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ThaTruth
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"Does Eric Gordon have a mask and a gun when he picks up his paycheck?"


  

          

dude is looking bad out there, the other night he put up a goose egg in 34 minutes...

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If they can trade his ass before the deadline, they better. Cause dude i...
Nov 04th 2014
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Who in the world would take him?
Nov 04th 2014
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      I know I wouldn't trade for him. Josh Smith's sorry ass is the first con...
Nov 04th 2014
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      no way he's opting out, lol
Nov 04th 2014
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           seriously, zero, Rudy Gay opting out last year was more likely
Nov 04th 2014
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                Eh, you might be shocked then.
Nov 04th 2014
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                     sheeit Money is Money...
Nov 04th 2014
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he uses the same one his agent used when...
Nov 04th 2014
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RE: Does Eric Gordon have a mask and a gun when he picks up his paycheck...
Nov 04th 2014
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maybe the best use of the mask and gun meme yet
Nov 04th 2014
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what did hibbert do besides take us on a wild roller coaster ride?
Nov 04th 2014
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      even if that were true, that's so much better than what gordon is now
Nov 04th 2014
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Clearly, the Clippers trade was better. *smh*
Nov 04th 2014
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lol
Nov 04th 2014
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It was.
Nov 04th 2014
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      It was highway robbery and Gordon's BEEN garbage.
Nov 04th 2014
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           The day we traded for Gordon he was a budding superstar.
Nov 04th 2014
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                lol
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                It's tired and dead, but they keep bringing it up
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                He was averaging closer to 25 before he sprained his wrist too.
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                so...laker fans were right??
Nov 04th 2014
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                No.
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                     yeah i read you keep saying 'at the time'. I'm talking bout now lol
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                Yeah, it was definitely a fair trade had Gordon's knees not went to shit...
Nov 04th 2014
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                Dogg my franchise is in the shitter right now, I'm gonna cry...okay?!
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                this is some GWB shit...
Nov 04th 2014
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                     lol exactly. lmfao
Nov 04th 2014
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Remember when the suns signed him to that offer sheet?
Nov 04th 2014
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lol...yep...and Hornets was like "naaaahhhh...we MATCH your sheet"
Nov 04th 2014
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Unfair. Dude's knees are cooked.
Nov 04th 2014
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Exactly. At the time he was right with Russ & Rose
Nov 04th 2014
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Uhhhh, no.
Nov 04th 2014
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lol...I was like, WHAAAAT???
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The point is that people pretend he was sorry.
Nov 04th 2014
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agree w/ all of that.
Nov 04th 2014
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I mean, he was good.
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      Lol...you said Jamal Crawford. It's gonna be one of those...
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      You can lie if you want, but numbers don't.
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           he wasn't a 22 year old, tho
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           HE SAID HE WAS RIGHT THERE WITH ROSE AND RUSS
Nov 04th 2014
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           Well, if you wanna act fucking stupid. I'll call you stupid.
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                Don't be all mad.
Nov 04th 2014
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                     he was a fucking 22 year old
Nov 04th 2014
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                          Derrick Rose. Russell Westbrook. Eric Gordon.
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                               Hahaha.....you're an idiot and you card got pulled.
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                                    Could be an unfair comparison, but uh...
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                                         LMAO....at the time they were all contemporaries you DUMB FUCK
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                                              He wasn't on their level even then. Sorry.
Nov 05th 2014
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      bad comparison to attack a bad comparison
Nov 04th 2014
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      Nope, now THIS is some hindsight shit.
Nov 04th 2014
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           Nobody is arguing the trade was a bust dummy.
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           a) wouldn't you be?
Nov 04th 2014
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           no need for this now that we realize we were talking different trades
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                Oh, I thought you were talking about Harden's trade. My bad.
Nov 04th 2014
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                     lol, i just realized the same mistake was happening.
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      First of all, I'm the one bringing logic to this conversation.
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Didn't say his team was winning. But he was...
Nov 04th 2014
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      and a better player than neither.
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      And you can easily say that now cuz he has no knees
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           nah, i'm talking about the time he was a better shooter and.or defender
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                Cool
Nov 04th 2014
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      Who would you rather have?
Nov 04th 2014
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           Why are you comparing Hardens 2012 to Gordon's 2011?
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                That's my bad, thought I was looking at the same year.
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                     Well it's not comparable. And Gordon got hurt.
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                          It's not comparable? Okay, guy.
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http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/wltr.gif
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RE: At the time he was right with Russ & Rose
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It's not really surprising, he was an undersized injury-prone 2 guard...
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      cotdamn, folk...go easy
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      Nigga you wrote that but you're a Brad Beal fan. Lmao!
Nov 04th 2014
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           how does it relate to Brad? I'm honestly curious
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           Beal is looking like an undersized injury prone 2 guard
Nov 04th 2014
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                Take Care
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           did I say anything that wasn't true? Neal doesn't rely on athleticism...
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                Did you ever see Eric Gordon play? Honestly.
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                     Are you mad or nah?
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Imagine if LAC included Eric Bledsoe instead of Eric Gordon for CP3
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Yup, LA gave us the choice: Bledsoe or the Minny pick
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New Orleans would've been foolish for taking that deal.
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      Exactly. I would've told you ERIC GORDON >>>>> BLEDSOE
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0 for tonight? He's about to lose his job to Austin Rivers
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Now THAT'S some sorry shit
Nov 05th 2014
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Muphucka is a FAT version of Ben Gordon
Nov 04th 2014
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Welp
Jun 23rd 2016
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classic uppage here...
Jun 24th 2016
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      RE: classic uppage here...
Jun 24th 2016
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^^^comeback or MIPOTY 2017-18?
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BlassFemur
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1. "If they can trade his ass before the deadline, they better. Cause dude i..."
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not sure what his contract is lookin like or if it's worth it. But with Tyreke in a starting role, Gordon is just getting in the way.

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4. "Who in the world would take him?"
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Josh Smith is probably the only contract/player I could see working. And that is a non-starter for us.

Just hoping he finds his confidence/form and opts out at the end of the year. Sigh...


  

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12. "I know I wouldn't trade for him. Josh Smith's sorry ass is the first con..."
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I thought of, but to me Eric Gordon is worse to have cause he almost offers nothing at this point. Josh could at least get a block or two and a few rebounds if his shot isn't falling. When Eric Gordon is off, it's just best to sit his ass on the bench.

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ThaTruth
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16. "no way he's opting out, lol"
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26. "seriously, zero, Rudy Gay opting out last year was more likely"
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33. "Eh, you might be shocked then."
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If he can put together a solid year and stay healthy he might see the opportunity to get 3-4 years guaranteed (at say $8-9m per) as better than one more max year in his little self imposed purgatory, while risking injury to completely shoot his value for the rest of his career.

MAYBE 4/32 + security and a new situation >>> 1/16 + injury risk, trade rumors and general lemonheaded unhappiness.

  

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42. "sheeit Money is Money..."
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Opt out for what?

  

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2. "he uses the same one his agent used when..."
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he got the deal done.

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3. "RE: Does Eric Gordon have a mask and a gun when he picks up his paycheck..."
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5. "maybe the best use of the mask and gun meme yet"
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and i hope it inspires gordon to what hibbert did, because good lord dude is SORRY and it's fucking up the Brow's ascension.

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7. "what did hibbert do besides take us on a wild roller coaster ride?"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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9. "even if that were true, that's so much better than what gordon is now"
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6. "Clearly, the Clippers trade was better. *smh*"
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8. "lol"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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13. "It was."
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And your gold medal in the Hindsight Olympics is well earned.

  

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14. "It was highway robbery and Gordon's BEEN garbage."
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15. "The day we traded for Gordon he was a budding superstar."
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An efficient 22 and 4 in his 3rd year for a Clipper team that was extremely reluctant to even trade him. No reason to think that wouldn't continue and improve. At that time he was being talked about as next in line at SG, not James Harden.

No other team trading their superstars (Orlando, OKC, Utah) got a young player of his caliber and upside.

Throw in a recent #8 overall pick, an unprotected 1st from Minny, and Kaman's expiring? Lol, I mean it wasn't even CLOSE.


If you want to question us matching the Phoenix max deal? Cool, definitely a worthy debate there.

But to continue to cry about a trade that everyone EXCEPT Laker fans agreed was better at the time? Its just bizarre, and really speaks volumes about just how spoiled and delusional your fanbase really is.

  

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17. "lol"
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19. "It's tired and dead, but they keep bringing it up"
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the only crumb of an argument that still exists is the merit of matching Gordon...nearly everyone called it that he would never be healthy. But even then, based on asset value, the Pelicans pretty much had to match.

>An efficient 22 and 4 in his 3rd year for a Clipper team that
>was extremely reluctant to even trade him. No reason to think
>that wouldn't continue and improve. At that time he was being
>talked about as next in line at SG, not James Harden.
>
>No other team trading their superstars (Orlando, OKC, Utah)
>got a young player of his caliber and upside.
>
>Throw in a recent #8 overall pick, an unprotected 1st from
>Minny, and Kaman's expiring? Lol, I mean it wasn't even
>CLOSE.
>
>
>If you want to question us matching the Phoenix max deal?
>Cool, definitely a worthy debate there.
>
>But to continue to cry about a trade that everyone EXCEPT
>Laker fans agreed was better at the time? Its just bizarre,
>and really speaks volumes about just how spoiled and
>delusional your fanbase really is.


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20. "He was averaging closer to 25 before he sprained his wrist too."
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Dude was a budding star before the first knee surgery. Everyone forgets this for some reason.

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22. "so...laker fans were right??"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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24. "No."
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Can you read?

  

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36. "yeah i read you keep saying 'at the time'. I'm talking bout now lol "
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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23. "Yeah, it was definitely a fair trade had Gordon's knees not went to shit..."
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dude was a beast at the 2, folks can pretend that wasn't the case all they want.

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25. "Dogg my franchise is in the shitter right now, I'm gonna cry...okay?!"
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THIS trade was the reason it is. So yes, I'm still mad and bitter.

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Lopez. Clarkson. Ingram. Ball. Kuzma. Randle. Pope. Bogut. Nance. Deng. Zubac. Brewer. Ennis.

  

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34. "this is some GWB shit..."
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on some, we were wrong, but at the time there were a lot of people saying we were right

  

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37. "lol exactly. lmfao"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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10. "Remember when the suns signed him to that offer sheet?"
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And he wanted to leave so bad. That was the suns right? What a bullet dodged.

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11. "lol...yep...and Hornets was like "naaaahhhh...we MATCH your sheet""
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18. "Unfair. Dude's knees are cooked."
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He's one of those guys that hasn't really ever been the same since he got hurt. He's had arthroscopic surgery on both knees within a two-year span. I wouldn't be the same either.

He showed some flashes over the last two years before the second knee surgery. The potential was still there. But yeah, he'll never be the guy he was with the Clippers.

But the "mask and gun" meme was for a healthy Hibbert. This is a player recovering from his second knee surgery since 2012. Not quite the same.

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21. "Exactly. At the time he was right with Russ & Rose"
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And better than Harden

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27. "Uhhhh, no."
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He WAS traded in December 2011, you guys know that right?

That is literally between the time that Rose won MVP and when Russ was in the Finals.

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28. "lol...I was like, WHAAAAT???"
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31. "The point is that people pretend he was sorry."
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He might have dropped 30 ten times for the Clippers that final season (don't have his numbers in front of me). He was the hottest 2 guard prospect in the NBA. While I wouldn't agree he was as hot an up-and-comer as the MVP (obviously) or Russy, he was a better shooter than both, easily dropping over 20 per, and still only... what, 22 years old? He was young and very talented. If not in their category, in the immediate next tier.

He wasn't sorry at all. His knees got cooked.

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32. "agree w/ all of that."
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but no one in 2011 rated his prospects as highly as westbrook or rose.



>He might have dropped 30 ten times for the Clippers that
>final season (don't have his numbers in front of me). He was
>the hottest 2 guard prospect in the NBA. While I wouldn't
>agree he was as hot an up-and-comer as the MVP (obviously) or
>Russy, he was a better shooter than both, easily dropping over
>20 per, and still only... what, 22 years old? He was young and
>very talented. If not in their category, in the immediate next
>tier.
>
>He wasn't sorry at all. His knees got cooked.

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41. "I mean, he was good. "
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Not franchise player good. Not even Harden pre-Rockets good, but good.

Still - his numbers in his peak year were 22 points, 3 rebounds, 4.4 assists (56 games, 38 minutes a game). That's Jamal Crawford status. Good player, sure. But not comparable to the others.

I mean hell at that time, Tyreke Evans was comparable. Tyreke was GOOD, but wasn't ever thought of as close to Russ/Rose/the other elite 2s at the time

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47. "Lol...you said Jamal Crawford. It's gonna be one of those..."
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Hoop convos huh?

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48. "You can lie if you want, but numbers don't."
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http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/crawfja01.html

Crawford's best season was 20 points, 2.6 rebounds, 5 assists in 39 mins per game/80 games.

That's WAY different than 22.3 points, 2.9 rebounds, and 4.4 assists though. You're right. Carry on.

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52. "he wasn't a 22 year old, tho"
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Jamal Crawford's prime was significantly worse than Eric Gordon as a young up-and-comer (peep the fg%, for one). stop.

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63. "HE SAID HE WAS RIGHT THERE WITH ROSE AND RUSS"
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And I'm the idiot here?

Just so we're clear:

Derrick Rose, coming off a 60+ win season and an MVP and Russell Westbrook, who was in the Finals 6 months after Gordon got traded.

He was right there with them? Even when healthy? RIGHT.

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53. "Well, if you wanna act fucking stupid. I'll call you stupid."
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Gordon's Age 22 season is still better than Crawfords best season at Age 2-fucking-7. He was more efficient and a better shooter and a better defender and younger by half a fucking decade.

Dumbasses who wanna pretend to know shit will get called out. Just because you made a trade got nixed 5 year ago doesn't mean you should get mad at me for telling he truth.

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61. "Don't be all mad."
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I'm simply comparing numbers. I said "Jamal Crawford status". Not "Eric Gordon was going to end up as good as Jamal Crawford."

I just said their numbers were comparable.

And they are.

For all the revisionism going on here, Eric Gordon was never an elite 2-guard. Never. Promising, sure, but the trade ended up a total bust and I'm sorry you don't see that.

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62. "he was a fucking 22 year old"
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"never an elite" HE WAS 22!

jamal crawford status was bullshit. just admit it. Jamal Crawford wishes he had put up that line ever, let alone at age 22. at 22 jamal crawford was putting up 10 points on .41 shooting.

jamal fucking crawford. FOH.


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64. "Derrick Rose. Russell Westbrook. Eric Gordon."
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Who doesn't belong there?

Even in 2011?!

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65. "Hahaha.....you're an idiot and you card got pulled."
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Go cry about Cp3.

Cats wanna pretend they know some hoops?

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67. "Could be an unfair comparison, but uh..."
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You still haven't answered as to why you'd compare bust ass Eric Gordon to MVP Rose and 3x All Star Russell Westbrook.

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77. "LMAO....at the time they were all contemporaries you DUMB FUCK"
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Russ, Rose, Gordon, and Mayo ALL came in the same year.

They all had success early in their careers.

Mayo fell off around that time. And left the pack.

Gordon was still playing well.

All 3 were in the pipeline for Team USA.

All 3 were seen as the next generation of great guards in the NBA.

ERIC GORDON got hurt and never regained that status.

If your Mad Ass wants to keep pretending like you know hoops. I'll keep sonning your shit.

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83. "He wasn't on their level even then. Sorry. "
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50. "bad comparison to attack a bad comparison"
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>Still - his numbers in his peak year were 22 points, 3
>rebounds, 4.4 assists (56 games, 38 minutes a game). That's
>Jamal Crawford status. Good player, sure. But not comparable
>to the others.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/crawfja01.html
point to the 22/3/4.4 assist line on 45% shooting. i'll wait. my god.

>I mean hell at that time, Tyreke Evans was comparable. Tyreke
>was GOOD, but wasn't ever thought of as close to Russ/Rose/the
>other elite 2s at the time

at the time, people thought tyreke would explode. he put up 20 ppg as a rookie. so much hindsight being used here. then he had an off year and most people blamed the dysfunctional kings for that more than evans actually not having upside beyond his rookie season numbers.

eric gordon was a 22 year old sharpshooter who looked primed to be a 25 ppg guy who was a solid defender and maybe even could be a really good defender. that's a damn good player to pick up in a trade. compared to a 12/3/2 in 26 minute no-defending ass Harden (basa'll tell you, people were starting to call him a flop), he looked primed to be a star that season. Harden busted out in 11-12, after the trade, not before.

there was definitely risk involved there and there were better 2 guards (tho not many better young prospects at the 2 at the time). but no need to throw "jamal crawford status" bullshit in out of the blue.

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66. "Nope, now THIS is some hindsight shit."
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>compared to a 12/3/2 in 26 minute
>no-defending ass Harden (basa'll tell you, people were
>starting to call him a flop), he looked primed to be a star
>that season. Harden busted out in 11-12, after the trade, not
>before.

Harden won 6th man of the year in 2011-2012 season, where he averaged those numbers I thought were the same year as Gordon's best year. Harden "broke out" that year - when they went to the Finals. He was ghost in the Finals and that was the big story. If he was a flop during that, who would have talked about it?

No, Harden broke out that year. When he got traded is when people saw him as a superstar, but Harden was a beast his last year with OKC and everyone admitted it. Prior to that, fine, but look at his numbers at the end of that season.

As for all your other shit - fine, Crawford was way less efficient than Gordon at their peaks, but the numbers aren't nearly as off as you seem to think they are. Still, the trade was a complete bust (if you overlook the possibility that its what led to AD - though that's impossible to figure out).

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68. "Nobody is arguing the trade was a bust dummy."
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But it's because he got hurt.

You get it?

Nope, I know you dont. Cuz your bitter the Lakers don't have CP3.

So go cry some more.

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69. "a) wouldn't you be?"
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>But it's because he got hurt.
>
>You get it?
>
>Nope, I know you dont. Cuz your bitter the Lakers don't have
>CP3.
>
>So go cry some more.

b) own up to your dumb ass statement with Rose and Russ

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71. "no need for this now that we realize we were talking different trades"
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72. "Oh, I thought you were talking about Harden's trade. My bad."
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73. "lol, i just realized the same mistake was happening."
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and edited. heh.
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74. "First of all, I'm the one bringing logic to this conversation."
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I didn't say the Russy/Rose bit. I'm also not underselling Gordon. I am telling it like it was-- he was the best young SG in the country, averaging 25 before his wrist injury, ending up with 22 for the season. At age 22. Today, any player averaging 22 PPG by age 22 is penciled in for countless ASGs and is labeled as having franchise potential.

Also, he was absolutely better than pre-Rockets Harden. Not at shooting the 3, and not at keeping his wrist and knee straight. But in pretty much every other facet of the game. Seeing as how Gordon feasted on first units (while also defending!) at age 22, I'm 100% confident he also would've won sixth man in relief of Durant and Russy if their positions were switched. That's obviously a hypothetical, but again, before the knee gave out, I'm pretty confident OKC would've dealt Harden for Gordon straight up. Gordon was better in high school, better in college, and better to date in the pros.

If you want to hold the injuries against him, that's totally fair game. But to say people viewed him as a Jamal Crawford type before the ensuing wrist and knee injuries is revisionist history based on the fact that he never reached full potential due to injury.

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35. "Didn't say his team was winning. But he was..."
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a better shooter and defender than both.

And the best young sg in the league.

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38. "and a better player than neither."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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39. "And you can easily say that now cuz he has no knees"
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And his career is in the shitter.

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40. "nah, i'm talking about the time he was a better shooter and.or defender"
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or whatever you said.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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46. "Cool"
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43. "Who would you rather have?"
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16.4 PPG, 4.2 reb, 2.9 ast, 1.5 stl, on 44% shooting in 26 mins a game?

Or:

22 PPG, 2.9 reb, 4.4 ast, 1.3 stl, on 45% shooting in 37 mins a game?

Acting like he's SO FAR beyond Harden at that point is a little crazy. Plus, Harden played all 82 games and put those numbers up along with 2 ball dominant players. Gordon played 56.

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49. "Why are you comparing Hardens 2012 to Gordon's 2011?"
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And the answer is obviously Gordon cuz I liked his game better. He just had injury issues.

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51. "That's my bad, thought I was looking at the same year."
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Still though, Harden's '12 season is comparable to Gordon's peak '11 season (pre trade obviously), and it was pretty clear Harden was better. Might not have said that at the time though so fair point.

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54. "Well it's not comparable. And Gordon got hurt."
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And hasn't been the same since. So there's that.

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60. "It's not comparable? Okay, guy. "
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29. "http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/wltr.gif"
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30. "RE: At the time he was right with Russ & Rose"
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wat.

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45. "It's not really surprising, he was an undersized injury-prone 2 guard..."
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that relied heavily on his athleticism and quickness. It was obvious that it wasn't going to end pretty. He was basically a poor man's D-Wade with a lower ceiling and a lower floor.

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55. "cotdamn, folk...go easy"
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57. "Nigga you wrote that but you're a Brad Beal fan. Lmao!"
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You stay posting some dumb shit.

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58. "how does it relate to Brad? I'm honestly curious"
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59. "Beal is looking like an undersized injury prone 2 guard"
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Who also has not played as well as Gordon did prior to his injuries.

How did you not understand?

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70. "Take Care"
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76. "did I say anything that wasn't true? Neal doesn't rely on athleticism..."
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as much as Gordon did, Beal will be like Ray Allen bussing fools into his late 30's

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78. "Did you ever see Eric Gordon play? Honestly."
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Cuz I know you didn't if you compared him to D-Wade.

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80. "Are you mad or nah?"
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44. "Imagine if LAC included Eric Bledsoe instead of Eric Gordon for CP3"
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I vaguely remember that's what they were trying to do in that original deal but NOLA held out for Eric Gordon instead... NOLA could have had Bledsoe as their PG going forward and not traded that pick that turned out to be Nerlens Noel for Jrue Holiday. I really do think the time Bledsoe spent with CP3 really changed his trajectory as a player though, his rookie year he was so raw at running the point and he's not the purest PG now either, but he definitely picked up some of CP3's tricks by playing with him.

  

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56. "Yup, LA gave us the choice: Bledsoe or the Minny pick"
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So of course we essentially chose Austin Rivers over Eric Bledsoe.


*sobs*

  

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75. "New Orleans would've been foolish for taking that deal."
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As Gordon was a far greater asset at the time.

But if Bledsoe had been thrown in in addition to Gordon (instead of the Minny pick, as Kajun noted above), yes, he'd be playing alongside AD and that would be awesome (and TRBO would jizz his pants nightly).

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79. "Exactly. I would've told you ERIC GORDON >>>>> BLEDSOE"
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at the time.

Cuz he was.

A lot better than BLEDSOE

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81. "0 for tonight? He's about to lose his job to Austin Rivers"
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84. "Now THAT'S some sorry shit"
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82. "Muphucka is a FAT version of Ben Gordon"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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85. "Welp"
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86. "classic uppage here..."
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LOL!

  

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87. "RE: classic uppage here..."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMQy0ib1vdE

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88. "^^^comeback or MIPOTY 2017-18?"
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