This is the start of his second year, and the storyline is he has to produce or he's gonna be replaced with...

...Kyle Orton.

Did he not JUST get drafted last year?!? He was injured part of last season, so he didn't play in all of the games for the Bills, but the storyline for the Bills, is he needs to step and produce or he's gone.

WTF, I mean the leash is just getting shorter and shorter, for black quarterbacks in the league. And we know once you miss out on that first opportunity, there is NO second chance waiting for you.

I don't know, man, I'm just curious has anyone else notice this in the analyst's breakdown of this young quarterback? Bills fans, what's the vibe you're getting from Bills coverage?

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I'm thinking it has more to do with a "we need to win now" mentality than anything else. Not that Kyle Orton is any better but the team just might not be willing to wait to long on any QB.

Like the Vikings with Christian Ponder. As a Vikings fan, I thought that pick was ridiculous from the beginning but they didn't wait too long to attempt to move on from him. Peterson only has so many years left. They need to win sooner rather than later and can't wait too long for a QB to develop so they try option after option quickly.

if so then bye
it's enough examples of white QB getting that rug pulled with the quickness imo
clausen, kolb in AZ, gabbert, ponder

his year one numbers look like some shit so i think it's fair to give him another year to show and prove
andy dalton is kind of the poster boy of young QB getting a chance and his early numbers shit on this guys. and ppl still want(ed) him gone so iono
the days of waiting 3-4 yrs for a dude to learn to play are over

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and early enough
to buy him time to show and prove
point is now days it's hard to build the argument that QBs ain't getting enough time to develop. ALL these niggas getting like 2-3 yrs then you cut
the new CBA fucked that all up , thanks demaurice

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just because some asshole on ESPN says "EJ has to perform well right out of the gate, or else he'll be replaced by Kyle Orton" does not necessarily mean that EJ has to perform well right out of the gate, or else he'll be replaced by Kyle Orton

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Look at Sam Bradford, He gets another do-over year next season. Were i a GM, which we all know is only marginally more secure than a head coaching spot, I would weigh up durability with the same importance as arm strength or "intellegence". There are enough examples of quality QBs that just cant stay on the field for a full season that are out of the league/benched to realise its an essential "skill"

EJ was, well...not.

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especially if he doesn't take a paycut...and it has to be a huge paycut...

if the Rams are terrible...they are taking a QB early and bradford will be released...

2010 might have the worst QB class in a while...at least that QB class has one playoff win that belongs to...Tim Tebow...

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you know manuel needs some work when you draft him...and then you pull this at the beginning of his 2nd year?

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Let's be honest...we all knew that EJ Manuel was not first round talent from the get-go. The expectations should have been lower, but unfortunately it's unavoidable because of his draft position. That is part of his problem. Teams are quicker to part with a first round pick that isn't panning out than a later round pick, for both financial and face-saving reasons.

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Folks can blame the Bills all they want but they got a good defense, a few decent skill players, their biggest problem right now is prolly the fact that their starting quarterback is EJ Manuel.

Dude wasn't even good in college.

And that's with their previous two QBs, Manuel and Ponder, both being 1st round picks.

Which should tell you pretty much everything about their pro prospects.

>
>Dude wasn't even good in college.

>And that's with their previous two QBs, Manuel and Ponder,
>both being 1st round picks.
>
>Which should tell you pretty much everything about their pro
>prospects.
>
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>>Dude wasn't even good in college.
>

were HIGH and they are both "character" guys.



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When will some Black football fans accept the fact that it is not always about race? I do understand that it seems like Black QBs are graded on a different scale. Maybe there is some merit to that sentiment, however, in the case of E.J. Manuel, maybe he was over drafted and skill set overvalued? Maybe he is not ready to start on an NFL team at the moment, but could very well be ready later in his career?

Being injured does hurt his stock, but from what I gathered from some commentators, he plays like he is still in college or making college level mistakes. In the NFL, you can't be letting defenders read your eyes and knowing your moves. This is what I gathered from the commentators.

Lastly, I think that some teams are rushing some of these rookie and second year QBs a lil too much while expecting some of them to play at an elite QB level. Not every QB coming into the league can play like the elites. Some QBs need time to develop. Only a select few can come out of college and beast. Oh, EJ. has more opportunity than New England's back ups and they are white. So, if he does get charged to the game, then it will be because of his skill set rather than his ethnicity.

lol just kidding, this is plausible.

personally he will never be good because of his Florida State ties.

Jameis the only one who could transcend that.

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If it is racism, then it will come from Bills fans or some asshole online, but not me. I root for all Black QBs. But, I have to be sensible as well. I have to accept that some Black QBs are not ready to command a team. That is just a reality. The same can be said about some white QBs. As for EJ. versus Jameis, perhaps Jameis will have a better shot to succeed in the NFL because he is a phenomenal athlete. He is special. But, how many guys are like him out there?

If you were an NFL coach, do you honestly believe that EJ. can bring you a Super Bowl championship right now? If the answer is no, then you have to explore other options.

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I do not think E.J. possibly being on the bubble is based on him being Black. His Blackness did not prevent him from being drafted nor winning the starting position. His Blackness is not keeping non Black Bills fans from watching him in the stands. What it is about is performing at a pro level and winning games. Black or non Black. If he can't perform at a level to win games, then he needs to fall back and let someone else do it. That is how it goes. His situation is one he can control. How someone else view him is not his control. He needs to focus on what he can control and win, otherwise he will be out and someone else will be in.

>I do not think E.J. possibly being on the bubble is based on
>him being Black. His Blackness did not prevent him from being
>drafted nor winning the starting position. His Blackness is
>not keeping non Black Bills fans from watching him in the
>stands. What it is about is performing at a pro level and
>winning games. Black or non Black. If he can't perform at a
>level to win games, then he needs to fall back and let someone
>else do it. That is how it goes. His situation is one he can
>control. How someone else view him is not his control. He
>needs to focus on what he can control and win, otherwise he
>will be out and someone else will be in.

Now we are at one-and-done for black quarterbacks, now?

Regardless of your personal opinion as to whether he should have been a first round draft pick, the fact of the matter is that someone in the Bills organization thought enough of his skill-set, intelligence, and potential to take him in the first round.

My point is that after ONE, injury-shortened season, the convo has moved toward, not only has he not performed well, in the just 10 games he's played, but that he will NEVER perform well and just prepare to get to steppin'. That is an extremely short leash. It's like the verdict has been made on such a ridiculously short sample set, not even taking into account coaching, offensive playcalling, and general organizational support.

One year, 10 games, that's it. No long term plan, for a quarterback you take to be your franchise guy (1st round pick.)? The trash they had playing QB before he got there had a longer leash!

I'm sorry, you say race doesn't play a factor, but I beg to differ. This is the NFL, it ALWAYS has played a factor, when it comes to any NON-WHITE playing the quarterback position.




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>>I do not think E.J. possibly being on the bubble is based
>on
>>him being Black. His Blackness did not prevent him from
>being
>>drafted nor winning the starting position. His Blackness is
>>not keeping non Black Bills fans from watching him in the
>>stands. What it is about is performing at a pro level and
>>winning games. Black or non Black. If he can't perform at a
>>level to win games, then he needs to fall back and let
>someone
>>else do it. That is how it goes. His situation is one he can
>>control. How someone else view him is not his control. He
>>needs to focus on what he can control and win, otherwise he
>>will be out and someone else will be in.
>
>Now we are at one-and-done for black quarterbacks, now?
>
>Regardless of your personal opinion as to whether he should
>have been a first round draft pick, the fact of the matter is
>that someone in the Bills organization thought enough of his
>skill-set, intelligence, and potential to take him in the
>first round.
>
>My point is that after ONE, injury-shortened season, the convo
>has moved toward, not only has he not performed well, in the
>just 10 games he's played, but that he will NEVER perform well
>and just prepare to get to steppin'. That is an extremely
>short leash. It's like the verdict has been made on such a
>ridiculously short sample set, not even taking into account
>coaching, offensive playcalling, and general organizational
>support.
>
>One year, 10 games, that's it. No long term plan, for a
>quarterback you take to be your franchise guy (1st round
>pick.)? The trash they had playing QB before he got there had
>a longer leash!
>
> I'm sorry, you say race doesn't play a factor, but I beg to
>differ. This is the NFL, it ALWAYS has played a factor, when
>it comes to any NON-WHITE playing the quarterback position.
>
>
>
>
I do feel that it is not always about race. I never said he can not perform at the pro level. I did make a general statement as to what commentators said about his QB skills. Next, how do you prove that race is a factor when he has not been benched yet? He is still the starting QB, no? So, based on that fact, how does race play a factor? Now, if your issue is with commentators, then cool. But, they are paid to be critical. They are not on the coaching staff.

I want E.J. to win, but I would be lying if I said he could lead the Bills to a championship, right now. Lastly, people are all about instant gratification. It does not matter who you are. If you are in the spotlight, then you will be scrutinized as well as have a different set of expectations placed upon you. Oh, let's not act like every white QB gets long passes, but I think we can agree that the media and fans tend to favor white QBs.
>

>I do feel that it is not always about race. I never said he
>can not perform at the pro level. I did make a general
>statement as to what commentators said about his QB skills.

The commentators are the ones whose opinions fans use and are conditioned to view these quarterbacks. They are the filter/lens through which the story is told on the careers of these quarterbacks. No, not ALL situations are strictly based on race. No one ever said that, nor spoke in any kind of absolutes like that.


>Next, how do you prove that race is a factor when he has not
>been benched yet? He is still the starting QB, no? So, based
>on that fact, how does race play a factor? Now, if your issue
>is with commentators, then cool. But, they are paid to be
>critical. They are not on the coaching staff.

Really the burden is not to prove that race is a factor. The burden of proof is to show that race IS NOT a factor. Once again, we're talking about the NFL here, which as we all know has a loooooong history with race determining of who plays at this most important position. All we (I) can do is point out where we see the remnants of what has been the status quo for the league historically.

Why do you assume that the league has all of a sudden become this bastion of racial equality? I don't see it.

>
>I want E.J. to win, but I would be lying if I said he could
>lead the Bills to a championship, right now. Lastly, people
>are all about instant gratification. It does not matter who
>you are. If you are in the spotlight, then you will be
>scrutinized as well as have a different set of expectations
>placed upon you. Oh, let's not act like every white QB gets
>long passes, but I think we can agree that the media and fans
>tend to favor white QBs.
>>

My point has always been the level of scrutiny, versus the willingness to mold a particular prospect into good to elite-level of quarterback. Do we really have to continually make statistical comparisons to the rookie seasons of other (re: white) quarterback's rookie seasons every time a situation like this comes up?

Troy Aikman, Steve Young, Drew Brees, etc... Look at their first FEW years, this is what I'm saying. I'm not necessarily riding for EJ here and saying he's going to have a career close to those names, ONE of the main differences between those greats and players like EJ (re: Black), is the level of support they get, from the jump.




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my thoughts,

peace.

>>I do feel that it is not always about race. I never said he
>>can not perform at the pro level. I did make a general
>>statement as to what commentators said about his QB skills.
>
>The commentators are the ones whose opinions fans use and are
>conditioned to view these quarterbacks. They are the
>filter/lens through which the story is told on the careers of
>these quarterbacks. No, not ALL situations are strictly based
>on race. No one ever said that, nor spoke in any kind of
>absolutes like that.

First, I appreciate the civil response. I hope we can continue to debate without allowing emotions to derail the thread. now...let me address your retorts..

The commentators are entitled to their opinions. Also, some may have biases and preferences, but at the end of the day, they are just opinions. I give more credence to a coach and player than a commentator. As for fans, consider that those people came to the game with preconceived notions and prejudices, to boot. EJ could ball out and some fans would still hate because they are ignorant haters. Their opinion do not mean shit because their punk asses still attending games. When they vote with their feet and wallet, then I will take their "opinions" into consideration. Lastly, you seem intelligent enough to know not to take every opinion as gospel from a commentator and certainly don't give credence to fans who may be racist. As a Black person, you live with the notion that non Blacks are going to have negative opinions about you. But, you do not let that affect what you have to do in life. You know who is good on the field and who is not good on the field. Your opinion is the only one that should matter to you.
>
>>Next, how do you prove that race is a factor when he has not
>>been benched yet? He is still the starting QB, no? So, based
>>on that fact, how does race play a factor? Now, if your
>issue
>>is with commentators, then cool. But, they are paid to be
>>critical. They are not on the coaching staff.
>
>Really the burden is not to prove that race is a factor. The
>burden of proof is to show that race IS NOT a factor. Once
>again, we're talking about the NFL here, which as we all know
>has a loooooong history with race determining of who plays at
>this most important position. All we (I) can do is point out
>where we see the remnants of what has been the status quo for
>the league historically.


Who has this burden to prove? The Bills? Well, they are proving by giving EJ a chance to start for their team and I have not heard any talk of him being benched. Also, should he get benched for Kyle Orton, do you honestly think the Bills will be in a better position to win a championship? Lol lately, you see more Black QBs than ever before. Speaking on past history, it was not just QBs that were reserved for whites. Centers, middle linebackers and strong safeties were also reserved for whites, historically. Now, you see a lot of Blacks in these "thinking positions". So, things has got better since the early days of football.


>Why do you assume that the league has all of a sudden become
>this bastion of racial equality? I don't see it.

I never said that. I just think that Black players can not use the race card as a crutch. If you are talented enough to play in the league, then the onus is on you to take advantage. If you don't, the it is probably your fault, not because you are Black.
>
>>
>>I want E.J. to win, but I would be lying if I said he could
>>lead the Bills to a championship, right now. Lastly, people
>>are all about instant gratification. It does not matter who
>>you are. If you are in the spotlight, then you will be
>>scrutinized as well as have a different set of expectations
>>placed upon you. Oh, let's not act like every white QB gets
>>long passes, but I think we can agree that the media and
>fans
>>tend to favor white QBs.
>>>
>
>My point has always been the level of scrutiny, versus the
>willingness to mold a particular prospect into good to
>elite-level of quarterback. Do we really have to continually
>make statistical comparisons to the rookie seasons of other
>(re: white) quarterback's rookie seasons every time a
>situation like this comes up?
>
>Troy Aikman, Steve Young, Drew Brees, etc... Look at their
>first FEW years, this is what I'm saying. I'm not necessarily
>riding for EJ here and saying he's going to have a career
>close to those names, ONE of the main differences between
>those greats and players like EJ (re: Black), is the level of
>support they get, from the jump.

Once again, commentators are who they are. I mean, let's take Johnny Football. He is a mobile QB who gets praise by the media and fans, but Mike Vick has been scrutinized for being the same type of QB. Same with Tim Tebow. He could not throw for shit, but got passes from the fans and some commentator when T. Pryor gets vilified for it. In all, I agree that QBs are preferred to be played by whites and they do get less scrutiny., however, my point is that EJs situation may be due to him not being ready to lead a team for now. It is not because he is Black. I am talking about coaches and ownership here making this determination, not some commentator or bigot fan.
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>
>
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>

>Lastly, I think that some teams are rushing some of these
>rookie and second year QBs a lil too much while expecting some
>of them to play at an elite QB level. Not every QB coming into
>the league can play like the elites. Some QBs need time to
>develop. Only a select few can come out of college and beast.
>Oh, EJ. has more opportunity than New England's back ups and
>they are white. So, if he does get charged to the game, then
>it will be because of his skill set rather than his
>ethnicity.

see: a couple of recent Super Bowl winners not named Drew Brees or Russell Wilson

I just believe it is not always about skin color. If you win, then you win and you are in. People who are not satisfied with a QB who wins have issues that goes beyond what is done on the gridiron.

2013. Now in 2014, it looks like he might be the guy for the Titans. This post isn't about how good EJ is right now. This post is about why a guy like EJ might not get the same chance to come into his own like Jake did. Race certainly plays a factor, his skin color automatically puts him on a shorter leash. The reality is that when most fans think of a NFL pro QB they think of "tall white man". Anything other than that is naturally going to be under more scrutiny.


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A black QB has to be a star/playmaker; if not - he is quickly dismissed. They're rarely allowed to be middle-of-the-pack.

In some cases I blame GMs. They seem to become lazy (see Panthers, Carolina). They don't get surrounded by the talent because they need to just go out there and "make a play."

I remember a conversation way back when Cunningham was with the Eagles. Buddy Ryan's philosophy was, "If you're first read isn't there, make something happen."

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because hell... a successful Black QB on the BILLS is Claw-rooting-bait

EJ Manuel is the other side of the Christian POnder coin.

People are getting antsy because, just like Ponder, he has not looked like the guy AND a lot of people thought the pick was a reach to begin with.


If Manuel had been picked in the 3rd or 4th it would be different. Same for Ponder. Then you can develop slowly or come off the bench and no one is calling you a bust.


Manuel just is not that good. Neither was Ponder. Being picked in the first did them a disservice (except in terms of getting $$, which is no small thing)

That said, I wont be shocked if he comes out and beats the Bears in Wk 1

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Glad the Jets have made it clear Geno is getting his shot this year

EJ is perpetually in the way. He holds everyone back.

You could not have watched him and made this post.

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Bills bench E.J. Manuel, go with Kyle Orton at QB

Posted by Darin Gantt on September 29, 2014, 3:42 PM EDT

The Bills didn’t wait long to pull the rip-cord on the parachute that is Kyle Orton.

Bills coach Doug Marrone announced today that he was benching second-year starter E.J. Manuel, and making Orton his starting quarterback.

“We can’t keep going in the direction that we’re going,” Marrone said.

The Bills are 2-2, but Manuel has struggled, throwing two picks and completing fewer than half his passes in yesterday’s loss to the Texans.

It’s an interesting play for a coach and a front office that will be on notice with new ownership coming in soon.

Marrone was upset with the addition of Orton, thinking it undermined last year’s first-round pick.

So going with him now either points to the fact it wasn’t his call, or he’s lost confidence in Manuel too.

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I agree with your statement, but I think the Bills are giving up on him.

>If you think EJ is the future then you have to let him play.
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in preseason. Manuel is worthless when throwing the ball past the line of scrimmage. No snark, just reality. I watched their last drive yesterday. Crunch time 2 minute drill, they gained like 40 yards off of dumpoffs, and then the first pass he threw past the LOS got picked for the GG.


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>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/29/bills-bench-e-j-manuel-go-with-kyle-orton-at-qb/related/
>
>Bills bench E.J. Manuel, go with Kyle Orton at QB
>
>Posted by Darin Gantt on September 29, 2014, 3:42 PM EDT
>
>The Bills didn’t wait long to pull the rip-cord on the
>parachute that is Kyle Orton.
>
>Bills coach Doug Marrone announced today that he was benching
>second-year starter E.J. Manuel, and making Orton his starting
>quarterback.
>
>“We can’t keep going in the direction that we’re
>going,” Marrone said.
>
>The Bills are 2-2, but Manuel has struggled, throwing two
>picks and completing fewer than half his passes in
>yesterday’s loss to the Texans.
>
>It’s an interesting play for a coach and a front office that
>will be on notice with new ownership coming in soon.
>
>Marrone was upset with the addition of Orton, thinking it
>undermined last year’s first-round pick.
>
>So going with him now either points to the fact it wasn’t
>his call, or he’s lost confidence in Manuel too.


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I feel bad for him AND Geno...they get the hot seat at the first start...and other QB's get years to suck before they get pulled

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EJ has not done enough to lose his job this early...to Kyle Orton..

makes no sense...

they are 2-2.... he has a young WR crop...you need to let them grow together...

Kyle Orton is not the answer

It's WAAAAY to early to give up on a first-round pick.

Seriously.

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His accuracy is abysmal. The coach knows there is new management on the way and probably has already decided that Manuel is not an NFL starter.

At this point, he is trying to save his job while they are still at .500


Of course, he could keep waiting...but where did that get Leslie Frazier.

Rex is waiting on Geno, Philbin is waiting on Tannehill and both of them will be unemployed next year if their respective QBs don't pull out of current nosedives.

Fair? No. But the public clamors for these rookies to play immediately when they weren't even great college players, and this is the predictable result.

EJ Manuel
Geno Smith
Ryan Tannehill
Christian Ponder

are just a sampling of many guys who could have used a couple seasons of holding a clipboard and learning the game. Might never live up to 1st round pick status but at least could have avoided brutal baptisms by fire that they were in no way equipped to overcome.

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its part of the reason why some football teams struggle for years. they start with long term plans at qb and start them immediately because they think they are ready. they suck after the 1st couple of seasons and then they go with a short term plan, AND that fails also. now the coach gets fired and they start over again at qb. wash, rinse, repeat for years instead of just taking time to try to develop a qb.


>Rex is waiting on Geno, Philbin is waiting on Tannehill and
>both of them will be unemployed next year if their respective
>QBs don't pull out of current nosedives.

>
>Fair? No. But the public clamors for these rookies to play
>immediately when they weren't even great college players, and
>this is the predictable result.
>
>EJ Manuel
>Geno Smith
>Ryan Tannehill
>Christian Ponder
>
>are just a sampling of many guys who could have used a couple
>seasons of holding a clipboard and learning the game. Might
>never live up to 1st round pick status but at least could have
>avoided brutal baptisms by fire that they were in no way
>equipped to overcome.

>its part of the reason why some football teams struggle for
>years. they start with long term plans at qb and start them
>immediately because they think they are ready. they suck after
>the 1st couple of seasons and then they go with a short term
>plan, AND that fails also. now the coach gets fired and they
>start over again at qb. wash, rinse, repeat for years instead
>of just taking time to try to develop a qb.
>
>
>>Rex is waiting on Geno, Philbin is waiting on Tannehill and
>>both of them will be unemployed next year if their
>respective
>>QBs don't pull out of current nosedives.
>
>>
>>Fair? No. But the public clamors for these rookies to play
>>immediately when they weren't even great college players,
>and
>>this is the predictable result.
>>
>>EJ Manuel
>>Geno Smith
>>Ryan Tannehill
>>Christian Ponder
>>
>>are just a sampling of many guys who could have used a
>couple
>>seasons of holding a clipboard and learning the game. Might
>>never live up to 1st round pick status but at least could
>have
>>avoided brutal baptisms by fire that they were in no way
>>equipped to overcome.
>
>
>

Agreed but at the same time, when Lovie Smith brings in veteran Josh McCown to guide the team and let Glennon stay on the bench, he is widely derided.

Raiders had Schaub and fans/media were livid before the season even started because "What's the upside with Schaub"? Carr is now the starter and everyone thinks thats the way it should be...until it doesn't work out and then you ruined him.

Lovie Smith drafted Grossman, played him and stuck by him until "Rex is our quarterback" became an "example of Lovie Smith's shortcomings"

It's a raw deal either way. I can't fault a coach who is between a rock and a hard place.

Just look at how everyone thought Bridgewater should have been startingfrom day 1. What for??? I can't understand it. It's not like you will get WORSE holding a clipboard for a year or so

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you're the coach so you should know whats best for the team. if they think that kyle is going to be the one to lead them to the playoffs, so be it but its moving backwards. and ej hasnt been good, but that lightbulb is just now going off that he isn't good 4 games into a season?

As in missing even the easy throws awful. Eventually it's about wins and losses which is why Geno and Tannehill were also on the hot seat. If Tannehill had played like Manuel did yesterday, he'd be benched as well.

The problem isn't that these guys are getting pulled, it's that they should never have been handed the starting jobs so quickly in the first place.

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>The problem isn't that these guys are getting pulled, it's
>that they should never have been handed the starting jobs so
>quickly in the first place.
>


BINGO

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New management typically cleans house.

The Bills could be a playoff team with solid QB play. Orton's probably not the guy to provide it either though.

his receivers have lost faith in him. gotta bench him.

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He's a top pick. I you take that early and develop him.

I think in a lot of these situations, the coaches are essentially blameless. WTF kind of offense are you running, maybe the play calling/schemes are bad. Maybe the TEAM itself isn't as good as you think it is, which is the case with a lot of fans' perceptions, when they start clamoring for the team to win now and perform better.

That's exactly the case with RG3. The team itself is poorly constructed and the offensive (and defensive) line has constantly been neglected for years. You have a new head coach and scheme and then all of a sudden RG3 can't cut it as a qb, so "let's get ready to bail on this dude, instead of letting the team develop." He has already shown he can play at a high level in this league.

EJ and Geno are JUST starting their second seasons, there's no way you can make the determination that these guys are done and can't play in the league on such a short sample. Yes they are struggling, but time was, when that was what young quarterbacks did.



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I love how you got a bunch of these media types saying that Geno has enough weapons when his #2 WR is Salas (assuming Decker is still hurt)

3 of his turnovers he got hit AS HE THREW THE BALL...based on the games, some of the mistakes he makes can happen to ANY QB

Don't get me wrong, he's still got a lot to clean up...but to say he deserves to get benched is insane.

EJ is perpetually in the way.

"hey, make this right mayne
stop at the light mayne,
my yester night thang got me hung off the night train "

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Fucking dicks

Didn't even give that black man a CHANCE

throw for 300
and adjust at halftime and finish a game strong
bills are headed to the postseason
ej is a very high character guy but fsu qb's aint worth a shit

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Also, they may have won yesterday, but let's be honest, how far do you really think you are gonna go with Orton, seriously. That book has been written long ago.

This would equivalent to the Sk!ns benching RG3 for Rex or some shit.

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EJ Manuel wasn't very good in college. The Bills actually have a pretty good team and with average veteran quarterbacking could threaten to make the 'offs...which would be like winning the SB in Buffalo.


This is the coaching staff giving up on Manuel, which honestly, is what was going to happen at some point.

He is just not accurate enough to play in the NFL.


How you can compare that to RG3 vs Rex, I don't know.

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And Nawrocki had him rated higher than Cam Newton,
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