"FYI: THE NFL players with the most GOD GIVEN talent are WHITE"
Many of them, at least
QB: Luck (Fast, strong, hairy) OL: Many TE: Gronk (#1 All-time...by miles) DL: Watt (Among the best god given ability ever) WR: Nelson (Top 3 today) LB: Kuechly (strong, sideline to sideline speed better than anyone by miles)
I want less discussion about their "motor" and their "love of the game"
I want more about their "god given ability" and their "abilities that you can't teach" and how you get "pure talent like that once in a lifetime"
Orbit_Consistency
That's all that I'm afteeer (c) Mike
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2. "God gave them High Motors" In response to Reply # 0
Also I might replace Luck with Rodgers for that ridiculous high motor coach on the field laser he has for a right arm, but the point would still stand.
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7. "Does anyone doubt guys like Watt and Gronk are athletic freaks?" In response to Reply # 0
And does being an athletic freak mean you don't have a "motor?"
I don't think motor is a code word, I mean when I think of guys with a motor and their being described that way, I think mostly of black athletes. AI, GP, Spree in the NBA all spring to mind. A lot of black defensive ends in the NFL.
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8. "Gronk's natural gifts > Randy Moss' natural gifts" In response to Reply # 7 Wed Dec-17-14 02:16 PM by Orbit_Established
Plus, has been more of an irresponsible asshole and bad teammate as an ADULT than Moss ever was
Gronk will end up #1 all-time at his position because the gap between him and the 2nd most gifted tight end ever (whoever the fuck that is...probably Kellen Winslow Sr) is larger than between Moss and the #2 gifted receiver probably Megatron
I want this to be the FOCUS
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>Plus, has been more of an irresponsible asshole >and bad teammate as an ADULT than Moss ever was
by what measure?
>Gronk will end up #1 all-time at his position because >the gap between him and the 2nd most gifted tight end >ever (whoever the fuck that is...probably Kellen Winslow >Sr) is larger than between Moss and the #2 gifted receiver >probably Megatron
>>Plus, has been more of an irresponsible asshole >>and bad teammate as an ADULT than Moss ever was > >by what measure?
By mine, the only one that matters.
>>Gronk will end up #1 all-time at his position because >>the gap between him and the 2nd most gifted tight end >>ever (whoever the fuck that is...probably Kellen Winslow >>Sr) is larger than between Moss and the #2 gifted receiver >>probably Megatron > >this is probably true. >
>His combination of size, strength, athleticism, >nimbleness, etc is every bit as rare as Moss'
yet his overall athleticism isn't.
>I'd even argue that the #2 tight end is further >away from him than the #2 WR is from Moss (Megatron)
maybe, but the talent pool at WR is deeper than TE (i.e. Megatron's athleticism outstrips that of whoever the #2 TE is) so that comparison doesn't equate to Gronk being the better athlete.
36. "He acted exactly like how we'd picture him to act on Top Chef" In response to Reply # 34
Totally arrogant and simple-minded, I loved it. I Lol'd when he said "this leaf..is beautiful" commenting on an herb someone used. Hahahaha he had no clue wtf it was.
25. "While I hear you here is the secret everyone knows" In response to Reply # 0
.........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................they still white.
43. "Yeah, Cooper is 100X more athletic than Pinkston, Fred Ex, etc" In response to Reply # 42
>he's a throwback to the kind of WRs Andy used to draft back >in the early years of McNabb, that had no business being in >the NFL > >even Tom Brady would be cussing him out
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you dont play in the NFL at 160 pounds without being an extraordinary athlete (pinkston) and fredex was plenty athletic, that was about all he had going for him. no one mistook him for antonio freeman, dude ran to be covered and basically beat himself on most downs.
And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
49. "I played in the same league as Kuhn and ran for more yards than him" In response to Reply # 45
as a junior at that (his senior year). No doubt he was incredibly strong back in high school, but he was a gym rat through and through. Also, I can name at least 5 RBs I played against in high school who were more physically gifted/talented than Kuhn and never came close to having his career.
I completely get the premise of the post, but of course it's gotta be made with some extreme hyperbole. Guys like Vernon Davis, Eric Ebron, Antonio Gates, and Shannon Sharpe are definitely on the same level talent wise as Gronk. And at LB, guys like Navarro Bowman and Patrick Willis are every bit as physically gifted as Keuchly.
i remember one Sunday a couple months ago asking some of my more educated football fan friends about J.J. Watt. the only thing i could think to say was... "why is he so much better than everybody else???"
67. "First of all w/the exception of Watt none or the players you listed are" In response to Reply # 66
what you would call "athletic freaks"
>I'm saying we don't highlight the natural gifts in >white athletes the way we do black athletes.
Then you should've said that and stuck w/that premise, instead your post title and content went so far as to say "most or many of the naturally athletically gifted athletes are white" which is NOT TRUE > >We over-emphasize "natural gifts" with blacks, >under-emphasize >it with whites
That's partly true - yes, there's always been an under-emphasis of the blk athlete's cerebral approach to sports and their work ethic but as far as white athletes are concerned, their natural gifts aren't often highlighted because it's so few white athletes who are naturally gifted a la someone like a Mike Vick or Iverson, athletes who excelled at their respective sports while admitting they didn't put in a lot of work in the off season, that their success in their sport was mostly due to being naturally gifted. Even the white athletes who YOU have listed as athletic freaks all are known to have incredible work ethics - because I doubt that even the most naturally gifted white athlete believes he can get away w/just playing off his natural gifts
69. "Can't help it if you exaggerated (as you typically do)...I'm trying to" In response to Reply # 68
help you out
>Maybe our species is doomed, y'all. > > >We can't be this not bright. > > >---------------------------- > > > >O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain" > > > > >"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..." > >(C)Keith Murray, "
> >I'm not in the mood to insult you and don't have >the energy to explain it to you.
Man, I keep telling you it insults me that you THINK you can insult from behind a computer screen - your so-called insults only highlight how insecure YOU are lol - you need to understand who you're replying back to
But anyhoo, no need to explain it I got it smh > >---------------------------- > > > >O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain" > > > > >"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..." > >(C)Keith Murray, "
72. "I'll honestly try to be nicer, but it hard, and I get sad. " In response to Reply # 71 Mon Jan-05-15 02:01 PM by Orbit_Established
Its hard to be nice when people tell me I'm wrong for thinking the media under-reports the natural athleticism of white athletes, and argue this by telling me that the white athletes I listed as examples aren't well known for being physical monsters.
: - (
Its just embarrassing.
I was done with embarrassing niggerish-ness many years ago.
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> >Its hard to be nice when people tell me I'm wrong >for thinking the media under-reports the natural athleticism >of white athletes, and argue this by telling me that the >white athletes I listed as examples aren't well known for >being physical monsters. > >: - ( > >Its just embarrassing. > >I was done with embarrassing niggerish-ness many years ago. > > > >---------------------------- > > > >O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain" > > > > >"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..." > >(C)Keith Murray, "
65. "my best red beans and rice yet" In response to Reply # 0
Had some red pepper, and threw that in instead of the green. Also the habanero was just right. Maybe the real cause was letting a lot of the water boil off. Seemed to make the beans extra soft.
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"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God
84. "I'm this close to giving up on dude" In response to Reply # 83
Yes his front office has failed him,but if he's the second coming as we keep getting told,he should be better by now,and he still throws so many stupid picks.
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85. "I like him. I just want us to admit that he's 90% genetics. " In response to Reply # 84
>Yes his front office has failed him,but if he's the second >coming as we keep getting told,he should be better by now,and >he still throws so many stupid picks.
Again, just fairness
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87. "ONCE-IN-A-GENERATION QB" In response to Reply # 83
> >Relies too much on his god given ability > >He needs to focus on the finer parts of the >game > >Do some film study > >He'll be fine, but he's got to have a winning attitude >and play the game the right way
I'm TALKING ABOUT IT:
Maybe Andrew is more concerned with his brand than winning football games.
Andrew has to stop relying on his athleticism so much.
Andrew is a once-in-a-generation talent that needs time to refine his game. He'll get it right in another five years.
92. "chris hogan: elite two sport athlete" In response to Reply # 91
no, seriously. how many dude you know can play another sport in college and still make an nfl roster, let alone ball like julio in the afc championship game. that ain't technique.
---- bshelly
"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God
93. "GODDAMN!! Oh, and Edelman too <--converted QB. NOPE! GIFTED!!" In response to Reply # 92
>no, seriously. how many dude you know can play another sport >in college and still make an nfl roster, let alone ball like >julio in the afc championship game. that ain't technique.
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