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"WTF...Jonathan Dwyer arrested for domestic violence..."


          

deactivated by Arizona. Apparently, two separate occurrences in July...charges pressed Sept. 11th. Assault against a 27 year old oman and an 18 month old child. One resulting in broken bones!!!!
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/17/reports-cardinals-jonathan-dwyer-in-domestic-violence-incident/

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smh
Sep 17th 2014
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it's kind of misleading since Stepfan Taylor is next on the depth chart
Sep 17th 2014
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smh @ this:
Sep 17th 2014
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I mean damn. Dudes have lost their minds
Sep 17th 2014
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maybe folks will start realizing how much abuse is out there
Sep 17th 2014
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wtf
Sep 17th 2014
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Yup, people are surprised this is a big issue all the sudden
Sep 17th 2014
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      Exactly. This has been a serious issue for a long time.
Sep 17th 2014
13
Wilbon was asking on PTI: What's the tipping point?
Sep 17th 2014
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2nd offense is a lifetime ban. how much more drastic can it get?
Sep 17th 2014
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I really don't think the NFL should do anything special regarding DV...
Sep 17th 2014
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Arrest rates are actually lower for NFL players
Sep 18th 2014
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      I only skimmed the article....
Sep 18th 2014
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           The burden of proof is on you
Sep 18th 2014
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           That's fair, and I agree with all of that.
Sep 18th 2014
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                Copy that. Nuances noted, and very fair points all around. n/m
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                the problem with this assumption
Sep 18th 2014
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                     Agreed.
Sep 18th 2014
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           That's a pretty big stretch
Sep 18th 2014
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I'm not sure what the something drastic can be
Sep 17th 2014
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but Obama promised change!
Sep 17th 2014
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see what happens when obama fantasy team is ruined
Sep 18th 2014
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who would've though that TMZ could singlehandedly bring down the NFL?
Sep 18th 2014
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It helps that legitimate sports media outlets are
Sep 18th 2014
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      I dislike Gawker in general...
Sep 18th 2014
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      RE: It helps that legitimate sports media outlets are
Sep 18th 2014
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headbutted and punched her for not fucking, threatened suicide
Sep 18th 2014
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cotdamn....dude might get Riced over this one
Sep 18th 2014
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If he's smart
Sep 18th 2014
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In Jonathan Dwyer, should be easy to band him for life
Sep 18th 2014
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a slap on the wrist and no jail time?
Sep 18th 2014
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      Rice's career being over is a slap on the wrist? Lol
Sep 18th 2014
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Here's the (seriously disturbing) details
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      you gotta be built a certain way mentally to be able to steal on a woman
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      This is the grossest story yet
Sep 18th 2014
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faces 9 charges including felony assault
Sep 29th 2014
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RE: faces 9 charges including felony assault
Sep 29th 2014
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Wait, what???
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      It's scary how many women stay in these type of relationships
Sep 29th 2014
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      the psychology and emotional trauma is extremely complex
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      my goodness, that's heartbreaking...
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           It's sad, but I'm real curious to know what she did to protect
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                you would think that those basic motherly instincts would kick in...
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      Sadly, it's too common
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“You'll hear of a wife murdered before you hear another one come forwa...
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PimpTrickGangstaClik
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1. "smh"
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"Of course, if the Cardinals do cut Dwyer, the next man up on the roster would likely be practice squad running back Chris Rainey — who has had two separate domestic violence incidents, one in college that got him kicked off the team at Florida, and one in the NFL that got him cut by the Steelers."

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4. "it's kind of misleading since Stepfan Taylor is next on the depth chart"
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and this is just a practice squad guy.

  

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2. "smh @ this:"
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"Of course, if the Cardinals do cut Dwyer, the next man up on the
roster would likely be practice squad running back Chris Rainey — who
has had two separate domestic violence incidents, one in college that
got him kicked off the team at Florida, and one in the NFL that got
him cut by the Steelers. Which serves as a reminder that the NFL has
to do a whole lot more to get domestic abusers out of the league."

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3. "I mean damn. Dudes have lost their minds"
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5. "maybe folks will start realizing how much abuse is out there"
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"The National Domestic Violence Hotline has seen an 84 percent increase in phone calls in the two days since a video leaked of former NFL player Ray Rice knocking his then-fiancée unconscious in an elevator."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/10/ray-rice-domestic-violence-hotline_n_5798462.html

  

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6. "wtf"
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10. "Yup, people are surprised this is a big issue all the sudden"
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Only difference is a bunch of fantasy teams are getting fucked up so everyone is noticing. Sad that's what it takes

  

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13. "Exactly. This has been a serious issue for a long time."
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7. "Wilbon was asking on PTI: What's the tipping point?"
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How bad does it have to get for something drastic to happen?

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8. "2nd offense is a lifetime ban. how much more drastic can it get?"
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1st offense lifetime ban?

the idea that domestic violence in the NFL is somehow worse now than ever is absurd. it's just more known about.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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9. "I really don't think the NFL should do anything special regarding DV..."
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Unless it is shown that it is more prevalent with NFL players than regular society. It should be treated like any other crime and have consistent punishments (i.e misdemeanor=4 game suspension, felony=12 game suspension, etc.)

The only thing different between domestic violence and a regular assault is the PR hit the NFL takes. They are both equally reprehensible crimes imo

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14. "Arrest rates are actually lower for NFL players"
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>Unless it is shown that it is more prevalent with NFL players
>than regular society. It should be treated like any other
>crime and have consistent punishments (i.e misdemeanor=4 game
>suspension, felony=12 game suspension, etc.)
>
>The only thing different between domestic violence and a
>regular assault is the PR hit the NFL takes. They are both
>equally reprehensible crimes imo

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/the-rate-of-domestic-violence-arrests-among-nfl-players/

This is from July, but 538 did a breakdown. The NFL does have a domestic violence problem as lots more of its players are arrested for it relative to other crimes, but it's still well below the national average.

The bottom line is men in their 20s do lots of bad shit. People should check out the crime stats or the local section of their newspaper once in a while. They'd be stunned by the amount of child abuse, spousal abuse, sex crimes that go on in their communities.

  

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15. "I only skimmed the article...."
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but I wonder if part of the reason for the lower domestic violence rate is because the NFL is a rarefied culture that tends to protect its own?

For example, UCLA is considered one of the most dangerous campuses in the U.S. because of its high incidence of sexual assault. Turns out it's because the school actually encourages victims to report the crime, versus other campuses that burden the victim or turn a blind eye when other students bully the victim.

I mean, when this much money is at stake... how far are you gonna go to weed out the bad seeds in your organization if they're producing on the field? Or better yet, how much money would you be willing to spend to protect that W? Remember, it's only a statistic if it's reported.

This era of social media is enabling a massive element of transparency that wasn't present before. Peterson and Dwyer may just be the beginning... and I'm not entirely sure how I feel about that.

  

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16. "The burden of proof is on you"
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The burden of proof is not on the NFL to prove
its employees are not more prone to domestic
violence

The burden of proof is on you to prove why the
NFL is more prone

There's no real reason why it should be

And for every reason you point out why the NFL
stats are under-reported and skewed, I can give
you a reason why the non-NFL stats are skewed

For example, most real-world women (Non-NFL) have no
voice at all, have no chance for press at all, gain nothing,
at all, can't afford legal fees, etc



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20. "That's fair, and I agree with all of that."
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Thu Sep-18-14 09:51 AM by wallysmith

  

          

Note though that I'm not exactly claiming that the NFL has equivalent (or higher) rates of domestic violence... or any other crime, really.

All I'm saying is that the nature of *reporting* such incidents has changed, because of social media. Like, maybe 5-6 years ago would that Ray Rice video have had anywhere near the level of impact that it had today? Would we even have been aware of it? Twitter and Facebook and Reddit existed, but they weren't the vanguard of news that they are today.

In my college example, I wasn't saying that UCLA had higher or lower incidences of sexual assault, just that a stronger culture of transparency existed, leading to higher reporting rates. And based on what we've seen transpire lately, would it be safe to agree that the NFL isn't exactly the most transparent institution?


>And for every reason you point out why the NFL
>stats are under-reported and skewed, I can give
>you a reason why the non-NFL stats are skewed
>
>For example, most real-world women (Non-NFL) have no
>voice at all, have no chance for press at all, gain nothing,
>at all, can't afford legal fees, etc

Absolutely true. The culture of patriarchy that pervades most of the developed world is the basis for all of that. The fact that "slut shaming" exists and is a thing is downright despicable. There are more reasons why real world statistics are skewed than there are reasons why NFL statistics can be skewed.

The key difference though? If and when real-world women report violence, there usually isn't an all-encompassing institution trying to muffle those incidents... which is why examining the phenomenon in the bubble of a college institution can be useful.


>The burden of proof is not on the NFL to prove
>its employees are not more prone to domestic
>violence
>
>The burden of proof is on you to prove why the
>NFL is more prone

Note that my position has nothing to do with the players themselves. It's based on the notion that the NFL (the institution) has the motivation and the means to keep incidents (of any negative variety) quiet, coupled with the impact of social media on preventing that from happening. Remember, it's only a statistic if it's reported.

And I would posit that the "burden of proof" doesn't really exist yet. The NFL is obviously a very unique institution in American culture, both in terms of visibility and wealth. Like I mentioned earlier, I'm not sure if Peterson and Dwyer are the end of it, although I hope they are. But when you have everyone from Joe Schmoe to Indra Nooyi (CEO of Pepsi) to Congress weighing in, some sea change in the *institution* needs to happen before this issue will go away. That doesn't happen five years ago.

  

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22. "Copy that. Nuances noted, and very fair points all around. n/m"
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>Note though that I'm not exactly claiming that the NFL has
>equivalent (or higher) rates of domestic violence... or any
>other crime, really.
>
>All I'm saying is that the nature of *reporting* such
>incidents has changed, because of social media. Like, maybe
>5-6 years ago would that Ray Rice video have had anywhere near
>the level of impact that it had today? Would we even have
>been aware of it? Twitter and Facebook and Reddit existed,
>but they weren't the vanguard of news that they are today.
>
>In my college example, I wasn't saying that UCLA had higher or
>lower incidences of sexual assault, just that a stronger
>culture of transparency existed, leading to higher reporting
>rates. And based on what we've seen transpire lately, would
>it be safe to agree that the NFL isn't exactly the most
>transparent institution?
>
>
>>And for every reason you point out why the NFL
>>stats are under-reported and skewed, I can give
>>you a reason why the non-NFL stats are skewed
>>
>>For example, most real-world women (Non-NFL) have no
>>voice at all, have no chance for press at all, gain nothing,
>>at all, can't afford legal fees, etc
>
>Absolutely true. The culture of patriarchy that pervades most
>of the developed world is the basis for all of that. The fact
>that "slut shaming" exists and is a thing is downright
>despicable. There are more reasons why real world statistics
>are skewed than there are reasons why NFL statistics can be
>skewed.
>
>The key difference though? If and when real-world women
>report violence, there usually isn't an all-encompassing
>institution trying to muffle those incidents... which is why
>examining the phenomenon in the bubble of a college
>institution can be useful.
>
>
>>The burden of proof is not on the NFL to prove
>>its employees are not more prone to domestic
>>violence
>>
>>The burden of proof is on you to prove why the
>>NFL is more prone
>
>Note that my position has nothing to do with the players
>themselves. It's based on the notion that the NFL (the
>institution) has the motivation and the means to keep
>incidents (of any negative variety) quiet, coupled with the
>impact of social media on preventing that from happening.
>Remember, it's only a statistic if it's reported.
>
>And I would posit that the "burden of proof" doesn't really
>exist yet. The NFL is obviously a very unique institution in
>American culture, both in terms of visibility and wealth.
>Like I mentioned earlier, I'm not sure if Peterson and Dwyer
>are the end of it, although I hope they are. But when you
>have everyone from Joe Schmoe to Indra Nooyi (CEO of Pepsi) to
>Congress weighing in, some sea change in the *institution*
>needs to happen before this issue will go away. That doesn't
>happen five years ago.
>

  

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28. "the problem with this assumption"
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>In my college example, I wasn't saying that UCLA had higher or lower incidences of sexual assault, just that a stronger culture of transparency existed, leading to higher reporting rates. And based on what we've seen transpire lately, would it be safe to agree that the NFL isn't exactly the most transparent institution?

whatever protection the shield may offer to athletes suddenly charged with a crime (any kind), doesn't apply to like 80% of the players in the league.

most of the dudes on the roster are not well-known (helmets, even the famous guys aren't that famous), and easily replaceable.

you get in trouble, you're cut and they're moving a guy up from the practice squad. no one even asks why you're gone, and your salary was less than a million a year -- you can afford a lawyer sure, but you're not super rich, and for most guys, you won't be getting a shot with other teams now.



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34. "Agreed."
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It's not necessarily about what "protection" the NFL provides its players, it's about keeping things "quiet".

If a no-namer is reported, he's cut from the squad and easily replaced. No one notices and no one really cares. Stays quiet, done deal.

It's when personnel with a significant financial stake gets picked up. Depending on the offense, the league and/or team now has incentive to keep things "quiet". Just look at the Ray Rice situation... if it weren't for TMZ (and social media), all that would have happened was the occasional two-game grumble, then we'd go back to talking about this week's matchup.

I hear you though, there's absolutely a privileged hierarchy in terms of when the NFL chooses to be transparent. But when it comes to its privileged own, the NFL would unequivocally prefer to be quiet.

  

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17. "That's a pretty big stretch"
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NFL players are half as likely to be arrested for domestic violence compared to averaged 25-29 year old. For most other crimes it's like a 1/6 as likely. There's likely some assaults that go unreported or where the victim drops the charges, but that's true for all domestic violence situations, regardless of the wealth of the abuser.

The NFL has had several high profile arrests in the past two weeks, but the numbers show it's more of a statistical anomaly than some huge increase in the amount of domestic abuse done by NFL players.

The problem the NFL needs to fix is consistency in how they handle these types of situations because right now they are all over the map.

  

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11. "I'm not sure what the something drastic can be"
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Other than the lifetime ban already put in place for 2 offenses.

It's not like Obama is gonna step in and shut down the NFL.

Sponsors may start to pull out which will hurt the league really bad, but they can't do much more than ban people.

  

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12. "but Obama promised change!"
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18. "see what happens when obama fantasy team is ruined"
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changes gonna come

  

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19. "who would've though that TMZ could singlehandedly bring down the NFL?"
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21. "It helps that legitimate sports media outlets are"
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completely in bed with the NFL and aren't going to try and rock the boat too much.

TMZ gives no fucks.

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23. "I dislike Gawker in general..."
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>TMZ gives no fucks.


... but I love Deadspin for this same reason.

  

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26. "RE: It helps that legitimate sports media outlets are"
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>completely in bed with the NFL and aren't going to try and
>rock the boat too much.
>
>TMZ gives no fucks.


It's kinda scary to think how many domestic violence issues were swept under the rug years upon years ago since the major media companies didn't want to ruin their investment with the NFL. And I'm going back to the Paul Tagliablue (sp?) days, because I can't imagine something being in the water or atmosphere magically causing NFL players to just all of a sudden to hit their women.

  

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24. "headbutted and punched her for not fucking, threatened suicide"
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This dude sounds mentally ill.

  

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25. "cotdamn....dude might get Riced over this one"
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27. "If he's smart"
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Goddell is going to throw the gauntlet at future players that have issues similar to Ray Rice just out of sheer self-preservation.

  

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29. "In Jonathan Dwyer, should be easy to band him for life"
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32. "a slap on the wrist and no jail time?"
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probably.

  

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33. "Rice's career being over is a slap on the wrist? Lol"
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30. "Here's the (seriously disturbing) details"
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http://nypost.com/2014/09/18/jonathan-dwyer-head-butted-wife-after-denied-sex-police/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow

PHOENIX — Arizona Cardinals running back Jonathan Dwyer head-butted his wife and broke her nose after she refused his sexual advances, and punched her in the face the next day, police said Thursday.

The details surfaced in a law enforcement report a day after Dwyer was arrested on aggravated assault charges and deactivated from all team activities. He spent a night in jail and made a brief court appearance before being released early Thursday.

The arrest came at a time when the NFL and its commissioner are under fire over a series of violent off-the-field encounters involving some of the league’s marquee players, including Ray Rice, Adrian Peterson and Greg Hardy. The Cardinals have deactivated Dwyer from all team activities.

Dwyer was arrested Wednesday for investigation in two altercations that occurred on July 21 and 22 at his Phoenix residence, just days before the Cardinals reported to training camp. His wife left the state after the incidents, but came forward a week ago after Dwyer apparently sent suicidal text messages including a photo of a knife.

In the first encounter, police say Dwyer attempted to kiss and undress his wife, but she refused. Someone who heard the argument reported the assault to police, who showed up at the apartment but did not make an arrest. Dwyer hid in a bathroom and the wife denied he was in the home because the running back threatened to kill himself in front of her and their child if she told police about the assault, police said.

The next day, Dwyer punched his wife with a closed fist on the left side of her face, according to police. He also punched walls and threw a shoe at his 17-month-old son, who was not injured.
As his wife tried to call police, Dwyer grabbed her cellphone and threw it down from the home’s second story. Witnesses told police that Dwyer’s wife said, “I’m calling the police” as she held her swollen face and clutched her son.

During his police interview, Dwyer acknowledged hiding in the bathroom when police responded to the first argument and sending a photo of a knife with suicidal threats. Dwyer denied committing an assault, though he acknowledged that he punched walls in his home, threw a phone and that his wife bit his lip during the disputes, according to the police report. As he was released from jail Thursday, he said he never hurt his son.

The NFL has been jolted by domestic violence issues since a videotape surfaced that showed former Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice knocking out his then-fiancée in an Atlantic City elevator.

Then Minnesota Vikings star running back Adrian Peterson was indicted on felony child-abuse charges for using a tree branch, or “switch,” to discipline his 4-year-old son.

On Wednesday, the Carolina Panthers decided that star defensive end Greg Hardy won’t play any more games for the team until his domestic violence case is resolved. Hardy was convicted of assault on a female and communicating threats after the victim said the 6-foot-4, 275-pound player threw her in the bathtub and onto a sofa covered with guns before threatening to kill her. Hardy is appealing the ruling.

The Dwyer arrest adds to the pressure on NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, whose handling of the Rice case has been widely criticized.

Rice was originally suspended for two games, then banned indefinitely after the video surfaced of his attack in the casino elevator.

This is the second domestic violence case involving a Cardinals player. Inside linebacker Daryl Washington pleaded guilty to assaulting his ex-girlfriend and is serving a year of supervised probation. Washington hasn’t been penalized by the NFL for the offense but is suspended for this season for violating the league’s substance-abuse policy.

Dwyer was booked on counts that include aggravated assault causing a fracture and involving a minor, criminal damage, and preventing the use of a phone in an emergency.

Dwyer signed with the Cardinals this year and was their second-string running back after spending the last four seasons with the Pittsburgh Steelers. He scored a touchdown last week in Arizona’s victory over the Giants.

His best year for Pittsburgh was 2012 when injuries depleted the team’s backfield in the middle of the season. Dwyer filled in and had 100-yard-plus games in consecutive weeks.

Dwyer, from Marietta, Georgia, was a sixth-round draft pick of the Steelers out of Georgia Tech in 2010.

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31. "you gotta be built a certain way mentally to be able to steal on a woman"
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35. "This is the grossest story yet"
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36. "faces 9 charges including felony assault"
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11613194/jonathan-dwyer-arizona-cardinals-charged-hitting-wife


Dwyer charged with hitting wife

Updated: September 29, 2014, 3:47 PM ET
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PHOENIX -- Arizona Cardinals running back Jonathan Dwyer has been formally charged with assaulting his wife in two arguments in July at their Phoenix apartment.

EnlargeJonathan Dwyer
Mark J. Rebilas/USA TODAY SportsJonathan Dwyer has been charged with a felony and eight misdemeanors for hitting his wife on July 21.

An indictment publicly released late Friday charges Dwyer with felony aggravated assault and eight misdemeanors.

Investigators say Dwyer broke his wife's nose during a July 21 argument and engaged in a dispute the following day in which he punched his wife and threw a shoe at his 17-month-old son, who wasn't injured.

Dwyer had been booked on suspicion of assaulting his son, but the indictment doesn't charge him with crimes related to the child.

Prosecutors say it's not unusual for grand juries to return a slightly different charges than those initially brought in a case.

A message left for Dwyer attorney Jared Allen wasn't immediately returned Monday.


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37. "RE: faces 9 charges including felony assault"
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>A message left for Dwyer attorney Jared Allen wasn't
>immediately returned Monday.

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38. "Wait, what???"
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"Investigators say Dwyer broke his wife's nose during a July 21 argument and engaged in a dispute the following day in which he punched his wife and threw a shoe at his 17-month-old son, who wasn't injured."
He broke her nose one day and they were together the next?????

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39. "It's scary how many women stay in these type of relationships"
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Like really scary and very hard to fathom. But it happens with great frequency. I mean, just look at Ray Rice's now wife. She seemed to forgive and 'forget' real quick. It's really hard for me to buy the fact that she's not living in fear of being abused again. But, I guess she's okay with that. And she's certainly not alone in that regard.

  

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40. "the psychology and emotional trauma is extremely complex"
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41. "my goodness, that's heartbreaking..."
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I can't even imagine a woman feeling like she has to stay with someone who just one day before, broke her nose.

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43. "It's sad, but I'm real curious to know what she did to protect"
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their child. I mean, I genuinely feel bad for any girl/woman who feels so helpless, afraid and lacking self-worth that they choose to stay in an abusive relationship. But, I definitely feel much worse for the child who has absolutely NO control to do something about it. And, if she honestly stayed around with the child after being assaulted like that??? Yeah, that has me upset with her.

But as Smuts alluded to, there is a segment of women (and men too) who will overlook sadistic behavior as a means of keeping the relationship in tact (out of fear or feelings of abandonment).

  

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44. "you would think that those basic motherly instincts would kick in..."
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but that's just me typin on a computer screen. I can't begin to put myself in her shoes.

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42. "Sadly, it's too common"
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45. "“You'll hear of a wife murdered before you hear another one come forwa..."
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swiping the shorter deadspin article, but the full read is in the Washington Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/10/17/for-battered-nfl-wives-a-message-from-the-cops-and-the-league-keep-quiet/

http://deadspin.com/ex-nfl-wives-we-felt-pressure-to-keep-quiet-about-dome-1647815530

Two former NFL wives talked to the Washington Post about why they stayed in abusive relationships, and both describe in the story published Friday how the league, the union, coaches, and even cops encouraged them to stay silent. They say not to expect the newfound focus on domestic violence to make a meaningful difference: "You will hear of a wife murdered before you hear another one come forward."

The Post talked to two women, one of whom declined to be named because her ex-husband is still associated with the league. She recalled a night in the 1990s when several players were out celebrating the New Orleans Saints' first big win of the season. At one point, she says, her husband got mad and dragged her to their SUV while nearby officers were convinced not to intervene by a teammate. She says the attack grew worse at home:

He pushed me to the top of the stairs and shoved me over to the bed. When I stood up, he punched me, and the next thing I remember is coming to on the floor. I remember pulling my legs up to the fetal position to protect myself from his kick after kick. I was vomiting and gasping for air and remember screaming, 'You are going to kill me!' ...

Neighbors who saw the altercation begin outside their home had called the police. But when they arrived, instead of arresting her husband, the officers chatted and laughed with him about his successful game, she says. One requested an autograph for his kid. When her husband cleaned the blood from her face and ushered her downstairs to assure the police officers all was well in the home, they overlooked any evidence of abuse, she says, and as far as she knows they never filed a police report.
The next day, she says she was phoned by a representative from the Saints.

said she called to 'check on me.' … I knew what the call meant. I think every wife knows innately what that call means: 'Your husband needs this job, and you don't want to take his dream away now do you?' I lost more than my dignity. I lost my voice, my self-confidence, my identity. I was just a football player's wife, collateral damage.
Dewan Smith-Williams is still married to former offensive lineman Wally Williams, though they live separately. Smith Williams recalled what happened in 2001, when police found marijuana inside their home. Then-Saints coach Jim Haslett left a note on their door telling them to call him before talking to anyone else, Smith-Williams said. Later, Haslett told her, "Don't talk to the media. Don't talk to the police. We will handle it." So when her husband did get violent, Smith-Williams remembered that advice.

The next year, during his final season, Williams tested positive for marijuana use and received a four-game suspension. So when Smith-Williams found marijuana in their Baltimore home, she confronted her husband about it. He stormed through their Baltimore house with a baseball bat, hitting doors, chairs and pictures while threatening her, she says. But after Coach Haslett's warning the previous year, she chose not to call the cops. Instead, she rang the NFLPA rep assigned to Williams's case. He told her to stay safe and to let Williams leave the house. He said that someone would call her back. That call never came. Smith-Williams wasn't entirely surprised — the league rarely returned calls from her or other wives, they had told her. So she didn't bother calling again.

The Saints declined to comment, the players' union declined to comment, and Haslett did not return calls or emails for comment. An NFL spokesman told the Post they didn't have a record of such an event. Reports were filed for two other times that Smith-Williams said she was attacked by her husband, in 2001 and 2005, although both times she declined to press charges. In 2001, she said she declined charges because "I didn't want him to lose his job. Bottom line."

Williams denied all the abuse allegations against him an declined to comment on any specific claims, the Post reported.

What do these women think of the NFL's newfound tough stance on domestic violence? They don't think it will work. Fear of losing money to fines and suspension was part of what pressured them to stay quiet, and they tougher penalties will only make that fear worse. The women said the focus should be less on punishment and more on rehabilitation. But with Roger Goodell codifying tougher penalties for domestic violence, including an indefinite ban for a second offense, that couldn't be further from the NFL way.

  

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