Peep how many times his receivers (Cook especially) had to make difficult catches. The commentators were even talking about it.

HE simply did not play well.

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133. "Here's a major flaw I'm seeing in your arguments"
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You cite how everytime they get eliminated he plays poorly and keep asking how many elimination games he lost by playing poorly.

But also, how many eliminations games have the Packers won because of how well he played?

If the argument is they were never a great team and they live or die based on his play, then credit has to be given for all of the wins he led like the Dallas game.

Every other great QB in history with multiple super bowls has had playoff games where they didn't play that well but the rest of the team stepped up and won the game. That's happened for Rodgers what, 1 time? that you mentioned above? Brady, Manning, Ben, Eli and every other QB with multiple super bowls has been bailed out of bad playoff games by his D. Rodgers doesn't get that, he has to be at the top of his game to win every single playoff game.

I have no horse here, I'm not a Packers fan and Rodgers should have more wins given his talent, but if you are going to cite bad play in elimination games you have to cite good play in elimination games and the same issues other winning QBS have had as well.

  

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134. "RE: Here's a major flaw I'm seeing in your arguments"
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BUT HE DID GET BAILED OUT…AGAINST THE BEARS…THE ONLY TIME HE EVER MADE IT TO THE SB.

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135. "RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking..."
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And we are still in the same place…

EXCEPT NOW ITS THIRTY YEARS

And the murmurs are fucking open secrets now.


No one was saying it after he out dueled Caleb Hanie, just me.


But people started to notice as the years went by...DODGERS TOO SCARED TO PULL THE TRIGGER!


And pretty soon a few other voices were pointing out the Emperors stat-facular attire:

https://twitter.com/fduffy3/status/801535503346651137


But it took time, and repeated rinse-wash-repeat Packers seasons to end up back here again.

Oh wait COOLEH he was hurt last year!

Oh hey, I wonder if it's cause he held the ball forever like always?

But yeah, time passed and Rodgers has become a person people vaguely know is good but everyone knows-without-admitting isn't actually the guy you want when your team has the game on the line.


No…no one would. Cause Dodgers will not take you any further and it will be more boring getting there.


And now let us go to the DEBACLE IN DETROIT as narrated by Wisconsin's paper of record*

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/dougherty/2018/10/07/dougherty-predictable-packers-struggling-just-follow-usual-script/1538712002/

One of Rodgers’ great assets is turning bad plays into good ones by breaking the pocket and finding somebody downfield. McCarthy has even built those improvisations into his offense.

But off and on over the years it’s been very much a double-edged sword, because things bog down when Rodgers too often passes up an open receiver early in hopes of finding something better later. The Lions, in fact, invited that by rushing only four, giving second and third efforts to chase him down when Rodgers moved around, and covering with seven or even sometimes eight players.

Twice the Lions strip-sacked Rodgers on extended plays in the first half that led directly to 10 big points and a 24-0 halftime deficit that was just too much to overcome.

“I had a couple real bad ones,” Rodgers said.

Rodgers’ final numbers looked good — he passed for 442 yards and a 108.0 rating — but he did not play well. Two lost fumbles don’t show up in passer rating, but they surely change games just as much as interceptions. And as he has the last few weeks, he missed a couple big throws that could have changed the game, too.

“If I hit Davante (Adams) on that first drive he might score on a crossing route,” Rodgers said.

*no sarcasm intended


OR HEY JUST ASK TJ LANG PACKERS VETERAN OFFENSIVE LINEMAN

“We love the extended plays and all the miraculous things that he can do, because he can do it anywhere from any point in time on the field. It doesn’t matter what the situation or the fundamental flaw he’s in, he can drop a dime anywhere he wants,” left tackle David Bakhtiari said. “(But) I think there’s a double-edge sword to it.

“There are times that I thoroughly enjoy ‘12’ bailing me out of situations, and being able to feel the rush and evade it. And then there are times when he’ll evade some rush right into my block, or he’ll be running around like a chicken with his head cut off. So I think it’s good and bad on both ends, but at the end of the day, he makes unbelievable plays with the extended stuff. So there are good things we can take away from that.

“What goes into it is not as many times is he going to be holding the ball for the over three to four seconds. That extra second can go by really quick, and a lot of people don’t notice, but that’s the difference between having a clean pocket and having a collapsed pocket.”


I know people are going to come in here talking about his knee is hurt, blah blah blah but look folks. he is not some young kid just cutting his teeth anymore. I mean, to be real, his prime is over and the back end of it is not very pretty right now.

Sure Eli in the same (worse) boat but Eli let them fly when he had his chances and he has two rings.

Blame Dodgers or blame Green Bay, I dunno but they struck a oil twice in a row and ended up with a nice split-level in Seacausus with a new midsize sedan in the carport.

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137. "RE: dogg the kicker missed 13 points of kicks "
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If you don't watch the games, don't bother me please.

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138. "DID YOU WATCH THAT GAME?!?!?!?"
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Aaron Rodgers was not a problem at all.

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140. "RE: DID YOU WATCH THAT GAME?!?!?!?"
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Dog, he said HIMSELF that he blew it!


HE FUMBLED TWICE IN THE FIRST HALF LEADING TO DETROIT SCORES AND THEY WERE BAD FUMBLES


HE HELD THE BALL WHILE LOOKING AT A WIDE OPEN DEVIANT ADAMS STREAKING FOR A LIKELY TD ON THAT SLANT AND DIDN"T THROW IT


HE WAS OFF TARGET THE WHOLE FIRST HALF AND NOT SEEING THE FIELD


Then in the second half he poured the stats on against a prevent D



The Packers have been losing at halftime of every game this season. Rodgers stats at halftime of EVERY GAME have been terrible.


SHOW ME WHERE I AM WRONG


EXPLAIN TO ME HOW RODGERS WAS NOT PART OF THE PROBLEM!


He said he was, the Green Bay media and fans say he was, the stats say he was…but…what?

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143. "Did you watch the game?"
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144. "RE: Did you watch the game?"
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Yes, the Bears on a bye and I watch Packers games, and division games in general.


And if you think I switch off Packers games when they are getting their heads split to the tune of their worst half in a decade, you are wrong.

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149. "I have no problem shitting on the Packers or Rodgers"
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But for christ sake he was throwing to JV guys and they refused to run the ball against a horrible run D.

At halftime i had no doubt they were gonna win. The kicking was just unfortunate.

Fuck the bears and their bye also.

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139. "lmfao"
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141. "RE: dogg the kicker missed 13 points of kicks "
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And let's SAY the kicker made all those kicks, one of which was a fucking fifty-six harder, but I guess that's nothing to you guys.


So, SB contender Packers beat the fucking beleaguered Detroit Lions 38-36?


Wow, amazing!!!!


Rodgers for MVP!!!!



Man, motherfuckers love empty stats...

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142. "Thats now how things work but yea Rodgers sucks, I agree "
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145. "RE: Thats now how things work but yea Rodgers sucks, I agree "
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Okay, well if that's all you have to add, just dip up out the thread.


I watch the games. I watched his whole career. I brought stats. I brough anecdotal evidence. This shit is now an open discussion in the wider NFL.


Ted Thompson, the architect of the Packers draft and develop philosophy is out and rapidly being discredited.

MM is on a hot seat and him and Rodgers relationship is frayed.

Rodgers is having a terrible season.

The Packers window slammed shut and they are taking L's from the LOLions and yes, the Bears whose quarterback is a meathead college senior who can't even throw to his left.


But all you have is more sarcasm.


It's okay, the post was looking more and more on target every year, and now it's looking like prescience. Either engage, or go play somewhere, it's all the same to me.


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148. "If the kicker makes the kicks the game plays out differently"
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146. "Dog please keep preaching this sermon"
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We all know A-aron is a hall of famer, but that doesn't mean this team isn't deeply dependant on freestyling, off-script offensive football.

When shit goes right, its brilliant

when shit goes wrong, these MF miss the playoffs (often)

They keep trying to pull Rodgers back on script into something of a normal offense to prolong his career and he isn't having any of it.

Now McCarthy beefing with dude because of it.

Rodgers is going to the HOF just like farve, and he will not finish his career in GB

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147. "RE: Dog please keep preaching this sermon"
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I am still trying to understand how Rodgers became the ONE qb you can't say anything about on here.


WHY?



Oh and Rodgers beloved "off-script-magic"…well, it's part of why the Packers don't win rings. And every year he gets slower and more beat up, and since he is too much of a perfectionist to risk throwing into tight windows, takes more sacks, takes the offense out of rhythm and wears out his linemen.


And the returns on those broken plays are getting lower with each year that passes. And the injuries are going to become chronic.

Of course, then the plea will be that he has struggled with injuries late in his career. Every fucking QB ever besides Eli has struggled with injuries late in his career.




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151. "this is mind-boggling"
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>I am still trying to understand how Rodgers became the ONE qb
>you can't say anything about on here.

Because every other great athlete has been shit on here. Favre, Brady, Manning, Jordan, Kobe, Lebron.

But criticizing Aaron Rodgers is too far for most people? Him?

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152. "Yesterday was not the day"
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When the Browns lost because their kicker forgot how to kick and people tried to blame Tyrod that noise got shut down like it should have. Yesterday was WAY worse than that. That's where I'm at. He is not above criticism. The thing I find funny about all this is that he gets roasted harder here than Stafford does in Detroit and Matty IceCream has won exactly nothing ever.


>>I am still trying to understand how Rodgers became the ONE
>qb
>>you can't say anything about on here.
>
>Because every other great athlete has been shit on here.
>Favre, Brady, Manning, Jordan, Kobe, Lebron.
>
>But criticizing Aaron Rodgers is too far for most people? Him?
>

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154. "At some point it's cumulative..."
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>When the Browns lost because their kicker forgot how to kick
..and yesterday he had a terrible first half and bore as much blame for them being down as anyone.



>and people tried to blame Tyrod that noise got shut down like
>it should have. Yesterday was WAY worse than that. That's
>where I'm at.

He fumbled twice, leading to scores and missed open receivers in the first half.

He is not above criticism. The thing I find
>funny about all this is that he gets roasted harder here than
>Stafford does in Detroit and Matty IceCream has won exactly
>nothing ever.

No one calls Stafford the GOAT of anything except empty stats and Ramen Noodles has his own multi-year thread with more numbers than this one.

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155. "It must be me just completely hating the Lions"
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the one fumble he held the ball way too long, but both of those turnovers were really good defensive plays, its not like Rodgers fucked around and fumbled.

I really do sound like he can do no wrong. I get it while not getting it.

Fuck him and fuck wisconsin.

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150. "Lot of stalled drives. It's never Aaron's fault tho. "
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158. "RE: A quarter century of HOF Quarterbacking..."
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Its funny, I had the same reaction yesterday thru halftime anyways. I can't stand Rodgers or the Packers so take glee when they look like shit which they did the first half. Started texting my buddy, man if Brady had a game like this, he'd have hit the cliff and they wouldn't let up but the baaaaad man gets a pass.

Then the 2nd half happened and thought the Lions were gonna Lion there way to Rodgers comeback. Luckily that didn't happen so didn't have to look completely stupid, just semi-stupid. lol

  

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153. "What is the average duration of a Packer WR's career?"
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compared to the rest of the NFL.

I think this is part of the problem, particularly with Favre. Too many wideouts left hanging to dry leads to injuries, shortened careers.

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156. "RE: What is the average duration of a Packer WR's career?"
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>compared to the rest of the NFL.
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>I think this is part of the problem, particularly with Favre.
>Too many wideouts left hanging to dry leads to injuries,
>shortened careers.


Rodgers actually doesn't hang receivers out to dry. If you are not open, he is not going to throw it.

Which is part of why he is not Farve, but also probably part of his problem once you get into those playoffs games where those are the throws you have to be willing to make, unless you have a HOF defense behind you.

And even then…Eli has no business in a Hall of Fame, but he makes those throws, win or lose. That's a big part of why he has two rings. He also doesn't hold the ball and get hit, he rather hang the receiver out to dry like Brett

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157. "Ultimate team sport"
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People don't seem to realize that.

THE TAMPA BAY BUCS won a superbowl

The Baltimore Ravens won a superbowl.

As good as Russell Wilson is NOW his TEAM was overall BETTER.

Them early Patriot championship teams WERE BETTER than BRADY as a individual.

Don't forget coaching.

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159. "I’m sure he’ll say his knee hurt or something "
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Amirite?

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161. "He beat CJ GOAT Beathard"
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Checkmate

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162. "So we agree he played like shit last night?"
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163. "If the Patriots spent most of the game trailing CJ and the Niners"
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But Brady led a comeback and won the game, would a Brady hate post get upped?

Or Brees? Ben? Hell, Matt Ryan?

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