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benny
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"FIFA Ballon d'Or/Coach of the Year shortlists"


  

          

Ballon d’Or shortlist
Gareth Bale (Real Madrid), Karim Benzema (Real Madrid), Diego Costa (Atlético Madrid/Chelsea), Thibaut Courtois (Atlético Madrid/Chelsea), Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid), Ángel di María (Real Madrid/Manchester United), Mario Götze (Bayern Munich), Eden Hazard (Chelsea), Zlatan Ibrahimovic (PSG), Andrés Iniesta (Barcelona), Toni Kroos (Bayern Munich/Real Madrid), Philipp Lahm (Bayern Munich), Javier Mascherano (Barcelona), Lionel Messi (Barcelona), Thomas Müller (Bayern Munich), Manuel Neuer (Bayern Munich), Neymar (Barcelona), Paul Pogba (Juventus), Sergio Ramos (Real Madrid), Arjen Robben (Bayern Munich), James Rodríguez (Monaco/Real Madrid), Bastian Schweinsteiger (Bayern Munich), Yaya Touré (Manchester City).

Coach of the year shortlist
Carlo Ancelotti (Real Madrid), Antonio Conte (Juventus/Italy national team), Pep Guardiola (Bayern Munich), Jürgen Klinsmann (USA national team), Joachim Löw (Germany national team), José Mourinho (Chelsea), Manuel Pellegrini (Manchester City), Alejandro Sabella (Argentina national team), Diego Simeone (Atlético Madrid), Louis van Gaal (Holland national team/Manchester United).


List will be narrowed down to 3 on Dec 1, with winners announced Jan 12. Lots of hoopla about Suarez being left out but I don't see how that's shocking when FIFA suspended him for 4 months.
And I hope more people talk about Manuel Neuer as a serious candidate, as much as I dislike the smug bastard.

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let me save you some time. it's Ronaldo.
Oct 28th 2014
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there wasn't a world cup this year or anything
Oct 28th 2014
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The only other person who I think has a argument is Goetze
Oct 28th 2014
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you don't have to like it. but it's the only option.
Oct 28th 2014
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u mad as shit?
Oct 28th 2014
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      yeah, because a post where i say neuer would be a good choice
Oct 28th 2014
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           he would be a good choice, but how often has a GK won?
Oct 28th 2014
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                w/o looking it up, about as often as a player not winning the WC
Oct 28th 2014
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                     guess this will be a repeat of 2010 then.
Oct 28th 2014
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                          if u don't see the difference, then *shrug*
Oct 28th 2014
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                          Aight well don't be surprised when ronaldo wins
Oct 28th 2014
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                               so WC silver boot + champ + bayern's best attacker
Oct 28th 2014
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                          Iniesta should have gotten it, imo, but Messi at least made the quarters
Oct 28th 2014
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nah. it's gonna be Muller.
Oct 28th 2014
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      he should get it just for this
Oct 28th 2014
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           indeed.
Oct 28th 2014
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                basically. n/m
Oct 28th 2014
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Simeone has to win coach of the year, right?
Oct 28th 2014
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No brainer imo
Oct 28th 2014
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really, really should
Oct 28th 2014
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      would anyone really be surprised if Low gets it?
Oct 28th 2014
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           no one should be surprised and he's a worthy candidate almost any other ...
Oct 28th 2014
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Neuer.
Oct 28th 2014
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The Luigi Buffon Special
Oct 28th 2014
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BrooklynWHAT
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1. "let me save you some time. it's Ronaldo."
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thejerseytornado
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2. "there wasn't a world cup this year or anything"
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it would be a travishamockery of a FIFA award if a guy whose squad didn't get out of the qualifications won the ballon d'or.

neuer, smug shithead, would be a good choice. oherwise--muller? messi?

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3. "The only other person who I think has a argument is Goetze"
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just on scoring the world cup winner.
And that's probably not enough.

I hate Ronaldo. Hate him. But it's hard to argue for anyone else.

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BrooklynWHAT
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4. "you don't have to like it. but it's the only option."
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PROMO
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6. "u mad as shit?"
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c'mon dog. CR7 best player in the world the last 3 years (this one included) hands down.

sorry you Messi fanboys, but his time has passed.

  

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thejerseytornado
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8. "yeah, because a post where i say neuer would be a good choice"
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is a messi fanboy post. christ.

his team didn't advance past the group stages. it's rare the winner doesn't come from the winner, let alone from a squad that didn't get past group stages. dem's the breaks.

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9. "he would be a good choice, but how often has a GK won?"
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12. "w/o looking it up, about as often as a player not winning the WC"
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in a WC year

  

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BrooklynWHAT
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14. "guess this will be a repeat of 2010 then."
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thejerseytornado
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15. "if u don't see the difference, then *shrug*"
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i'm in the muller's likely to win, i'd rather see neuer camp.

messi or ronaldo would be mistakes. performance in the FIFA world competition matters a lot for the FIFA award and ronaldo's team didn't even get out of group stages. meanwhile, the spanish team's best player was probably Iker (shades of neuer getting screwed), iniesta was 3rd best player for his club, and xavi doesn't put up stats. and iniesta and xavi split their votes while iker got shit for votes because, GK.

ronaldo's best chance is for muller and lahm to split votes, but lahm's not gonna get the votes, i don't think. goetze's definitely not getting the votes.

i think you think you were clever with the 2010 reference, but it's a shallow analysis. and the results got shat on for how much people thought it should have gone to someone who went further in the world cup, so expect a german to win it even more than normally.

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18. "Aight well don't be surprised when ronaldo wins"
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And muller probably doesn't even get top 3. I know you're rooting for anybody but ronaldo even though he's the most deserving by far even with his WC campaign.

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thejerseytornado
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19. "so WC silver boot + champ + bayern's best attacker"
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not top 3. lulz. who will?

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20. "Iniesta should have gotten it, imo, but Messi at least made the quarters"
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he didn't get booted in the 1st round

I did some digging, and realized I forgot they enforced a 'euro only' criterion before 1995, which is why Igor Belanov got it in 1986, for instance, or Stoichkov in 1994. But in years where a European nation won, the only time they gave it to a non WC winner was Cruyjff in 74 (he made the final).

so, 1974/2010, that's 2 times only, with a finalist and a quarter-finalist...thus I wouldn't bet on your boy too tough. I'm not sure why you think Muller is undeserving of the top 3 either, he had a monster WC, along with a pretty solid club year to say the least. For reference, Paolo Rossi got it in 82, and if memory serves, he barely made the Italian squad (meaning his club year was a non factor). Ronaldo played next to no club futbol in 2002 and won it as well.

it's whatever though, ultimately the Ballon d'Or doesn't matter that much...for the record, I do think Cristiano is a better player than Muller, I'm just trying to prepare you mentally, so that you don't cry too hard when he gets spurned yet again.

  

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7. "nah. it's gonna be Muller."
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benny
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10. "he should get it just for this"
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11. "indeed."
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but he's gonna get it for being the best field player on the world cup winning squad. per usual.

  

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13. "basically. n/m"
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5. "Simeone has to win coach of the year, right?"
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HAS TO.

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16. "No brainer imo"
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17. "really, really should"
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but FIFA might be lazy there too and give it to Low, as it'd also serve as a middle finger to Klinnsmann, which might be something a decent number of FIFA people would support...

but yeah, Cholo definitely deserves it.

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21. "would anyone really be surprised if Low gets it?"
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it won't be right, not by a country mile, but in world cup years these things tend to be pretty straightforward. Especially since boogerman does have a relatively strong claim as far as adjusting his tactics and crafting a great team after facing lots of doubters post-Euro 2012.
I'd love to be wrong though

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22. "no one should be surprised and he's a worthy candidate almost any other ..."
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but what Cholo did was amazing. a shame it was during a WC year.

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23. "Neuer."
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24. "The Luigi Buffon Special"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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