4. "Yea that's what it'll come to, Retire near the top or fade out slowly" In response to Reply # 3
I think he wants to win another ring so bad that he'll come back for at least one more try but once we really see him deteriorate I think he'll walk away without hesitation.
it is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - sherlock holmes
10. "At this point no, and it's not a knock on him at all" In response to Reply # 7
Heading into the 2015-2016 season I would at the bare minimum take:
Rodgers, Wilson and Luck before him.
That's without bringing the Brady debate in or anyone else you may want to debate. I don't think if we are talking about what QB you want on your team for a full season starting today those 3 can come after Peyton.
5. "Broncos can still win a title, just can't rely on Peyton only" In response to Reply # 2
They really established a run game at the end of the season, a full season of that to help keep Peyton fresh and healthy and a few breaks their way and they can still take a title home with this roster.
9. "He can still rack up some regular season wins" In response to Reply # 0
But when it comes to playoffs he's done. His body is failing him. The conditions have to be perfect. I think if he played in a dome it would help. But dude looked like he was throwing a Nerf football out there. The Colts' defense isn't even that good and they made him look pedestrian.
22. "He will gain a weapon by them replacing Welker and Denver will mortgage" In response to Reply # 16
their long-term cap/roster future to give it another go.
And by the way, Hakeem Tallib was actually picked on and abused yesterday while those old d-ends never touched Luck.
Peyton might also hope to be healthier next January, which is a gamble of course based on age and ability to recover.....however it's a gamble you make if you love to play football and they wanna pay you 19 million to do so.
25. "yeah that was more meant for Ware, tho Miller does feel older than 25" In response to Reply # 23
perhaps due to already having ACL surgery, a drug suspension and some legal issues on the resume.
But yeah, he does seem to be a bit of that Brian Orakpo in him where he ends seasons with good sack numbers but usually while feasting in games against weak opponents when he has a mismatch but overall he's not always having an impact in big spots against better comp.
21. "oh I could think of a few others likely bigger than that" In response to Reply # 13
1) NINETEEN MILLION DOLLARS
2) LOVING TO PLAY FOOTBALL
3) Being on a pretty good team who have had a puncher's chance every season he's been there so far and likely will again next season while again mortgaging future funds and assets.
4) Said team run by a guy who won two Super Bowls at the end of his career being less than Peyton Manning was this year.
5) Not wanting to end his career on a playoff loss to the franchise and QB who replaced him.
6) Knowing that he was having one of the most statistically effective seasons he's ever had before being slowed by the torn quad issue in the final month.
7) aforementioned guy running team likely consulting him on the next coach.
8) 19 Million to play his 19th year in the league.
9) The competitive pride and drive that helped him become Peyton Manning.
24. "The more weapons thing is like WTF" In response to Reply # 0
Outside of Gronk, my Patriots have far less weapons for Brady to work with than what Manning has in Denver. I'd take them receivers any day over Edelman, Lafell, and Amendola.
36. "Gronk is so much better than any Bronco weapon it's silly" In response to Reply # 34
to even talk about as if Brady's somehow slighted here.
Half the dudes on Denver either are hurt/finished like Welkah or have a name primarily due to Peyton Manning giving them one as he did countless guys in Indy and bums like Eric Decker.
I like both Thomas boys fine but if you think either of them is as dependable or as much of a freak mismatch as a healthy Cro-Magnum-Man mutation like Gronkowski then I don't know what to tell you.
Even Belasterisk's pressed-to-trade-guys-early ass would hang up on the Broncos wanting to swap any of them for Gronk.
30. "I actually don't think that's totally the case" In response to Reply # 28
He has a huge ego and he'll keep chasing rings and numbers as long as he has a reasonable chance of doing so, but he already came close to retiring once and he has actual interests outside of football (mostly business related). By most accounts Brady is actually the guy who doesn't have much of a life outside of football, but Peyton has already come close to seeing the light at the end of the tunnel and he'll plenty of other things to do once he retires and I'm sure he'll have a media spot open for him if he feels like it.
32. "I think he's way too famous/good to be a coach" In response to Reply # 31 Tue Jan-13-15 05:17 PM by MothershipConnection
Most of the great coaches topped out as bench players, journeyman starters at best.
Plus could you imagine actually getting coached by that guy? "Alright LeQuan that's actually supposed to be 4 Omaha's as in Omaha Omaha OMAHA Omaha with an accent on the 3rd - NOW RUN THAT SHIT BACK! And I know you'll be giving up dessert at the dining hall for you and the guys to practice routes in the quad RIGHT?"
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